have you had a nosy coworker? by Alison Green on June 19, 2014 We hear a lot about nosy coworkers here — from the person who opened everyone’s paychecks to see what they earned to the pushy dietician who demanded people track and report their eating, and oh so many more. For some reason, some people think they can ask about your finances, your weight, your reproductive plans, your sex life, and all sorts of other things you might prefer not to share. I want to hear about your nosiest coworker. What did they say or do? And how did you react? I’ll use the best answers in an upcoming column (keeping you anonymous, of course), so please share in the comments! You may also like:how can I shut down a nosy receptionist's questions about my appointments?how to request time off for a last-minute interviewI don't want to share my personal life with nosy coworkers { 767 comments }
chmur* June 19, 2014 at 11:04 am My boss keeps asking the 30ish women on my team if we’re pregnant because he’s worried about how to manage the leave. The best part is that his wife is having a baby in October and he’s planning to take some time off.
Leah* June 19, 2014 at 12:02 pm My boss kept telling all employees nearing 30 that they’d better get started. Yes, she brought these things up entirely on her own and probably without considering that some people might have trouble conceiving, don’t want kids, or that this is entirely inappropriate to bring up with staff members. The things we both described are actually illegal but good luck convincing people who don’t have the good sense not to bring it up.
Steve G* June 19, 2014 at 12:07 pm Curious what others think but I don’t think this comment is completely out of line, unless she expects you to respond beyond a “ok.” THAT would be awkward. I get random warranted career advice all of the time and just say “yes” and move along. And this is career advice, because many people are afraid to start families because of their jobs, so it is nice in a way that your boss is not putting pressure on your team to hold off. the issue I see is that she KEEPS harping on it.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 12:16 pm This. Unless your career directly involves your genitals it’s not even close.
SCW* June 19, 2014 at 1:15 pm Yeah, career advice, even a little pushy career advice, is sort of your boss’ job. Personal choices and reproductive choices are none of his business. I am 30ish and if someone said something to me that I better get started with kids, I would be pretty offended. I would consider that way out of line–particularly since I’m single and may be more sensitive about that.
Anonsie* June 19, 2014 at 12:22 pm It’s way, way, way out of line. Ignoring how it’s invasive and a little disrespectful (since not everyone agrees that it is), a lot of people who want to “get started” struggle with it– finances or relationships or fertility. If you don’t know someone’s situation, you don’t know if you’re twisting the knife, so just don’t talk about it.
KellyK* June 20, 2014 at 8:43 am Exactly! Though I might take twisted delight in mentioning my fertility struggles and my miscarriage to someone who encouraged me to “get started” just to see them apologize and backpedal. (If you’re going to twist the knife, I’m going to hand it right back to you—point first.)
Del* June 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm […] it is nice in a way that your boss is not putting pressure on your team to hold off. Nnnnno. It is not “nice” to butt into someone’s sex life (!!!) unsolicited. It’s incredibly rude and invasive.
KellyK* June 20, 2014 at 8:44 am Absolutely. I can see not being pressured *not* to get pregnant as a relief for someone who wants to, but the pressure and intrusion is the same either way.
hildi* June 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm Overall, I think it’s irrelevant and annoying when someone does this, but I am a big fan of context and every situation is different depending on relationship dynamics, etc. So, that being said – if an employee has a relationship with their manager where the employee brings it up and wants to discuss career progression, career impact, etc. then I could see that being ok. But I would say that unsolicited bringing that up is not ok. It’s mostly just annoying. I have two children and my husband and I have chosen to be done having children. As in, biologically not possible anymore. But I still have people say, “whoa ho, time for #3!” I’m not the type to get all indignant about stuff like that bit it annoys the shit out of me. It’s annoying because it’s overly personal, overly presumptuous, and doesn’t really leave any way for an un-awkward response.
AnotherAlison* June 19, 2014 at 1:16 pm That’s when I prefer the most awkward response I can muster: Well, my husband had a vasectomy in 2006, so that’s not really going to happen, unless I decide to have an affair, ha ha.
Jaime L.* June 19, 2014 at 3:17 pm It’s insanely out of line. I trust that the women nearing 30 are adult enough to have at least considered the thought of children and/or when it would be appropriate for them. By the time you’re 30 and haven’t have a child yet, it’s not like you haven’t had a child simply because you didn’t realize you had the option. It’s a personal decision. Some women choose not to have children. Some are waiting for a better financial situation or when it would be an okay point in their career to have children. Some couples are infertile. Some are going through a lengthy adoption process. As an anecdote, I had a miscarriage in January. My husband and I were trying at that time, but now due to some job uncertainty we are temporarily holding off. We might be relocating and I might need to seek different employment. You need to be at an organization for 1 year to be legally entitled to FMLA. I’m already upset about the miscarriage–it was an ectopic pregnancy and I was in and out of hospitals for a couple of weeks until I naturally miscarried. It was physically tolling on my body and quite an emotionally painful experience for my husband and myself. I would not appreciate comments like “Better get started.” Sorry if TMI. My point is that you cannot know what’s going on in a person’s life and what may be a painful reminder for them. Als0, it’s typically not one person telling you to have kids/asking when are you having kids/etc. As a woman, once you hit a certain age or you’ve been married a certain length of time, you start receiving many comments regarding children. Maybe one comment wouldn’t be too bad, but when several people are mentioning it in your professional and personal life, it gets old fast. The one coworker might not “keep harping on it” but when you’re receiving several comments about it, even if by different people, it’s hard not to feel a little “harped on.”
Lamb* June 19, 2014 at 9:37 pm I’m sorry for your loss, and I agree with your points that 30 is plenty old enough to have had the “baby/no baby” thought oneself, and that every comment can hurt on its own without it being one person harping on the same thing.
Jessa* June 20, 2014 at 7:13 am I am so sorry for your loss, and you said it all way better than I could have. Thank you.
KellyK* June 20, 2014 at 8:53 am I’m really sorry about your miscarriage, and also that people keep making intrusive comments. Thanks for sharing something so personal to give a perfect example of why comments like that are not okay.
Jaime L.* June 20, 2014 at 12:49 pm Thank you everyone for your kind words. I wanted to let you know that I have had time to process everything and am at peace with everything that has happened. Comments about children now would be an inconvenience/mild irritation to me, but back in January people urging me to have kids (“better get started”) or asking me about it would have been devastating when everything felt so raw. Other I folks have had other ongoing misfortunes–fertility issues, multiple miscarriages, stillbirths, etc. There’s just no way to know that’s what’s going on with a person unless they choose to share that with you so in my professional and personal life, I don’t ask people I meet about when they are planning to try for children. If they want me to know, they will share it on their own.
Fabulously Anonymous* June 19, 2014 at 12:24 pm Eh – I don’t believe either of those are illegal. Nosy? Yes. But I don’t know of any statutes that forbid it.
SCW* June 19, 2014 at 1:18 pm It is only illegal if your assumptions about pregnancy lead to decisions impacting employment. Like–I am considering you for a raise and promotion, but I’m going to ask you if you are pregnant so I can decide, so if you are going to get pregnant I need to know so I don’t give you the job and have you need leave. That is illegal. Or I may or may not write you up for something, but if I find out you are pregnant or planning on it, so I decide to go down the disciplinary route so I can fire you before giving you leave. that is illegal.
Gene* June 19, 2014 at 12:51 pm “Thanks for the advice Boss. We’ve been trying for years, but it hasn’t taken. Do you have some advice on sexual positions or techniques that could help me get pregnant? What did you do to get pregnant at 14?”
Lisa* June 19, 2014 at 12:35 pm Anytime a woman in our office was sick that was between 22 – 35, the office manager would immediately suggest they were pregnant. It was very annoying, and bad because the boss would think we were about to get pregnant and suddenly our reviews or just normal conversations with him would focus on personal next steps. Like we weren’t going to get raises or good clients if we even talked about babies as women in our office. Just her suggestion that we could get pregnant meant we were devalued in the eyes of the boss, and any good work we had done got wiped clean with these suggestions as suddenly we were given projects that were slated for us until it was clear we weren’t pregnant.
iseeshiny* June 19, 2014 at 12:39 pm This IS actually illegal. Probably impossible to prove and not worth pursuing, but illegal.
Lisa* June 19, 2014 at 12:52 pm Don’t you have to be pregnant to have it be illegal though? No one ever was until they left so I don’t think its illegal for a ‘perceived’ protected class.
CEMgr* June 19, 2014 at 2:25 pm Yes, it is. Perception by the discriminator (alone) counts, even if erroneous.
KrisL* June 19, 2014 at 8:41 pm This seems like an appropriate time to tell the boss, in wayyyy too much detail details about how sick you felt. Maybe enough of that kind of thing would dampen the boss’s interest.
Ethyl* June 20, 2014 at 2:10 pm I really, really wish I could complain about my ongoing digestive issues, including frequent nausea (doc thinks it’s probably an ulcer, which would make so much sense), without some dodo saying “ohhhh are you pregnant? I bet you’re pregnant!” To me it seems really dehumanizing to constantly be reminded that basically all I am to some people is a walking uterus. Doubly so when it happens at work. Blahblah I’m sure they don’t MEAN it because INTENT IS MAGIC but it really sucks to feel like you can’t even once complain about ANYthing because it’s all about the babies — when are you having them, why aren’t you having them, are you pregnant right now, have you considered getting pregnant, ughhhhhinfininty.
Jamie* June 20, 2014 at 2:30 pm I don’t mean to hijack – but if you think it’s an ulcer oftentimes it’s caused by h pilori – a bacteria – which is pretty easily treated. I’m sure your doctor has had you tested, but wanted to toss this out there – I know people who suffered for a long time with ulcers and this cleared it up.
Tami M* June 20, 2014 at 2:44 pm Ethyl, I’m sorry for your health issues. Hopefully you’ll continue to make progress on resolving them. It sucks to not feel as good as you deserve to. As for the Baby questions; I used to get them ALL the time! I even had several women tell me I HAD to have them. It usually went something like this: Do you have children? No. Oh, you HAVE to have them. No I don’t. OR Do you have children? No. But you HAVE to have them! Why? So you’ll have someone to take care of you when you’re old. That’s not their job.
Marcela* April 20, 2015 at 5:35 pm I always got an extra one: “aren’t you going to give grandchildren to your parents?”. My answer to this, ” if they want grandchildren that bad, yes, I can give birth and leave them with my parents (and return to the US)”, made an old lady, friend of my parents, so angry, that she complained to them about how a cold person I was, blablabla, and she refused to see me and talk to me for several visits. Better for me XD
Anonymouse* June 23, 2014 at 2:59 pm Didn’t you know? Women are never actually ill, as they aren’t really people.
J-nonymous* June 19, 2014 at 1:27 pm My previous director held a meeting with the entire team to discuss high attrition in the department. The director announced that one person had left because the person was independently wealthy (not true) and didn’t need the money (not true). The director described another person’s leaving as ,”Well, his wife wears the pants in that family and she told him he needed to get a higher paying job.” The director didn’t say this in the same department meeting (because the employee in question was in the room), but the director would say it to anyone who’d listen. A colleague once described this director’s behavior as, “If you ever tell her anything personal, you can see in her eyes that she’s storing away that file for later use…as likely as not to use against you.” Of course, I’m not sure the director’s behavior counts as “nosy” since she as often as not just made up stories about people (including her direct reports) to suit her purposes.
JC* June 19, 2014 at 2:20 pm Oh my lord, that is so inappropriate and that would make me fill with rage. I am a 32-year old married woman who does not plan on having children. Right now two of the other young married folk in my 10-person department are expecting, and after they announced it, I got a lot of, “So, is there anything YOU want to tell us?” That was annoying enough, but nowhere near as inappropriate as this manager seems! And I think I would find it even more deplorable if I did think I was going to have kids/be out on maternity leave sometime in the next few years.
Darth Admin* June 19, 2014 at 2:29 pm I’d be so tempted to make up something obnoxious. “Yes! I’m joining the Glorious Ladies Of Wrestling!” “Yes! SO has just gotten his 12th tattoo and I can’t wait to see how it meshes with his neck ink!” “Yes! Our dog has learned to fly!” etc…
amapola* June 19, 2014 at 10:18 pm Some folks must. Every time someone in my office is pregnant, someone says to me “You’re NEXT!”
Ms. Lemonade* June 19, 2014 at 11:12 pm http://national.deseretnews.com/article/1607/If-your-friends-are-getting-pregnant-youre-probably-next.html It kind of is, because humans are social creatures and are highly weird. HOWEVER, that doesn’t change the fact that asking is wildly inappropriate.
junipergreen* June 20, 2014 at 2:28 pm omg – next time I get one of those “You’re next!!!” I’m just using a flat “Hm. Is pregnancy contagious? That’s not what I learned in school…”
Ezri* July 3, 2014 at 12:21 pm I’ve noticed that this isn’t just an age thing, it’s a married thing with some people. I got married when I was 20, and apparently I missed the memo that marriage is only for reproduction. Tons of people asked me when we were going to start having kids, or if we got engaged because I was pregnant. I was in college at the time, so babies were pretty darn far from my mind. I’m one of those people who has an upset stomach pretty much every morning for about an hour, too, and I’m sooooo tired of people trying to imply that I’m pregnant when they find out. “Ohh, are you sure it isn’t morning sickness?” “Well, I’ve had it my entire life, so yeah.”
A. D. Kay* June 19, 2014 at 3:37 pm I had a coworker advise me that I should have kids because I’m “built” for it. What am I? Livestock?
PucksMuse* June 19, 2014 at 7:33 pm When I told my boss I was pregnant with my first child, he said, “Well, now everybody is going to know what you’ve been up to!” My response was to blink rapidly and leave that air biscuit hovering awkwardly between us.
Cath in Canada* June 20, 2014 at 4:21 pm One former boss would never ask directly, but he once invited everyone plus partners round to his house for a party, and made a big show about saying that the home-made chocolate mousse had raw eggs in it and then looking at all the younger women. My colleague yelled “none of us are pregnant, boss, and anyway we’ve all been drinking wine for two hours!” He never tried that kind of thing again after that :)
Lurker* June 19, 2014 at 11:07 am At ex-job, anytime someone in my department received flowers, my former department director would take the card and read it to see who it was from and what the message was.
kkb* June 19, 2014 at 11:40 am I had a job sharing duties with a receptionst once, she would do this, just open the card and read it. Blew my mind.
Nanc* June 19, 2014 at 12:09 pm I worked at an office where everyone except me would do this! I told my then-boyfriend and he always sent flowers and put the message in classical Latin. I knew just enough to read it. Actually kinda sweet, now that I think about it.
Nusy* June 19, 2014 at 11:10 am A few years ago, I worked for a large retail store. Our store team leaders decided that, to emphasize the “great” wellness benefits we received (2 calls to EAP/year for retail employees; corporate got far better), they should do some sort of a fitness challenge. So under two shift leaders, they organized a Biggest Loser competition. Every week, they posted the starting and ending weights over the time clock for every employee participating, along with combined team loss in pounds and percentage. The plan originally was to treat the winning team to pizza and ice cream (doesn’t that… defeat the purpose?), but the competition fizzled out soon after people realized the supposedly “motivational” idea of posting OTHERS’ weight on the biggest bulletin.
HRNewbie* June 19, 2014 at 11:13 am Urghhh no! I feel for you!!! A lifestyle coach was promoting this idea on a HR forum I belong to and was shot down immediately. I thought it was too ridiculous for anybody to have actually done it
Nusy* June 19, 2014 at 5:58 pm Not for us. With name and photo and all, too. I mean, sure, it’s cool that we have a weight-loss support group and all, but the public display of 1) anyone’s weight and 2) their progress on weight loss is ridiculous, inane, insensitive, stupid, and downright ridiculous. And inane and insensitive, not to mention stupid.
Jessa* June 20, 2014 at 7:16 am And medically dangerous if any employees have eating disorders. That can seriously set people back in treatment or trigger them.
Rebecca* June 19, 2014 at 11:11 am Yes! She’s retired now, but sat in in the cubicle next door to me for years. She eavesdropped on EVERYTHING!! Then, she would ask my coworkers about my personal life to get more info, like “I heard Rebecca on the phone, and she said X to person Y, and is everything OK?” Once, I was on the phone with a coworker, unbeknownst to her, and I said “OK Bubby – will get right on it”. She scolded me for being too familiar with a customer! Plus, she was the master of one upsmanship. If you had a medical issue, she had it, plus two additional things that made it worse. If you saw a bear on the way to work, she saw 3 plus a unicorn. We started talking to each other about fake situations just to hear what she would come up with. I hate to say it, but I’m so glad she retired.
D* June 19, 2014 at 11:28 am Yuk. I hate that. I have a co-worker who is a peer, and would eavesdrop on my conversations and ask me about them. They would look at my monitor and ask me about what I’m working on. Then would ask me what I was working on almost as a status report, so he could present this information to our manager. I was tired of getting in his face about this. Like asking questions such as “Oh, are you the project manager on this project now?” Luckily my manager empathized with me and let me move to another location. The cube in front of the nosey-person-at-large still remains empty. Since my manager didn’t really want to confront the situation head on, people who work in our team know the situation, but everyone else gets some lame story about how the cube belongs to another department.
Mints* June 19, 2014 at 12:29 pm The three bears plus a unicorn lady! I know her, haha The office had a couple slightly clumsy people, and it was an active job, and so they’d often get assorted bruises. But she wouldn’t just get a bruise, she would limp dramatically if she bumped her knee. And someone was in a MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT, and came to work on crutches afterwards, and she also came on crutches after tripping and falling. If someone says “I have a stomach ache” she has appendicitis. (She was not an elderly lady. She was a drama queen and manipulative in other ways, this was just one manifestation of it) She was fired, eventually (finally)
Anne* June 24, 2014 at 8:24 am I work with this person too. Or her clone. Anything someone talks about she has had or done, or a relative had or did, except way worse every single time. And she reads my coworker’s emails over her shoulder and eavesdrops on everyone’s conversations – we’re in a small open-plan area so we can all hear each others’ calls, but the rest of us pretend that we didn’t hear a thing while she always has a comment or wants to know who it was and what they wanted. Her latest thing is giving out WAY too much personal info about other staff members when covering their calls for a day off or a long meeting. Telling callers that Jane is off today because her kid had a stomach bug, so Jane gets asked about how her kid is by complete strangers when she gets back into the office, Joe is out this week because his wife is having pregnancy complications, etc.
AVP* June 19, 2014 at 1:59 pm At my company we call those people “toppers.” As in, anything you say, they feel the need to top it.
Julie* June 19, 2014 at 2:42 pm Well, I did see a turkey walking down the street in Back Bay last month (not a unicorn, but still…)! :)
Mishsmom* June 19, 2014 at 3:34 pm reminds me of Kristin Wiig’s Penelope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX9xNn2f1Go LOL
OhNo* June 19, 2014 at 3:35 pm I had one of those people in my college job. Hers were always about medical issues – if you had a cold, she had the flu; if you had a stomach ache, she had appendicitis; if you were feeling sad, she was severely depressed and on five different types of medication. I have a sneaking suspicion she was a bit of a hypochondriac. She tried it on me exactly once. I mentioned that I had a backache, and she tried to “top” me by saying her backache was the worst pain imaginable. I pulled out the old, “Is that so. Tell me, have you ever felt your spine shatter? Because I have.” Not only did that shut her up, she never complained to me about her many mystery ailments again.
Anonalicious* June 19, 2014 at 11:13 am I have two coworkers who started asking me when I was going to have a baby which started almost immediately after I got married. After suffering through almost 3 years of fertility issues we have a healthy, happy little girl. Now these same 2 coworkers, who knew it took us a while to have a baby, keep asking when I’m having more kids and that I need to have more kids because kids need siblings. Yeah, sure great, the plan was to have 2 kids, but I’m not sure my 35+ year old body is ready for it (other health issues have come up) nor am I sure my head and my heart are ready to want something they might not be able to have. The worst part was the last time the one coworker asked me that it was at a table of almost our entire department out at a farewell lunch for someone who was leaving. I didn’t even know what to say at first because I was stunned she would ask that so publicly. Some coworkers know more about my issues than others, some don’t know at all. The conversations all stopped and everyone looked at me like I was going to announce I was pregnant or something. I mumbled out some response about one being plenty right now, and everyone went back to what they were doing, but on the inside I wanted to cry. I wanted to send her an email later asking her to stop asking me that because I may not be able to have more children, but I don’t want her questions to turn to “helpful” getting pregnant advice.
Chelsea B.* June 19, 2014 at 11:28 am You can still ask her to stop without disclosing why! And you should, it’s none of her business. She needs to understand that this is inappropriate behavior regardless of if you are having fertility issues or not.
Angora998* June 19, 2014 at 11:47 am I had my new boss ask me if I had any medical issues she needed to know about last week. That it seemed that admin personnel always have health issues. I informed her that people that work with public get sick about 20 – 30 % more than other places. Let’s put it this way … I am the 4th admin person hired within that last four year and I am all ready searching. I was so happy to get back with a former employer in a permanent position. I just moved back to the state. No wonder everyone had doctor appts … they were job searching.
KSM* June 19, 2014 at 11:29 am Follow Miss Manner’s advice: respectfully ask for the behaviour to stop, don’t give them a reason to wiggle out of. So cut out everything after the ‘because’. “While I enjoy our talks, unfortunately discussion of any potential future children of mine makes me uncomfortable. Is it possible that we could avoid that topic in the future?” If you want, you can add “but of course we can always discuss your kids/grandkids/plans” if you feel the situation is appropriate. If she asks WHY it makes you uncomfortable, just say it’s something you prefer to keep between your spouse and yourself.
Anonalicious* June 19, 2014 at 11:42 am I have said similar things to her before and it stops for a while, but inevitably she starts in again. I don’t know if she does this with anyone else in the department, but most of the women in our department either already have a couple of kids each, or are well into middle age with teenagers and their baby having days are long over. I’m basically the youngest woman and the most recently married/to have a baby. I think I will send her one last message, very clearly as you have suggested, and if she ever does it again, I’m going to my boss.
Natalie* June 19, 2014 at 12:05 pm Yeah, with people like this you usually have to keep on them periodically. But you can be pretty short with her since you’ve brought it up before. At this point, she’s the one with the etiquette issue so you can be a lot more firm than you might be to someone who you hadn’t discussed this. Short and sweet: “Yvette, this is not something I will discuss with you” and walk away.
hildi* June 19, 2014 at 12:49 pm I suppose if you’re up for it, you don’t even need to respond. I’m slowly learning that not every stupid, misguided, or nasty comment needs a response. I have been teaching in one of my classes about telephone silence (if a customer is ranting and ranting on the phone, just don’t respond at all. It forces them to respond to you, not the other way around). If you have already tried to tell her that those comments bother you and to stop and she doesn’t listen or doesn’t really take it seriously – I’d just overtly not respond to her next time she says something that is trying to illicit a response from you. That’s a power play she’s doing and don’t take the bait from her. It would take some aplomb to be able to pull that move off, but I think it could be very effective over time.
Not So NewReader* June 19, 2014 at 2:48 pm Drop the hammer the next time it happens. Forget being polite. “Jane, I told you before this is not a topic open for discussion. ” Then report her. No need to be nice. And there is no need for you to have to keep going through this.
GrumpyBoss* June 19, 2014 at 12:21 pm Miss Manners would not approve my way of handling this, but I have found that my only recourse in this type of conversation is to be rude and crass. When it comes to baby making, it seems that common courtesy does not apply. At some point, the average Joe (or Jane) decided that what goes on on my womb is acceptable conversation for near strangers. It is not. So I take matters into my own hands to make it clear that we aren’t talking about this. When are you going to have a baby? When the condom breaks. Offensive? I certainly hope so. People tend to receive this message loud and clear.
Laura2* June 19, 2014 at 1:08 pm Yep. You get a polite response ONCE, and then I’m no longer required to pretend to think you’re not an nosy idiot. Everyone else in the world seems to get that these things aren’t appropriate workplace discussions, so I have a hard time giving leeway to these people.
Turanga Leela* June 19, 2014 at 1:47 pm Yup. Sometimes it’s worth it to have a conversation-ending response that says, essentially, STFU. Sometimes it’s sarcastic (e.g. “When the condom breaks”), sometimes just truthful and deadpan (“Actually, I’ve had fertility problems, so probably never”). However, some people are immune to embarrassment, and this strategy doesn’t work on them.
Dmented Kitty* June 25, 2014 at 3:42 pm “So when are you having kids?” “I don’t know… I’m not that hungry yet.”
Darth Admin* June 19, 2014 at 2:32 pm Or something like “We’re not sure. Have you started menopause yet?” But I’m evil.
Not So NewReader* June 19, 2014 at 2:50 pm Guess that makes me evil, too. “So when are you going to get that plastic surgery done on your nose to have it removed from my business?”
Sabrina* June 19, 2014 at 3:10 pm You could also go with “Enough about my sex life, let’s talk about yours. Do you like it up the butt?”
Katie the Fed* June 19, 2014 at 11:32 am I can’t believe how many people don’t get how completely inappropriate to ask people about their family planning, fertility, etc. I have talked about it with VERY close friends, but that’s it. If we’re not friends, why on earth are you asking. I did see a response once I loved, that I would never have the courage to use, of “are you asking me if we’re planning to have unprotected sex?” Because seriously, asking about these things is SO inappropriate you don’t need to give a reason.
NylaW* June 19, 2014 at 11:39 am Exactly. I would never ask about anything like that except very close friends that are probably going to tell me without me asking.
Natalie* June 19, 2014 at 12:07 pm I don’t know if I’d actually do this, but it’d be so satisfying to get into the gory details. “Well, I have a Mirena IUD, so I’ll have to get that removed. Let me tell you how they do that. Are you familiar with how they dilate your cervix?” And that’s the non-pornographic details.
Katie the Fed* June 19, 2014 at 12:15 pm My oversharing Millennial actually DID start trying to tell me about getting her IUD installed. I stopped her fast.
Del* June 19, 2014 at 12:24 pm My oversharing Boomer stepmother did the same. And I was in the car so I couldn’t even make a quick escape!
the_scientist* June 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm This is what the “tuck and roll” was created for! When I turned 21 my own mother cornered me and told me that my “eggs were now in their prime, so I better find someone to settle down with soon”. Unfortunately I wasn’t in a moving vehicle at the time because I would have jumped out of it to escape….
Bea W* June 19, 2014 at 4:10 pm My over sharing uncle emailed everyone graphic blow by blows of his prostate cancer treatment, complete with actual graphics. Email us easy enough to filter, but some things cannot be unseen.
HR Diva* June 20, 2014 at 11:02 am lol – on the flip side that’s always my thought when coworkers or acquaintances announce that they are “trying”. “So, basically you are announcing that you are having unprotected sex.” yuck – don’t want to know…
Anonna Miss* June 20, 2014 at 4:12 pm I’m with you, HR Diva. I really don’t need an announcement of this, and consider it oversharing.
Anonsie* June 19, 2014 at 12:26 pm This is why you don’t get nosy about other people having kids. Take notes, folks. I wanted to send her an email later asking her to stop asking me that because I may not be able to have more children, but I don’t want her questions to turn to “helpful” getting pregnant advice. And that’s exactly what happens, too. At least in my experience. Or they just start poking you to adopt. “You have lots of options!” Stop this crap, people. Stop it.
Elizabeth West* June 19, 2014 at 1:53 pm Yes, please stop. I’m also tired of hearing that I have plenty of time, because I don’t. Sorry I look younger than I am there.
Kai* June 19, 2014 at 1:38 pm We had a temp who told us that her sister had some kind of condition that kept her from being able to carry a child, and so she was extra sensitive to those sorts of questions and comments. Fine, great. Then a week later she up and asked my other coworker whether he and his wife were going to have children.
Diet Coke Addict* June 19, 2014 at 11:13 am Ages ago, I had a teenage coworker in a retail job who I think honestly did not know there was nothing wrong with asking coworkers incredibly invasive questions. Everything from “What do your parents do? How much money do they make?” to “How much is your rent?” to “You were sick? Were you throwing-up sick, or sneezing everywhere sick?” to asking about my husband, who’s a different race from me: “Where do you even MEET someone like that? Does he speak English?” After I told her I picked him out of a catalogue, she didn’t talk to me much any more.
Blue Anne* June 19, 2014 at 12:20 pm Bwahahaha! Great response. Sounds like it wasn’t any loss to you.
Tea* June 19, 2014 at 12:33 pm While some of those questions are incredibly out of line, (“Does he speak English”?!? What the heck!) I don’t really see what’s wrong with asking after things like rent or parent jobs if it comes up in conversation. For example, if somehow the topic of parents came up, and you mention something tangentially related to their work– “Oh, what do they do?” Or if you were scoping out moving to a new place, and wanted to see what average rent looked like, maybe asking after that instead, so long as you’re not demanding any answers. That said, my tolerance for money-and-career related talk is high and I don’t consider it crass or invasive for other people to ask me about money or spending (so long as they’re not wanting me to justify any of it). Most of the people around me (family, in my social circle, at my work) are the same or similar, so having a question like that considered way inappropriate is pretty new to me.
Diet Coke Addict* June 19, 2014 at 12:44 pm Asking what my parents do is not all that strange if it comes up in conversation. Asking how much they MAKE is way out of line, considering that it is not my information to share. But I don’t like to discuss money with my coworkers, or anyone, for that matter–it just leads down a terrible road of “You make THAT much?” “You’re getting ripped off!” “They must have seen you coming” and so forth.
Bea W* June 19, 2014 at 7:14 pm I wonder if she’s asking those types of questions because she is thinking about what kind of career she might want to go into and wants information, but doesn’t realize it’s not polite to ask people how much your parents make, at least not without some kind of context for doing so. “Oh, your mom is a teapot spout engineer? I’m trying to decide what career I want to go into and am really interested in teapot engineering. How much they make?” I actually had a college professor ask us to ask people how much money they made at their jobs so we could learn what to expect after graduating. I was appalled and just couldn’t do it, but the rest of the class seemed to be totally okay with it. The professor meant for us to do this in the context of having an upfront discussion adults about the details of their careers and not as personal probing, but I just could not get past my “OMG TOTALLY RUDE! You don’t ask people how much money they make EVER!” reaction. She may as well have told us to ask people if they like it up the butt. I did everything on the assignment but that and got dinged for it. Maybe someone gave this girl not an assignment specifically, but similar advice on what questions were important to ask to find out about different careers. Salary is actually important and useful information to have when considering what field to go into.
Jen RO* June 19, 2014 at 3:21 pm Yeah, i don’t see a problem with the rent question. I won’t discuss my (or someone else’s) salary, but how much I paid for X item is harmless to me.
Anonsie* June 19, 2014 at 12:33 pm I love that response. My partner is a different race from me, and our specific combination is an uncommon one that people love to talk about totally unsolicited in a really judgy way. They’ll comment that it’s weird and ask why I do it and if he’s actually from another country. He is, so I like to tell people “Oh yeah, I imported this one directly from the source.” That usually shuts it down, but a few times I swear people looked like they thought he was actually a mail-order husband.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 12:38 pm I wonder if mail order husbands meet higher QC standards than the feral ones most of us have to trap from the wild? I did okay, but if I had to write the standards on those I think I’d require the ability to fold a towel properly.
Diet Coke Addict* June 19, 2014 at 12:46 pm I dunno, my imported mail-order man can fold a towel OK, but seems to be wholly incapable of leaving his shoes anywhere besides immediately inside the entryway. (Why? Why? Why?) But as you know with these complicated transactions: you pays your money, you takes your chances.
Anonsie* June 19, 2014 at 1:02 pm I’m just waiting for the day I can order a custom robot husband like Absolute Boyfriend or Chobits that is literally programmed to put their clean clothes away and degrease the stove and de-shed the collie they just HAD to have so we don’t get little tumbledogs of hair under all the furniture, Mr. Anonsie.
Anonicorn* June 19, 2014 at 2:41 pm I was sorely mistaken during my first couple years of marriage when I assumed my flesh-and-blood husband came with the biological imperative to take out the trash.
Tennessee* June 19, 2014 at 1:47 pm oh man, I can’t breathe for laughing! keep seeing groups of women stomping through the woods with nets…
James M* June 19, 2014 at 4:20 pm If you’re trapping feral ones, the ones you catch are only going to be ones that fall for the trap. … maybe that’s the idea; I’m sure I don’t know…
Jessa* June 20, 2014 at 7:23 am Thank you Jamie, my keyboard now has a nice coating of Pepsi. So does my nose.
Diet Coke Addict* June 19, 2014 at 12:45 pm People ask that too! All the time! And then they’ll say “Oh, I just don’t like [x race] men, haha!” and I have to give them a weird look and tell them “I’m a strange person for you to tell that to.” I will never, ever, ever understand it.
Mints* June 19, 2014 at 12:56 pm Wait what?! Those people will forever be filled in my head as “secretly/subconsciously racist.” I would avoid them at all costs I might actually say “That’s racist” if I can plausibly never see them again
Anonsie* June 19, 2014 at 12:59 pm Oh man I’m pretty sure our guys are the same race. I am blown away by how many people think it’s totally normal to say this, sometimes right when I freaking meet them for the first time. But only for this one group. NPR’s Code Switch actually brought this up a few months ago to a chorus of “It happens to me, too!!” from readers.
Mints* June 19, 2014 at 12:47 pm That’s too funny. I wonder if ever figured out the joke, or forever think of you as “Anonsie and her husband she custom ordered from a magazine”
Anonsie* June 19, 2014 at 2:03 pm I like to think they’ll believe it forever. I feel like you wouldn’t want to cross someone who clearly has that many issues.
Lamington* June 19, 2014 at 9:40 pm My husband is from another race and country and my friends when they met him, they said I liked exotic man.
Carpe Librarium* June 19, 2014 at 11:27 pm I like my men like I like my coffee; imported from developing nations at exploitative prices.
Kay* June 19, 2014 at 1:02 pm Honestly, I think I may have been a nosy person in general in my early to mid-teens… Kids overshare with each other all the time. Some take longer to grow out of it than others. And of course some never do. It’s like the conversation above about when people are having kids. I’m sure I asked some people that when I was in the 12-15 range which may seem like old enough to know better, but I obviously didn’t. Being an adult has taught me so much about stuff like that.
Tami M* June 19, 2014 at 1:56 pm “After I told her I picked him out of a catalogue, she didn’t talk to me much any more.” PRICELESS!!!!! :)
PJ* June 19, 2014 at 2:15 pm Oh, this is great! Reminds me of the person who asked me, upon learning that my then-fiance was Philipino, if having sex with an Asian was “different.”
Not So NewReader* June 19, 2014 at 2:56 pm “Yes, it’s totally different. You have to get an instruction book.” grrrrr.
Mel* June 19, 2014 at 4:38 pm Ouch, a catalog! My hubby is Russian, and I have been asked numerous times if he’s a mail-order husband. I don’t have a great comeback other that raising an eyebrow and staring, though that seems to work fairly well overall.
Bea W* June 19, 2014 at 7:21 pm I hate mail order. I have to go to the husband store and try a few before I can decide which one I want. Ordering from a catalog you never know if they run big or small.
Dmented Kitty* June 25, 2014 at 3:49 pm I order them through Amazon Prime. Two-day free shipping, and returns are easy!
MinB* June 20, 2014 at 2:11 pm My 60-something manager always pries into the details if I call in sick. I said I had a stomach bug. Do you really want me to go into the details about what’s coming out which end? Really?!
Bonnie Doon* June 23, 2014 at 9:28 am Asking where you meet people like your husband and if they speak English is totally legitimate if he comes from Jupiter.
Renegade Rose* June 19, 2014 at 11:16 am One of my current coworkers has trouble believing that I, a twenty-four year old newlywed, do not want children for the foreseeable future. During lunch, I was talking to another coworker about how I enjoy volunteering at our local humane society. “Nancy” jumped in and said that I “should start popping out babies so I have less free time.” When she met my husband (he came to take me out to lunch) she told him that “A real man would have gotten me pregnant by now.” After I returned, she asked if we “made a baby over lunch.” At first, I just ignored her but as her comments got worse and more frequent I would stare at her and just say “Wow” or “I fail to see how my reproductive plans are any of your business.” The comments have mostly stopped at this point because she started making them to another coworker’s wife. He ended up yelling at her in the parking lot because it turns out they had been trying to conceive for over two years. All this to say, it’ s really best not to ask about people’s reproductive plans.
TRT* June 19, 2014 at 11:27 am I feel for you. I am also young and married and I can’t believe co-workers would ask these questions – even men! It is so personal and insensitive.
TL* June 19, 2014 at 11:30 am You…should start popping out babies so you have less free time? Like, oh, I actually really hate volunteering and the only way to get out of it is to reproduce? And god forbid any person asks if I’ve made a baby during lunch, because while I try to observe societal norms in regards to talking about baby-makin’ activities, it honestly does not bother me to share detailed, detailed reports and that would be my first impulse.
Natalie* June 19, 2014 at 12:09 pm “god forbid any person asks if I’ve made a baby during lunch” The first time I read this I thought your co-workers were asking if you and your husband had sex over lunch. That was… weird.
CollegeAdmin* June 19, 2014 at 12:37 pm How else did you read it? Because that’s definitely the implication I got!
Natalie* June 19, 2014 at 1:21 pm 2nd interpretation: that they were all talking over lunch, and co-workers asked about baby-making activities.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 12:45 pm Makes my upcoming lunch of an italian beef seem kind of anticlimactic. Although it comping baptized Catholic. :)
Barney Stinson* June 19, 2014 at 2:23 pm You said ‘anti-climactic.’ I’m laughing, because I’m twelve, apparently.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 2:37 pm Wow that was totally unintentional. But now I’m laughing so I’ll take credit…totally did that on purpose. :)
Jennifer* June 19, 2014 at 6:56 pm I think that’s exactly what she asked. To which I say EWWWWWWWWWWWW TMI NOOOOOOOOOOOO NONE OF YER BUSINESS.
Alex* June 19, 2014 at 11:42 am A-friggen-men to this – first it’s always “When are you guys going to get married?” Then, once you’re married, it’s “When are you going to start having kids?” And then whatever you say to that, you’re wrong and not thinking clearly, obviously. I’ve basically elimated the phrases “Guess what?” and “I’ve got an exciting announcement!” from my vocabulary because everytime I’d say something like that, since I was about 19 years old, people seem disappointed when it’s not news about babies or engagements.
Leah* June 19, 2014 at 12:10 pm I think you’re handling it backwards. Use those phrases all the time, even for small things. Eventually, people will stop being expectant of more fecund news.
Mints* June 19, 2014 at 12:53 pm I have great news! I found $5 in the parking lot! Guess what everyone! My zappos package came two days early! I have an exciting announcement! My cholesterol is down! I like this idea
Rin* June 19, 2014 at 12:48 pm What are the next stages? “When are you going to go through menopause?” and “When are you going to die?” – you could use those as a response, I suppose. Yikes, people, young women are not episodes of Days of Our Lives.
Turanga Leela* June 19, 2014 at 1:54 pm In my admittedly limited experience, they ask you for a while longer if you’re planning to have any more kids (up through #3, maybe?), then you get a break, then lots of questions about where they’re going to school/college, then when are your KIDS getting married/having kids.
Jillian* June 19, 2014 at 7:31 pm Ha, yes. I have cancer and shortly after diagnosis a co-worker asked how much longer I was expected to live. I just shook my head, said “Wow”, and walked away.
Carpe Librarium* June 19, 2014 at 11:35 pm “A helluva lot longer than you, if you don’t shut your mouth and walk away right now.” is what I would say, very loudly, in my head, five minutes later after I stopped gaping at that person.
Lisa* June 19, 2014 at 12:48 pm lol, oh man. I need to use this line to mess with these people. I think I will go up to the nosiest people and all happy, smiling with my left hand and proudly show off my non-existent engagement ring, ‘i’ve got exciting news! I got a manicure!’ Might as well turn it around and have fun with ‘no news’. Though we worked with women that would announce their engagements during extremely difficult client meetings in which no one could respond to their rings until out of the meeting. They would hide their left hands until in the meetings and be super obvious so co-workers would notice the ring and not be able to gush. It was amusing.
Jen S. 2.0* June 19, 2014 at 2:10 pm I think the progression is: *Are you dating anyone? (If not, what’s wrong with you?) *Any engagement news? (If not, what’s wrong with you?) *So when’s the wedding? (Am I invited? Are you serving X?) *Are you trying to get knocked up? (If not, what’s wrong with you?) *When are you due? (Insert unhelpful advice.) *Are you ready for another one? (If not, what’s wrong with you?) *Don’t you want to try for a [opposite sex]? (If not, what’s wrong with you?) *(after a third child) Ha ha, don’t you know what’s causing that? (If not, what’s wrong with you?) I THINK they may leave you alone if you are semi-happily partnered with a child of each sex, BUT I’m sure they have some stupid, unoriginal tripe they say to that as well.
Not So NewReader* June 19, 2014 at 3:00 pm Nooo…. next is the medical tests. “Did you have x test? You really should you know.” Then y test and so on.
Jen S. 2.0* June 19, 2014 at 5:12 pm Ha, I didn’t know that! I’m 38 and single, so I’m still stuck on “Are you dating anyone? (If not, what’s wrong with you?)” I guess once I move out of childbearing years, I’ll skip straight to medical tests.
Amanda* June 20, 2014 at 7:44 am This is 1000% true. Ugh. I’m between 2 & 3 right now and it boggles people that I I don’t already know every detail of the wedding that I have, quite frankly, not a ton of interest in planning. Can’t wait for the pregnancy questions. Ugh, again.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 2:43 pm You know it’s funny – I have a work friend who is about 15 years younger than I and before she got married she would talk to me about her boyfriend and where she was at with marriage and her thoughts etc. She told me later I was the only one she talked to about it because I was the only one who never asked. She said she knew I didn’t care if she got married or not so she could just talk without it being a “thing.” Same deal now that she’s married – when she talks about babies or not she knows I just listen and don’t care if or when they do. I mean I care about them as people – I’m just in favor of people living their own lives and don’t need to push a weird time table or babies on other people. Why do people do that anyway? Why do people care when others get married or have kids? Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad I did both…but I never felt the need to force people into joining “have less money and zero free time for the next 20 years or so…and say goodbye to white sofas” club.
hildi* June 19, 2014 at 4:24 pm “Why do people do that anyway? Why do people care when others get married or have kids? ” I have always kind of thought that it was about those people trying to subconsciously reinforce their decision or something. Like, “if I pressure everyone else or if they do it then it means that my decision wasn’t so bad/the right one, etc. ” I dunno. I’m sure it’s more complex than that but I bet that’s at the heart of at least some people’s stupidity over this. Becuase i totally agree with you – who cares? (then again I’m too wrapped up in the world of Team Hildi to spend much time judging their decisions). :)
Jen S. 2.0* June 19, 2014 at 5:18 pm I think it’s very much this. There are a LOT of people who think, “If a majority of people around me are doing something similar to what I’m doing / have done / want to do, then it means that I’m normal and I’ve made the right choices.” In reality, it means no such thing, but that’s an uncomfortable thought.
Not usually anon* June 19, 2014 at 11:17 am It might be me!! When I worked in a busy healthcare office, we staggered lunches and I was typically alone when I arrived in the kitchen. The fridge was always full of takeout containers and I’d often peek in to see what tasty things other people brought and see if I could guess what restaurant it came from. I never touched the food and I DEFINITELY never ate/stole any of it but my husband tells me that was super weird/nosy behavior. But I like living vicariously through others’ food choices!
Leeloo* June 19, 2014 at 11:34 am Eh, I don’t really think that’s out of bounds. If you were eating at the same time as other people, you would naturally have conversations about “Ooh, that looks good, where is that from?” I mean, if you looked around in the fridge and then went up to someone and went “Was that you that brought in takeout from ___?” or made some inappropriate comment about nutrition, that’d be nosy and weird. But being interested in other people’s food seems… pretty normal to me, at least.
Alex* June 19, 2014 at 11:44 am Yea I’d probably think that was super wierd if someone was opening my food container for no reason, especially if was like in a lunch bag or tupperware from home. At least with a takeout box you can play it off like you were just looking for your takeout box.
Angora998* June 19, 2014 at 11:52 am I would have not have liked it. Once one of your co-workers catch you … you are going have something jump out of the tubberware at you. You could be accused of tampering with food. Please , leave it alone.
Angora998* June 19, 2014 at 11:53 am Clarification … if you are opening it; please stop. One thing to view it through a “clear” container.
Tami M* June 20, 2014 at 3:21 pm I once worked with a Doctor who’d go through the fridge after lunch, and start eating the leftovers people saved. (he was new to the office). Fortunately, he didn’t try to hide it and came walking out eating someone’s food right in front of them. When they said ‘Hey, you’re eating my food!’, he replied that he didn’t realize it was theirs. Well, he for sure knew it wasn’t HIS!!! He didn’t stop until we explained that it wasn’t ok to eat the food in the fridge unless he brought it himself. Some mothers’ children. :/
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 11:47 am You’d open the containers or look at the containers? Looking is fine – but even if not touching the food opening them to look inside definitely crosses a line. I’m with your husband on that if anything was opened.
Leeloo* June 19, 2014 at 11:57 am Ah- yes, this. I read it as that Not usually anon was just looking in the fridge at the containers, if it’s not that then it’s surely a crossed line.
AMT* June 19, 2014 at 11:59 am I interpreted it on my first reading as “I’d often peek INTO the food containers,” but I think I read it wrong. (If that was the case, yeah, that’s very weird. No touchy my foody.)
Snork Maiden* June 19, 2014 at 12:01 pm I don’t think this is overly intrusive – you’re not hurting anyone, you’re not touching anything, and you’re not digging through someone’s desk or interrogating them about restaurants. This is sort of like admiring your neighbour’s front garden from the sidewalk – you’re not ringing their doorbell and walking all over their plants.
Snork Maiden* June 19, 2014 at 12:05 pm though I wouldn’t go so far as to open the containers. Even if you’re not touching the food, it’s still a bit ew. Now I’m thinking about North American cultural mores for food! We have a lot of them and most of them we don’t talk about except when instructing children.
Leah* June 19, 2014 at 12:14 pm If you’re opening other people’s takeout containers then, yes, your husband is right. That is invasive, even if your aren’t coming into contact with the food. If it’s just looking through a clear plastic lid on top, then that’s not so bad. However, when I get take out for lunch, I eat it immediately. Any takeout containers I put in the fridge are going to be things I brought from home.
JoJo* June 19, 2014 at 12:16 pm It is weird/nosy behavior. Their food choices are none of your business, and if I caught a co-worker opening my lunch, I’d complain straight to HR. Do you really think anyone wants you pawing through/sneezing on their lunches?
Anonsie* June 19, 2014 at 12:36 pm That is super weird, I’m not gonna lie. But if you’re not actually opening anything I wouldn’t say it’s invasive or that you shouldn’t do it. Just… Weird.
Mena* June 19, 2014 at 1:12 pm You are crossing boundaries and it isn’t about what you like. Please listen to your husband.
Amy B.* June 19, 2014 at 3:09 pm I personally would not care if someone popped open the top of my takeout container and looked at my food. Thanks for sharing and admitting you were the nosey one. It’s easy to point out other people’s faux pas, but not our own.
Another Job Seeker* June 20, 2014 at 8:01 am I think this is a bit odd. Would you do this if people were in the room with you? If not, it might be a good idea to consider the boundaries that other people may think you are crossing (even if you do not believe you are crossing any boundaries). This is why I do not leave food in the refrigerator at work. If my food needs to stay cold, I will bring it in a container with blue ice. (I will leave unopened bottles of water or other drinks, however). Just nothing people can open up and go through. Obviously, we do not know whether Not usually anon is opening people’s food, but it is possible for anyone to do so.
Tami M* June 20, 2014 at 3:11 pm Not usually anon, I too like seeing what tasty treats people have. I won’t usually search it out, but if they’re at the table, I might ask where it came from, if they made it themselves, etc… Heck, it might be a recipe they’d be willing to share. :) Loooong ago, I worked with this girl who would always get something for lunch and bring it back to eat. Being the foodie that I am, I’d usually say ‘Mmmm, that smells so good!.’ She’d give me the funniest looks, until one day she (hesitantly) asked if I wanted some. I realized she’d been thinking I was ‘slyly’ trying to get her to share her lunch with me, (I was so embarrassed!) so I apologized for the misunderstanding and explained that I just enjoyed the smell of food wafting in the air. She laughed and from that point on we made a joke of it. Now I’m careful to add…’Where’d you get it, I might want to try it some time myself.’.
johnny* June 19, 2014 at 11:21 am I started on a new job recently and there’s a female colleague in my company who likes to poke her nose into everything. On my first day, she was so overly friendly that it sort of creeped me out. E.g. asking me for my Facebook, numbers, religion etc. She also likes to ask a lot of questions, be it personal life or about the work that people are do which do not concern her. I was shocked when, for the first time, she just entered my cubicle and looked right at my PC screen and asked “what are you doing”. Fortunately, it wasn’t anything confidential, just emails and she just assumed that I was clearing my inbox, when I wasn’t. :/ she did that to a lot of people, I realised. A colleague was so pissed that she scolded her right on the spot. I’m surprised that she does that even though she’s older and has more working experience than me. Recently she got complaint by a co-worker (heard from another colleague) and it sort of shut her up. I’m not sure if she knows who reported her, but I’m afraid she thinks it was me because it happened after I joined. Also, another problematic thing about her was that she likes to talk a lot of non-work related stuff at work, or make excuses for work. E.g. a supervisor told her to do things in A manner, she will kept insisting B manner and find whole lots of excuse. It’s kind of annoying since previous time are wasted, especially when one is rushing for a deadline or what. How should we deal with such colleague, without sounding mean? For myself, I don’t really see her as a potential friend, so would like to keep what I share with her to the minimal. I just feel she’s trying too hard to fit in. I understand that she’s new, but it’s just makes everyone awkard.
Angora998* June 19, 2014 at 11:55 am Be nice … but tell her that you do like sharing your private life with your co-workers.
Chinook* June 19, 2014 at 1:23 pm “On my first day, she was so overly friendly that it sort of creeped me out. E.g. asking me for my Facebook, numbers, religion etc. She also likes to ask a lot of questions, be it personal life or about the work that people are do which do not concern her. ” I have heard of people like this but never met one. Which is good, because this many questions of that type would probably get answers like “I worship the Flying Spagetti Monster and I would really like to invite you to our bi-weekly dinner where we sacrifice small children. So, do you have any kids?” Sorry, but I have a low tolerance for the religion question unless someone actually knows me or we are in a setting that it makes sense in (i.e. you see the Sunday School textbook peaking out of my bag).
Angora* June 19, 2014 at 6:43 pm Dear Chinook: Agree with you about the religion ?. Years ago the head secretary in my dept asked what church I go. I made the mistake of saying I do not attend church. I was her dirt list after that …. than a few years later she was spreading rumors that I was gay. I’m divorced and dating .. but didn’t share my details with her. One day she was going through the faculty and GTF’s schedule cards trying to see who lived with who …. IN SIN> Some people are so interested in what others, so busy snooping I do not see how they get their work done.
Chinook* June 19, 2014 at 8:48 pm Angora, the irony about the whole thing is I love talking theology and philosphy and am very open about my faith but I also know it is information I should be free to offer and not demanded from me. When spoken about with the wrong type of person, it is a pointless conversation that can cause a lot of problems. When talked about with the right person (and by that I mean their state of mind and not their faith) it can be quite enjoyable and allow for great insight and even friendship to all parties involved.
Angora* June 19, 2014 at 9:15 pm I agree with you. It depends if they are open minded or asking with a hidden agenda.
a.n.o.n.* June 19, 2014 at 11:22 am At my former job I was a VP at a very small bank. We fired a branch manager for things such as drinking on the job, allowing his wife to forge her daughter’s signature so she could withdraw funds from the daughter’s account (large settlement; the daughter knew about it and it was a case of her not wanting to come into the branch so the mom would withdraw the money), borrowing money from a well-to-do customer and not paying it back, and a few other things. We told everyone that the manager is no longer with the bank. End of story. Most people had an inkling as to what was going on so it wasn’t questioned. The following day a coworker of mine came into my office, closed the door and sat down. She then proceeded to ask me what happened to Joe. I told her he left the bank. She continued to press so I said, “He left the bank. It’s none of your business what happened. It’s between him and his boss. How would you feel if people asked questions like this about you if you left, and we proceeded to air your dirty laundry? Would you want us to tell everyone?” She didn’t ask me anymore after that. But I found out later that she had asked everyone in the office and was gossiping about it. And this is the same coworker who would always complain that so-and-so got to “float into the office whenever she [felt] like it” and “it’s so unfair.” Um, the woman in question was the accountant and had different job requirements than the complainer, who had to deal with customers during business hours.
Katie the Fed* June 19, 2014 at 11:43 am I can SORT of see asking about it to make sure you’re not going to get fired for the same thing. Like, we had someone fired here and it really spooked some of the newer people (we really can fire people in government). Several of them approached me to ask because I tend to be pretty in-the-know (this was before I was a manager). I asked why they were asking and they were just worried about their own futures, so I told them that the disciplinary process had been followed and nobody is ever fired without warnings, so it would never come as a surprise. That helped.
some1* June 19, 2014 at 1:04 pm +1. I think it’s a good idea to reassure existing staff that it was an issue with the particular employee so people don’t think their jobs are in danger.
A.n.o.n.* June 19, 2014 at 8:04 pm I see what you’re saying and if it was asked in a concerned manner by someone not known as a busybody I would agree; however, this was done in a “tell me the dirt” kind of way. And this wasn’t the first time she had done something like this.
TRT* June 19, 2014 at 11:22 am My former co-worker made it his business to know how much everyone’s house cost. We were interviewing someone once and while debating on his qualifications he said “Well I know they could afford to take this job because I looked up his address and his house is only worth x amount (we worked at a non-profit, so salaries aren’t fabulous). When he overheard that my partner and I made an offer on a house he immediately asked for the address and pulled it up online to look at it and was like “Oooh, well that’s a good price on a house. Don’t do what we did and spend $xxx,xxx (like $100K more than what we were spending). Apparently since his fiance is a doctor and they can afford a much more expensive house than some, that made him a better person. Ugh.
butterbeans* June 19, 2014 at 11:54 am I worked with a real winner who used her knowledge of my salary and other bits of overheard conversation to harass me about the house “mommy and daddy bought for me.” (though, she wasn’t actually nosy enough to look up the public records and see that I am the sole owner, I suppose.) It was actually constant enough that guilt over my parents generosity in helping with my down payment became a topic with my therapist.
Various Assumed Names* June 19, 2014 at 12:34 pm This is horrible. I mean, I’ve snooped on a home value or two in my life but I keep it to myself.
arjay* June 19, 2014 at 1:16 pm This! I like information as much as any nosy person, but when I go snooping (online only – so information that is publicly available), I keep it to myself. And I’m not interested enough in my coworkers to care to snoop. So I can be nosy, but at least I’m not a gossip.
My 2 Cents* June 19, 2014 at 11:24 am I have a coworker who has to know EVERYTHING that is going on in the office and it kills him when he doesn’t know. One day our bosses were having a meeting in the conference room, and after enduring many nosy questions previous, the conversation went like this: Co-worker: “What’s going on in the conference room?” me: “A meeting to which you weren’t invited” CW: “What are they discussing?” me: “Something to which your bosses did not find it necessary to include you in.” He got the hint.
Diet Coke Addict* June 19, 2014 at 11:29 am The guy who held my job before me was legendary for doing this. At one time he went into the boss’s office while three other people were having a meeting in there, paced along the back of the room, and asked “Did I get fired and somebody forgot to tell me?” before asking if he could sit in on the meeting that had nothing to do with him. Apparently he also used to stand up and listen to phone calls while leaning over the cube wall.
Greyhound Mom* June 19, 2014 at 11:39 am OMG – some of my co-workers thought that I had written this post!!! Too funny. I have the same exact situation with a male co-worker except he does NOT take a hint.
some1* June 19, 2014 at 1:08 pm This reminds me of a great line a friend of mine used to use. If someone overhead him talking about someone and asked, “Who are you guys talking about?” He’d say, “Some eavesdropper.”
Anon Name for Post* June 19, 2014 at 11:25 am Our secretary would wait until you were out of the office (at client’s business or vacation day) and would snoop in your desk drawers and comment later on what you had in them. Whether it was client files, snacks, or pens she would bring it up exactly what was in your desk drawer. You’d be in confidential client meetings and she’d walk right in to hand you something completely unrelated to your meeting and then stand there and stare at you both or stretch her neck to try to see what was on the paperwork in front of you both. She took it upon herself to “dig up dirt” on employees that had angered her by seeing who she knew that may know them- their neighbors, possible friends, or relatives and would try to dig for some “skeleton in their closet” to use later against them.
Anon Name for Post* June 19, 2014 at 11:29 am Ooh I forgot. One of our company’s duties is preparing certain types of taxes for high net worth individuals. For a short time she knew where copies were kept and would pore over them to see info on the client’s taxes, income, investments, etc. Through an indiscretion at the company she discovered at one time what other staff made and had a screaming fit on her manager about how other secretaries made more than her. I think we could’ve had our own reality show filmed.
OriginalYup* June 19, 2014 at 11:50 am Even though I understand that the furniture is technically company property, I would be seriously outraged at someone digging through my desk drawers just to be nosy. Like, we would have to settle it at Fight Club because there would be no reasoning with me.
Trillian* June 19, 2014 at 11:53 am If I couldn’t get my hands on a key, I’d be off to the local zoo or insectarium looking for a rubber tarantula. Or snake.
Lar* June 19, 2014 at 12:43 pm I have a staff person that has been known to snoop through my desk when I am out of the office. She will also find a reason to come in to my office any time I am meeting with other staff to try to find out what we are talking about. Sometimes when I am feeling particularly evil I will take a phone call with my door shut which just sends her in to hysterics speculating who I am talking to or what is going on.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 1:06 pm I don’t know what it is about a shut door, but co-workers have the same reaction as toddlers or cats. They didn’t care about what was in the room before, but if the door is shut they assume something fascinating is going on and they must be let in. Now! It is an interesting phenomemon because people talk about closing the door to get work done, but if I did that right now without putting up my “I’m on a web conference” sign they’d be peering in and coming up with emergencies to get in and see what’s up. That’s why I only plot world domination with the door open.
Diane* June 19, 2014 at 2:09 pm I put up signs to indicate I’m on a conference call or webinar. My boss walks in talking.
Mallory* June 19, 2014 at 10:20 pm So true about [some] coworkers and closed doors! I closed my office door (back when I had one — le sigh) and put up a “Working on Such-and-Such Deadline” sign, and my nosiest coworker just walked right in to ask me about why I was so busy (!).
Anon Name for Post* June 19, 2014 at 1:51 pm What a great idea. I like this one. Maybe both would be effective in deterring nosy people from digging through desk drawers and files.
Xay* June 19, 2014 at 2:20 pm I actually had a supervisor who kept a rubber snake in one of his file drawers. He said it kept people honest.
Blue Anne* June 20, 2014 at 7:22 am Great idea. I think if this happened at my current workplace, I would fill my drawer with a rubber tarantula, a ridiculous brightly-colored sex toy, a few dime bags full of icing sugar, and a few envelope with things like STD TEST RESULTS and HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL PAROLE DETAILS – PLEASE CONTACT SHERIFF’S OFFICE IF FOUND stamped on them. Maybe some fake IDs with my photo and other names, if I could swing it. To make the point, and for shits and giggles. But that’s because I’m currently working in an office where everyone would find it hilarious and my manager wouldn’t believe a word of it, and because it’s that kind of office, I don’t think this would ever happen.
Lils* June 19, 2014 at 12:58 pm Just when I started to think I was a little paranoid to keep confidential paperwork in a locked drawer, I hear a story like this…
Anon Name for Post* June 19, 2014 at 1:50 pm If we could’ve locked the drawers we would’ve for sure. In my opinion it’s not paranoid to keep confidential paperwork locked up. It’s a good idea.
bullyfree* June 19, 2014 at 1:49 pm Ugg, in one of my old offices, people used my office supplies to replenish their supplies. They’d go through my desk drawers and take things off my desk also. They were too lazy to take the elevator down three floors to the office supplies stock cabinets. When I returned from vacation, I’d frequently have to restock my office supplies.
Anon for a moment* June 19, 2014 at 2:46 pm OMG, so much this. The supply cabinet was literally two feet from my desk, but people would dig in my desk for “my” pens, “my” paper clips, etc. And sure, mine were coming from the same place, but I’d stocked my desk on purpose with the right amount of what i needed, and it interrupted my workflow if that stuff was gone without my expecting it.
bullyfree* June 19, 2014 at 9:14 pm LOL, I know what you mean. I used a lot of supplies and had to work fairly fast so I made sure to be prepared. Staples and staplers were a big part of my daily grind. They were the hardest supplies for me to keep stocked. Coworkers also stopped by while I was working and *asked* for supplies…..I was too willing to oblige. (Should have sent them to the stock cabinets)
Jessa* June 20, 2014 at 7:38 am That’s awful, and it’s worse when it’s your stuff not the company supplies. It was so fun chasing stuff down and explaining that no, I don’t mind you using it at my desk, but please don’t take my personal property into another group of offices.
bullyfree* June 20, 2014 at 3:31 pm Oh, I know what you mean ! I eventually put a note that read ” Personal Property of …..please return to room ### if found” on each of the items I purchased myself (except for my favorite pens).
AdAgencyChick* June 19, 2014 at 11:26 am I used to share an office with one coworker, a graphic designer, who was just delightful — he’s not the nosy one. Keep in mind: the graphic designer was not on my team. However, the account exec on my team was a creepo. Once he came by, and my officemate wasn’t at his desk. Creepo started rummaging around my officemate’s desk. THEY WEREN’T EVEN ON THE SAME TEAM, so I can’t think of any good reason for him to have been looking for anything there. Finally I pointedly asked, “Looking for something?” and he slunk off. Wouldn’t shock me if he’d been poking around my desk when I wasn’t there, too. Freak.
AHK* June 19, 2014 at 11:26 am Upon hearing that I was pregnant, one of my coworkers asked if it was planned. He then turned to another of my coworkers (his direct report) and said that it was her turn next. (She and I both got married last year, within a few months of each other.) He has continued to ask fairly personal questions throughout my pregnancy, and I always cut off the conversation or just walk away.
HM in Atlanta* June 19, 2014 at 11:30 am I’m amazed at the things people think they can ask pregnant women. I was stunned to learn that they regularly have to put up with random people (strangers) coming up and touching them because they were pregnant, and then the strangers get bent out of shape when people yell at them.
iseeshiny* June 19, 2014 at 11:57 am This, thankfully, I have not yet had to deal with. Pretty sure it’s because I have BRF – so far the only time not looking overly friendly unless I’m actively trying has worked in my favor.
Leah* June 19, 2014 at 12:20 pm A friend of mine had a total stranger walk past and rub her belly while doing so as if she was a lucky statue. The person just kept walking and she was too stunned to do anything in the moment.
MaggietheCat* June 19, 2014 at 1:45 pm This makes me want to keep a ruler in my purse and snap it on anyone’s hand who tries that!
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 1:48 pm Miss Manners once sarcastically suggested that if women were to double over as if struck and cry out in fictional pain it would cure the toucher and all witnesses of this habit. I didn’t work outside the home during my pregnancies but I can testify that this happened all the time. Women more often than men, actually, ime. And it doesn’t stop after the birth – they just move onto the baby. I just loved having strangers reach in to stroke my babies faces with their disease ridden hands I’m sure they didn’t wash after using the bathroom.
hildi* June 19, 2014 at 4:34 pm Ok, I’m going on a tangent, but your last comment about strangers touching your baby made me think of this. When my youngest was a few days old, I was out running errands. I stopped at the post office and there was, uncharacteristically, a line (small towns rule). I made it through and had to set her car seat down on the ground while I stepped aside to put my stamps and receipt back into my wallet. There wasn’t much else going on in there so all the people in line were looking at the baby and some made a few nice comments, etc. Whatever – typical stuff when you have a newborn. No problem. Then a man who looked scruffy, unkempt, probably smelly and just not someone I’d even give a second look to walked over to us and looked at her closer. He smiled and said some nice thing about her and then reached out to touch her foot. I had the momentary panic of “don’t touch her!” but quickly reasoned it’s only her foot, she’s not putting it in her mouth yet and I can wash it when she gets home. So that flashed through my mind in an instant and I had time to focus back on this man and my heart softened: he was so tenderly and gently touching her foot. I thought maybe his eyes teared up and I know mine were because the thought hit me like a ton of bricks: babies bring out the softness in people. They make us kind and tender and I have to think that this man was either thinking back to his own children, or something that was good and kind and wonderful in his own life. It made me realize how many people don’t have that and how easy I could have been a total bitch about it and missed that moment (I may or may not have been under the influence of some pretty wicked post-partum hormones. Everything was that mellodramatic) :)
A Kate* June 19, 2014 at 2:54 pm A stranger once touched a friend’s sister’s pregnancy belly while she was in line at the grocery store. She, in turn, squeezed the woman’s breasts and responded to the shocked reaction this elicited with, “What? I thought we were touching.” I haven’t seen her in years, but she’s kind of my hero for this.
2horseygirls* July 9, 2014 at 1:40 pm SO awesome & totally appropriate! Remembering this for future use by pregnant friends (who will LOVE it!) :)
kat* June 19, 2014 at 9:59 pm Yes! I’ve had an influx of pregnant women in my life the last couple of years. I always ask if its OK to touch them and all except my cousin looked at me like I was the weirdo for asking.
Marie* June 20, 2014 at 8:41 am Oh yes. As a currently-pregnant woman, I’ve had to have so many conversations with people I barely know, who want to know if it was planned, do I know the gender, what am I hoping for, what my husband is hoping for, will I continue working, have I been nauseous, etc., etc. Much touching of the belly, too, even when I am clearly backing away from the hand. The worst, though, was my MIL, who asked me, over a family dinner with all the in-laws present, “so, do you have any stretch marks yet?”
K* June 20, 2014 at 5:04 pm That is such a weird thing to do. Haven’t these people ever learned that you never touch someone without their permission?
iseeshiny* June 19, 2014 at 11:56 am I was really surprised how many people saw fit to ask me that! And various other personal things. Like, yes, I DO have to pee all the time! Yes, I AM huge! How kind of you to notice!
Observer* June 19, 2014 at 12:47 pm Does HIS supervisor know what he’s doing? It sounds to me like absolute fodder for a harassment suite. This is beyond nosy.
PucksMuse* June 20, 2014 at 8:04 am I had a random dude come up to me at the grocery store when I was seven to eight months pregnant and WEDGE his hand between my belly and my breasts, claiming that he was “trying to feel the baby.” I grabbed his hand and forcefully shoved it away and said, “Trust me, that’s not the baby you’re feeling.”
Celeste* June 19, 2014 at 11:30 am When my first and only baby was due, one of my male coworkers had this horrible anxiety that I would go into labor at work and that he would somehow be tasked with helping out with delivery, and he didn’t know how to do that so he was worried. True, I did get a bit past the due date. So he kept coming by during the days to see how I was and did I feel “like it was happening”. Maybe you have to be 9+ months pregnant to really grasp how nosy that question is, but maybe you don’t!
Celeste* June 19, 2014 at 11:31 am Who knows, AAM, you might even be able to get a whole post about workplace pregnancy from the responses!
ClaireS* June 19, 2014 at 11:34 am You definitely don’t need to be pregnant to grasp that. That’s super weird. What a strange thing to be anxious about. Maybe if you were at some remote research station in the arctic and it was just the two of you, but in an office that’s (presumably) relatively close to medical care!?!?
Marai* June 19, 2014 at 11:46 am Haha, I actually totally get that anxiety because it’s such a common plot for a million movies and TV show episodes. Still, it’s the kind of anxiety you keep to yourself, omfg.
Elizabeth West* June 19, 2014 at 2:18 pm Yeah, really, and it’s always a first baby, and it always just pops out in 45 minutes. Though my mother did tell me that she had all three of us three weeks early and was only in labor for about three hours each. I wasn’t sure if she was exaggerating or not, so I just said, “Thanks for the warning, Mom.” o_O
Angora998* June 19, 2014 at 12:14 pm I would have been so tempted to grab my belly … and “oh, oh” real loud and grab his hand. Than after he catches his breath inform him that question was getting old.
Celeste* June 19, 2014 at 12:47 pm I know! It was so funny, as if babies just fall out if you sneeze (how I wished). Our office was 8 miles away from the hospital and my husband worked in our office on the same floor. Sooooo my cube buddy was never going to get a crack at midwifery, no matter how badly he fretted!
MaryMary* June 19, 2014 at 11:51 am One of my coworkers had a baby in May. She started her maternity leave on her due date, even though she didn’t end up delivering for another week. So many people were stopping by to ask her work friends if she’d had the baby yet that they made a sign and posted it in her cube: NO BABY YET!
Celeste* June 19, 2014 at 1:24 pm That’s brilliant. I swear people treat you like you’re a ticking time bomb, about to blow.
chewbecca* June 19, 2014 at 12:20 pm While one of my former coworkers was pregnant, up to the time she delivered, one of the other people in her department (who, shockingly enough was the office busybody) was CONVINCED that she’d be the one to drive Jane to the hospital if Jane went in to labor at work. Jane was not a fan of this woman and she would have been the last person she’d want to drive her to the hospital. Luckily she went in to labor at home, so it was a moo point.
JayDee* June 19, 2014 at 12:30 pm Proper response: “Well, at my appointment yesterday my cervix was 5cm dilated and 75% effaced, so the OB/Gyn said I could go any time.” If needed, you can add “Now that you mention it, I have been feeling a little loose in the lady bits this morning and OH GAWD IS THAT AN ARM?!? GET OVER HERE AND HELP ME!”
caraytid* June 21, 2014 at 2:17 am my son’s due date was April 3, and i had a great plan to bring a water balloon to work with me on April 1 and strategically drop it on the floor at an opportune moment, since one of my male coworkers had this same weird anxiety of me going into labor at work. joke was on me though, since my son was born on April 1 (fortunately going into labor at home).
Rin* June 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm I was worried my water would break at work, because I didn’t want to ruin my chair. But my boss had a plan to drive me to a hospital if anything happened there. I would not have asked for assistance from anyone who does my yearly evaluation…
Elizabeth West* June 19, 2014 at 2:19 pm That actually happened to someone I worked with (I wasn’t there that day). And someone else I knew had their water break in the middle of the grocery store. All over the floor like in the Coneheads movie.
danr* June 19, 2014 at 3:05 pm You weren’t asking for assistance, she was volunteering. Quite a difference.
StarHopper* June 19, 2014 at 1:21 pm At least he was delicate enough to avoid asking about the state of your cervical mucus.
Anonamama* June 19, 2014 at 3:54 pm I work for a non-profit which gives tours to potential donors. The Center Director was giving one of these when I was 8+ months along. When he got to our area, he described what we were doing, and added, “and this is Anonamama – who will be giving birth any minute…” I smiled and told the group, “I hope you brought your ponchos…” I don’t know what got into me, but at least it got a laugh.
OriginalYup* June 19, 2014 at 11:31 am Oh God yes. I had the nosiest coworker who ever nosed. And she loooooooved to gossip. She was the executive assistant for our office, and the CEO had to stop giving her certain documents to handle (which was part of her job) because she would read them, get the content wrong, and then spread the wrong content around. We had to hide the seating chart from her when we redid the floor plan because, in the prior round, she’d told people that a department was being downsized because she misread the plans. One time a different coworker congratulated me on getting a promotion—which I hadn’t—because Nosy Parker had found a confidential board memo about growth paths personnel, and concluded that anyone mentioned was getting promoted (and receiving raises). If any of the female employees looked ill or threw up, she would instantly start speculating whether that person was pregnant. She also used to bring up people’s Facebook statuses and personal lives in work meetings: “Does anyone know if Sue is in the office today?” “Well, she said on Facebook that her flight was delayed last night, so she’s probably home sick, because she gets the migraines, you know, and they’ve gotten worse since her husband got laid off.” And unfortunately she was also BFF with Steve in Accounting, who was the biggest drama llama I’ve ever seen. (Dude was like a walking opera of tragic wrongs and scurrilous rumors.) The two of them together were like Leopold and Loeb. I so don’t miss that toxicity.
ClaireS* June 19, 2014 at 11:36 am 10 points to gryffendor for drama llama reference! Also, as a woman in my late 20s whose stress reaction is an upset stomach, I’m terrified of the “you’re pregnant look.” No, dude, I’m not pregnant, my stomach is just being a little a-hole right now.
Angora998* June 19, 2014 at 12:21 pm I dealt with someone like this … at a defense contractor. I really believe that employers need to block my space and facebook on their networks. They did when I worked for the defense contractor … they also blocked Linkedin. She was on the cell a lot. We were not supposed to use our personal cells at work .. but they didn’t call her on it. I was a contractor and she was a fixture … she got by with a lot. I blocked her and the individuals that I figured out where her clique. In this type of situation . . . everyone that works with that co-worker … should just block them … totally. Than if they ask; say you are not on it. Than limit what is viewable by the public.
Leah* June 19, 2014 at 12:26 pm I have really strict privacy settings and I don’t accept friend requests from any current coworkers. LinkedIn is fine. When people I’d want to be in contact with (or interns I supervised) sends me a request I tell them in person that I like to keep my work life and Facebook seperate but they can connect to me on LinkedIn. No one has complained and eventually a few colleagues would get friended.
Anonna Miss* June 20, 2014 at 4:42 pm I do this, too, Leah. LinkedIn is for coworkers. Facebook is for people I would socialize with (or socialized with in the past) outside of work. And the occasional family member. Like you, I just tell interns that send requests that I keep work and Facebook separate. My politics are pretty evident on Facebook, and I do NOT want to get into it with coworkers.
Mallory* June 19, 2014 at 10:38 pm I don’t see how she even kept her job. Confidentiality is the largest part of executive assisting. I don’t even bring up confidential matters with my bosses (even ones that they’ve previously discussed with me) because talking about it is at their discretion, not mine. At any given time, I cop to knowing only what I’m supposed to know and no more. I actually think my bosses are more forthcoming with me because I maintain a fairly detached manner (even when I’m goggling my eyes out on the inside).
Jessa* June 20, 2014 at 7:47 am This, so much. It’s like number one on the job description. You will find out things you’re not supposed to know, and you’re not to let anyone know you know about them. You don’t ever bring up stuff that you haven’t been told about unless it’s a serious problem for the company and that only behind closed doors in a private meeting, not blabbed where just anyone can hear. Your boss has to be able to count on you keeping your mouth shut. They know you know stuff. They rely on your discretion.
Liz* June 19, 2014 at 11:32 am I had a boss who was obsessed with money. Had the nerve to tell me he could ask what my car payment was because he was paying for it. The morning my mother died, I went into the office early to drop off some files I had (at that time I was allowed to work from home) before I left town for her funeral. Just he and I at the time. He had the nerve to say to me, “oh, now you are getting an inheritance” , and was practically dancing up and down with glee. No I ‘m sorry, no travel safely. Where he got that from, and how he thought it was any of his business, is beyond me. When my niece took a position in Iraq working for a company that deals with refugee re settlements, his comment was, oh, she will be making lots of money.
Liz* June 19, 2014 at 11:50 am *he was paying my salary, which in turn I was using to make car payment. He was not paying the car payment directly. Felt like I needed to clarify that.
LittleT* June 19, 2014 at 11:33 am Wow, it’s reassuring to know I’m not the only one that has experienced overly snoopy coworkers!! I have a current person, we’ll call “Marcy”, who has taken it upon herself to monitor my daily food choices. Marcy regularly comments that I don’t eat much of the food provided in meetings (usually because they are all meat/fish/chicken sandwiches and as a vegan, this doesn’t leave much for me to eat, so I eat beforehand). She even went as far as going through my personal wastebasket at my desk to see if I had thrown out any wrappers, containers, etc. as “proof” of whatever I eat. I caught her red-handed one day and asked her, “What the hell are you doing?” She said she “wanted proof that you actually eat, so I’m checking your garbage”, as though this was a perfectly natural thing to be doing!! I told her to mind her own business and that, Thanks, but I already have a mother and don’t need another one to criticize me. Interesting point: Marcy is not a mother hen type who worries over other staff. She is 10 years younger than me, not married and no kids! I think she is just too nosy for her own good.
karowen* June 19, 2014 at 12:10 pm I have a similar issue about the food critics. I’m overweight. I am aware of this. I don’t particularly feel the need to count every single calorie I eat, but it’s my body and my choice what to do with it. So one day, I got twizzlers for a snack and when I had eaten my fill I wrapped them up tightly so that no bugs got into them. My coworker saw the packet sitting on my desk and said “You bad girl! You ate all of those?! Bad!” Then just yesterday, another friend made me a birthday cake which I shared around the office. I was going to wrap it up, so I took the plastic wrap off as she was walking by and she slapped my hand and said “no!” because she thought I was taking more cake. I’m getting more infuriated just typing this. It’s not quite nosy, but still way too interested in my food choices.
kkb* June 19, 2014 at 12:25 pm “you bad girl” and slapped your hand…. My head is spinnng. How did you not not tell her to back the eff off?? No one touches me, ever… especially not that way.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 12:28 pm Yeah – I would have been completely shocked and weirded out —and then an official conversation would have happened.
KellyK* June 20, 2014 at 9:48 am Totally agree. That is absolutely uncalled for and should not be tolerated.
Angora998* June 19, 2014 at 12:32 pm I’m sorry, but “slapping” another’s hand at work is uncalled for. I would take this to your boss …. this is way past the bounds. Since this is a co-worker; and not a supervisor I would be tempted to send her an e-mail and cc: your boss and your HR rep … so everyone is in the loop. Inform that individual that her comments regarding your food is paternizing. That talking to you like you are five years old is not appreciated. That you had chosen to ignore her improper comments, but slapping your hand and telling you “no” was so far out of the bounds you felt that it was necessary to to address this via e-mail. That you formerly asking her to withdraw any comments regarding your food, diet and weight from any future conversations with you. This burns me up for you.
BRR* June 19, 2014 at 12:33 pm This is more than just being nosy (well a lot of these are more than just being nosy). These comments aren’t ok at all and the slap on the hand is even worse.
Celeste* June 19, 2014 at 12:53 pm “If you want to monitor what goes in, then be prepared to follow me to the ladies’ room and monitor what comes out.”
LittleT* June 19, 2014 at 12:59 pm Karowen: I’m sorry to hear that you’ve had to deal with such inappropriate & completely rude behaviour. That is way out of line and to top it off with someone slapping your hand?? Hell no, and I would’ve mentioned this one to your/her boss. Nobody should be commenting on or offering unsolicited suggestions re another person’s food choices. If I want to eat a bag of M&M’s for my lunch, hey, that’s my decision! Alternatively, if I choose not to eat lunch at all, again, I’m a grown adult & can make that choice. Don’t patronize me (or anyone else) as though we’re unable to feed ourselves or get through life without your “helpful” advice.
Tina* June 19, 2014 at 4:53 pm SO. NOT. OK. If a coworker (or a friend for that matter) slapped my hand and said “no” to me in that situation I would have lost it. I’m angry for you!
Malissa* June 19, 2014 at 6:28 pm Yeah, I’d need bail money if a coworker slapped my hand and said that.
Jessa* June 20, 2014 at 7:49 am I’d be glad to bail you out, if you bailed me out in turn. Hit me and I’m likely to reflexively hit back.
Coffee Lover* June 19, 2014 at 12:14 pm My coworker is vegan; I’m trying to lose weight. If I go to a meeting before her, I let her know that there weren’t any vegan options so she can plan ahead. She does the same with me. Your coworker is weird.
Headachey* June 19, 2014 at 12:22 pm I used the “I already have a mother” line on a nosy coworker, too! If two or more people were having a conversation anywhere remotely within earshot, she would get up from her desk, come over, and try to insert herself in the conversation. One day a manager was speaking with the office manager, who’d just returned from maternity leave. He noticed Nosy listening in and whispered to the office manager that his wife was pregnant. Two minutes after he got back to his office, Nosy rushed in to congratulate him. He just played dumb and said “No, we’re not expecting. Where’d you get that idea?”
AT* June 19, 2014 at 11:33 am While I was pregnant, I had a coworker ask me what I would do if my baby came out “differently-abled” or deformed. I sat there, too flabbergasted to answer. Another pregnant coworker answered her with “leave it on the top of a mountain and hope it doesn’t cause the downfall of an empire, probably.”
AT* June 19, 2014 at 1:39 pm No kidding! We became friends after that and banded together to answer all other inappropriate pregnancy questions and inquiries.
NylaW* June 19, 2014 at 11:35 am My father has several very nosy, gossipy coworkers, but one in particular recently did something I could not even believe. A few weeks ago my dad was working and thought he was having a heart attack. He was taken to the ER, spent the night in the hospital, had some tests, and was determined to be fine. It was not actually a heart attack. Of course everyone in his department something had happened because it occurred at work. This one coworker, we’ll call her Ellen, was telling everyone that she talked to my father and that he had a massive heart attack. She said he told her it was worse than he was letting on to everyone, and that he especially didn’t want to tell my mom the truth because his brother died of a heart attack very suddenly 2 years ago, and he didn’t want all of us to worry so he was keeping his true condition a secret. Side note: My dad did call and talk to her, the morning after he was in the hospital, to say he wouldn’t be in the rest of the week. She does the scheduling for the department so she needs to know these things, but he did not tell her anything like what she was saying. He told her the truth, that it was no big deal, but because of the testing procedures he had to have the rest of the week off. When my dad got back to work, he told everyone the very mundane story, and wondered why they were all so shocked he was back at work and fine. A few days later someone finally told him what Ellen had said and he hit the roof. He talked to his boss but so far Ellen is still gossiping away!
Angora* June 19, 2014 at 6:55 pm Your Ellen needs to overhear a conversation that management is discussing cutting back her hours ….. that she is spending so much time gossiping that apparently doesn’t have enough to do.
Angora* June 19, 2014 at 8:37 pm … you can forget the gossiping thing … just have her overhear a conversation about cut backs & that they may making her part-time … than she may start job searching If she’s good at the job except for the gossiping /// just call her on it
HM in Atlanta* June 19, 2014 at 11:36 am At a former employer, it was a big warehouse space. To create offices, they built them with drop ceilings (which left a huge gap between the drop ceiling and the warehouse ceiling). The HR and CFO offices were next to the R&D lab. One of the chemists decided to climb through the ceiling, and searched the HR and CFO offices after work one night. He gathered materials from both offices, and then took them to his boss to ask for a raise. When asked where he got the materials, he told his boss what he did. The best part – they didn’t fire him and several other people left the company over it in the next month (they were hot-shot R&D scientists that were snapped up in a minute).
Tina* June 19, 2014 at 4:55 pm I think that’s one of the worst stories so far! and I thought the woman searching paychecks in the staff mail room was bad.
Angora* June 19, 2014 at 6:58 pm I have heard of graduate students climbing over walls etc.. but it was to play pranks on their professors and co-workers. Or use office equipment in another’s space that they didn’t have access to after hours. They got in trouble for it, threatened to be kicked out of the program if they did it again.. He so should have been fired. Or suspended without pay for a couple of weeks.
Episkey* June 19, 2014 at 11:37 am Not such an unusual story, but I worked in a relatively small office previously and one of my co-workers had to know everything that was going on in the office and would basically throw a tantrum if something happened that she wasn’t involved in. She had her own office, but would routinely listen in on any phone calls I had to make/answer. Afterwards, she would come out of her office and interrogate me on who I was on the phone with, what did they want, etc. She was not my manager nor even worked on the same program as I did. I tried speaking very quietly whenever I had to talk on the phone, but it didn’t really help. I remember one time my own manager planned an event on a topic that had a bit to do with her regular job and involved me in the event. When this co-worker found out about this and that my manager didn’t include her, she had a fit, yelled at me (never mind that I had no decision making power on this event), and stormed off. It didn’t really bother me because I knew it just drove her crazy to not have a hand in everything, but it still amazes me what kind of behavior people can get away with in a professional capacity.
Angora* June 19, 2014 at 7:30 pm Do you have the freedom to have a radio and/or white noise machine that you can place near the door and/or wall (if you have a shared wall)? That might help … another thing you can do and I have seen co-workers do this. Tell them you think their phone is ringing and they may run back to their office. Have someone else all her office extension when she heads into your office (they pay want to block their phone number). They may be able to do this only a few times; but it might help. We had co-workers that would do that for some office busy buddies … they would run back to their offices quite fast. Another thing is; I have to get this done and turn your back to them; hence cutting them off with your body language.
Bea W* June 19, 2014 at 11:40 am At first I read this as “noisiest”, and perked up because oh boy do I have some stories about that. Thankfully, my co-workers have not been nosy. Although I did have one co-worker who, knowing I have rabbits as pets and volunteer for a shelter, horrified everyone when she asked me Co-worker: Have you ever eaten rabbit? (Other co-workers in the room gasp and jump on her before I can even answer) Co-worker, now confused why all the fuss: What?! It’s less gamey than squirrel. She wasn’t trying to be rude, and the follow-up comment was totally serious. She wasn’t from around here. I always feel kind of bad when I tell that story, because I don’t mean to make fun of her (she was actually well educated and intelligent), but I just found it so freakin’ hilarious that the next thing that came out of her mouth came across as even more outrageous than her original question.
Biff* June 19, 2014 at 12:23 pm Oh man…. had a similar conversation once. Somehow it didn’t compute that I could keep a bunny as a pet AND think Rabbit was pretty good. I wanted to ask if they knew that beef came from cute widdle cows….
Rebecca* June 19, 2014 at 12:29 pm I guess this depends on the area. I like rabbit, and squirrel too – and have eaten and will eat both if the opportunity arises. For me, as a country girl, it would be perfectly natural to ask if someone raised rabbits if they ate them, as people where I live raise all sorts of animals for food.
Bea W* June 19, 2014 at 7:43 pm This was a major city in the north east US. Not one person in the room expected that. I don’t think anyone even thought squirrel was a food source anywhere. Rabbit isn’t common eating up here, but people at least know other people eat rabbit. Squirrel was just completely out of left field for this group.
Chinook* June 19, 2014 at 1:33 pm “I always feel kind of bad when I tell that story, because I don’t mean to make fun of her (she was actually well educated and intelligent), but I just found it so freakin’ hilarious that the next thing that came out of her mouth came across as even more outrageous than her original question.” While I admit that she was culturally insensitive to the area (meaning she didn’t understand the culture, not that she was rude), but my repsonse to that question would have been an honest “fresh or canned?” The reality is that, in some places, even within my province, rabbits are pets, in other areas they are pests and considered a good source of meat.
samaD* June 19, 2014 at 4:56 pm they’re both here too. I haven’t seen rabbit in the grocery store recently, but would definitely expect to see it at a farmer’s market
Bea W* June 19, 2014 at 7:57 pm It’s not too hard to find in large grocery stores in this area, but that’s due to the demand created by cultural diversity. Americans up here generally aren’t interested in it or consider eating rabbit to be like eating cat or dog. I’ve never seen it at a farmer’s market, even though I know some of the vendors do raise rabbits for meat.
KellyK* June 20, 2014 at 9:54 am Definitely both here. I know people who have pet bunnies as well as people who raise them for food. (I personally don’t have any qualms about eating rabbit—or squirrel for that matter.)
Bea W* June 19, 2014 at 8:40 pm I never even had a chance to respond on account our co-workers immediately jumped on her for it, but even in cases where people ask this question, it’s totally off my radar to even joke about it on account I’ve been in rescue for nearly 2 decades and that experience just makes those kinds of jokes instantly not funny. We’ve done a number of large intakes of meat rabbits confiscated by law enforcement from just the most nasty conditions imaginable. My head just can’t even go there. I’m actually used to being asked if I’ve ever eaten rabbit, because for some reason it seems logical to people who think of rabbits as food to think that since I have them, I might have also tried it . I hate having that conversation, but most people aren’t intentionally being rude or hurtful, and when you can just keep cool and talk honestly everyone learns from it.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 11:42 am I have three which left me feeling various degrees of outrage and violation: (none of the below were given any opening by me to think this would be okay) 1. Said his wife was having issues related to her periods and heavy bleeding and proceeded to ask me about mine to see if her complaints were legit or if it was normal. 2. I have an issue with startling very easily and it’s something I prefer people ignore as I’m self conscious about it. (I don’t yell or fall out of my chair – except in extreme cases) just a silent jump. One guy I worked with was convinced the only cause had to be PTSD (he fancied himself a amateur psychologist – his words) and told me with 100% certainty that I was clearly sexually abused or assaulted at some point because that’s the only explanation. He was dying to help me recall whatever repressed memories I had to get to the trauma. Needless to say he got a cease and desist quickly – but every time I jumped you could tell he was dying to find out. Very creepy and salacious – like he was excited at the thought of whatever horrible thing he assumed happened to me, but hadn’t. 3. A celebrity died of the same thing that killed my dad and they were talking about it and I corrected them on some detail – I don’t know, just in passing. Then someone came to me later and talked about how extremely painful they assume it to have been and asked me details about my dad and if he was in agony as he died and did blood pour out from his orifices at the end. Never have I given a blanker stare. Some people need to start each day with a heaping bowl of STFU.
NylaW* June 19, 2014 at 11:46 am I am impressed with your restraint and ability not to punch each of these people in the face.
Rebecca* June 19, 2014 at 12:30 pm Me too – good grief some people don’t know what the word “boundary” means.
Abradee* June 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm #1: Oh, ick. #2: I suffer from the exact same issue and can guarantee you I have never been abused or assaulted. What a weirdo! Watch Dr. Phil to get your psychobabble fix and leave me the hell out of it!
A Kate* June 19, 2014 at 3:05 pm I feel bad for 1’s wife. What, did he think she was just being dramatic? How disrespectful.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 4:51 pm He absolutely thought she was being dramatic. What was the plan? Collect data and go home and say – btw you’re not getting any sympathy from me because my co-worker said… Because I’d appreciate any anecdata my husband got from sharing my menstrual problems with people at work. Oh and #1 and #2 – same guy. Oddly enough when I misread the title and thought it was noisiest coworker he’d have been at the top of the list for that, too.
Tomato Frog* June 19, 2014 at 5:21 pm I wonder what happened in his past to make him this way. You should investigate.
KellyK* June 20, 2014 at 10:01 am Yeah, I do too. I’m not sure which is worse: the fact that he didn’t respect her enough to take her issues seriously or the fact that he shared very private information with his coworkers. Personally, I wish I could have been in Jamie’s shoes so I could tell him that I had a family member with such severe fibroids that she almost bled to death (literally—-there was an ERF visit and blood transfusions) because doctors brushed her off, and no, really, this stuff should be taken seriously. (Though that’s my well-thought-out response with time to think about it. In the moment, I’d be much more likely to turn bright red and go, “Wait, what…who *asks* that?” It’s so weird because I know so many guys who will freak out at the very mention that women have periods, or who would rather handle a dirty diaper than a sealed package of pads.
Kay* June 19, 2014 at 4:34 pm Wow. I feel sorry for the woman married to the guy in #1. Is it legit or normal? That’s a question for a doctor… not your female coworkers!
Ruffingit* June 19, 2014 at 6:27 pm It’s pretty sad when you can say that the least offensive guy was the one asking detailed questions about your period. This is horrible Jamie and I am sorry you had to deal with any of this jerks.
Bea W* June 19, 2014 at 8:46 pm #2 Creeps me out. He could have totally been wanting to help you because he’s a creeper and secretly gets off on that kind of thing. I’ve met people like that who creep around hoping to get of vicariously through other people’s sexual trauma. *puke* #3 WTF?!!!!
mel* June 19, 2014 at 11:42 am Maybe I’m just oversensitive because I don’t like to be interrupted, but the unending pointless questions from certain coworker are unbearable! “What ingredients are in that? Can I make that? Huh? Is ______ working today? Why not? Well, WHERE IS HE right now? Huh? Huh? Huh? Move over, I’ll do your job WHY NOT? HUH? You working tomorrow? Why not? Where are you going? Why? I’ve been eating toast for 30 minutes instead of working, don’t you want to eat toast too? Huh?” And then I fantasize burning the whole thing to the ground.
Nelle* June 19, 2014 at 11:47 am I once had a manager who was nosy about EVERYTHING and would ask very inappropriate questions. In particular she would ask our entire team who they thought was cute or who they had a crush on, among our other coworkers. She mentioned one coworker who was a friend of mine (we had been friends before working at the same company and saw each other socially)… that was pretty awkward. Later, she started snooping around and asking one of our other team members (a friend of mine) if I had a crush on Male Coworker X, because she had seen me dressing differently and “deduced” that this was the reason. Of course, it got back to me and I had no recourse but to write it off.
CoffeeLover* June 19, 2014 at 12:06 pm I keep expecting people to grow up, but I’m starting to realize some are perpetually stuck in junior high school. I haven’t had a “crush” in a decade and I’m in my twenties.
Ruffingit* June 19, 2014 at 6:30 pm This. There really are some people who just never progress beyond 7th grade.
Mallory* June 19, 2014 at 10:54 pm I adore having crushes, and I can’t recall ever not having one (either celebrity or real-life), but I keep it to myself and nobody ever knows.
Mallory* June 19, 2014 at 10:55 pm I should have added “having crushes” to my list of non-impressive hobbies a few threads back. That and reading. Yeah.
Allison (not AAM!)* June 19, 2014 at 11:50 am In my case, it wasn’t so much “in your face nosy”. A non-management co-worker at my previous employer happened to be best friends with the big boss (VP of our division). Somehow co-worker was privy to a lot of information that I had only disclosed to my boss – she actually came out and asked me about a couple of situations! This is not information that I would have ever shared with her, and had seen evidence of the VP sharing info about other employees (even with me!) that should never have gone anywhere. As soon as I realized, I avoided confiding in the VP every chance that I could. As time passed, VP ended up getting fired (largely due to her protecting and covering up egregious, expensive errors of said co-worker) and then that office was shut down. I no longer have to ever worry about either one of them, TG. :-)
The Nosy Drive Me Crazy* June 19, 2014 at 11:51 am As someone who handles/is exposed to a fair amount of confidential information, I’m always amazed at how others with similar roles can be so gossipy/nosy. That said, I also get a fair amount of off-hand comments from the nosy people in my office about what I may or may not know, which is so irritating. Sorry, not taking the bait. If you need to know, you’ll know when you need to know it. I also have a couple of co-workers who thought I was pregnant because my husband sent me flowers for no reason (why is it so hard for people to believe that?) and I had a doctor’s appointment around the same time. Again, sorry to disappoint but no. Our organization is child-focused so having kids if you’re married tends to be a given and is readily discussed. So I get a lot of “you’re next!” and “when is it gonna be you?” In the meantime my husband and I are still trying to decide if we want kids or not, which given the culture is something I do not want to discuss at work, even with my closer colleagues.
Alex* June 19, 2014 at 11:52 am A woman who used to work at my company was notorious for being a terrible manager – one time, she actually followed an employee home when the employee left because she was feeling ill. The manager tried to be incognito about following her, but she was discovered sitting in her car outside of the employee’s house. Yikes.
Liz* June 20, 2014 at 1:42 am Wow. I was going to offer a comment about my old manager, who interrogated us about any sick days we took, and even phoned a colleague’s doctor to ask if he had really broken his arm. (The clinic’s receptionist declined to share information, then contacted my coworker to warn him he might have a stalker.) But no, that manager takes the cake.
Vicki* June 24, 2014 at 12:07 am “Hello, Police? I think someone followed me home. Yes… it’s a blue sedan. It’s sitting in front of my house. There’s a person in the car. Can you send someone around to check?”
MYOB* June 19, 2014 at 11:56 am The boss is the nosiest person ever. In interviews, she asks about religion, marital status, and desire to have children. She seems to have zero boundaries and will ask employees about their weight, health, relationships, and reproductive plans. She gets into the internal evaluation results to try to figure out who said what. On occasion, she’ll even gossip and share confidential information about other co-worker’s health and job performance. She’s one of those people who view information as power and she gets a great sense of satisfaction by knowing what’s going on with everyone. I think she gets away with it because she’s been here forever, it’s a small company, and there’s a very familial culture. New employees either learn to put up with it or leave quickly.
Biff* June 19, 2014 at 12:28 pm WHOA. WHOA! That IS illegal in most scenarios. You really cannot ask about religion and the desire to have children in interviews.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 12:31 pm The sticky thing is you can ask – it’s not illegal to ask…it’s illegal to factor it into the hiring decision. However, once you ask you have a harder time proving it wasn’t a factor in the decision. Which is why it’s wise to stay miles away from those kinds of questions. Don’t get me wrong – MYOBs boss shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near hiring…or people..because that’s awful. But people do conflate the questions with the actions and assume both are illegal and they aren’t. I think the only thing you can’t ask is about disability – I could be wrong on that – but I think that one is the only one it’s actually illegal to ask.
Befuddled Squirrel* June 19, 2014 at 8:56 pm I once interviewed with a long-time friend of my parents and grandparents to work at his small business. He spent most of the interview asking if I still attended church regularly and what role religion played in my life. I assume he felt safe about it because of our family connections.
BRR* June 19, 2014 at 12:35 pm You should probably tell HR that she’s asking these questions in interviews. As Jamie said its’ not illegal, but it’s such a lawsuit waiting to happen.
ACA* June 19, 2014 at 1:12 pm There is almost no way I’d accept an offer from anywhere that asked me questions like that in an interview. That’s appalling.
Alice* June 19, 2014 at 2:05 pm Regarding the religion question during an interview. I wonder if there would be a way to sidestep it. Like respond with a question: ‘Oh, is there something on the weekends for the job I would need to plan for?’ I guess that wouldn’t necessarily dissuade the over-eager boundary-over-steppers, but maybe?
Not So NewReader* June 19, 2014 at 3:34 pm There was someone like this that I worked with. I wondered if it was just about power. Oddly, I felt that this person did not have much understanding of how life and relationships worked and this was the plan to learn about that stuff. (Person grew up very disfunctionally.) I started leaning toward this theory because this person shared way too much personal info. I could see where the person had not been exposed to many aspects of life. Whatever the case, it became apparent to me the behaviors would never, ever change.
littlemoose* June 19, 2014 at 11:56 am In high school I worked at the same retail job for a while. A male coworker, who was a couple of years older than me and with whom I had never socialized or even conversed with beyond cursory work stuff, came up to me one day out of the blue and asked if my breasts were real. I think I said something like “Yes but that’s none of your business,” I can’t remember exactly what. I was too shocked to reply with anything snarky.
AGirlCalledFriday* June 19, 2014 at 1:25 pm OMG this has happened to me too! I’ve also had a request for a threesome with a male coworker and his girlfriend. Disgusting! I’m going to say this because it’s happened to me several times at work – I know I’m large chested, and I do NOT want to talk about it with you. Like ever. For any reason. Why do people think it’s ok?
Bend & Snap* June 19, 2014 at 11:57 am I had a frenemy coworker who would ask questions in a very innocuous way to get information. She would then use the information to her advantage (and to my detriment). That happened twice before I stopped talking to her completely–she convinced me the first time was an accident. When I called her on it the second time, she shrugged and said, “I do whatever I can to get ahead.”
Celeste* June 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm I have actually heard someone say, “I’m cutthroat.” And it just makes you say, Wow.
AndersonDarling* June 19, 2014 at 11:57 am I’m not sure it counts a nosy, but I had a coworker at an old job who couldn’t stand that I left papers out on my desk. I can be messy, but I’m by no means filthy. I was going on vacation and cleaned up all my files and wiped my desk down. When I came back from vacation, she had cleaned my desk. Like, CLEANED it. She reorganized the desk set, got new inbox/outbox, put my nick-nacks away, took stuff off my walls… it was crazy! My other co-workers stopped by the next week and apologized because they knew she was doing it, but couldn’t get her to stop. It didn’t bother me too much because the gal was nutters and this was just par for the course.
Steve G* June 19, 2014 at 5:12 pm We have an overzealous cleaning lady that dabbled in these items, which is ironic, because she doesn’t recycle (I carry my plastics home). Once she took the coins off the corner of my desk while “cleaning” and get them to me. I was like, where the heck am I supposed to put my stuff if I can’t put it on my own desk? She also threw out clean, nice dept store plastic bags I had hidden (not well enough!) to carry random stuff home from work in, like sneakers or my recyclables!.
AnonymousOne* June 19, 2014 at 11:57 am A few years ago, I was leaving work at the same time as one of my coworkers (someone I never really interact with), and I noticed that he and I were driving home in the same direction – apparently we lived in the same neighborhood but in different subdivisions. The next day, he told me that he noticed that we live nearby each other, and asked me what subdivision I’m in. I told him, and then he asked me what my exact address was. I thought it was kind of strange, so I jokingly called him “creepy,” laughed, and tried to ignore the question. A couple hours later, I come back to my desk and find a printout of a Google Street View picture of my house, and he had written “found you!” on the bottom. Apparently he Street Viewed his way through my entire subdivision until finding my house, by recognizing my car in the driveway. He skyrocketed to #1 on my “people to avoid” list.
Del* June 19, 2014 at 12:33 pm That’s terrifying, lordy. If it wouldn’t be provocation, I’d be tempted to leave a printout of a Fatal Attraction poster and tag that with a “found you!”
ThursdaysGeek* June 19, 2014 at 5:53 pm Wait, so it is creepy to google-stalk a co-worker? I wouldn’t tell a co-worker when my birthday was, so he found it online. I have a fairly common name, and I was impressed. Turns out it is easy to get names, addresses, and birth dates of people living in our state. At least for people who vote and own property.
Angora* June 19, 2014 at 9:33 pm I have dealt with some weirdo’s over the years. But I agree with the other responders … this is right up there on the creepy scale. Sometimes I believe people think they are being cute, smart or have such a desire to up one everyone. But this is so odd. I will never ask someone if they live near my neighborhood again. I have seen one of the faculty members (different dept, same bldg.) on my street a great deal for a couple of weeks. I asked him if he lived near my street and he about tore my head off. Found out later on that he lived near campus and not in my neighborhood. I suspect he had a girlfriend on the side. But I have learned that my polite conversation and curiosity overstepped into being nosy with him.
MaryMary* June 19, 2014 at 11:59 am We have the Calendar Police in my office. A couple women routinely see who is in the office on a given day, check their Outlook calendar to see if they have an external meeting, and then check our (shared, public) PTO calendar to see if someone took a PTO day. If there’s nothing on someone’s calendar and no PTO, they complain to a manager about it. Unfortunately, instead of telling those individuals to mind their own business, the managers then “investigate,” (even when it doesn’t concern their direct reports) which leads to awkward conversations about unexpected illnesses, emergencies, personal appointment, meetings that didn’t make it to Outlook, and the occasional undocumented PTO day.
Celeste* June 19, 2014 at 12:59 pm OMG we’ve had that, and it makes me INSANE that these little pot-stirrers put down their work to go on witch hunts…and nobody ever tells them to knock it off! Talk about demotivators.
bullyfree* June 20, 2014 at 9:15 pm I’ve worked with a couple of calendar hounds too. One wanted to know where I was going and why, and she really got her feathers ruffled if I went to an appointment that she didn’t know about. She was just a peer and complained to my supervisor everytime I left the building and the office calendar didn’t list anything for me. Eventually, the office calendar was brought up in a meeting and we were told we all were required to list when we would be out of the office. Everyone obliged – except nosy coworker. Apparently, she was above all that.
No Name This Time* June 19, 2014 at 12:00 pm This was many years ago – I was a single guy in my early 30’s in Atlanta working in a department where everyone was older than me and married. Ever since I started working there I had to deal with the “when are you getting married” stuff. Most of the time I was able to play it off with the “yeah I want to be as miserable as you are” remarks that may have hit home for some of them enough to make them back down for a few days or weeks. During a company buyout, we had a bunch of internal auditors from the new parent company in working with us for several weeks. The auditor I was paired up with was a very cute and sweet girl around my same age. We actually hit it off really well and had a good time working with each other, lots of common interests and the same sense of humor, etc. Boy oh boy did the matchmaking ever shift into high gear. Daily I had to hear advice about how to ask her out how to transition our good working relationship into a personal one, even what cute babies we could have. And they were pushing and intervening from both sides, doing the same to her they were doing to me. I kept trying to tell everyone I wasn’t interested in dating someone I worked with and that I was NOT going to get involved with her. Just about the time that her assignment was up, they started pushing even harder, and I tried to maintain the stance that I wasn’t interested in getting involved with a co-worker; but since she was soon leaving that wasn’t satisfying them any more. They just kept wanting to know WHY I wasn’t interested and what made me think I could do better than her, and what exactly was I looking for that she didn’t have? It all came to a head when two married to each other co-workers were literally on either side of me at a work station telling me it was my last chance and for me to tell them ONE thing that was wrong with her. And then it happened – I outed myself long before I was ready to be out at work and said “I just don’t think her d!€k is big enough for a size queen like me.” Even in the late 90’s in Atlanta, co-workers weren’t really ready for gay matchmaking, so I really didn’t have to deal with that issue again. :-)
CollegeAdmin* June 19, 2014 at 2:27 pm I’m sorry you had to out yourself earlier than you wanted to, but my god, what a way to do it. Spectacular answer!
HM in Atlanta* June 19, 2014 at 2:33 pm The late 90s, you should have joined my office, but the gay matchmaking would have started.
AMT* June 19, 2014 at 3:34 pm I will now pray to the Great Teapot God that this makes it into the article.
Anonylicious* June 19, 2014 at 4:28 pm Well, if you had to come out before you planned, at least you did it with style. Bravo, sir.
No Name This Time* June 19, 2014 at 5:01 pm Thanks for everyone’s kind support. After reading about all the other nosy co-workers, I’m not sure this qualifies for this nosiest. Yeah, they were nosy and pushing for too much information on my private life, but thankfully none of them followed me to a cabin in the woods, or googled my house looking for an image of my car in the driveway, or looked through my desk, car or mailboxes, or some of the other crazy things. Holy Cow!!
Mallory* June 19, 2014 at 11:07 pm Certainly the best response to nosiness so far! Can we have a prize for Best Response?
Chris* June 19, 2014 at 5:16 pm Isn’t this annoying? Like, they never want to hook you up with a Tim Teebow look-alike, it’s always a girl!
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 12:00 pm Some more garden variety nosiness which always pisses me off: Every place in which I’ve worked has at least one person who self-appoints themselves time monitor and vacation police. Every time someone takes a day, or leaves early, or whatever grumbles and tries to find out if they had the time on the books, were they docked PTO and everything is “unfair.” Eyes on your own papers, people. Ditto one person who is dying to know what everyone makes and God forbid s/he is privy to the information and the snide comments about how so and so should work a million hours a day because they make so much…or as bad when they don’t know and just make it up and assume everyone but them is pulling in million dollar salaries and have diamond shoes and use c-notes for toilet paper. The one who has legitimate access to addresses, but uses google earth to see how nice everyone else’s house is in comparison to his. More and more common lately of people asking what you paid for your house, car, what your spouse makes, whatever. This is so common now I sometimes think I’m the outlier because I think money is private – but I don’t get mad. I don’t answer, but I don’t get mad. Unsolicited comments on weight loss. If I’ve never spoken to you one time about weight or diets or anything related* then I’m not interested on knowing that you noticed my body in any way – good or bad – and I certainly couldn’t give a rats ass about your approval. I know most people mean well and I’m the outlier on this – but stfu – I’m not flattered – I’m uncomfortable and annoyed…and I kind of hate you for the duration of the conversation. if you’re a co-worker that’s a totally safe bet, because I don’t talk about eating at work
Me Too* June 19, 2014 at 12:30 pm I SO can appreciate this. I tend to be a private person to and share my workspace with someone who is not. Constant chatter about all of your examples above and despite my increasingly snarky answers I see no end to it.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 1:10 pm Too obvious. I’m planning subtle but far more sinister revenge. Once I become the reigning overload they will all be on the “no-cupcake” list. The world will not be a happy place for those who have wronged me – once I take up my rightful mantle of ‘benevolent for the most part but Machiavellian when I need to be’ despot. Fwiw people who chew too loudly or smack their teeth – also on the no cupcake list. And bad drivers.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 2:09 pm I’m embarrassed to ask this – but there are references on here to Skull Island a lot. What is it? The only Skull Island I know is from Scooby-Doo and I don’t get the reference to an island run by Scrappy-Doo inside the body of Mr. Bean?
Elizabeth West* June 19, 2014 at 3:16 pm The only Skull Island I know is the one where King Kong lived.
EAA* June 19, 2014 at 3:47 pm Started in response to question https://www.askamanager.org/2014/02/our-time-off-is-being-rescinded-hunger-games-style.html Anonsie at 11:37am.
Anonsie* June 19, 2014 at 5:45 pm I can’t remember where the first time I said this was, but it may have been here? https://www.askamanager.org/2014/01/i-provide-my-companys-daily-cash-out-of-my-personal-funds.html Jaime, the gist is that Skull Island is the supervillain lair where bad management techniques are implemented just to make everyone as miserable as possible. I love that folks in the comments here have taken this joke and run with it, by the way. This place is awesome.
LD* June 19, 2014 at 3:56 pm I believe it’s from King Kong…the big guy was worshipped by the natives on Skull Island.
bridget* June 19, 2014 at 5:44 pm I’m not really a cupcake person, so now I have no incentive to not be very interested in your personal details or drive poorly around you.
LD* June 20, 2014 at 9:55 am Ooh. May I just say, I think you might be my hero. A benevolent dictator has always been what I wanted to be when I grew up.
FatBigot* June 20, 2014 at 6:56 am Read Jamie’s other posts, she runs their corporate IT. She can deal with offenders in a BOFH way.
Bea W* June 19, 2014 at 8:53 pm Unsolicited comments about weight…I wish people would stop asking me how I stay so small. It’s not on purpose! My standard answer is simply “Genetics!”. For some reason people find that really uninteresting and don’t want to discuss it further.
CA Anon* June 20, 2014 at 2:38 pm My sister was born with copper-red hair (both our parents have dark brown hair) and people would always come up to her when she was little and ask “where’d you get that pretty hair”? Eventually, once she could talk, my mom and aunt taught her to respond “recessive genes” with her little lisp. Both cute and freaky.
Interviewer* June 19, 2014 at 12:01 pm I used to work for a mid-size company with one IT person – we occasionally ate lunch together or chatted, but he was very arrogant and hard to take for very long. After I left the company, he would occasionally send me work gossip emails. Eventually, I figured out that some of the stuff he heard, no one would possibly share with him, and after I finally questioned him on it, he admitted he may have read an email or two on the server. He was fairly proud of knowing all the juicy stuff ahead of time. I was horrified. A few years later, he emailed me about possible job leads, and mentioned that he ran across an email about his upcoming termination – his job had become redundant due to a recent merger. Another co-worker later told me that they all knew he had been reading their emails for years, and some stuff they would purposely discuss offline because of this.
Katie the Fed* June 19, 2014 at 12:04 pm Jeez, reading all these I’m appalled at how many people will talk to women about their reproduction (not men, of course). PSA: STFU about other people’s family planning, reproductive health, everything. If it involves internal organs, do not ask. Just don’t.
BRR* June 19, 2014 at 12:44 pm I thought this would be fun but I just want to reply to every one, “mind your own business.” I’m surprised so many are about reproduction too. It seems like every person has someone in their office who goes through the same things: when are you getting married, when are you having kids, why are you waiting to have kids is something wrong with you, when are you having more kids.
NylaW* June 19, 2014 at 2:19 pm THIS. It’s so sexist because no one would EVER ask a man those questions. Ugh.
Bee* June 19, 2014 at 3:14 pm Oddly enough, at my fiance’s place of work, he has a slightly older (late 20’s), married, and childless male co-worker, and his other male co-workers (most of whom are older and married with kids) seem to be CONSTANTLY badgering him about children. Are you going to have any, have you talked to your wife about it, did you consider the school district when you moved, on and on. Fiance makes it sound like the subject comes up once a week, and as a result, he has not told a single person at his place of work that he’s just gotten engaged, because he doesn’t want to deal with the questions. So I guess men do get asked those questions – but perhaps only in environments that are predominantly male?
Cruciatus* June 19, 2014 at 12:05 pm Maybe I should consider myself lucky my coworker doesn’t get too personal, but he is super nosy in another way (he’d probably say inquisitive) about everyone’s jobs. This might seem not too bad, but there’s really no reason for him to know more than the basics and he has question after question after question. “So when you’re putting together that document what font do you use?” Why do you freaking care? You will never see them. We’re talking minute details. Yesterday he asked about my experiences with IT and how they can just access our computers at any time and did I know that? (duh.) They logged into his computer for something and it freaked him out. Then it was about how he doesn’t think that’s good for them to have this power. And “What about older people? They might not know IT can do this. They shouldn’t be allowed to.” Uhh, really? I guess that IT example was less about being nosy than it was just annoying to talk about. I think he thinks he’s “making conversation” but what he does is drive people crazy. When we see him at someone’s desk we find ways to save that person (a phone call that must be answered immediately!, another coworker who has a question they need to know right then!) But then he tries to see who is calling and then ask about that! I always hate when I see him do this “hover step” around my desk because I know he’s planning to stop and inquisition me about something, and you never have any idea what it us until he starts talking.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 12:14 pm Then it was about how he doesn’t think that’s good for them to have this power. And “What about older people? They might not know IT can do this. They shouldn’t be allowed to.” Literally laughing out loud at this one. Because he’s right – he’d totally on to us. The only reason we go into IT is for the power to scare the old people. Those of you who care about the elderly might want to be on your guard because we’re coming for ’em and it’s okay that I tell you this because there isn’t a darn thing you can do to stop us. Well, our plan to terrorize old people and our insatiable curiosity which compels us to read all of your email. We don’t have lives of our own, or friends, so we live for the moments when we can catch a fleeting glimpse of yours…because I need to read that email thread between you and your husband about who is taking little Jimmy to the orthodontist – or the emails back and forth where you and Jane from finance figure out where to go for lunch. :)
AMT* June 19, 2014 at 4:02 pm There is a comment upstream about an IT guy who did just that. I can’t imagine it’s a common practice. Jane from finance is not a terribly interesting person.
Del* June 19, 2014 at 12:47 pm They logged into his computer for something and it freaked him out. Then it was about how he doesn’t think that’s good for them to have this power. And “What about older people? They might not know IT can do this. They shouldn’t be allowed to.” Makes you wonder if he had a guilty conscience behind all that protestation, hm?
CPA Sarah* June 19, 2014 at 12:07 pm I had a boss once who would always ask me how much I paid for things. I was a near minimum wage bookkeeper, and she was the VP of finance at this place, and she was weirdly competitive and judgmental about money. For instance, we both bought houses around the same time and she straight out asked me how much we paid for our house and then told me how much hers was (twice as expensive as mine). She also asked me how big the diamond in my engagement ring was and made sure I knew hers was as big as mine, asked what brand my purse was and how much I paid for it, and asked how much I paid to have my favorite shoes resoled (and then was shocked and judgey over the fact that it was something like $20). We came from very different backgrounds, and I got the feeling that she was uncomfortable in the white collar world and needed to “prove” herself. It was just bizarre, especially considering the difference in “status” between the two of us. When does a VP need to prove herself to a bookkeeper?
SerfinUSA* June 19, 2014 at 3:20 pm Reminds me of when I was a mail clerk in an old-school brokerage/venture capital firm. In the elevator I mentioned to a close coworker that I had just bought a piano (I was maybe 22 and it was a beater $400 piano). A broker listening in snarkily asked “aren’t pianos expensive?” in a tone of how does a lowly mail clerk afford such luxuries. I snottily replied “I don’t know, it depends on how much money you have”, hoping he would assume I was just fronting as a mail clerk, but secretly a trust fund baby (it was pre-crash 1987 after all).
Kaz* June 19, 2014 at 3:55 pm “Mine is less expensive than yours. Isn’t that what you really wanted to know?”
Blue Anne* June 20, 2014 at 8:37 am This kind of thing makes me so angry. My manager doesn’t ask me about any of it, but I know how much she paid for her wedding dress, how much she’s getting for the house she’s selling, how much her vintage collector’s car cost… I hear about it when my managers are going on expensive vacations, when they’re having scuba lessons, when they’re buying sailboats. Meanwhile I’m just barely above minimum wage and they cleverly side-stepped any discussions of a raise at my last performance review.
Blue Anne* June 20, 2014 at 8:37 am (I should clarify that I know these things because she happily tells me about them, not because I’m at all interested)
StevenO* June 19, 2014 at 12:08 pm My coworker is perfectly nice but I dread seeing her or running into her in the hallways now. It doesn’t matter, she always looks me up and down, and urgently asks “What’s wrong?” as though I have some major medical problem if there’s anything remotely out of place to her. Here are examples of what I mean: (1) I had scraped my elbow over a weekend and had forgotten entirely. She was behind me, expressed horror at my red elbow, wondered aloud if it was poison ivy or something worse, advised me to go to a doctor. (2) I had red eyes at the end of one day; I had been pulling long hours, and on this day didn’t have my newest computer prescription eyeglasses, which made it worse. She pulled me aside and talked in hushed and urgent tones, inquiring whether there had been some major trauma at work that I was upset about or in my family. (3) I was walking for coffee, but was doing it somewhat awkwardly because my foot had fallen asleep. She gasped “StevenO!” and pointed at my leg and mouthed “WHAT HAPPENED?” I almost cannot take this anymore. I have become increasingly short with her, waving these things off. I’m tired of explaining things so inconsequential — she doesn’t seem to believe me, so it apparently doesn’t matter what I say anyway.
holly* June 19, 2014 at 12:49 pm just tell her you’re dying and get it over with. she sounds insufferable.
holly* June 19, 2014 at 12:50 pm and then, you know, don’t die. but that is the answer every single time. monotone.
AMT* June 19, 2014 at 4:49 pm I’m glad you clarified that he shouldn’t actually die. Seriously, though, I’d love to see a video of her reaction.
Artemesia* June 19, 2014 at 12:49 pm I have sensitive eyes and allergies can really set them off, plus as I aged dry eye became a problem (and it is oddly characterized by teary eyes — always a great look) I was shocked one day when one of my male peers asked with concern if my husband was abusing me. This was so out of left field, it left me gob smacked. (and no, my husband has never smacked my gob and if he had, I would have been out of there so fast) I sort of appreciated the concern but it was really creepy. It was so far out of the kind of relationship I have or would ever have — that the idea just shocked me.
OriginalYup* June 19, 2014 at 12:51 pm Can you modify JayDee’s pregnancy response above? For example: with the red elbow, look down and shriek, “OH MY GOD IT’S EBOLA, HELP ME, HELP ME.” (It wouldn’t resolve the situation, but it might make you feel less like a bug on a slide.)
NavyLT* June 19, 2014 at 1:20 pm Just start giving the names of some rare tropical diseases (different one every time she asks).
Mints* June 19, 2014 at 1:37 pm Yes, this plus OriginalYup: OMG I MUST HAVE FLESH EATING BACTERIA/ MALARIA/ EBOLA Actually I just realized I’ve done this to kids. When they’re overreacting about a tiny little scrape, I’ve said “What! Oh no! Your knee! Do you think we’ll have to amputate it?! Bob, hold her down! I’m going to cut it off!” By then they’re giggling, and I’m like “Okay maybe you can keep your leg but I’ll just a band aid on it, yeah?”
Elizabeth West* June 19, 2014 at 3:20 pm Tell her you have schistosomiasis. Watch her break both her legs getting back to her computer to look it up. Hilarity ensues.
NavyLT* June 19, 2014 at 6:51 pm The best will be when a coworker comes back and asks about it. (I was going to say tell her it’s a botfly, but thought that might have been a bit much.) (Seriously, don’t look up botflies if you’re squeamish.)
UK Nerd* June 20, 2014 at 9:39 am And I’d just managed to forget about that particularly disgusting episode of Bones…
ClaireS* June 19, 2014 at 1:50 pm Ah! She’s a concern troll. She hides her nosyness with concern. They are the worst.
TempAnon* June 19, 2014 at 2:57 pm I had a friend who did stuff like this. I was eating lunch with her once and suddenly she gasped and started wildly pointing at my hand, shrieking “OMG, are you OK? Do you need help? OMGWTFBBQ!” Well, I looked at my hand and it looked like it always did, so I was confused and said, “Yeah, I’m fine. What?” She kept flailing at my hand: “That! That!” I finally figured out she was pointing at a wart I’ve had on my hand for at least 20 years. I didn’t even register it when I looked, because it’s been on my hand for 20 years after all. Turns out she thought I was going into anaphylactic shock.
Seeking anonymity* June 19, 2014 at 10:21 pm We must have worked together. I suffer from IBS and my coworker would follow me to the restroom if I was on her opinion there too long to ask if I was OK. And would look for me on each restroom floor. UGH! So glad I’m not there anymore.
Who are you??* June 19, 2014 at 12:10 pm At my last company I worked with a woman who wanted to be involved in everything I did. I was planning a family vacation to a place she’d never been but she wanted to know where I was staying, where I planned to eat, what activities I had planned and then would go research them herself to “give me options”. I was working on losing weight and being more healthy and she would sit with me at lunch and ask questions about my food, my work out routine and then would proceed to tell me how things “should” be done. I have children, she did not. She would ask me questions about my kids and husband and then would, again, tell me how she would have handled things differently. It was always like this. She’d ask, I’d tell, and she’d tell me that her way was better. I’d try avoiding her but she’d seek me out. Our boss had invited a bunch of us who had been working on a huge, time-sensitive project to a special luncheon as a thank you for all of the extra work we did. This woman and I were both part of the roughly 25 people invited. During the lunch, several people (myself included) decided to order desserts to share. My co-worker sat across the table from me and when the desserts came she attempted to shame me into not eating. Only me. The others at the table, including our boss, all sat there with mouths agape. The co-worker proceeded to instruct me in what I should be eating, that my husband might not be attracted to me if I got larger, and that I would probably die of weight related diseases and leave my kids orphaned. (For the record, I’m heavy…not morbidly obese so these comments were uncalled for and off base) I could see my manager stepping in but decided to stop it myself. I told my co-worker that while I appreciated her input I was going to have to demand she stop. She laughed. I followed it up with “you know for someone who has all the answers as to how I should live my life…you’re sitting home alone with your cat, no man, no kids, and apparently there’s nothing good to eat in your cabinets. Here, have a cookie.” She never bothered me again. (Please note to all the cat lovers here: I have no issues with people who live alone with their cats. Just don’t tell me how to live my life. ;) )
Anon.* June 19, 2014 at 12:13 pm From a woman with a cat…ugh, people like this really do need to get a life. What a bully. I’m glad you could give her her comeuppance.
Anon.* June 19, 2014 at 12:19 pm Oh, and I’ve gotten the inverse too, being a single woman with a cat, and my coworker wanting to invite me out with her family, since it was obvious I was so ‘lonely.’ Yeah, unfortunately, I was “busy” and couldn’t go to any of these, I’m sure, fun-filled dinners and outings.
AMT* June 19, 2014 at 4:56 pm “Your purse seems oddly free of dusty Cheerios and I’ve never seen you peel a sticker out of your hair. Are you…lonely?”
Windchime* June 19, 2014 at 5:31 pm Ha. As another single woman with a cat, I keep being prompted to “put myself out there” and date. Oh, OK. Because sitting at home with a quiet, loving pet and doing the things I want *all the time* is such a horrible way to live!
Dmented Kitty* July 3, 2014 at 3:44 pm Why do cats have to equate to lonely, meaningless single lives? I’m married, we have a cat that we spoil rotten, and we don’t plan to have babies because we’re not parent material and we will spend significantly less on getting our cat a diploma (seriously, someone has gotten a degree for his own cat) than a kid. We don’t go around telling single people to “get a life”, much less going around asking them “when are you going to get a cat?” So please stop asking when are we having kids like it’s inevitable. I don’t mind the question of “are you planning to have kids?” vs. “when are you having kids?”. And stop there — no follow up questions of “why not?” “Because if you throw a cat up in the air, it will land on its feet. Babies — NOPE.”
Who are you??* June 19, 2014 at 3:33 pm Then maybe I should have asked her to send her Kitty into work for her. It would have been much more enjoyable than listening to her. And I’ve been told that aside from on occasional hairball, they keep their work stations clean.
ThursdaysGeek* June 19, 2014 at 6:58 pm Mine has: Where have you been? I’m hungry! Why were you late? I’m hungry! Are you going to feed me now? Why are you ignoring me? Why are you showering instead of feeding me? What do you have to do that’s so important? You do realize that it’s past time to feed me, right? Hssss! Were you touching that other cat? If you would feed me I wouldn’t give you a hard time about relationships with other cats.
CA Anon* June 20, 2014 at 2:46 pm God this sounds so familiar. Except mine also complains about our bunny. Why is he out here? Why is he trying to sniff me? Go awaaaaaaay! I hate you all. Why did you have to bring that THING home? What the HELL, he TOUCHED me! Meanwhile, the rabbit is hopping away looking pleased with himself and utterly unconcerned with how pissed the cat is.
Bea W* June 19, 2014 at 9:04 pm Rabbits want to know everything. What’s that on your plate? Why are you sitting there? What are you doing? Are you hiding cookies in your pockets? Down your shirt? What are you reading? Does it taste good? What did you get in the mail today? Let me open that for you. What’s in the box? I like to watch you poop.
CA Anon* June 20, 2014 at 2:48 pm Mine is a broken record of “is it FOOD?!?”, but he sometimes goes over to sniff the cat because the cat hates it so so much.
Abradee* June 19, 2014 at 12:13 pm I had a coworker who drove me up the wall with a myriad of annoying behaviors, nosiness being just one of them. I’m sure I have a lot of examples, but the one that sticks out in my mind didn’t happen to me but to a Fellow Coworker (FC) who shared my annoyance with Nosy Coworker’s (NC’s) antics. I just happened to witness the incident: One day NC stopped FC and said, “I noticed that sweater in your car yesterday,” referring to the top FC was currently wearing. FC later told me the sweater wasn’t in plain sight from the car window or anything, which means NC must have been actively peering into her car the day before. And NC was so proud of it too, like her powers of observation should have been applauded instead of realizing that such a comment was so downright creepy. I was appalled, as was FC, but she was brilliant in the moment. Without missing a beat, she looked NC straight in the eye and said, “yeah, I definitely needed it this morning since I didn’t go home last night.” NC was a little on the old-fashioned side, so the thought of FC being out all night doing “godknowswhat ” left NC speechless and she quickly scurried away.
BlueSunday* June 19, 2014 at 12:23 pm I have spent the last five years suffering from some pretty severe fatigue and trying to get a diagnosis. I have had loads and loads of doctors appointments as a result. After having 2 or 3 doctors appointments in a month, my boss asked if I was dying. Apparently a friend of his was recently diagnosed with a terminal illness so it was on his mind, but still it was so wildly inappropriate I didn’t know how to respond. He has moved on to another job since then and I have finally gotten a diagnosis, but I’m still blown away by it.
Celeste* June 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm When will people learn that you might not be able to make it better for someone, but with the wrong choice of words, you can always make it worse!
Seal* June 19, 2014 at 12:30 pm Years ago a department that my department supported had a horribly incompetent and just plain weird secretary. She was always coming through our area when she had no reason to, just to see what was going on. Because we recycled a lot of paper, we had a large recycle bin (think 55 gallon trash can size) just inside the door. For reasons known only to her, this woman started regularly going through our recycling. The first time we saw her, everyone assumed she had accidentally tossed something she intended to keep, which happens to everyone on occasion. But this happened just about every day. She wasn’t looking at just the top layers, either; she spend a considerable amount of time each visit digging all the way to the bottom looking for God knows what. Often times people would come into the office and the first thing they’d see was this woman’s considerable backside sticking out of the recycle bin. Needless to say, this got very annoying very quickly. So one of my coworkers put a note a few layers down in the recycle bin addressed to me that said “I caught the secretary snooping in the recycle bin again – do you think we should talk to her supervisor?” That put a stop to the dumpster diving, but then we had to contend with daily stink eye from her – a small price to pay, I think.
Interviewer* June 19, 2014 at 2:58 pm This made me laugh out loud. I would have resolved it the same way!
Mallory* June 19, 2014 at 11:27 pm Brilliant response! I’m a little jealous that not all nosy coworker problems can be so summarily handled.
GrumpyBoss* June 19, 2014 at 12:35 pm Not sure if this is “nosey”, or was someone who was just insanely jealous or had boundary issues. When I was first married, my husband and I came into an unexpected windfall from a profitable investment. We decided to buy a condo in a very exclusive neighborhood. We were young, dumb, and obsessed with status. At work one day, I mentioned I was leaving for a long lunch break because I had a showing at the new luxury building that just opened on the corner of some street and that avenue. One of my coworkers immediately said, “you can’t afford that!” I told him, “don’t worry about my finances. I’ve got it under control”. But this went on for a couple of weeks. I’d get questions about my finances that were more accusations. “How much are your parents giving you?” “Your husband must make a lot, right?” “There’s family money somewhere but why won’t you go out to lunch with all of us?” I tried everything from polite (“it’s nice that you are concerned about my situation, but really, I have it under control”) all the way to curt (“don’t worry about where my cash came from. It isn’t a topic I’m discussing with you”). It just got worse. He called a family member that was a realtor and came back to me saying that his relative even says that someone my age and income bracket can’t afford that neighborhood. I finally lost it. I said, “I’m sorry that I’ve made some decisions and have managed my finances that have resulted in me being able to make a transaction that obviously makes you jealousy. Actually, scratch that. I’m not sorry. I am in a position to do something that makes me happy and if you aren’t willing to share in that happiness with me, then that’s on you and I don’t need to be part of that conversation”. He continued to gossip about my real estate purchase for another 18 months before he quit. I can deal with it behind my back. I was happy he stopped doing it to my face.
PucksMuse* June 20, 2014 at 9:07 am I have found that the best response to this sort of thing is, “OK, then.” It’s an acknowledgement that the nosy jerk has spoken, but doesn’t indicate anything more. I, too, had an admin at my first job who seemed to think I was “too young” for everything. I was 21. I was ‘too young’ to be getting married. I was “too young” to be taking on the responsibilities at the office that I was promoted to. I was “too young” to be traveling alone for business. When my husband and I bought our first house at age 22, she just about lost her mind. It wasn’t even anything special, just a little ten-year-old two bedroom in an old suburb. But she couldn’t believe the “financial risk’ I was taking, buying a house so young. She couldn’t believe I’d found a lender who would give money to someone so young. She told me I would end up defaulting on the mortgage, losing my house, getting a divorce and end up homeless and alone. And to all this, I said, “OK, then.” I would like to say she gave up, but she didn’t stop until I left six years later. I honestly, think it was a combination of factors, one, I do look really young for my age, and two, she was older, single and stuck in a job she didn’t enjoy. I think there were a lot of sour grapes involved.
YoungProfessional* June 19, 2014 at 12:37 pm I had a manager ask me personal questions about my dating life. She’d then ask about the “hotties” on the street. She also followed me around the office as I performed my job duties (i.e., straightening up conference rooms), checked the trash cans, and came running out when she heard me opening my vitamin bottle. It got to the point where I felt like I had to ask permission to do anything.
j_e_tothe_double_n* June 19, 2014 at 12:39 pm I once worked with an older woman who insisted I would be the perfect wife for her son. After her badgering me for about a month, I agreed to go out with him. He wasn’t awful, but he never called me back after our date. The worst part is, he never told his mother that we were no longer seeing each other! She continued to ask me how things were going and eventually I had to bite the bullet and tell her that we wouldn’t be going out again. She was heartbroken and never let up on her insistence until I stopped working there.
Artemesia* June 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm I worked in an academic situation where the AA for a unit was hostile to women professors and incredibly snoopy. Her daughter entered the grad program and was doing suspiciously well on exams in spite of being rather dim. I suspected that Mom was getting advance copies of exams for her daughter and so I quietly instituted a security process where copies were made by a trusted aid while I was there and I then took them home with me so there were no copies in the office. I also password protected my computer. She got increasingly frantic, asking me if I needed to get the exams copied, (‘Oh no, I have that covered.) and I came in one day to find my office obviously ransacked but surreptitiously so. Oddly her daughter started doing much less well in my class. I passed the info on to my peers who also started securing their exams with similar results.
Celeste* June 19, 2014 at 1:08 pm Wow, crazy that she actually thought she could get her daughter a graduate degree like that.
snuck* June 19, 2014 at 9:46 pm Classic! That’s all kinds of horrid. And fits strongly with the AAM theme lately of “don’t call for your kids” etc. :) I love it… I used to work (soooo many moons ago!) in the print division of a large university and the security process for exams was really tight but we still had all sorts of crap from non-authorised staff trying to access the files etc – I can totally see this happening.
Got Boundaries ?* June 19, 2014 at 12:43 pm Years ago, a company I worked for hired a Receptionist who listened to every conversation that happened in the lobby where her desk was. She would insert herself into many of the conversations, making comments or acting as if she was some type of authority on certain subjects. Then, she spread rumors and gossip continuously, always with a twist or spin for dramatic effect. Two of her most nosy boundary crossing events however, were driving to my house while I was on vacation and looking in the windows and trying the door. (She used the confidential employee home list to find the address) I still have the video surveillance tape showing this. (She was there for several minutes) The worst though was when she “overheard” a conversation that took place in the workplace lobby where two co-workers discussed weekend plans. One, “Mandy” was heading to her vacation house in the woods, 2.5 hours away. She described to co-worker “Sally” that her vacation house was on such and such road a mile from a landmark. That weekend, a dark and stormy Saturday night, there was a knock at Mandy’s vacation house door at 9:30PM. Mandy opened the door cautiously and standing there was the Nosy Receptionist. She had driven 2.5 hours then went door to door until she found Mandy’s house. Mandy still talks about how creepy that was to this day.
Diet Coke Addict* June 19, 2014 at 12:48 pm Oh my god. I’m pretty sure that’s the plot of a horror film. Please tell me she was disciplined for these things???
Got Boundaries ?* June 19, 2014 at 2:27 pm I’m not sure if she was ever officially disciplined. She was given a “talking to” several times. She however, was never promoted so she quit. She returned a year later and harassed the person who replaced her and tried pressuring people into rehiring her. This went on for awhile and she even applied for openings that were posted but was never called in to interview. The end result was first she banned from the building then later on when she crossed the line into criminal intimidation, (I don’t want to write out what she did but it was bad) police were contacted and I believe she was trespassed from the property and/or a restraining order of some type issued.
Snork Maiden* June 19, 2014 at 5:04 pm Yikes! This serves to stress the importance of addressing this behaviour in a serious manner before it turns into, uh, restraining orders.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 12:51 pm I have to know – what did she say when Mandy opened the door? What did she want? To hang out? To determine if it was the right place? I really need more on this – this is like the beginning of a really good book!
Got Boundaries ?* June 19, 2014 at 2:31 pm The story Nosy Receptionist told Mandy was that she had a Family Reunion to attend but had no place to stay. Mandy could tell she was lying but didn’t know what to do. Mandy was freaked out and frightened but allowed her to spend the night. Nosy Receptionist left the next morning.
Got Boundaries ?* June 19, 2014 at 2:34 pm That she had a Family Reunion to attend but had no place to stay. (One-to-Two miles away, there were many local hotels with rooms available being it was somewhat of the off-season= if fact Nosy Receptionist had to drive right past many of them to get to Mandy’s house)
littlemoose* June 19, 2014 at 3:28 pm That is so disturbing. I can’t even express how creepy I find that. In my opinion that would be a fireable offense.
Dasha* June 19, 2014 at 12:44 pm My cubicle is right in front of the kitchen so I get a lot of traffic and my computer screen is pretty much open to anyone that passes by. One of my coworkers likes to sneak up behind me and start reading out-loud any instant message that I have on my screen.
Sascha* June 19, 2014 at 12:49 pm Ack! That’s what my sister did when we were teenagers. Is this coworker 14 years old???
Dasha* June 19, 2014 at 1:01 pm Right?! It’s so bizarre to me that a grown adult would be doing that, especially in the work place.
Sascha* June 19, 2014 at 12:47 pm My nosiest coworker was a guy who was very good at getting people to talk about themselves. He would start with casual questions about hobbies and such, but kept pushing more and more. I overheard some people telling him about childhood trauma, health issues, personal problems – and these were people who were normally quite private. When people would ask him similar questions, he would balk and deflect, and refuse to answer anything personal about himself. After a while, I noticed he would use the information he learned to try and “help” people, like finding doctors for them, trying to plan vacations, researching medicine, and push his “solutions” to them. If they didn’t show interest he kept pressuring them almost to the point of harassment, and was visibly frustrated when people didn’t do what he said. The only way to shut him down was to just stop talking to him, and he would leave you alone after a while. For reference, this is the same guy who came into my office and shook my chair while I was sitting in it. :) A real charmer.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 12:53 pm OMG I worked with that guy – he’s # 1 and 2 from my first post above. I never caved but others did – and right down to the chair shaking! There can’t be two of them out there?
Sascha* June 19, 2014 at 1:38 pm Ew I hope not! At first I thought this guy was just really friendly, and then I started noticing the patterns. He doesn’t work here anymore, thankfully. Not a good employee to boot!
PucksMuse* June 20, 2014 at 9:39 am Possibly three. My sister has a bit of PTSD due to sexual harassment in school. She does not like to be touched without permission and she REALLY doesn’t like people sneaking up behind her and grabbing her. A guy she worked thought it was hilarious to do this so she would jump and yell. She was young. It was her first job. She didn’t want to sound like a whiner by reporting the problem. One morning, he walked up behind her desk once and jerked her chair HARD. She just so happened to be standing up as he grabbed the chair and was startled by the sudden motion. She yelped and threw an elbow back, connecting with his head. Dropped him like a sack of concrete. He whined and complained to HR about being “assaulted” but fortunately her boss had the sense to ask, “What were you doing grabbing her chair in the first place?” Coworker was told to keep his hands to himself. Sis was told to report future problems directly to her boss.
Anonsie* June 19, 2014 at 12:48 pm So this isn’t one nosy person, it’s just a weird phenomenon where I work that I can’t explain. I sit at the desk just inside the front door of my department, and the way it’s angled means that everyone is walking up to a full view of my whole area when they come in the door. No other workspaces on the floor are like this– they’re all angled differently. The consequence of this is that people come by and talk about whatever is on my desk a lot, and the #1 thing people bring up is how insane my carb intake is to them. I tend to snack while working, but I’ve actually had to cut it back and change what I snack on to avoid people getting really weird about it. My normal snack is something carby (baked goods, popcorn, sandwich) and for some reason this is an issue. I’ll be working and eating a bagel and someone will come up behind me and get my attention so they can say something sarcastic like “Woah! Eating that whole bagel? Having a healthy breakfast, huh? Heh heh heh” or “Oh my gosh that bagel is as big as you are. Look at you. I couldn’t eat that many carbs.” If I eat absolutely anything else, no one says a word. It’s just the carbs.
AnotherAlison* June 19, 2014 at 1:36 pm I hate that. I was thinking one upside of moving departments will be that no one in the next one will be as food obsessed as they are in this one. I eat cookies and stay slim because 1.) I am genetically freaking lucky, and 2.) I work out hard and regularly. The person who comments the most on my food (although there is more than one person) also tells me how she cannot and will not ever run.
Anonsie* June 19, 2014 at 1:50 pm I cannot and will not ever run, but god help me if that ever stops me from eating biscuits.
Colette* June 19, 2014 at 4:20 pm Yeah, I’ve said that the only time I’ll run is if I’m chased by a lion – and even then, I won’t run long. I exercise regularly, but running is not my thing. (I don’t care what you eat, though. Have a cookie!)
L McD* June 19, 2014 at 1:57 pm The food-commenting is such a strange phenomenon. My mom was no master of etiquette, but even she taught me that it was shockingly rude to comment on what someone else was eating, unless the comment is “wow, that looks good” or something similar. As an adult I’ve seen people make faces, “ewww” noises, make disparaging comments, or just feel the need to point out the obvious (like “wow, that’s a lot of carbs!”) in a judgmental way like it’s any of their damn business. What goes through people’s heads??? Also focusing on carbs seems oddly dated to me, lol. Wasn’t that all the rage like 15 years ago? Surely they should be commenting about your gluten intake or something a little more trendy.
OhNo* June 19, 2014 at 5:37 pm Yeah, someone who sits near me does something similar. I get a lot of comments about the fact that I buy chips pretty frequently (I just love salty snacks). I can buy a truckload of chocolate and eat it all day with no comments, but the second I grab some chips… “Oh, you’re eating chips *again*? Do you ever eat anything else? How can you stand those things?”
JBeane* June 19, 2014 at 12:48 pm A week after I started my current job, a group of co-workers cornered me in the bathroom and asked me point blank what was up with the discrepancy between my Asian last name and my non-Asian features. Apparently when I first showed up they originally discussed it and assumed I was married to an Asian man and had taken his name, but that theory fell apart when someone saw the desktop picture of me with my Caucasian girlfriend. Honestly, I couldn’t believe they had the time and energy to devote to this “mystery”. This is definitely not something that is tolerated in our workplace culture, which explains why the confab took place in the ladies’ room. It was a startling experience!
BRR* June 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm I’m kind of getting Mean Girls from this. You can’t just ask people why they’re white.
Turanga Leela* June 19, 2014 at 2:22 pm Ha, that was my thought. It is completely shocking how many people think it’s appropriate to ask mixed-race people, “What are you?”
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 2:27 pm If they are asking due to race, that’s weird – but people do ask that a lot just to make small talk – referring to ethnic descent. I have a very Polish last name and a very Polish maiden name – so I’ve gotten “you don’t look totally Polish – what are you?” Maybe it’s just a Chicago thing, but I pretty much know the main ethnic makeup of most white people with whom I work. Not because anyone is nosy, but because it just comes up a lot. We have a lot of ethnic festivals and everyone has an opinion on ethnic food – maybe that’s it.
Turanga Leela* June 19, 2014 at 2:39 pm I had an older relative who used to ask everyone he met about their ancestry, just because he was fascinated by it. That didn’t really bother me. I also have a last name that doesn’t match my appearance, and it’s led to some questions (which I don’t mind) and some assumptions about both my ethnicity and my religion (which I do). But I’ve seen my mixed-race friends get a lot more questioning about their backgrounds, and it’s often oddly hostile, like it’s their job to classify themselves and/or justify their ethnicity to whoever’s asking.
Mints* June 19, 2014 at 3:00 pm Yeah this varies a lot based on how you look. I’m mixed race, but often read as white. And I get more questions when I’m not white passing. I used to sometimes say “Guess” when people asked “Where are you from / What are you” and it really really varied. Half white half…unicorn? Half black? Filipino? Mexican? But if they assumed white I usually wasn’t asked And if you want to hear a lecture, let me hear you say “How are you Latino/Mexican/other country if you look white/black/Asian?” I don’t mind talking about any of this, it’s the challenging tone that I hate
JBeane* June 19, 2014 at 4:25 pm THIS. I get this question often and when it’s asked in a hostile manner, I get angry. This particular incident stood out because it took place at work (last place I’d expect), and I was a temp hoping to become permanent, so I didn’t feel like I could resort to my old standbys of sarcasm or creative storytelling. I honestly don’t mind telling the simple truth about my mixed heritage in response to a sincere question, but when I’m being interrogated about my ethnicity it feels like I have to justify my own existence.
cuppa* June 19, 2014 at 4:45 pm It’s definitely a Chicago thing. I used to live there, and people ask a lot about your nationality or try to guess from your last name.
Chris* June 19, 2014 at 7:02 pm this annoys me too. I am part polish and people mention the same thing. There is no answer. And I have been to Poland a few times and not everyone there looks “typical polish” either, so….
Christine* June 19, 2014 at 7:41 pm I’m part Polish, and I have no idea what “typically Polish” looks like! I’m curious now!
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 12:56 pm Well can you blame them? How dare you go walking around with your own face and your own name? Kind of presumptuous to assume you can go through life being yourself. / sarcasm That’s shocking.
Steve G* June 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm I don’t think this was a crazy question on their part. If I set up an appointment with a guy names Shlomo Engelberg and I get there and a black guy is standing there, I’m gonna ask a question or two before we get down to business! Like, are you the right person?!
Mints* June 19, 2014 at 8:34 pm But there’s a pretty wide difference between “Oh you’re Kelly Nguyen?” in genuine surprise, versus interrogation. Because even if her coworkers were pretty confused, the only thing to say next is “Nice to meet you.” Not “I thought you would be Asian. Why aren’t you Asian?” And she had been there a week I know the difference between actual curiosity (which I love to indulge, and will talk to your ear off about my country) and interrogations from people who want to tell me about my identity
Befuddled Squirrel* June 19, 2014 at 9:26 pm “What’s your ethnicity?” – Makes me uncomfortable, but most people seem to consider it friendly small talk. “Let me guess your ethnicity. Are you ____ ? You look _____.” – Also common but comes across as really creepy. What am I supposed to make of being told I look like I’m from a certain country?
Marie* June 20, 2014 at 9:26 am I get this SO MUCH! I do my best to share no information, and it makes them so mad. E.g.: “That’s an interesting name combination.” “Yes, isn’t it?” “Very unusual.” “Very.” “Where does it come from?” “Well, it’s a double-barrel, so it’s a combination of two names.”
Elizabeth* June 19, 2014 at 12:54 pm Not sure if this is “nosy” or just lack of boundaries, but when my boss learned my boyfriend is involved in TV production, she exclaimed loudly (in the middle of Starbucks, no less), “Elizabeth! Sleeping with the producer!” I get that she was teasing (she cultivates a very casual workplace), but as someone who tends to keep my personal life private, I got all tongue-tied and couldn’t do much more than offer an awkward chuckle while blushing about six ways to Sunday.
Emmers* June 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm My mom is a notoriously picky gift recipient, and it can be difficult to gauge what she might like and what might ale her cringe. One Valentines Day, my dad enlisted my help to pick out something nice for her from the boutique where I worked. I chose a necklace and earring set that I thought was really pretty, wrapped them up, and handed them over to my dad. She hated them, and brought them back to the store one afternoon while I was working. My nosy coworker hovered around as I went through the embarrassment of my mom returning what I had picked out for her. After my mom left the counter to peruse the store, the coworker–let’s call her C–proceeded to tell me that she didn’t think my mom would like the jewelry when I picked it out, “but didn’t want to say anything.” Irritated, but not wanting to snap back at her, I left the counter and went to see what my mom was looking at. Undeterred, C followed us around the store until my mom found something she liked. C honestly meant well, but she turned what was already an uncomfortable scenario into a humiliating one. There were myriad other situations where she repeatedly stuck her nose in where it wasn’t desired. Private conversations with our manager were rarely private, and when she inadvertently found out about some major changes to our business before the manager and me, she let it slip that she knew something and then lorded it over us, “Oh I wish I could tell you, but I can’t…” She’s a great human being and we still keep in touch, but I am glad to not be working with her anymore.
AGirlCalledFriday* June 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm When I was teaching overseas, my boss was very worried about me going back to America. Therefore, she would always question me about whether I was dating someone, why don’t I date this or that coworker?!!!, am I ok with being married and having children, she could set me up with a wealthy acquaintance that she knew…and if we hired another male employee, she and others would suggest that we date. It was…awkward, to say the least!
GigglyPuff* June 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm After reading only half of these, I feel much better about my gossip, and oversharing habits. I like knowing gossip, but I know boundaries and when to keep it to myself. And while I dive right into certain personal details of my life, I can definitely read people well enough to know who couldn’t give a flying fig, and who wouldn’t mind at all hearing about my personal life. Seriously it’s nice to know, that for the most part, my tendency to overshare (within some limits), is not the worst thing in the world, in the lines I could overstep at, at work.
Purr purr purr* June 19, 2014 at 1:03 pm I had a colleague who wanted to know how many men I had slept with! She asked me when we were at an informal pub quiz and literally all of my colleagues went silent. I told her that it wasn’t any of her business and then she was like, ‘Ah ok, you must be a slut then.’ I was furious! So furious that I said, ‘I could count them all on less than one hand,’ and she was like, ‘Yeah, right, OK,’ (with a snort, as though I was lying) and then asked, ‘So how many men have paid you for sex?’ She was a cow. That was the moment when I slammed my drink down and considered smacking her in the face. Not my finest moment but thankfully my friends calmed me down before I inflicted any damage.
Purr purr purr* June 19, 2014 at 1:18 pm I wish I could rewind time and say that. I like the way you think!
littlemoose* June 19, 2014 at 3:36 pm My eyes. They have bugged completely out of my head. I wouldn’t ask my best friend that question, much less a coworker, whether in a pub setting or not!
donne* June 19, 2014 at 1:04 pm This one wasn’t mine, but at my girlfriend’s old office, the “tier” you were in for insurance (and thus how much you paid for premiums) was based on a yearly health screening. She was placed into a “riskier” category based on being three pounds over “normal” weight. (And that was the only thing– everything else, cholesterol, etc, all well within normal ranges.) Aggravating for many reasons, but not the nosy coworker part. At her annual performance review, her (male) manager super awkwardly brought up the health screening, and started trying to discuss ways she could “improve her health”, i.e. ways to lose weight. My girlfriend has a history of anorexia, and was *flabbergasted* that her manager would talk to her about this. It was one of the finals nails in the coffin that led to her finding a new job, esp. when she found out her male coworkers didn’t get this “how to improve your health” discussion.
Rat Racer* June 19, 2014 at 1:46 pm I had no idea that it was legal for employers to use those HSAs as a means to “tier” employees into risk brackets for health insurance. And then for a manager to bring it up at an end of year evaluation? That sounds like a serious HIPAA violation (unless you are not in the US, in which case I have no clue)
MaryMary* June 19, 2014 at 2:46 pm It is legal (and not unusual) for employers to use biometric screening results or health risk assessments to tier health premiums. A manager could know what tier their direct reports are in (as could HR, payroll, etc), but knowing what medical conditional or health reason put the individuals in that tier is a HIPAA violation. Discussing it with your employees is definitely inappropriate, whether it’s a HIPAA violation or not. Last enrollment period, I purchased additional critical illness and accident coverage for myself (I’m single, those benefits are more beneficial for me than life insurance). My manager, who works with our internal benefit programs, told me he approved of my choices and congratulated me on my financial planning. Potentially a HIPAA violation, certainly inappropriate. The kicker: I work in employee benefits consulting.
nuqotw* June 19, 2014 at 1:06 pm Not sure if this was nosy or just wildly inappropriate. I am female. When I was 17 or 18, a man (probably in his early 40s) whose job had nothing to do with mine asked me at the office water cooler if I ever thought about sex, and if so, what did I think. I was naive and had no clue what to say or even that this was totally out of line. I just remember how completely uncomfortable I was. I fumbled some response and excused myself. A woman (a full-fledged adult) in the office must have overheard the exchange because she pulled me aside later that day for a private conversation to explain that if anyone said anything that made me uncomfortable, I should by all means speak up and shut it down, and some ways to do that. I suspect she also said something to this man because he never spoke to me again, thank goodness.
Observer* June 19, 2014 at 3:26 pm Wildly, outrageously inappropriate. And, good for the woman who gave you some pointers and shut the guy down. I’m not surprised that you didn’t know what to say – I think a lot of full fledged adults would have a problem with that. But, how do you reach that age and not know that such a question is inappropriate? That’s a genuine question, not a criticism.
Flashback Thursday* June 19, 2014 at 3:52 pm In my previous job (at a call center), there was a person I had to work with to coordinate deliveries. He was creepy for a while, calling me sexy, etc., and I had to tell him several times that it was inappropriate and I wasn’t comfortable with it. Then I got married and moved to a different branch of the same company. I had to come up, and he had the nerve to ask me how my sex life with my husband was! Something nasty about newlywed habits. I was so disgusted I couldn’t think of anything to say, so I’m pretty sure I gave him stink eye and walked off.
hildi* June 19, 2014 at 5:08 pm Something similar happened to me one time, too. It’s about the only time I wish I was a bitch because I was too shocked to say anything. Which made me look weak. It was worse becuase I was an officer in the military and the guy that said it was enlisted, which added a whole other level of wrong. I was so young and naive (i WISH there had been AAM back then) that I just laughed it off and moved on.
nuqotw* June 19, 2014 at 4:28 pm I felt that something was wrong, but I thought that perhaps it was just my perception, and therefore dismissed the feeling – something possible only because I was young and had no frame of reference. Sure, I had been told that certain *categories* of behavior (sexual harassment, for example) were not okay, but I didn’t have the experience to recognize it in the moment for what it was. (I don’t think this phenomenon is uncommon among young women, actually, and more generally among young people. You know something is wrong, but you don’t know how wrong it is, if it’s worth making a stink about or if you will just come across as a whiny kid, you’re 17 and desperately want to appear “grown up” etc.)
Flashback Thursday* June 20, 2014 at 10:15 am This. It took me years to realize that inappropriate behavior on another person’s part is, by definition, not in my head. I don’t even like to think about the crap I put up with. It’s horrifying. I was so scared to speak up and have someone pooh pooh my feelings or experience that I hardly ever did. It’s sad.
Jubilance* June 19, 2014 at 1:12 pm I just came in to say, I’m so glad I don’t have any truly nosy coworkers. I do have a coworker that loves to gossip, but at least she knows how to ask a question tactfully. I have never had someone say anything really rude to me, like “when are you going to get married?” or “when are you going to have a baby?” which is a shame because I’d love to tell that person to stay out of my relationship and my uterus.
Andrea* June 19, 2014 at 1:14 pm OMG-K! She had real boundary and control issues: 1. Commenting later on the conversation (client or personal) you had on the phone earlier (why do people hate open floor plans?). 2. Insisting people dress up (read: where cheesy, color-coordinated sweaters) on major and minor holidays. Reminding people before and castigating after. 3. Taking away her colleague’s CALCULATOR, stating she didn’t need it. We only worked on negotiating multi-million dollar contracts.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 1:20 pm I am dying just picturing my face and that of the vast majority of my co-workers if we were told to wear coordinating sweaters. What are we, the Von Trapps? I did have someone once give me a frowny face along with a “I thought you were Irish?” because I didn’t wear green on St. Patrick’s Day. I never wear green – I hate it and it does me no favors. That fashion choice doesn’t really change where my grandfather was born, though…not sure where the correlation is there. Seriously? The matching sweater thing would set off my cult radar and I’d be super nervous!
Chinook* June 19, 2014 at 2:06 pm “I did have someone once give me a frowny face along with a “I thought you were Irish?” because I didn’t wear green on St. Patrick’s Day.” Ooohhh…if someone had the gall to say that to me, I would be tempted to say that my family always preferred orange. If that got a blank stare, which I totally would expect, I would then go on about how not every Irishman is Catholic and the colours usually represent which side of the religious/political divide you are on and, more importantly, my family left that type of division when they moved here. I would then follow up by pointing out that we are a complicated people from a complicated country who are more than a sterotype and, if they don’t ask Jim Cardinal down the hall why he isn’t wearing feathers for Aboriginal Day, then he sure as darn well better not be asking me where my green is. Yup – I have a high horse and I like it up here. And, for the record, I happen to have lots of shamrock jewelry and my dad does kind of look like a leprachaun, but I do resent that it is expected.
OriginalYup* June 19, 2014 at 2:28 pm If I’m in a good mood, I say, “I’m Irish every day.” Otherwise, I just raise my eyebrow significantly and say, “How do you know I’m not wearing something green…somewhere?”
MaryMary* June 19, 2014 at 2:48 pm My Dad is Polish, wears red and white on St. Patrick’s Day, and growls at anyone who tells him ‘everyone is Irish on St. Patrick’s Day!” I also have a friend who is Irish but Protestant, and she does wear orange on March 17.
Malissa* June 19, 2014 at 4:36 pm Try having an Irish last name and being born on St. Patrick’s Day. By the time I was 15 I hated the color green. I have to be picky where I go out on my birthday because I have no patience for drunken tom foolery.
Mallory* June 19, 2014 at 11:50 pm A bunch of coworkers spontaneously decided to wear a certain t-shirt on Fridays once. Our student professional organization chapter had t-shirts made up, and our dean bought all the staff one. Someone said, “I’m going to wear mine on Fridays”, someone else said, “Me too”, and an informal trend was born. Then when our new dean’s assistant came aboard, she tried to seize the trend and formalize it into “Everyone must wear university color t-shirts on Fridays” with nagging reminders all week long followed by castigation of the non-compliant from Friday into the next week . . . and our happy, spontaneous habit was abandoned by one and all.
Pickles* June 19, 2014 at 1:50 pm Yes, this! When I got to my current office, they told me all about their blue Mondays, red Tuesdays, yellow Wednesdays, purple Thursdays, and green Fridays. I am not kidding. And some folks actually did it.
Diet Coke Addict* June 19, 2014 at 2:00 pm Did you actually work at the high school in Mean Girls, where on Wednesday they wore pink? Oh my god.
arjay* June 19, 2014 at 2:14 pm I’d have to take PTO every Wednesday. I cannot successfully pull off any shade of yellow.
Emily, admin extraordinaire* June 19, 2014 at 2:35 pm At a previous job we had Argyle Wednesdays, but it was a) mostly a joke and b) became a joke because, for several weeks running, at least two coworkers in my department showed up wearing argyle sweaters on Wednesdays.
Mallory* June 19, 2014 at 11:56 pm My coworker’s wife and her gay work husband have “gingham Fridays” in which they are the only two participants. They each have closets full of gingham clothing and they parade around in it every Friday. I kind of want to participate! Another group of faculty have been doing “jersey Fridays” for at least the past 8 years. It’s a longstanding tradition for some of the young men faculty (well, they were the young men faculty when the tradition started; they’re more the mid-career guys now). The rest of us just do jeans on Fridays. Now that it’s summer at the university, every day is Friday and we wear Friday clothes all summer long.
MaryMary* June 19, 2014 at 2:56 pm I used to work at a casual dress office, and one manager jokingly instituted Dress Up Wednesday after a charming saleswoman at Men’s Wearhouse sold him several unnecessary dress shirts and ties. It was fun to swap the jeans for a dress on the occasional Wednesday. However, Formal Friday, where we would wear tuxedos and ballgowns to work, never got off the ground.
Mallory* June 19, 2014 at 11:58 pm Some of the kids at my kids’ school do “Fancy Friday” where the boys wear suits and ties, and the girls wear dresses and heels. Neither of my kids does it so far, but they ‘ve both been talking about starting. My son asked me to buy him a Fancy Friday suit.
Bender B Rodriguez* June 21, 2014 at 7:53 pm I occasionally did Formal Friday when I worked at a warehouse. Nothing quite to the fancy degree of tuxedos and ballgowns, but I would make my hair look nice and wear a blouse and dress pants with my sneakers.
LD* June 20, 2014 at 10:12 am My dentist’s office does this…but they are wearing company polos with the office name on them. It’s a uniform for them, not a choice.
Chinook* June 19, 2014 at 1:15 pm My nosiest coworker would cover the reception desk while I was on coffee break. The company insisted that they couldn’t give us separate logins at the desk, so, in order to manage any urgent courier requests that came to the desk, I was required to let anyone covering the desk to be logged in as me. Well, I was having a personality conflict with nosy coworker and sent an email to my Office Manager explaining an issue (I couldn’t go and talk to her in person because reception always had to be covered and it wasn’t a private place for this type of conversation). I filed this email in my mailbox folder labelled “personal.” A few weeks later, Office Manager said that nosy coworker had complained that I was talking behind her back and had lied about her in an email. I asked O.M. if she had shared the email and she said I didn’t and neither had I. When we both asked N.C. whered she got her information, she said she figured that an email with her name in the subject line was meant for her or why else would I leave it in my mailbox (in a collapsed folder labelled “personal.”) The next day, they arranged for IT to get me a new computer that allowed for a separate login for those covering reception and N.C. was never asked to cover the front desk ever again.
Transformer* June 19, 2014 at 1:16 pm I used to work in HR. Our department had an internal email group that we used to dicuss need to know HR information between locations (terminations, medical leaves, new policies that we were considering implementing, employee complaints, etc). Somehow, the VPs new admin convinced the IT guy to add her to all email lists including ours. It took two weeks of hearing anonymous gossip through the org before I figured out what was going on and removed her from all the lists and updated processes to make sure it didn’t happen again.
ElleD* June 19, 2014 at 1:16 pm I complimented a coworker’s fabulous leather jacket and she told me that she would give it to me if I lost weight. She said this in front of my office nemesis and then cornered me in the elevator (office nemesis still in attendance) that she was being serious and wanted me to lose weight because she was concerned I may develop diabetes like her parents and lose a limb. She thought she was doing me a favor. Even though I am overweight I have no health issues like diabetes or high blood pressure. However, she still felt she could speak to me this way. it was totally humiliating. I went to HR and they told me there was not law to prevent a co worker talking to me about losing weight. *grumbles*
KellyK* June 20, 2014 at 10:54 am Wow. That is awful. I’m sorry anyone was that rude. Also, your HR is filled with cowardly weasels. There doesn’t have to be a law for her boss to tell her to knock that crap off.
Lora* June 19, 2014 at 1:24 pm At a crappy summer college job, two of my co-workers went to a particularly…odd…church, which was very assertive about its members being on the alert for signs of the devil. Upon finding out that I did not go to a church they approved of, they took it upon themselves to go through my handbag and credit cards, looking for any combination of numbers on anything that could be remotely interpreted to say “666”. When I complained to the manager about people going through my personal things, I was told that it was OK for them because freedom of religion. Other stuff: -I’m from Amish country, and parts of my family are indeed Amish and Mennonite. When all the Amish TV shows were on, I got some really awesome questions about it. -Similarly, just because I grew up in a rural, conservative state, does not mean that I personally am conservative in my politics, and I would appreciate being left out of political discussions entirely, thanks. -As many other women have mentioned, my reproductive plans & love life are frequent topics of conversation. -What is it with asking people their age? FYI, all women everywhere are 27. We just are. What am I supposed to say to “wow, you look great for your age”? “Thanks, the botox is really helping I think”? -Yes, my sunburn is peeling. Nobody, NOBODY other than a dermatologist may peel bits of skin off my shoulders though. Jeez. On a similar note, don’t touch my hair. Yes it is long. Yes it’s my natural color. No, none of it is grey despite my advanced age (see above), it’s just genetics. Just don’t TOUCH people! -I indulge in spendy Lush shampoo/conditioner/shower gel sometimes; commentary such as “your Thursday shampoo smelled better” is unwelcome.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 2:19 pm The shampoo thing is weird. I’ve had that, too. An old boss would walk by my desk and bury his face in my hair and inhale deeply and say – just what I needed, I love the smell of your shampoo. And when I changed he didn’t like it and asked me to go back to the old kind. He’d also comment on how soft my hair was and rub his cheek against my head before walking away. He also had a thing for noticing my socks – and if I went too many days in a row wearing plain colors he’d complain and ask when I was going to wear X or Y – and request specific socks I owned. It was really weird. He also, in the middle of a benchmarking event, where I was just standing quietly and people were speaking to him ( he was a very big deal – top of tptb chain) he made a clawing motion at me with his hand and meowed loudly. When I didn’t reply, because at this point I’m mortified and everyone is staring at him, he did it again – louder. The went back to talking to the suit he interrupted to do this. Still have no idea what that was about. Also called me on a Sunday morning because he was at the airport and bored and wondered if it was my job to come and keep him company until his flight left. I said no, that wasn’t my job, and he said okay – just checking. It definitely wasn’t flirting or anything sexual – just really bizarre. He was a difficult man to work for and could get very angry – but never at me so I actually had a better working relationship with him than anyone because he didn’t scare me. That created some weird bond I still don’t understand. But yeah – the shampoo. On season 1 of Everybody Loves Raymond Frank smells the babies heads deeply and sighs loudly saying “sucking in the youth! I’m sucking in the youth!” Except for the words it was the exact same action – and when I told my husband that when we were watching I got the weirdest look – like oh right, it’s not normal that my boss buries his face in my hair.
Blue Anne* June 20, 2014 at 9:29 am “An old boss would walk by my desk and bury his face in my hair and inhale deeply and say – just what I needed, I love the smell of your shampoo.” Oh my god. No, no, no. I would have punched that person in the face, no joke. You know when people rub their face in my hair and lovingly compliment me on how much they love the smell of my hair? When we are sweat-soaked and snuggling after awesome sex. That is it. That is the only time it’s appropriate. Holy crap.
Lo* June 19, 2014 at 2:24 pm Your descriptions are absolutely hilarious, thank you for providing me some afternoon amusement. Your coworkers who have done the things you mentioned, as well as that original manager who clearly has no idea what freedom of religion actually means….WAY less hilarious.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 2:35 pm The age thing – yes, why is that something people think is okay to ask now. I get that they think it’s a compliment but gasping when you hear my age and saying you didn’t think I was that old…or asking if my kids are stepkids because I don’t look old enough to have kids in college…well thanks. I know you think you’re being complimentary but all you’re doing is prolonging the conversation about how old I am. And I’m not bragging – I just have good skin but looking young =/= looking gorgeous so since I don’t take looking like a younger version of myself as much of a compliment this isn’t really doing anything for me. I did get some good advice from a family member ages ago… If you are going to lie about your age lie up. You don’t want people thinking you had a hard life if you shave too many years off – so add 20 years. Then no matter what people think you look fabulous. I may start using that so as to avoid the conversation.
Lora* June 19, 2014 at 3:29 pm I’ve recently started saying “older than dirt,” “152,” “when I was a kid, we rode our pet dinosaurs to work” etc. and when they say, “you look good for your age” I tell them I drink the blood of virgins every full moon. Or that my secret is healthy exercise, green veggies, yogurt and tequila. Once, one of the new guys asked if, being Amish, I grew up without Internet. *sigh* When I was growing up, in order to use a computer at all, you had to learn FORTRAN…
Rebecca* June 19, 2014 at 3:45 pm I tell people I get regular injections of nanobots. That shuts them up. And yes, my hair is natural, not dyed…just because I’m 51 doesn’t automatically = grey hair!!
cuppa* June 19, 2014 at 4:57 pm I had someone recently ask me at work for my age out of the blue. I told him a ballpark figure and he said, “oh, I thought you were much older than that.” Thanks, dude.
HR Diva* June 20, 2014 at 1:52 pm That’s what I do – I tell people that I am 72 and just lost 100 lbs. Then they stumble and say I look great.
Rebecca* June 19, 2014 at 3:44 pm I had to chuckle at this – my social security number has 3 consecutive 6’s, and when people get all freaky about the ‘666’ thing, I love to bring it up just to watch the shocked facial expressions. I’ve actually had people say I should contact the government and demand they change it. Oh boy.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 5:14 pm I had someone who wouldn’t process an invoice that contained that number.
Artemesia* June 19, 2014 at 7:54 pm A house the Reagans wanted to buy in California after they left office had a 666 address and they insisted it be renumbered.
Mallory* June 20, 2014 at 12:06 am I worked in the state revenue office for a couple of summers in high school/ college, and we always had to offer people the right of refusal when we came to the 666-numbered license plates. We’d always go through a few customers before somebody would finally say it didn’t “make no never-mind” to them.
kat* June 19, 2014 at 11:15 pm Lol. My phone number contains 666 in the middle. I can always tell who is freaked out by it by the sudden pause.
Windchime* June 19, 2014 at 11:46 pm I used to have a coworker who was married to a crazy guy. She borrowed my new Carlos Santana CD and loved it so much that she wanted to buy a copy, but he forbid her to because apparently “Santana” = “Satan”……because, y’know…..letters.
A. Nonymous* June 22, 2014 at 6:29 pm I once stayed in a hotel room that was numbered 666. I laughed when the desk clerk told me the number. He told me that some people flat out refused to stay there. I was in the hotel for a conference and this was before cell phones, so my room phone rang a lot. I took to answering it, “Room 666! How the Hell are you?”
chewbecca* June 19, 2014 at 5:24 pm On the age thing – I had someone try to surreptitiously try to gauge how old I was by asking me vague questions about when I went to/graduated from college. I had just gotten engaged and I think he was trying to figure out if I was “old enough” to get married, since I look like I’m in my early 20s (and I’ll appreciate that when I’m older!). I didn’t see why it was any of his business, even if I was 21 and engaged instead of 31.
Bender B Rodriguez* June 21, 2014 at 8:14 pm I am so worried that gauging is going to come up when an interviewer goes over my resume. “Wow, you started that job in high school?!” “No, where did you get that idea?” “Well you earned your Bachelor’s five years later.” Cue embarrassed awkward explanation of why it took me eight years to get my degree, coming across as indecisive, flighty, a dreamer, and/or someone who makes terrible life choices. And on the other hand, there’s all of that grey hair thanks to genetics. My mother started going grey in her 20s; decades later, so did I.
Anon* June 19, 2014 at 1:27 pm This can’t be completely unusual situation. At my previous job I had a coworker who some of us referred to (behind her back of course) as “the scorekeeper.” She had to know what everyone was doing at every point in time. She had to know what time people arrived at work (our set up was such that she could go the whole day without seeing whether someone was actually in the office and we often worked at other sites) and what time people departed. She had to know what everyone was working. She had to know whether everyone made deadline. She gossiped like CRAZY about everyone. She wasn’t a superior of anyone, a peer to all of those involved but she did also keep tabs on management. Much of this was her martyr syndrome, she wanted to make sure everyone knew she was working longer and on more projects than everyone else. But it got exhausting just working with her. To stay in her good graces and out of the target of her gossip, I would often make sure she knew when I was at work or when I was leaving and what I was working on. If we wanted to leave work early (and by early I mean long after we had been working 8 hours but before her) we would often sneak out. Sometimes this meant changing our exit route. If she asked someone else about your schedule or what you were working on, we would warn them that she was tallying the score and to be careful. It wasn’t nosey as in personal details like many of the posts above. If someone wants to ask about my child bearing decisions, I feel like I can just deflect. It was the professional nosey that drove me crazy.
Not So NewReader* June 19, 2014 at 4:39 pm And these are the people who have the lowest productivity, yet will tell you that they are absolutely killing themselves because they are working so hard.
SerfinUSA* June 19, 2014 at 1:32 pm I have an extremely nosy coworker who monitors people’s monitors as she makes her rounds up & down our floor (among other nosy behaviors). I found a wallpaper sized meme saying “I found your nose. It was in my business again.” and used it as my desktop picture until I felt my point was made. I also found an animated wallpaper of a WW2 anti-Hitler poster depicting an ominous silhouette of a German soldier’s head. The eyes blinked periodically, and I think it said something about the Hun is watching you.
Toothless* June 19, 2014 at 1:36 pm This is nothing compared to some of these, but when I lived in Illinois, I had a coworker who thought it was just fascinating that I’m from the South. Her questions started out fairly normal, but quickly began to reveal that her fantasy South was something out of Gone With The Wind and very, very racist. (“And the neighborhood you grew up in – were they plantation houses there? And the kind of neighborhood that keeps the wrong type out?”) She was very disappointed to learn that one of my grandfathers was a chicken farmer and the other was a chauffeur and that I never even met a debutante.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 1:42 pm I find cultural stereotype questions baffling and sometimes hysterical when asked with a straight face. I did a semester abroad in high-school and met this awesome Dutch guy – first guy I ever saw who wore eyeliner who wasn’t in a band…anyway when he learned I was from Chicago (well the Chicago area, but I don’t expect people in Europe to recognize the suburb) he asked me how old I was when I got my first gun and do we keep them with us in school or is there a place we put them? Also, he was shocked I was not of Italian descent. So apparently all his info about Chicago came from seeing the Untouchables. :) When it’s not done with malice I find it amusing. The racist stuff you experienced, not so much.
Chinook* June 19, 2014 at 2:11 pm “So apparently all his info about Chicago came from seeing the Untouchables. :)” As a Canadian, I know a lot of us who get this type of stuff a lot but there is a standard reponse that we all seem to have on hand from birth – the more outlandish it is (and as long as they are not berating us for not fitting that stereotype), the more we agree with them. This may explain why there are groups of Americans who not only believe that we go around in dog sleds and live in igloos but can honestly say they are right because this Canadian they knew confirmed it.
Turanga Leela* June 19, 2014 at 2:30 pm In 2003, I was living in New York and visiting Europe. I met a German man through a class I was taking, and when he found out where I was from, he said, “Oh, New York! Didn’t you get attacked a few years ago?” Better than a cultural stereotype, I guess–I’ve gotten lots of questions about guns–but much harder to respond to in the moment.
hildi* June 19, 2014 at 5:19 pm This makes me think of a work related association that I was part of several years ago. We had a national conference and the core group that I hung out with included a really fun loving woman from Arkansas with a deep and thick (to my ears) accent. I loved saying words after she said them because I was rolling them over my tonuge and just loved the sound of them. Fast forward to the following year when we all met up again and I apparently did the same thing (repeating some of her words). She told me that when she first met me she thought I was making fun of her, but then realized that it was just how I learn! haha – she was totally right. I’m glad she didn’t get offended becuase I’d never make fun of someone about that – especially to their face. But I didn’t realize I was doing it so noticeably!
Anonsie* June 19, 2014 at 2:16 pm Oh I hear this one. I’m from Texas and it’s insane the things people believe about the state, or the South in general. Though I usually get the opposite of this specific reaction. A significant part of the American population sincerely believes that the South is just racism (and the only place racism exists, natch) and anti-intellectualism turned into flesh and soil. A lot of folks really believe Texans are single-handedly keeping this country from becoming a utopian society with streets paved in gold.
itsame...Adam* June 19, 2014 at 2:37 pm Goes both ways. Americans asked me if we have cars in Germany…
Anonsie* June 19, 2014 at 2:59 pm Oh no, I’m talking about other Americans. If it was someone who grew up somewhere else, I’d understand it more.
A Kate* June 19, 2014 at 3:33 pm Whaa??? But this goes against the stereotypes most Americans have about Germany. You all drive BMWs really fast on the Autobahn, right? ;-)
Peep!* June 19, 2014 at 7:58 pm An acquaintance of mine asked our German friend (first time meeting) if Germany had re-built much since WWII. WHAT. I almost fainted! SO AWKWARD. And he wanted to be a history teacher, too, which was embarrassing.
Eli* June 20, 2014 at 7:23 am Oh my GOD. I would have died. (Although, Brit here, so it would be even less excusable). Have you seen that Fawlty Towers sketch? :)
Peep!* June 20, 2014 at 3:29 pm Oh man, I can’t even imagine what it would’ve been like if we were British instead. Sigh. But no! I’ve only seen a few episodes of Fawlty Towers, so I guess I need to catch up on netflix! I’m cringing in anticipation, haha! ;D
Anonylicious* June 19, 2014 at 4:49 pm If you’re white and from the South, you will so find out who the racists are when you move to other parts of the country. They’ll just say things and assume you’ll be okay with it, and I’m all, wtf is wrong with you? It’s an interesting, if disturbing, phenomenon.
KerryOwl* June 19, 2014 at 5:34 pm It might not have anything to do with being from the south. I’m white and in the northeast, and am always amazed when people are casually racist in front of me, and expect a “I know, right?” reaction. I guess racists think that everybody is racist? You’d think they’d want to feel out their audience first.
Bea W* June 19, 2014 at 9:27 pm I’ve had the same experience my entire life. Definitely not just a “I know you’re from the South” phenomena. It’s more of a “casual racism is acceptable” kind of thing, more pervasive in some areas than others.
AC* June 20, 2014 at 3:18 pm This happened to me in Target! A guy literally looked me up and down, then started talking about how disgraceful it was that Spanish was on the labels. What makes it worse? Yeah, I’m mostly Caucasian, but I’m also part Hispanic. STFU, dude.
Bender B Rodriguez* June 21, 2014 at 8:30 pm My s.o. once had a customer who was discussing the imbalanced amount of snow this region received. Lots of snow in our neighborhood which has predominantly (but not 100%) low-income households. Not much snow in the affluent suburb where he works. The customer insisted, “that’s what they get for living down there.”
Artemesia* June 19, 2014 at 7:50 pm So absolutely true. I am not from the south but lived there for several decades, so when asked where we moved from, I say ‘big southern city’ — and get the exact thing happening you mention.
Pickles* June 19, 2014 at 1:48 pm My nosiest coworker likes to know everything, but refuses to share sources. He might be useful, except I’m in a position to find out the real story most of the time, and he’s often misconstrued or warped something. The number of times he’s given out information to the office or given project direction as if he’s in a position of authority (he isn’t) is astounding, and he’s confused a lot of his peers as to whether he’s in charge of things. He asks a lot of nosy questions that aren’t his business, shows up to high-level meetings he wasn’t invited to, refuses to share office leadership what he’s working on (or that he’s going to these meetings), disappears for hours at a time, gets away with doing very little work that’s usually poor quality, switches conversations on his career goals to someone else entirely as if it’s his business, and uses his wife’s position of authority to try to task people. (Sadly, I’m not in a position to do much about his behavior.) Speaking of his wife, for someone who’s really nosy, he was deliberately silent about his wife. They were both in the same office at the time they got engaged, and thought they could keep working directly together without issues even though she’s in a position of authority and he’s not (being the person who got to clean up the mess, there were a TON of issues with this). Most of the office found out they were dating when she showed up with a giant rock on her left hand – and the entire thing got a lot of raised eyebrows because a) no one knew she’d gotten divorced until then, and b) everyone thought it was incredibly weird with how sneaky they were being about the whole thing.
Xay* June 19, 2014 at 1:48 pm Many years ago, I had a coworker who thought she was a supervisor or at least her idea of a supervisor. She arrived first and left last and kept track of everyone’s comings and goings, including walking past everyone’s office and cubicle to see what they were doing. She also liked to hover around the fax machine to see if people were getting personal faxes and then gossip about people who have the nerve to use government resources to buy houses or handle medical business. Away from work, she was a nice person but as a coworker, not so much.
BEEN THERE* June 19, 2014 at 1:48 pm I had a supervisor that was going through my desk at night. After a couple of side-bar comments in which left me puzzled as to ‘how did she know?” type of facial expressions. I finally figured it out. I started leaving notes in my desk to her. She stopped.
Mena* June 19, 2014 at 1:49 pm Early in my career I had an older colleague present me with “Dress for Success,” explaining that the book could help me. This person was a freak in her dressing choices and as soon as I could afford to dress for success, I certainly did (but at that time, food, shelter, and transportation took much of my salary). I still laugh remembering her suits!!
MDum* June 19, 2014 at 1:52 pm Not a nosy coworker but a nosy classmate who opened everyone’s mailboxes (so about 400 mailboxes) to check their test scores on the TOEIC and went to see the few who obtained better score than him to yell at them that it wasn’t fair.
CAS* June 19, 2014 at 1:54 pm Some years back, I was working as a bank teller with a coworker named Nancy. Nancy had embraced the idea of reducing her dietary fat intake. She decided not only that she wasn’t going to consume fat; she also decided the rest of us also should not consume fat. Nancy paraded around the bank lobby several times each day with stories about the minuscule amount of fat she’d consumed. If she had a no-fat day, it was a big deal. Then Nancy began patrolling the break room, where she monitored everyone else’s fat consumption. Over the lunch period and break times, Nancy entered the break room, observed our food, and commented about the fat content. The comments always began with, “That has a lot of fat in it,” and ended with, “Are you sure you should be eating that?” No one appreciated Nancy’s commentary about their food choices. We would respond with some variant of, “You’re not eating it,” or “Yes, and I’m enjoying it.” This went on for months. The problem resolved itself naturally after Nancy had a doctor’s appointment. She’d been looking forward to the appointment because she was certain her doctor would be blown away by her fabulous cholesterol level. Seriously. Her doctor was blown away, but not in the way Nancy had hoped. Her diet had completely messed up her blood chemistry, and the doctor referred her to a dietitian for help. I give Nancy credit for sharing that with us. We never heard another word about fat again.
Onymouse* June 19, 2014 at 3:36 pm Poor Nancy. It sounds like she wasn’t trying to pry as much as “mother” everyone around her. I’m sympathetic, especially after how it ended.
Rebecca* June 19, 2014 at 3:50 pm Yep, the no fat police. People need fat in their diet, and while sitting down with a big spoon and a five gallon lard can isn’t the solution, there are good fats that are beneficial. I had a former coworker who jumped on this bandwagon when the Snackwell cookies came out, trumpeted as No Fat. She ate boxes upon boxes of them, and was shocked when she gained 8 lbs in a month. She was almost crying when she said “but they don’t have any fat in them!!”, and we had to gently remind her they still had calories.
CAS* June 19, 2014 at 4:00 pm Exactly. I wish I could explain Nancy’s attitude. She bragged constantly about how little fat she was consuming and used herself as the barometer for what the rest of us should be eating. It would be one thing if she were expressing it in a caring manner, but she wasn’t. She was bragging and judging and putting her nose in other people’s lunches. It was obnoxious. “Peanut butter?! Do you know how much fat is in that?!” Yes. “There’s fat in that turkey, you know.” Yes. Yes, I do. “I don’t know how you can eat that cheese.” Watch me.
Laura* June 19, 2014 at 4:46 pm “I don’t know how you can eat that cheese.” “Well, I insert it into my mouth, and then I close my jaw so that these hard objects called ‘teeth’ cut into it, and….” …also, she would have driven me utterly batty in very short order.
AVP* June 19, 2014 at 1:57 pm I’m 29, female, and I happen to have dense bone structure and weigh significantly more than I appear to (if you were just guessing based on my appearance). Recently we were doing a video shoot and needed someone to stand on a scale for a shot. Not thinking about it too much, I volunteered as I happened to be wearing the right kind of shoes. Would have been fine, except my (late 50’s male ) boss could NOT believe the number on the scale, and kept telling me that it must be broken, could not be right. “You weigh MORE THAN ME how is that POSSIBLE” on and on for like 5 minutes straight while I cringed. So then he gets on it to prove it must be wrong and of course it wasn’t. All while my two very sweet colleagues were trying to run interference, “AVP don’t listen to him you’re totally fine this is ridiculous DUDE SHUT UP” and, totally oblivious to the awkwardness, my boss just kept going and going on how crazy my weight was and how I shouldn’t worry because people would never know. I’m not weird about my weight and I don’t really care who knows what the number is, but I do regret volunteering for that particular task.
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 1:59 pm Are you going to be around for the open thread tomorrow? Because I’ve never known anyone else with this and I have questions. :)
AVP* June 19, 2014 at 2:55 pm Yes! Not on Sunday though. Since it technically relates to my boss in this situation I’m sure you can slip it in :)
Nelly* June 20, 2014 at 8:30 am I’m the same. Massive shoulders/bones for a woman, plus I do weight lifting so I’m heavy with muscle. I look solid, but not like I’d weigh a whole lot. Many years ago I was at a fete, and they had a ‘guess your weight’ guy, and I won a really good prize as he was about 20 kg off! It was an almost life-sized toy leopard, which I still have!
JenTheNiceHRGirl* June 19, 2014 at 1:58 pm I had a nosey co-worker once and she caused a huge workplace scandal. This was in the 90’s and she had actually managed to steal, and photocopy, a list of e-mail passwords from the IT manager. She then began logging into e-mail accounts and snooping around. She was always quick with the office gossip and I never quite understood where she was getting her info from. One day she confessed to me where she was getting her info and I went straight to my boss and tattled. As it turns out she was not only snooping, but had actually printed out a ton of scandalous e-mails between the HR manager and a co-worker she was having an affair with. Apparently the co-worker was trying to break thins off and the HR manager was pretty much harassing him, threatening to have him fired etc.. all over e-mail! Next thing I know, my manager and the CEO are walking the HR manager out… and a few mins later the snooper was fired too.
Not So NewReader* June 19, 2014 at 4:48 pm Good bosses! Nice to hear stories about bosses who have spines.
Artemesia* June 19, 2014 at 4:57 pm Good for you. I don’t understand why so many managers tolerate this sort of thing rather than confront and deal with it.
Nikki* June 19, 2014 at 1:58 pm I’ve worked for my current company for 17 years. When I started, my kids were very young, and some co-workers that have been here as long or longer ask about how my kids are doing from time to time as they remembered when I would bring them in to visit as toddlers. Several years ago when they were about 12, I had a coworker ask how they were doing and what they were up to. After the typical “How old are they now?!?” I answered, and was very quickly asked whether my daughter had started menstruating yet. This co-worker still works here, and will still ask off the wall stuff if you engage her long enough. I try not to!
KerryOwl* June 19, 2014 at 5:39 pm Whaaaaat Even if you were to dignify that with a response, where do you go from there?? Did she want to have a conversation about it?? Oh my word.
Wren* June 19, 2014 at 1:59 pm My boss’s wife has asked me everything from whether and what type of birth control I use, to what my house cost/mortgage payments. I practiced saying, “[name,] that’s private.” I advised the new employee and the student intern to do the same shortly after they came onboard and ran into similarly invasive questions. The woman once gloated that a client had the same [thing] as her, but she got a better bargain when she bought hers. Yeah, she asked a client how much they paid for a personal item, unrelated to our business.
Julie* June 19, 2014 at 2:49 pm I gasped out loud when I read this! How do people think this kind of thing is OK?
Craig* June 19, 2014 at 2:05 pm My manager (who’s absolutely lovely by the way) tracks and restricts my coffee-intake per day because she fears I’ll become an addict. Also told my boss (who I’m closely related to, all the better!) that she’s concerned I’m becoming an alcoholic because she saw me buying drinks for a party after work.
Artemesia* June 19, 2014 at 4:55 pm This person is not absolutely lovely. Talk about crossing boundaries — telling some third person she thinks you are becoming an alcoholic is outrageous.
snuck* June 19, 2014 at 9:51 pm Oh dear! I had a coworker once who joked with me regularly about our caffiene intake (we worked long hours in a high pressure environment in project work) and we had this running joke about who would get the coffees from which vendors – because heaven forbid they actually get to know how much we relied on them to stay upright – we’d buy from different vendors throughout the day so it wasn’t so obvious. Funny at the time if a little silly.
RM* June 19, 2014 at 2:08 pm We have a busy-body in my office. She works at the welcome desk in our lobby and she has to know everything about every body. Everyone calls her the “workplace gossip”. We had someone start a few months back, it only took less than an hour for the “gossip” to give this person the dirt on every employee. Examples: This one is pregnant and has no reason to be, she can’t affor it; this one’s husband cheats on her and gambles their money away; etc. Before this new employee even met half these people, the dirt was already given. I had a meeting in my office with someone from our Corporate Office and she stood outside my door (which is close to the Welcome Desk) and just lingered there listening to everything we were saying. At the time is just chit-chat. She walked away to help someone and the person in my office asked me if she always does this sort of thing. “Constantly”. Our walls are incredibly thin, even if we shut the doors she can still hear what is going on and talks to people about it. People have just learned not to talk to her about personal things. She has been talked to about gossip in the work place but that doesnt stop her from listening. We have to to another part of the complex to have personal conversations at time. How ridiculous!
Lar* June 19, 2014 at 2:30 pm My older sister is short so I often jokingly refer to her as my half sister, as in not tall enough to be a whole sister. One day as I was coming back in to the office my assistant let me know that my sister called so I asked my whole sister or my half sister since she knows my little joke. Nosy coworker over hears this and starts questioning everyone about which of my parents the half sister belonged to and what the circumstances were. The whole office thought it was hilarious and just kept telling her she would have to ask me. She did!
A Kate* June 19, 2014 at 2:40 pm An intern in my department (“Peggy”) was secretly dating a junior employee in another (“Wakeen”). They were both interns when Peggy started, but Wakeen was offered a permanent position soon after, and they wanted to keep things under wraps at the office. I was friends with Wakeen outside of work, and he and Peggy told me about their relationship one night over drinks. The HR rep at our company is easily the least professional person there, and had apparently noticed them flirting. Who knows how. I was impressed by their discretion at work. I don’t know if she actually knew about their relationship, but she dropped constant “hints” about them as a couple to third parties. When my boss and I were making a scrapbook for Peggy at the end of her internship, HR-Rep popped her head into my boss’s office, and said, winking, “Make sure you include plenty of pictures of Wakeen.” Wakeen later nervously confided in me that she kept asking him if he missed Peggy now that she was gone (she moved to another city after the internship). Recently, nearly TWO YEARS after Peggy’s internship ended, we decided to hire someone of her nationality, and HR Rep’s first words after the decision was made were “Well, Wakeen will be happy.” I think she’s looking for someone to confirm her suspicions about the two of them, but I’m resolutely maintaining a confused/dismissive expression and changing the topic whenever it comes up.
Sabrina* June 19, 2014 at 2:44 pm She wasn’t a co-worker, she took the same train shuttle bus and actually worked for a different company. We had a group of regulars so we all got to know one another. But this lady took things too far. She had no problem asking people how much they made, what they paid for their house, etc. Her highlights include asking one woman if her pregnancy was planned or an accident, asking another woman if her hair was real or a wig, and asking a guy if she could borrow his shoes for her sons upcoming band recital because they wore about the same size.
Anon for this* June 19, 2014 at 2:46 pm A coworker asked me once what lesbians do in bed. It doesn’t really count, though, because, even though we worked together, we were good friends by then.
Eli* June 20, 2014 at 7:30 am I hope you didn’t give away any of our secrets! Like sleeping, and shagging, and cuddling… THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.
Flanny* June 19, 2014 at 11:22 pm Oh jeez. You have to be an initiated member of the tribe to know that, duh.
Blue Anne* June 20, 2014 at 10:33 am Oh man. I had a good friend in college who had two moms, who helped her move into her dorm on the first day. As soon as they left, her roommates were questioning her about her parents sex practices. “Do your parents use sex toys?” Holy crap, how would she know? Do YOUR parents use sex toys? You don’t want to know, right? So inappropriate, and, frankly, homophobic. They’d never be asking these things about a straight couple, but for some reason, if you’re gay it’s fine to ask.
Beyond Nosy – A Stalker* June 19, 2014 at 2:49 pm I could write a book about my most nosy co-worker, however, I am still in the healing process after she triggered my PTSD so severely when she stalked me at least twice during my lunch hour. It freaked out the people I was having lunch with also for she was enraged as she walked back and forth in front of the window we were seated next too. There is a year and a half of her being obsessed with my personal life and everything I did in my work life, leading up to the stalking. She interfered and sabotaged my ability to get work done. She was very needy, emotionally and socially. Her moods swings were all over the place. She kept her job because she was good at it and one of her personalities was “Professional Girl” – an act but it worked for her. She wanted me to do things her way or change processes to suit her- after we had already revamped and put processes in place. She loved to interrupt me on days I had deadlines and no matter what I said, I couldn’t get her to stop. She created a very unsafe work environment for me and it caused me serious health issues.
Frances* June 19, 2014 at 3:00 pm This is maybe more boundaries than nosiness, but : I worked at a graduate school for awhile that had a lot of free food around, and because the school was in a converted residential building, the kitchens were more easily accessible than they should have been. We had a recurring issue with people thinking that, because the food for receptions and such was free when it was set out, that they had the right to go into the kitchens and help themselves at all times. We banned people from going into the kitchens unless they were directly involved in food prep for an event, but it still happened from time to time. One morning I went down to start a pot of communal coffee (I was one of the people allowed in the kitchen areas, for that reason) and discovered someone had pulled the previous evenings’ cheese plate out of the fridge then left it on the counter overnight, where it had been overrun by ants. I tossed it in the kitchen wastebasket, then went to tell my boss that it was time to send yet another “don’t touch the food in the fridge” email. Before I even made it back to my desk, one of our postdocs had emailed the director a pretty passive-aggressive email asking what we were doing with the leftover food from events because he just saw an entire cheese plate in the trash. The fact that he shouldn’t have even been in the kitchen in the first place went unremarked upon.
Alexandra* June 19, 2014 at 3:00 pm My coworker likes to comment on everything that I do – from yawning too loudly to conversations that I’ve had on the phone with mother. She is in the office next to mine and listens to everything. She constantly talks to me through the communal wall that separates us and comments on phone calls I’ve had with clients. Because she is so nosy, I’ve started closing my door to get more privacy. When my door is closed, she sends me emails asking me what I’m doing or she’ll knock on the door and ask me why my door is closed.
bullyfree* June 19, 2014 at 3:28 pm Is her behavior causing you any anxiety ? I don’t understand why people behave like she does. Does she not have enough work to do that she needs to fixate on what you are doing and saying ? I’m so sorry you are having to deal with this. It’s not fair to you. Is there anyway you can move to a different office space ?
Alexandra* June 19, 2014 at 4:31 pm While her behavior does not cause me anxiety, it’s a waste of time to answer all her questions. I know for a fact that she has lots of work to do, but she cannot stop herself from asking everyone what they are working on. Why? I don’t know. Perhaps, she constantly needs to compare her work situation with others.
anonymous* June 19, 2014 at 3:19 pm Not as bad as some of these, but a coworker likes to ask me how I’m doing several times a day. Her: How are ya?! Me: Fine. Her: Yeah? What does “yeah?” mean?! Am I supposed to expand on my fineness? Does she not believe me? “Fine” means that I don’t want to have this coversation. Once in the morning is OK, but I’m not doing status updates all day.
Joolsey woolsey* June 19, 2014 at 3:24 pm I have a co worker who has to know EXACTLY where things are, but I’m not really sure why and I’m starting to avoid talking to her because it’s so tiring. I’m originally from another part of the country and I haven’t lived here very long so I don’t know the roads or towns very well and I’ve told her this several times. Every Monday she’ll ask where I went at the weekend which is followed by an interrogation along the lines of “her: is that in x town? Me: yes. Her: how did you get there? Me: I dunno, I just followed the sat nav. Her: did you go along x road, past x village? Me: I’m not sure, I’ve never been there before, I just followed the sat nav. Her: well x building is on that road, did you go past that? Me: I really don’t know, I had to use a sat nav to get there. Her: you would have gone along x road and taken z junction and headed north for 3 mikes. Me: I really don’t know Her: where did you park? Me: I don’t know what it was called, it was in a car park . Her: was it next to x shop? Me: yes, I think so. Her: was it called x car park? Me: I really don’t know. Her: or it could have been y car park. Me: I really don’t know.” What’s more frustrating is I have to hear her have the same conversation with every customer she speaks to, I’m surprised more people don’t hang up on her.
Lynn* June 19, 2014 at 3:37 pm I’m currently pregnant, so the comments are never ending. Some of them are kind and appreciated, but most are absolutely not. The most frustrating one to me was during the end of my first trimester and beginning of my second. I didn’t show at all for a long time (it’s my first pregnancy, and I’m somewhat taller than average), so I kept hearing, “You don’t look pregnant!” “Wow, you’re still skinny!” “I can’t believe you’re __ weeks! You aren’t showing at all!” I probably said stuff like this all of the time before, but, wow, it’s not fun to hear these comments. They make it sound like there’s something wrong, or it would come across as accusatory somehow, making me feel either guilty or nervous. I thought I would eventually snap, but recently, the comments stopped. I must be fat enough for them now. :) Another example of how comments on your co-workers’ appearances are better left unsaid.
Artemesia* June 19, 2014 at 4:50 pm I am tall and have wide hips and was skinny when I got pregnant with my first and didn’t really show till about 4 mos and then not very much — I did make up for it that last month, but for most of the pregnancy I was relatively svelte because I had a built that let me carry gracefully. I got tons of those comments. At one point it freaked me out — what is I really wasn’t pregnant? What if the tests were wrong? It did teach me that almost all comments about pregnancy are likely to be a PITA to the pregnant woman hearing them.
Recent College Grad* June 19, 2014 at 3:42 pm I had ankle surgery a few years ago while I was an intern. I was in and out of a boot cast before that, so most of the office had (politely) asked about it and knew I had gotten hurt from the meat grinder that is college sports. When I came back from surgery (in a full cast and on crutches this time) a woman yelled across the entire office “OH MY GOD DID YOU HURT YOURSELF AGAIN?!” Not really nosy as much as just plain rude, but still…
Jaime L.* June 19, 2014 at 3:47 pm I worked for an organization with a COO who was the administrator for our server, and she read everyone’s emails. She would frequently bring up something that person had mentioned privately in an email to another (third-party) person. For example, someone wrote an email to her husband who was out of town about something sensitive that she didn’t want others knowing. She didn’t tell anyone that her husband was even out of town, and the COO said to her “things must be hard with Hubby out of town, huh?”
GayleGirl* July 10, 2014 at 5:15 pm How does a person remember all of that information? I have trouble remembering everything that is relevant to ME and MY JOB, I have no idea what I would do if I even needed to remember things for other people, too… Wow.
Diane* June 19, 2014 at 3:57 pm I worked at a university when I had a bad flare of crohn’s disease and dropped 30 pound pretty quickly. One of the women’s studies faculty took me aside and kept asking if I had an eating disorder.
snuck* June 19, 2014 at 10:15 pm See this one is difficult – because if you see that happening you might want to find a way to show compassion and caring – I guess it’s in how you approach it – the flip side of this one is “I had a crohn’s flare, dropped 30lbs in weeks and no one cared enough to ask if I was ok”…. I don’t know what the good answer is.
Case of the Mondays* June 20, 2014 at 12:32 pm I also have Crohns and instead of concern I would get “oh my gawd, you look amazing, I wish I could have that too.” (face palm).
Andy* June 19, 2014 at 3:59 pm My Director at Prior Job, when I told her I was pregnant, the due date, and my plans for staying home for the first two years (so no need to worry over maternity stuff, etc., it’s just an exit) said the following two things: 1) you shouldn’t tell anybody that you’re pregnant before x date because it’s inviting tragedy. 2) How on earth can you afford that? OK. Don’t threaten the well being of my unborn child with potential tragedy because I don’t have your superstitions, I have my own including but not limited to spitting to ward off a jinx. Every time you say a jinx-ladden thing to me I want to spit on the ground at your feet to ward it off. I’ll keep mine to myself if you do the same, eh? Secondly, I know you’re just astounded that someone could afford to do this, especially because you pay not a single one of your staff well enough for them to live independently in our town, but keep your mouth to yourself and don’t project your money stuff on my family.
Janis* June 19, 2014 at 4:01 pm Maybe this is not exactly nosy, as it’s really more over-sharing where the recipient becomes “nosy by default.” In a million years I would never want to know some of the stuff I’ve been told. Perhaps I’ll hold out till AAM requests the “Over Sharer” coworker. Suffice to say, there is a whole flock o’ managers who know exactly how many kidney stones a fellow manager has passed (approaching 50 stones), and what “passing a stone” entails.
NurseB* June 19, 2014 at 4:03 pm While I was pregnant with my son, the office that I worked for hired another woman in my department. After she was hired we found out she was also pregnant, due about 4-6 weeks after me. On her first day our supervisor was giving her a tour of the department and introducing her to all of us. When she got to me she asked the normal questions about how far along I was and if we knew what we were having, as well as what we were naming our son. While I’m not a huge fan of going in to those things with a virtual stranger, it wasn’t too bothersome. Then she said “what size are you wearing right now?”. I thought I had a stroke for a minute. What woman asks that of another woman, especially another pregnant woman?? I believe I snorted and laughed a little as if it were a joke. She just stood and stared. My response was, oh I’m not sure, whatever fits. Luckily she didn’t push the issue any further. Oh and she ended up using the same name for her son when he was born as what I named my son even though she had told the entire office a completely different name prior to his arrival. These are just a few of the reasons she received the nickname “Weird Wakeen*” in my household. *Name changed to protect the nosy.
Amy* June 19, 2014 at 4:04 pm Oh my, what a good question. I’ve had some doosies. I am female, and I had a male coworker just point-blank say: “So, you’re married now…does that mean you ‘do it’ a lot?” I was taken aback. Could I have levied some harassment charges? You betcha. I did like the guy and otherwise had no issues working with him. I even took one of his cat’s kittens. Still have the cat…and this lovely memory to go with it. :D My other favorite occasion was during a phone interview. Not technically a coworker, but I was asked things like: “Are you married? Do you have children?” I pointed out that they couldn’t ask me questions like that, and that I would not answer them. They got all huffy and said “Well I HAVE to because it’s going to affect whether or not you can do the job!” I guess legalities just don’t matter to some employers.
Lucy VP* June 19, 2014 at 4:26 pm A few years ago our receptionist got promoted to a different admin role. (Personally I think her supervisor was a victim of the Dilbert Principle because she was never that great but had been at the org. over 10 years.) She obviously had a hard time dealing with the fact that since she was no longer the receptionist she no longer had access to much of the information she previously did. The receptionist knows who is coming to the office for meetings and when they are scheduled to arrive. The receptionist gets told when someone has off-site meetings. The receptionist opens the mail and distributes to the staff. etc. After she trained the new receptionist, she continually ‘checked their work’ for months, including each morning going through the internal staff mailboxes in the mailroom to make sure that the new receptionist had distributed the mail properly and moving items she thought were in the wrong box (but were actually in the correct box.)
Liz* June 19, 2014 at 4:30 pm Many years ago I worked with a woman who was a royal beast. First real job out of college, I was young, so I never spoke up like I should have. She was constantly critiquing my appearance, wardrobe, etc. etc. Totally uninvited comments, I may add. We had bad weather one day so I wore slacks. Apparently she saw some panty lines when I went by her, and shouted out to me, but the whole office could hear, that I was wearing the wrong kind of underwear. She got in massive trouble for that. My manager called me in and asked bout the incident. I told her she was always making rude, nasty comments to me, and if she ever did that again, I would go to HR. Furthermore, she was not to talk to me ever again unless it was hello or goodby. Unbelievable. Fortunately, after that, she did shut up and leave me alone, but I think it was because she knew her job was in danger. I always felt sorry for her kids and husband. How they tolerated her is beyond me, especially when I would hear her say things about how she treated them.
L-Anon* June 19, 2014 at 4:33 pm The coworkers – plural – who ask me whether I and my husband are going to have more children, but especially the one – otherwise nice – who has asked that more than once. Because, she said, we make cute babies and she thinks I should have more. So not only does she think she has the right to know whether we plan that, she thinks she ought to have input? Ummm….
Tami M* June 19, 2014 at 4:36 pm Many years ago, I worked with a girl who would hide around corners and eavesdrop on conversations, go through peoples desks, or just make something up to make someone look bad. (there was one girl in particular she had it in for, who was a really sweet, hard worker) Armed with her ‘ammo’, she’d tell others what she wanted them to hear, add her comments to make it all about her, and try to get others to hold it against the other person(s). If that didn’t work, she’d put a new spin on it to make it like they were talking about whoever she was telling. I’d worked with her for over 8 years, and was just sick and tired of the drama. I decided this has got to stop and changed my tactic. So after asking her how she knew this information in the first place (exposing her covert behavior) I’d act all indignant and offended and tell her ‘lets me and you go ask them about it!!!’. She’d sputter and get this terrified look on her face because she knew the jig was up. After calling her bluff a few times, she left me out of the gossip loop altogether. The worst part, is that she could be sooo much fun to work with when she was behaving. It’s always been my policy to let someone dig their own grave (in this type of instance); if they’re gonna sink, it’s because others were free to form their own opinions and judgements. And slowly but surely, others caught on for themselves, but she never stopped trying, especially if someone new came on board.
Danielle* June 19, 2014 at 5:22 pm Last week I had the secretary of my company ask me if I thought the company would make me full-time; if they made me full-time, would I say yes; and if my boss left, would I want to take her position. This was all in the women’s bathroom, mind you!
De Minimis* June 19, 2014 at 5:23 pm Job before last, I met the receptionist/data entry clerk. She asked if I was married, and then if we had children. I responded that we did not, and she asked point blank, “Why?”
Jamie* June 19, 2014 at 5:28 pm Why is this assumed to be the default? Maybe it’s because as a kid a relative to whom I was very close had fertility issues and it was clear early that there are some things you just don’t ask about – if people want to talk about them they will. And the fact that there is nothing wrong with not wanting kids. In fact I am all about people who don’t want kids not having them – because every child should be wanted in a perfect world. Even if most people do (and I don’t know the stats) it certainly shouldn’t be the default.
Meg Murry* June 19, 2014 at 5:24 pm I worked at a place where the IT director seemed to think that the part of the employee manual warning that email was owned by the company and the employer could read through it if necessary gave him the right to randomly read emails whenever he felt like it. A coworker had disclosed to me (and only me, not even HR at that point) that she was pregnant, and sent me one email referencing it (in a vague way, in the middle of a message as well, not in a subject line or anything). A few days later the IT guy was congratulating her on it, and she was floored. The only other way he would have found out was if he had bugged the ladies room – she told me in there, when we were the last 2 women in the building, in a whisper, so I highly doubt we were overheard. There were several other pieces of info he knew and gossiped about that he probably got through reading email, but I never had direct proof of the other instances, only suspicions.
New HR* June 19, 2014 at 5:41 pm Not so much nosy as rude. She asks me what I do in my spare time and I tell her I like to spend it alone or with my husband and now every time she sees me she tells me that I need a life or need to get out more, and that I am too young not to have any friends or fun.
NoPantsFridays* June 20, 2014 at 12:19 am I get this too– strange how people think their idea of “fun” applies to everyone. I’m not “out” enough so I must not be having fun. OK, whatever.
anonintheUK* June 19, 2014 at 5:52 pm I had an older, male colleague who was for some reason desperately bothered about the fact that I am an over-30 single woman, particularly since I am (to quote him) ‘fairly good looking and not noticeably peculiar’. So he tried to set me up with the only single man of similar age in the office. This became highly embarrassing because said single man is fairly naive and apparently had been led to believe that I was interested in him. I felt bad for him, but I do not do pity dates. What I did do was apologise to him for the confusion, then go and see Older Man and tell him that he would keep his nose out of my personal life in future, and that this was not to be regarded as a request. Apparently this shook him rigid. I later learned that he had been spoken to before about trying to mind other people’s businesses, but perhaps what he actually required was to be told, firmly’ ‘Stop’. Not ‘Please stop’. just ‘Stop’.
YuriAnon* June 19, 2014 at 6:21 pm The HR manager at our relatively small organization has, on more than one occasion, pulled me aside and given me the “You know, you really need to tell me if you’re pregnant” speech, all under the guise of trying to be some sort of big sister figure to me. She keeps insisting its because I “go to the bathroom a lot” – Obviously I’m thrilled that she’s that interested in keeping tabs on my trips to the bathroom as well. She doesn’t realize that this is not only incredibly nosy and intrusive, but incredibly hurtful to me- about a year ago I found out that I am not able to have children, so it is a really sensitive issue for me. Yes still, it has come up about 3-4 times this past year.
Christine* June 19, 2014 at 6:43 pm A General Manager I used to report to had his first child late in life. He and his wife brought the baby in a few weeks after she was born, to show her off, and a couple of the office workers proceeded to grill him on whether they were going to try for a second baby. He had the best response! He gave them a completely blank look, commented, “Wow, that’s a very personal question!”, smiled, and changed the subject. It was perfect because it politely drew attention to how inappropriate the question was, he did not offer an answer, and then quickly moved on. I’ve used that ever since, when someone asks me a question I don’t feel I need to answer.
Layla* June 19, 2014 at 6:44 pm I had two coworkers in a small office where I used to work pick the lock on our manager’s office door and open up our end of year bonus checks and profit sharing statements. They also looked at the bills to see if some of the manager’s bills were being paid on company funds. It caused a lot of contention and hurt feelings.
EAA* June 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm I only pried the nails out that were holding the door shut so I could see the Christmas presents when I was 12.
Ruffingit* June 19, 2014 at 10:38 pm WHAT??? That is…WHAT?? How weird and wrong. And weird. And very, very wrong.
LD* June 20, 2014 at 11:04 am It should have caused a lot of employment terminations for those involved.
Layla* June 21, 2014 at 10:29 pm Nope. The manager 1) didn’t want to confront them, and 2) didn’t want to replace them because they were good at their jobs. Mainly 1. The boss was just as non confrontational.
Angora* June 19, 2014 at 7:13 pm I have to add one and ask for some advise. I have a new job and my boss stands outside my office and eavesdrops so I have gotten so I shut the door. She has listened in on calls; and in a not so smooth move that surprised me (has a Ph.D. .. very intelligent woman) and came around the door and jumped on me regarding the phone conversation … she’s a complete control freak and she is a micromanager. I am the 4th admin in 2 years. I got up one day and just slammed the door in her face and informed the individual on the phone that I needed to shut the door because I have an eavesdropper. I heard her scooting across the floor when I stood up. Now she’s aware that I have caught on, suspect this is why the former secretary played the radio. Will not work for me since she said she doesn’t want music in the office unless it’s classical. Well I have a new twist on the eavesdropping and I am not sure what to do; and how to figure out how it’s being done. Twice this week she has made comments that tells me that she has been listening on my phone calls at lunch. I have a weird set up; you have to go through an large open space that is used by the student workers (we have none this summer). So I have two doors that I lock when I go to lunch. I get on the computer and make phone calls, etc if I do not leave the building. Well she has made two comments to me this week that makes me think she’s recording my phone calls. I know she tears through my desk after hours .. she really messed my files up. I think she has a listening device. She has informed me that there are a couple of faculty that record phone calls and conversations … it could be that one does that and goes back to her. Because I’ll go into the office in the morning… she’ll snap my head off than make a comment that clearly lets me know she’s heard something I’ve said. My question is … how do I even find such a device? Could this be on my computer? Is there a way to disable said device if it’s in the ceiling (I have no way to get to it). She’s there all hours of the day so I cannot pull my office apart without her realizing something is going on.
Diane* June 19, 2014 at 7:30 pm I don’t know if you can find a bug. The most you can do is contain her, limit personal information you discuss in the office, and have conversations away from the office or offline if they don’t involve her (this might be hard in your role). In some states, it’s illegal to record a conversation without disclosure and/or consent. Find out what’s true for your state and drop that on her after the next comment. You can also say, very dryly and unemotionally, that she seems to be eavesdropping and you’re wondering if she has concerns about your work that cause her to do this.
Angora* June 19, 2014 at 8:04 pm I live in Virginia and will look it up. HR is aware of some of the things she’s doing. With a dept head with tenure; it’s hard to get someone to step down or force them to step down when they do not want to spend funds to hire outside the university to replace them. A document got lost that she informed me to “not scan” she has a copy. She does this all the time .. she has some type of memory issue and I am about to go crazy. The next time I catch her I’ll ask her point blank for sure. I have caught her in some huge lies these last few days. I’m all ready just hunting; but it took the prior secretary over a year to find something. This place isn’t that large; but I have put in for one job that I would love to have.
Marina* June 19, 2014 at 7:59 pm If they’re work related calls, is there any reason she shouldn’t listen in? If they’re personal calls, can you make them from a cell phone outside the office? If they’re work related calls, I’d just bring it out in the open that she’s listening rather than trying to covertly stop her covertly listening. Before you make a phone call, say, “Hey [boss], I’m going to make a phone call, would you like to sit in on this one?” If you know she’s listening, put the phone on speaker and say, “Just so you know, [boss] is sitting in on this call as well.” Don’t do it in an accusatory way, but as if your boss had openly told you that she was going to listen to your calls.
Angora* June 19, 2014 at 8:52 pm I like your suggestion. I’ll be taking calls outside the office for sure during my lunch break. She doesn’t want me to know she’s eavesdropping since she ran across the room when I said I needed to shut the door. She has some memory issues. I doubt she realizes or recalls that she’s not supposed to know these things because she is eavesdropping when they pop out of her mouth. I don’t like her listening in because I need to doing this stuff without her tearing it apart. She wanted an admin with a lot of experience; leave me alone to do it. Tell me what you want done; than leave me to do it by your deadline …. the way I get there does not need constant feedback and control. She has ran off three other AA’s … she knows she’s a micromanager; she discussed it with others and now she’s repeating said behavior with me. Well I am so not going talk about her on the phone or to anyone because I think she’s recording things going on in the office. I think she wants to know if I’m job hunting; and than would be the type to turn around and fire me so she said she got rid of me versus; me walking away from her. She is on the hot seat with the staff over her micromanaging the AA. One of the faculty overheard her talking down to me and told her to her face that she shouldn’t talk to me like that. I just wish I could figure out what device she’s using and than get rid of it. I did the research … it’s illegal in VA unless one party has agreed to it. This is my view … if I find a hidden recording device it is disappearing so fast your head could spin. I have done some research ….. you can have voice activated and motion activated recording applications on your cell phone. Not sure how effective they are; but I was surprised to find them.
Angora* June 19, 2014 at 8:56 pm I may just take it to campus police; but they have a tendency to gloss over what faculty do. I had a faculty member back into my car and take off. They left a huge red scrape own my car and part of their bumper hanging in my taillight. I found the suspected car a couple of days ago; and they wouldn’t take the information down. Said they couldn’t do a thing about it.
Ruffingit* June 19, 2014 at 10:43 pm Skip campus police and report it to the town police next time if you can do so. This whole recording/eavesdropping thing is crazy making and I cannot even imagine dealing with that kind of work environment. I’m sorry you have to and I hope you can get out ASAP.
Angora* June 20, 2014 at 3:39 am Dear Ruffingit, Thank you. I am job searching and have made an apt with one of the counselor’s through EAP. I so need to talk someone regarding coping strategies and how I respond to her. I am not sleeping etc in response to all of this. I’m stuck with campus police; it’s a jurisdiction issue. The thing that I do not like is that I cannot formerly file a grievance since I am in a rehire; hence still on probation. Which really sucks. I’m documenting as much as I can what takes place that way I have records for unemployment in case she terminates me.
Ruffingit* June 20, 2014 at 10:37 am I thought it might be a jurisdictional thing, I know campus/town police is like that sometimes. In any case, good for you for documenting and I’m sorry you’re having so many issues sleeping and so on with this. I can’t blame you, it’s perfectly understandable. This woman honestly sounds mentally ill. Something is very wrong with someone who does this. One suggestion I would make too is ensure there’s no tracking/listening device on your personal cell phone. If you’ve ever brought it into work, left it in your desk, etc., you need to find out if she’s tampered with it. I wouldn’t put it past someone like that.
Angora* June 20, 2014 at 8:58 pm Thank you for your support. I keep my phone in my purse and it requires a passcode. I was hoping to avoid looking outside the college, but I’m going to. I stood my ground yesterday regarding something … she was out of line. Today we tried to have a conversation about it; because she admitted she was in the wrong but flipped it around in such a way that she was putting the blame on me. She is extremely anti-social. Why would someone take a job that requires you to interact with people? She’s crazy; and I thought I was going be fired today. She would prefer to fire me before I walk. So I am going have to be extremely professional and mind my “Q”s. Otherwise she will look for a reason to get rid of me for cause to justify her actions. Going do my job; her way and look elsewhere. I’m going to start looking outside the university, no choice in the matter. Still would like to find out where the listening devise is.
denise* June 22, 2014 at 10:43 am Angora, I almost don’t want to say this, because it may not do you well, but there may not be a listening device. Where I work, the phone system has recording features built in. My department doesn’t interface with the public at all, but there’s another department which is essentially a call center. They invested in a phone system used company-wide that serves the call center’s needs. It allows for supervisors to listen into their reports’ calls at any time, live or recorded, without their knowledge. Maybe you can ask around and see if the phone system where you are is similar.
Loquaciousaych* June 19, 2014 at 7:34 pm I might be the nosy one! I really don’t intend to be nosy, truly. I’m just INSANELY curious, about EVERYTHING. I ask a lot of questions (but I do try to be sensitive about not being out of bounds) and I am always reading the company intra-net and have been known to know something before my boss because of it.
Also Curious* June 21, 2014 at 8:32 am I also like to know things. I don’t go out of my way to find them out, I just read what is openly available to read.
Colleen* June 19, 2014 at 7:57 pm My boss had an Administrative Assistant who had access to his calendar and e-mails so that she could look at them when he was out of the office. She was promoted, but apparently never had this access revoked. We found out over a year later when I sent my boss an e-mail with a “return receipt” and the receipt said that she had opened it. I mentioned it to my boss and he handled it. I could never look at her the same way again.
Looby* June 19, 2014 at 8:05 pm I had a coworker who managed to find my birthdate when she was tasked with filing in our managers office, and proceeded to let me know my horoscope each day (not something I ever look at) and even brought me chocolate on days she thought it looked particularly negative!
Vancouver Reader* June 21, 2014 at 5:32 pm If someone wants a reason to give me chocolates, I’ll take it!
Ninja In Training* June 19, 2014 at 8:35 pm YES!!! This is actually very timely. My best friend at work (former boss now peer) has had some family issues recently. He has been out a couple of days to take care of things. Everytime he is out I am asked by his team where he is. Because we are close he confided in me about the situation so I do actually know where he is but I of course am not at liberty to discuss, nor is it anyone’s business! Just today one of his employees asked if his mother was sick. I simply stated I didn’t know and said “we aren’t as close as everyone thinks we are!” I was quite taken aback. I hope it wasn’t apparent that I actually did know. I don’t like to lie but I wasn’t prepared for this question and was frankly shocked that this person has no boundaries!
Lamington* June 19, 2014 at 10:26 pm I stepped out of my office when I found my coworker snooping on my cell phone. It was an old flip phone with no password. She said she wanted to see this model because she had never seen one before.
amapola* June 19, 2014 at 10:26 pm My coworker “Jane” once took me aside and told me that someone else had pointed out to her that I had put on some weight and it looked really good – was there something I’d changed in my routine? Was I eating differently? The icing on the cake is that the sum of my weight gain at the time might have been 5 pounds. Maybe.
amapola* June 19, 2014 at 10:32 pm Oh, and one more: I’m one-half of an interracial couple, and we’re not a really typical pairing in my neck of the woods. We don’t have any kids yet, but we plan to one day, and we’re at an age where people like to ask us what our plans are in that regard. But above and beyond the typical questions about kids is the fact that everyone seems to think they know how our (potential future) kids *should* look, and they’ll describe it to me. This isn’t just limited to coworkers, but it does go on at work somewhat frequently. I’m not really offended, but it’s just kind of … odd.
TrainerGirl* June 19, 2014 at 10:36 pm I don’t know if this qualifies as nosy, but I had a coworker that always wanted to know what I was eating, and expected me to volunteer to giver her some. In fact, one day I had popped some popcorn, and she stared pointedly at me (we sat across from each other) and said, “TrainerGirl, I don’t expect you to make me feel bad for demanding some of your popcorn.” She was constantly mooching food because she was on one of those sugar-free, no carb diets but I guess she thought that the food she mooched from others didn’t count.
Ruffingit* June 19, 2014 at 10:46 pm Wow, she’s a jerk. I hope you said something along the lines of “And I don’t expect you to make me feel bad for refusing your demand.”
Angora* June 20, 2014 at 9:04 pm I had a food moocher years ago. I had a cream horn and he sucked out my cream. He thought he was being funny. I would take a single serving of chips in a sandwich bag for my lunch. He ran over grabbed the bag and threw them into his mouth. They were salt and vinegar chips .. he was standing over the trashcan spitting them out. He stopped after that. He thought I did that on purpose but I like S & V Chips. Recommend you take some to work. I had another co-worker that mooched napkins, Kleenex and plastic spoons all the time. She got paid more than me . At Christmas I got put together a gift basket of all those items. She realized I was giving her a strong hint and laughed. But never mooched again.
another anonymo* June 20, 2014 at 12:24 am Sorry I haven’t read them all- mine is another “I’m female in my 30s and a coworker assumes I’m pregnant.” A coworker (we have both since left THAT place) that I actually liked (and still do, but we aren’t close) was at a work event with me, and lots of other staff. We worked in an office, but this event required us to dress up, so I was wearing a suit. Apparently it fit poorly,and accentuated my “I’m out of shape” belly. I don’t have kids and don’t want to. I’m used to people assuming I can’t wait to have babies. I know my being brown also has something to do with it. (Proud POC here.) Anyways, she says “oh! Why didn’t you tell me? When are you due?” I tried to laugh it off and not embarrass her too much. (Other staff can hear her.) I told her I was just fat, that was all. She insisted not once more but twice more that I was pregnant. Sigh. I just kept repeating myself. Idiot.
Maddy* June 20, 2014 at 7:17 am Can I win? I had a co-worker asked a co-worker I was friends with what I was doing in the bathroom shower so much? Answer: breast pump. Only room with lock. Apparently, I needed it as she was so curious.
JM* June 20, 2014 at 10:00 am I am happy to see that the pregnancy one is very common. I had a coworker with three kids, who had the perfect figure, though slightly challenged vertically. Now, I don’t have the perfect flat tummy which she has. Now this lady used to sit just a few cubes down from me and every single week (or whenever we bump into each other in the coffee room/rest room/corridor etc.) never forgot to ask me this ” Are you pregnant JM? I always think that you are pregnant.” No exaggeration, at least once a week for sure! Once I even told her that I don’t have any plans for another kid and still continued to do this until I left that office.
MaggietheCat* June 20, 2014 at 10:23 am One woman at Ex-Job was pregnant with her first child and was letting the gender be a surprise. She kept a board at her desk for co-workers note their guess – male or female. One nosey (ultra competitive) co-worker called this woman’s doctors office *pretended to be her* and said she changed her mind and wanted to know the gender. The office actually .told. her. and nosey co-worker revealed this information, as well a bragged about how she obtained it, to our entire staff! I felt SO bad for our expectant co-worker.
Ruffingit* June 20, 2014 at 10:40 am That is horrible and I would be turning her into HR. I just cannot even. CANNOT EVEN understand this.
MaggietheCat* June 20, 2014 at 10:47 am Unfortunately ex-job’s HR person ascribed to the “that’s just how X is” mantra and did not take any action against this person. It was such a huge violation of someone’s (personal and medical!!) privacy – not to mention that it was just mean spirited to ruin the surprise. She was really jealous of any young happily married women in our office.
KellyK* June 20, 2014 at 11:18 am Seriously??? She knew which doctor’s office to call *and* they didn’t actually ask for her birthdate before releasing medical info? Wow. Just wow, both at the nosy coworker and at the doctor’s office.
NoPantsFridays* June 20, 2014 at 12:37 pm That’s what I was thinking, the doc’s office should ask for date of birth, but then it occurred to me that perhaps the nosey coworker knew the expectant coworker’s birthdate too! I mean, if they know your birthDAY and how old you are, they can deduce the year. The part that confuses me is that she knew which doctor’s office to call! How did she know that?!
MaggietheCat* June 20, 2014 at 1:36 pm Her doctor’s information was on an emergency contact list, and this woman is an office admin/safety captain. :(
Tami M* June 20, 2014 at 1:39 pm MaggietheCat, Now, I’m no Attorney, but to me, that’s GOT to be illegal! In my opinion, what this woman did was Identity Theft! She obtained the pregnant woman’s personal information without authorization and called her Doctor’s office impersonating her, with the premeditated intent to gain highly confidential information. I can’t see where that wouldn’t be considered a 1st degree offense anywhere! HR should NOT have allowed this to go unpunished! That woman is a lawsuit waiting to happen. I’m just boggled and baffled that the pregnant woman didn’t press charges or seek the advice of an attorney.
Caitlyn* June 20, 2014 at 10:31 am There is a long-time (20 years!) employee in my sector who is notorious for getting into people’s offices and cubes in their absence late in the day or on weekends. This person looks through their stuff, including the boss and the CFO. This individual doesn’t steal; evidently just wants to know what everybody is up to. Knowledge is power? Although this individual has been surprised in the act several times, no punishment or warning, let alone anything stronger, is meted out. My complaint to HR was ignored – I was told that I am too sensitive and shouldn’t let this bother me. This person also got into budget documents that were left open by mistake and talked about people’s pay.
Tami M* June 20, 2014 at 1:52 pm Caitlyn, That is insane! This person obviously has no respect for boundaries. And with HR turning a blind eye, it proves to me they don’t either. I can’t help but wonder how the HR Mgr would feel if this woman were going through ‘their’ things and sharing it with everyone. Personally, I’d feel extremely violated. Whether it’s legal or not, there are Moral and Ethical issues at play here. If it were me, I’d document everything (in case she involves you personally) and maybe even consult your local Dept. Of Labor on the subject. This is just wrong on so many levels it’s got my head spinning. I’m sorry that you’re having to work in an environment that doesn’t expect more from it’s employees.
Leeloo* June 20, 2014 at 10:49 am How about both nosy AND a loudmouth? Female boss obsessed with money, health, and being thin to the point that all others’ worth and performance were judged on these 3 criteria, entirely female office/department staff. Nosy & judgmental boss required full details for any and all outside commitments, especially doctor’s appointments. She wanted to know if it was routine and if so what tests you were having done, if not, what condition do you have, what procedures were being performed, etc. When you returned she wanted descriptions, stories, etc. Worse? she gathered this information from and about everyone she could, added in her own personal opinions of that person and how much they deserved their illness, and then shared the information far and wide across the company. You never knew when the company president would have intimate details about your repeat PAP smears or your kid’s car accident. I had been there not a month when I was made privy to all the gory details about another CW’s hysterectomy…which she had wanted to keep secret, as I also found out later after the entire company knew. Her supervisor and HR were very “meh, she’s not bound by HIPAA because we’re not related to the medical field,” so you just sucked it up and spilled the beans or lied if you had to go to the doctor during working hours. Or you’d go to the emergency clinic after work, or you just don’t go. And if you didn’t provide her desired information, she’d speculate, using all the subtlety of a theater whisper, with other staff in other departments on the most embarrassing things she could think of: sexual problems, mental illness, illness brought on by poor lifestyle. She’s still there, too, and HR is happy to turn a blind eye toward her.
Tami M* June 20, 2014 at 2:11 pm Leeloo, This is beyond insanity! My head is spinning right now. If you look real close at my eyes, you’ll see TILT, TILT, TILT blinking. This just Does Not Compute! There is NOTHING that anyone could say to make this ok. Her behavior goes leaps and bounds beyond comprehension. Nothing less than abhorrent!!! It sounds like you’re no longer at this company….Good for you! Heaven help those who are still there.
jennyanydots* June 20, 2014 at 4:52 pm I’m 11 weeks pregnant and my husband and I haven’t told anyone besides our bosses, parents, and 2-3 very close friends (who know this is confidential until we formally announce) because we’re waiting until the 12-week nuchal to start quietly telling our friends and family. I’m planning on announcing to my immediate co-workers at our next staff meeting, when I’ll be 14 weeks. Well, I’m a pretty slender woman normally, but have been quite bloated this and last week, and look much further along. I have been sucking in my gut at work. However, when I’m on public transit I do become more relaxed and let my abdomen fall out more naturally. Apparently I looked very far along the other day while riding the train on my commute home, and a person who works in another department on my floor noticed me and my bump before I noticed her. Now, a few days later, it seems like the whole floor is looking at me and doing clumsily executed bump-spotting glances. It is extremely nerve-wracking and upsetting to have had this happen because I’m really, really not ready to tell anyone at work yet. I’m still within the risk window of miscarriage and I am sad that this person, whom I don’t even know well at all, decided my news was hers to broadcast in the gossip mill of our floor. (For some background, our company has an internal directory with our photos next to our name. It’s like Chocolate Teapots Facebook. So the rumor mill, uh, mills rumors through quickly.) At this point, I am just gritting my teeth and waiting for people to have the nerve to ask me if I’m expecting. I plan on saying, “Why do you ask?” or just looking at them with a puzzled expression. It is rather disappointing that people have taken it upon themselves to do this, though. Le sigh.
jennyanydots* June 20, 2014 at 4:57 pm (Oh, also, hi all. I read all the time but this is the first time commenting. Sorry to jump in without saying Hi first. Hi.)
Vancouver Reader* June 21, 2014 at 5:39 pm Congratulations! People feel the need to be the bearer of news, good, bad and indifferent. I personally think they do it because they have no lives, but I’m going by my experience with my mother-in-law who’s the North American town crier champion.
Jenny* June 20, 2014 at 5:05 pm My boss is a nice guy, but he tends to be a bit too curious about our personal lives, asking questions/making comments ranging from: “So do you have a boyfriend at the moment?”, “What does your father do for a living?”, to trying to set me up with another coworker (hell no!). However, being too curious is still not his biggest flaw….being a loudmouth about it is. For example, there have been several times when he announce to the rest of us of a coworker’s recent marriage crisis, illness, etc. while the “topic” coworker is not present. I believe that his intention is make us to be more considerate toward our coworker who is going through a crisis…however, I’m not really sure if any one of us would want our personal life to be revealed like that….I definitely try to dodge his questions as much as possible and retrain from sharing with him my personal during chitchat time.
EvilQueenRegina* June 20, 2014 at 6:39 pm My ex-boss once announced in the middle of the office that one of our coworkers was having an affair. I don’t know if that was even true (one person who heard the rumour insisted it wasn’t and Boss had the wrong end of the stick). I don’t know if Coworker ever found out what was said. Another time she announced in a meeting that “Persephone will be off for a few weeks as she’s having a hysterectomy”. Apparently all the men in the meeting didn’t know where to look.
EvilQueenRegina* June 20, 2014 at 6:43 pm My ex-coworker, Philomena, was usually the opposite of nosy. If anything, she overshared about herself but took no interest in anyone else at all. However, she noticed that another coworker, Katrina, took her bag outside with her when she went for a smoke break, and kept making a point of asking “Why are you taking your bag with you?” Katrina tried to ignore it at first but Philomena was persistent. In the end, one day when Philomena said “Ooh, I see you’ve got your bag with you again”, Katrina turned round and said “What’s that got to do with you?” That shut her up.
Jamie* June 20, 2014 at 7:07 pm This would make me want to carry around an empty bag stuffed with crumpled paper – like when you buy a new purse – and guard it territorially just to drive her crazy.
EvilQueenRegina* June 20, 2014 at 7:02 pm Oh, another more recent one. My one coworker, Mags, was keeping a watch on another coworker, Johanna, asking her whether she had enough of a workload and then going to our manager saying that Johanna wasn’t working. Thing was, it really wasn’t that Johanna wasn’t pulling her weight. She’d originally been intended to do some specific work but the team just weren’t generating it for her, and she was supposed to be having training on one computer system but that frequently got cancelled for reasons that were no fault of Johanna’s. Our manager was well aware of this as Johanna had talked to her about it and asked for more work. So for all Mags’s nosying, she still wasn’t getting the full picture.
Erika* June 20, 2014 at 8:03 pm My worst nosy coworker trained me in my last position. She was incredibly rigid and had no sense of discretion. After just a few weeks, my boss trusted me to make a lot of day-to-day decisions about the running of my department (I was a department of one). She, however, was my backup when I was out, and got into the habit of taking over my desk the second I walked out the door for the day (or even for lunch). She would go through all my files, leaving me dozens of little yellow Post-It notes everywhere with what she’d found that I’d done “wrong.” This went on for, literally, almost two years, despite my telling her repeatedly to stop (I was extremely blunt). It only finally ceased about six months before I left this job because we transitioned to new software that I did not teach her to use (with my boss’s blessing).
Anonmousie* June 20, 2014 at 11:40 pm My first day at a new job, I was job-shadowing a very pregnant co-worker. She asked me if I had any kids. I said I did not. She then asked, “Are you planning on having any?” I said I was not. I kept my voice friendly and neutral because I certainly didn’t want her to think I judged people who were planning on children. Didn’t matter. In a very offended tone, she asked me, “Why not?” I didn’t know what to say. When does that particular story ever have a happy ending? At the very best it’s a neutral “We just found that kids don’t suit our lifestyle,” or something. I surely wasn’t going to tell her my actual, very personal reasons, so I mumbled that my husband and I had just waited too long. She asked me how old I was. I told her, because I was so flabbergasted, and this was my first day. I didn’t want to make waves. She told me she had thought I was about three years younger than I actually was. I think I said something really riveting like, “Ah.” I still don’t understand why those few years made a difference for her. Nothing about that conversation made sense to me.
Vancouver Reader* June 21, 2014 at 5:43 pm I would’ve been tempted to tell her that the world is overpopulated as is and I don’t understand why people would want to have kids when the world is going to hell in a hand basket. But that’s just my evil side.
KPoe* June 21, 2014 at 10:38 pm I had a coworker who happened to “knock over” another coworker’s purse and see her resume (a couple of us knew she was looking for another job) and got her fired by telling the boss. She also figured out a way to hack into all the interpersonal email at work. She read other’s emails, and if they were brainstorming ideas amongst each other, she would beat them to the punch and present them as her own. The two people who figured this out and complained to the boss were fired for insubordination.
A. Nonymous* June 22, 2014 at 6:46 pm Not my tale. Two friends of mine worked in a small, four person office. The boss was a busy body and paranoid to boot. She not only searched everybody’s everything any chance she got but would regularly accuse people of “plotting against her.” The friends talked to HR but HR dismissed their concerns. So they decided to play into her snoopy behaviour. They first made sure that anything very personal [wallet, purse, etc.] was never left alone. Then they started leaving “evidence” around the office. Notes in drawers saying things like, “We need to meet to talk about that report on her.” Drawers taped shut with an obvious piece of string to check to see if they’d been opened [they often were, with the string re-taped back on, but in the wrong place]. A random wire left lying near a telephone. Messages in “code” left lying around. One was known for bringing in a book to read on breaks and lunch, and took to bringing in titles along the lines of “How To Spy On Anyone.” At the same time they were job hunting, and both were gone within six months. They found out later that one day the ex-boss went off on her boss, shrieking about how they were all out to get her. Eventually the ex-boss was found to be seriously mentally ill and wound up having to leave on medical disability.
Chris* June 26, 2014 at 8:11 am I have a co-worker who was formerly in my position. He resigned eight years ago to move away, but continues to work on a part-time basis outside of the office. He also comes to the office for one week every 3 months. He has to know everything going on in the office at all times. He goes as far as logging on to my computer after I leave at night to read all of my emails, etc. It is a small office and no one comprehends the concept of “security”. At any time I change my password, he asks for it the next day. He’s not even discreet about what he does. I’m used to it now and it doesn’t really bother me anymore; I guess I’m more amazed than anything.
MH* June 27, 2014 at 12:02 pm One of the secretaries in our office, when it was known that somebody’s wife was dying of cancer, asked him how long she had to live. Poor man just looked at her and walked away.
Daneel* July 4, 2014 at 1:25 pm I am a female employee and recently I was repeatedly asked whether I wanted to have children by a (female) senior manager at my workplace (who I didn’t know very well). She asked me twice out of the blue. The thing is there was a promotion opportunity in my division that was being advertised at the time and this manager was confirmed as one of the interviewers and she expected me to apply for the job. So in light of that, not only was the question personal and invasive, but it was also extremely inappropriate and risky. One would expect a manager with the many years of experience she had, to know better and to understand that her questions could make others think she was planning to use the information to discriminate against female employees. Furthermore, if the person asking is not a close friend, family member (or family physician) then I really think that question shouldn’t be asked. You never know the reason someone might not have children – she could have suffered bereavement, miscarriages or she could have been trying for a long time without success. People need to think – it can be a very sensitive and painful topic for some women (and couples).
Anonymous* July 30, 2014 at 10:08 am I am a reserve member on active duty due to being terminated from my fulltime employer, wrongfully (USERRA issue). I have a member that keeps asking how long is my orders for and what status I am in? She is nosy! I explained to her my orders are week-to-week, I am envolved in some training. How many times does it take me explaining this to a person? UGH! MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
Amber* October 10, 2015 at 12:12 pm I recently have had my boss use an app to break into my cellphone. He gets coworkers to repeat back conversations I’ve had and tells all the coworkers my personal business. He is a awful boss and never even comes to work anymore. That’s made the management team have more work and employees are battling the managers. I no longer have trust for any of my boss’s because they know about it and let it happen. I have been on my job for 8 years and have surpassed my job requirements only to have my boss get bonuses and paid for my work.