New Year’s free-for-all – January 1, 2016 by Alison Green on January 1, 2016 It’s the New Year’s open thread free-for-all! The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on anything that you want to talk about — work-related, not work-related, doesn’t matter. (This thread will be open all weekend and will serve both as the Friday work open thread and the weekend free-for-all.) * If you submitted a question to me recently, please don’t repost it here, as it may be in the to-be-answered queue :) { 1,081 comments }
New Years Turtle* January 1, 2016 at 11:06 am Yep! Working a full day thanks to my company’s super stingy PTO policy.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 11:34 am Nope. I’m binge-watching Hey Arnold! on Hulu Plus and trying to work up the motivation to get up and clean the house. I may not make it. #HelgaRocks
Jessica (tc)* January 1, 2016 at 2:45 pm I love Hey Arnold! I introduced my husband to it several years ago, and now I call him “football head” all of the time. (He doesn’t have a football head, but I can pretend to be Helga anyway, right?)
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 6:11 pm Right! :) Oh man, I forgot ALL ABOUT the Stoop Kid episode!
So Very Anonymous* January 2, 2016 at 12:13 am I love Hey Arnold! too! Arnold is such a great kid. I’ve never been able to watch the first Christmas episode (about Mr. Hyunh) without crying.
Buggy Crispino* January 1, 2016 at 4:49 pm No house cleaning on New Year’s Day …. two reasons (wive’s tales which I absolutely believe since it keeps me from doing yucky things): Anything you do on New Year’s Day, you do all year long, so you don’t want to be slaving away at housework. And, washing and sweeping shouldn’t be done since it washes and sweeps away all of the luck of the new year.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 6:09 pm I do housecleaning all year long anyway, so I really can’t see how that’s different! I wish I could be having loads of hot s3x with a stunning British dude, but that’s not happening, so housecleaning it is! Though I did pause for some F&M Queen Anne blend, made in my English teapot, covered with an F&M cozy, sipped from a replica Titanic third-class cup. :)
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 6:10 pm Besides, I’ll get it all back when I eat some black-eyed peas for supper. :)
Mallory Janis Ian* January 2, 2016 at 12:32 am I ate my blackeyed peas today, but in the form of Pioneer Woman’s blackeyed pea dip served in fried corn tortillas as tacos. My kids didn’t complain about their blackeyed peas this year. Yay!
Panda Bandit* January 1, 2016 at 9:33 pm I tried to clean one room and only made it part of the way. Oh well! At least one table has been cleared off and the bed has clean sheets.
Elizabeth West* January 2, 2016 at 11:56 am Ha, that’s how I usually do it. Clean a little, internet break. Clean a little more, lunch, another internet break. OMG how did it get to be three o’clock, big burst of cleaning before it gets too dark to see.
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 11:52 am Working, but not at work. We had both Thirsday and Friday off this week. I’m bored at home, figured I might as wel et something done. On the couch with my laptop, binge watching Merlin and planning out safety audits for 2016.
Brett* January 1, 2016 at 1:00 pm Yep. Did 16 hours Sunday-Wednesday, 12 hours yesterday, and 12 hours today. I think we will be doing 12 on/12 off until Monday morning. My boss has it worse… he was supposed to be on vacation this whole week and got called in.
Stephanie* January 1, 2016 at 1:29 pm Not working today (but worked yesterday) and I concur. The OT has been nice.
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 1:30 pm Oh yes! I worked a lot during Thanksgiving and Christmas at PT job. Lots of OT, holiday override, and incentive pay. They’ve actually called twice today, but I don’t feel like going in and haven’t answered.
Mallory Janis Ian* January 2, 2016 at 12:37 am One perk of university employee life that I love is that I’ve been off work since December 23 and don’t have to go back until January 4. All but two days of that are paid holidays, and I worked through several lunches in December to keep from having to use two vacation days for the days not covered by holidays. It feels like a free vacation!
Overeducated and underemployed* January 1, 2016 at 2:32 pm Nope, but will be tomorrow. Honestly I would like to call out sick, since I’ve lost my voice and my job is public speaking and customer service, but it is my second to last day and I plan on returning, so I feel like I should just go in.
Elli in Cali* January 1, 2016 at 3:14 pm No, but I worked swing shift last night, and will be working the day shift Saturday and Sunday. Today I’m trying to do the things that I want to do in 2016: exercise, go to more local museums, and improve my work competence. So far I’ve done some continuing education (in pajamas), confirmed the museums are open, and eaten chocolate (still in pajamas) instead of exercising.
Anna* January 1, 2016 at 4:13 pm The best way to make long lasting changes is to ease in to them and make small adjustments daily. Otherwise the shock to your routine is too great and you’re less likely to follow through. I should change my user name to Enabler. :)
Elli in Cali* January 2, 2016 at 3:47 pm The enabling is appreciated! I hit 2 of 3 of the goals yesterday. The continuing ed is something I enjoy, the exercise not as much, until it’s over. That’s going to take more increments to adopt.
Liane* January 1, 2016 at 3:47 pm No, working Sunday, which isn’t usual for production people, but facility was shutdown for holidays since Christmas Eve. I know I have a couple articles I could finish writing and I may have some ready to edit, but tomorrow is soon enough.
Dr. Johnny Fever* January 1, 2016 at 3:47 pm Yep! Saving today’s PTO to use another time. However, I did not have to go into the office.
Sydney Bristow* January 2, 2016 at 8:56 am Had yesterday off, but I’m working from home today (Saturday) and tomorrow off and on for the extra overtime. It’s my choice though so it doesn’t seem as bad. Working on that resolution to make a significant dent in my student loans!
Holly* January 1, 2016 at 11:04 am Happy New Year everyone! I hope everyone got home safe from any festivities they did. Anyone want to share their resolutions?
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 11:20 am I have been trying to do this too. I need to find a conversation partner. (There are plenty of Spanish speakers around here. I just have to find someone who wants to help.)
ExceptionToTheRule* January 1, 2016 at 11:37 am My cousin’s wife is a native Spanish speaker and my cousin is bi-lingual as well. They’ve both offered to help with conversation.
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 12:32 pm There’s a podcast I like called News in Slow Spanish. Sometimes Spanish seems to be so fast because they run all the words together. This podcast gives a newscast (it’s a short one) very slow so you can learn it.
The Other Dawn* January 1, 2016 at 11:11 am I don’t usually bother anymore, but this year I decided to get back on track so I can lose the 20 pounds I regained and then the last 25 pounds to hit my goal weight. (I had weight loss surgery two years ago.) I just have to do it. I eventually want to have the extra skin removed and I can’t do that until I’m close to my goal and stay there for awhile.
Anna the Accounting Student* January 1, 2016 at 3:17 pm I don’t bother anymore, either. If pressed — or if I’m feeling goofy — I say that my resolution is to not make any.
Anna* January 1, 2016 at 4:19 pm I changed how I approach them. They are no long resolutions; they are projects I’d like to accomplish. So I got a new sewing machine for Christmas. One thing I’d like to accomplish this year is to learn how to use effectively. I also will be attempting to accomplish getting the basement cleaned out with my husband. And possibly getting a new job that pays a little more than I make now because although I love where I work, who I work with, and the company I work for, that one last component is missing and that’s becoming more of an issue.
GiantPanda* January 1, 2016 at 11:28 am Must do: Stop letting the job take over my life. Should do: Get fit to take part in the 10K business run in October. This includes losing the weight I recently regained by yo-yoing. Would be Nice to do: Watch less TV (to get more time for reading). Keep my habitat at least semi-clean at all times.
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 11:35 am For my concrete goals: *Finish and publish books two and three in my YA comedic mystery series *Publish three more of my short story collections under my penname *Complete all three of my property technical certifications for my day job For my more abstract resolutions: *Advocate more for myself and others at work *Try to find the best in any crappy situation I find myself in so that I don’t let it bring me down *Expand my work network and just be generally kinder to those I meet there because so many people in my company came to my aide when I really needed it recently, and I never know when I might need that kind of help again
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 11:37 am Yeah. –Lose the weight I gained back after my last trip (it’s not that much) and KEEP it off. –Fix this house up some so I can get out of it. –Publish something. –Find you-know-who and get you-know-what. Oh, and get married too. ;) –Go to Europe. Don’t worry, UK; I still love you! <3
Elsajeni* January 1, 2016 at 12:06 pm My 2016 goals: – Procrastinate less about a particular work task I don’t like. – Dedicate more time to my various crafts and finish at least one project each month. – Dedicate more time to writing and finish at least one project each month. And a bunch of fine-grained weightlifting and fitness goals, but the big ones are: – Deadlift 300 lbs. – Do some stretching and assistance work every day that I’m not at the gym.
Mimmy* January 1, 2016 at 12:10 pm 1. I promised myself to step out of my comfort zone more often – ha! Easier said than done! I’ve been doing it here and there through my volunteer councils, though membership in both are severely lacking, making it hard to get things done as a whole. 2. Find a job, at least part-time to start with since it’s been so long. 3. Find a partner to practice ASL with – I’ve been learning off-and-on since my hubby got me the DVDs last Christmas (2014). 4. Adopt better health habits – yes, many people say this every year. But dang it, I have to try!
nep* January 1, 2016 at 2:17 pm Yay for stepping out of comfort zone. Nearly always yields magnificent results — and often unexpected…opening doors you didn’t know were there. And for healthy habits. All the best to you.
Uni Admin* January 1, 2016 at 11:30 pm Stepping outside of my comfort zone was one of my goals this year, too. Particularly in terms of being more social/making friends. I hope we’re both successful.
BBBizAnalyst* January 1, 2016 at 12:16 pm Do more solo traveling. I did 3 solo road trips this year that I really enjoyed. Definitely want to expand that to more exotic locales this year.
Hellanon* January 1, 2016 at 12:17 pm Get more exercise, see more friends & eat dinner at the table instead of on the couch. … yeah, it’s a low bar this year!
Ann Furthermore* January 1, 2016 at 5:05 pm My resolution is to have us all eat at the table at least twice a week. This will mean keeping the table cleared off. My husband didn’t eat at the table with his family very often when he was growing up. His dad worked nights and his mom worked the swing shift. So for him, eating whenever in front of the TV was the norm, and he doesn’t think it’s that big of a deal. My house was the complete opposite. My mom made dinner every night and we all ate together, so I hate missing that family time. My youngest daughter has activities one or two nights a week, sometimes I get my hair done or a mani pedi after work, and my stepdaughter works a few nights a week too. So eating together every night would be a tall order, but 2 nights a week is doable.
Amber Rose* January 1, 2016 at 12:26 pm More muscle building so I don’t re-injure my ankle. Or worsen I guess, as it still hurts a bit. Do something I find terrifying but would be fun/useful. Last year I got my advanced drivers license, so I guess this year I’ll try go for my first grade for martial arts. Could there be anything more terrifying than 5 people staring grimly at you while you try not to fall over? First I need to qualify to move from wooden weapons to steel ones. Probably this will happen around May. Start renovating. My house badly needs a new front door, a new kitchen floor, a couple coats of paint and the services of an electrician. Possibly join a hooping class with a friend. It looks fun.
Harriet* January 1, 2016 at 12:29 pm Look more polished (I’m actually fine at this first thing in the morning, I’m just terrible at touch-ups throughout day – or at least at lunchtime – to not end up shiny faced with hair sticking up and chocolate on my skirt) Get outside for some daylight and a walk every single day instead of working through lunch at my desk. And the wildcard that I will probably not get around to sorting: get a life outside work. Or at least try not to be so invested and all-consumed by it.
Kimberlee, Esq* January 1, 2016 at 12:43 pm Oooh, if you have shiny-face issues, I have to recommend City Color HD powder. Normally, I’m oily by like noon, but when I wear that (over my other makeup, or by itself) I’m oil-free all day. Only by like 6 or 7 do I start to feel even a tiny bit oily. Changed my life!
Harriet* January 1, 2016 at 3:04 pm Thank you for the recommendation! I have super sensitive skin so I’m really wary of new products, but that definitely sounds like one to try!
AvonLady Barksdale* January 1, 2016 at 3:23 pm I would also recommend blotting paper! You can get it at Sephora. Sometimes it’s available at drugstores, but I think it’s harder to find. This stuff made SUCH a difference for me. In a pinch, you can also tear up a toilet seat cover and blot.
salad fingers* January 2, 2016 at 12:11 pm Viel Glück! I am also trying to hone my crappy college German skills this year, and perhaps unwisely, trying to learn a little Dutch to be able to speak with my Dutch boyfriend and his mom in.
Cb* January 1, 2016 at 12:31 pm 1) Finish the PhD 2) Take a proper holiday with my husband – it’s combined with a conference but in an amazing location so I think it counts 3) Try an aerial yoga class and develop my yoga practice 4) Start TTC
Mallory Janis Ian* January 2, 2016 at 8:28 am My cousin posts pictures on Facebook of her aerial yoga class. She was a cheerleader in high school and always very athletic, though, so not sure how that works for us more physically average types.
Anna* January 1, 2016 at 4:24 pm Oooo, yes. I should add go back to yoga. I love how I feel after yoga.
Overeducated and underemployed* January 1, 2016 at 2:37 pm This is my biggest hope for 2016, but I don’t want to make it a resolution because it feels sort of out of my control. It was also one of my top 3 hopes and goals for 2015 (besides graduate and survive first year of parenthood), but it was the only one that didn’t happen, and making it a resolution makes failure personal.
Nashira* January 1, 2016 at 1:34 pm I plan to earn some tech certifications, start weight lifting again, and learn to cook really good Sichuan food. Part of my Christmas gifts this year was a nearly complete pantry of Sichuan staples – I just need yacai and douchi and to make up red oil and prickly ash/Sichuan peppercorn oil. :D
asteramella* January 1, 2016 at 1:38 pm I’m going to give away or discard 25% to 30% of my belongings–partly because I do better, mentally, with less stuff, and partly because I anticipate moving into a smaller place this spring and will need to downsize.
Shell* January 1, 2016 at 2:20 pm -Learn yoga (first Iyengar lesson starts in a week, yay). -Improve in tidiness. I’ve bought the UfYH app ages ago but still haven’t really gotten into the rhythm. -Go back to fandom…maybe. It’s my oldest hobby and I love it, I still do, but I’ve also lost quite a bit of faith in the fandom community last year. -Be a little more social. 4-5 close friends moved away the past 2-3 years and I haven’t made any new friends since, so my social circle is very spare since I broke up with my ex.
asteramella* January 1, 2016 at 4:03 pm IMO different fandoms have very different communities. It’s tough to find media you love that has a pleasant fandom culture, but I’ve had better experiences in small fandoms for e.g. indie games, indie comics than in large fandoms for mainstream media works.
Shell* January 1, 2016 at 4:50 pm The fandom in question was one of those smaller, supposedly-friendly communities… There were many praises, from myself and others, about how drama-free it was…until it wasn’t. That’s why I’ve lost so much faith as a whole, because it really feels like no matter how small and friendly and accepting it’s supposed to be, it doesn’t really end up that way, not really. Though I’m probably just being a cynic about human nature and totally spoiled by the AAM community.
Lillian McGee* January 1, 2016 at 2:38 pm Not really resolutions, but ideas … I want to stop sitting on the couch playing on my phone so much and so I will think up a few projects to start and *actually finish* …like a new recycled t-shirt quilt, or a few other sewing projects I have in mind. I would also like to ease myself back into drawing stuff. Maybe some writing??? Make myself be creative like I was back in the day when my inner child was more of an outer one…
literateliz* January 1, 2016 at 5:37 pm This is my resolution too: make stuff!! In December I sketched every day (often pretty crappy ones, but still), started writing in my journal again, finished a knitting project I’d been working on for literally years and started another, so if I keep it up I’m golden. It feels more fun and positive than resolutions I’ve made in the past; I’m also trying to recapture a past, more creative self :) I would also like to spend less time on my phone, but I’m a fan of adding things to my life (to crowd out the bad habits) rather than forbidding things. My secondary/slightly more serious resolution is to make time to read every night before bed. Right now I’m an editor who doesn’t read, which is a little sad!
super anon* January 1, 2016 at 2:49 pm Sure! I’ve grouped them into categories for easier reading. Health & Fitness: – Hit 130 lbs or be able to fit into an article of clothing that best fit me ~3 years ago. – Continue getting stronger (I have some gym specific goals for this one) – Hit my step goal on my fitbit at least 5 days out of every week. – Eat less junk food (although I don’t eat that much to begin with, but I could always cut down more!) Intellectual: – Seriously study Mandarin so I can take the HSK Beginner test in 2017. Money & Savings: – Buy myself a Mont Blanc pen for my birthday. – Go on a “replacement only” no-buy for makeup products (Essentially, the only items I can buy are things I currently use and have finished. I can’t purchase any new products I don’t have in my collection for an entire year).
super anon* January 1, 2016 at 2:56 pm Oh, I forgot my work related resolution! It’s to either find a better paying job in a less toxic environment, or do well enough in my job to successfully negotiate a substantial raise to bring me up to market rate for my position .
CrazyCatLady* January 1, 2016 at 5:20 pm I started Mandarin classes at the beginning of 2014 but after 6 months got a new job and got engaged so I didn’t have time for the lessons. I really loved it and want to get back into it though.
super anon* January 1, 2016 at 9:43 pm I studied Korean for a few years and lived in Korea but I was never very good at it. I ended up taking a Mandarin class and I found a lot of it similar to Korean in terms of vocab & grammar, and even easier in some ways. I fell off the horse in 2014 too – so maybe this year can be the year we both pick it back up!
LizB* January 1, 2016 at 3:34 pm I’m going to run a 5k. To accomplish this, I’m going to do the Couch to 5k program, because I am drastically out of shape. I also got one of those journals where you answer a different question every day of the year, and then go through it again five more times so you end up with five years’ worth of answers and can see how your perceptions changed. It’s going to take some dedication to complete it every day, but I’m going to do it!
skyline* January 1, 2016 at 10:24 pm Happy running! Several years ago I set a goal to be able to run a mile without stopping. I did Couch to 5K as part of this. Now I run half marathons, and am trying to do my first full marathon this fall.
LizB* January 2, 2016 at 11:30 am Wow, that’s awesome! I don’t know if I’ll ever be a marathon runner, but I’ve heard many people say that Couch to 5k has turn them from non-runners into people who love running. Here’s hoping it can do that for me too!
Ted Mosbey* January 3, 2016 at 3:23 pm I looooove to run! When you can easily run a 5k at a time you’ll start loving it too i promise!
MsChanandlerBong* January 1, 2016 at 6:08 pm I don’t really have resolutions, but I made a list of personal and professional goals/tasks I want to complete. On the personal side, I want to walk at least 8 miles per week, do something creative at least once per week (I just ordered a pack of canvas, paintbrushes, paint, and a palette), and read at least 50 books. My goal for 2015 was to read 100 books. I hit the goal, but my professional task list is pretty long this year, so I don’t think I’ll have as much free time for reading.
Take Me 2 Atlanta* January 1, 2016 at 6:46 pm Awesome question — Happy New Year to everyone as well! 2015 has had its ups and downs, but I’m definitely ready to tackle 2016. This new energy has made me create some lofty goals for the new year: Overall, I’d say my theme for 2016 is making a commitment to my health and happiness. My biggest goals: – Budget for making my apartment a more comfortable space to live in (Investing in quality furniture, making some splurges on decorations, having more pictures of home/family/friends, etc.) – Do something active everyday – Have a vegetable with every meal – Do more traveling (I’m several hours from some great cities and new job is so supportive of taking time off) – Read more (Bought myself a Kindle for Christmas. Probably the best $50 I’ve spent in a while) – Become more crafty (This coincides nicely with making my apartment more comfortable!) – Be more active in the AAM community. I’ve only commented a handful of times, but I’ve actually been following the website everyday since 2008 (Has it really been 7 years?!). So a big thank you to all of you and Alison!
skyline* January 1, 2016 at 10:23 pm – Run my first marathon – Be an adult and take care of estate planning (will, durable power of attorney, health care directive) – Take a class in something fun and new (right now I’m looking at swing dancing or cooking classes)
Mallory Janis Ian* January 2, 2016 at 12:43 am I’m going to focus on my relationship with my husband: getting back some of the intimacy, calling to set up marriage counseling appointments. I have some things I’ve been holding against him about the way our marriage works, and it’s time to become unstuck.
Former Retail Manager* January 3, 2016 at 4:13 pm Kudos to you! That’s a tough thing to admit, even anonymously. Best of luck to you!
misspiggy* January 2, 2016 at 8:06 am Continue with the project of putting my health first, rather than last. It’s amazing how long this is taking, but the more I do it, the easier it is to rebuild the rest of my life, as physical suffering is reduced. This year in particular, I’m going to stop thinking I should reduce the amount I eat post-Christmas, so long as plenty of healthy food is included. I’ve just fattened myself up for the winter, no point in trying to reverse that until it gets warmer.
Fish Microwaver* January 2, 2016 at 9:59 am I am going to participate in an ocean swim and learn the ukulele.
KitCroupier* January 2, 2016 at 8:59 am Two small things I want to do every day: Donate or throw away one item (at least) or a full bag of trash I’ve picked up that day. Do at least one 20/10 (more is great, but one is minimum) http://www.unfuckyourhabitat.com/ is so great A few BIG goals: Run/Walk 1000 miles in a year, run a half marathon, save $1 for every mile I run. What I’ve learned through the years is to set the bar low for resolutions. Too high and when we inevitably miss we get frustrated and give up. But it’s been two days and I’m still on track! (1.5 miles down, 9998.5 to go!)
Sunflower27* January 2, 2016 at 11:33 am 1) Have a successful IVF cycle or find peace that I may not be able to have another child. We’ve had a rough year – one miscarriage at 9 weeks, one ectopic and 5 other cancelled cycles. 2) Complete some home improvement projects: replace all sinks in kitchen and bathrooms, have sprinkler system installed.
Ted Mosbey* January 3, 2016 at 3:33 pm I’m not into specific new years resolutions because I always feel like if I really cared I wouldn’t have waited for a random date in the middle of winter. No offense meant to people who do them! They just don’t work for me personally. I do periodically ask myself what I want my life to look like and set goals based on that. The past nine months were travel abroad, take the GMAT, and work with a personal trainer. Now working on: -Apply to at least 3 GMAT programs -Submit at least 3 poems for publication -Get back on the water at least once or twice a month (former rower, always missing it!) -Hit my fitbit goal 5 days a week -Turn 27, celebrate one year with my amazing boyfriend and BECOME AN AUNT! I was always super athletic growing up and even played sports in college. The past few years my health and fitness level have really been slipping. A knee injury while training for a race took away my favorite hobby: running. Ever since that it’s been weight gain city. I want something to change, but I’m not sure exactly what or how.
Is my department falling apart?* January 1, 2016 at 11:06 am I’ve noticed a lot of oddities at my company recently that has me concerned about the security of my department. 1) Our most senior analyst of 25 years left the company. 2) Our director left the company a month after that. 3) The rest of our most senior analysts were transferred to a different department practically overnight and with no warning. 4) The managers in our department are not in the know. 5) Another department recently created a new team which appears to overlap significantly with ours. In fact they even used our job description to post a new position. The only news we have from this is that “it will be different” but that our managers are “still looking for clarification”. This has me concerned that our department will be phased out or dissolved. Does anyone have experience with situations like this? If the worst should pass, will there usually be some notice (like a least a month’s) or will it be quick and overnight like what happened with our senior analysts?
BRR* January 1, 2016 at 11:14 am It’s tough to really know what is happening. Even if it’s the worst there’s not telling how your company will handle it. I found out that if my company lets someone go for any reason, they cannot tell them until their last day. If I were in your shoes I’d probably start doing at least some job hunting.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 11:39 am Yeah, I agree. This would make me nervous too. Of course, it may still be fine. If you end up not needing a new job, then yay–if you do, or it looks as if you will, you’ve got a head start on seeing what’s out there.
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 11:38 am Update your résumé and start looking in the event that the worst does happen – you’ll at least be prepared.
Lee Ann* January 1, 2016 at 2:05 pm Ditto to that. Something similar happened where I worked and my manager only found out when someone up above him accidentally left some paperwork right out in the open. Then they told him not to tell us that our group would be dissolved and we’d be reassigned- so he immediately came and told us. (Best manager ever!) This was a smallish software company during a tech boom (pre-“dot-com booms”) and you just had to wave your resume in the direction of a recruiter to have half a dozen interviews lined up – which we all did, and got much better jobs by the time upper management deigned to admit it.
Paige Turner* January 1, 2016 at 12:43 pm Someone here (Alison or another commenter- if anyone remembers, let me know!) gave some really good advice recently- if you’re worried about being laid off for whatever reason, you should start preparing as if it will happen, because you really can’t know for sure. If someone tells you not to worry, they might be wrong or not able to tell you; the only definitive answer you’ll get ahead of time is, “yes, your job is at risk.” So go ahead and start looking now. (Not to say that you shouldn’t ask for advice, but I wouldn’t put too much weight in any answer that tells you everything’s fine). Good luck and keep us posted!
Valar M.* January 1, 2016 at 1:19 pm Start looking elsewhere. These are a lot of yellow and possibly red flags. If they’re doing this much and the company doesn’t have the awareness to realize how it looks and reassure you – that’s still concerning, even if nothing terrible is about to happen.
Dr. Johnny Fever* January 1, 2016 at 4:02 pm Been there. Your department is about to be made redundant. Depending on org size, you’ll have 3-6 months to get out. Maybe. Some places give immediate notice, others only give a few weeks. Given the previous analysts, you may receive immediate warning and immediate dismissal. You may or may not receive severance pay. You may or may not be offered a chance to post to a different position, or receive special treatment as a laid-off employee. If you have insurance, you’ll need to COBRA it. That will be expensive, so be prepared to shoulder that cost. File for unemployment if you do not get severance; file for FICA exception if applicable. I received a packet with my options – hopefully, your company will as well. If you have a company intranet, discreetly search for HR policies around reduction in force, displacement, layoff, redundancy, or whatever your company calls the practice. Brush off your resume and start looking. It’s a new year; you’ll likely know by end of quarter what will happen, if not sooner. Assume that your job is going away. In interviews, you may mention the circumstances or focus on your own development goals. Alison has several articles here from readers in the same boat who aren’t sure how to explain why they are looking for a new position. Should you still have your current job when you land a new role, give two weeks notice and no more. You may be feeling remorse and a surge of loyalty – I did, which felt odd. Don’t compel yourself to dive into work, go above and beyond, and try to help save a sinking ship. Stick to your 40 hours, produce at quality, and focus your jitters into the job search or developing a new skill. Ignore the office rumor mill if you can; if you can’t, don’t contribute to it. Best of luck. Steel yourself and try to stay positive, because the next couple months will be stressful and you may be working under a lot of ambiguity. Take care of yourself as much as you can. Find a hobby, grab a good coffee, get a mani/pedi or do something else that you enjoy; treat yourself occasionally to help get through the tension with your sanity intact. Talk to family and friends who are supportive. Luckily, you have some warning to get ready – look at this as your opportunity to reinvent things or change the old routine. When it happened to me, I didn’t see it coming. Take advantage of the time you have.
asteramella* January 1, 2016 at 4:06 pm If you’re laid off, you don’t necessarily need to opt for COBRA coverage through your former employer’s plan. You can go to the insurance Marketplace instead. If you don’t have specific medical needs that are met by your employer-sponsored plan, the Marketplace can be a better (and much cheaper) option, especially if you qualify for premium subsidies.
bob* January 1, 2016 at 10:33 pm I hate to sound like the prophet of doom but now is the time to backup any personal stuff, including contacts on your computer, and elsewhere. A piece of advice I got from a tech lead once was to never have more in your desk than you can carry out in 1 box under 1 arm. It came in handy later!
The Artist Formally Known As UKAnon* January 1, 2016 at 11:10 am So, I have a sort of work-related question. I have to do a presentation (outside work) and I have been told to treat it as a “business presentation”. I have to produce a Powerpoint to go with it. What I’m stuck on is what to do about the slides. Just leaving them black and white feels like I haven’t put enough effort in, but I know better than to use most of the standard Microsoft backgrounds that are incredibly gaudy and distracting. I’ve settled for something in-between – it’s a standard one – cream with a thick black line down the left hand side (apart from title pages, which have a thick black border made up of two corners of a square). Is this still too cartoony/distracting and I should just stick with black and white, or should I have some sort of background and something neutral like this is ok?
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 11:40 am That actually sounds really nice. Ours have to be on a company template. Outside work, I try to stay away from anything too crazy, but that sounds nice and subtle.
azvlr* January 1, 2016 at 11:41 am You can download other backgrounds. Search for “free PowerPoint backgrounds”. Microsoft even has some available. On the other hand the simpler your background the better. Yay for doing this! Your audience will appreciate it.
FutureLibrarian* January 1, 2016 at 12:09 pm For future powerpoints, consider using Prezi. I was introduced to it in a college course, and they offer a lot of options for backgrounds that are open to use. If I remember correctly, they also will auto-cite ones for you that require credit. I also found it looked nicer than Powerpoint for me personally…but that’s definitely up to each individual!
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 12:59 pm I like Prezi a lot. Unfortunately, I don’t have a need to use it these days, but it’s much nicer than Microsoft PowerPoint.
Clever Name* January 1, 2016 at 1:04 pm Prezi is really cool. My son has used it for school. The only caveat is I think they are all publicly accessible unless you have a pay account.
asteramella* January 1, 2016 at 1:41 pm Prezi can be good, but some of the more swoopy/dynamic transitions can make your audience motion-sick.
AnonInSC* January 1, 2016 at 2:08 pm Does Prezi still require web access to use/present? That has been a problem for me in the past – many times I can’t count on internet access and need a ppt on a jump drive just in case.
FutureLibrarian* January 1, 2016 at 11:06 pm They claim to offer a desktop app, but that doesn’t really make it portable (it also isn’t clear whether or not that is included in the free version). I wish it were! I’ve thankfully only needed it in classroom situations where wifi was a given.
Shannon* January 1, 2016 at 12:21 pm Your background sounds fine. Remember, you don’t want your slides to distract from what you’re saying.
grumpy career changer* January 1, 2016 at 12:46 pm I generally use a very simple background – often a light grey or a blue pastel that changes on a gradient from light to very light from the top to the bottom of the slide. Very basic. And I’ve only ever gotten positive comments about how it looks clean and how it’s relatively accessible to people with low vision. (Well, what’s accessible is the black text, large, and not much of it, that can be read against this background very easily.) Go simple. Good luck!
Short Geologist* January 1, 2016 at 1:11 pm I’m a big fan of non black and white presentations because they can cause eye strain and migraines. So a cream background sounds good, and I’d recommend dark blue or green (or brown) text.
Valar M.* January 1, 2016 at 1:22 pm That sounds good! Microsoft has a few – maybe 3? that still have some style to them but aren’t distracting. They add enough variation to keep it interesting – I just usually find a more muted color palette, or update it so that instead of 7 different colors there are only 3 in the same family. FWIW, I don’t think black and white is a good option either. To me it does look a little sloppy and I also find it hard on my eyes.
Stephanie* January 1, 2016 at 1:32 pm I think you’re overthinking it. What you have sounds fine. It just needs to look like you did more than the bare minimum, but not have spinning WordArt. It sounds like it meets those criteria.
Harriet Vane Wimsey* January 1, 2016 at 2:46 pm Has anyone seen Life After Death by PowerPoint by Don MacMillan on YouTube? Hysterical!!!!
Onnellinen* January 1, 2016 at 4:11 pm The book Slideology by Nancy Duarte really helped me think about good, eye-catching (and uncluttered) layouts for slides. Highly recommended. Link to an online excerpt to follow. Not quite what you were asking about, but it’s my go-to resource to make my PowerPoints look good, so I thought I’d pass it on!
FTW* January 1, 2016 at 6:28 pm I would keep it simple with colors. The cream and black is fine, or consider white background, black text and separation lines of a primary/secondary color. I would put a thin horizontal line to separate title from slide body, and another thin line to separate side body from footer. Suggest avoiding and horizontal lines because they take up real estate.
Betty (the other Betty)* January 1, 2016 at 7:11 pm Especially in a dark room, a dark background (navy blue, dark green, something like that) with white or very light text works well, looks professional, and is easier on the eyes than a bright white background.
The Artist Formally Known As UKAnon* January 2, 2016 at 2:29 am Thank you for all of the feedback! I am reassured about my background choice, so I think I will stick with that – and I’m glad to know that my instinct to avoid black and white was spot on. I’ve been asked to bring it on a memory stick, with email as a backup, so unfortunately I don’t think Prezi would be suitable, but I’d never heard of it before so it’s still useful to know.
Lillie Lane* January 1, 2016 at 11:12 am Has anyone broken up with their therapist? I’d like some advice on how to do it well.
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 11:27 am I’ve broken up with someone after just a few appointments – enough to give them a fair chance, but also enough to know that this isn’t the person for me. But that’s different than breaking up with a long-term therapist. Why are you breaking up? You could just say that you don’t feel like you need to come as often but you’ll call when you need to. If that’s the case, I think most therapists would understand that. If you are quitting because of money, tell them that. They will understand. Also, they might be willing to work with you if that the reason and you want to continue.
Lillie Lane* January 1, 2016 at 11:30 am I’m breaking up because I’m not getting anything out of it. My therapist talks a lot about studies he’s read (I think he thinks of me as an intellectual peer rather than a patient/client) and it’s getting old. He isn’t really helping me with new techniques.
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 11:46 am Have you told him this? If you haven’t, I’d try being direct with him first by saying what you said about him seeing you more as an intellectual peer as opposed to someone he’s supposed to be helping, and while you appreciate him seeing you as a smart and engaging conversationalist, that’s not what you’re paying him for. If you have said something and he’s still doing this, just tell him that you think it’s time to move on because you’ve gotten everything you can out of his sessions.
Lillie Lane* January 1, 2016 at 12:02 pm Thank you, I think you hit the nail on the head with that wording!
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 12:12 pm You’re welcome. I had to have this same conversation with one of my previous therapists – it was hard, but he understood.
Lucina* January 1, 2016 at 12:31 pm Would you mind to explain what you mean as breaking up? I have seen a therapist for a few years and I think we did good progress, but at a certain point I realised that I did not want to go anymore, and I just stopped. I think I had good reasons: I had to take significant time off from work to see him (we are in 2 different European countries and long weekends add up), I felt better, and I wanted to focus on something else (new job), so I needed the time and money. I still feel guilty about stopping abruptly, and I’m trying to understand if I really did something bad.
Anna* January 1, 2016 at 4:31 pm I think you’re okay. It’s a relationship but therapists are professionals and know their clients will move on in a variety of ways and for a variety of reasons.
Ruffingit* January 1, 2016 at 5:20 pm As a therapist, I wouldn’t say you did something really bad, but it does help us to know that someone is going to stop coming so we can do some transition work with you if necessary or so we can discuss why you want to stop and what we may have been able to do better as therapists. Whenever a client abruptly stops coming, we do wonder if there is something we could have done better for them and it helps to hear the truth no matter how difficult it might be for you to say it. It helps us grow as professionals. It’s not that you owe your therapist an explanation, that is certainly not the case. But, if you can give one, it helps us and if you can at least call or email to say you won’t be coming anymore, that is a big help. For many reasons, but a major one is so we know you didn’t have some kind of horrible accident or commit suicide or whatever. And yes, we do worry about those things when clients just abruptly disappear.
The Butcher of Luverne* January 2, 2016 at 9:09 am You could send him/her a note with a brief explanation and thanks.
Audiophile* January 1, 2016 at 1:27 pm I stopped seeing a therapist because I felt like I wasn’t getting much out of it. She was more scattered than I was and I can be really scattered. She was late for appointments and this was when I was rushing from my college campus to get to her on time. She’d wait to deposit checks, which drove my mother crazy and at least once she misplaced a check and wanted another one. I eventually found the right therapist for me, interestingly enough, she was my mother’s therapist at the time. My mom voluntarily stopped seeing her. I was seeing her regularly for a while but stopped because I kept running into insurance issues. I saw her about 8 months back and paid her directly, she offered me a fair rate since we know each other. She provides good advice, in my opinion, but she really just lets me talk through whatever’s going on. The last time I saw her, it had been more than a year since we’d seen each other and I was having a bit of a crisis, she let me go through it and I left feeling better.
Ruffingit* January 1, 2016 at 5:23 pm Your therapist’s behavior with being late, scattered, not depositing checks, etc. is entirely inappropriate and you were smart to let that person go. Anyone is therapy is already having some issues, they don’t need someone who doesn’t respect their time or their money.
Audiophile* January 1, 2016 at 7:14 pm It was hard, because it was my first experience going to therapy as an adult (or almost adult since I was still in college). I don’t even remember what explanation I provided. I remember an awkward situation where I ran into her at a bookstore, though. She wasn’t late often, but it was enough to annoy me, especially since I was rushing all the way there from school and that ate into my time, it really bugged me. But losing the check was what made my mom go “please stop seeing this woman.”
Nashira* January 1, 2016 at 2:59 pm I don’t know how well it was for them, but I’ve broken up with three therapists because I got exhausted educating them about what life as a queer trans person w/ chronic pain was like. I just told them I “was feeling better” and didn’t make more appointments. It took too much energy to try and explain, so… I didn’t.
QualityControlFreak* January 1, 2016 at 11:20 am Right? I’d swear she’s waiting for the human to bring in her breakfast tray.
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 12:11 pm We must be doing something wrong — our cats have always known they are cats, and they also know they are below us in order. Of course, my spouse keeps telling them they are cats and we own them. My pillow pet almost sleeps like Eve there, except I’m usually wrapped around her.
NewDoc* January 1, 2016 at 11:16 am Work-related question here: I will be finishing up residency in six months (yay!) and just found out where my husband will be relocated too, so it’s time to start actual, normal-people job hunting as opposed to standardized application systems. I’ve received advice from multiple people, including our program director, that I should call the practices I’m looking at, even if they don’t have a job opening posted, during the work day, and ask to speak to the business manager or one of the physicians and then present myself and ask about openings. This seems like such an annoying idea to me — both from reading AAM and from my experience working in busy clinica I feel like that would be so annoying — but it’s advice coming from many people. Do you think that can possibly be just how things work in this area? (I’m applying for a position in a subset of primary care in a medium-sized US city, if that helps. I also have confirmed with multiple people working in private practice in different locations that some practices just don’t post openings and wait to get the “right” resume just by happenstance or through connections.) Right now my plan is to give all these networking connections I’ve emailed a bit of time after the holidays before I do any of these phone calls — but if I do go the phone call route, any suggestions for scripts?
DebbieDebbieDebbie* January 1, 2016 at 2:26 pm Congratulations NewDoc! Cold calling practices is not great advice. While it may randomly pay off, it’s not only labor-intensive and emotionally exhausting for you; it is also annoying and disruptive to busy people. Most of our successful, good-fit hires (specialty practice) have come to us through networking. Second to that, we would use a recruiting agency. Have you considered using a recruiter in your target city? If you don’t want to go that route, would you consider a Locums Tenens assignment until you get the “lay of the land” of your new city and build a local network?
Pretend Scientist* January 1, 2016 at 7:44 pm I agree. I work with a group of ophthalmologists and our most recent hire came from our surgical fellowship program.
NewDoc* January 2, 2016 at 2:01 pm A recruiter is a good idea — I had been hesitant because in my previous experience with recruiters it seems they want you to be available by phone during hours when I’m usually at the hospital, but maybe that was just this particular one. Thanks for the advice and confirmation of my instincts — I will continue to hold off on cold calling!
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 11:18 am A candidate for US Senate recently posted this job announcement . I don’t know what kind of applicants he will get, but it gave me a good chuckle. I need a new assistant immediately. Requirements: – Cannot be a friend of mine. Familiarity makes for horrible pace and work quality. – Must be between the ages of 18 and 32. People who are older eventually let surface their repressed resentment at being told what to do by someone younger than them. – Must be at least semi-attractive, whether male or female. You will be my personal representative, and people will judge me based on your appearance. – Must be intelligent. This is a fast-paced job demanding independent thought and resourcefulness. – Must live in Orlando. Long commutes always turn out poorly. – Must take oaths of loyalty and secrecy. You will be my right hand, with all that implies.
The Artist Formally Known As UKAnon* January 1, 2016 at 11:23 am I think the last one is where it went from ‘funny, unintentionally or not’ to ‘creepy run away’.
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 11:50 am Yeah, I’m thinking, “Does he want someone to help him bury the bodies?! Or at least not tell anyone where he put them?” Then the whole, must be semi-attractive thing – yup, he’ll be great to work for.
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 12:44 pm I wasn’t going to say this until you mentioned burying the bodies. This guy has admitted publicly to being investigated by “the FBI , US Marshalls, and other law enforcement” but he hasn’t said why. He acknowledged that he sacrificed a goat and drank its blood. He said he would either start or be the cause of the Second American Civil War. He has expressed support for a eugenics program. So yes, the bury bodies thing isn’t too far fetched. I thought everyone on this board, though, would get a kick out of the job posting. We should at least give him credit for being completely honest about what he’s looking for.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 1:51 pm I’m thinking he might be one of those people who isn’t so much publicly admitting to be investigated as publicly bragging, possibly falsely, about it. Because he’s that much of a maverick, dammit.
F.* January 1, 2016 at 2:22 pm I remember reading about him and the goat blood. He seems to believe that any publicity is good publicity.
Anna* January 1, 2016 at 4:34 pm Oooooohhhhh, I know who you’re talking about. Question: Are US Senators somehow immune to laws on age discrimination?
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 5:40 pm I can’t imagine he’s immune. Right now, he’s not a senator. He’s just a private citizen who is looking to hire an assistant. A political campaign is a private business, not a government business. I guess it never dawned on him that he is violating the laws of the country. Or maybe, he knows, but doesn’t care. He is planning to start the next civil war, so maybe part of his platform is that we should bring back age discrimination.
Maybe Tomorrow* January 1, 2016 at 7:17 pm Lolol he’s trying to replace Rubio. I dont think the job posted will be very long term.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 1, 2016 at 5:47 pm They are not. Interestingly, they used to be, but the Congressional Accountability Act, enacted in 1995, made congressional offices subject to the Age Discrimination in Employment Act, the ADA, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, the Fair Labor Standards Act, FMLA, and some other big ones.
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 11:29 am Sadly, it’s not a joke. This guy is crazy, even for Florida politics. I’m 99% positive that the age thing is illegal. You’d think a senatorial candidate would know that.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 12:19 pm I hope he gets candidates who are excited about the oath thing and want to do it in blood. This has potential for exponential Floridian bizarreness.
doreen* January 1, 2016 at 12:29 pm Maybe. Remember, it’s common for laws to apply differently to public employers- and what’s even more common is for elected officials to be exempt from laws that apply to even public employers. Although it’s still crazy to put in in writing.
Hellanon* January 1, 2016 at 12:22 pm Ewww – I’m glad somebody else went there with that last line (and not just me)!
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 12:33 pm I felt like such a jr. higher when I started laughing at that line. :)
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 1:25 pm I can’t help myself. I have to say this. 1) Friends. This is probably not a big problem. 2) Ages. I guess he must be 33? 3) “But you can’t be prettier than me.” 4) “Must be intelligent.” How will he be able to gauge that? 5) Orlando. I hope he did not waste money on a nationwide ad. 6) Remember the expression about the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing?
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 6:19 pm I just looked him up. He seems like a total whacko. But scarily, he LOOKS completely normal.
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 6:56 pm Can you imagine if he looked crazy, but his job ad said you have to be attractive to work for him?
DebbieDebbieDebbie* January 1, 2016 at 2:33 pm Requirement #4: If you are intelligent enough to get the job, you are intelligent enough to know you’d better not apply!
Pineapple Incident* January 4, 2016 at 8:47 am This is everything wrong with U.S. politics, written down, on purpose.
Lulu* January 1, 2016 at 11:24 am If you leave a job due to ethical reasons, is it ever okay to tell your new employer this was the reason why you left? I am concerned about how things will go during employment verification since my leaving was a bit messy.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 12:24 pm Can you clarify when you’re talking about doing this, and what it is you might need to give them info about? (And are you in a field where employment verification is a regular thing? Because it’s not always.)
Lulu* January 1, 2016 at 12:40 pm I’m not even sure if there will be employment verification, but I’m concerned. I work in the mental health field. I just want to explain to my new employer that my old employer might not have such kind things to say about me due to my sudden leaving.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 1:03 pm I’m still not sure where you are in the process, though. You’re referring to them as “new employer”–so you’re not an applicant but you’ve accepted the offer? Or are you talking about prospective employers? And is there anybody from there that you’ll be using as a reference, or are your references from elsewhere? How long did you work there, and how long were you in the field before that? In general, you go with Shannon’s approach–basically, things changed and you left–but there might be more specific needs depending on the situation, your history, etc.
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 1:43 pm Ugh. Okay, if you are in a more or less rural area or an area with not many services in the MH field, other employers in the MH field already know about your former employer. This means they probably won’t ask you that much. Or they may just state that they get a lot of applicants from your previous employer, to kind of cue you that “it’s okay”. These cues do not really mean “talk about it with us”, the cues mean more like “We know why you left, you don’t have to explain. Let’s focus on this new job here.” They may just confirm employment with your previous employer and disregard any commentary your previous employer might have. You might find it helpful to know what type of reputation your former employer has with 1) people in the same field and 2) the area in general. These can be two different answers.
Shannon* January 1, 2016 at 12:26 pm Of course. There are ways to tell your new employer that you left for ethical concerns without saying that directly. Saying that you were leaving because you and the company were going in different directions, or something like that. Depending on whether or not your ethical concerns are also public knowledge (ie: the business is being investigated) you may actually want to address that.
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 12:53 pm I’ve left a place for ethical reasons and I couldn’t find any upside to telling them why. I just said it wasn’t a good fit, or some other sort of vague reason. My rationale was the that telling them the real reason might hurt me, but would in no way help me. And telling them my vague reason wouldn’t hurt me or help me.
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 1:16 pm Two things: 1. if I said “I’m leaving because I think this place is full of lying crooks,” then I would likely have to listen to all the reasons why the company is not full of lying crooks. That’s not really harmful to listen to it. It’s just not something that I want to get into. 2. The other thing is that if I said the company is full of lying crooks (I wouldn’t use that exact verbiage), then they would think that I was a disgruntled employee who was frustrated about something else and didn’t want to say it. I didn’t want them to tell a future reference that, “She started off as a good employee, but then began spreading rumors about the company being lying crooks.” It just seemed safer to say I was leaving for another opportunity, or it wasn’t the right fit, or something similar. Usually, if the company culture is unethical (as opposed to one unethical employee), they don’t see it as unethical. They have justified this in their mind that “It’s OK to overcharge on hours because our rates are low” (or whatever the situation is). They have somehow justified this as being ethical, so your pointing it out isn’t going to help any. That’s how I approached it.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 1:23 pm When you’re talking to people who don’t know you, they don’t know whether you’re somebody who routinely badmouths others or who has a legitimate complaint or concern; they don’t know whether you’re inventing or overreacting to stuff and would do the same about the new job, or whether you were pushed to the limit by practices that were borderline illegal. I think there’s a common impulse for people, when they left in a way they didn’t expect because of bad stuff at the job, to want to make it clear that it wasn’t their fault. Which is understandable, but the explanation isn’t going to have the direct effect or credibility that one might hope, so you actually want to be very sparing with such an explanation–it makes it clearer you’re in the reasonable category.
Lulu* January 1, 2016 at 1:33 pm very good point. everyone is telling me to just tell the truth about this place, but I don’t want to make myself look bad in the process. Of course it’s not a lie if I say it was a bad fit.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 1:43 pm Right, there are lots of true things that can be said. Some of which will work better in the situation than others :-).
Sherm* January 1, 2016 at 1:13 pm I think the odds of them hearing anything negative about you are small. For one, at this stage, they might just want to verify that you indeed were truthful about when and where you worked.
Lulu* January 1, 2016 at 1:30 pm Yeah true, but it was a very small office where everyone knows each other. IE, no real HR dept. So the person who handles that stuff may be prone to gossip.
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 1:53 pm I know stuff like this can seem huge, but it might work into a non-issue. I know in the past people have suggested having a friend call pretending to check references and then report back to you what was said. I have never done that personally, although once in a while I did think about it. I do know that once the ethics issue hits the newspapers, interviewers quit asking questions about Old Job.
Lulu* January 1, 2016 at 1:58 pm So I don’t need to worry about giving a heads up that this place might be negative toward me? Obvs it supposed to be just verification, but you never know what they’d say.
misspiggy* January 2, 2016 at 8:22 am Only if the friend test reveals they’re out to get you. Even then, you’d need to be careful how you phrase it, for the reasons discussed above. If you’ve already said at interview that you left because of differences in work culture/fit, that should be enough of a clue that a negative reference should be viewed with some scepticism. Of course, if the friend finds out that they’re saying untrue things, you could consult a lawyer about possible defamation.
Mando Diao* January 1, 2016 at 4:27 pm Could you say something like, “Their approaches didn’t quite line up with my education and my personal preferences when it comes to how mental health is treated.”
azvlr* January 1, 2016 at 11:36 am I posted an ad on Craigslist for a drummer for my band. Our last drummer was drunk and belligerent on a regular bases. On the other hand, while it’s not my thing at all, our bass player can handle his weed. In the ad, I wrote “We are not ones to judge, but please don’t let your habits interfere with making great music.” I got a reply back, not for an actual drummer (darn), but feedback complimenting me on addressing this touchy subject, which is not uncommon with musicians. I realized I had AAM to thank for the wording in my ad!
Be the Change* January 1, 2016 at 11:39 am Send some good thoughts my way, won’t you? I wrote last week that my Christmas was a bummer, but this holiday week has gone from being a bummer to being actively upsetting and distressing. First, my husband’s father zapped him for the zillionth time, implying that he’s an irresponsible goof-off screw-up. It’s not true, not even a tiny bit, but my f-i-l is a born critic and he never listens so it’s impossible to explain anything to him. So that made me furious and sad. Second, I became aware of a piece of casual cruelty that outraged me, and enraged me, beyond all reason and logic. It’s the kind of thing that happens thousands of times every day all over the world, but it happened at my garden gate so I saw it this time. I have not cried so much in more than 15 years. I did manage to alleviate the situation temporarily, but that comes with its own problems and I hope to God I haven’t made things worse in the long run. I’m working on a longer term solution but it’s going to be very hard. (I’m not describing the situation because I don’t want to put the pictures in your heads.) So… yes, Happy New Year; can we please have a better 2016 than 2015?
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 2:05 pm I am so sorry. One grief (sadness) seems to make a second grief (sadness) even huger. And what is worse, is our inability to make clear and immediate changes in either situation. Which leads to a third item to grieve over, our own powerlessness. As I read, I think your FIL is also a piece of casual cruelty, so I am seeing that as a common thread in the two situations here. It’s an odd twist that I have found, rarely do our actions make things worse. If you dragged a secret out into the light of day, that is not worse, that is better. Yes, it creates some hub-bub for a while, then the dust settles. Likewise, if you showed a spotlight on something that is under everyone’s nose. Yes, there is some upheaval, but in time it settles. Keep your chin up. Good vibes heading out to you!
misspiggy* January 2, 2016 at 8:28 am It sounds like in both cases you bore witness on the side of right and kindness. Which is often very painful when one can’t change the overall situation, hence why so few people do it. But it’s vitally important, and I think you can feel very proud of yourself for making the world a better place.
Be the Change* January 2, 2016 at 10:59 pm Thank you guys, you are all so kind! I am realizing that when you want to do right and be kind, you also need some *skill* in the situation. I’m quite concerned that in the second case, which is more serious, I have not acted with skill. I’ve embroiled several people in a situation that I won’t have time to follow until its end. I’m praying that there won’t be some kind of total ass explosion. Also hoping this won’t dissuade me from wanting to be kind the next time! Re my husband’s father, he is a very good man who deeply wants things to be “right” for his family. Hah, though, we come back to skill. He’s not very skillful at it, never was, and now he’s pushing 90. And he knows *nothing* about people.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 2:04 pm Re: “some *skill* in the situation”…. How do you get that skill? You start out small, and you practice. Kudos to you for getting started. And I’ll take your word for it, that perhaps you didn’t act with skill. But you acted, and that has to be better than doing nothing, and letting casual cruelty stand unchallenged. Remember: all that it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
INFJ* January 1, 2016 at 11:44 am Just wanted to express my appreciation for the (relatively) new “new comment” feature!
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 1, 2016 at 4:36 pm I’m so glad people like it! We (my tech savior and I) do lots of technical stuff behind the scenes that no one ever sees, so it’s nice to have a project be so visible in this case!
Jessica (tc)* January 1, 2016 at 4:44 pm I also love the feature to auto-collapse all comment threads, which is helpful when going back to read through comments after the first few times through. Thanks for making things easier on readers as the comment sections get bigger!
Sandy* January 1, 2016 at 11:52 am I have been stuck in Istanbul airport for three days. THREE DAYS. Say something, say anything, I just need some entertainment before I lose my mind.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 12:00 pm Oh, wow, I didn’t hear about the snow there. That’s got to be hugely frustrating. Can you treat yourself like a four-year-old and make up really stupid games? Count how many people are wearing a certain color. Count how many people go into the airport’s equivalent to Cinnabon. Make a scavenger hunt–can you find a sign with a misspelling, a person with red luggage, and the cheapest food in the airport? Or can you come up with ways to be the helpfulness fairy and wander around amusing children and helping old people haul luggage? Randomly pay for somebody else’s coffee? Or you can just hunker down over your phone and Candy Crush it out until your eyes bleed. Good luck.
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 12:19 pm The helpfulness fairy sounds like a good idea. I bet others are bored too — if you’re enough of an extrovert, you could meet some new friends, listen to the life story of an old lady, collect autographs of people from as many countries as you can find, share a meal with a lonely and bored stranger.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 12:26 pm I like those ideas. I’m not an extrovert, but I can play one when necessary, and I’d have a good time doing those.
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 1:06 pm I was travelling to a conference with some teens a few years back, and one of the teens was going to turn 16 while we were gone. I bought several birthday cards, and several of us secretly got all sorts of people to sign them for her. We got travelers in the airport and a pilot, and after we arrived we added cops, a homeless lady, hotel staff, and attendees and speakers at our conference.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 1:09 pm Oh, that’s delightful. And I’m sure that kid (former kid?) remembers that birthday better than most.
Alma* January 1, 2016 at 7:02 pm My weather disaster plan includes a trade paperback copy of Hoyles Rules for Games, and a block of playing cards (I think there are 8 packs shrink wrapped together). Whether you’re trying new ways of playing solitaire, building towers of cards, or learning to play bridge or hearts with strangers in an airport over several days, it may save your sanity.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 2:06 pm the helpfulness fairy is way more entertaining than most of the stuff I come up with in my head.
Sandy* January 1, 2016 at 12:45 pm I love your suggestions! I had already done a few stints as the helpfulness fairy but now I am off to count shirts…
GH in SoCAl* January 1, 2016 at 12:01 pm Hi thee to “Breaking Cat News.” The archive will keep you occupied for awhile. If you finish that, try xkcd.
Perse's Mom* January 1, 2016 at 8:47 pm I read the Special Report on Shelter Cats and cried most of the way through it. I used to work at an open admission shelter, so I can relate to a lot of it, though perhaps oddly, the physical special needs cats and dogs often got adopted really fast. Missing an eye or a leg and they were snatched up, but ongoing medical conditions, not so much.
Cat* January 1, 2016 at 12:09 pm Oh you poor thing. My six hour layover there last month was enough. I’ve hope you’ve gotten plenty of free samples of Turkish delight in the interim.
FutureLibrarian* January 1, 2016 at 12:19 pm Have you read NotAlwaysRight and all of the connecting sites? If not, get thee to their site. Hilarious customer/family/friend/life blurb stories. I was going to suggest AskAManager…but that won’t work haha. Chowhound is a decent foodie website. You could read the backlogs of posts!
Sandy* January 1, 2016 at 12:44 pm Ha! Oddly enough, I was a subscriber to Chowhound when it was a PRINT MAGAZINE. I’m going to go feel old now :)
K.* January 1, 2016 at 4:04 pm I’d also recommend Cake Wrecks – the ways in which people mess up cakes are myriad and hilarious.
Clever Name* January 1, 2016 at 1:24 pm Oh my goodness! We moved to Denver about 9 years ago, and our flight was scheduled on the day of an enormous blizzard. The airport closed for 4 days, and people were stuck there. Even employees. I thought to call the airline as our cars were being loaded up on the moving van only to find out that our flight had been cancelled. Our house was empty and sold and the new owners took possession shortly thereafter. We ended up staying in a hotel for 4 days. With 2 cats. And a newborn. It was nuts. It would have been worse to be stuck in the airport.
Valar M.* January 1, 2016 at 1:29 pm Download amazon kindle app to your phone – there are quite a few books for free on there that are decent.
Dynamic Beige* January 2, 2016 at 4:16 pm I was stuck at Frankfurt for a day, sick as a dog. It wasn’t snow but high winds that caused all the flights to ground. These were the pre-Kindle days, so there was only a very limited selection of books in English at the airport. So I say walk around and see if there’s anyone else there who speaks English. They may have a book they’re done with that you can swap, or as someone else suggested, buy a deck of cards and get a game of something going. Also, because I was sick as a dog… I wandered around trying to find a place to lie down and take a nap but everywhere was covered in people or luggage. So I went up to the customer service desk and asked them if there was somewhere I could go and lie down, that I normally wouldn’t ask but I was sick and everywhere was taken. I must have looked like death warmed over or something because they gave me a slip for a hotel room off the property, showed me where to catch the shuttle. I thought I’d have to pay — and at that point, I seriously didn’t care, I just wanted to lie down and sleep — but somehow it was free! It’s a good thing I got that rest, too, because by the time I got to my car to go home, it was almost 4am… and my battery was out. Took 45 minutes to get it charged up enough to turn over. Travelling is so glamourous!
Valar M.* January 3, 2016 at 12:21 pm Oh man. That sounds rough! I haven’t traveled with more than a sniffle so far – I have been lucky. Traveling sick is my nightmare. They are also better at hotels at having rooms by the hour for people to nap in. They’re pricey but worth it in that sort of situation!
Maybe Tomorrow* January 1, 2016 at 4:29 pm Not Constantinople? Lol now the song is stuck in my head. I love They Might Be Giants.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 6:24 pm LOLOLOLOL That is such an earworm. And I always think of Tiny Toons when I hear it, too.
Dr. Johnny Fever* January 1, 2016 at 6:35 pm Wander around, ask people why they changed the name, and see who can say. You could find out if they like it better that way.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 11:53 am Happy New Year, everyone! I posted the annual WordPress reports as usual today. Those are fun to look at. I have no idea why people go to Clerical Chick at all; I rarely post there, and it’s not anywhere near as good as AAM and Evil HR Lady. But it always gets more hits than my writer blog. Maybe if I had anything to talk about that would help. :P I watched Bridesmaids last night for the first time (yes, Netflix, I’ll send your DVD back now). OMG THAT WAS SO FUNNY. I could totally relate to Kristin Wiig’s character. And I really hope I can meet someone like Officer Rhodes. He can look like Chris O’Dowd too; that would be fine! Really hope everything goes well at work this year. I clicked some dumb horoscope link at MSN and it was eerily spot-0n, but that was just for fun. According to it and a Buzzfeed quiz, it’s going to be a much better year–let’s hope the Universe was reading over my shoulder! Everybody have a good day off. If you have to work today, enjoy your weekend!
ginger ale for all* January 2, 2016 at 6:20 am Bridesmaids was hilarious! I saw it in the regular theater twice and the local dollar one once.
Camster* January 2, 2016 at 11:18 am I love Bridesmaids!! I think I’ve seen it about ten times since it appears regularly on cable. The airplane scene still makes me laugh when I think about it. As for meeting an Officer Rhodes — yeah, I would love to meet someone like that, too!
Rin* January 2, 2016 at 7:27 pm I think I’m the only person in the world who did not like Bridesmaids. I do like Chris O’Dowd, though…
Courtney* January 1, 2016 at 12:05 pm I’ve always wanted to travel by myself, and this year I’m finally going to do it. I plan to take the trip in mid-May. I’ve been saving money and will continue to, but it won’t be a ton. Any suggestions for a fun solo trip that won’t cost a fortune? I live in the Midwest U.S., so I’m not sure if overseas flights will be feasible money wise (even though I would absolutely love to go overseas, that might have to wait until 2017).
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 12:12 pm What do you like to do when you travel? I think there are plenty of cool North American destinations that you’d enjoy, depending on your pleasures. Charleston? Montreal? San Francisco?
Amber Rose* January 1, 2016 at 12:34 pm Your money will go far almost anywhere but particularly in Canada right now. Vancouver and PEI, being coastal, are warm and beautiful that time of year. If you’re feeling more adventurous and want to go slightly further, Mexico is usually really inexpensive and a ton of fun. I spent a week in Puerto Vallarta a few years ago and had a blast, and the trip with the resort package barely cost anything.
Elle the new Fed* January 1, 2016 at 1:05 pm I travel a lot on small budgets… Cheapcaribbean is great for package deals to the caribbean (although not necessarily the ideal for a solo traveller), but since you are so close to Canada I second that! There are a lot of fun things to do. I did much of Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia solo and it was great. Also, I’m an introvert and don’t particularly like or need to make friends as I travel. I did great completely alone but there were tons of people to meet. And lastly, there are a lot of fun places domestically as well. New England is lovely in the late spring!
Cath in Canada* January 1, 2016 at 1:15 pm long-distance trains are a great option for solo travelers, and pretty reasonable price-wise if you don’t get a private compartment. I’ve done Toronto-Vancouver and San Diego-Vancouver and would recommend either – I did both routes non-stop but I think you can get passes where you can hop on and off so you can explore all the intermediate stops. It’s really social – I’ve met some super interesting people in the dining and observation cars.
Valar M.* January 1, 2016 at 1:33 pm I’d recommend the west coast. I’ve done solo trips to Seattle and California and had a lot of fun. There were plenty of entertaining things to do that were still perfectly fun alone, lots of tourist things, good restaurants, and enough single professionals running around that I didn’t feel like I stuck out at all. I’d also recommend one of the big national parks in the west – if you just want peace and quiet. Though in May the mountains may still be pretty inaccessible if you want to hike, depending on how the weather goes.
Dan* January 2, 2016 at 3:39 am You really need to tell us your budget, and how long you want to be gone for… Most of Asia is dirt cheap at the moment.
Treena* January 2, 2016 at 3:09 pm If you’re up for travel hacking, you can get a free/low-cost plane ticket to almost anywhere, and if you choose somewhere cheap, like SE Asia, the trip would be incredibly affordable.
Harriet* January 1, 2016 at 12:06 pm Has anyone worked on a suicide prevention hotline before? I shortly start training for one (not a New Years thing, was accepted in October but between one thing and another couldn’t start training till now) and I’m starting to wonder if I’m completely crazy to volunteer / not emotionally robust enough to do it. If you’ve done it before, what did you think of it?
Shannon* January 1, 2016 at 12:29 pm I don’t know, but, I just wanted to say good luck. You’re very brave and selfless to volunteer to do that. Thank you.
katamia* January 1, 2016 at 12:52 pm I’ve thought about doing this but haven’t officially tried to volunteer because I’m not sure if I could handle it and kind of don’t want to find out the hard way if I can’t. I’d be really interested in hearing about what the training is like if you’re able/willing to share.
Harriet* January 1, 2016 at 6:28 pm I haven’t started the training yet, but up till now it has been a careful selection process – informational chat, interview, group exercises. The training takes a few weekends and then you are also paired with a buddy for a while. So basically my wobble is pointless because they take good care of their volunteers and you only get to the answering phone stage when they and you are both sure you’re ready. If it’s something of interest I would definitely recommend you look into it. Apart from anything, I have never met such a nice bunch of people as the volunteers at the selection events.
Catherine in Canada* January 1, 2016 at 2:46 pm No, but at a very dark moment in my teens, I called one. The line was busy. I hung up and started laughing. It just seemed so perfectly ironic. Even a helpline didn’t have time for me. The humour of it has kept me going through many dark times since.
Harriet* January 1, 2016 at 6:54 pm As a fellow dark humour fan this made me smile. They tell us we just listen and help callers to find answers and strength within themselves. You obviously had that in spades to take such a positive from it :)
jamlady* January 1, 2016 at 3:04 pm I have and I’ve been thinking about getting back into something similar. I have depression and severe GAD so I thought it would be a good way to give back to the community the same way they gave to me. However, my anxiety links to control and I really, really struggled after a few months because of the ones I couldn’t reach. It’s extremely intense, extremely heartbreaking, but also extremely important and does give you a lot of hope on the good days. I felt bad about stopping but they were very clear with me that it’s not our mission to help people only to destroy our own mental health in the process. And they meant this for everyone, not just people like me with a history. It’s a wonderful thing to do – but don’t ever push yourself further than what you can handle and don’t feel bad about taking a break (or leaving altogether). It doesn’t do any good in the big picture if you can’t also be healthy. I don’t know you, but I’m proud of you, and I wish you luck in finding a way to have this in your life (or not, whatever is best).
Harriet* January 1, 2016 at 6:45 pm Thank you so much for sharing this, and I’m in awe you were able to do so for so long while in the grip of anxiety and depression. When I have been in the midst of that in the past I haven’t been capable of helping anyone else at all. Good luck with everything.
Anna* January 1, 2016 at 4:45 pm Just keep it in mind that most often the phone rings and it’s someone who just wants to talk or connect or ask for support groups for transgender people and you’re pretty sure he only calls when you’re working. I worked graveyard at a women’s shelter and part of the job was the crisis hotline was transferred to the shelter office overnight. In the three months I was there, I got exactly one phone call from someone who was suicidal.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 4:51 pm Wow, that’s really interesting. I guess the reference services calls aren’t too surprising, but the fact that so few were actually explicit crises surprises me. I think this is one of those jobs where I never lost the fictional picture of it.
Harriet* January 1, 2016 at 6:17 pm Thank you, that’s a good thing to bear in mind. They did say that they get a surprising number of sex calls (cheaper than premium rate numbers) and people who just want to chat.
K.* January 1, 2016 at 4:49 pm Not suicide prevention but I did volunteer as a rape crisis counselor for a couple of years, which included both in-person and hotline counseling. I won’t lie: it takes a toll, but it was incredibly rewarding and eye-opening. I would advise making time to take care of yourself emotionally, whatever that means for you; make sure you have an outlet to discuss things with (don’t break confidentiality, obviously), and if there are other volunteers, stay in touch with them. The volunteer meetings were very helpful because you were all going through the same unique experience, you know? And if you are getting burned out, speak up! It’s to be expected. Good luck!
Harriet* January 1, 2016 at 6:37 pm Thank you, this is very helpful! I couldn’t really put into words what I was looking for when I posted but I think affirmation that it is rewarding and also that it is OK to take care of myself and everyone might struggle a bit with it. They do seem to have an incredible volunteer support network.
Sophia in the DMV* January 2, 2016 at 12:20 am I swear I posted something earlier. I volunteered at a suicide prevention hotline for a while, the 11pm to 7am shift. I agree that most calls are related to people needing to reach out to another human. You also have regular callers (yes, that’s really a thing) and a few that are very intense. However the training I went through was great, very through, a lot of role playing calls, training in groups of maybe 4, and we shadowed other shifts before stating our own and we had pairs working each shift
K.* January 2, 2016 at 11:06 am We used to get warnings about regular callers who were using the hotline as a 900 number. There are people who get off on rape fantasy and would try to use us to play that out. At volunteer meetings, I think all of us had gotten the same caller at least once. We had class training with role-playing and we also did shadowing. The shadowing was VERY helpful.
Froggy* January 1, 2016 at 6:53 pm I currently volunteer on one. As previously mentioned, 90% of the calls we take are not from actively suicidal people (from my experience, I can get actual stats on my next shift). Still, it can be very emotionally draining. A lot of the training I received centered around learning how to approach the calls in a healthy way, as well as self-care. Everyone has different responses to different types of calls. You’ll learn which ones are hard for you and that you need more support with (and which ones you are a rockstar at handling). Talk to your trainers and supervisors about any concerns you have. They’ll help you continue to assess whether this is the right fit for you. All that being said, volunteering on the lines has given me the knowledge and confidence that I can handle literally any conversation that needs to be had. I use the techniques in my every day life and have grown immensely as a person since I started.
Sophia in the DMV* January 1, 2016 at 8:12 pm Yep. I used to be one. 11pm to 7 am shifts. Most people needed someone they could feel safe reaching out to. Training is intense – you’ll do a lot of practice calls and will shadow people before you man the phones
NicoleK* January 1, 2016 at 9:16 pm I was an intern at a crisis hotline for a year (2000-2001). The majority of the callers were lonely individuals who just wanted human contact, callers who needed resources, or individuals with SPMI diagnosis who were in between therapy session.
hermit crab* January 2, 2016 at 9:35 am I don’t have anything helpful to say, but have you read A Slender Thread by Diane Ackerman? It’s about her experiences volunteering on a hotline in the 90s. It’s a really lovely book and she talks a lot about the effects on volunteers.
Lola* January 2, 2016 at 10:43 am I volunteered on a suicide hotline many years ago. It was stressful but incredibly fulfilling. The team of volunteers I worked with very supportive & generous and the training provided was very good. The vast majority of calls were from repeat callers who needed to know that someone out there cared enough to talk or listen or just hold the phone in silence – often In those loneliest hours in the middle of the night. Thank you for giving your time.
Fleur* January 1, 2016 at 12:07 pm I really hate job hunting as a software developer. First is the studying for technical interviews for things I never actually use on the job. Then there’s the pressure of coding in your free time to have a github account to show off. All this is well and good if I were still a student, but the reason I’m job hunting is because my current job has no sense of work/life balance, and when I come home, I’m so burned out I have no desire to continue coding. It’s a terrible catch 22. If I were happy at work, I’d be spending more time coding for fun in my spare time. But if I were happy at work, I wouldn’t be job hunting or needing personal projects in the first place. For my sanity, I’ve recently started looking into guitar and singing lessons because music has always made me happy. But there’s always the nagging hopelessness that this just further pushes back my job search and in turn makes me unhappier in my current job.
FutureLibrarian* January 1, 2016 at 12:26 pm I’m job hunting too, and while I thankfully don’t have to have a coding presence, I understand the feeling of burnout. Friend, take care of yourself. You’re no use in interviews or job hunting if you’re so miserable and exhausted that you can’t think straight! Take guitar lessons or singing lessons. Give yourself time each night to eat a good, nutritious dinner, work on your “homework” for the night (whether it be finishing an application or working on a Github thing), and then leave yourself 30+ minutes to just…do whatever. Play guitar, take a walk, knit a sweater, watch tv. It is so, so important to remember to take care of yourself while job hunting. A happy interview is a good interview!
Fleur* January 1, 2016 at 1:10 pm Thank you for your supportive words! It’s so hard to keep my head up because I’m tired all the time, but maybe a fun hobby can be what it takes to kick my time management into high gear.
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 12:27 pm It’s possible that some jobs that have work/life balance are ok with you not having a github account to show off, nor give super technical interviews. Perhaps it’s because I like doing maintenance coding, but I’ve successfully found jobs, good jobs, with nothing to show but a good resume and cover letter and myself. I would never be hired by Google, but I’ve had good jobs at a testing lab, city government, farm, manufacturer, government contractor, and now a utility. Most of those were looking for someone who wasn’t afraid of learning something new, but also didn’t expect more than about 40 hours a week.
Fleur* January 1, 2016 at 1:16 pm Can I ask what sort of work is involved in maintenance coding? Curious because I haven’t heard much about that. I’m not really gunning for the likes of Google, but I currently work at a consulting company whose clients primarily do legacy enterprise code, and the lack of quality in the code base is a large source of frustration for me. Sometimes it feels like I’m looking for a unicorn – decent code base vs reasonable hours/getting away from the startup overtime culture – especially since I’m only one year out of school so I don’t have the experience thing going for me yet. I’d be really curious to hear your interview experiences and how you narrowed down your choices, if you don’t mind!
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 2:53 pm Narrowed down my choices? Mainly, if I was looking for a job, and they offered, I took it. I’ve never had two plus job offers at the same time, and three of those times I was unemployed when looking, so I was especially not picky. The lab – it had a LIMS (Laboratory Information Managment System) that had existed for some time, but people always wanted changes and reports out of it. Then our company was bought out and they wanted to put a new system in place. So I helped convert data, make the new system actually handle the data we did, and trained people on the new system. This was long before there was anything like source control, and yet there was a lot of appropriate things done. And I learned from things that were done wrong, too. The city – I helped support a GIS, and again we were moving from one system to another. I did a lot of the database stuff (which is what I really like). The farm – they had an ancient computer and a weird (yet very usable) software system. I helped make reports and queries, and again helped with a conversion to a newer computer and newer software. We supported payroll and did some Y2K work. (Yeah, I’m old.) The manufacturer – they actually write software to go on the equipment they make, but I ended up supporting their in-house service department, and helped write software to sell that didn’t end up being successful. I did a lot of database work, and finally worked at a job that had source control. The government contractor – We supported a lot of different systems, some written fairly well, some written by insane and evil geniuses. I got to do all sorts of database and web page work, training people on our GIS, implementing upgrades, writing documentation (bleh!). The interview for that was only a half hour! I had old letters of recommendation and the guy that hired me know the manager from the first job. The utility – I’m mostly writing reports, getting to know our databases very well. And writing more documentation. (I finally found AAM after starting here.) Overall, I’ve worked a lot with databases, which I really enjoy. I’ve trained people to use software, tested changes, written documentation, helped upgrade software, talked to people to see what they need, written the code, implemented it — essentially doing anything and everything a company needs, when they have some in-house software that doesn’t quite do what they need, or have canned software that doesn’t quite do what they need. I like figuring out what is wrong with software, finding bugs, so ugly legacy code doesn’t scare me. It doesn’t bother me when I don’t know a language or a system — I just jump in. If things are a little bit better after I’ve touched it, that’s good enough.
Fleur* January 1, 2016 at 7:13 pm Ah, that sounds a lot like what my company does now, though I only work with databases in terms of running queries. The ugly legacy code is just frustrating because of the whole enterprise fizzbuzz syndrome, not to mention how slow it is to compile and deploy, and then of course we’re too busy giving ambitious deadlines on new features to fix the existing millions of lines of spaghetti code. In a beggars can’t be choosers way, I think I need to stop being so bothered by badly written code.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 2:15 pm Maybe being able to forgive the people who wrote it? That might be behind why it’s such a big annoyance, the idea that some stupid people did this!! But, those stupid people were: human; limited by the technology and language they were using; limited by the not-well-developed-yet target of “what will this need to do?”; always jury-rigging with not enough time. Think of those long-ago legacy coders as allies who got dealt a tough hand; it might feel easier to clean up after them.
ThursdaysGeek* January 4, 2016 at 1:25 pm And, those stupid people are often me, looking at what I did a few years ago, a few months ago, sometimes a few weeks ago. Each day I code better than I did the day before, but I have all of my own bad code to maintain too.
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 2:21 pm That stinks. I wish I had anything useful to offer you here. I have several friends who work in tech, and they complain about similar issues. One of them is a tech writer (not a software developer) and still had to take irrelevant-to-everyday-work coding tests for interviews. Best of luck!
Fleur* January 1, 2016 at 7:14 pm Thanks! I love writing software, but I don’t love a lot of the culture involved in it.
Nashira* January 2, 2016 at 10:17 am Mercy, I could have written this same thing, and I grew up surrounded by software devs. Love code, do not necessarily love other coders.
Lee Ann* January 1, 2016 at 2:21 pm I’m on the other side – software engineer who has to do some of the interviewing – and we don’t expect github accounts. I’m not even sure if any of my coworkers have one; the skills to do an entire project single-handed don’t necessarily overlap with the ability to work collaboratively – some people just work better when someone else comes up with the big ideas and they get to make that idea work. We try to ask questions that are relevant, especially since we want Mac devs who know – or at least can grasp – the subtle tricky parts of Mac programming and that’s hard to find.
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 4:20 pm Couldn’t the GitHub account show collaboration, though? I mean, I doubt you have time to dig into the whole history of someone’s GitHub account, but it may not be a single project but contributions (e.g., pull requests) to several projects.
Lee Ann* January 1, 2016 at 7:34 pm Possibly – haven’t used it, so I don’t know. Other than one programmer who submitted a lot of Linux fixes while he was in college, most of us haven’t done much in the open-source world. The year I was job hunting after a layoff I did take an existing Unix project (before github even existed) and port it to the Mac because I didn’t have any current Mac Cocoa on my resume, but nobody asked to see the actual code.
Fleur* January 1, 2016 at 7:18 pm I’d love to find more companies like yours. I’d much prefer more practical lines of questioning. But so far I’m encountering a lot of tricky programming contest type questions, and people who expect github accounts showing open source development contributions. It just feels like there’s so much to do to get an online presence and stand out because the entry level programming jobs are so saturated.
Marcela* January 1, 2016 at 2:53 pm Yeah, I’m under the same frustration too. I am a developer, yes, but I am not a programming wizard. I’d describe myself more as a one-woman orchestra, somebody who can do many different things but not at the expert/guru level. All the codes I’ve done belong to somebody, so I’m not free to show them to somebody else. I remember a specially frustrating ad for a job in Drupal. The form included a box for my handle in drupal.com and I could not submit without it. I do have one, since I worked 5 years as a Drupal developer, but the code wasn’t open source and it was 2 or 3 drupal versions ago. It’s like those ads asking for a (mandatory) LinkedIn handle. I haven’t been in this country long enough to have a full and complete network, and most of the people I have worked with are scientists, for who LinkedIn is not really that relevant, therefore they don’t use it. Somehow it feels all companies want superstars, geniuses of programming. My talent is to work very, very hard and being able to learn whatever I need for a given task: not that I am the best programmer in the world. I get so frustrated sometimes.
Marcela* January 1, 2016 at 2:55 pm Agh, the job wasn’t in Drupal. It was for some company using Drupal.
Stephanie* January 1, 2016 at 3:10 pm Ugh, I hate ads that ask for mandatory LinkedIn handles. I have a LinkedIn profile, but it’s kind of at the bare minimum. I log on to accept connections and look up an interviewer.
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 4:28 pm So frustrating. It sounds as if they are also more concerned with being good at job hunting than being good at job doing.
Fleur* January 1, 2016 at 7:20 pm I completely commiserate with you. If I never have to see rockstar or ninja in a job ad again, it would be too soon. Hopefully the new year will bring better luck to both of us!
Rubyrose* January 1, 2016 at 9:09 pm Former developer, now Business Analyst. Also old, like ThursdaysGeek :-). Listen to ThursdaysGeek – sage advise there. See how s/he was willing to do whatever was needed, outside of actual heads down coding (training, documentation (I know!), report writing)? Those activities will help educate you in ways to design and code systems that will be more useful to the business, that will stand the test of time. Having a variety of tasks, as opposed to just coding, will lessen your stress level. And that variety, along with your ability to actively express your interest and ability to learn whatever needs to be learned, will make you more marketable to the types of positions and employers you are looking for. These companies are probably smaller (yes, no Google or MicroSoft) but with fewer people they are more likely to value someone who has more in their toolbox than software languages. If all they care about is if you know how to code some off-the beaten-path need right now, as opposed to whether you can stretch and support whatever they need, that company may not be somewhere you want to be. Another skill that good companies are interested in is how you estimate how long it will take you to do a piece of code and how close your estimates are. Estimates help set expectations on overall workload and ultimately how much overtime you are putting in. When I talk to recruiters recommending developers, the mere mention that the developer knows how to ask the questions that business users can understand immediately raises their rank several points. Developers who just take specs as written and blindly codes without question are not desired by better firms. And by better, I do mean the firms who truly believe in work/life balance and do practice it. They do exist, please do not lose faith in that. Granted, I have no idea about github, and thanks – I will go check it out, just to know what it is. But I don’t think you are totally dead in the water without it. To get back to your current situation – 1. Yes, take those guitar and singing lessons! 2. Rework your resume, if needed, to include toolbox skills that are more than just heads down coding. 3. Actively look for opportunities in your current position to cultivate skills that support/complement coding. 4. Avoid the trap that, if you are working a lot of OT on a consistent basis (what I call working stupidhours (space between those two words intentionally left out)), you end up spending a lot of time at work complaining about the work instead of doing it. If you are spending more than 15 minutes a day complaining to coworkers and/or goofing off or avoiding work, you are contributing to your own misery. Go to work, work, and when you leave, leave work at work. This is for your mental sanity. Easier said than done, especially if you are on call, but needed. 5. With only a year under your belt, it may take some time to find another position that is more in line with what you want. My last job search took a year, primarily because I knew what I was looking for and was not willing to settle. Sticking it out at the old job was painful and made me dog-tired. Part of what got me through it was the realization that if I did nothing I would be stuck in an unacceptable situation forever. Sorry for the ramble. Best wishes to you!
Fleur* January 2, 2016 at 2:52 am Thank you so much for the advice! The main problem with OT at my consulting firm is that they’ll pile more work on you the more you prove yourself. Last deadline, I finished my assigned work with a week to spare. Then I was pulled in by the project big wig to help someone else with part of their work – *urgently*. It was hugely complicated, my code review took two whole hours to go through everything, and I was working crazy hours to finish what should reasonably be a month’s worth of work in 2 weeks. My reward for doing well at this? Being put on critical bug fixing for stuff that has daily deadlines and multiple checkins per day, with the testing team doing the equivalent of “Are we there yet? Are we there yet?” at each meeting. If it weren’t for my scheduled PTO, I’d have gone completely insane. The upside is that if there’s one thing I’m confident of, it’s that I’m wasting none of the hours I’m charging. I don’t even spend more than 15 minutes per day at lunch just so I can pray to go home at a reasonable hour. One of the older devs where I work warned me that the better I perform, the worse my hours will get, but I was keen on my first job and now I’ve dug myself into a hopeless hole. I will take into consideration about modifying my resume to include more supplemental skills. Working at a consulting company does mean a lot of client facing interaction and back and forth with the design team in gathering requirements and making sure the design makes sense and isn’t missing use cases. I think amidst the misery, I do like being given input on design matters at my low level, I know I wouldn’t necessarily get that chance elsewhere. Thanks again for taking the time to help! I’ve made changes to my resume and cover letter templates to be more than just technical information. Hopefully that gets me bites from more companies!
Rubyrose* January 2, 2016 at 9:45 am OK, you have the attention and trust of the higher ups – they would not be giving you all that additional, critical work otherwise. On one hand, that and the other info you have shared says great things about you and the fact you have what it takes to be truly successful and have a bright future. Kudos to you! On the other hand, yes, that older dev warned you of the downside, and unfortunately you are now living it. Hopefully you are still on PTO and are probably heading back on Monday? Good time to implement a change. Time to start putting in some boundaries/good business practices. Consider implementing any or all of these: 1. When given a new task/assignment, give them, as best you can, an upfront estimate of how long it will take. Verbal is good, written (in email) is better. Be sure you put in some pad, even if you think the task is an easy slam dunk. Think of it as giving worst case scenario, or the additional time needed if you have to constantly put it down and pick it up (consider constant rank up time). Give them this time whether they ask for it or not. Estimating is a skill that is developed over time. Some developers never get it down, and people like me are paid to take their estimates and pad them to be realistic before presenting to the client or putting into a project plan. Don’t be hard on yourself at this stage if you miss the mark. Being more accurate will come with time and experience, if you actively compare your estimates with what the reality turns out to be and don’t get discouraged with this process. This skill can be especially helpful as you move up the ranks, or if you ever decide to go out on your own. 2. When given a new task, on top of all the others, ask your manager to help you prioritize all of your work. Now, you may already know or be able to figure this out on your own. But the goal of this is to remind your manager that you already have 7 time sensitive tasks and she has just added 2, so what is going to give? Many managers, especially in the heat of battle (and it is a battle on software projects gone wrong), forget what is totally on your plate. And some don’t care. So your job is to look out for yourself, the clients, and ultimately the company. You can make it easy for all by keeping a summary list of what is assigned (both billable and non-billable) and what you believe current priorities are. When assignments are verbal, be able to whip out the list quickly. If manager fumbles, tell her you will send via email and will assume your ranking is accurate unless corrected. And send that email. You need the written documentation, in case things totally fall apart. In this same vein, don’t know what current weekly reporting/project planning you currently have to do. But if there is none, start keeping track of what you are doing on a weekly basis and send to manager, or put in a format (thinking Excel) that can be sent if history is needed. Since you work for consulting firm you might already have to do some of this, for billing purposes. But you need to be able to show not only billing items but the stuff that is internal work, that would not be billed to client. Do not need detail; this is something that would take an absolute max of 15 minutes a week. You can use this as a memory jog to come up with items to add to your resume. It also helps support asking for a potential promotion/salary increase. I don’t see you angling for this, but over time it may become important. 3. Fifteen minute lunches need to be increased to 30 minutes, and hopefully taken away from desk. Only fifteen minutes are contributing to your burnout. 4. Develop, at least once a week, maybe two, same day(s) of week, a standing appointment right after normal working hours that you have to keep, during which you are unavailable to work. The goal is to train them that you are not always available; you are not their slave. If they ask, all you are obligated to tell them is that it is personal business. Even if your plan is to go home and crash, present it to them as something you are paying money for and cancelling will give you problems. They won’t like it, but over time they will get used to it and start accommodating it. 5. Take these practices to any and all future positions up front. Retraining them is harder than setting the expectation initially. You can get yourself out of this rut!
Cruciatus* January 1, 2016 at 12:14 pm So the crappy treadmill we bought a decade (or so!) ago has started spewing fluff. I couldn’t figure out where it was all coming from (thought maybe we had some weird mouse nesting situation in the basement) but eventually realized it is probably from the belt. The treadmill wasn’t used for years and only in the last year or two I started using it during winter months to keep my steps up. It actually seemed to get worse once I sprayed underneath with silicone. It’s also stopped keeping up to speed once I step on it. It will go, but slowly. I took off the motor cover and everything actually looks good. The other motor belt thing is undamaged. The motor is definitely working, just not when I step on it. So, the question is, do we try replacing the belt for about $100 and hope that solves it or just go all out and buy a new one? My mom told me she would pay for it (probably because I haven’t asked for much for Christmas/birthdays the last few years. The highlight this year being Sonicare toothbrush heads!) Plus, good for my health and all. I really did use the treadmill a lot during the winter and crappy weather days in better seasons. I’m mostly a walker, with the occasional “run” (usually a mile or two). I spent most of the day yesterday looking at Consumers and Amazon/internet reviews. The machines I’m looking at are probably more than I need, but they are A) actually available to buy and B) have good reviews across the board. They are the: * Sole Fitness F80 *Proform Pro 2000 Does anyone have any thoughts about either treadmill and/or suggestions for another one that is actually available to buy that may be up my alley?
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 12:18 pm I don’t know treadmills so can’t offer a recommendation for a replacement, but given that you really use this, I’d lean toward the new one. There’s too much risk of going to get around to getting the belt replaced any minute now and falling out of the habit in the meantime. (Love my old Proform elliptical, but who knows what that has to do with a new treadmill?)
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 6:00 pm Agreed. I’m not familiar with treadmills, but yours is ten years old. Probably there are huge changes in the technology with the current models. One thing that helped me make a decision on my sewing machine was to talk to someone who repairs them. The life expectancy for my machine is 25 years, since this is year 25 you know what happened. It died. I will be replacing it, not repairing it.
Grumpy* January 1, 2016 at 12:24 pm There will be plenty of used ones at the end of January when the New Years Resolutions start breaking. ;O) Can the $100 fix last until you get a good quality used one?
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 12:40 pm Ooh I want to find a collapsible one. I’ll keep this in mind.
Mockingjay* January 1, 2016 at 10:16 pm Sometimes local fitness centers will sell used treadmills. Mine does. They replace equipment routinely – like rental cars are after so many miles. My gym is pretty careful to only sell clean, working items. YMMV, so check around.
Cruciatus* January 2, 2016 at 3:34 pm There’s currently a price war on different sites for the F80. Think I’ll sit back and watch this for a while… It’s already $150 less on one site than it was yesterday. Plus, through one site I can get cashback through Fatwallet. Only $18 bucks but, hey, still a factor!
Maxwell Edison* January 1, 2016 at 12:31 pm Half work-related, half family stuff: At Christmas I got very annoyed with my BIL, who seems to think that full-time freelancing = sitting at home eating bonbons all day. He referred to my current situation as “funemployment” and “retirement.” Um, no. I’m running my own business (and making a profit) and putting in more actual work than I did at Corporate ToxicJob because I’m not spending hours in meetings listening to developers scream at everyone. BIL is an OK guy but has a huge elitist streak (he bought me a book for Christmas, but not anything I’ve asked for or expressed an interest in – it’s what he thinks I should be reading). Fortunately, because he lives overseas I only have to put up with him once every few years.
Cb* January 1, 2016 at 12:38 pm Aargh, I just play relative bingo! My BIL did his doctorate in the sciences more than 20 years ago and doesn’t quite get how the process works for social scientists / the academic job market of today so his questions are a bit unhelpful and annoying.
Rubyrose* January 1, 2016 at 9:40 pm And what does BIL do to earn his keep? Work a ToxicJob for Corporate? I think I would probably try to find a kidding way to point out to him that he does not know what he is talking about. With some folks, doing that and repeating it several times is enough to shut them up. But with that elitist streak, he may believe he knows everything. What would he do if you flat out told him that you were tired of him judging your choices and would he please knock it off? Sound harsh, but it is not as if he is treating you with soft kid gloves.
ginger ale for all* January 2, 2016 at 12:38 am You could do a Carolyn Hax “wow” or laugh and say in adult to a child voice “I forget how out of touch you are at times until you say something like that to remind me”. Say that last one with a smile and shake your head and then change the subject.
misspiggy* January 2, 2016 at 8:46 am I have a similar-ish sibling situation, and what works for me, after trying polite deflections, is calmly saying, ‘Actually, I’m feeling quite hurt. Let’s talk about something else (subject change.)’ Seems to snap him out of competition mode and remind him that we need to be kind to people we love.
Elizabeth* January 1, 2016 at 12:40 pm I spent the last 2 weeks gathering quotes & contracts together from various vendors, and on Wednesday, our Board approved a $3M expenditure, of which I was responsible for close to $1M. We’re going to replace our main information system, which I was hired to implement almost 20 year ago. I got a “job well done, we couldn’t have done it without you” from our CEO in a email that was CC’ed to my boss, her boss and about half a dozen other senior people.
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 6:03 pm I hope you printed it out for your compliments file. That is so cool! Congrats.
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 12:47 pm So, I have a cat now. She kind of chose me I guess. I’ve seen her before in the neighborhood, she’s very friendly and always came up for pets or to rub between your legs. I always assumed she had an owner somewhere taking care of her. Last week I came home from work and she was laying near my front door. No big deal, I said hi kitty and reached down to pet her. Normally she’ll jump up, but she didn’t really move. I dropped my stuff off inside and came back out to check on her some more. Seemed like she was having trouble breathing and didn’t want to move. Didn’t help that it was raining and cold. I bundled her up in my dog’s carrier, which was all I had, and took her to the local 24 hr vet. They said she had an upper respiratory infection and started antibiotics. She spent 4 days there and is ok now, but they said there is significant scarring of the nasal passages and she’ll likely always be prone to more infections. The morning after I took her to the vet I walked around the entire neighborhood going door to door with pictures. No one claimed her or knew who her owner might be. The vet says she was spayed but not chipped. Right now she’s in my office and so wants to meet my beagle puppy. They are laying on opposite sides of the door. She keeps sticking her paws out under the door. I’m trying to follow the suggestions to keep her in one room for a few days, but the two of them so seem ready to be friends. My beagle is great with cats, the breeder he came from also has cats and he goes to visit about once a month or so when I travel for work. The vet was awesome and would not let me pay for anything besides the costs of medications and vaccines.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 1:12 pm Congratulations, Noah! I hope the pup-to-puss introduction goes okay, too. What does New Cat look like? (And how nice of the vet. Costs like that are no joke.)
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 2:11 pm Looks a bit like a cheetah with the golden fur and black markings. The vet says with her long legs and markings it is possible she’s at least part Savannah, but he wasn’t 100% sure on that. I was super thankful to the vet. I’ve seen him once for a checkup and stuff with my beagle, but no long term relationship.
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 1:17 pm So, what are you going to name her? Very rarely have I selected a cat — usually they find us. Two in the past were Fig (Found In Gutter) and Gus (Grey Unwashed Stray). Scraggle (who has scraggelly chewed up ears) is our most recent guest, and she also was spayed but not chipped. We get dump cats where we live. It makes me angry, because they are more likely to be hungry and scared and then hit by a car or eaten by a coyote than find a good place to live. If people want to get rid of their animals by killing them, then take them to a shelter that kills humanely, don’t dump them so they die by torture and in fear.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 1:39 pm I have friends who live out in the country, and it is Pet Dump Land out there. As you say, the coyotes find this valuable.
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 2:01 pm Not really sure about a name yet. The vet and staff were calling her Wheezie, because she still wheezes a bit when breathing due to the scarring. That just might stick.
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 2:58 pm I like Wheezie! It has a nice ring to it. We had another dump cat that we didn’t keep. We called him Stinker, once we found out he sprayed. We got him fixed and found him a job as a mouser at a farm. He was a nice cat, but not one that could be an indoor pet.
SaraV* January 1, 2016 at 2:59 pm Hmmm. Weezy/Weezie, with her full name being Louise? And what a wonderful vet!
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 3:11 pm Haha, I’ve been saying Wheezy my neezy all day long. Just looked up where shizzle my nizzle came from and may have to stop saying that.
NJ Anon* January 1, 2016 at 8:59 pm My nieces dog is nick-named weezie! Her real name is Louise Francine Be Be.
Be the Change* January 2, 2016 at 2:07 am ThursdaysGeek, can you say a little more about the ethics of humane-kill shelters when there’s no other choice? Are you serious when you suggest it? I’m really asking, not trying to catch you out or criticize in any way.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 2, 2016 at 2:31 am I’m not ThursdaysGeek, but I have strong feelings on this topic so figured I’d jump in too. More than 3 million dogs and cats are euthanized in shelters in the U.S. every year for lack of homes. No-kill shelters are often only able to operate by turning away animals, or by essentially warehousing them in cages for months or years. It sucks, and it’s the reality of animal overpopulation, since there are far more dogs and cats born every year than homes for them. There’s no practical alternative though — there just aren’t enough resources to care for them. (That’s one reason why people shouldn’t buy from pet shops or breeders — thus creating more demand for breeding them, when so many animals have to be killed because there aren’t enough homes for them — but instead should adopt from shelters or rescue groups. And it’s why it’s so important to spay/neuter your animals.) When ThursdaysGeek says “If people want to get rid of their animals by killing them, then take them to a shelter that kills humanely, don’t dump them so they die by torture and in fear,” I imagine that she’s referring to the fact that animals dumped on the street are likely to starve or die painful deaths. Given the fact that there are millions more dogs and cats than there are available homes, sometimes the most humane thing shelters can do is to peacefully put them to sleep. It sucks, and it’s a question of picking the kindest of many bad options.
ThursdaysGeek* January 2, 2016 at 9:08 pm Yeah, I was expressing disgust at people who dump animals, rather than expressing joy that we have to have kill shelters. A few years ago, I saw something black in the road as I approached an intersection, one of the roads being a 55mph highway. Someone had dumped three half-grown lab puppies. Two had already been hit and killed by cars, and the third was so traumatized that we couldn’t get near to it. Why do people do that?!
Marcela* January 2, 2016 at 2:56 pm I can’t believe that somebody who abandon an animal on the street is not perfectly aware that that is a 100% certain death sentence. It’s just a matter of using their eyes and see the enormous amount of animals killed by cars. Besides, our pets haven’t been taught how to feed themselves. And in many places, temperatures are dangerous an important part of the year. Even worse, our homes are mostly peaceful environments, relatively noiseless, so being dumped outside, with the noise of streets and cars, and their claxons when pets cross the street must be overwhelming and disorienting. I don’t believe somebody can truly ignore all of that. Therefore, if you decide to kill an animal, why do you decide to do it the cruelest why, when there are shelters where the exact same thing can be done without such horror for an defenseless animal? It’s not the best solution by all means, but unless we all get serious about stopping the overpopulation, choosing the less cruel evil is the mark of a decent human being.
Be the Change* January 2, 2016 at 10:52 pm Hi everyone, thank you for these thoughts. Actually I agreed with ThursdaysGeek to begin with, but some family members of mine are opposed to putting to sleep even when clearly indicated. “We don’t put people to sleep, why would we put animals?” …coming from a cultural tradition where you don’t even step on ants. Regarding pets in this country I’m visiting, pets are ONLY purebred. If you’re wealthy enough to have a pet, you want a purebred status symbol. This makes me super angry. Zilch I can do about it.
Dynamic Beige* January 2, 2016 at 4:26 pm You do not choose the cat… the cat chooses you! All my cats have been Dumpees, including the fuzzbutt sitting next to me on the couch right now and his mother? Grandmother? Aunt? Known only unto God the relationship between them girl who is sleeping somewhere else. You’re good people Noah. That cat knew what she was doing when she went to your door for help.
Blight* January 1, 2016 at 1:22 pm Don’t be scared to just let the dog and cat be together right from the start. We had a cat for years and she was used to being the Queen of the house, then we got an energetic Shih Tzu and everyone told us to keep them in separate rooms and have small visits over a few weeks… After the first hour of watching them both trying to get past the door I just let them both run free throughout the house. The good thing about cats is that they can easily jump to a level where a dog cannot bother them. I found it was very positive to allow them to just ‘be’ and not be separated – it just seems to make a big deal out of nothing.
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 2:22 pm Yeah. I just gave up on the keeping them separated. The dog went running between my legs to get in. They met and sniffed each other for awhile. No barking, hissing, or growling from either side. I’ll probably make sure they are kept separate when I’m not home for awhile, but for the moment they seem to be getting along fine.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 1, 2016 at 4:42 pm Aw. I adore/love/am obsessed with interspecies friendships. Please keep us posted on this one. My heart wants to explode every time I watch Eve and Olive being BFFs and they don’t even have the interspecies thing going for them.
nerdgal* January 1, 2016 at 9:02 pm Both my cats were dump offs. They were both tiny kittens when we found them. They are a very entertaining pair.
Myrin* January 1, 2016 at 2:57 pm That’s how we got our own cat three and a half years ago (minus the being injured and ill part, thankfully)! We even named him Stalkie because he kept stalking us for months (seriously, he’d miraculously appear behind every window and door as soon as you walked into another room) before we decided to take him in as we found out that he didn’t belong to anyone else, either. It has made the life of our neighbour’s cat approximately a million times harder because they’re something like each other’s arch nemeses but he enriched my whole family’s life so much, it’s incredible. I hope you will be just as happy with you new cat as we are with ours!
Dr. Johnny Fever* January 1, 2016 at 4:12 pm Aw! Thanks for doing such a good thing! A 6month old kitten adopted us in similar fashion. She was friendly yet skittish, started sleeping in the yard, and tried to get in the house. Husband took her to vet, got her shots done and exam done, and discovered she was already spayed. One of her first nights, she was curled near my feet. I shifted slightly and she bolted; we realized she’d had a home before but was not treated kindly. 9 months later, she’s healthy, more social, curls up on laps, and mostly gets along with our 14yo cat. She’s glommed onto the boy completely. She’s our little PTSD kitty with her quirks, and we love her very much.
Jean* January 1, 2016 at 8:10 pm ~~~~~~~ That’s me sending good vibes to all the people who make homes for stray cats. Maybe this is the year for me to express my feline fondness by supporting a help-the-cats organization. I can’t take in any strays myself because allergies.
Perse's Mom* January 1, 2016 at 11:33 pm Congratulations on the addition to your family! The shelter term for cats with chronic upper respiratory problems (at least at the shelter where I used to work) was ‘snot rocket,’ though I think Wheezie is certainly kinder. :) Plenty of options for fun nicknames with that, too. The extra bonus of cat/dog combos is that they’re not going to pass Wheezie’s URI back and forth, as they might if it was a cat/cat pair. My entire family acquires our feline friends via stray and/or farm abandonment – I think I’m the only one of us that’s actually adopted cats and even in that case, they were former barn cats, strays, or given up by their owner.
The Expendable Redshirt* January 2, 2016 at 6:39 pm Paws up to you! Congratulations on being adopted by a cat. My oldest cat Maury adopted me too. He started by hanging out in the front yard. Over a few weeks, I noticed that his fur was becoming more matted. The poor Maury looked hungry too! So one night during a rain storm, I let him in. In the morning, I brought Maury to Animal Services to see if his human family could be found. Nobody turned up. It turned out that Maury was an eight year old senior cat and his chances of being adopted were lower than average. So Maury came home with me! *soapbox moment* Most of my cats have a similar adoption story. A lost waif brought home from the shelter. But I think that finding a pet at a responsible breeder can be a good option too. There are many ways to help shelter cats beyond just adopting them.
LibraryChick* January 1, 2016 at 12:48 pm My past several main employers use those third party services for employment verification. I am job hunting right now, and am wondering how I should note that on the application? Should that be information I provide later in the process (after an interview?). Some of the digital applications have very rigid parameters of what information can be entered in to those fields, so I have no way of including it if I wanted to. What has worked for the rest of you?
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 1:07 pm I wouldn’t worry about it. When I did employment verification for security badges it was always easy to figure out which companies used the third party services. When you called they would either transfer you to an information voicemail or just tell you to use ABC Verification. Towards the end of my time there I would always start by search at BIG Verification and see if the company names I needed were listed there. So much easier to print out the verification and then move on.
Cb* January 1, 2016 at 12:48 pm Help please? Our housesitter smoked out of the window in our guest room and now it smells of smoke. We’ve had the windows open but any hints on removing the smell? It doesn’t seem to be on anything specific (have washed the linens) but am keen to get rid of it asap.
Former Diet Coke Addict* January 1, 2016 at 1:00 pm Sometimes putting dishes of vinegar around the room can help kill the smell faster. Opening the windows is good, and if you can run a fan in there to help ventilate it more, that will help as well. You may want to wipe down all the surfaces in there, since smoky smell can cling to things, and give the floor a good cleaning as well. Is it carpeted? If so, shaking baking soda into the carpet and letting it sit for a while before vacuuming it up can help. For hard floors, a good mopping. Are there curtains or blinds? They can usually be washed as well, and if the housesitter was smoking at the window they may be hanging onto the smell too. If the housesitter wasn’t there for too long, it won’t take the smell too long to dissipate if you keep working at it.
Girasol* January 1, 2016 at 3:32 pm Wash hard surfaces and launder the bedspread, curtains, throw pillows and any other washable fabric surfaces.
Elle the new Fed* January 1, 2016 at 1:10 pm Baking soda in bowls or on plates has been the biggest success for me. Or an air purifying machine. I lived in an apt that had a smoker upstairs and the air purifier was the only way to clean it out constantly.
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 1:10 pm If you can’t get rid of it any other way, ozone generators work. You have to remove plants and pets from the home first, because it can harm them. My dad has rental homes and a combo of using Killz paint and the ozone generators almost always destroy the smoking smell.
New Years Turtle* January 1, 2016 at 1:52 pm Charcoal. Just put a few lumps around the room. It will absorb all the smell. Just be sure it’s not “quick lite” or anything like that because those are typically soaked in lighter fluid.
MommaCat* January 1, 2016 at 1:54 pm The smell is probably in the drywall, and I only know of time and air getting the smell out. Maybe try burning a candle or something to help cover the smell for now?
Pennalynn Lott* January 1, 2016 at 6:26 pm “Smells Be Gone” unscented odor eliminating spray by Punati has been able to kill any smell I’ve thrown (sprayed) it at. Including the time my boyfriend set fire to the oven and the whole house was covered in smoke. Spray *everything* with it. Walls, ceiling, floors, bedding, curtains, furniture, etc. You can buy it from their website (just Google it) or on Amazon.
Devils Avocado* January 1, 2016 at 12:50 pm I got a new job, just before Christmas! Starting Feb 1. I’m moving from working in an administrative role in a not for profit to working in an awesome higher education job where I’ll get to use my master’s degree more directly. I am beyond thrilled to move into a role that is not purely administrative. I haven’t told my current boss yet… I found out after our office was already closed for the holidays, so I am planning to tell her on the first day back. (I’ll work a 4 week notice period, so I felt this was reasonable.) I’ve been having nightmares about resigning, though. I’ve read all of the archives here about resigning, but I’m still nervous because I am leaving at a super bad time (I’m leaving in the middle of the financial audit, which I coordinate…) Any advice? I also wanted to say thanks to everyone here – I read the site daily, but don’t comment that much. I’ve been job searching for 8 months now and was beginning to feel quite hopeless. Reading the site really helped me. Happy New Year to all!
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 1:00 pm You can give your four weeks and offer to come in on a contract basis in the evenings to help finish things. But really, four weeks is plenty of notice, so you don’t need to feel guilty at all. There is never a good time to resign. If it wasn’t the audit, it would be something else.
Devils Avocado* January 1, 2016 at 3:52 pm Thanks. I don’t think I want to offer to contract – I really want to turn a page and focus on the new role. I’m hoping they don’t ask for a part time or contracting arrangement, but if they do I will likely decline.
Elle the new Fed* January 1, 2016 at 1:15 pm Agree that 4 weeks is plenty. I’ve also found that resigning always seems more terrifying than it actually is. As Alison has said, moving on is a normal part of business and its the employers job to deal with it!
No Name For This One* January 1, 2016 at 1:22 pm Once when my dad resigned, and the employer wanted him to stay, my dad said, “Did you really think I would work here until I died?!” I’m not recommending this line, just sharing it.
Devil's Avocado* January 1, 2016 at 3:54 pm Thank you so much! After 8 months of looking (I’m in a Canadian oil city there unemployment is surging right now) I was so pleasantly surprised to get this offer.
Valar M.* January 1, 2016 at 1:42 pm Just keep telling yourself that it isn’t your fault or your problem – you’re giving 4 weeks, that’s more than enough time to get someone already there into some sort of groove and hand over the big picture stuff on your work. Offer whatever you can to help make that transition as smooth as possible given that its a difficult time, and be gracious. They can’t expect anything more from you than that. And – congrats!! Enjoy the new job.
Devil's Avocado* January 1, 2016 at 4:02 pm Thanks so much! I’m not sure what they’ll do. It’s a tiny organization (15 staff with 2 other current vacancies), and I’m the entire operations department right now (everything from HR to bookkeeping, board support, admin assistant to senior leadership, and just generally making sure the lights stay on and everything keeps chugging along…) I know everyone has the tendency to think their offices will crumble without them, but in this case I really do think they’re going to be quite shocked and really have to scramble to cover my duties. I’m just hoping no bridges will be burned!
Rubyrose* January 1, 2016 at 10:02 pm Congrats!! I understand the desire to leave them in good steed, hence the 4 week notice. And on reading the other posts and seeing how small the organization is, I can understand. But in terms of taking care of yourself – is there any chance that they will not take the news well and perhaps not treat you well during that 4 week time period? If so, consider only giving 2. In one position I was at for 5.5 years, I gave a 6 week notice. Again, a smaller organization and I was a supervisor. It was my first professional job out of school and I was very concerned about leaving them well and on a good note. My manager did not take it well. He literally quit talking to me, relaying information and decisions to me through another worker. He told this same person that if they wanted me gone before the notice period was up, they just needed to say so and it would be done. My saving grace – I got called for jury duty right after I gave notice and was put on a criminal trial! So the last three weeks of the six week period I was out of the office. That also did not sit well with my manager, who suggested I postpone my civic duty. With how he treated me those first three weeks, no way! Just take care of yourself.
Devil's Avocado* January 2, 2016 at 10:45 am Based on how they’ve treated other employees who have resigned recently (with similar notice periods) I think they’ll react fine. Plus, the last week of the 4 weeks notice is field work for the audit (pulling samples, walking through processes, etc.) which is completely my responsibility. I think they’d have to be pretty angry to let me go before that, because not having me available for that at this point would really put the audit in jeopardy. I know what you mean about long notice periods… my last job I left because I was moving, and I gave 3 months notice (even smaller non-profit). It was brutal. I stopped getting consulted on decisions, I was no longer assigned projects, etc. Longest 3 months of my life!
NicoleK* January 1, 2016 at 10:18 pm I recently left my toxic job at a less than ideal time (one manager was on maternity leave, this time of the year is a super busy time for the organization, a lot of staff turnovers this past summer, and etc.) When I gave notice I acknowledged that the timing was terrible and outlined my plans to make the transition as smooth as I can. I communicated with everyone that would be affected by my departure. Everyone was given the same information regarding transition plans, where to locate important documents, etc.
Cross3t* January 1, 2016 at 12:57 pm What’s the time-frame for Happy New Year’s/holiday emails before they’re too late? It’s a week or so in for me, but I’ve been told that anything past January 2 is already late.
Valar M.* January 1, 2016 at 1:43 pm The first week, but I probably wouldn’t blink if it was someone I heard from infrequently and they said it to me a a couple of weeks in either. I don’t put weight on this sort of thing – people who say it mean well, that’s all that really matters.
Lee Ann* January 1, 2016 at 2:25 pm The season’s not quite over yet – I know a priest who sends Epiphany cards (Jan 6, the 12th day of Christmas) because he’s far too busy in the lead up to Christmas :)
Alma* January 1, 2016 at 8:07 pm I’m still dating handwritten note cards “Christmastide” – who has time to write before 12/25?
Anonymous Poster* January 1, 2016 at 12:57 pm Hello everyone– I was reading through the thread on University of Phoenix that popped up earlier this year, and this got me wondering about other online only universities. Is Walden in the same boat as University of Phoenix and DeVry, when it comes to masters and above level coursework? I’m really curious what people that do hiring out there think of that university. Thanks!
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 1:06 pm It’s not so much the online as the for-profit, which Walden is. It doesn’t have the name recognition/infamy of UoP and DeVry, but it’s going to have the for-profit problem to some extent nonetheless. (Western Governors is online but nonprofit, by contrast.)
Anonymous Poster* January 1, 2016 at 1:29 pm Ah, I missed the distinction between online-only and for-profit. Thanks for pointing that out, and for the response. I hope you all have a happy 2016!
Elle the new Fed* January 1, 2016 at 1:18 pm I was reading through that too! But while I think Walden is less recognised, it still has a bit of the same stigma due to its for-profit status.
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 1:25 pm Walden is for real? I thought that was a Doonesbury for-profit school. Ah, Googling has shown me the difference between Walden College and Walden University.
Mean Something* January 1, 2016 at 1:42 pm I’m curious about this because since I got involved in hiring (secondary school teachers), I’ve seen a few Walden educational-technology degrees on solid-looking resumes. I would be interested in talking with candidates about what they gained from those programs–I can absolutely see that such a niche could be well filled by a for-profit online school. (I also taught in one for-profit design college, and it was a pretty serious place, but there were definitely areas in which the educational mission and the for-profit status came into conflict!)
Valar M.* January 1, 2016 at 1:48 pm I think it depends what field you are talking about to some extent. In the sector I work in – any sort of work online makes me raise an eyebrow. Even if its from a well-known brick and mortar nonprofit. Hands-on practical experience and networking are vital. Its difficult enough when someone is fresh out of a program and a little green. When they’ve missed the boat entirely because they worked from home? I really worry. If they had solid work experience, internships and recommendations to offset that, I would still consider them, but it would be a flag for me.
periwinkle* January 1, 2016 at 4:55 pm Walden doesn’t have the greatest reputation, but OTOH its lower name recognition may reduce any stigma placed on graduating from a for-profit. I didn’t jump into the thread about U of Phoenix, which got rather interesting and somewhat heated. The general consensus was that all for-profits are hideous; however, I don’t know how many contributors to that thread are attending or had actually attended one. I am. Like many others at my company, I’m a student at Capella University (online for-profit); I’m working on my doctorate there. Could I have been accepted and fully funded at a non-profit school with an excellent reputation? Yes, I’m sure of it. Could I have attended that better school without having to sell our house and move and while keeping my current full-time well-paid job at a company that is footing almost the entire cost of the degree program? Nope. Would I be attending a for-profit if I were footing the bill? Oh hell no (although I have been happily surprised with the quality of this program). Does my company recognize and value the degree? Yes, although they wisely put the real value on what you actually do with the knowledge you gained. Now, can I take my for-profit doctorate and be taken seriously elsewhere? Maybe, maybe not. Am I getting a lot of intellectual stimulation from my fellow students? Many no, some yes, with ratio improving as I get deeper into the program. My experience and that of colleagues/friends who have gone the for-profit route is that you get out what you put in, although that still depends on the curriculum and instruction quality. (this is also true of non-profits!) That said, if you are looking at the master’s level, there are _oodles_ of non-profit universities both public and private with blended or 100% online programs. I earned my master’s from a state university that offered the degree both online or on-campus.
Lunchtime Blues* January 1, 2016 at 1:06 pm I wrote in a couple of weeks ago about our employee who had very serious food allergies that were proving difficult to accommodate. At that time, we’d essentially shut down our staff kitchen and other people were struggling to figure out what they could eat. I have an update that might not be satisfying. She’s gone. As several people pointed out, we really had two issues — allergies and performance. In three months, she hadn’t gotten a handle on her new job, and what work she did do when she was here was sub-par. We called her into a meeting, and explained that we wanted to discuss performance issues. She instantly trotted out her plan for more accommodations. They were pretty crazy. She seemed to think that we were obligated to give her an entirely different position in the company that would allow her to work in a private office, or from home where her allergies would not present a problem. We told her that those positions weren’t open and even if they were, her performance in the last three months had not given us the positive impression that led to that kind of promotion. We explained that if she was going to remain at the company, she needed to improve attendance, reliability, etc, etc. She gave us a song and dance about how she was a very competent, very excellent employee who was perfectly suited to her role – if we would just appropriately manage allergens in the office . And then she dropped a bomb on us – she wasn’t taking allergy medications, hadn’t been taking them, and wasn’t going to take them. As we had been led to believe that she was going to the doctor in an effort to get the right medications to control her allergies, we were shocked to find out this was not the case. So at that point, we didn’t seen any option but to fire her. I realize that her allergies might have been at the heart of her performance issues, but she was delusional and I didn’t think the situation would improve. I’m working right now on the job ad, and I’ve made it clear that the person working in this role will be exposed to a number of common allergens.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 1:14 pm Wow. I’m glad she’s gone. Do you know if she was like this at any previous jobs? Maybe it was just the way she was showing her discomfort with this one.
Mimmy* January 1, 2016 at 1:42 pm Wow. You did the right thing. She needs to understand that an employer does not have to accommodate her if she’s not going to do her part in managing her allergies. It goes both ways. Good luck in finding a better fit for the position!
AllergySufferers* January 1, 2016 at 1:57 pm I haven’t read your previous discussions of this person, and it sounds like there were a lot of problems outside of the allergies. But not taking allergy medicines probably shouldn’t shock you so much. I have some severe allergies and I don’t take them. They only very marginally improve my symptoms, are expensive, and give me other symptoms that are difficult to manage. I’m far from an anti-med person as I do take other medications, but the only thing that helps my allergies is by avoiding the allergens. That said, I don’t put that burden on my employer. I do what I can to mitigate and expect them to still treat me with respect for cleaning my office like a mad woman all the time. But I’ve also left jobs, too. One of my biggest is mold and I’ve had to leave jobs with moldy buildings before.
Lunchtime Blues* January 1, 2016 at 2:18 pm We were shocked that she’d lied moreso than her avoidance of the medication.
New Years Turtle* January 1, 2016 at 2:02 pm There are a myriad of reasons why someone with severe allergies can’t take allergy medicine though! Women who are pregnant or trying and even sometimes breastfeeding are very limited on what allergy medicine they can take. She could have been working with an allergist to find something, only to be told there was nothing that wouldn’t interfere with her heart medication or who knows what. I also have worked closely with allergists when I had a very strange, multi-week recurring allergic reaction. We never found out what caused it unfortunately. I did not see the original post, but it sounds to me like an employee had severe allergies which caused attendance issues and then was told she could not work from home due to her attendance issues and was let go since she wasn’t taking allergy medications. : <
Lunchtime Blues* January 1, 2016 at 2:17 pm It is not possible for our production employees to work from home. All the necessary equipment and raw materials to do the job is at our place of work. Only a few of our employees could work from home, and all those positions are filled. Had one been open, her performance issues (that is, the low quality of work she’d done when she was present) would have prevented her from taking on that role. Her attendance was a serious issue, but it was less serious than the sub-par quality in her work.
asteramella* January 1, 2016 at 2:18 pm I hope your company consulted counsel before making this decision. If you’re in the U.S., she may choose to make an ADA claim.
Observer* January 1, 2016 at 3:04 pm It doesn’t mean she would win. The key here is REASONABLE accommodation, and it doesn’t sound like that was possible here. Also, ADA does not protect someone who is just not performing, unless the reason is a disability that the employer could accommodate but refuses to.
asteramella* January 1, 2016 at 5:12 pm Reasonable accommodation isn’t the only aspect of ADA that applies. Courts generally out a huge emphasis on the employer engaging in an extensive and thorough interactive process with the employee. And there are many suits involving low-performing employees who allege, and sometimes prove, that they were fired due to their disability rather than due to their poor performance, or that similar poor performers without disabilities were not treated in the same manner.
Observer* January 2, 2016 at 6:23 pm Actually, at the Federal level, the interactive process is not required if the employer can show that there really was nothing they could have done, although some states do require it, even if it’s pretty clear that the process would have gotten nowhere (think CA). And, it doesn’t necessarily have to be a long drawn process, either. As for the law suits with low performing employees, yes, they win if they can prove that they were not fired because of performance. But, that’s not the case that’s being presented here.
Maybe Tomorrow* January 1, 2016 at 4:33 pm Would you mind posting a link to the original stuff? I would love to read it.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 1, 2016 at 5:39 pm https://www.askamanager.org/2015/12/open-thread-december-4-2015.html#comment-941256
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 6:20 pm It sounds like she brought up her allergies whenever you guys brought up her performance issues. (am shaking my head).
Cath in Canada* January 1, 2016 at 1:06 pm Happy New Year, all! We’ve been spending the week dog and house sitting for my husband’s brother and his partner, who are in Barcelona. I’ve always wanted to have a dog some day (we have two awesome cats right now, as a matter of convenience), so I thought it would be a good trial run. The dogs are great and it’s been really fun, but man, you can’t take a day off like you can with cats! I don’t think we’ll be getting a dog any time soon – definitely not while we’re both working full time – but I’ll definitely be looking into it once we’re retired / have won the lottery. Sticking with cats until then though!
Cath in Canada* January 1, 2016 at 1:09 pm Dog photos: https://twitter.com/enniscath/status/681244563827081216 Ellie, the little one, took a while to warm up to me but now just wants to snuggle and lick my hand. The big guy, Seamus, is only a year old and is just a big goofy bundle of energy. We’ve been really enjoying the social aspects of the dog beaches and walks in the woods! I’ve talked to more strangers this week than I do in an average year!
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 1:27 pm I’ve considered cats a lazy person’s pet (we’ve always had cats). Spiders and snakes are even more low maintenance, but I agree that cats are much easier than dogs.
Cath in Canada* January 1, 2016 at 2:27 pm SO much easier. We’ve been going back to our own house every second day to take care of the cats. They’re always pleased to see us (they’re unusually snuggly cats), but they don’t really need us!
Applesauced* January 1, 2016 at 1:45 pm Yep. Having more than one person care for a dog is mich easier. My boyfriend is out of town for two weeks, so suddenly I’m a single (dog) parent. He’s pretty low energy but having just doubled my dog time is a lot of work!
Cath in Canada* January 1, 2016 at 2:29 pm There have been a couple of mornings when my husband was still sleeping when it was time for their first walk of the day, and taking them both out together by myself was really hard work! We’ve both been getting over a bug, and my husband usually works insanely long hours starting at 6 am, so I’ve been letting him sleep in so far on this mini-vacation – but I think I’ll wake him up from now on!
Lee Ann* January 1, 2016 at 2:33 pm My brother lives in NYC and has Jack Russells – the most hyper dog on the planet! For a while he and his girlfriend came home every lunch – one taking lunch early, the other late – so the dogs would have two midday walks. Eventually they put them in doggy day care. Meanwhile I was acquired by a Cocker Spaniel – came home to visit my mom & stepdad who had two elderly dogs plus the year-old Cocker, who decided that since those two dogs already had one person apiece, they weren’t allowed to play with me; I was *hers*. So she came home with me. Cockers are much more chill than Jack Russells and she was already past the “needs potty breaks every few hours” stage, so she was perfectly happy to be a couch potato until I got home. She was a smart girl and we did dog agility once a week until she went blind.
nep* January 1, 2016 at 2:55 pm Ooh — could I please have in-laws living in Barcelona needing a house-sitter? Nice.
Cath in Canada* January 1, 2016 at 4:57 pm They’re in Barcelona on vacation, we’re at their place in Vancouver while they’re away :)
AvonLady Barksdale* January 1, 2016 at 3:05 pm Ain’t that the truth! I have a miserable cold, but the buddy still needs to go out. We just got back from a couple of days in Atlanta, during which I woke up and took the pooch out at 3:30am (it had been POURING and he refused to go until he absolutely had to), and now we’re home and he has barfed twice. I love my dog so, so much, but yeah, no breaks unless you send them to boarding for a mini-vacation. When I worked from home, his daycare days were the best. :)
Cath in Canada* January 1, 2016 at 5:20 pm We’ve been super lucky with the weather – sunny and crisp, rather than the miserable rain of the preceding week. It would have been a very different experience if it had rained every day!
newreader* January 2, 2016 at 6:49 am Dogs are great! But I agree they’re a lot of work and time. When our last dog passed away about 6 years ago (at age 12), we realized our schedules at that point didn’t allow for the time to be fair to a dog. The 12-year-old dog was fine staying home on the couch for 8-10 hours a day, but a younger dog could be destructive with that much free time on their paws. So instead I volunteer at the local shelter to get my dog “fix” and we’ll wait until retirement or winning the lottery to have another dog. The husband is allergic to cats, so I can’t do that option.
The Butcher of Luverne* January 2, 2016 at 11:04 am I can’t see the name “Barcelona” without thinking of Freddie Mercury and Montserrat Caballe’s duet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8Eg-mWdDLc
NACSAJACK* January 4, 2016 at 6:13 pm Word! After last year’s breakup with BF, cannot believe how much effort it takes to have dogs. Even though BF never walked them, he at least was home in the evenings to let them out when I couldn’t get away from work or I was running late to my workout. Now I have to tell my workout buddies at least once a month, sorry, I’m going to be late. And they (my dogs) had my partner trained. It’s taken a year but they are getting me trained too, finally.
Today's anon* January 1, 2016 at 1:08 pm I asked about cooking classes a while ago so wanted to report back. We were 9 people and divided ourselves in 3 teams; each team had 2 recipes to make, and there were 2 “all-group” recipes, where we all contributed. The instructor ran around the whole time, helping us out and bringing us all together when we reached a special technique or step he wanted to demonstrate to the whole group. At the end, we had a huge meal with all the food we had cooked (8 dishes, including 2 desserts) and there were lots of leftover to take home. It felt very “food network-y” to have a big kitchen (each group had their own stove and counter space), and all ingredients sitting there ready (and not having to wash anything up after!). It was really a lot of fun, if a bit long (4:30h), but I learned a lot. Recommended!
Cruciatus* January 1, 2016 at 1:11 pm In other news, while I haven’t made much progress toward moving out of my parents’ house (and buying my own house. I don’t have a large salary, but I’ve been saving, saving, saving. I live in an area where you can get a lot of house (3 or 4 bedrooms, full basement) in a non-scary area for about $75,000 to $100,000. Obviously it can go way above that as well, but cheaper houses are out there) I did take a step! By…buying flatware! I normally don’t like to spend money on something I may not use right away, so this was actually kind of a big deal for me. It’s a step toward the reality that, in the next few months, I will really start looking into houses (I find it too difficult to do now when it’s dark at 5 when I get off work, and since I started a new job a few months ago, I wanted to get a few paychecks under my belt). I’m starting to think about those things that will be nice to have the day I move in. I’m now looking at plates (probably will go with Corelle. It’s what we have now and they have lasted longer than I’ve even been born). Vacuums. Anything else I could buy now so that I don’t have to think of it later? I really don’t want to deal with furniture now. Pots and pans should probably be on the list. My mom bought a Vita Craft set 50 years ago that we are still using today. They have a lifetime guarantee that my mom actually used a few years ago when some of the handles were coming loose. They either fixed it or sent back brand new pots. I contacted them about a distributor in my state and there is one. It’s probably going to be at least $1000 (probably more) for a set of pots and pans. But she’s been using them for FIFTY YEARS! So they hold up. Plus the lifetime guarantee. Is it crazy to spend that amount of money (I can afford it–at least now before I start having mortgage payments)? I’m somewhat creeped out by nonstick pots and pans that make up the “best of” lists (I don’t really know why. Probably because I never use them myself and life has been OK).
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 2:07 pm That’s a lot to spend on pans, IMHO; do you even cook that much right now? I also looked around for reviews, since you can get pans that cook very nicely indeed for considerably less than that, and found at least one suggestion that the new stuff wasn’t all it was cracked up to be and the handling of the purchase is pretty shady. I’ll post it in a subsequent comment. I would really suggest waiting until you move for stuff you don’t need now, because 1) you won’t have to move the stuff and 2) the house may indicate priorities other than the ones you’re thinking of currently. You may find you’d rather get new windows and a $10 pan from Goodwill than $1k of pans.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 2:08 pm http://vitacraftscam.blogspot.com/2011/01/vita-craft-scam-celebrity-china.html
Cruciatus* January 1, 2016 at 4:41 pm It’s all very confusing. The Celebrity China stuff–I don’t know what that’s about. It doesn’t look like the stuff I’m talking about which you see if you google “vita craft kansas”. But I think they might be part of the same company. But those pots and pans (with black handles, knobs on the pan lids) are what I know–the Celebrity China stuff doesn’t look right. They aren’t the products that are in the (recent) Vita Craft catalog we have. I don’t know if Celebrity China is like Toyota, and Vita Craft is Acura (bad example since I like Toyota–but you get my point).
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 4:48 pm Yeah, like with electronics, too. However, I’d still want to find out for myself, from somebody who isn’t a company rep, how the new stuff cooked before I spent $1k on it during a time when I’m really needing money to start a household. You can always spend it in another couple of years, after all–it’s not now or never.
Cruciatus* January 1, 2016 at 2:52 pm I don’t cook a lot at the moment, a few times a week. But I will cook almost every meal myself once I move. The other comment hasn’t posted yet, but I do know there are different Vita Crafts. A Japanese one, another one, and the one I’m looking at from Shawnee, Kansas. It’s possible they aren’t they same quality anymore. But they just have the benefit of being used for 50 years and still looking pretty good and I saw the company actually fulfill their lifetime guarantee. About getting stuff now…as it is now, I really only have a few car fulls of stuff that I would need to bring immediately. I haven’t collected a lot of furniture, I borrowed most everything I used the last time I lived alone from friends (microwave, dishes, utensils, etc.). I will have a very empty house/apartment/whatever for a while! But for now I am keeping my purchases smaller with flatware and dishes.
Pennalynn Lott* January 1, 2016 at 3:22 pm Yep, within a year of buying my house I needed to replace the microwave, the water heater, the dishwasher and the disposer.
Anna* January 1, 2016 at 4:22 pm Or you could do what we did and have a kitchen fire so insurance replaces the old everything. We’re still trying to figure out how to set fire to the bathroom and now, apparently, we need to work out how to catch the roof, too.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 6:43 pm I really need to have a small, targeted tornado suck my bathroom right out through the window.
periwinkle* January 1, 2016 at 5:22 pm Microwave, dishwasher, washer & dryer, and refrigerator – all replaced since we bought the house last February. The disposal needs replacement eventually. We have our fingers crossed that the range will remain cooperative until we’re ready to renovate the kitchen in a couple years! Regarding cookware: if you don’t cook a lot, do not buy some expensive cookware that may or may not be worth the price. Start with the basics – non-stick frying pan, covered 3-qt saute pan, 2 or 3 saucepans, and a small stockpot will get you started. You do not need top of the line gear at this point! If you’re near an IKEA, the IKEA 365+ line of cookware is pretty solid stuff and you could outfit your kitchen for less than $200 (and that includes pot holders, cutting boards, dish towels, a big colander, etc.). When you have more experience cooking and have a strong sense of what pans you’re using all the time, *then* you shell out the big bucks for the high-end pans. You might also find that you don’t need expensive pans in the first place; my absolutely favorite pan is a 12″ aluminum frying pan purchased from a restaurant supply store for $10 or so. Knives, on the other hand, are worth spending some $$$ – I still use the same 8″ Henckels chef knife that I bought in 1998 and my mother’s Japanese vegetable knife that dates back to the early 1970s.
Alma* January 1, 2016 at 8:43 pm I just moved (and am in the process of seriously downsizing my “stuff”). Start watching prices on those items you know you’ll need (vacuum, bedding and bath towels, flatware, pots and pans). They definitely have times of the year when the prices are really the lowest. Buy 18-10 flatware rather than 18-8. It makes a huge difference in strength (“the spoon in the ice cream test” from shopping TV). I found great prices on well known brands in 4 setting packages at national chain stores. Don’t buy a set of pots/pans. Start out with a skillet, an 8 qt stock pot, and a heavier (like Le Creuset or Staub) 4 to 6 qt casserole with lid. For the skillet and stock pot, watch when brands offer “try me” pieces, and you can pick up a skillet for half of what it would be open stock. If you have the time, go to estate sales or downsizing sales and get them for a song. My favorite piece is Le Creuset “brasier” which looks like a skillet with two small handles on the sides instead of one long handle. It has a lid, and with the short handles it goes into the oven, too. I use it for eggs and stovetop stuff, as well as roasts and chicken in the oven. Then if you find you could really use another piece, get it. Choose it for its functionality rather than what it matches.
Katie the Fed* January 2, 2016 at 8:42 am I love that LC braiser :). Although I think my most-used enanameled cast iron piece overall is the 5.5 quart Staub I bought 12 years ago. It was my first piece of self-bought cookware (as opposed to my mom’s old stuff) and I love it.
Pineapple Incident* January 4, 2016 at 9:52 am I love your username. Emily Gilmore however, hates you to her core.
Colette* January 1, 2016 at 2:16 pm If you want to pick up a few things, here are some suggestions: – a shower curtain – garbage cans (bathroom, kitchen) – a few cleaning supplies – broom and dustpan – mop The small stuff adds up when you’re moving into a new place.
Catherine in Canada* January 1, 2016 at 2:37 pm New sheets, towels, blankets, quilts/bedspread. Presumably you might be able to take stuff from Mom and Dad’s house, but it’s nice to have new. (and don’t fall for the patterned or coloured sheet trap – get white and white towels.)
Katie the Fed* January 2, 2016 at 8:54 am Hi Cruciatus! First off – congrats on saving so much! That’s really impressive. For your house, I strongly recommend getting a home warranty for at least the first year. It will cover all appliances and plumbing in the house, so if something big fails – like the HVAC – you’ll be covered to fix or replace it with a small deductible. It’s really good peace of mind. Now, for your dishes and flatware. Costco has really nice flatware – my set is from them and has held up beautifully, minus a few spoons that met their end in the garbage disposal. Corelle is nice and simple, and you can always upgrade later when you have a better sense of your style. I stupidly bought a set of beautiful Pfalzgraf with a pattern when I got a house, and it didn’t go with anything else. Plain white is a good set to start with. For Glassware – target and Ikea have very decent stuff. No need to spend a ton on that. Now, for my favorite topic – cookware! Not sure how much you cook, but you can get some good stuff for well under what you think you’ll be spending. I’d go for mostly tri-ply stainless steel. You don’t need many pieces to start with. I’m a big All-Clad fan but I also live near a Williams Sonoma outlet and get it pretty cheap. Tramontina at Costco is pretty good, and the Cuisin-art Multi-clad consistently gets great reviews and is probably the best value for your money. I think the following pieces are essential: 2 quart saucepan – stainless steel 4 quart saucepan or soup pot – stainless steel 10-11 inch skillet – stainless steel 10 inch nonstick skillet for eggs and omelets 10-12 inch cast iron skillet – lodge is a good brand for this Stock pot – no need to go for tri-ply/clad on this – basic SS is fine Enameled cast iron pot – 5.5 – 7 quarts. Staub or Le Creuset – this is your splurge piece. Now, you also need a good chef’s knife. Zwilling Online has great deals on Henckels knives, but you want to research the different lines. I’m also pretty partial to Wusthof (classic, precision, or Ikon II lines) and have way too many knives. I’d get a basic chef’s knife – 8-9 inches, a smaller one, a serated knife, a couple paring knives, and that should be plenty. If you don’t know how to use a knife well, I’d take a knife skills class at WS or Sur la Table. That should be enough to get you started :) Have fun – these are great days ahead of you!
The Butcher of Luverne* January 2, 2016 at 11:19 am Somewhat crazy, yes! I’m all about buying quality when it makes sense, but may I offer a suggestion? All you need for a good basic kitchen setup is one good cast-iron fry pan, a 2-quart saucepan w/lid and a Dutch oven. Use Bed Bath & Beyond coupons and get them all at 20% off.
Cruciatus* January 2, 2016 at 6:04 pm Thank you, everyone! I am taking down everything people have suggested. Another reason I’m doing this a bit early is just so I can keep an eye on deals. I’m not in a hurry so the chances I’ll get the best deal are good. I will hold off on $1000 pans but I think I’ll stick with stainless steel (whenever I do buy). I’m used to the clean up of our pans and it really doesn’t bother me (much). I probably use 4 different pots and pans regularly so I don’t need a huge set. Too bad nonstick are the main ones that are reviewed though. Even in Consumers. But I do have a few cheap-o pans that will get me through a few weeks once I am in a new place so it’s not a critical decision at this point. And if anyone is interested, the flatware I did buy was Oneida’s Cloister which is 18/10. It’s not too fussy or weirdly thin (there are some WEIRD choices out there that don’t seem practical to me–example, Crate & Barrel’s Aero Mirror flatware. I am frustrated just *looking* at it! Much too thin for my liking).
Christina @ My Homespun Home* January 3, 2016 at 3:20 pm In addition to the suggestions about pans, check out a restaurant supply store. The best pot I have I got from one of these places, it has a super thick bottom so it cooks incredibly evenly, it’s all metal so it can go in the oven, and is just generally a work horse meant to stand up to a commercial kitchen. I’ll post a link to one similar to what I got.
Christina @ My Homespun Home* January 3, 2016 at 3:27 pm This is similar to what I have http://www.amazon.com/COMMERCIAL-STAINLESS-STEEL-SAUCE-PAN/dp/B000FNK3XG I’d suggest getting a small one (enough to heat up a serving of soup or hard boil a few eggs) and a medium. I think I have a 1qt now and need to get a 3 or 4 qt to replace my Farberware that the handle keeps getting loose on.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 2:40 pm I have whatever decent store-brand line Macy’s was selling 25 years ago when I got married. My grandmother-in-law-to-be bought me a set. They’re great! They work really well, and they’re not likely to break anytime soon. The lifetime guarantee is just not that big a deal. But if a handle did come off? I don’t need a lifetime warranty, because I can replace the whole set for about $150–that’s what I spent to get a similar set, of BETTER quality, for a friend who was moving out on his own for the first time (a bunch of us went in on it, as a housewarming present). They are really tough, and really great looking. So no, I wouldn’t recommend $1,000 for cookware. I think most people can go a lifetime with a $200 set; and those who can’t, can just get a replacement set for another $200. That’s a $600 savings.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 2:54 pm Oh, and I *do* suggest you get a set, because they’re just so economical. Choose carefully, to get a decent spread of saucepans, and plan to add on an open-stock pan now and then.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 2:56 pm One other thought–you’ll be starting out cooking for one, so you’ll need smaller saucepans early on.
katamia* January 1, 2016 at 1:13 pm I’ve been job hunting, and a lot of the jobs I’m finding that fit my experience and field interests are either admin jobs or jobs with a lot of admin responsibilities. Unfortunately, having worked as an admin in the past, I know that at my best I’m a mediocre admin. I can’t anticipate what coworkers or clients need but can try to help (but will sometimes fail) if people tell me what they need. I can answer phones, but I’m awkward and not good at placating angry clients. And I just don’t care enough about my appearance, honestly, to remain at that level of “polished professional” that a lot of places around here seem to want–my hair is frizzy (and the frizziness doesn’t bother me), I don’t wear makeup, my wardrobe is in dire need of a tailor (which I can’t afford), and I have little to no fashion sense and zero interest in acquiring any. Obviously I’d try hard and improve over time, but I don’t think I could ever be really great at an admin job. Some of these admin jobs are at organizations I’d really like to work for, and I know at least some of them tend to promote from within. But I also feel like I wouldn’t have a good chance to show my bosses in these jobs (if I even got any of them) what I’m capable of other than my fabulous typing skills, which…yeah, those won’t help me move up. :P Have any of you been in this type of situation? How did you handle getting past a job you weren’t as good at to something you were better suited for? Or am I better off just focusing on jobs that play a little more to my strengths?
Biff* January 1, 2016 at 1:20 pm I’ve found that “How did you handle getting past a job you weren’t as good at to something you were better suited for?” isn’t really how it works. The jobs that seem to be behind a ‘gateway’ job like this often build on skills you gained. That is, if you are expected to be polished, able to anticipate client needs, and have smooth phone operation as an admin, you might not use those skills as MUCH in the next job, but they are expected to be there. I think you need to focus on jobs that play to your strengths.
katamia* January 1, 2016 at 2:33 pm The jobs that seem to be behind a ‘gateway’ job like this often build on skills you gained. Huh. That honestly never occurred to me before. I suspected that “focus on what you’re good at” would be the advice I got, but that’s a useful “why” for me. I’ve mostly been in teaching and/or self-employed, so I don’t have a great sense of how things progress in a lot of office environments or how different office jobs really connect to one another. Thanks.
Clever Name* January 1, 2016 at 3:30 pm Okay teaching. That’s a good start. Do you like teaching? Looking for trainer positions might be a good place to start.
katamia* January 2, 2016 at 3:23 am Hm. I don’t really know much about becoming a trainer–having never been through any kind of corporate or nonprofit training, I don’t know what sort of things people usually get trained on other than maybe various kinds of software (which I’m not, at this point, qualified to train anyone on, although I might be able to learn). I was a decent teacher (certainly much better at it and enjoyed it more than admin work), but I don’t think I really have any skills that I could leverage into becoming a trainer. I’ll look into it, though, and see if it looks like a good fit/something to pursue.
Alma* January 1, 2016 at 8:54 pm A tailor may be able to do what you need very inexpensively. You might also know someone with a fancy sewing machine who will trade out tailoring your clothes to work for you for babysitting, or running errands, or something else she needs help with.
katamia* January 2, 2016 at 5:52 am Unfortunately, all my friends who sew live far away from me, too far for me to use their services. I’ll keep an eye out in case I can find a tailor whose prices are closer to what I can afford, although I doubt it’ll be able to happen for awhile, unfortunately.
Clever Name* January 1, 2016 at 3:29 pm So it sounds like admin work isn’t for you, and that’s okay to admit that. I think it would be helpful to write down what you are good at and what you enjoy doing. Doesn’t have to be overlapping. Then look for jobs that match that and brainstorm how your experience fits in to those jobs. It doesn’t have to be a 1:1 match of everything listed. Apply to stretch jobs and see what happens. You may be surprised. :)
katamia* January 2, 2016 at 3:40 am That’s sort of the problem–a lot of the jobs I’ve been finding have admin-type jobs as their entry-level openings, and then I’m completely unqualified (I don’t mean “this job is a bit of a stretch,” I mean “this job wants 10 years of experience doing similar work when I have zero, plus they want a language I don’t speak and two computer programs I’ve never learned that would be prohibitively expensive for me to learn”) for almost anything else. I’ve been trying to find a steadier income than self-employment (I left teaching to become self-employed), but it really looks like at a lot of the places I’d be interested in working, it’s admin or nothing.
misspiggy* January 2, 2016 at 9:01 am Sounds like finding a place that is a good fit is the first step, so that being an administrator for them is a role you can fulfil well. In the UK it might be health or social housing organisations, or animal/youth/drugs charities, which would be a good fit. I’m thinking places where a polished appearance isn’t necessary, but an administrator or receptionist needs a strong and kind manner, flexibility, and the ability to pick up a range of different things on the hop – as with teaching. You’ve probably got a lot more transferable skills from teaching than you realise. Maybe trying to set up informational interviews in different fields would give you a better sense of which types of organisation would offer admin jobs that you would shine in.
katamia* January 3, 2016 at 5:47 am Oh, good point. I haven’t been looking at many of those types of organizations because I’ve been hoping to transition more toward what I studied in college, but maybe that’s too big a leap. Something like the organizations you mention (I’m US, but we have a lot of similar organizations in my area) might be a good way to get partway toward what I think I want and also get a better sense of what other organizations might be a good fit for me. I’ll definitely look more into those.
periwinkle* January 1, 2016 at 5:43 pm Figure out your strengths first. Take a little quiet time to write down the answers to these questions: 1. For each job I’ve ever had, what tasks did I enjoy the most? 2. What are the common threads for those tasks? 3. For each job I’ve ever had, what did my managers/peers/customers praise me for? 4. What are the common threads to those praiseworthy things? I figured out that I really loved anything analytical and was most often praised for skill in figuring out the connection between Data Point A and Data Point B. With that identified, plus some other traits, I figured out a good direction and worked toward it. In 2008 I was a really mediocre administrative assistant. Now I get to be analytical all day and it is loads of fun. They don’t mind my utter lack of fashion sense.
katamia* January 2, 2016 at 3:32 am If you’re comfortable sharing, how did you find ways to demonstrate your analytical skills while working as an admin assistant? I think I have a pretty good sense of what my skills are (some analytical, some writing, mainly), but when I worked as an admin before, I never really had an opportunity to demonstrate my skills–I never got to do much beyond phones, dropping off/picking up documents, and typing and filing. And this may have just been the particular company I was working for, but I never really got opportunities to do anything else. My boss seemed perfectly happy to let me read webcomics in my downtime (I was 20 and not particularly motivated, but even now when I reflect on that job, I can’t imagine what I could have done to really show off what I could do).
NoTurnover* January 2, 2016 at 10:20 am The things you’re saying concern me a little that the fields/companies you’re concentrating on may not be a good fit for you–or that you may need to make some changes in order to have a good shot. If it’s important to be a “polished professional” as an admin, professional appearance will probably be an expectation for more senior staff, too. (In my subfield, it would matter very little at either level.) If you get angry clients as an admin, the people higher up probably get them, too (only they probably get the more complicated ones that have been escalated). Basically what Biff said–often, the skills admins have are also needed higher up. I don’t think that means you have to be an absolutely awesome admin in order to have any chance of advancing, but the skills you mention seem to me like ones that would probably remain important in a company that values them. It sounds like you may be in a tough financial situation, so if you need to find employment with one of these companies, maybe it’s time to fake it a bit with appearance, improving phone skills, etc.? (I wouldn’t like it either–at least not the appearance part–but if necessary I could do it for a while while continuing to look for something that’s a better fit.)
katamia* January 2, 2016 at 11:17 am I don’t *need* to find employment with one of these companies. This is me trying to take things to the next level, since I’ve been mostly self-employed recently (other than a truly disastrous non-admin office job that I did have to quit for my health), and I’m looking for a steadier income. So, yes, finances are definitely an issue–I’m not making enough through self-employment to get a tailor or buy a bunch of makeup to figure out what looks good on me or anything like that, but it’s not an “admin job or be homeless” situation or even close to it. Also, the self-employment (working from home, no required meetings or Skyping or anyone ever seeing what I look like) probably has not helped the appearance thing, lol.
Bee* January 6, 2016 at 1:13 pm I think you need to make a compromise if you really want to work for those places. I don’t think frizzy hair is unprofessional, but certainly a little makeup can go a long way – when I don’t wear it, I’m constantly asked if I’m tired or ill! Which isn’t a good impression to give so I do put on a little makeup every day. I have worked with many makeup artists as a photographer and picked up lots of tips from them so if you’d like some pointers on what to wear on a budget, I’d be happy to help :) it’s sad but true that we get judged by our appearances still !
Mimmy* January 1, 2016 at 1:22 pm Happy New Year everyone!! Cannot believe it’s 2016 already! Some New Year musings… New Years can be really tough for me. With each passing year, I get more and more disheartened about where I am in life. I always say I’m going to finally try something only to chicken out at the last minute. For example, I was going to meet up with a couple of classmates in New York City last month, but once I realized how HUGE Penn Station is (I’d be going by train), I was like “uh…no thanks!” I know I would get incredibly overwhelmed. Even in terms of career development, I’ve stayed stuck because I’m afraid it will lead to a dead-end yet again, just like everything else. I know that’s an unhealthy attitude and a cycle that I really need to break this year. Actually, what I really is someone to talk to one-on-one to sort out my ideas and worries. My counselor is wonderful, but I feel like I need something more hands-on, like coaching maybe.
Christy* January 1, 2016 at 2:30 pm Sounds like a new therapist would do you some good. Mine is all about tools for confronting the world.
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 2:38 pm I agree with Christy. Your counselor may indeed by wonderful, but it sounds as if your counselor isn’t also giving you what you need at this point, so you may want to find a new one who will help you tackle your current concerns. By the way, feeling overwhelmed at Penn Station is a totally normal thing. I had to meet up with people there recently, and it was a bit annoying. We didn’t know what entrance or Hudson News we were each at, even with cell phones. I don’t know much about your career, but I will say that I’ve seen some extremely fulfilled people who have terribly dead-end and boring jobs—they’re usually artists who have a day job doing admin stuff (steady paycheck and benefits) and then have their art they do on the nights and weekends. That may not be you at all… just throwing that out there. I know many of us feel pressure to have a job that’s fulfilling and a career track that makes sense or goes to ever-increasing responsibility.
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 7:00 pm I can’t tell from the examples, but are you trying to take too big a step? Like going into the city- I would find that daunting to the point I would not go by myself. However, what about a smaller city nearer to you? Can you get yourself there, maybe shop in a couple stores and come back home? That is just an example, it may or may not be relevant to what you have going on. However, I am thinking of smaller steps. So looking at your career/work life, what small steps could you take that would make you feel a tiny bit unstuck? Maybe sign up for an online class or take a class at a college close by? Maybe join some sort of group activity? Pick a challenge that you stand a good chance of having success at. Notice, I say A challenge, not TEN challenges. Don’t beat yourself up, chose one thing and give it a run, such as do one class and see how it goes. Or decide to join a group for six months and see how it goes. My wise friend told me that when we get stuck in life that is a time of “building up”. And building up can be whatever that means to you, it can be financial (savings), professional (education and other career oriented things), personal (family/hobbies) etc. So I think you are on the right track about needing hands on stuff to plan and do, because it would build you up. So my wise friend went on to say, do one thing at a time. That way you can tell what is working and how everything else shifts with the addition of this new thing. It’s important not to make it massive with lots of changes, because you want to carefully consider each change/activity and weave it into your day-to-day life. Think about renovating a house, you would go room by room and say to yourself, “What is needed in this room?” This is more of that type of step-by-step thinking.
misspiggy* January 2, 2016 at 9:13 am You sound a little bit like a friend of mine, who has quite a lot of anxiety but has built a life she enjoys. She is very clear what she isn’t up for, and simply doesn’t do those things. She’s also clear on what gives her pleasure and satisfaction, and when those areas require her to stretch her boundaries, she does it, but not too often. She won’t travel very far to see friends – and explains that, so we know it’s not that she doesn’t like us. But once a year she will visit countries she’s interested in, or which her partner wants to visit. She’ll minimise stress on those trips by booking well in advance with the same travel company, staying at the airport the night before the flight, and so on. When she’s had to deal with life stresses like illness in the family, she’s gone to the doctor and got medication to tide her over, as soon as she notices an increase in anxiety. It’s the opposite of my approach to life, but I really respect her for knowing herself so well and unapologetically setting boundaries.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 3:01 pm Yeah, I often think I’d rather have a life coach than a mental-health counselor. Are there any near you? I don’t know if they’d be covered under health insurance, the way my psychologist/therapist was/is. But that’s what I’d look for. Or, since you do still deal with some “I’m overwhelmed!” issues, maybe find a counselor that can delve into more practical stuff.
Anonymous Geographer* January 1, 2016 at 1:23 pm So, my week has been interesting… One of my jobs is disaster modeling for a county that just got hit by a massive flood this week. We broke the all time records set in 1993 on one river and 1982 on the other. We had to sandbag 500-year flood levees because they were overtopping. I had to build a 50 mile long flood inundation model working all night on Sunday night (after driving in 4 hrs from out of state where I was on vacation), and revise it every time the projection went up (which happened four times). I am not a hydrologist, but I have trained myself enough to build off the flood gage predictions made by the real hydrologists. We had about 25 sites of concern, and I hit every single one of them +/- 20ft on horizontal flood distance (which means I hit the flood depths within ~4 inches on a flood that hit 9 feet over major flood stage). I also had to build search and rescue maps, assemble US National Grid based field guides, update road closures and build an adaptive web app for that (21,000 users), deploy a damage assessment application, build a map series for FEMA building inspectors, and troubleshoot dozens of IT problems; and ran an ad hoc team of 5 people all from other departments to fill in the hundreds of one-off requests from 15 other support teams. Crazy week, which leads to a problem I have having. I kept getting everything dead on right this week. All my projections are right, all my apps are working, all my prep work is flowing together so that nearly everyone is getting the materials they need. I have spent several hundred hours over the last 8 years since our last major flood putting all of this in place, but it has never been used, so to me it is a complete miracle that this works. Every time someone says something positive about it, I keep deflecting by telling them how incredibly lucky I got. I cannot get my self to say, “Well yeah, I took train-the-trainer courses on US National Grid and became the statewide instructor for our state in it, so that’s why I had all of the maps and romers on hand and knew how to build new ones from scratch” or “That inundation model I am using took 3 months to build and I ran it by a half dozen hydrologists for their input; I had it on hand just in case it flooded and could build a new model for unprecedented levels because I knew every step of how to build a new model from scratch.” Nope, I just say, “Can you believe how lucky I got with that? It turned out perfectly, that never happens!” This is compounded by one department being hypercritical of everything I do because I am switched our systems to nearly all digital, and they want nothing to do with digital forms/maps and want everything paper, by hand if necessary. So they are very vocal about what a “failure” everything is, while I am having a hard time supporting my successes. Not sure how to turn this around and address this during the rest of the incident and after, but I feel like I need to do something so people understand that the hypercritical department is not representative of my work.
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 1:33 pm You just described very well how digital and the preliminary work you have done has been successful. Continue to point out the benefits of having that in place, how you were glad you did all that work up front so that this was available when it was needed. When you use the word ‘lucky’ add to it that there was a lot of work putting it in place, and while you feel lucky that it worked so well, better than you expected, it is also luck based on hard work and science, so even when it doesn’t work as well, it will still be better than doing it the old way, doing it by hand and on paper.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 1:36 pm Ah, I know where you’re talking about; I’ve been watching the rise (not in person, fortunately for me). Does it mean anything that your self-credit statements are comparatively long and complicated and your deflection is simple? I know when I take deserved credit I don’t generally employ such long and detailed descriptions. What about something shorter–“I worked hard, so I’m glad it’s paid off,” or if people are genuinely asking for a little more specifics, a short version: “It was becoming the statewide instructor on the grid that did it. I really recommend that.” I’m just wondering if you feel so much pent-up desire for credit, because of your hypercritical department, that it’s spilling into these longer explanations. And in most situations I’d say you’re right not to use those, but I don’t think the alternative has to be “I just got lucky”–it can be “Yup, put in the hours and it shows.”
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 3:02 pm Oh yeah, a short and easy statement is a great idea. If they want to know more, you can give it. If you say lucky, they won’t ask for more.
edj3* January 1, 2016 at 1:40 pm I know where you are too, and I’ve been watching with sick fascination. My family lived in Cape Girardeau for a while and while I wasn’t there very long, you just can’t live there and not be aware of the power of the mighty Mississippi. And yes, you need to learn to say thank you and then stop talking. You did a lot of excellent work in a difficult field and that work was clearly valuable and needed.
asteramella* January 1, 2016 at 1:52 pm “Thank you, I’m glad the work has paid off.” “Thank you, I’m glad this information has been useful.” “Thank you, it’s great that we’ve been well-prepared.” “Thank you, please let me know if you have any suggestions to improve our offerings.” Remove the words “lucky,” “chance,” “coincidence” and the like from your vocabulary. Say thank you and express optimism and resolve. People won’t think you’re arrogant if you do this, but they might think you’re stupid if you downplay your work in an attempt to be humble.
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 7:07 pm I love these responses and if the urge to deflect kicks in, your go-to can be “please let me know if you have any suggestions to improve our offerings”. Please practice these in front of the mirror.
New Years Turtle* January 1, 2016 at 2:10 pm I use to be a compliment deflector. Then someone pointed out that every time I deny someone’s compliment, I’m signaling that I don’t think they are smart enough to know what good is. In essence, I’m insulting someone trying to compliment me. Now I simply say “Thank you” or “I appreciate that” whenever someone compliments me and it has help improve my working relationships a lot.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 6:53 pm Ohhh this is a very good observation. I think people don’t want to toot their own horns too much, and accepting a compliment feels a little bit like tooting by proxy! But this is so right.
Anonymous Geographer* January 1, 2016 at 3:26 pm Well, they are not really compliments, just positive comments about the work products not directed towards anyone particular. We are a cynical group as a whole, so compliments tend to come out as, “At least this thing was not screwed up” rather than “This thing worked really well”. No one really knows that I did any of the heavy lifting, just the very easy end products. For example, since the flood levels come from NOAA, everyone (including my bosses) think the inundation data comes from NOAA too and I just have to drop it onto a map. Basically, everything looks easy because of the prep work, so no one really thinks that anything all that amazing happened. I think asteramella’s approach might work well with this problem though, but approaching it as a group outcome while still taking some responsibility for the outcomes. The hypercritical department, meanwhile, wants things I do not have and have to make from scratch, so they take hours. They have been pretty vocal to my co-workers, my boss, and his boss, that they thought I was just screwing around for hours doing nothing while they waited.
Clever Name* January 1, 2016 at 3:38 pm I think it’s okay to take credit. Just saying, “I’m so glad it’s working smoothly. It’s taken years of work” or something.
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 7:20 pm If your goal is to change the HC department, that probably won’t happen. They enjoy being Negative Nancys and that is huge part of their identity. If you try to change that, you are taking away their identity. So maybe the best you can do there is to get them to quit whining for five minutes. Almost not worth it, right? I think of everything you have said, the part that bothers me is that your bosses do not know what you did. When the dust settles, perhaps you can write up what you have done to achieve the accuracy you got here. Or maybe you can organize a group autopsy of what went right, under the heading of “we are looking for good practices and what we should keep doing.” Stop letting that HC department have so much space in your head. You have proven to you, the most important person in this story, that they are full of hot air. How much more proof do you personally need? None, right? So now it is time to go forward and show TPTB what you have done and show why it works. Let the HC department stand back and talk to each other while you chug on ahead.
Alma* January 1, 2016 at 9:42 pm Ooooh yes, a group de-brief. The whole group will value that document, instead of it just being there on the record. The work that you did, with the de-brief, might be useful for other Emergency Management or Planning departments since everywhere is flooding this year. I think it’s got legs. It was nearly 15 years ago when my Dad and I stood in Paducah, watching the flood gates be put up. Dad saw the ’36 flood in Louisville, and most of the people watching that afternoon had never seen the flood gates go up in their lifetime. They were actually taking pictures.
Anonymous Geographer* January 2, 2016 at 12:33 pm We will definitely be doing an after action report for the whole operation. While my tactics and strategy will not make it into the AAR, at least a few people up the line will see it. I did pass my methods on to a hydrology group at the national level who works on these sort of things. It seems to work well when you have gaps in information necessary to build a full inundation model.
Belle diVedremo* January 7, 2016 at 8:23 pm I’m days behind on reading but hope you’ll see this in case it’s useful. For your boss, can you do a summary of what you sent to the national hydrology group, and include in it where you got your data (so he knows you didn’t “just drop it in”)? I’d encourage you include a description of how you updated your work as the numbers evolved to improve your projections and recommendations to those in the field. And if possible, mention that in meetings as the AAR is developed (by now it’s likely undeway). I’ll also join the chorus of those suggesting that you change your language from “lucky” to “achieved” now that you know your methods worked. If someone asks, you can say you felt lucky to be right, but are glad that your methodology was so successful. And so successful that you’ve been asked for it by the national hydrology group. There are so many people (and critters, and crops) in the path of these rivers. Thank you so much.
Nerfmobile* January 1, 2016 at 7:41 pm Also, consider finding a way to share how all the prep work led up to this, after every thing calms down again. If your org holds brown bag lunches or other internal trainings, schedule one or two where you talk through specific pieces of effort and how that played out in the disaster response. That way you can help others understand the prep work involved and discuss how to take the next steps for next time.
Clever Name* January 1, 2016 at 3:35 pm First of all, THANK YOU for the work you’re doing. You are saving lives. As for the compliments, practice looking in the mirror and smiling and saying, “thanks”. :)
Clever Name* January 1, 2016 at 3:36 pm Also, if you’re working with a team, it’s gracious to say, “Thanks. It was a lot of hard work, but I couldn’t have done it without [team]”
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 6:52 pm As someone who has family right freaking there (fortunately, they all live on higher ground and nobody had to evacuate, though I ended up driving home after Christmas in that storm, which was one of the most terrifying drives I’ve ever taken), I just want to say thank you for doing this work. Just because nobody I know needed it now doesn’t mean they won’t–55 was flooded VERY CLOSE to where my mum lives. I don’t know what to advise other than saying, “It took a lot of work over time, and I’m really glad we had it when we needed it.” But I’m available for kicking the hypercritical people if you like. >:(
Anonymous Geographer* January 1, 2016 at 7:29 pm They are on my last nerve right now. Just after my boss and his boss left, as I was getting ready to leave, they dropped an enormous batch of “must have tonight” work on me. Second night in a row they did this after all the rest of my team left too. That was 2 hrs ago, and I still have 1-2 hrs more left to finish off what they want.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 3:08 pm For one thing, stop saying “I got lucky” or using the word “unbelievable.” Those aren’t accurate. So *be* accurate. “We worked hard to get here,” that’s a good phrase. It includes your teammates, your boss who supported all the work -you- did. And it points out (for the future) that this level of accuracy and thoroughness took work, and if they want more of this quality in the future, they’ll need to give you all the same opportunities to put in the work. Or: “I’m grateful we had the time to create these tools before they were needed.” Again–it’s accepting the compliment, but focusing on other people, or the effects of the good work, or what went into the Great Thing that’s being complimented. or: “I’m glad we were able to alert people to the danger.” This also lets the compliment stand unchallenged and focuses on the outcome for everyone. These are all really good strategies for accepting compliments. In a way, they’re all the same. Also, using the pronoun “we” is very useful in the followup. Because while you did all that work, you didn’t do it alone; you had the “village” helping you: the people who gave you time in the workday, who paid you, who encouraged you, who put copier paper in the copier machine, etc. All those people enabled you to do the work you did ahead of time. And some of them may have contributed much more materially. So say “we.” And talk about how rapidly you (plural: “we”) were able to provide this info -because- of the digitalization of everything.
Grumpy career changer* January 1, 2016 at 1:36 pm So, first, a big thank you to the commenters here for providing helpful advice and great stories all year round. This blog, and especially the comments, helped me get through a long job search this year. No, last year! Now I’m in the happy position of needing advice about starting a great new job, exactly what I was looking for. Here’s my “problem” — there was an internal candidate who wanted the job. I have no reason to think that the disappointed candidate will be unprofessional about it at all. Still, I want to do what I can to make the situation work well. Any thoughts?
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 2:33 pm I was in a similar situation when I got hired. My future co-worker had applied for my position and not gotten it. She was, frankly, unprofessional about it and for the first two months gave me attitude of the “prove to me you’re more qualified for this position than I am” variety. I’m hoping your co-worker won’t be like that. Still, I’ve managed by actually proving myself to my manager (not my co-worker) and also, sadly, occasionally massaging her ego by complimenting her on the things she is good at. I absolutely agree with my boss that I was a better fit for my position, but I also genuinely appreciate the things this person offers to our team and am audible about it. I think you have to feel out how insecure this person is. If she welcomes you to the team and seems to genuinely not hold anything against you (it’s not your fault, after all), awesome. But you may just have to play some politics to smooth things out otherwise.
Dr. Johnny Fever* January 1, 2016 at 4:21 pm Ditto on feeling out the new coworker before saying a work. Definitely do not lead off with some preamble about making things work despite the other person not getting the role. For now, wait and assume nothing. See how you work together. If you have friction, address the source of the friction only. Any thoughts that friction or tension is based on the other person’s disappointment is speculation on your part, and it’s best not to raise it or assume it. If you are wrong about the assumption, voicing it to that person could make things worse. Keep in mind that you have nothing to prove or justify to that person. If ill will is directly toward you, that’s on the other person. Check out the reader update on “Tim” a few days ago – it’s an extreme example, but if misplaced anger is sent your way, don’t feed it. Deflect it. If it gets bad enough, talk to the person, then talk to your leader – but again, address the observed behavior, not the speculation. Your leader can read between the lines (hopefully).
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 7:47 pm How do you know there was an internal candidate? Did the boss tell you? If so, maybe you can get an idea from the boss what this person was told when you were hired. And this maybe something that you do by just passively listening to everything the boss says in the hopes finding a clue. You may find out there is an opening for the coworker in six months. Or the boss may say that the person is slated to go to another department. Who knows. Meanwhile, start at square one. You are very happy to have this new job, you’re excited to meet everyone and looking forward to working with them. That is your starting point, give everyone this same message. Figure that it will be up to you to be sincere and be outgoing and treat everyone the same. That may carry you right through this whole thing, sincerity and fairness can carry us a long way.
Artemesia* January 3, 2016 at 1:01 pm IN starting a new job that has supervisory authority (I am assuming this does — if not then this may have to be drastically modified) it is always a good idea to sit down with each person and get their input — it is a way to get acquainted, get the lay of the land, and sometimes identify real issues you need to address. If the group is too large, you can meet with teams or small groups. If it is common knowledge that this person was a candidate, you can bring up that you understand this, and talk about working together going forward. If you are a co-worker and not supervisor in this position, then do this also but more informally — seek out coffee or lunch with people to hear their views not as the new boss but as a new co-worker.
Owl* January 1, 2016 at 2:01 pm Just finished The Knockoff by Lucy Sykes and Jo Piazza. It felt like a giant AAM letter. I didn’t like how it treated Millenials per sé, but sometimes it was very accurate from my experiences. Anyone read it?
Carrie in Scotland* January 1, 2016 at 4:32 pm I really liked it (I read it under the name Techbitch which is perhaps the European/UK title) and thought it was a very cutting view of the fashion world. (I’m sure not all young people are like that, though!)
Bantha Pudu* January 1, 2016 at 2:07 pm I have a work situation that either requires polite agreement or tactful assertion, and I can’t decide which route to go. My direct supervisor, while nice enough, is pretty self-centered, and doesn’t always have the best grasp on appropriate workplace boundaries. She was diagnosed with cancer earlier this year, went through treatment, and is now cancer-free. It’s been a rough few months, and I’m glad she’s come through so strong. The thing is, nearly every conversation she brings up somehow revolves around cancer, from the carcinogens in our diet and hygiene products to endless stories of acquaintances who had a cough or felt a twinge and turned out to be full of end-stage cancer. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard that we’re all ‘ticking time bombs’. I’ve had friends with cancer, lost close relatives the disease, but have never been through it myself- I know I can’t even begin to see things from her perspective. Still, the constant stories and borderline philosophical lectures are draining and… insensitive, in a way I can’t quite pinpoint. Am I out of line? Is there a way to shut these conversations down without appearing like an uncaring jerk?
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 2:11 pm I don’t think there’s a “you talk too much about cancer” shut down available to you in the situation you describe. I think the ones you can use are the generic extrications–“Gotta get back to work!” “Sorry, I was concentrating on my book,” etc. You can throw in a “Well, we’re all glad you’re better” as a transition point if you like.
Stephanie* January 1, 2016 at 2:22 pm Yeah, seconding this. I had a girl on my hall freshman year who had cancer as a teen and she talked about it all the time. My roommate even was even joking about it like “Hey, did you know Persephone had cancer?” But there’s no polite way to say “shut up about your cancer.” I would just nod along and say noncommittal things like “Oh, I’ll consider that about blueberries.” I’m guessing she’s talking about it so much because that was/is such a big thing in her life. Probably as she gets further and further away from her last treatments and maintains good health, she’ll talk less about it.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 2:37 pm I do think that if she’s actively talking about what’s going into Bantha’s mouth, you do have the wiggle room of “I’m not comfortable with that kind of scrutiny of my food–can we talk about something else?” because it’s about your own food. (Ditto if she’s talking about Bantha’s body–you get to say “Uh-uh, not doing that.”) But in general, you have to be really, really close to somebody before you can say “Enough about the cancer already.”
Bantha Pudu* January 1, 2016 at 3:53 pm Oh, I absolutely agree. And to clarify, it’s not her own experiences with cancer that I find troublesome, it’s the ‘advice’ based on pseudoscience and the talk that any one of us could be riddled with it right now (true, but not something an anxiety sufferer needs to hear on a regular basis).
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 6:56 pm Ugh, I hate that kind of thing. It brings out the “Actually…” in me. And may I say that your screen name is absolutely magnificent. :)
asteramella* January 1, 2016 at 2:21 pm Regardless of her health history, it’s unpleasant to be subject to constant commentary about the healthiness or unhealthiness of your food and your daily habits. I think a lot of the deflections that have come up in previous posts about “health police” coworkers would apply here.
Daenerys T* January 1, 2016 at 2:50 pm I’ve had similar experiences with friends who are cancer survivors. I’ve always seen it as a way of coping with a trauma/near death experience (which doesn’t make it any easier to listen to). Agreeing with the others that trying to steer it away from being pointed at you (“Actually, I don’t really like discussing my food choices”) is probably the way to go.
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 3:24 pm I agree with the others. Direct it back to work fairly quickly. I had a cancer removed this fall, one I’ve probably had for years, and one that is so easy to treat that it’s removed and other than occasional checking, that’s all. And I don’t feel like I can talk about it. Because, sure it was cancer, it was even rare, but it wasn’t anything traumatic, so can’t call it a big deal, so why bring it up at all. No-one is likely to see the impressive scar. It almost seems not fair: I had cancer and there’s no reason to tell anyone about it. I’m not sure how I would deal with her either. Because in that situation, I still couldn’t talk about it. But we all have traumas in our lives, and cancer is just one of them. You have different ones, and yours may be just as important to you as her cancer survival is to her. So, in some way, she is insensitive to not recognize that cancer doesn’t put her above others who have had different trials to bear.
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 8:03 pm Going in a slightly different direction, I am thinking of her talk about cancer as an expression of grief. Grief for how her body failed her, grief for all the invasive stuff that goes on in cancer treatments. I think I would suggest to her that she might want to join a support group of cancer survivors. “This sounds like it’s a pretty rough thing. Have you thought about joining a survivors support group?” If this does not sound like something you could make work, then how about using an affirmation of some sort. “Well, thank goodness you are okay now.” Work the word NOW into your affirmation because her shock/grief is such that she is still replaying it all in her mind. She’s still in the past, even if partially. You may gain ground by simply reassuring her that it is over now.
Stephanie* January 1, 2016 at 2:11 pm So we hire a lot of seasonal employees for this time of year. I asked my (acting) boss about recommending people for rehire as I had my list of recommendations. Turns out our union contract mandates that rehires are by seniority. So this one particular employee who everyone agrees is horrible might get hired permanently as he’s about to hit his tenure date. I’m just hoping the ones I do like are senior enough. A couple of them got Employee of the Month. They thought they were being told they were being hired on permanently and instead got a t-shirt and a “Great job!” *sigh*
Audiophile* January 1, 2016 at 9:45 pm Aw, that still sounds really brutal though. Jeez. I hate when seniority keeps bad people around.
Trill* January 1, 2016 at 2:13 pm Happy New Year everyone! I am looking for work after relocating. The problem is I am in a very niche scientific field, and there are no open jobs in my new area. There is, however, a part time, lower level job in a town nearby. This is more of a “tech” job where I have been working as a “specialist” for a number of years, although I would have the skills to complete the required tasks of the job and probably contribute in other ways if needed. But if I were to apply for this job, it would be a temporary thing, or even on a casual basis while I look for something full time and permanent and/or while they find and train a permanent person for the role. So is it worth it to apply or would I be wasting their time and mine if I had no intention of staying long term? And how would I go about explaining the situation in my application?
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 2:32 pm I think people often leave part-time jobs for full time, so that’s not a huge deal; however, I’d expect that you still make some minimal duration commitment to the job if you applied for it. It’s not usually helpful to have somebody in short-term and then have to put somebody else in; it just means training somebody twice. I’m also not clear on what you mean by “casual basis” here–does that mean you’d expect flexibility? Or are proposing to work as a contractor? So I think you have two choices: apply to the job as described and do it for minimum six months, say, until moving to full-time; or make an alternative proposal that you work for them hourly/contracting/whatever you were thinking of, since your skills fit their niche, even though that wasn’t exactly what they were advertising for. If it’s a real niche area, they might jump at having you; it depends on their needs and the market.
Trill* January 1, 2016 at 4:45 pm By casual I mean per diem. Not committed to any hours per week, just working as needed. And while my specialty is quite niche, a tech job can be trained on the job in a month or two if they have some basic background knowledge. So I may not be all that valuable to them except that I would only require a day or two of training to get used to their systems, not a month or two.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 5:15 pm That sounds like you’re not in the U.S., so my advice may not translate then. In the U.S. that would likely be a contractor position–you’d be a consultant, essentially.
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 2:36 pm Burn the house down and rebuild? :) Just kidding, lots of stuff is supposed to work but unfortunately it all takes time and lots of effort. I removed a roomful at my current place and found this stuff called SimpleStrip at the home improvement store. It has fabric sheets you soak in the solution and apply to the scored wallpaper. The sheets hold the solution to the wall and for me the wallpaper came off with minimal scrapping.
Blue_eyes* January 1, 2016 at 3:26 pm Get a scorer and rent a steamer. My dad and I removed up to 5 layers of wallpaper (going back to the original paper from 1906!) from my childhood bedroom a few years back. We tried spray on products and they just didn’t get the job done. If I remember correctly, the steamer worked the best. You can rent them from a lot of hardware stores. The scoring tool was also invaluable because it helped the steam or spray product to penetrate all the layers. The spray on products might work just fine if you only have one or two layers of relatively new wall paper.
Former Diet Coke Addict* January 1, 2016 at 4:00 pm Yep. My parents and I removed wallpaper from every single room in their house (three patterns per room! Why!) and those suckers must have been attached with some kind of absurdly strong glue, because the steamer really worked best. Score first, then use a spray product to see how attached the paper is, and then rent a steamer if if doesn’t work.
Stephanie* January 1, 2016 at 4:03 pm I bought a handheld fabric steamer to remove tint from my car windows after I moved to a state that banned tinted windows. It worked surprisingly well (although took forever).
Stephanie* January 1, 2016 at 8:52 pm Ha, from Google after the DMV wouldn’t pass my car for safety inspection. I went back and failed again because I assumed I could still have tint on my quarter windows. You steam the adhesive off and just peel.
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 9:52 pm Who’d thunk? I thought it was in the glass OR it would be some elaborate process involving expensive equipment.
Dr. Johnny Fever* January 1, 2016 at 4:24 pm Piece of advice if you are removing wallpaper from an old house: Cockroaches apparently loved the taste of wallpaper glue used in 1930 in my old bedroom. Found tons of them embedded in the glue behind the paper when I took it down. Scrubbed the walls thoroughly, then myself in a Silkwood shower. Have fun!
Dynamic Beige* January 2, 2016 at 4:54 pm Never put it up in the first place! Ha! OK, now that I’ve gotten that out of my system, I have removed a *lot* of wallpaper in my time so the two things I’m going to suggest are: 1. hand held steamer. I forget how much I paid for that thing, but it was worth every penny. I’ve loaned it out to a few people, too. It’s heavy, but it worked, even on wallpaper that was 6 layers deep (just hold it longer and let the steam seep in). It is a Black and Decker. I don’t know if they still make them but the problem with renting can be that if the job is harder than you anticipate, it will take longer than a rental, or require several rentals at which point, you might as well buy it. 2. liquid fabric softener with a scorer. The wallpaper in my grandfather’s house just laughed at my steamer, because someone had wallpapered, then painted, then wallpapered, then painted. The paint layers stopped the steam. I was given this tip by someone at a paint store, but if you google fabric softener to remove wallpaper, you’ll find lots of recipes for it. I would spray the wall, score it with the Paper Tiger (I think that’s what it was called), spray some more, let it soak. It took a while, but eventually it all came off. The Paper Tiger pierced the paint layers and let the water/softener soak through. The steam alone didn’t work as well, even on the scored walls, so there is something in the fabric softener that works on the glue.
Audiophile* January 1, 2016 at 2:23 pm I’ve been feeling meh since Monday, my throat was bothering me a little. I went out to dinner that night with a friend and her former coworker, had awesome Indian food at this place in Manhattan. We had our first blast of winter here in lower NY, I’m in the Westchester area. I think getting hit with sleet and basically freezing is what did me in. I took a detour on my way back to the subway and just ended up being really cold the rest of the night. My North Face jacket failed me and made me wish I had taken my nicer coat out of my closet. Tuesday, I didn’t get much done at work, spent the day chatting with that friend. (She’d told me she was pregnant on Monday, before we met up for dinner). Wednesday was more productive, as far as work was concerned but I definitely wasn’t feeling well. And yesterday, I just felt awful. I was so glad my manager had told me I could take Thursday off, because whatever this was fully kicking my ass. Had a little champagne at midnight, but I really just wanted to be in a Alka Seltzer pill-induced coma. I’m feeling a little better today, but that’s more because I’m trying to stay ahead of it. I hope the rest of you had a more exciting night than me.
AvonLady Barksdale* January 1, 2016 at 8:11 pm Ugh, I’m also not feeling well. Luckily for me I’ve been off work this week, but STILL. Just a nasty, nasty cold. Then the dog barfed yesterday, so I decided to stay home while the boyfriend had dinner at a friend’s place and went downtown to our favorite bar. I watched an Episodes marathon on Showtime. Whoop. Ee. Anyway, I sympathize, and I hope you’re feeling better today!
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 2:24 pm Am I the only one who likes having a combined open thread / free-for-all? It would also seem to me to be less work for Alison, since she then doesn’t have to do as much policing (“posted in the wrong thread—please wait until the free-for-all”).
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 2:33 pm We used to do them that way, but people who just wanted to read work stuff found it got too buried. And this is a pretty low-key version–they could get pretty big!
Christy* January 1, 2016 at 2:37 pm I think it only works on holidays because there’s so few comments, relatively. But it’s great on low-traffic days.
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 2:37 pm Like fposte mentioned, it used to be that way, but the threads would get huge and eventually they were split up.
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 2:40 pm Oh, I didn’t know that. Thanks for the historical insight! I don’t know if Alison would be up for this, but I almost wonder if it makes sense for her to have a (phpBB or vBulletin) forum associated with the blog instead of mega-comments. It could have ads, too, to generate revenue for her and also link back here, of course.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 1, 2016 at 4:07 pm I can see why people sometimes suggest this, but ultimately it’s probably too far outside of my mission — which is really just to give workplace advice, and not so much to provide a discussion forum, although that’s turned into a nice side effect. I’d worry that separate forums would lead to me hosting unmoderated discussion boards where I couldn’t really vouch for the quality of the advice (not that I can in the comments either, but it’s easier for me to keep an eye here and jump in if something’s egregious — although frankly I don’t always see things in time here either). Interestingly, a commenter here (I think Victoria Nonprofit?) has mentioned that the owner of Offbeat Empire has said that creating forums was her worst business decision because it cannibalized her traffic from the places where she wanted it and sort of turned into a monster that required constant resources. So there’s that too :)
Dr. Johnny Fever* January 1, 2016 at 4:27 pm Television Without Pity from 2002 through the Bravo deal was an excellent case study in how even well moderated forums with respectful commenters can devolve in a frighteningly short period of time. The exodus was so, so sad. Previously.TV is good, but doesn’t have quite the same magic that I felt with TWoP.
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 4:38 pm I still miss TWoP but you are totally right about how quickly things can go bad.
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 6:03 pm I miss TWoP, too, but some of the moderators annoyed the hell out of me. I left after two years of posting because if you didn’t agree with the crowd in some of the forums, you weren’t welcome.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 1, 2016 at 4:54 pm Will you say more about what happened there? I’ve heard people make references like that but have never known what actually went down.
Dr. Johnny Fever* January 1, 2016 at 7:02 pm I wasn’t a mod, but was a long time poster from the days when TWoP sold banner ads to survive. I made them for the CSI forum. The communities there got so tight that many of my wedding guests were posters I met there, two of them subsequently married, many of us hosted TWoP parties. Some communities were very inclusive, true. Each forum had its own FAQ. People were required to read at least the last 225 posts (15 pgs) before saying anything. Forum rules were enforced. The site began to boom around 2004-2006, more mods came in. Some mods had been long time posters. Suddenly cliques formed, longtimers began to bully newbies, other LTPs began trying to mod the threads themselves. Rules were enforced but volume grew too quickly. Exodus 1 began. Bravo deal was announced (2008? 2009?) causing another schism. Now it was the BeforePosters and the AfterPosters and the cliques got worse. Rules were ignored, punishments were haphazard. Sars, Glark, and Wing Chun operated with amazing transparency; the new PTB were secretive and it seemed that forum enforcement was arbitrary. Exodus 2. Suddenly all the ads were corporate, popular writers gone, and the site took a new tone. A few of us held strong but as old timers left, newbies blathered, and mods allowed it; eventually we realized the new people brought traffic. The rest of the old crowd left. Exodus 3. The site died shortly after. I’m still friends with those TWoPPers. We commiserate every once in a while. For us, it was a place where we enjoyed sharing intelligent, analytical discourse among random inside jokes. (Seriously, [monkey]). Unfortunately their forum success didn’t scale well as their volume grew. Bravo got the higher revenue and traffic they wanted but they undervalued the community immensely. There wasn’t enough in the forums to keep people coming back, so their traffic began to dwindle shortly after that final Exodus. Bravo then began to launch show pages with blogs and videos that included their own comment sections, bleeding more traffic from the forums; they essentially lent a hand in killing their own site. Bravo potentially had the resources to manage a smoother evolution, avoiding cliques, keeping the rules, encouraging discourse, and managing enforcement; they just didn’t care to do so. And why they cannibalized themselves as part of their digital strategy is an absolute mystery. I can’t imagine how much Bravo wound up pissing away in infrastructure and IT personnel for the TWoP acquisition.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 1, 2016 at 7:45 pm Fascinating — thank you. Seems like they could have bought the site but left the old owners in place to continue running it (if said owners were interested in doing that, which they may not have been) and avoided lots of those problems (although I’m sure there were plenty of reasons doing that might not have been feasible).
Dr. Johnny Fever* January 1, 2016 at 9:55 pm Not privy to the deal, however, note a few things about Previously.TV’s evolution: – Previously.TV’s first launched with brief summaries of shows, but they were not called recaps nor were they more than one page – Sars, Glark, and Wing Chun established their presence with their real names, Sarah, David, and Tara – Writers who left TWoP showed up on P. TV under their real names – P. TV did not cover any of the same shows as TWoP. As TWoP communities withered and shuttered, PTV picked up the dropped shows. When TWoP dropped long form content, PTV introduced it. When TWoP closed its forums, PTV opened their own almost immediately. I’ll guess that creative control was part of the deal which I cannot imagine the site creators would surrender. I’ll also guess there were some IP clauses and non-compete clauses involved as well. If you go to PTV today, it’s like using the Wayback Machine to view TWoP from 10 years ago. The forum rules and discussions are very similar, but that community spirit isn’t present like it was on TWoP. But then, PTV users, to my knowledge, never bought fan ads to keep the site running. I followed all this not just from personal interest but professional. I work in Web Development, specifically in driving traffic and preparing for growth. This is why Bravo stymied me with how they handled their assets, and I found the birth and evolution of PTV compared to TWoP’s slow death utterly fascinating to watch.
Al Lo* January 2, 2016 at 9:18 pm I also have a really tight group of friends from TWoP, and we migrated from the main boards (one of the Meet Markets) to our own sub-forum in 2007, related to one of the big dramatic blowups, the details of which I can’t fully remember right now. I really joined the TWoP boards in about 2005, and really felt the solid community there for that year and a half or so, and then our community continued, but the venue had to change.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 3:49 pm This is the part that interests me: ” Bravo got the higher revenue and traffic they wanted but they undervalued the community immensely. There wasn’t enough in the forums to keep people coming back, so their traffic began to dwindle shortly after that final Exodus. ” Alison has mentioned that unique visitors is part of what drives revenue for her, so regular community members don’t add advertising dollars. But if the part I quoted is what happened–that the longtime regulars created the value that made the forums’ reputation so that unique visitors even heard about it…
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 3, 2016 at 4:00 pm Just to clarify, y’all definitely add advertising dollars! (Every view contributes to ad revenue.) What I meant was that more casual readers provide a substantial portion of the site’s revenue, so it wouldn’t be a feasible economic model to switch away from ads to something like donations, subscription fees, or so forth.
Christy* January 1, 2016 at 10:41 pm Right, and I think the only example of a good forum idea is Friends of Captain Awkward, which was established by regular posters, is monitored by regular posters, and isn’t run by Captain Awkward herself at all. But her fans needed a place to chat far more than AAMers need a place to chat, and CA was kind of getting overwhelmed by her commenters and readers, I think it’s fair to say.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 2, 2016 at 1:06 am I’ve always wondered about the history of/inspiration for those too, if anyone is inclined to fill me in!
TL -* January 3, 2016 at 3:21 am I think that it kept on getting suggested (but CA said, while she was not opposed to the idea, she was not interested in running it) and then, if I remember correctly, a few readers really started working on it sometime after the big social anxiety question debacle. CA basically said she could not keep going as things were and started taking fewer questions and avoiding certain topics- my guess is that motivated people to start up the forums – to get support, to continue discussions after the comments had been shut down, and to open up a place for questions when CA either wasn’t taking questions or wasn’t taking a particular type of question.
Blue Anne* January 1, 2016 at 2:31 pm What sites do you use to jobsearch in the USA? In the UK I’ve always got an eye on Reed and s1jobs, but I have no idea what the American equivalent would be. My marriage visa renewal is coming up this month, so I’d like to look at the kinds of things that are going in places I’d like to live, should I get kicked out of the country…
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 2:38 pm Indeed.com is decent but for the most part I use a combo of going to company career pages and LinkedIn.
katamia* January 1, 2016 at 2:39 pm The general ones I use are Craigslist and Idealist.org, although the quality of Idealist varies a lot depending on where you are–I’ve found lots of great listings in the DC area through Idealist, but it was almost totally useless for what I wanted when I was in Los Angeles.
Audiophile* January 2, 2016 at 10:29 am I’ve used craigslist a bit, had one or two interviews result from jobs listed there. I’ve mainly used Indeed. But my last two jobs came from Idealist, I saved searches and had daily emails sent that matched that criteria. When I briefly searched for jobs in Los Angeles, it picked up weird jobs that weren’t even located in CA. So I probably wouldn’t use Idealist again, if I was searching for that area.
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 2:41 pm I’d actually consider looking at some industry-specific sites, too. For example, if you work in private schools (which I tend to), you would like at nais.org.
Cruciatus* January 1, 2016 at 2:42 pm I often look directly at company websites, but beyond that I usually use indeed.com which collects a bunch of jobs from all over the place, USAjobs.gov, my state’s civil service job listings, my county’s job postings, and the local newspaper’s job listings. Usually that hits the main jobs (though I live in a smaller city).
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 7:04 pm Indeed.com is good, and I also looked at the career board through my state’s career center website. The latter is where I found Exjob, btw. Bright.com and Glassdoor also helped a little, but Indeed was the best. I also looked on employer websites–there are several large ones here and I kept an eye on their job pages. Careerbuilder had some good local ads, but it and Monster were too full of junk. I felt squicky about uploading my resume there too. I had a version just for online stuff, but really, most of the posts on there were just crap.
Lillian McGee* January 1, 2016 at 2:31 pm It was me and Mr. McGee’s first New Years together as husband and wife (and before you ask if his name is Bobby, these are not our real names…)! So what OBVIOUSLY had to happen?? He got called into work! For a 12:00 a.m. start! I was like… really??? They couldn’t make it 12:35 or something?? But that’s the railroad for ya. He is an on-call conductor and some train out in the middle of nowhere had to be re-crewed. We had to leave our friends’ party early and I spent the countdown on the couch alone with the cat. Sounds depressing but I have had a really great year and I was in good spirits nevertheless. :) Happy New Year!
ThursdaysGeek* January 1, 2016 at 3:29 pm Now I have the tunes “Me and Bobby McGee” mixed with “I’ve been working on the Railroad” running through my head. May the times between the ball dropping last night, and it dropping in a year be the time together worth remembering.
LizB* January 1, 2016 at 3:59 pm My boyfriend got a very nice collection of live Grateful Dead CDs for Christmas and is listening to them on our stereo, and their version of “Me and Bobby McGee” was literally just ending as I got to this comment. Spooky!
ShoeRuiner* January 1, 2016 at 2:37 pm I’m looking at a job at a university, not a faculty job, asking for a CV. I’ve never made or used a CV. Should I apply anyway and send a resume?
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 2:44 pm Yup. Just a more complete one that doesn’t worry about the one-page limit.
ResearchSnail* January 1, 2016 at 2:55 pm Yes — CV is academia-speak for “resume.” For academics a CV is much longer than a traditional resume, but if the job you’re applying for is not faculty, then a resume is what they’ll want.
jamlady* January 1, 2016 at 2:37 pm My migraines have been out of control this week. It was a good week to work from home 3/5 days since my whole team is gone, but I don’t expect it will get any easier with this El Niño. So here’s where I’m looking for advice: I live in the desert and my house is currently at 17% humidity and my cats are both having skin issues from the dryness. I’ve read things about humidifiers helping with migraines, particularly barometric pressure migraines, but I also felt like they were worse when I lived in Texas (much more humid than the Mojave desert). Anyone has experience with adding a humidifier to their home for migraines? All stories welcome!
AvonLady Barksdale* January 1, 2016 at 3:09 pm Hmm… I get triggered by changes in barometric pressure, and it never occurred to me that the humidifier might help. I use mine to keep dryness at bay for us and the dog (terrible dry skin). Worth a shot, though make sure you keep that sucker spotlessly clean.
jamlady* January 1, 2016 at 7:32 pm I’ve been looking for cheaper ones that are still easy to clean. Even if it doesn’t work for me, one cat has major dandruff and the other (who compulsively cleans when he’s anxious) has been starting to chew so hard on his back due to dryness that he’s breaking skin!
Observer* January 1, 2016 at 3:13 pm Get a small humidifier to test with. They are inexpensive, and if it doesn’t work, or even make things worse, you won’t be out too much money.
jamlady* January 1, 2016 at 7:41 pm I think it will help the cats regardless, and I could always find a different spot for it that’s not near my usual spots in the house if it makes things harder on me.
Dr. Johnny Fever* January 1, 2016 at 4:32 pm Have not tried a humidifier. That’s a new one. I’m also in the arid SW – I began taking Diamox to help with the barometric triggers; it reduces the amount of CSF in the body so less pressure builds in the intracranial area, reducing the migraine trigger. I have found some relief, but my neuro says the pressure ones are the most difficult to treat.
jamlady* January 1, 2016 at 7:38 pm I’ve tried dozens of medications over the last 10 years (you probably know the drill), but nothing has ever worked. We’re in a “let’s try lifestyle changes” phase for the next couple of years. Especially since last year they totally changed on me and I started getting severely blinding auras for hours with no pain and then the pain would hit me like a truck and I would be out for 2-3 days (Texas was really, really bad). It’s been better now that I’m back in the desert for all of the other triggers, but that pressure change… I’ll be totally fine and then I’m suddenly falling asleep at my desk and getting ready to throw up, just waiting for it to hit. No good! I really don’t want to go back to getting a reset shot in the butt every week haha. I’m glad you’ve found a medication to help you. I’ll write a note about it in my migraine journal.
Dr. Johnny Fever* January 1, 2016 at 10:01 pm Only other med I can suggest is MMJ if it is available to you. CBD is highly effective against muscle aches and general pain and helps nausea very quickly, THC helps with nerve pain, nausea, and appetite, and CBG is excellent for inflammation pain. CBN is good for insomnia.
BRR* January 1, 2016 at 6:10 pm For the cats, I have put flax seed oil on my dogs food in the winter and that has helped with his skin.
BRR* January 1, 2016 at 6:11 pm Also with 17% humidity I would be running a humidifier nonstop. I just got a vornado one that is awesome.
jamlady* January 1, 2016 at 7:40 pm Yeah I think it’s going to be necessary. I also have crazy allergies and asthma (and one of my cats does too), so I probably should have had one up and running since I moved back here. The price ranges are kind of all over the place, but it looks like cheaper ones do work okay.
BRR* January 2, 2016 at 11:04 pm It really depends on room size in my experience. We got the vornado through an Amazon deal for our large bedroom and it’s great. If the living room gets drier soon I might try filling the slow cooker with water and leave the lid off.
Artemesia* January 3, 2016 at 1:22 pm pan on stove or slow cooker etc just don’t put out enough humidity (we tried all those)– even a small humidifier doesn’t. If it is really dry you need an incredible amount of water to get things up to comfortable levels. I think we paid about $150 for ours that holds 3.5 gallons and will put out about 6 running full tilt if it is really dry — Our has 9 fan speeds so you can keep the sound of the fan low when you are in the room but turn it up when you are out or at night if you need to do so in a very dry climate.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 3:53 pm Vornado makes a humidifier? I’m a major fan of their space heaters–it’s the only kind I’ve ever used that made every corner of the room the same temperature.
Artemesia* January 3, 2016 at 1:19 pm I live in the chilly north and every year when we move to heating my skin goes nuts, my sinuses go nuts. I finally got a large ‘whole house’ humidifier. Mine looks like a piece of 1950s furniture and displaying the humidity % on the front; I have a plant sitting on top. The other option was a giant thing that looked like a cuisinart or a dialysis machine or something — so ugly furniture was the choice since I have no place to hide it. we have about 900 square feet in our main room and this thing runs through between 3 and 6 gallons of water in 24 hours depending on how dry it is. That keeps the humidity at around 35%. It uses ordinary tap water and a few drops of something to keep algae and bacteria at bay and doesn’t need to be cleaned often. Changed my life. If dryness is making the headaches more common, or in the case of animals or people with skin issues in winter — these things are gold. If we had a house and our own heat system I’d put in some sort of central humidifier, but this thing works well for us as a stand alone. The small ones you get at the hardware store just don’t put out enough water. I do use a spewing penquin humidifier in the bedroom and it is okay for that small space.
F.* January 1, 2016 at 7:54 pm Although I live in PA where low humidity is definitely not a problem, I have found that I get migraines if I get dehydrated. Be sure you are drinking enough water and stay away from coffee and tea, which are diuretics.
Observer* January 2, 2016 at 6:27 pm Yes, that’s a trigger for me, too. Heat is a bit, but the dehydration even more so.
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 8:20 pm I have my dog on fish oil for his dry skin. Seems to be helping. I assume you are drinking water, are you getting electrolytes from some source? Growing up, we had a humidifier in the living room. I don’t think it did much for my headaches. (Not migraines, though.) I got rid of my headaches by fixing up my diet, which sorely needed fixing.
Schnapps* January 2, 2016 at 11:09 pm I live in the PNW where we have no end of weather changes, and humidity is not an issue (unless it’s too humid, and then that’s a problem – it’s pretty disgusting when it’s cold, raining, and humid at the same time). Anyways, I always say I’m allergic to weather changes – I get the full on headache/migraine/body ache and some days it just about incapacitates me. The shift from high pressure to low pressure always gets me, regardless if it’s humid or not.
Daenerys T* January 1, 2016 at 2:45 pm I guess a combination of work/regular thread is a great place to post this, as I think my issue is a mix of the two! In February 2015 I started NewJob. OldJob hired me straight out of college, and I had been there for 9 years. By the end, it was awful and toxic and I was depressed to the point of crying every day on my way to work. NewJob has been going better than I ever could have imagined. I received a surprise bonus and raise 6 months after starting (which my boss made clear was not a substitute for my year end review, but rather a recognition of my hard work and accomplishments thusfar). I picked up new skills quickly, which resulted in being handed huge projects that are exciting, fun, and challenging me every day. I’ve gotten to travel all over the country. I’ve received fantastic feedback from not just my boss and colleagues, but external clients as well. Here’s the crazy part: all of this has shot my anxiety through the roof. I panic every time my boss sends a complimentrary email or sings my praises, because I feel like at any moment he’s going to realize that I in no way live up to the image of me he has in his head. Whenever I’m given a new project (at our company, the scope + challenge of the project is kind of a rank within our department — and I am always getting the first/second biggest projects in the company), all I can think about is how badly I’m going to screw it up. Ten minutes before I meet with new clients I’m usually hiding in the women’s room and trying to control my hands from shaking so they can’t see what a wreck I am. Whenever I make a mistake, it occupies my thoughts for days and it doesn’t matter how many other things I did right that day — I’m convinced that there’s going to be an email from my boss demanding a meeting to rake me over the coals (…which has never happened, just to give some context to how irrational my brain is). To top it all off, our business model works in a failure rate of about 40% — which means that things go wrong *a lot,* and when they do, it’s generally understood that the issue is just part of the way that our product is built, and has nothing to do with the performance of the person who is in charge of the product. Basically, if I suck at my job 4/10 times, I’m batting it out of the park. Logically, I know that the combination of OldJob + my mental health still not being in the greatest place is what is causing these feelings (plus a healthy dose of impostor syndrome). But I can’t seem to force myself to remember this when I’m trying to hide my panic attacks at work, over things that I know that other people would be grateful for, such as praise from management, higher pay, etc… Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this? I was thinking about going to therapy but I feel ridiculous complaining to a doctor about how things are going well and it’s causing me anxiety…
Amber Rose* January 1, 2016 at 2:58 pm Imposter syndrome is a real thing that affects lots of people to varying degrees. If you go to a doctor I can guarantee you will not be the first, or last, person they talk to with these issues. I strongly recommend therapy. Get some coping mechanisms and tools to help you fight back against these fears.
Observer* January 1, 2016 at 3:15 pm You are not complaining that things are going too well. You have a problem with anxiety which is causing major stress, and it is beginning to interfere with you ability to function effectively.
Bye Academia* January 1, 2016 at 3:27 pm I 100% understand where you are coming from. I think it’s pretty common to feel anxiety when things are going well due to a combination of impostor syndrome and fear that things will stop going well. My advice to you is to just bite the bullet and go to therapy. Seriously. It’s not silly/ridiculous (even though it might feel that way at first). You’re not getting therapy because your life is smooth, you’re getting therapy because you’re anxious. You deserve to enjoy the success you’ve been having.
Ashley* January 2, 2016 at 9:51 am This sounds so much like my story! I was hired out of college by FirstJob and it became toxic around the 5 year mark – I was depressed, anxious, crying every day. Found current job a little about three and a half years ago – the constant praise, raises, bonuses and recognition started and I started feeling imposter syndrome and that I was going to mess it all up and not live up to my early self. Well, over three years later – it’s still happening! Just keep in mind – this means we work at positive companies rather than the toxic environments we were in last time. We deserve it!!
The Expendable Redshirt* January 2, 2016 at 9:37 pm Yup. I’m still having spikes of Imposter Syndrome eight months into my job. “You don’t know what you’re doing! Boss will realize this any day now!” will periodically flash in my head. To try and combat this illogical nonsense, I focus on the numbers. Am I meeting goals? Yes. Exceeding them? Yes. Therefore the doubts are false warnings. It doesn’t stop the anxiety totally, but it helps.
Soupspoon McGee* January 3, 2016 at 2:20 pm My imposter syndrome was held at bay as a rose through the ranks, got to know the higher-ups, and realized they don’t know what they’re doing either, but they project an air of confidence so nobody else knows.
Artemesia* January 3, 2016 at 1:25 pm I spent my entire working life with anxiety. I managed it and did fine — but I would have been so much happier and more productive if I had gotten some professional help and put some of this to rest. I would strongly recommend therapy and consider well into that if anti-depressants are also needed. I know people who have improved the quality of their life dramatically with either or both of these.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 3:56 pm I did! It helped to talk to my counselor about it. I was in a clinical depression greatly exacerbated by a bad work environment. Then when I got to a workplace that was a much better fit, it was actually hard for me. My boss would ask me to step in to her office to discuss something (like, a schedule even), and I’d nearly crawl out of my skin. It’s a perfectly reasonable thing–it’s a version, in a small way, of PTSD. So, talk to a doc, and maybe a counselor. And get some mental exercises to do that will boost your confidence and help you be the one in charge of your anxiety. Best of luck!
JCokh* January 1, 2016 at 2:48 pm I have 2 questions. I applied to a company, they invited me to participate in the first part of their screening process which was a video interview. The following week I was offered a phone interview which will take place on Monday. In the same email I was invited to schedule an in person interview so I scheduled it for Friday of the same week (aka next Friday) Soo…. 1. Is it weird to schedule an in person interview the same time I schedule the phone interview? I was under the impression that the phone interview served as a screening process to determine whether to invite a candidate to an in person interview. 2. I’m a young professional, this would be only my second full time job out of college (still currently at my first, am totally miserable there and promised myself to eliminate all things from my life that do not serve me), so I have a question about wearing lipstick to a job interview. What sort of color is good for a black woman to wear? All of the advice I see around is geared toward white women and it’s basically “don’t wear bright colors”. Since my skin tone is different one can reasonably assume lipstick will look differently on my skin tone than it does on a woman of a different skin color? I love a red lipstick! But is it automatically a no-go or could I probably pass with it? For reference, my skin tone is a bit like the actress Sanaa Lathan.
Stephanie* January 1, 2016 at 3:02 pm I usually do brown lipsticks when I do wear lipstick, especially for job interviews. (I’m medium toned, not sure what to compare it to, but my skin tone isn’t too far off from my Gravatar.) I personally think red would be fine, especially if you’re not interviewing at a super conservative place. Fire engine red might not be great, but I bet a brownish-red would be conservative enough, but not super drab. I would go to a makeup counter and ask and tell them you want something for a job interview.
Stephanie* January 1, 2016 at 3:04 pm Also, red lipstick intimidates me for some reason. I think it’s just because I don’t wear makeup too much and it seems so conspicuous (which is a big change for me).
AvonLady Barksdale* January 1, 2016 at 3:13 pm Absolutely second the makeup counter! Go to a department store– Nordstrom if you have it, Lord & Taylor, Macy’s– or a MAC counter/store. They’re experts! You can try on a bunch of different colors and see what works best. (These are the days I really miss Prescriptives.)
Elle the new Fed* January 1, 2016 at 3:06 pm I can’t give advice on lip color specifically, but I’ve found the website Corpette to be useful for work fashion advice and there may be something in the archives there! I find lipstick to be completely appropriate in neutral/low-key, not bold, colors.
Observer* January 1, 2016 at 3:22 pm The problem is that what looks “bold” on one person may not look so bold on another.
Noah* January 1, 2016 at 3:08 pm 1) It is a bit unusual to schedule both at the same time. Although one time I scheduled both a Skype and in-person interview at once. The first was with HR and the latter with the hiring manager. HR wanted a chance to screen and also be available to answer questions about benefits, etc. The hiring manager knew they wanted to interview. Maybe this situation is similar. 2) Obviously skin tones will vary widely, but I would think a duller red would work out fine. Depending on skin tone a bright red might work too if you make it the focus of your face. Professional looks tend to skew towards natural but generally one bold element works out ok.
hermit crab* January 2, 2016 at 10:47 am We have staff in lots of places and do combination phone/in-person interviews all the time. We’ll have the candidate do a short session with the in-person hiring manager, then the HM will leave the room and an off-site project manager will call in, etc. But this is post-phone screen and the candidate is physically in our local office. It does seem a little odd to have separate interviews during the same week — why wouldn’t they just pick a block of time where everyone is available?
Artemesia* January 3, 2016 at 1:29 pm I think the key is people shouldn’t be aware of the lipstick but of your face. If they look at you and think ‘red lipstick’ rather than ‘pleasant face’ it is too bold. I like the idea of a dulled brownish red or something even a bit more neutral. And I agree that with dark skin a bright — not neon bright but still strong- color can work like a dark green or burgundy. But there is much to be said for something in the brown/beige range if it looks good on you. You want your face and your words to dominate.
Observer* January 1, 2016 at 3:21 pm Of course the colors will look different. The key is not too glow in the dark or like you’ve got clown makeup, more or less. You also don’t want to look like you are gravely ill or dying. And that is different not just between white and black but shade of whatever. If you have something you like that is “lively” but not “night club”, that would probably work. If not, the advice to go to a good makeup counter is good. A place like Sephora might work well, since they carry a wide variety of brands and colors.
super anon* January 1, 2016 at 5:08 pm do you know your MAC foundation shade number? if you do that’s a good way to google and find swatches of shades on people with a similar skintone to you. i love makeup, and looking at swatches. i love seeing swatches on different and darker skintones than mine because the difference is really striking! i’m a nw13 (the second palest shade mac makes) and colours that would look super bold & vampy on me, look like MLBB shades on women with darker skin tones. (ex: colourpop’s tulle looks super vampy on me, but i saw a picture of an nc50 woman wearing it and it looked like the perfect nude colour for her. it wasn’t too bold or vampy at all). it also goes the opposite way – the very light nude colours that look very neutral on me would look very bright and bold on you (ex: colourpop’s midi is an amazing nude on me, but it would pull very light on darker skinned woman). i recommend poking around the internet looking for swatches of colours to get an idea of what you’d like. i also recommend going to a mac counter to get foundation matched to have that colour number in mind of easy google searching, and to have them use some of their lipsticks on you to get a feel for what shade range you can look in. i’d also recommend poking around /r/brownbeauty on reddit, as it’s a great resource for swatches! /r/makeupaddiction can be good too sometimes, but i find that subreddit caters to very light skinned women, but if you search using your mac foundation shade number you + lipstick swatch you can usually find some good posts. oh and the blog temptalia is an amazing resource for finding colours you may like, seeing swatches, and finding dupes! good luck on your lipstick search. :D
Audiophile* January 1, 2016 at 7:46 pm I usually do lip glosses more than lipsticks. I have two go to colors from Origins – Fruit Punch and Ruby or Sparkling Rose. It’s been so long the colors probably aren’t even available anymore.
Nina* January 2, 2016 at 2:27 am Co-sign on a darker red if you want to wear a color. I think a deep burgundy or crimson would be fine. It helps to experiment. Just a few days ago, I spent nearly an hour at Ulta trying on different shades of brown before I found one I was pleased with (Revlon ColorStay Ultimate Suede in Fashionista). So far it’s working out ok. I would hit up your local Sephora or whatever makeup counter available and just test them out.
ginger ale for all* January 2, 2016 at 4:15 am I am not sure if this is an appropriate reference but with the news of Natalie Cole’s death, there are a lot of pictures of her in red lipstick and she looks wonderful. If you look great in it, then wear it. Also, I appreciate it when speakers in presentations wear a bolder lip color. It makes it easier for me to read their lips if I am having problems hearing them. Best wishes.
Myrin* January 1, 2016 at 3:20 pm (This comment starts out depressing but is actually a hopeful one.) This week has been eventful for my family. My little sister has been dealing with depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation, and PTSD ever since the abusive relationship with ex-boyfriend when she was 15. She’s dealt reasonable well with it but it completely spiralled into something huge over the last year or so, despite seeing a therapist and being able to talk more openly about the whole thing. My family’s GP came over on Wednesday and they had a long talk and concluded that it would be best if she went to a clinic for some time to learn to deal with all these issues more effectively and long-term. We will hear from the GP on Monday (he’ll be the one to arrange everything which is great because he’s old and forceful) but we expect she will be moving into the nearby hospital sometime in the middle of the month. She’s very scared but also “excited” (quotation marks because well, as excited as you can be about something like this) and finally hopeful again that this will help her and she’ll heal and become reasonably healthy again. I’m so very proud of her for taking this step even though she’s afraid and I really, really hope she will get the help she needs there.
nep* January 1, 2016 at 3:56 pm This sounds like a huge step in the right direction. May she get the help she needs to move on and find some peace. All the best to you and your family.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 7:06 pm Oh I hope this helps. Good for her–it’s huge to take charge of your recovery. I wish her all the best!
Be the Change* January 2, 2016 at 3:33 am Millions of good wishes and good thoughts. This really is something to be proud of.
FutureLibrarian* January 2, 2016 at 1:03 pm What a huge, scary, and wonderful step. Sometimes we need to take a big leap to make positive progress in our lives, and she’s really going for it.
aNoN* January 1, 2016 at 3:20 pm After reading some of the most seen and read posts of the year I came to recognize a lot of the 24 year old who burned bridges and couldn’t hold a job for very long. I’m constantly worried about sounding entitled but honestly I feel a lot of what this OP felt. My job is challenging and I do well in my role but I hate it!! At 25 I have great experience in my field but my goodness, there are days where I want to quit. The corporate world is just not for me but I’m in finance and on my way to becoming a CPA and don’t know what else to do. I’ve thought about teaching some classes at a local community college when I get my license because I like teaching. However, that does not pay enough to maintain the lifestyle I enjoy so I keep my for corporate job. I feel so miserable because I feel trapped and like I wouldn’t mind burning a bridge and just quit. A lot of commenters expressed similar experiences of doing a job despite it not being fulfilling. How can you possibly make it through a career this way?? I’m freaking out about this a lot because I don’t have another way of making the money I make now. I literally work for my paycheck and that’s it. How can a disenfranchised 25 year old like myself stop being so negative?? How does one keep on keeping on?! For what it’s worth, yes I have hobbies and see a therapist..thanks everyone!!
Colette* January 1, 2016 at 4:09 pm What is important to you in your life? Do you want a fulfilling career, enough money to travel, a short commute, flexible hours? You’ve identified a career you think you’d like, but you have decided that you value the money you’d make elsewhere more – is that in sync with what you actually want out of life? It’s ok if it is, but if that’s not what you want, what changes can you make to live on less?
Colette* January 1, 2016 at 4:17 pm And the next piece is to watch what you tell yourself – you’re not stuck in a job you hate, you are lucky to have a job that allows you to do X (whatever that life priority was).
financially irresponsible parents* January 1, 2016 at 4:55 pm this! i’m 26 and not particularly happy in my job or field, and i have days when i feel like i’m trapped and having an existential crisis and just want to quit. instead i remind myself that i’m lucky to have a job that lets me do x, y, z (in my case, work really flexible hours, have an insane amount of vacation time, and be really independent in the work i do). i also tell myself that my job doesn’t define me, and my pay allows me to do the things i like to do, which for me are buy makeup, luxury goods, and pamper myself & my bf in ways i couldn’t if i didn’t have the job.
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 8:29 pm Can you use this job to fund the education you need to get to your next career? You are 25. IF you knew for a fact that you would have a totally different career by age 30 could you hold it together long enough to fund that transition?
Soupspoon McGee* January 3, 2016 at 2:37 pm I’m in my 40’s. I gritted my teeth through two jobs while I saved money and figured out what I really wanted to do. I got through them by setting and meeting measurable goals: move closer to family, pay off student loans, save almost a year’s salary, sock away retirement, invest in things like antiques that will last me a lifetime, take classes, travel. It was not easy. My last job paid very well, but the last few years were increasingly hard. But . . . . a few years ago, I figured out what I really want to do. I spent the last year of my job taking classes and saving money so I could leave that job and prepare for a new career in healthcare. Now, I make a tiny fraction of what I did before while I take classes, work my way up from the bottom of my new field, and wait to hear from graduate programs. It’s not easy. Money is tight. But I have a great support system. And . . . even my worst days, when somebody dies and I’m covered in bodily fluids that are not mine, are better than my last job. I am so much happier knowing I can make a difference in people’s lives, even if in tiny ways. You can get through a high-paying, soulless job IF you have something to look forward to. Maybe you need a few years to enjoy your lifestyle while you work out what else you want to do. Maybe you need to dial it back to see if you can live on less so you can make a change when you’re ready. Give yourself a deadline. If you only have to work like a maniac for three more years, then you can bear it so much better (I know this!). Good luck!
aNoN* January 6, 2016 at 3:10 pm wow, thank you so much for sharing your story. I can’t say I know what I really want but this story is inspiring. Thank you again!
periwinkle* January 1, 2016 at 3:33 pm I asked last weekend about adding a young playmate for our 2-year old neuter kitty; his high energy did not endear him to our three senior girl kitties. We set out to adopt but good grief, it’s difficult to find kittens this time of year – especially in the Seattle area where shelters have to import adoptable animals! Organizations rescue cats and dogs from regions with high-kill shelters and transport them here. We missed out on several kittens (I mean, their photos were posted in the morning and they were adopted by mid-afternoon), but finally lucked out – five kittens had just been released from foster care, four had already been adopted, and there was one remaining 3-month old male who was, in the words of the adoption counselor, “completely cray-cray.” So our boy Ivanhoe now has a little buddy I’ve named Kenilworth (yes, I am an English lit nerd). They got along immediately and even the senior ladies don’t mind him. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4o8zb613f9zqh26/Kenny_Ivan.JPG?dl=0 Thanks to fposte for sending that link last week!
Hellanon* January 1, 2016 at 4:49 pm Your kitten looks just like my Ziggy when he was a young’un. Congrats on adding to the family & on the successful introduction…
Purrsephone* January 1, 2016 at 10:51 pm Have you checked with Purrfect Pals (Foster Dad John is their best known rep and foster parent)? Or you might consider TinyKittens/LAPS in Langley, Canada. These two rescue organizations are fantastic. I follow their blogs and Livestreams constantly. TinyKittens actually has plenty of cats and kittens right now. They will consider adopting outside their immediate area but you would need to go to them to get the pet.
Schnapps* January 2, 2016 at 11:13 pm Dang. Langley is just across the bridge from me. Next time I need a cat, I’ll look them up. I already have two cats – my strata won’t allow another, unfortunately (or possibly a good thing, otherwise I’d have 50 cats).
nep* January 1, 2016 at 3:52 pm Got one of those ‘page-a-day’ desk calendars. The page for today has this, attributed to Mary Oliver: ‘Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?’
could be anyone* January 1, 2016 at 7:00 pm Husband gets a Dilbert one each year. Takes it to work and uses boxes that makes the short cubicle wall on his right taller.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 7:09 pm Ha, I like that. My favorite page-a-day calendar of all time was a Far Side one I had years ago. I saved some of the funniest comics somewhere. I got a tiny calendar of glitzed-up London pictures for Christmas last year, just large enough to hang near my chair in my cube, and I liked it so much I bought this year’s on Amazon. That reminds me; I need to buy a new one to mark *koff*personal stuff on.
nep* January 1, 2016 at 7:19 pm For years I had the Eats, Shoots & Leaves calendar on my desk. Love that one. Didn’t find a 2016 out there.
Mean Something* January 1, 2016 at 8:50 pm That poem is “The Summer Day,” if you’re interested. It is available on the Poetry 180 site of the Library of Congress, and it’s exquisite!
nep* January 2, 2016 at 5:09 am Thanks. I listened to an interview w Mary Oliver after I saw the quote. Certainly am going to check out some of her work. Her book A Poetry Handbook sounds interesting too.
Mallory Janis Ian* January 2, 2016 at 8:01 pm A friend from my women’s group gave me a Cat-a-Day calendar for Christmas.
Jascha* January 1, 2016 at 4:03 pm I just found out I’m getting a promotion in the new year. Obviously, I’m thrilled (though experiencing serious impostor syndrome just thinking about it). But the problem is, the other person with my same job title, who has been with the company at least as long as I have and whom I consider a friend, isn’t being promoted as far as I know. I’m a little more experienced at what we do (which I think is why I was chosen), but I’m very worried that this will create trouble between us or change the office dynamic. Does anyone have advice on how to handle this?
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 4:43 pm I would wait to worry until it happens :-). There’s no reason for you to think she’ll have a problem with this beyond garden-variety wistfulness that she’ll negotiate quietly on her own. And it’s also possible this *will* change the office dynamics a little, and that’s okay too. You may have less overlap and different perspectives than you used to. I’m thinking some of this may be a variant on the impostor syndrome–that you’re worried about changes being bad generally, and you’re hanging it on this relationship. But it’s okay that things will change; you’ll manage it just fine, and probably so will she.
Jascha* January 1, 2016 at 6:28 pm Thank you! I hope this is it. I just don’t want it to affect our wider friendship (as it’s not like I will be the person’s manager or any such thing, so I think it’s okay to want to continue being buddies) or damage the office dynamic. We are a very friendly office, and while change is okay, I hope I can avoid a negative direction. I’ll wait and see how things turn out, though, instead of trying to figure out what to say or do about it.
LizB* January 1, 2016 at 4:16 pm I’m frustrated today… I’ve known I should do some therapy for a long time now, and a few weeks ago I finally found the courage to call up a therapist and make an appointment! The therapist came very highly recommended by a friend I trust, her approach sounds like it’d work for me really well, and she takes both the health insurance I have through my parents and the insurance I’ll be starting in February from my new job. I’ve been really excited to start working with her, and looking forward to my intake appointment next week. …except now that can’t happen, because my dad waited too long to do his health insurance enrollment and now we kinda-sorta don’t have coverage for the month of January. We’re eligible for COBRA, but since you don’t pay for that until the end of the month you need it for, my dad wants to see if the family can get through January without needing any medical services so he can avoid paying for it. He says if there’s an emergency or we get acutely sick, we should get whatever treatment we need and he’ll pay for the COBRA to cover it, but any “discretionary” medical expenses should be put off until February when their new non-COBRA plan kicks in (and when I’ll be on my own insurance anyway). COBRA is hella expensive, so I understand why he wants to do it this way, but damn this timing is inconvenient. I was so close to getting help! I want to get better so badly! And now I have to call the therapist back and reschedule for next month, because I sure as hell can’t pay for appointments out of pocket. It’s also frustrating because the insurance snafu is mostly caused by my dad, and the issues I need therapy for are also mostly caused by my dad… like, it wasn’t enough to screw up my mental health, now you also have to prevent me from getting treatment for it? Logically, I know that’s a totally unreasonable reaction, but it just seems like cruel irony that the man who spent my formative years turning me into an anxious, neurotic mess is now accidentally the reason I have to wait another month to try and move on. Ugh.
BuildMeUp* January 1, 2016 at 8:35 pm I’m sorry! That’s really awful timing. I think when you call the therapist, before you jump to rescheduling you should let her know about your situation and see if she offers any low-cost options for people without insurance, a payment plan so that you could pay for your January appointment(s) over time before your insurance kicks in (if that’s something that might be doable for you), or has any other options for you. I’m sure this won’t be the first time one of her patients has had insurance issues, so I think it’s worth a try to ask her about it. I’m also going to link to a Captain Awkward post in a separate comment about low-cost health care options. #6 talks about pro-bono/sliding scale stuff, and there are some other things that might be helpful. (I don’t know if you’ve read CA before, but it sounds like with your situation with your dad, you might find some of her writing really helpful!)
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 9:01 pm Agree about explaining the situation. The therapist might at least offer the negotiate rate instead of the retail rate. You would still have to pay the full negotiated rate as opposed to only your co-pay, but it might help. Also, a lot of therapists have sliding scales for people whose insurance doesn’t cover it. Good luck. If they know that your insurance situation is temporary, they might be even more willing to work with you. Good luck.
LizB* January 1, 2016 at 9:42 pm Thank you! I’m a regular reader of CA (I actually found AAM through her blog!), but I don’t think I’ve ever looked at that post about low-cost health care; I’ll definitely check it out. And I’ll ask the therapist about a payment plan or sliding scale. I just feel bad having to do that for our first appointment(s), for some reason — I feel like it makes me look disorganized/flaky to make an appointment and then not be able to pay for it.
BuildMeUp* January 1, 2016 at 10:42 pm I don’t think it makes you look that way at all! You thought you were going to have insurance in January, but through circumstances out of your control, you won’t have it until February. It’s not your fault that it happened this way, and I absolutely understand wanting to start as soon as possible rather than wait! And besides, if she’s a good therapist (and it sounds like she is), all she’s really going to care about is helping you.
BuildMeUp* January 1, 2016 at 8:36 pm Here’s the CA post: http://captainawkward.com/2011/09/22/how-to-locate-low-cost-mental-health-care-in-the-us-and-canada-guest-post/
Jean* January 1, 2016 at 8:59 pm Good for you for making the decision to get some help and phooey to your Dad for not finishing the health insurance enrollment in time. I hope the month goes by easily and without any additional aggravation. I’m going to brainstorm other ways you can take care of yourself in January. Feel free to ignore my suggestions if they are completely unhelpful. — Can you ask the therapist (when you call to reschedule) if he/she has any suggestions? — Is there any sort of low-cost or no-cost mental health care available in your community? I would look for either government agencies or non-governmental organization that provide human services. — NAMI aka National Alliance on Mental Illness has many regional/county/local branches in the U.S. These may offer free classes, workshops, or support groups. Perhaps one of these will be a good stopgap measure for you. — Can you commit to getting regular exercise doing something inexpensive, such as taking a daily walk? Physical activity often helps relieve emotional or mental distress. (Not speaking disparagingly here–I’m another person who has to consciously take a variety of regular actions to maintain good mental health.) — Can you find something else to do that you enjoy and that distracts you, in a positive way, from the fact that you are delayed by no fault of your own? — Earlier comments upthread mentioned that sometimes people telephone a crisis hotline just to talk to another person. Perhaps you can try this, or keep it in mind to try if none of my other suggestions (or any of your own ideas) seem to be helping. Good luck. I have faith that you’ll manage. You sound annoyed but not at the end of your patience. If possible, please post an update next month.
LizB* January 1, 2016 at 9:49 pm Thank you! I like your list of ideas. I can definitely do some of them — I have a free gym membership through my work, so exercise can definitely happen, and if things get bad for some reason I know of a free counseling service in my city that I could go to. I’m not in too much immediate distress, if that makes sense, just the same low-to-medium level I’ve had for as long as I can remember. I was just so excited that I was finally DOING something about it, and I feel a bit deflated that I probably have to wait.
Alma* January 2, 2016 at 3:24 pm If you have a gym membership through work, do they also offer an EAP? This will get you started immediately, and perhaps get you a referral – or places to start.
Victoria, Please* January 2, 2016 at 3:38 am Oh, FFS. I’m sorry, LizB. That was a total screw-up on your dad’s part. Especially if it’s basically as easy as most health insurance enrollments, where you check a box, scrawl your signature, and hand the form to HR. Even if it was more involved, messing around with your family’s health insurance is a really irresponsible move. Very best of luck, I hope the therapist can help you out as others have suggested.
LizB* January 2, 2016 at 11:36 am Thank you. I think this was a bit more complicated, but still, he’s worked for probably a dozen companies in the past 30 years, he should know how to sign up for insurance by now! I’m really not sure how we’re going to get away with no claims for the month, since I’m pretty sure my mom and sister both have regular prescriptions that will likely need to be filled at some point, but whatever, I’ll let them deal with that and figure things out for myself.
K.* January 1, 2016 at 4:16 pm I have a work/life update: On the depression front: I hope to make an appointment with a therapist this upcoming week. I have new insurance and a list of potentials; I made the list before I got the new insurance so I need to see if the potentials take it, if they offer any sliding scale options, etc. I had a wonderful time with one of my best friends yesterday, who is also seeing a therapist, and she said she’s realizing that everyone has struggles. That was helpful for me to hear, and also good to have some QT with her. On the work front: I have an interview next week! I applied for something over the summer. My initial phone screen went very well, or so I thought – they said they were impressed by me, wanted to bring me in, and then I got a form rejection. I was bummed. A few days before Christmas, I got a call from the same HR person I’d spoken with over the summer and she told me that they’d made an offer to someone else (apparently I applied toward the tail end of the hiring process, so I suspect they had this person in mind when they spoke with me) and that person “didn’t start with the company.” They put the position on hold as some other things in the department were in flux and are now revisiting it, and was I still available and interested? If so, would I be able to come in to meet with the hiring manager the first week of the year? I am, I am, and I can, so we set it up. I’m excited and nervous. Cross your fingers!
Schedule Keeper* January 1, 2016 at 4:26 pm Hi guys, We have a department of about 30 people and we are moving to a system that allows them to select their own shifts out of a given selection. They will be able to swap and change them as long as all shifts are covered. Here’s the rub: our current setup doesn’t make this easy. Does anyone know of an online based program that will allow us to set up a selection of shifts and allow users to sort of “grab” a shift. Ideally it would also allow us to track how much time they spent between working, meetings and breaks (but not necessarily a time clock as we have a separate global timecard system that we cannot change) and show time off.
LCL* January 2, 2016 at 8:28 pm I don’t know of any such program but I bet they are out there. Speaking as another schedule keeper, I feel obligated to point out some things. Because choosing the shifts is the easy part of all this… How many hours is an employee allowed to work each week? Required? Are employees allowed to work overtime? When does your workweek for payroll purposes start? It may or may not be when the schedule starts. FYI, in the U.S. Nonexempt employees must be paid time and a half for hours worked over 40 in a workweek. They aren’t allowed to voluntarily give that up. The employer isn’t allowed to average workweeks, or try to slide hours from 1 week to the next to avoid OT. The employer is allowed to have people on different workweeks, but not allowed to move workers back and forth. What will you do when nobody will work night shift on Saturday, or Sansa won’t work weekends, or Joffrey insists Monday through Wednesday days are his, or brienne and arya do a trade so brienne gets over 40 hours each week, or people run into use it or lose it with vac because they trade for days off, or Jon and Theon agree to a trade but Jon always sicks out on Friday, or? You can solve these problems with clear structure and rules that are clearly communicated with the workers. Except for the excessive use of sick leave, if you solve that one let me know.
Nicole* January 1, 2016 at 4:33 pm Anyone else enjoy shopping on New Years Day? It has become a little tradition for us. We have lunch at Red Robin (my birthday is next week so I get a free burger) and then browse the sales. We usually do more window shopping than anything, but it’s very relaxed because there’s hardly anyone in the mall. Also snagged a bunch of wrapping paper and greeting cards 70% off at Walmart. Won’t need any for years to come!
Al Lo* January 2, 2016 at 9:53 pm We shopped yesterday, and the mall was actually pretty busy — it closed at 5, and we were there from about 3:30 onward, finishing up spending some Christmas money, and then going to see Star Wars. On an aside — I’ve been very impressed by the internet with that movie! I didn’t see it until yesterday, and I wasn’t spoiled at all in the 2 weeks between release date and then. All the major articles were posted with very clear spoiler warnings, and my Facebook and Twitter feeds were VERY spoiler-free. Anyway — re: shopping — My husband and I didn’t buy each other gifts this year; instead, we set aside a couple hundred dollars each and went shopping together to get those fun splurge-y things that we can’t necessarily justify buying through the rest of the year. When the Hot Topic Doctor Who limited edition clothing line came out in November, I immediately started stalking <a href="http://www.hottopic.com/product/doctor-who-tardis-coat/10458237.html"this coat (I love coats; especially skirted coats), but it sold out almost immediately online and I never caught it at the Hot Topic locations in my city — the employees said that it kept selling out within hours of coming in. Well, yesterday, I happened to find the last one, in my size, in store, and I grabbed it with my Christmas money. (When it first came out, I also snagged the Fair Isle sweater — again, the last one in the store — out of the stock boxes at the back. It never even made it onto the shelves!)
ugh* January 1, 2016 at 4:38 pm I usually do not care that I’m single, but two events this year make me want to scream. 1. Our holiday work party was mandatory and when we got there, the person who planned it had seating arrangements. It was by departments so I thought it wouldn’t be a problem, but all employees who brought spouses and partners as +1 were at separate tables and I got shoved over to the “singles” table with some other coworkers. Talk about being humiliated. 2. I went to a New Years party last night where I was the only single person. This wouldn’t have been a big deal except a bunch of people wanted to talk about my dating life or if I brought anyone and there’s only so many times I can hear the smug “I’m so glad I’m not out there/dating now” comment before exploding. Even if it’s not meant to be purposefully cruel, it’s still a comment that comes off as arrogant or pitying. Please stop trying to “commiserate” with me when you’re in a relationship, especially if we’re not close friends.
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 6:17 pm I’m sorry – I know exactly how annoying that is. I was at my soon-to-be new division’s Christmas party two weeks ago, and one of the supervisors that I’d gotten semi-close with two years ago when I was a trainee (and she wasn’t a supervisor) asked me in front of people whether I was seeing anyone. I said no pretty enthusiastically, but the other people at the table kind of gave me pitying looks. Blah. Not all of us derive our sense of self worth from being paired up and, thus, don’t need people’s sympathy.
Jascha* January 1, 2016 at 6:33 pm When I was single and people tried the “I’m so glad I’m not looking for a partner now” line on me, I would say, “Yeah, me too.” It was quick and easy to say and sent the message that I was single by choice (or didn’t want to talk about it), not because of some flaw in myself or my dating skills.
Colette* January 1, 2016 at 8:18 pm I understand and agree that sometimes being single in a world of couples is hard, but interpreting being placed at a table with other single people as humiliating seems harsh – it’s possible the organizers didn’t want to put single people at a table where everyone else would be talking with their spouse. Unless there’s more to the story, you might want to reframe how you think about that.
BuildMeUp* January 1, 2016 at 8:41 pm I don’t know if I would call it humiliating, but it seems weird to have a “singles” table at a work party. It’s not like the single people won’t have anything to talk to the couples about – it’s a work function! They’re with their coworkers! It seems awkward and arbitrary to separate coworkers by whether they brought a date.
Colette* January 1, 2016 at 8:54 pm Totally agree that it’s a weird choice – but it’s not a personal judgement the way ugh seems to be taking it.
ugh* January 1, 2016 at 9:09 pm It was intentional. Based on the remarks said throughout the night by the organizer, it was meant as a slight. We have someone different plan the party every year and while we’ve had department tables before, this was the first time it was so separated. It was only my department that had a “singles table”. The other departments didn’t have anything, and there were spaces at some of the other “couples” tables. The person is charge of organizing most definitely meant it as an insult. Regardless, it’s like being relegated to the child’s table when you’re an adult. Just because someone is single doesn’t mean they’re not capable of talking to their married coworkers at a work party.
Colette* January 1, 2016 at 9:58 pm Were you the only person at the table? Presumably not. (If you were, I’d recommend just pulling up a chair at another table.) It’s possible that the organizer meant it as an insult in some way. It’s kind of sad that she thinks it’s an insult, if that’s really the case – but so what? Since this table was only for people in your department, you were still with people you know and with roughly equivalent jobs. Would you have been insulted if those same people brought dates? That would be essentially the same situation, without the “singles” aspect to it.
BuildMeUp* January 1, 2016 at 10:46 pm That’s really odd! At least since you have a different organizer every year, it shouldn’t happen again.
ginger ale for all* January 2, 2016 at 1:23 am Ugh! Please please please let the powers that be know that assigned seating at a company party is absolutely asinine. And I am one half of a couple who have been dating for about five years. I get to deal with the question of ‘So when are you getting married?’ on a regular basis. I usually reply with a ‘we aren’t ‘ but I want a more snarky answer for the repeat offenders (the comeback of telling them that they will have plenty of time to diet has been considered). There are people who will be rude whether you are single or coupled. They don’t seem to realize that they are being rude either.
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 8:31 pm When people ask personal questions multiple times, I sometimes remind them, that they asked me that before. “Oh, the answer is the same as the last time you asked.” Full STOP. Don’t repeat the answer you gave last time. Just let that hang there in mid-air. It depends on the person, if someone is just a known PITA then I have no problem replying like this.
Mina* January 1, 2016 at 4:45 pm I just bought an 08 Honda Fit Sport on Wednesday – and I named her Lady Flufferton. It just worked. I love this car. Thank you Allison for the inspiration!
periwinkle* January 1, 2016 at 5:56 pm We have a 2009 Fit Sport. We’ve never named it but sometimes refer to it as the Tardis. It’s amazing how much stuff you can load into a Fit!
Former Diet Coke Addict* January 1, 2016 at 6:01 pm I had a Fit for years and loved it. Great little car that could really fit a bizarre multitude of stuff into.
hermit crab* January 2, 2016 at 10:53 am My brother’s ca. 2006 Fit came with a manual showing how to arrange the seats etc. to fit various stuff inside. One of the items was a live alpaca. An alpaca! I will always remember that.
suze* January 1, 2016 at 7:33 pm I just bought a Toyota Tacoma on Thursday. My first new vehicle in 14 years. I was very attached to my 2002 Dakota but at 215K miles it was time. Good grief it was a complete pain going thru the process. I’m shocked at the salespeople who don’t return calls including the son of my best friend who I intended to purchase from. Ended up buying the truck elsewhere. I never have heard back from the son. Two salespeople we were waiting days to hear from finally called back while I was in the middle of finalizing the deal on the Tacoma. Too late! Congratulations on your Honda!
Mina* January 1, 2016 at 7:36 pm I sympathize with the frustration. It was a loooong process. Enjoy your new car.
BuildMeUp* January 1, 2016 at 8:43 pm Congrats! I have an ’09 Fit Sport named Judy (the built-in GPS voice just sounds like a Judy). I’m always surprised I don’t see more people driving Fits!
Merely* January 1, 2016 at 8:50 pm I’ve got an ’08 Fit and I love it! Moved across the country with all my furniture in it (college student, so admittedly not much — roll up mattress, small desk, collapsible shelves and chair, hamster in cage, but still….).
Rubyrose* January 1, 2016 at 10:58 pm I LOVED, LOVED my Fit! Had a 2011 Sport. I traded it in a couple of weeks ago for a CR-V. When I got the Fit I was working from home and could just not drive when the snow/sleet/ice would come. I just started a job at a hospital 13 miles away where I am required to come in during bad weather, no exceptions. We had a big snow two weeks ago and I had to face the realization that I needed all wheel drive and something with more weight. It was sad to do the trade in. You made a great choice.
Former Diet Coke Addict* January 2, 2016 at 12:12 pm Same same! I had a 2011 Sport, and sold it this year to buy a 2011 CR-V. I commute about 20k each direction to work, and while the Fit has been pretty decent in the snow so far, I realized I wanted something stronger and safer for the winter. Especially because this year we’ll be moving three hours further north and facing a LOT more snow–so I wanted the AWD and something sturdier. I miss my Fit, but I’m really pleased with the CR-V so far.
Former Diet Coke Addict* January 2, 2016 at 2:24 pm God, it was hard to get used to the difference in size! We got it in May or June, so I’ve had time to get used to it, but it was hard at first. I was so used to being able to zip into and out of any parking space I wanted and the maneuverability, and I still miss that, but it does feel better on the highway. My biggest problem with the Fit was feeling pushed around on the highway by winds and drifts by other cars, and I don’t feel that at all any more.
StillHealing* January 2, 2016 at 6:14 am Yay! Congratulations. I have a 2012 Honda Fit. It’s “Raspberry Blue” color but I call it Jedi Blue. :o) I had a CR-V for eight years then traded it in for an Odyssey for four years. Loved both but city driving and parking requires a small vehicle with good gas mileage. Traded down from the Odyessy to the FIT in 2012 and it has been my favorite car over all.
Blue_eyes* January 2, 2016 at 12:45 pm Love(d) my 2009 Honda Fit Sport! I had full custody of her for two years, then I moved to NYC and transferred the title to my parents. I still get to visit her on holidays though. ;) She was the first (and only) car I ever owned and she was/is great. Love how much stuff you can fit with the seats down, love how it drives. What color did you get? Mine is the dark purple metallic color.
Mina* January 2, 2016 at 1:40 pm Storm silver. And they did a fine job detailing it, plus a bit of bodywork to get out most of the dings.
Blue_eyes* January 2, 2016 at 1:45 pm Fun! After I bought mine, my best friend bought a silver one. We call hers “the Spaceship”.
financially irresponsible parents* January 1, 2016 at 4:49 pm does anyone else have financially irresponsible and difficult parents? how do you deal with the pressure and various emotional issues that come along with having to parent your parent? i’m 26 and my mother is an absolute trainwreck. she has a lot of mental problems (depression, and i’m fairly certain she’s either a narcissist or has borderline personality disorder), and is very, very bad with money. i grew up very poor, but as an adult i’m very good with money. all of my bills are paid in full and on time. i have no credit card debt, and i like to think that i make sound financial decisions. i should also add that i am much more educated than my mother, and i make significantly more money than she does. the problem is that she is terrible with money, and it really stresses me out. i can’t afford to support her financially right now as i live in an expensive city and make $$$ student loan payments each month. the problem is my mother. she has saved nothing for retirement and refuses to. she has always told me growing up that she didn’t need a retirement plan because i am her retirement plan. she continues saying this now that i’m an adult, except i don’t want to be her retirement plan! i can’t save for my own retirement/a down payment on a house/pay off student loan debt/etc if i’m supporting her. even when i tell her she should save for herself, she refuses. she used to ask me to “borrow” money, even when i was in school – when she knew i didn’t have a job, and i’d have to give her money from my student loans to support her. the last time she asked me for money was a week after i started my current job – after i had been unemployed for nearly a year, and 2 weeks after i had spent several thousand dollars of my savings for her to come to my city for my university graduation, because she wouldn’t have been able to afford it otherwise. a few months after that my grandfather passed away, and she asked me to pay for the cost of his funeral because they had no savings/insurance to pay for it. my latest frustration is that she bought a new car yesterday. except, because she has such awful credit she can only get subprime car loans at insane interest rates. because of this her car payment for a 5 year old chevy is the same as my boyfriend’s brand new mercedes e class payment. at first she told me she was getting a new car at a refinanced lower rate (12% vs nearly 30%), but this new car is at the same rate as her old one. this financial irresponsibility is compounded with severe emotional issues my mother has, and a whole host of other problems including difficulty with boundary setting, being incredibly self absorbed, etc. my entire childhood and adult life i existed to make my mother happy and validate her emotions, and now as an adult i feel like she makes me crazy! she still uses me as her emotional crutch – her latest episode was calling me at christmas threatening to kill herself because no one loved her and everyone left her alone (if you can’t tell i don’t go back home for christmas). i’m an only child and she has no spouse – so she is my responsibility and it’s super stressful having that burden on my shoulders. how do those of you with irresponsible parents do it? it’s gotten to the point that i hate having to talk to her at all, but i know i can never tell her any of this because with her emotional issues she would take it very, very poorly. sorry for the wall of text – but i’ve never been able to get any help for this. even the various therapist i’ve gone to have kind of given up when they hear how crazy my family life was/is!
Shannon* January 1, 2016 at 5:01 pm You can’t fix her and she’s not your responsibility. If it makes you feel better, budget a small amount each month that you have in case of mom emergencies. What’s there is what’s there. When that money is gone, you have no more money for her. Keep trying another therapist, because it sounds like you still need help setting boundaries with your mother.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 5:08 pm Wow, that’s really daunting–I can see why you’re stressed about this. I do think you’ve had a poor run of luck with therapists, though–there are therapists treating survivors of genocides, after all, so this really isn’t the biggest problem therapy has ever had to face–and you might keep exploring the therapy options. However, without getting into the emotional side too deeply, can I ask you to consider that she is *not* your responsibility? That she is an adult and is her own responsibility, no matter what she says, and part of your disentangling from her is understanding that it’s not your job to fix her, save her, or make her happy–and that it’s okay if she takes things poorly? I know you were probably raised to think that that was the end of the world (that’s true even in many less dysfunctional families), but it’s really not. On the finances: I’ve mentioned the finance forum bogleheads.org here a few times, and this problem comes up there with some frequency, so you’re not alone by any means and you might want to look there for more details. What I see people doing a lot is making decisions, in concert with a partner if there is one, about what specifically they would be prepared to give and what would have to happen before they’d give it. Grocery gift cards, direct payment of rent, etc., are more popular than just handing over money, for obvious reasons, and people often figure out a clear ceiling of what they can give, even figuring it into their budget. I personally would be uninclined to give her money at all this point if she’s got enough money to buy a car, so it’d be mostly planning for later. Is she working? Do you know if she’ll be eligible for Social Security? Sorry. This one isn’t fair, and you’re right to find it nerve-racking.
financially irresponsible parents* January 2, 2016 at 2:07 am I should have made i clear in the OP that I stopped giving her money. When she asked me the last time I said no to her, and I refused paying for my grandfather’s funeral as well. That was really difficult and she threw a lot of guilt my way (“I know I should be doing better! I’m such a failure!” etc) but I got through it. My bf & I both agreed we will not support her in anyway, but it’s a really difficult struggle getting through years of conditioning that she put me through, even though logically I know what I need to do. Since my grandfather died it’s been really difficult – her emotional outbursts have gotten worse and talking to her is nearly intolerable. The car thing is just the straw that broke the proverbial camels back today. ty for your help! you always leave such useful comments.
Hellanon* January 2, 2016 at 9:06 am Good for you for recognizing that it’s *conditioning* and not logic that’s behind feeling guilty when you say no or contemplate saying no. It’s an extreme form of emotional manipulation – your mom doesn’t even need to throw the tantrum anymore because you already know that any form of resistance on your part will be met with one. My sympathies. My parents have the financial smarts of a pair of voles and have approached their financial decision-making with a combination of magical thinking ad cheap vodka their entire lives. They’re currently running through an inheritance that they “couldn’t” share with my sister & I and after a lifetime of hearing “we’d love to give you money but we just can’t, oh and by the way, can we borrow $1000?”, she and I are practicing our no’s. It’s not going to be pretty. Hold firm. She is not your responsibility – that’s not how it works.
Ruffingit* January 1, 2016 at 5:11 pm My parents are total opposites in terms of finances. They’ve been divorced for decades. My father has planned for everything for himself including his eventual cremation and said he never wanted to be a burden on his children. My mother, on the other hand, has done no financial planning and lives with my husband and me due to her many medical issues. She is not a narcissist or borderline so there’s that, but she did say she would live with me when I was a young adult and I resisted that. When it came right down to it though, she was unable to live alone due to her medical issues. Though I am not an only child (3 other older siblings), none of them are capable of caring for our mother and none of them contribute financially to her care. So it’s just me and my husband. My situation is different from yours in that my husband and I agreed together to take in my mother and when it came right down to it, there was no other choice. She couldn’t live alone due to her medical issues. My advice to you is to stop enabling your mother. Do not under any circumstances give her money. She has to learn that her decisions have consequences. Make it very clear to her that you will not be her retirement plan and if she doesn’t start getting her financial life together, she will end up in a shelter. Harsh? No, it’s reality. You cannot handle your mother’s issues and live your life as you need to. Her poor choices need not become your burden. Just because you are her only child doesn’t mean she is your responsibility. YOU are your responsibility. None of this is easy, but if I’ve learned anything in my many years as the emotional crutch for a parent is that you have to set boundaries. I do that with my mother now. She is passive-aggressive and tries to do the guilt thing sometimes. I let her know firmly that I do not operate with passive-aggressiveness and guilt. If she wanted something, she needed to use her words and be a grown-up. It has helped a lot. If your mom threatens to kill herself, call the local police in her town and let them know she made the threat. They will send someone to her home and possibly escort her to the hospital on a mental health hold. I guarantee she won’t make that threat again. Bottom line is that you need to make decisions that work for you. Your mother will someday die and you will be left with massive debt or working until your own death because you made her problems your problems. Don’t do this. Get therapy to help you work through the many issues surrounding this. It will help you navigate this.
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 6:25 pm My advice to you is to stop enabling your mother. Do not under any circumstances give her money. She has to learn that her decisions have consequences. Make it very clear to her that you will not be her retirement plan and if she doesn’t start getting her financial life together, she will end up in a shelter. Harsh? No, it’s reality. Please listen to this. Your mother is out of control.
Dynamic Beige* January 2, 2016 at 7:38 pm Her poor choices need not become your burden. Except in some jurisdictions, which are experimenting with laws that would shift the duty of care on to the children. I wish I could say that I am making that up, but I’m not. When I first heard about it, I thought that surely it couldn’t be true, but it is.
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 8:39 pm I know a few states had laws about the children have to pay the medical bills. But I thought that the laws were very seldom enforced. There aren’t enough bad words in the English language for me to say how I feel about those laws. When I 23 my mother left over a quarter mill in medical bills. At that time minimum wage was about 3.50 an hour, I think. At that rate, I would have had to sign over my paycheck for 71,000 working hours. I have no clue how a person would handle that stress load.
Ruffingit* January 3, 2016 at 11:02 am These are Filial Responsibility Laws and they are not as clear cut as they sound. From my research, they generally come into play when a parent does not have the ability to provide necessities for themselves. Necessities include shelter, food, medical care. BUT…the child’s own financial situation is also taken into account such as their personal needs for savings and retirement for themselves. Also, some states do not oppose this duty on children whose parents abandoned them or did not support them. More info here: http://www.bankrate.com/finance/insurance/map-states-parental-support-laws.aspx
Not So NewReader* January 3, 2016 at 5:33 pm Adding one more thought: Just because some person tells you that you are responsible for paying a bill, does not make it true just because they said that. In two different states, ten years apart, I had two times where someone from the accounting department of a hospital WAITED for me outside my parent’s room to tell me I had to pay the medical bills. The first time it happened, I said “You can’t get blood out of stone.” I was dead broke. The second time it happened, I said, “Here’s the family lawyer’s number, call him and tell him.” And that ended that conversation. In NYS, the two people I know of that actually paid their parent’s bills both had kept their parent’s real estate. The lien went against the real estate and had to be paid off at the time of the owner’s passing. Selling the property would bring that to a conclusion. So when the adult child wanted to keep the property they had to negotiate a payment plan.
asteramella* January 1, 2016 at 5:38 pm Ha ha ha, did I write this? I have an eerily similar mom (down to “you’re my retirement plan”!). If you are not currently in therapy–it can be very helpful for articulating new boundaries with your mother. Even if therapists haven’t worked well for you in the past, going in with a focused plan to learn and grow coping skills and boundary-setting might yield useful results. For me, I had to recognize that 1) my mom is not my responsibility and that 2) my money is not my mom’s money. I had to decide not to “lend” her any more money (let’s be real, I’ll never see that money again). And I had to practice saying: sorry I can’t help you, but you’ll figure it out, Mom. I know you’ll make it work. I cannot afford to support my mom, either, and even if I could, I’d just be throwing money into a black hole and enabling her destructive financial habits. If I give her $500 for an emergency, that just means she’ll spend that $500 on non-essentials and come back later asking for money for the same emergency. Captain Awkward has some good posts about family who treat you like an ATM/retirement plan/safety net, too. Sounds like reading about “parentalization” may be helpful to you too.
super anon* January 1, 2016 at 9:52 pm When I learned about parentalization/parentification I realized that it fit me and my childhood 100%. It explained why I am the way I am as an adult and the interactions between my mother and I. I know it’s not good to self-diagnose yourself, but even having a phrase to google to get advice and realize that I wasn’t crazy and my childhood wasn’t normal and okay was such an eye opener and was the start of my journey and the realization that my mother & our relationship was Not Okay.
asteramella* January 2, 2016 at 2:05 am Eh, self-diagnosis can be helpful in many cases, but that’s here nor there. When trying to figure out how to deal with difficult people, the behavior is what matters, not the diagnosis. I will never know if my mom “officially” has a personality disorder, but reading about narcissism and narcissistic parents has helped me immensely because her behavior is the same.
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 7:53 pm so she is my responsibility and it’s super stressful having that burden on my shoulders. Others have said this, but it bears repeating: your mother is not your responsibility. Based on your description, she’s being emotionally manipulative and making you feel as if she is your responsibility, but she is not. her latest episode was calling me at christmas threatening to kill herself because no one loved her and everyone left her alone I know this is going to sound cruel to you, because I’m an outsider who doesn’t know your mother, but you really have to call her bluff on this emotional blackmail. If she’s genuinely suicidal, your suddenly coming over for Christmas isn’t going to change that. And if she’s just being emotionally manipulative, all the more reason not to give into her demands. I know that is difficult. I know it is easy for strangers who don’t know you or your mother to say she’s not your responsibility, but she genuinely is not. I wish I had something better to give you than that. You are in a tough, tough position, especially since it sounds as if, despite her problems and how difficult she’s making life for you, you genuinely love your mother and wish the best for her.
Florida* January 1, 2016 at 9:07 pm There is a book called Emotional Blackmail by Susan Forward. I highly recommend it to people who parents use guilt. It’s a common book that your local library probably has.
Dynamic Beige* January 2, 2016 at 7:42 pm She has another one called Mothers Who Can’t Love which is also probably available at the local library.
BuildMeUp* January 1, 2016 at 8:54 pm That sounds really, really tough. As a few others have said, I know it’s difficult, but please keep trying on the therapist front! Eventually you will find someone who’s the right fit, and it can make a huge difference. I’m seconding the Captain Awkward rec – she writes pretty frequently about difficult parents and setting boundaries. There’s a recent post titled “Family, Finances, & Feelings” (it should be the first google result for that phrase) that deals directly with parents who ask for money, and I’m sure there’s more in the archives that would be helpful. I’ve also heard that the reddit subthread “Raised by Narcissists” is really helpful. I would also strongly suggest checking your credit report ASAP. Parents with boundary and money issues, especially ones who consider your money “their money,” often have no qualms with taking out a credit cards or loans in their kids’ names. I know it’s not fun to think about, but if you do decide to officially cut her off, you might want to put an alert or freeze on your credit to prevent something like that from happening in the future.
financially irresponsible parents* January 1, 2016 at 10:02 pm I’ve checked my credit report and it is okay aside from one account for a very small amount that’s reporting as in collections that makes no sense (I didn’t open or close any accounts with that company in the timeframe it registers at, nor does the charge ring any bells for me) that I’m currently working on tracking down and getting removed from my report. I was recently able to get a several thousand dollar credit increase on an existing card, and a brand new credit card account for several thousand so I think I am okay at this point. I have added “get a credit report” to my yearly to do list because it’s a financially sound thing to do anyway.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 10:32 pm You can get it every four months for free! You’re allowed one free one a year from each of the companies–Transunion, Equifax, and Experian–and you can cycle through the companies so you’re getting one free one every four months.
financially irresponsible parents* January 2, 2016 at 1:10 am i’m canadian – here to get free credit reports you have to request it by mail, and iirc you can only get one a year. most people i know buy their reports online for $20 because it’s faster and less hassle.
Finny* January 2, 2016 at 12:57 am Agreed, as I had to file bankruptcy when I was just out of university (so 21 years old, in my case), thanks to my mother taking out many many credit cards in my name. I lost count of how many she got, but I had to get rid of all of them, and my own cards, thanks to that mess.
Dear Liza dear liza* January 1, 2016 at 8:58 pm Ooof. I actually went to a therapist a few years ago on this issue because I felt like I had to give my mom money, while my partner vehemently disagreed. To my shock, the therapist, who had a background in social work, sided with my partner! She said she had numerous patients in similar circumstances, and she coached me a bit on setting boundaries. Good luck!
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 9:07 pm I am thinking that the problem with therapists is that they did not have an action plan for you. Probably because they had never encountered a problem as serious as yours. It’s okay to ask if the therapist has experience with your type situation. There are plenty of people who do have a mother that is soaking up way to much of their time/energy/money/other resources. You made it pretty clear here, tell them what you have said here. Then ask if they have ever successfully helped someone through this minefield. But, yes, to everything said here, boundaries, calling the police for suicide threats and so on. What is your goal here? (Not snark. Sincerely want to know what you want out of this situation.) Okay, next question, what changes would be enough that you could live with it? What you are facing is the task of filling in the Grand Canyon and you only have a teaspoon to scoop the fill with. She is telling you that you are her retirement plan. This means that she plans on draining you until her dying day. That is her plan. Yes, she is actually going to do this. At some point you will have to start saying no. The longer you wait, the longer it will take for her to understand you mean NO. This is because you have said yes so many times, in her mind no cannot possibly mean no. (I really hope you did not pay for your grandfather’s funeral.) And yes, she will get emotional with you. That is her way of manipulating you to get what she wants. It’s hissy fits or temper tantrums, not unlike what five year olds do. If it helps picture her as a very tall five year old. Take some time to google books on mother-daughter relationships. Most library systems have quite a few of them, if you prefer just to borrow the books. I have read a few and it’s helpful to see the patterns in people’s stories. And it is also good to read about what others did (everyone does something a little different) and what worked/did not work for them and how they felt about it all.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 4:08 pm You might want to seek out a family therapist, not a regular “my own mental health” therapist. You don’t have to go -with- your mother to the family therapist.
Finny* January 1, 2016 at 10:29 pm My parents were similar. I cut them off entirely, no contact, and moved to another country. Best decision I ever made, though I know it’s not for everyone with parent-related issues. Still no contact with my dad, but my mother and I reconciled a couple years before her death.
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 10:35 pm I was thinking about this tonight as a math problem. The choices are basically saving one person–yourself–or saving no person–because you’ll destroy yourself to save your mother and save neither. Saving yourself is the road with the most overall benefit.
Blue_eyes* January 2, 2016 at 12:57 pm This is like the thinking that EMTs/Wilderness First Responders/etc. use when they enter a situation. The first thing you think about is scene safety because you never want to create another victim. Your first instinct is to rush in and pull that person out from a rock slide, but if more rocks slide and you get injured too, then there are two victims and one less rescuer, so you’ve just made the situation worse for everyone.
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 8:45 pm We were taught the same thing in first aid. Do not allow yourself to become injured. This was particularly important for all the seizures we assisted with. Some get very violent and very random. We were told to get back, wait, then go back in and try to assist some more. We said, “But, but, but” and the instructor said, “No buts. That person needs to you to stay UNinjured so you can keep assisting.”
Rubyrose* January 1, 2016 at 11:21 pm I think you have been given some awesome advise from everyone here and i don’t think I can rephrase it any better. In the course of being in therapy I ran across several borderline personality types. Yep, I called the police several times when I heard the suicide threat. They finally figured out not to make those threats in front of me, I would act on them, just not the reaction they wanted. I also had to cut all contact with my mom. She was doing different things than yours, but the bottom line was that she did not want to face reality and deal with issues in an adult manner. She screwed up my childhood, but she was not going to mess up the rest of my life. You can do this..
Artemesia* January 3, 2016 at 4:11 pm You have to decide to free yourself of this and then get some emotional/therapeutic support of your own to do this. And you need to make it crystal clear to her that you are not her retirement plan and that she will not be living with you or getting support from you in her old age; she will have to make do with her social security and savings. look into financial services for older people in your area and offer to set her up with someone to advise her on how to set up an IRA with automatic deduction. It is one thing to step up to help a parent who falls on hard times through no fault of their own — it happens and it is a cold world. But someone who blithely fritters away her money, indebts herself and brags that you are her retirement plan doesn’t deserve the support and will literally eat your life up. How will you prepare for your own retirement and support your own family when the day comes if this vampire is glued to your neck. I would also seriously look into employment as far away from her as possible. If you are in Boston, start looking for work in Seattle. But most of all you need someone to help you sort through this so you can hold a firm line.
Ruffingit* January 1, 2016 at 4:59 pm BEST AND WORST OF 2015! What was the best thing about the year and the worst?
De Minimis* January 1, 2016 at 5:10 pm Best–was able to transition between leaving my last job and finding a new one after four months of searching. That’s pretty good for me. Worst–lost our oldest dog the week before Christmas.
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 6:32 pm BEST: Getting promoted into a new division in my current company after suffering through my psychotic soon-to-be former boss’s meltdowns this year. I start the new job in two weeks! Yay! WORST: Watching someone I was secretly in love with marry someone else. Well not technically since I wasn’t at the wedding, but you know what I mean. My heart hurts every time I think about it, and I’m dreading seeing him around work in the new year since I’m still irrationally sad and wondering when the hell I’m going to get over this.
Nobody* January 1, 2016 at 9:59 pm Congrats on the promotion, and sorry about the guy. I have a “one who got away,” and Facebook loves to throw him in my face as someone I might know (and his profile pictures are always things that rub it in, like his engagement photo, his wedding picture, him holding his new baby, etc.).
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 10:35 pm Thank you! And ugh – I’m sorry to hear that. It’s times like this I’m glad I don’t do the whole social media thing. Seeing his wedding pictures and then the inevitable pics of his babies with the perfect wife would send me over the edge. It’s the main reason I declined a job working in his division over a year ago, and it was a job I would have been good at too. *sigh* I hope you can at least block those alerts or something.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 11:15 pm Ugh, been there done that got the t-shirt. *hug* There’s nothing to do but move on.
Doriana Gray* January 2, 2016 at 7:24 am Lol, hell I was considering actually moving! That would solve that whole accidentally bumping into each other thing for sure if I lived in another state.
Elizabeth West* January 2, 2016 at 11:59 am Plus meeting lots of new people. :) I’d move in a heartbeat if 1) I had any means to, and 2) I had anywhere to go.
Doriana Gray* January 2, 2016 at 6:30 pm I’m in the same boat (no money to move). I’m hoping my new job will help with that after a while, but then I have to figure out where I’d go – all the places I want to move (NYC, LA, New England) are expensive. This is the problem with having champagne taste on a beer budget.
nep* January 1, 2016 at 7:30 pm Worst: A parent losing three siblings throughout the year Best: Falling in love
jamlady* January 1, 2016 at 7:57 pm BEST: Finishing my Master’s and landing a great higher level permanent job where my husband and I wanted to end up (jobs like this don’t exist in my field, so the timing was super perfect). WORST: My husband being stuck in the military and halfway across the country for the last 9 months wondering if his contract would ever end (and as of today, it did, so that goes in the best for 2016).
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 9:12 pm BESTEST! (for me, at any rate) getting my house fixed after all these years. It’s been a long haul, still a ways to go but many of the safety issues are over and gone. I feel twenty years younger. Worst (very minor) I think I have pulled just about every muscle in my body doing this work. I am not 20 any more. I can’t lift 12 foot sheets of sheet rock. dang.
Ruffingit* January 1, 2016 at 9:36 pm BEST: Getting a new job and being able to leave the hell of my last toxic workplace. WORST: Just a general feeling of exhaustion and needing to take a vacation, but not being able to.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 11:12 pm Best: 1. It’s OVER! 2. England again. And hanging out with friends there. And seeing James Horner at Royal Albert Hall. :’) And getting a reader pass to one of the world’s largest research libraries (nerdgasm!). Although it will expire in April–dammit! Worst: 1. TWO crushes and both of them turned out horribly! I’m sick of crushes. I want something real! 2. Watching other people get EXACTLY what I wanted. It’s my turn now, 2016. Get on it or I’ll kick you with my skates on.
Doriana Gray* January 2, 2016 at 7:29 am Your #2 worst is where I’m at, minus the skate kicking since I don’t own any, lol.
Former Diet Coke Addict* January 1, 2016 at 11:31 pm Best: completed a full year of blogging, got to visit Banff and Lake Louise (which I’ve always wanted to do!), published a few articles, and did some home improvement with my husband and our house looks great now. Worst: Many, many things, but the worst of the worst is probably that my dad was diagnosed with terminal, metastasized esophageal cancer, and will likely have only a year or two at the most left.
Rubyrose* January 1, 2016 at 11:32 pm Best – new job that for IT is a cushy job. Working for a hospital, NO ON CALL, first shift, Monday – Friday, so far maximum of 43 hours a week. No funny hours to work with offshore. Best manager I’ve had in 20 years and the job uses my strengths. Also, I’ve come to understand and really appreciate my experience and strengths. For the first time I’m really confident in myself and know where my limits are. Worst – decline in overall health, due to the crazy contractor job I had earlier in the year before the new cushy job. I still have a cough from mid May that the doctors have having trouble nailing down.
ginger ale for all* January 2, 2016 at 4:31 am Best – I can’t decide. The one best that still warms my heart would out my identity here because it was in the news (I am not famous but it would be easy to google). Worst – I still don’t have control of a health issue and it leads to a lot of rough days. I hate calling in sick at my new job.
StillHealing* January 2, 2016 at 6:46 am WORST of 2015 was finding out on my 22 Wedding Anniversary that my husband was having an affair with the old neighborhood girlfriend who had tracked him down in November 2014. (Just after divorcing her third husband) BEST of 2015 was The Divorce from the lying, cheating bastard being final, December 23rd!
Sydney Bristow* January 2, 2016 at 6:20 pm Best: Got married, got to go to Australia, and landed a permanent job after 4 years of temping. It really was an awesome year. Worst: Found out on NYE that my grandmother who has always been super healthy has breast cancer. I don’t know all the details yet but my sister said she thinks it is stage 4. I’m completely gutted over this.
Rin* January 2, 2016 at 7:36 pm Worst: Death. Everywhere. Family, work, friends. Best: Seeing the last of a toxic person.
Not So NewReader* January 3, 2016 at 11:20 am Please do something this year to reknit/reset your setting. Invest in you in some manner that is meaningful to you. I lost eleven close family members in five years, even the dog passed. I went through my days robotically, patiently trying to wait for the tidal wave to subside. I did some reading, some massage therapy, praying/meditating. I watched less news. I moved away from the toxic people in my life. So, you see there are many ways that you can invest in you/your life. It’s not fair when we are hurting the most we have to work even harder. But we know ourselves better than anyone, so we should get to decide how best to proceed. May the new year be much kinder to you.
Mallory Janis Ian* January 2, 2016 at 9:09 pm Best: Daughter earning a national merit scholarship that covers her entire room/board and tuition with about $1,000/semester left for textbooks, etc. She is completely financially covered for her four-year degree. Worst: Leaving my university job to go work for my department head’s private firm, only to discover that his wife was like working for a spoiled toddler. Best 2: Getting hired back at the university, with a promotion, after that fiasco.
SL #2* January 3, 2016 at 2:07 am Congrats to your daughter! I was about 3/4s covered for my 4 years and the best part of it all was my parents’ palpable relief. And congrats on the return to your old job!
Lizzy* January 2, 2016 at 11:39 pm I will answer in terms of my professional life… Worst 1.0: Working the most soul-sucking job of my professional career. Best: Getting laid off from soul-sucking job, which led me to getting a temp job with an awesome organization (and the potential to go permanent later this year).
Lizzy* January 2, 2016 at 11:40 pm Forgive my typo. I was going to list 2 worsts, but realized that the second one was actually quite a blessing and combined it into my best.
Stargazer* January 3, 2016 at 12:16 am Worst: being diagnosed and treated for breast cancer. Best: PEOPLE – Getting married and having the wedding of my dreams, as well as all the kindness from friends, family, and coworkers around my diagnosis.
Ann Furthermore* January 3, 2016 at 1:06 am Best: A wonderful and much-needed vacation to Hawaii, where none of us had ever been. Thank you, frequent flyer miles! Runner up — being able to take the week of Christmas and New Year’s off. I took the same week off last year, and both times I was able to get SO much done: cleaned out my closet, made a bunch of stuff for the freezer, and generally got things organized. I’m going to try and do that again this year too. Worst: Working on an absolutely awful project with horrible, horrible, horrible users. I’ve ranted about them periodically here. Completely clueless and helpless. The stupidity reached its apogee in September, when they called me at 11:00 one night in a panic with an emergency that HAD to be resolved immediately. So I got out of bed and fired up my laptop. Then they called back at 11:10 to say, “Oh, never mind, we’ll just figure it out tomorrow.” OMG. I hope things will be better with them in 2016.
Soupspoon McGee* January 3, 2016 at 3:00 pm Best: I’m going back to school, and I keep surprising myself with A’s and B’s in subjects I never thought I’d do well in, let alone like. Who knew I’d like organic chemistry or could get A’s in anatomy and microbiology? Not me! Worst: We lost my 14-year-0ld kitty, Lily Marlena. She was a beauty.
Carmen Sandiego JD* January 4, 2016 at 11:34 am Best: The boyfriend spent time with me at Christmas, he gave me a promise ring (said in his card he’s contemplating long-term..er…commitments). Also, his mom, who is nice but really hard to please, seems to like me and even offered to lend me her silver ornate Xmas stuff. Worst: My mom keeps trying to fix me up with doctors/lawyers and says my bf isn’t good enough. Also, she’s saying to not make permanent commitments (ie. do not get engaged) without explicitly saying so. Silver Lining: My mom can’t actually say “don’t get engaged” bc I have awesome extended family that really has my and my bf’s back thank goodness…..and my mom knows there are certain things she can’t get away with saying
De Minimis* January 1, 2016 at 5:09 pm Been off for the holidays, dreading coming back Monday. Wondering how much is just the usual “don’t want to go back to work” thing or if it’s genuine dissatisfaction. I’ve already sort of decided I probably just want to stay long enough at this job to be fully vested in the retirement plan, then go elsewhere. The pay and benefits are good and I like a lot of things about the place, but have been disappointed with the lack of work/life balance. I work with one supervisor who works very late every night and I can tell they are not happy that I want to go home after working all day. My half-year evaluation will be later in the spring, I guess we’ll see where I stand then. I feel like I work to improve, but I worry that I am still not doing well enough. Just want to hang on to this job a few years, I don’t see a lot of advancement opportunity here–they do give raises and promotions based on taking on new responsibilities, but I don’t really see a lot of room to move up in my department. My goal really is just to pay some debt off, possibly relocate to a place with lower cost of living, and be able to survive on a lower paying job, work another decade or so and then hope that I can start transitioning to working less….I’m approaching my mid-40s and have always kind of struggled as far as work. I just want to shore things up to where we can get by on less if we have to….
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 1, 2016 at 5:10 pm Who has good new year’s eve or new year’s day traditions? My husband and I spent a good hour last night after midnight naming all the good things that happened in our lives in 2015 — big stuff (we made it to our 2-year wedding anniversary! we adopted Eve! I bought a new car, which at first I hated but then I loved!), but also small stuff (we ate a ton of tacos!). We’ve decided to make it our new new year’s eve tradition, and I am hereby recommending it to others. This does not require a partner; you could also do it on your own. (Similarly, when I turned 30 and was completely freaked out by where my 20s had gone, I made a long list of all the things I’d done in my 20s and it made me feel much better about the passage of time.)
fposte* January 1, 2016 at 5:19 pm I love this. The older I get, the more important I find it to appreciate pleasures and achievements of all sizes, not just the big stuff. Not quite “stop and smell the roses” (though I love my roses); more “yell with victory when you finally clean the vase.”
Elkay* January 1, 2016 at 6:00 pm This is a seasonal tradition we’re going to shift to new year’s this year. I love party food but we don’t get invited to parties so we buy a load of party platter food, all the small canapé type things and eat that while sitting in on our own.
Audiophile* January 1, 2016 at 6:34 pm I like the idea of making a list of good things that happened in my 20s. I turn 30 this month and it’s totally freaking me out. The only thing keeping me sane at this point, is that I have a new job. (I feel you played a significant part in this, Alison, so thank you!)
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 1, 2016 at 6:44 pm I was extremely freaked out about turning 30 (way more so than turning 40, for some reason), but it turned out that the 30s are awesome. You’re still quite young but (often) have more disposable income, a better sense of yourself, and less concern about what people think of you. I loved the 30s. So far, I find the 40s weird. I feel officially middle-aged, which is strange, and I feel like true aging is in sight — like I know it’s coming in a way that I never quite processed before. But yes, do that list! I loved doing mine.
De Minimis* January 1, 2016 at 7:02 pm 40 just kind of came and went, I didn’t think of it as being much different than the late 30s. I’m only starting to feel the 40s now, I’ll be officially in the mid-40s this year and now it’s starting to hit me. I think a lot of it is my body starting to feel older—more aches and pains, vision problems. etc.
Audiophile* January 1, 2016 at 7:24 pm A lot of people say the 30s are awesome, I really hope so. I feel like I have a better group of more dependable and mature friends, than I did in my early 20s. Which I really needed. I hope I have more income, because at this point, it can’t get any worse than it was in my early 20s when I barely made enough to get to work. My birthday falls on a Friday this year and as much as I’ve joked with friends about requesting the day off, I have no real plans, so I might as well work. I may change my hours a bit, so I can do an early dinner with friends. I’ll definitely make a mental note to do that list.
danr* January 1, 2016 at 8:19 pm Put your fears of middle age far away. My grandmother, who lived to 92 said that middle age really started at about 65. Her problem was that at 80 she had widowers chasing her who thought she was around 70 or so.
Ruffingit* January 1, 2016 at 9:38 pm My best friend put it well when she said “Your 20s are for learning lessons, your 30s are for applying them.”
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 11:23 pm Wait until you hit 50, Alison. :P I became eligible for my first discount–a small one at Hancock Fabrics, less than the 55+ one but still a SENIOR discount. At first, I was like “WHUUUUUUUT NOOOOOOOO” But then I was like, “DISCOUNT WOOOOOOOOOOOOO” It was weird.
edj3* January 2, 2016 at 7:01 am 25 was my hard birthday. I was in a miserable marriage with two small children and could not see an end to wiping poopy bottoms and snotty noses. Every significant birthday since (and I am past the half century mark) has been a breeze in comparison. I can’t remember where I read or heard this but it’s stuck with me: Your first 50 years are largely luck; the second 50 are shaped by the choices you make. So while I don’t make resolutions, I do a gut check on the choices I’m making. I want to live fully all the way to the end, whenever that may come.
Soupspoon McGee* January 3, 2016 at 2:55 pm I don’t feel like I’m in my mid-40’s. Last night, I was thinking that one of my perfumes smelled like it fit a 50-year-old woman, then I realized I’m almost 50. I guess I’ll hang onto it for a few more years.
danr* January 1, 2016 at 8:15 pm We cook a good dinner and have a very good bottle of wine. We talk about the good things we’re looking forward to for the coming year.
Katie the Fed* January 2, 2016 at 8:31 am I have a couple to add: A couple years ago I started sending my then-fiance an email to his gmail on NYE with the highs and lows and funny memories of the year. Like: I tried durian for the first time. We went white water rafting in west virginia. My grandmother died. Etc I figure as we get older we’ll start to forget a lot of the little things and I want to remember it all :) Second – we have an annual NY Day open house. It’s very nice and casual and every seems to enjoy it. I plan to keep doing it.
Sydney Bristow* January 2, 2016 at 6:23 pm I do the same! Each year I like to make my Awesome List of all the things I did over the past year both big and small. I also look over the resolutions I’d made the previous year, see how I did, and set new ones.
Dynamic Beige* January 2, 2016 at 7:59 pm I heard something this year about making a “good things” jar and I decided that I would do it and do it as a gift for someone. The idea is that whenever something good happens, you write it down on a scrap of paper and put it in the jar. Then, you pick a day to pull them all out and read them. New year’s, Xmas, Thanksgiving, whenever it’s full? The choice is yours. I think that sometimes it’s just easier to remember the bad things, because they take over your life and really stand out. This would be a way to be reminded about the other stuff and celebrate that.
Soupspoon McGee* January 3, 2016 at 2:57 pm We did something different this year. We went out to to dinner and talked about our goals for the new year (not resolutions, but things we wanted to focus on). Then we went home, put on pajamas, watched a movie, and kissed at midnight. It was lovely.
Mike Schmitt* January 1, 2016 at 5:43 pm I started at a new law firm yesterday and finished at my previous firm at midnight the night before…and quite literally at midnight. I was working up to the second the clock struck midnight to finish projects that were assigned to me. The project I was working on late that night was late but had been pushed for weeks because other more urgent things kept popping up for other partners. In any event, I was almost done when, at 12:00AM, the computer screen went blue and I was locked out. So, unable to access the documents or email, I called my boss’s work line and explained that it was almost done but I was locked out, have a happy new year, it shouldn’t take another associate long at all to finish up, been a pleasure, etc. I had been working for this firm for 5 years and had developed a reputation for quality work and so I got a lot of work from a variety of partners, who each wished me the best and told me that it was a pleasure working with me and that I would be hard to replace, etc. Content with my exit and looking forward to my first day at the new firm yesterday, I dozed off.. Then, after arriving at my new firm and meeting all of the staff and feeling very happy about my decision to leave my previous firm, my pocket buzzed. I looked at my phone and found the following message from the former boss: “Mike, I just looked at the assignment and it is nowhere near complete. You assured me you would finish it. I am extremely disappointed in you, especially after I had the firm bend over backwards a couple of times for you.” I was irate, both at the fact that he sent me anything at all and because I had no idea what the bending over backwards crap was all about at all, as I never once received negative feedback. Also, the system must have saved only a prior draft because the assignment was nearly done. What would you do? He was the main reason I left in the first place and I have dreamed of telling him off for years. I have half a mind to do it now but also know that I try my best to keep a level head. But I’m having a very hard time just letting this sit.
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 6:39 pm Let it go. I know I’ve had two bosses I would loved to let have it for being assholes (my current one being the second), but as Alison and one of my former bosses pointed out to me, my leaving was all that needed to be said – getting a new, and better, gig was the ultimate win. That text from your former boss is petty and unprofessional and says more about him than it does you. Kick ass at your new job and don’t worry about this guy.
Mike Schmitt* January 1, 2016 at 8:42 pm That was very kind of you to say and it really helped me feel a lot better. Thank you!
danr* January 1, 2016 at 8:13 pm Let it go, and if you answer just mention that the system locked you out at midnight without saving your work. Bet the IT folks can find the bit you were working on though. And, congratulations on starting a new job, and look forward only.
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 9:24 pm “Mike, I just looked at the assignment and it is nowhere near complete. You assured me you would finish it. I am extremely disappointed in you, especially after I had the firm bend over backwards a couple of times for you.” “Bob,the system must have saved only a prior draft because the assignment was nearly done. I did have it almost finished and the system locked me out at midnight. I am sorry to hear that you are so disappointed. It was my intent to do my best right up to my last minute of work. As far as bending over backwards, Bob, I am sorry to hear this, too. It has always been my wish that we worked well together. Unfortunately, I am not in a position where I can fix either concern. I am only left with sincerely wishing you the best in the future. Mike”
Ruffingit* January 1, 2016 at 9:41 pm ^^^ If you’re going to reply, this is a really good script for it!
MsChanandlerBong* January 1, 2016 at 6:03 pm I have a résumé dilemma, and I’m sure AAM readers will know what to do! I’ve been a freelance writer for 11 years. Unfortunately, almost every single one of my clients has me a sign a non-disclosure agreement before I start writing. I’m not allowed to tell anyone I wrote their content, and I can’t share the content with anyone as part of my work portfolio. Most of the work I do is for law firms and medical practices (law firm blog posts, articles on medical conditions, website copy for physician practices and urgent care centers, etc.). I want to update my résumé so I have it on hand to send to potential clients, but I am having trouble figuring out how I should format everything when I can’t mention my clients’ names. Would it be weird to list each company as “Raleigh, NC Law Firm” or “Baltimore, MD Urology Practice” and then list out all the projects I’ve completed? Or should I just put Freelance Writer/Editor at the top of the section and make a list of selected projects (brochure copy, blog posts, attorney profiles, physician bios, etc.)?
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 8:20 pm I don’t have much to offer here based on my own professional experience (I am not a freelance writer), but is there any chance the NDAs cover only the actual content itself and not that you wrote it at all? It’d be interesting to look into, for example, how ghost writers (which I guess essentially you are) do their résumés. I don’t know how reputable this site is, but Ghost Write Pro recommends building in a résumé agreement. If that’s not already in the language of the NDA, can you ask to have that amended?
MsChanandlerBong* January 1, 2016 at 8:46 pm With these particular clients, I can’t tell anyone I wrote the content. That includes giving someone the link and saying I wrote it or saving the content and sharing it with someone as a PDF or Word file. The resume clause is something I can do going forward, so thanks for the suggestion.
BuildMeUp* January 1, 2016 at 9:08 pm The résumé agreement that Anonymous Educator mentioned is a great idea! I think the way you have it listed should work, as long as you include something that explains why you’re not listing company names, unless this is very common in the industries you work in and you’re sure anyone reading your resume will know why you’re doing it.
MsChanandlerBong* January 2, 2016 at 7:07 pm Thanks! I will include a note in my introductory email (I’m not applying for full-time positions; I’m sending letters of introduction/interest to marketing firms that concentrate specifically on medical and legal marketing). It’s just a pain. Right now, for example, I’m writing product descriptions for a well-known retailer (if I said the name, pretty much everyone would recognize it). It would look great on my resume to say that I’ve written hundreds of product descriptions for this company. Unfortunately, they didn’t hire me directly. I do the work through a third-party company, and the terms of service specifically state that I can’t reveal any client names or use the work I do in my portfolio/as project samples.
Dynamic Beige* January 2, 2016 at 8:16 pm This may not help but someone I know writes speeches for corporate executives. She is not allowed to say that she wrote for ThisExec or ThatExec but on her website, she says that she has worked with many high level people, that she is not allowed to disclose who they are publicly, but if you want to sit down and meet with her over a cup of coffee, she would be willing to talk about it in person. Maybe something similar in a cover letter would help? “Since I began my freelance writing career 11 years ago, I have completed 134 profiles for people in these professions; been published X times as a ghostwriter in these journals. My clients value my discretion and I have signed contracts over the years where I am not publicly allowed to divulge who I have written for, but if you were willing to meet with me, I could provide you with samples of my work… etc.” Also, I have a similar problem in that most of my work is also confidential and as I work for agencies, I can’t use it in my portfolio — I can show it to someone in person, but putting it up on a website or sending samples around, can’t do it. I decided that the only way I was going to be able to show something was to make fake projects as a sample of what I could do so that I would have some portfolio pieces I could show and were all mine. You might want to do something similar, post samples of your writing style that aren’t connected to a project. I’m also working on a bunch of articles to turn into blog posts to put on a website, you might want to do something similar — build authority by writing about what you do, which also gives people insight into who you are.
MsChanandlerBong* January 3, 2016 at 7:37 pm Thanks so much for the suggestions! I am actually working on some samples from scratch so that I can put them on my website and share them freely with potential clients. I’m also putting up a new website right now, and on the past projects page, I’m going to write something like “Due to the non-disclosure agreements I have in place with my clients, each law firm name has been replaced by its location and a description of the services provided” or something like that.
RunnerGirl* January 1, 2016 at 6:34 pm Question for non-profit folks with national organizations: how is your development department structured at the organization’s headquarters? I recently started a senior level position at a non-profit with 25 state chapters, and I was surprised at how few development positions there are at the headquarters. But then again, I don’t really know what is considered typical. So I’m curious to hear how development departments are structured in other organizations?
Kimberlee, Esq* January 2, 2016 at 11:32 am At my old job (national nonprofit with no chapter system) there were around 25 employees, and there were like 3 specific fundraisers (not including the ED) and another 6 people who worked full-time in support of fundraising (writing, database, etc). At another organization I donate to (national nonprofit with chapters in many states), there is only one person doing any fundraising work (not including the ED), and she does both direct asks and a bunch of the admin and writing associated with fundraising. I think the reason is that nonprofits are terrified of reports and rankings and whatnot that care too deeply about what % of your money you spend on fundraising, and development salaries are like all fundraising. So theoretically a fundraiser is worth it if they earn at least their full salary in donations, but in total that might be really bad for the organization, increasing the amount of money it’s spending on fundraising without generating proportionate program spending. So, they might be gun-shy about over-hiring on fundraisers?
BRR* January 2, 2016 at 12:09 pm I know with one rather large nonprofit I had just interviewed with they had a moderate sized team at the national headquarters and it was mostly major gifts. Annual giving was done more at the regional level and they were working to coordinate it more between the regions so that appeals and thank yous were sent out at roughly the same tim to be more uniform in message. I’m know another national/regional org that has 75 development staff members at the national office that raises approximately $130 million annually.
De Minimis* January 2, 2016 at 5:44 pm Ours is similar, one full-time development person at the main office, and another couple of people who have development tasks mixed in their regular roles. We have a lot of federal grants but non-federal is still a really crucial part of our funding [with the goal to increase that over time so we will be less vulnerable to political winds] so the one development person is really busy. I’ve also seen the ED really bring in a lot of funding in the brief time I’ve been there.
Jascha* January 1, 2016 at 6:41 pm I think your instinct to identify the type of client rather than the name is good (much like saying “a 67-year-old male” instead of the name of the patient in medical writing). If you have room, perhaps you could include a line at the top, or at the bottom with asterisks after the clients, explaining that NDAs prevent you from naming the clients. If it were only one or two, I’d be inclined to suggest a list of “selected publications” that omitted them, but if it’s nearly all of your clients, you might risk leaving off too much of your work.
Wendy Darling* January 1, 2016 at 6:42 pm Can someone reassure me it’s okay not to do a phone interview while I’m on holiday? The recruiter has asked me three times now what my availability is this week, and I told her the first time we spoke that I would be traveling internationally and not available until late next week, but that hasn’t kept her from asking about this week two more times. If I REALLY knocked myself out about it I could take a call, so I am plagued by this nagging guilt that I’m not doing enough.
Audiophile* January 1, 2016 at 7:39 pm I think it’s fine to skip it. Unless you’re really jazzed about this and think this recruiter might disappear if you put her off any longer. You did tell her you’d be traveling and be unavailable, so I’m not sure why she keeps asking you about your availability.
Blue_eyes* January 2, 2016 at 1:22 pm It’s fine to not take a phone interview while you’re on vacation. You clearly stated your availability and she didn’t listen to it. Unless you really really want this job, just don’t respond to her until you get back.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 4:14 pm As a hiring manager, I wouldn’t be rejecting a candidate for not being available for a phone interview during this week.
PinkTeapots* January 1, 2016 at 7:10 pm I know it’s a little late in the day, but I just wanted to thank everyone for their advice last week. I gave my boss my notice! He did try to counter offer, but I told him that I was firm on my decision. Like I said last week, the new position is in my field, a great step for my career, and a 30% increase. I did give a four week notice so he was very appreciative of that. Then the next day, he came back and said I was making a great decision for myself and that while he didn’t want to lose me, the best part of being a manager is getting to watch his people succeed, whether here or somewhere else. Additionally, I’m going to be helping interviewing for my replacement and if time allows, train them as well, which I’m very excited about. Thanks again to everyone for helping me with my giving notice anxiety!
Seasonal Downer* January 1, 2016 at 7:15 pm This festive season has felt rough and I don’t know why. I haven’t done anything different tradition-wise, I have a great family and job but something’s not right. Maybe I just need more sunlight or something.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 11:30 pm It could be the weather. It’s been really super weird. We had 60s and 70s right up until Christmas Day and I have never in all my born days seen that and it’s just strange. This El Niño is a bad one.
StillHealing* January 3, 2016 at 6:07 am My son had a tough Christmas for several reasons. One of his best friends’ Dad died on Christmas day. He was only 55. My Ex didn’t even call our son on Christmas so I sent ex a warning email that it’s his responsibility to reach out and nurture their relationship. Ex has since called called son a couple times this past week. Seasonal Downer, Get in for a checkup with your doctor. Trust your gut when something feels off. It could be a variety of things, low vitamin D, thyroid, etc.
Not Gloria, A.A., B.S.* January 1, 2016 at 7:20 pm I’m starting my own business soon. Anyone have advice?
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 7:43 pm Don’t start it with a partner. Make it your business and contract out or hire as you get bigger or need specialized labor.
NJ Anon* January 2, 2016 at 8:24 am Be prepared for the amount of time you have to devote to it. I started a business while still working a full-time job. It takes a lot of work! But it is satisfying when you have victories no matter how small!
Katie the Fed* January 1, 2016 at 7:54 pm So, we had a party. It was a very nice party and everyone had a great time. But – so many people showed up with food – cookies, desserts, cakes, etc. I already had put out a really nice spread and we ended up with almost as much food as we started with. It was a pain to put away and I’ll bring a lot to work to give out. Is there a polite way to tell people to not bring anything? Wine is nice – I can at least keep that or drink it myself at some point. But food is really hard to do something with.
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 8:04 pm Hm. That’s odd. I’m assuming you already said that on your invitation or electronic RSVP? Did people just ignore that? Usually if people say “Please don’t bring food. Your presence is all we want at the party. If you absolutely must bring something, a bottle of wine,” I take heed, and I don’t think I’ve been to parties like that have been total disasters on the people-ignoring-instructions front.
Katie the Fed* January 1, 2016 at 8:10 pm I didn’t say anything – just that we’re having a party and we’d love to see you. I think this is the trend of more or more parties being potlucks. But I’m traditional like that – if I’m hosting, I want to provide the food. I appreciate the gesture, but I’d really rather not have to find room for extra food and have to deal with leftovers.
Anonymous Educator* January 1, 2016 at 8:15 pm Yeah, unfortunately, it’s getting so you may have to be explicit about it. I honestly wouldn’t even mention the wine, then. Something like “We’re having a party! We’d love to see you. Please do not bring any food or drinks—we are hosting. Just bring your lovely selves, which is all we want to see!”
danr* January 1, 2016 at 8:05 pm Tell folks that they can bring dessert or wine … but give them a reasonable number to bring for, say about half the number of people coming. And you can ask for stuff that’s easy to serve. Then cross your fingers. :)=
Katie the Fed* January 1, 2016 at 8:11 pm but I don’t want them to bring dessert! I had lots of delicious options!
Tris Prior* January 1, 2016 at 8:25 pm Hmmm, not sure if this is a regional thing or just that all our friends are broke artists – but we and our friends always, always bring food and drink if we are invited to a party, to help share the expense (and, well, artists never turn down free food, haha.) I would need to be specifically told not to, in order to feel okay about showing up empty-handed. Hell, we got randomly invited over to our neighbors this afternoon because they were cooking a late new year’s brunch and I was running around the house putting together something food-ish that I could bring on no notice. As for how to tell people, I’d be fine with just “We’ve got the food covered, no need to bring anything!)
Katie the Fed* January 1, 2016 at 8:55 pm I’ll try that. I never show up to anyone’s house empty-handed, but it’s usually something like wine, flowers, some homemade jam, or something that they don’t have to serve. It worked out ok though – I sent a bunch of leftovers to a friend who just had a baby.
Dynamic Beige* January 2, 2016 at 8:19 pm Me too. I usually just bring wine because if they don’t drink it that night, it keeps and can be regifted. All I can say is at least people showed up. When I’ve had parties in the past, I’ve done what you’ve done, gone above and beyond to get all the food etc. and then not even half showed up, leaving me with a ton of stuff.
Today's anon* January 2, 2016 at 8:28 am Did the people ask you if they could bring anything? That is usually what I do. I ask the host if they want me to bring anything, if yes, then I bring it, if not, I try to bring a host gift (usually flowers). I don’t drink, so sometimes I will ask if I can bring a non-alcoholic beverage if it’s someone I know well who I know will have a lot of alcohol and nothing non-alcoholic. If they didn’t ask and just brought things, I think that’s weird.
Mando Diao* January 3, 2016 at 2:39 am Dinner party etiquette has all but disappeared in the past decade. Your friends thought your party was a potluck because everyone else hosts potlucks these days. Next year, specify that it’s not a potluck.
Katie the Fed* January 3, 2016 at 9:00 am Yes! We were invited to a friend’s holiday party a few weeks ago and the day before, he sent out an email to everyone asking them to bring a dish to share. WTF!
Computer Guy Eli* January 1, 2016 at 8:15 pm I’m very angry. Without going into too much detail, there was an event that happened yesterday at work where someone’s life was endangered and security was in charge of handling the situation. It was during shift change, so I came on right in the middle of it. When I walked into the office, not only did I see my coworkers not following procedure, they were practically cowering in the corner(Think that scene in saving Private Ryan with the guy and the stairs). I was able to get everything under control, but now I’m harboring some seething anger towards those two. How can I continue to work with them when they’ve done something I think is horrendous?
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 9:38 pm The first thing I would consider, “Is it mandatory that I report what I saw/walked in on?” Yes, then problem solved. No, then “Should I report it?” If yes, then problem solved. If no, then “Can I discuss it with the boss and ask how to proceed?” It seems that you might not be able to discuss it with them because of seething anger. However, you may have already made your point and you may not have to discuss it with them. It’s been my experience that when I catch people and call them out they never do that particular thing in front of me again. One calming tool I have used is to ask myself, “And this effects me, personally, HOW?” If it effects my personal safety and well-being then off to the boss I go. Usually the answer is it only effects me professionally because I have to work with these people and I don’t want to. At all. I need to eat, they need to eat. We have that in common. I cut them a wide berth, avoid them as much as possible and keep going.
Computer Guy Eli* January 1, 2016 at 10:04 pm I did report it to my boss and she said she’d talk to them about it, but I don’t think she understood how serious it was. I should also mention I’m not annoyed I had to deal with it, I’m disgusted with how they completely broke under pressure when our only important job is to be emergency dispatchers.
LizB* January 1, 2016 at 10:10 pm I’m a little confused — were the coworkers you saw part of the security team, so they should have been handling the situation, but were hiding instead? If that’s the case, I think you need to bring up what you saw with your boss, because their reaction indicates that at the very least they need some more training, and possibly need to be in a different position. I’ve worked in a job where I had to handle life-or-death safety issues and had a coworker who would freeze up and do nothing in those situations. Management ended up having to schedule extra workers to cover every shift that coworker was on, because she was absolutely useless in a crisis, and eventually she was let go. I can sympathize with being terrified in a terrifying situation, but if you can’t learn to overcome that reaction and do what needs to be done, you’re just making the situation less safe for everyone. Those coworkers either need to be coached until they can handle their duties, or not be on the security team.
Computer Guy Eli* January 1, 2016 at 10:24 pm Yes, they were the two newest members of ‘my’ security team. They had been drilled on emergency procedures about as hard as I have but they just couldn’t execute correctly in a real world emergency. They’re probably just going to get some more training and then this exact situation will happen again in the future and that ticks me off. Since we’re a contracted outfit, it’s also possible that I could lose my job over this scene. I’ve told my boss, but it’s still an outrageous event.
LizB* January 2, 2016 at 11:43 am Yikes. I know from experience that it can be difficult to put your training into action in a stressful situation, and I’ve screwed up pretty badly on that front, but they absolutely need to learn from that experience and do better next time. I feel like someone needs to talk through with them how they should have responded differently and why they froze up, and instead of being on shift together they should each be scheduled with more experienced people for the foreseeable future so they have a model of the right thing to do and can gain confidence that the procedures will keep them and everyone else safe if they’re followed correctly. I don’t blame you for being furious and not wanting to work with them, though — if they won’t shape up and do the job, that’s a serious safety problem for you.
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 9:00 pm It’s a serious safety issue for anyone who works with them. And if you are contracted by the company, it could be that your company would be in breach of contract. These are your two talking points. I’d keep going until I found someone who would listen, because it is a BFD. “Boss, I was wondering what I can expect from New Hires A and B. I believe that if X happens it could cost me my job. I am not willing to take that risk. Additionally, our company could be in trouble because we agreed contractually to provide Y service. So I should think that our company would be concerned here, too. I wanted to touch base with you to find out what to do if I encounter this situation again. And I want to make this formally part of the record with you* if something does go wrong, I want it noted that I expressed concern.” *I have done this, I told the boss I was speaking formally on the record so if something did go wrong, it’s noted that I did my part in reporting the concern. What happened next was the boss actually paid attention to what I was saying.
Cruciatus* January 1, 2016 at 9:03 pm Wahoo! The Sherlock special is about to begin airing here in the U.S.! Anyone else watching? It’s not sad that this is how I’m spending my final Friday night after Christmas vacation, right?
Doriana Gray* January 1, 2016 at 10:43 pm Not sad at all. TV is of the good. I’m marathoning The West Wing for the fiftieth millionth time myself.
Jessica (tc)* January 1, 2016 at 11:22 pm Our local theater will be showing it in a couple of days, so I’m holding out for that on the big screen. I’m pretty excited that they’re doing it!
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 11:34 pm I watched it. I thought it was pretty good. Somebody is starting to show his age a bit.
ginger ale for all* January 2, 2016 at 1:39 am I watched it and was disappointed in it. I was just lost trying to follow the whole thing. The time jumping back and forth was eye rolling for me.
katamia* January 2, 2016 at 5:48 am I’ve been sick for the past few days and missed it. :( It looks like PBS has it available to stream, though, so I’ll check that out later.
Be the Change* January 3, 2016 at 4:45 am If I had my way, I’d totally have been watching Sherlock right along with you. Hope you enjoyed it!
dear liza dear liza* January 1, 2016 at 9:18 pm Laundry experts! I visited a friend for a few days and the potpourri of her house smell permeated my clothes unlike anything I’ve ever experienced. I didn’t notice the scent while I was there but when I returned home, my partner- who is viciously allergic to all chemical scents- stopped me 5 feet away because his eyes were watering. After I showered, I could smell it. We immediately washed all the clothes I’d brought, but they still retained the smell. We did a heavy duty cycle (all of these with an unscented detergent). Still smell. After FOUR washes, I then soaked everything in warm water with baking soda for 12 hours. Still smell. I’m soaking AGAIN with the baking soda. My other thoughts are a vinegar rinse, and then maybe an enzyme killer like Nature’s Miracle? Other thoughts?
Not So NewReader* January 1, 2016 at 9:46 pm I would let them soak in just vinegar and water for hours and hours. If that does not work, it might be the detergent is leaving a residue that is holding the scent on the clothes. My next guesses would be a natural laundry soap (as opposed to a laundry detergent) or perhaps some liquid glycerin. What you want is to use something that makes the water slippery feeling. This would cause the molecules to let go of the materials.
Nicole* January 2, 2016 at 8:52 am My first thought reading this was to use vinegar. I hope that works!
LCL* January 2, 2016 at 11:20 am Something I learned from this site, seriously, is to use vinegar as a rinse in the fabric softener part of the cycle. Clothes don’t smell like mildew anymore, neither does the washer. forget the baking soda, it doesn’t do much as a laundry soak.
Schnapps* January 2, 2016 at 11:32 pm Ok, so laundry scents – ugh. So awful they add that stuff. Anyways, those residues can stay for ages. If you can, wash your clothes on a hot cycle with washing soda (Nellie’s is wonderful); put vinegar in the fabric softener cup/container and let it go. Then rinse it on a full hot cycle (you can add more vinegar if you want). During the hot rinse, open the top of the washer or peek through the window on the front if its a front-load and see if it’s still foaming. If it is, you’ll have to do another hot rinse cycle. Repeat until all the foaming is gone, then dry as normal (or hang dry if you’re worried about shrinkage).
Valar M.* January 3, 2016 at 12:18 pm I have the same problem. Did you wash it on hot? I wash it on a hot sanitize cycle with unscented detergent and that always gets the potpourri smell out for me.
Soupspoon McGee* January 3, 2016 at 3:04 pm Add borax to your next wash, on warm water, then do a vinegar rinse. I find borax gets out the most obnoxious smells, but it may take a couple of cycles.
Lionness* January 1, 2016 at 10:05 pm So my very dear friend was just offered her dream job…all the way across the country. I don’t have a lot of friends and she is by far my best. I’m so freaking excited for her because this is everything she’s been working for. But also? I’m really, really sad.
Computer Guy Eli* January 1, 2016 at 10:28 pm I know that feeling bro/brodette. I don’t have any advice though.
Ruffingit* January 1, 2016 at 11:10 pm I moved halfway across the country from my bestie 13 years ago. We’re still going strong though, just got off the phone with her after an hour-long phone call :) I know it’s hard, but Skype, phone, email, and Facebook are big helps.
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 11:37 pm Awww. *hug* Like Ruffingit said, you can Skype and everything. Is she moving somewhere cool? You can go visit. :)
Mina* January 2, 2016 at 2:17 pm I have a close friend in a different state – 10 hours by car. We have a monthly video chat scheduled (every four weeks) for a couple of hours. It’s been a really great fit us, and it feels like we’re as close as ever. Another friend who lives even further away shares a passion for a crappy TV show – whenever it’s on, once a week we make time to call and sync-watch it (hit play at the same time). The rest of the year we have phone calls about once a month, but it’s been fun to share that experience of watching crappy tv with her.
nicolefromqueens* January 1, 2016 at 10:26 pm Twilight Zone marathon! I Sing the Body Electric is next, one of my favorites!
Elizabeth West* January 1, 2016 at 11:38 pm I don’t have cable anymore–that’s one thing I’ll miss is the TZ marathons. Though I did find out that Hulu Plus has ALL the episodes of Hey, Arnold! So I had a mini-marathon this morning, hahahah. :) I had completely forgotten about the Stoop Kid episode.
Rebecca* January 2, 2016 at 7:51 am I found The Twilight Zone on Netflix streaming! I don’t know if all the episodes are there, but I lost a few hours the other night hopping back and forth in the queue looking for certain episodes.
Wicked* January 1, 2016 at 10:35 pm So it’s my understanding that no state or federal law defines what “full time” versus “part time” employment is. I live in Arizona, which is a right to work state, and I was told that, although I have been with my current company for four years, 3 as a full time employee, I can be demoted to part time at the will of the employer. (My company was a franchise that was just repurchased by the parent corporation, so we’re essentially small fish being dumped into a huge pond). I believe that the argument that will be made is that the corporate company has no full time employees who aren’t management, whereas the franchise did (though not many). I fought really hard for my FT and put up with a host of issues, including being sexually harassed by one of the managers. Is there anything I can do to protect my status? If I am transferred to another store I was told they “might not be able to afford another full time employee”, but I know (for various reasons) that the other store has more than enough payroll to bring me on as full time. Anything anyone can think of to help my defense would be greatly appreciated.
Ruffingit* January 1, 2016 at 11:08 pm Honestly, I don’t know that this is worth the fight. These people are going to do what they’re going to do and they are, as far as I know, legally allowed to do so. Whether or not they have enough payroll to bring on another FT employee, they don’t have to and I don’t think there’s anything you can do to make them do it. Were I in your shoes, I would start looking for another gig. You’ve been there 4 years, it’s a good time to make a move anyway.
Katie the Fed* January 2, 2016 at 9:09 am You don’t get to rack up bonus points by putting up with sexual harassment. You need to address it when it’s happening so you can be protected from further harassment and retaliation.
CC* January 1, 2016 at 11:38 pm I’ve worked at a few places now that say they prefer to get inexperienced people and train them rather than getting experienced people. Cheaper when you look at the hourly rate, so I can see the first-glance appeal, though of course probably not cheaper overall. The most recent one added that people with experience do poorly and people with no experience do the best, so I should look for low-experience hires when reviewing resumes. Then I realized that each of the places that said that did things in a non-standard way, and I have had to fight to get (among other things) people to put things on the file server at all, a reasonably systematic setup for a number of things that should be systematic, and the use of established standards. So… this makes me wonder if they’re all so far from a reasonable standard that people who know those standards are confused, and how badly that’s going to mess me up since my jobs have basically all been in places like this. (I have read up on the standards, and I have tried to implement the standards, and I have had some success in getting other people at work to use them mainly by setting up a good template that they work from.)
Rubyrose* January 1, 2016 at 11:59 pm Quote from a developer (a contractor) I worked with a while back, when discussing standards and coding systems for the short run or long run: “you can pay me now, or pay me more later.” The companies you are describing, while probably not realizing it, will be paying more later with their approach. Yes, working for these places will mess you up. More progressive companies, in interviewing you, will be more leery of you because they realize it will take more time to get you up to speed. There will also be concerns about your ability and/or willingness to work in a more structured environment. Keep reading those standards and even if you cannot get them implemented, know them well enough so you can speak to them in interviews. Do you best to not let potential companies know how backward your past firms were.
CC* January 2, 2016 at 1:34 am Yes, I’ve also pushed for more planning ahead. Usually by saying stuff like my experience has been that every hour spent planning at the beginning saves 10 hours of chasing problems at the end. (I know it’s possible to spend too much time planning, but that hasn’t been the issue at my previous jobs.) The bosses don’t always listen. Sometimes I spent the time planning anyway and my boss may have thought I had slightly lower productivity but the construction manager commented that the design was more complete and with fewer problems than usual.
Anonymous Educator* January 2, 2016 at 12:55 am I’ve worked at a few places now that say they prefer to get inexperienced people and train them rather than getting experienced people. Cheaper when you look at the hourly rate, so I can see the first-glance appeal, though of course probably not cheaper overall. The most recent one added that people with experience do poorly and people with no experience do the best, so I should look for low-experience hires when reviewing resumes. They’re looking for low experience and not no experience, right? If that’s the case, I can understand it. I work in education, and generally, for teacher hires, the sweet spot is 3-5 years’ experience. It’s enough experience that the teacher isn’t totally green, but the teacher also is less likely to be set in her ways and, yes, may likely cost less to hire. That said, there are always exceptions. Sometimes you want to hire essentially an intern-type teacher with no experience (straight out of university). Other times, you want to balance out your department and have a few seasoned veterans or a department chair (who should preferably have more than 5 years’ teaching experience). I can’t imagine that education is the only field that such is the case. Now if your workplace hires no-experience regularly or hires only low-experience, that’s alarming and will cost them in the long run. Then I realized that each of the places that said that did things in a non-standard way, and I have had to fight to get (among other things) people to put things on the file server at all, a reasonably systematic setup for a number of things that should be systematic, and the use of established standards. Every place I’ve worked has done things in non-standard ways in several ways, all different from each other. I’ve never worked at a large organization, though, so it’s generally been “this is how we’ve always done it,” and I’ve just had to pick my battles and change what I can to streamline things or get the organization in line with best practice. So… this makes me wonder if they’re all so far from a reasonable standard that people who know those standards are confused, and how badly that’s going to mess me up since my jobs have basically all been in places like this. (I have read up on the standards, and I have tried to implement the standards, and I have had some success in getting other people at work to use them mainly by setting up a good template that they work from.) I think it won’t mess you up too badly. As I said before, I’ve worked almost exclusively at such places, and I’ve been able to adjust. Of course, I’ve never stayed any one place more than 5 years. If you are at a single workplace for 15-20 years or more, it can be easy to lose perspective on what’s reasonable.
CC* January 2, 2016 at 1:44 am Low vs. no… it varies. None at all has been desired in some cases, and not always in an internship situation. The first time I was told this, I was a straight out of university hire, so I was happy that it worked out for me. Yes, current job has some alarming things and some unpleasant things and I am job hunting (with no luck so far).
Computer Guy Eli* January 2, 2016 at 12:08 am Whoever was talking about fountain pens in one of the last threads, you’ve successfully gotten me hooked! Reports are almost fun now.
SL #2* January 2, 2016 at 12:21 am FINALLY saw Star Wars! Will not be posting spoilers, but I thought it was excellent and a strong nod to the original trilogy. So glad to have finally seen it!
StillHealing* January 2, 2016 at 6:59 am My son and I saw it late Christmas day. It certainly left me wanting more! The female lead, Rey, is an incredible actress. I love the tough, smart, character she portrays.
Raia* January 2, 2016 at 12:27 am So, I’ve been posting as a constant job-seeker for the past 8 months, and I am so glad to finally say that I have landed my first big kid full time job, with benefits, starting Feb. 1. The ways that Alison and AAM community have contributed to this achievement in my life is incredible. I am excited to see my career arc starting at a higher level than I really thought I was worth, because I can see a horizon where my student loans can be paid off in around 5 years if I’m aggressive and diligent. To God be the glory! And a huge thank you to all of you! I am wondering though, when I start jobs there is always this period where I feel like such an underdog. Last year it was about 4-6 months before I finally settled in for two separate jobs, and with NewJob being my first FT, I bet it will happen again unless I actively prepare. Especially since NewJob is in New Industry, I’ll have to improve on working knowledge and experience every day I come home from work for a while… Any advice to not be so submissive, and instead interact with people like I’m a competent hire?
Anonymous Educator* January 2, 2016 at 12:58 am Are you talking about imposter syndrome? I wish I had a magic bullet for that. I work in tech (and have for the past few years), but I have absolutely no official training in it, so I’ve always felt, as you “like such an underdog.” I say just fake it ’til you make it. Show confidence, even if you don’t have it inside, and work as hard as you can to keep up and then excel. I don’t mean pretend to know what you don’t know, but pretend to be confident in what you do know, even if you’re not sure if that’s good enough (hint: it probably is more than good enough).
newreader* January 2, 2016 at 7:06 am Agreed. I’ve worked for the same employer for almost 30 years, but have switched offices and roles several times, with the most recent change about 6 months ago. Even though I’d been with th employer for so long, there were aspects of the new job and department that were new to me, since the previous roles were so different. I used to feel so dumb initially, now give myself 6-12 months to really fully understand a new role. Be confident in what you do know and be open to learning what you don’t yet know – whether that’s a skill or a company culture. Your boss and coworkers don’t want a know-it-all, they want a pleasant, knowledgable coworker that will help them get the work done. Over time, you’ll have the opportunity to prove your worth. That never happens immediately.
Anonymous Educator* January 2, 2016 at 12:59 am I have landed my first big kid full time job P.S. I don’t know how old you are, but if you’re in your early or mid 20s, to a certain extent, it may not matter how much of a competent hire you appear to be—it’s highly likely you’ll have condescending co-workers who just think of you as a kid.
Former Diet Coke Addict* January 2, 2016 at 9:53 am This is a classic Fake It Til You Make it situation. Don’t think of yourself as a kid–think of yourself as a competent hire, which you are. After all, they wouldn’t have hired you if they didn’t think you could do the job! So reframe your thinking of yourself as not “a kid who landed a great job,” but “a professional at the beginning of her career.” Look people in the eye, shake hands firmly, try to avoid being soft-spoken and beginning sentences with “Sorry….” or “Um……..” or anything else that makes you sound vague or unclear. Be declarative. Observer the culture of the office around you. There will almost certainly be people who will be condescending to you thanks to your age, but nothing to be done about that–treat everyone around you like colleagues, not like Important Adults. You may want to step up your dress and personal styling, if that’s something you’re interested in. That can go a long way towards feeling like less of an impostor-kid and more of an adult. Like putting on your Going To Work costume.
Observer* January 2, 2016 at 6:34 pm One thing that is HUGE is your own attitude. One general thing is to be open to reasonable criticism. You are new, and you’ll make mistakes. And, people, especially your boss and direct co-workers are going to comment. Take it with grace. AND realize that if you are in a reasonable workplace, it’s not the end of the world. The other thing is to think of yourself as a competent adult. NEVER think of yourself (even in your own head) as a “kid”, even a “big kid”. If you see yourself as an adult, you act and carry yourself differently and people respond to that.
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 9:17 pm I had a job in a new-to-me arena. It was something I never saw before with all the different ways it demanded things of me. I thought if I last six months it will be amazing. I lasted many years. I did two things that helped. One was I would make myself think through routine tasks while I was not at work. So driving home or getting ready in the morning I would say to myself, “I want to review the process for all Xs. Okay, step 1 is _____, step 2 is ___ [ and so on, I would try to envision each step of process x as best I could.] Then I would review another task or process all by picturing it in my head. The second thing I did was I never left work with out making a list of things to start with the next morning. This one saved my life. Learn people names. Bare bones learn their first names and one thing about them. Just knowing some names of those around you can be very comforting/calming. And it makes you look sharp.
Jessen* January 2, 2016 at 12:50 am So is there such a thing as too bland for interview wear? I’ve been reviewing my set – black pants, black jacket, blue patterned top, plain silver rope necklace, simple silver hoops, neutral pink-beige nail polish, neutral gold eyeshadow and lipstick. It’s a bit boring…
Clever Name* January 2, 2016 at 1:30 am I’m a big believer in wearing what makes you feel good. If you feel it’s boring, feel free to liven it up. If an interviewer downgrades you because you wore daisy earrings or pink lipstick or a pocket square or your tie was too skinny or whatever, that place wouldn’t be a good fit for you.
Jessen* January 3, 2016 at 12:04 am Sadly I’m not sure I’m really in a position to be judging fit. At this point I’m just looking for something, anything, that’s a step up from retail. Anything full time with benefits that doesn’t have me cleaning toilets, pretty much.
AnotherTeacher* January 2, 2016 at 7:50 am I think the answer could be dependent on your field and the balance of your overall look. Some people already have unique hairstyles or physical features, so an appropriate or “bland” interview outfit balances that. Is the pattern of your top interesting? Could you exchange it with a more interesting one? How about a scarf instead of the necklace?
Jessen* January 2, 2016 at 10:52 am The only thing I’ve really found remarkable about me is that I tend to look like a teenager. Which I suppose contributes to the blandness – I feel like adding more interesting stuff often contributes to the perception that I’m much younger.
Colette* January 2, 2016 at 9:54 am Ideally, interview wear should be unremarkable. You want them to focus on your skills, not your looks. That doesn’t mean you can’t show any personality – you can, especially if it will help you feel comfortable – but you don’t want to put the focus on your outfit.
Timssphere* January 2, 2016 at 1:27 am Does anyone have any firsthand experience with the work activity requirements to receive public assistance? I’ve seen some accounts that the government essentially “voluntells” aid recipients to menial work that doesn’t build skills or otherwise increase the chances of future employment. I have documented disabilities, so I can try to seek a waiver, but I don’t want to do that if the work activities are actually useful.
Rubyrose* January 2, 2016 at 1:40 pm Sorry, I don’t have the answer to your question. I suspect, though, that they may vary by state. I understand not wanting to do menial work. But is your work history such that being able to show that you can hold down a job, even a menial one, be a good thing? There is something to be said for proving you are dependable. Given that you have disabilities and want to build skills, have you given Vocational Rehab a try? I’m speaking from the experience of actually being on disability for 5 years and having to navigate how to get back into the workplace.
Observer* January 2, 2016 at 6:57 pm Depending on where you are, it may not be so easy to get a waiver even if you have disabilities :( Some workfare type programs are better than others. Again, it depends on where you live. In New York City, for instance, if you are not in school or in a training program, the workfare program probably won’t do any good for your career, but the job placement programs are sometimes useful. Even that is very mixed bag, with some of them being good, and others being pretty useless or worse.
Jane* January 2, 2016 at 1:45 am My hope for this year is to find full time work. My overall lack of experience and poor career choices has been causing me a lot of grief the last several years and I am tired of being the child left behind. I finished my BComm degree during 2009 when we were in the middle of the economic storm. I ended up being unemployed for about 8 months so during that time I ended up doing some volunteering work until I landed an internship unrelated to my field. The internship at the time was suppose to be a foot in the door so I worked my way into a full time position but unfortunately life happened. I wasn’t able to move anywhere and I ended up staying stuck in the same position for 4 years. The work environment took a toxic turn so I decided to leave as it was affecting me. I ended up traveling for a bit and did a bit more studying. It was a bit difficult getting back into full time work so I took a part time retail job. Unfortunately with that environment it also wasn’t very healthy with an average of 2-3 people leaving every month. It took a toll on me so I ended up making the difficult decision to leave as I felt it wasn’t helping me to build a career. I am back at square one and hoping to start the year new. I haven’t made very good career choices so I am not sure where to go from here. I have been doing continuing studies courses but with this economy so is everyone else in an attempt to get an edge. I am also looking into volunteer work too but needless to say its been a lot of hard lessons that had to be learned. Confidence levels took a major nose dive too. Any ideas on how to redirect or find a career?
Elizabeth West* January 2, 2016 at 12:07 pm What are you interested in doing? I’d sit down and try to think of different things you can do with your degree, or what skills you excel at and go from there. The Bureau of Labor has an occupational handbook that can tell you about different jobs, should you be interested in going in another direction or need guidance. http://www.bls.gov/ooh/
Jane* January 2, 2016 at 6:08 pm I majored in Marketing Management and I minored in Law. When I was choosing what to study at the time, I asked my guidance counsellor and she wasn’t very helpful. The trouble with marketing is that, it seems like its very experience based. When I left school back in 2009 everyone had trouble getting a job because they lacked experience and to get experience you need a job. It was also a time when companies were doing cutbacks so there was a lack of internships hence the unemployment gap. I have been doing a skills assessment and it seems like I am a bit outdated in the tech department so I am trying to do some online free courses. I want to continue to study but in order to do that I need the funds. Although I have some savings I want to be sure. The question is, can you ever be sure?
Doriana Gray* January 2, 2016 at 6:42 pm I know a lot of people with your background who either went into insurance claims or risk management, and they love the careers they fell into. Maybe take a look into those fields and see if they sound like something you’d enjoy and somewhere you’d get to use your educational experience.
Jane* January 2, 2016 at 8:20 pm I did some work in the AML (anti-money laundering) area in my first job out of school. That was actually why I left because I wanted to do something else that allowed me to be a bit more creative. I have been applying to a variety of things from marketing assistant jobs to administrative assistants but a part of me wonders if I had missed my boat. There seems to be an immense pressure to have ones career figured out in their 20s so you can start building it and start having a life but at the same time, I know quite a bit of people in the 30s who are stuck. I took my risks when I left a job to go travel and study the first time around and the second time around its another risk but I am not sure how to explain to an employer why I left my retail job. My initial thoughts are that, I am not being challenged and I need to realign my career goals which is true but I am not sure how hiring managers look at it. I didn’t want to spend another minute doing something that didn’t nourish me and I am fortunate enough to be able to leave without worrying financially. However, I am not sure if that would come across as being an entitled millennial. I had thought about trying visual merchandising but working for the past year it seems like its really not me. How forgiving can a manager be for someone who made some bad career choices and who is trying to refocus?
Doriana Gray* January 3, 2016 at 3:43 am Why don’t you get a job that pays well and do something creative on your own time? I’m a 2009 Global Journalism graduate and, like you, took a job not remotely in my field almost a full year after graduating from college. During my lengthy job search, I wrote short stories, screenplays, and went on acting auditions. And once I finally got a “real job,” I continued doing those things (and published some books) because that’s where my passion truly lies – but those passions were also going to result in my inevitable homelessness. Stop thinking your day job is supposed to be fulfilling – for many people, it’s not. For many people, a day job affords them a roof over their heads, clothes on their back, food on their table and, if they’re lucky, disposable income to go do the things they really want to do (e.g. shop, travel, make music, shoot short films, etc.). And while you may not have entirely missed the boat on a creative career for a day job, I’m not going to lie to you – it’s going to be damn hard to get into marketing now that you’re so far removed from school and have what sounds like no real practical experience in your field. You’re competing for jobs with people who have years of experience and comprehensive portfolios, not to mention new grads who have probably had internships at some prestigious firms. My advice is to find something you don’t hate that pays well and allows you to make your own fun on your own time.
Jane* January 3, 2016 at 4:52 pm I definitely appreciate the hard truths. I know that its going to be nearly impossible to break into marketing. I have been trying since 2009. While I would love to do something creative, I think it is finding something that I don’t hate thats going to be a hard one. I am reassessing what it is that I actually love. I did thought about doing a post graduate certificate in marketing but I am not sure how well that would sell in this day in age especially with the amount of MBAs everywhere. I wouldn’t mind pursuing MBA but I don’t think I can handle a 50K debt. So the question is do I do a containing ed certificate in brand management to keep my credentials relevant or do I try to do something totally different?
Jane* January 3, 2016 at 5:01 pm I did create a blog just to write for the sake of writing for fun and I have been taking French classes as well. Naturally I am not too sure how to rebound from this career derailment. Do I go and take whatever job I can get or do I make an active way to redirect myself? Sorry, its been a very confusing few years since I’ve left school.
Doriana Gray* January 3, 2016 at 8:38 pm Don’t pursue more schooling without a plan – seriously. Incurring debt with no way to pay it off will cripple you (I speak from experience here). I think what you need to do is sit down and try to figure out what transferable skills you have and then match them up with jobs in your area. If you were a marketing major, you presumably dealt with a lot of data and you have experience talking to people (and probably took public speaking classes) – have you considered a career as a business analyst? The ones in my field act as liaisons between IT and our divisions and are very well compensated for their work. You’re writing now and learning a language – have you considered travel writing or setting yourself up for a career as a translator? How about something in government? Definitely don’t just take any old job you come across – the goal is for you to find something you find at least somewhat interesting and that can potentially be a stepping stone to an actual long-term career. Think about why you majored in marketing, what part of it you particularly enjoyed, where you specifically excelled, and what industries could use your existing skills.
_ism_* January 2, 2016 at 3:00 am I’m the LW from the mean April Fool’s prank thread and a recent open thread, who lost my job, home, and then car. I’m still recovering from the car accident but I’m a lot better. You guys wanted an update and I’m not sure where to put it! My boyfriend got a flu virus and/or pneumonia from his family while I was recovering and I ended up having to take care of him. I went through pneumonia 10 years ago and I know it’s rough. My boyfriend’s a hippie of sorts and REFUSED to go to the doctor on some principle even though he has awesome health coverage. He also refused to eat food or drink water for almost a week. I had to get his mother involved, finally we got him to take antibiotics and I’m having to be unnaturally firm in forcing him to drink water and eat soup occasionally. He’s doing much better now too. However we still have the freeloaders. I’ve had a few serious talks with him and he agrees he needs to call a house meeting but won’t take the initiative. The problem is that the freeloader has a teenage son, who would have to go into foster care if his father is kicked out onto the street. I am not prepared to deal with the fact a minor is involved and am having a lot of little battles with the tidiness level of these people. I am ashamed to admit I did something passive-aggressive with all the dishes I washed because nobody else washes them and they refuse when asked to pitch in, with lame excuses. I locked all the clean dishes in a safe! It speaks volumes about these guys and their level of squalor that they’ve somehow man aged to eat several meals on Things that are Not Dishes, and haven’t noticed the real dishes are gone. I even took all the can openers and such, so I have no idea how they are doing this. Some good news though…My insurance settlement worked out nicely for my totaled car and paid off my car loan completely and cut me a small check too, which is good. I was afraid I would end up with an upside down car loan (really terrible expression, BTW).
misspiggy* January 2, 2016 at 9:18 am Hooray about your car. You are awesome for taking on your boyfriend’s challenges with your own health so damaged – I hope the pain is getting better. Your boyfriend took a very big risk with his life and I hope he’s aware of that on some level. I hope you can take time and space to focus on looking after yourself soon, and I hope 2016 brings lots of good opportunities your way.
Elizabeth West* January 2, 2016 at 12:09 pm My wish for your 2016 is that your boyfriend will grow a spine and deal with his so-called friend. I’m glad both of you are feeling better and that the car thing worked out.
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 9:34 pm Inch by inch. Am glad to see you have retained some humor. Putting the clean dishes in the safe is very funny. I am not surprised they did not notice, though. Sigh. That is good news on the car insurance. And you are gaining a bit of ground on other things, not a lot, I know. Keep going, this is tough stuff. I feel bad for the minor child. Has dad applied for social services? If no, maybe he can get started on that as part of his moving out plan. He might be eligible for housing, etc.
_ism_* January 3, 2016 at 5:06 pm His dad refuses to do anything. He won’t apply for any kind of assistance or treatment for his mental illness, even when others encourage him and offer rides, help with paperwork, etc. He has no family besides his son. I don’t know him well enough or have the kind of relationship to try to be firm with him, but he & my boyfriend are lifelong friends. My BF just prefers to financially support this guy in every way and avoid conflict. He says he’s tried to get his friend to get help and stay on his meds and things like that, but the friend refuses, stops cooperating etc., and nobody holds him accountable. My boyfriend’s parents even supported this guy in their house for a few years. Everyone just throws up their hands and says “that’s how he is, someone has to take care of him.” I had no idea the true extent of this complicated situation before my boyfriend took me in.
Not So NewReader* January 3, 2016 at 5:48 pm Omg. Well, it looks like the BF comes with this project. I think do what you have to do to get back on your feet. Then start thinking about the BF with the friend and son. People in these circumstances, like your BF’s friend, usually require a team of people to take care of all that is going on. It does not even make sense to expect one person, such as your BF, to be able to do everything. These conversations to persuade your BF to change what he is doing, are going to take up a lot of time and energy. So I guess I would start with “where do I want to put the bulk of my energy right now?”. It is sad, because in a way your BF is preventing his friend from getting the very help he needs.
Mimmy* January 3, 2016 at 12:47 pm Glad to hear things are slowly getting better. I agree with Elizabeth above me – your boyfriend definitely needs to just bite the bullet and tell his friends to get their act together and start taking steps to find their own housing. I know it’s not so simple, but there are resources that can help them if it’s a perceived lack of options that is holding them back. (I don’t remember all the details from previous posts, so apologies if I missed important details). Good luck!
AnonAcademic* January 3, 2016 at 1:21 pm I am glad to hear about the car! Unfortunately I am not impressed with your boyfriend on the taking care of himself/your relationship front. I married a man who comes from a doctor-phobic family and as his relatives age the consequences of that just get nastier. He had a relative die recently because he chose not to get medical care for a serious injury which then got worse rapidly. You can’t care more about someone’s problems than they do without it leading to resentment and parentification in the long term. Just something to think about, because I feel like I dodged a huge bullet because my husband actually goes to the doctor (the dentist, on the other hand…).
Myrin* January 2, 2016 at 4:20 am Alison, I wanted to take the time to commend you on how you’re moderating this site. In yesterday’s office gift exchange thread, someone explained some rules about gift-giving and someone else left a seriously nasty comment on it (something like “wow get a life, loser”). That was when there weren’t more than ten or so comments yet and I was thinking whether I should comment myself (something like “That’s really uncalled for.”) but ultimately decided not to since you’ve said before not to engage with comments like this. I then refreshed the page and lo, you’d deleted the mean comment! And I really loved that because you didn’t reprimand the person, thus maybe giving them the opportunity to feel important, but just erased their presence here (man, dramatic wording, but I don’t know how else to say it). It also didn’t allow the comments to be sidetracked in response to the one mean person and I really, really appreciate that and seriously wish more sites were run like this!
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 2, 2016 at 11:52 am Thank you! It’s easy to handle it that way when I see it quickly and/or there aren’t a bunch of replies to it, although I also understand the impulse to reply.
fposte* January 2, 2016 at 1:26 pm I don’t have a great sense of what stuff will get yanked and what won’t. I figure if I post an objection you can always delete it along with the offending post (which I think has happened). But would you rather that offensive stuff was left alone, or maybe just flagged with Cosmic Avenger’s clever fake URL trick?
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 2, 2016 at 2:21 pm If it’s just a mean or hateful comment (“get a life” or making a gross comment about someone’s weight or whatever, or contributing nothing to the conversation but rudeness), I’ll delete it. If it’s someone being unkind but at least explaining their reasoning and attempting to truly communicate, I’ll leave it. So it’s a judgment call. And my tolerance probably isn’t 100% consistent. (I also don’t see everything, or see everything in time.) I do think it’s good for someone to respond, just so that the comment isn’t left hanging out there as if it’s okay, but ideally it would just be one response, not 10. That’s hard to pull off though, since people may all comment at once or not realize until refreshing the page that 7 people already said something. So, I’d say that in the cases of obviously offensive stuff (the sort of examples in my first parenthetical above), ideally people would leave it alone if they happen to see that it’s already been called out, but it’s not a huge deal if they don’t.
TL -* January 3, 2016 at 6:51 am Putting in a fake url sends to it moderation. So I might comment, Alison, the comment I’m replying to is extremely rude and put a fake link in it so it goes to moderation and age can see there’s a problem when she goes to check those comments.
katamia* January 2, 2016 at 4:38 am I’m going to start learning WordPress within the next few days (just teaching myself with books and web tutorials, nothing formal). Once I get past the basics, what are some good intermediate and advanced skills I should focus on? (Thinking along the lines of how, judging from other comments here, pivot tables in Excel are really important, what would be the equivalent of pivot tables for WordPress?) Also, if I’m applying for jobs that would require heavy use of WordPress, would it help me to have some sort of sample website? What absolutely needs to be on it? I really don’t want to start a “professional” blog–I’m mainly learning WP so I can get a writing blog set up, but because I write sometimes-gruesome horror, I don’t want it connected with my professional identity, especially since I have worked and may work again in education. I really don’t have the time, energy, or even just the inclination to do two separate blogs.
Product person* January 2, 2016 at 1:05 pm Knowing how to create a WP plug in (even simple ones) would drastically improve your marketability. If you find that too advanced from where you are now, I’d at least look into the most used themes and try to learn how to configure them (e.g., how to set up site menus, show/hide pages from menus, configure the site to use 2 vs. 3 columns and so on). Even if the companies you apply to aren’t using the same theme or framework, demonstrating you know how to make these configurations should help you stand out from the crowd. Good luck!
katamia* January 3, 2016 at 4:35 pm Thanks! I don’t think I’m there yet, but I’ll keep that in mind for when I know more.
Nobody* January 2, 2016 at 5:18 am I have one of those jobs where we don’t get holidays off, so I had to work yesterday. One of my coworkers sat in the break room for three hours watching a football game on his phone. We are paid hourly, and with holiday pay (2.5x our normal pay rate), he got 7.5 hours of pay to watch a football game. Management wasn’t there to see it, so he got away with it, but I’m kind of disgusted. I could understand if he wanted to check scores periodically from his desk, but he was doing no work at all for three whole hours.
ginger ale for all* January 2, 2016 at 8:03 am Did he produce less widgets per hour or something to that effect so that there would be a flag that a manager might see later on? I’m not saying to tattle on him but perhaps karma might be in the numbers or details for him. I’ve noticed that management has ways of seeing and correcting things over time.
Anonymous Educator* January 2, 2016 at 2:11 pm Is there something he was expected to do that he didn’t do? I think that’s a way to examine the situation. In other words, if your job is to answer phones, and he wasn’t answering phones but was in the break room instead, the main problem isn’t the break room or football game—the main problem is him not answering phones. It doesn’t have to be answering phones. It could be coding, writing a report, fixing a problem, returning emails… whatever he was expected to do. That said, if your job is essentially done (or there’s really not a lot going on on New Year’s Day), and he is required to work that day, I don’t see anything wrong with him watching the football game.
Nobody* January 2, 2016 at 7:57 pm There is always work to do. There are varying deadlines — some things have to be done today, some have to be done this week, some this month, etc. he didn’t skip out on anything that had be be done by the end of the day, but he should have been working on stuff that needs to be done this week or this month (I was — all day). The work he didn’t do during those three hours will eventually be distributed among everyone in the department. I can guarantee that if he called our manager and said, “I’m done with everything that needs to be done today. Is it ok if I spend the next three hours watching a football game?” the manager would say hell no and give him a long list of things to work on.
Anonymous Educator* January 3, 2016 at 3:48 pm he didn’t skip out on anything that had be be done by the end of the day, but he should have been working on stuff that needs to be done this week or this month (I was — all day). The work he didn’t do during those three hours will eventually be distributed among everyone in the department. Then that’s the real issue. It doesn’t matter if it was a football game or him picking his nose for three hours. If he should have been doing work, he should have been doing work. Since you’re not his supervisor, I probably wouldn’t bring it up to anybody unless it seems to be habitual (i.e., not a one-time deal).
Nobody* January 3, 2016 at 8:33 pm I’m not planning on tattling on him, but it bothers me in principle because I believe in doing an honest day’s work for an honest day’s pay. I don’t have a problem with him watching football per se — I would have been just as annoyed (and much more grossed out) if he had sat in the break room picking his nose for three hours — but that happens to be what he was doing instead of the work he should have done. He seemed to have the attitude that he was justified in not working for three hours because he considered it an important football game.
Sleepyhead* January 2, 2016 at 8:14 am Ah, I’ve recently done something a bit unprofessional (that’s similar to a recent update AAM posted). Basically, I got really sick right before Christmas. (It turns out it’s bronchitis.) I called in sick on Tuesday, and that was fine, but Wednesday is generally our work from home day. I had slept for literally 17 hours when I woke up at 6 a.m., so even though I was still under the weather, I was really motivated to catch back up on Wednesday. I sent a couple emails to co-workers letting them know I’d be around. Well around 9 a.m., I started feeling really weak and decided to “just lay down for a moment.” Five (5!) hours later, I wake up and see an email/text/missed call from my boss who had been trying to contact me. I call her right away, and we get up to date, but my god, I feel absolutely mortified that I’ve given the impression that I think you can just get away with sleeping in the middle of your work-from-home days. Like, I don’t think that at all. I would have definitely worked the hours in the evening (I did, in fact). I see now that really the issue was that I was seriously very ill and should have been taking more days off but felt guilty about doing so. Sometimes you just need to listen to your body. But gosh, I’m really wondering how to handle this on Monday. You know how to go about broaching the topic about how I clearly think that’s inappropriate etc. without making it a bigger issue than it has to be.
danr* January 2, 2016 at 8:56 am Don’t make a big deal out of it. Just mention that the bronchitis was worse than you thought it was. Having had it, I know how you can feel a bit better and be completely wrong.
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 9:46 pm Yep, just give them the facts from what you wrote here. Don’t wait for the boss to ask, tell him you need to talk to him, and then go for it. Tell him you are mortified, nothing like this has ever happened before, etc. Tell him you made up the lost time. Then wait to see what he says. I had a situation where my dog got away from me and I was late for work by the thirty minutes it took me to catch him. I died a hundred deaths. I never had this problem before. I went in, told the boss what happened and apologized. He just chuckled and never mentioned it again. I think it is because I did not wait for him to say something.
Today's anon* January 2, 2016 at 8:17 am Help! If a recipe calls for shortening (either lard or vegetable), can I use butter or oil instead? It’s basically to saute bacon and vegetables, then you add other things, including stock. Which would be better? And is it a one to one ratio? The recipe calls for 3 tablespoons. Thanks!
Katie the Fed* January 2, 2016 at 8:36 am For that kind of recipe, absolutely! For baking, it might make a difference but since you’re talking Sauteing, you should be find with a good glug of olive oil or knob of butter.
Former Diet Coke Addict* January 2, 2016 at 9:46 am Yup, for sauteing you’ll be fine. Butter tends to give more flavour. I never measure for things like that so I’d just toss a chunk of butter into the pan and call it fine.
Older not yet wiser* January 2, 2016 at 9:55 am If your recipe calls for 3 tbsp shortening then use 3 tbsp of butter. When baking it might alter the texture of cake/cookies a bit to make this substitution, but for your recipe it shouldn’t matter at all. I’m not sure about subbing vegetable oil, but you’ll be fine with butter.
Not So NewReader* January 3, 2016 at 11:29 am I love substitution lists. I think I even stumbled across a book of what to substitute for Thing you do not have. Many of the suggestions actually work out well.
Regular Poster, But Anon for This* January 2, 2016 at 8:34 am I just don’t want to go to work on Monday. The thought of not having a paid holiday until Memorial Day irritates me. Our parent company took away all but 6 paid holidays, and so far hasn’t reduced our vacation time, yet. I have a sinking feeling we’ll be losing two new hires. They’re great, but have caught on to the fact that there are no raises, no incentives for doing a good job, and one was overheard saying “this place is a joke”. The other is already applying for another job, just 8 months in. This is a direct result of our manager in name only coddling and protecting people who should have never been hired in the first place, or should have been let go years ago. We are already down a person due to long term medical leave, and if they leave, we will be sunk. As in working a ton of overtime sunk, and I for one don’t want to work 1 minute past the 8 hour shift I’m supposed to work. I just don’t. Care. Any. More. I’m continuing to look for a new job, but this is a really economically depressed area, so jobs that pay a true living wage with benefits like decent insurance and vacation time are few and far between. It’s so true that people leave managers and not jobs. My actual job is not hard, and I do it well. But putting up with my manager is stressful and irritating, and that’s on a good day.
Former Diet Coke Addict* January 2, 2016 at 9:44 am I understand completely. My job itself is not difficult, and I’m fine at it and even enjoy it at times. But my boss is such a whackjob that he’s effectively alienated all five employees and has no idea that all five of us are actively trying to leave. Putting up with him is so awful that it really poisons my Sunday evenings, having to face him the next day. I’m also in a rural/depressed area, so I completely, completely understand and sympathize. You’re not alone! Your workplace and mine could be twins. Do you have anything to do outside of work that you love, to take care of yourself? It makes such a big difference.
Regular Poster, But Anon for This* January 2, 2016 at 12:52 pm I’m sorry and glad at the same time that I am not alone in the work world! I have outside interests that involve outdoor activities and doing things with friends, Netflix, reading, etc. plus elderly parents that live close by. This is why I don’t want to work one more minute than necessary. I don’t get home until after 5 PM, and I want to maximize my time. These things keep me sane, but truthfully, going to work and dealing with my boss is like a dentist appointment every day. Dreading, just hoping it’s over soon, and then relief when I walk out the door. And no, she won’t take suggestions or criticism. I’ve tried to gently suggest different ways of doing things, like setting up group tasks in Outlook or setting up meeting requests instead of her walking from office to office and asking people if something is done, or that we will have a meeting, etc. It’s so annoying and oh, surprise! She skips people or forgets to go back if someone isn’t at their desk, and they know nothing about what’s going on. Nope. I suspect she doesn’t have the skills necessary to actually use the tools in Outlook and that’s her way of covering up. This is one small example. One day I came to work wearing jeans, and quickly learned that we had visitors that day and she had walked around the previous day and stated that everyone had to wear dress clothes. Well, guess what. She missed me, so I had to feel uncomfortable for the entire day due to my lack of dress conformity. I could go on, but I’m pretty sure there’s a text limit.
Former Diet Coke Addict* January 2, 2016 at 2:28 pm Trust me–I 100% completely and totally feel you on this. I really do. My boss is the owner and won’t take any sort of criticism or suggestion for anything. At all. Ever. Period. In addition to expecting mind-readers, paying peanuts, constantly changing our commission structure, straight-up taking sales from us (I work in sales), you name it, he’s done it. If you look at one of Alison’s lists of “things bad managers do,” he hits almost every thing on it. I know that I’ll be moving away in the spring, so I’m just counting down until then. Keep applying for jobs and popping in here–lots of us in the same boat who are desperate for new jobs. Hang in there.
also anon for this* January 2, 2016 at 11:07 am I could almost have written this, except that my boss is okay, but he is the one out on extended medical leave. The owner, however, is an alcoholic nutcase. I have been in my position almost 18 months, which is not enough time to get an equivalent job elsewhere. I am seriously considering staying to the 2 year point and getting a professional certification to make myself more marketable. It sounds like it is time for you to develop an escape plan. Start looking at your strengths and thinking about what you want to be doing, then plan out how to make it happen. You may not be able to make it happen immediately, but at least you will have a plan and something to look forward to.
Regular Poster, But Anon for This* January 2, 2016 at 1:11 pm Resume updated, references in place, and waiting to pounce on an opportunity. Maybe I’ll win the Powerball drawing tonight and never have to set foot in there again!
NicoleK* January 2, 2016 at 3:40 pm Hang in there. Something will happen. I left ex- job for the exact same reasons. Instead of removing obstacles, ex-boss was putting obstacles in my path.
Katie the Fed* January 2, 2016 at 8:40 am You guys, my cat does morning exercises. Every day for 15 or so minutes between 7:30 and 9, he just sprints around the house, back and forth, at full speed. It’s absolutely hilarious.
AcidMeFlux* January 2, 2016 at 9:47 am Just wait till he switches to night shift and does the same between 3-4:30.
Schnapps* January 2, 2016 at 4:24 pm Surprising, because greeblings are usually nocturnal. (google “chasing greeblings”)
Weekend Warrior* January 2, 2016 at 11:43 pm My 9 year old tortie still does her morning HIIT, including jumping up and kicking the wall with her hind legs for more propulsion. Inspiring, and exhausting, to watch her!
Mallory Janis Ian* January 3, 2016 at 4:13 pm My six-year-old cat still does, too. She’ll jump up the door frame and hang there looking at us all wild-eyed. We say how crazy she is by how far up she jumps: “four feet of crazy” is a medium amount; “seven feet of crazy” is full-on maximum energy level.
Sunflower27* January 2, 2016 at 11:39 am I wrote a few weeks ago that I was concerned about a line I drew with my newlywed sister when she found out her husband cheated on her a few months before her wedding. She married him anyway and told us three months after the wedding that he was actively involved with another woman, using steroids and using prescription pills. The line I drew was that he is not allowed in my house and she is not allowed to complain about him if she is going to stay. I got some great advice from commenters and I appreciate that. Update: She has not brought him to Christmas but didn’t eat with us. She left after two hours, presumably to go to his parents house. She spent New Years with friends (not him). Sadly, she is riding the emotional roller coaster but at least she is in therapy now. Hopefully she doesn’t keep dumping into this bad investment.
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 9:54 pm I hope she doesn’t either, but I am a tiny bit optimistic in that she came to your house without him, she spent New Years with friends and she is in therapy. This is an improvement over what was going on before. I hope it continues.
Sunflower27* January 3, 2016 at 2:03 pm They live in a basement apt. I think she can swing it or move on with friends and be okay. I think she is afraid to leave three months into a marriage.
Not So NewReader* January 3, 2016 at 5:52 pm Better now than 3 years or 30 years from now. There is no ideal time to leave. There is no so-so time to leave. Matter of fact, if she is not careful there will always be a handy reason not to leave.Ugh. I hope for the best for her.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 2, 2016 at 12:02 pm Two pieces of kitchen equipment with cult followings have baffled and disappointed me recently, and I’m hoping devotees of these can give me insight. 1. Rösle garlic press. From reviews, this should be the holy grail of garlic presses. People adore it, want it to marry their first-borns, etc. I bought one a few weeks ago and I Do Not Like It. The chamber for garlic is small, and it seems to spew crushed garlic in all directions. I’m going back to my OXO steel garlic press, which seems better to me. What’s the deal with the Rösle ones? 2. All-Clad saute pan. I bought this one, and the handle is so uncomfortable. I ended up giving it to my mom, who then had the same issue with it and insisted on returning it to me. I bought a Tramontina pan recommended by Cook’s Illustrated instead, and like it better. What gives, All-Clad? (Katie the Fed — I know you are a huge fan! Come explain this to me.)
hollaynia* January 2, 2016 at 1:07 pm We bought that same All Clad saute pan and also hated it! It was our first All-Clad purchase and will likely be our last. Looks like we are more non-stick people.
Katie the Fed* January 2, 2016 at 1:42 pm What did you hate about it? The food sticking? That’s something that can be a big change for people who don’t cook on stainless steel usually. There’s a trick to it – you have to let the pan warm up, then put in a fair amount of oil, and then put in your food. That’ll minimize the sticking. But if it’s not your thing, that’s cool too :) I’ve found cooking on clad cookware has really improved and inspired my cooking, but you can cool well in pretty much any cookware.
hollaynia* January 2, 2016 at 8:11 pm The food sticking thing I was prepared for, but I just can’t get over how heavy it is. And like Alison, I also thought the handle was uncomfortable. I think I just don’t cook a lot of sauces and such that it’s really perfect for.
Nashira* January 2, 2016 at 11:28 pm Heaviness for pots is such a tricky thing. I know the greater thermal mass means it heats more evenly, but I can’t cook in pots I can’t lift. It’s one reason why I stopped admiring Le Creuset products after trying to pick up an empty 6qt dutch oven. Maybe once I’ve gone back to weight lifting, it’ll be do-able, but uh… Right now I’ll stick to our nonstick Cuisinart pans.
Katie the Fed* January 2, 2016 at 1:40 pm Oh no! I believe I recommended both the Rosle and the All-Clad. I still stand by the Rosle – are you peeling it first? That’s odd – mine comes out really well and it’s so easy to clean. On the All-Clad, I don’t like the original tri-ply for that reason. I have one piece of it – a saucier, that I HATE. I prefer the D5 which has far more comfortable handles. I have no idea why they make such awful uncomfortable handles, and it’s a well-known issue that people are quite vocal about. FWIW, I really like Williams Sonoma ThermoClad line – they have much more comfortable handles and really nice lids that stay cool. I’ve picked a few pieces up at a steal at the WS Outlet. I also like that they’re made in Italy, not China.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJanuary 2, 2016 at 2:32 pm You’re not to blame for the Rosle, don’t worry! (The whole rest of the internet is.) I tried both peeled and unpeeled (I actually got it because I was excited about the idea of not having to peel, but neither worked well for me). I also felt like it required lots of force to squeeze. But it is indeed amazingly easy to clean, and I like that the whole crushing area comes up for cleaning. The Tramontina ended up working really well, but the next time I’m thinking about buying a new pan, I’ll check out ThermoClad and the D5. Thanks!
AcidMeFlux* January 2, 2016 at 5:36 pm I am nowhere near a nimble cook, but I get by. I gave up on garlic presses years ago. Buy a small pointy veg knife of good quality. Smash the clove with the flat of the knife, peel off the skin and chop it to death. The knife can be used for other purposes and that’s one less gadget in the kitchen drawer (though I live in a small apartment with a tiny kitchen, so life is all about improvisation.) However, if you DO really want a garlic press and can find one you like, make it worth your while and use it for a lot of things. Instead of using anchovy paste, put a canned-in-olive-oil anchovy in the press and use that. Or put a couple of pitted olives in the press to give some body to a salad dressing. Ditto with a chopped sun-dried tomato.
CC* January 3, 2016 at 9:19 pm I prefer to use a big knife for this. Much bigger smashing surface (and bigger target for your hand).
AvonLady Barksdale* January 2, 2016 at 8:37 pm Don’t give up on All-Clad! I have a 13″ braising pan that I love and use for EVERYTHING. Two short handles means I expect to use both hands to move it. It’s perfect for curries, sauteed veggies, big risottos… I used to use it for chicken, too.
KAZ2Y5* January 3, 2016 at 12:11 am Use a microplaner for your garlic! I used to use a garlic press and really loved it, but someone told me about the microplaner and I have never looked back! If you haven’t seen one, it is a small grater. Also good for grating nutmeg or hard cheeses. I have a full set of Tramontina cookware and love it. I bought it because of the Cooks Illustrated review also. All Clad is way over my budget!
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 4:30 pm All-Clad’s handles stink. They’re way too long, so the leverage is off. And the handle is curved weird. And All-Clad itself is just too heavy for real-life. I’ve spent some years as a High-End Cookware!!! devotee, and I’ve always dislike All-Clad. I always felt slightly guilty about that.
Bibliovore* January 2, 2016 at 2:24 pm since it is the free for all. I am just going to whine. Had a tooth pulled almost two weeks ago. Still enough pain to be distracting. Saw the dentist on Thursday. He says everything is fine but due to other health issues, I am a slow healer. Flying should be okay. Sick and tired of feeling sick and tired. Off the heavy duty meds but taking my preferred NSAID. Big 3 days of work then a National Conference in Boston. Boston people…I need to take a few VIPs to dinner Thursday night. Any recommendations. I will be staying near the convention center if that helps. No steak (no kidding)
Anonymous Educator* January 2, 2016 at 4:37 pm Which convention center? The one near the seaport? Or the Hynes? I don’t know a lot of good high-end stuff near the seaport, but if you’re looking for not too-far-from-Hynes, I’d recommend Eastern Standard or Post 390.
fposte* January 2, 2016 at 9:44 pm New one on the waterfront, unfortunately. (Not Bibliovore, but similarly conference-aimed.)
Anonymous Educator* January 2, 2016 at 11:10 pm Hm. Don’t know much around there. Is the North End too far? Panza is a nice restaurant there.
TL -* January 3, 2016 at 7:07 am Legal Seafood is a good Boston standby; there’s one on harborside. (They’re nice but not extreme upscale and they’re really good about dietary restrictions). But not many vegetarian options. My favorite is Yankee Lobster but it’s a hole in the wall place.
Schnapps* January 2, 2016 at 3:16 pm All morning, I’m walking around thinking it’s Sunday. Then husband-type tells me it’s Saturday. I just gained an extra day off! :)
Kimberlee, Esq* January 3, 2016 at 8:47 am This happened to me and my partner too! All day yesterday we were sure it was Sunday, to the degree that if I hadn’t called my mom, or she hadn’t randomly mentioned the day, we probably would have showed up to work this morning.
MsChanandlerBong* January 2, 2016 at 3:25 pm I’m stuck in a YouTube hole and can’t get out! I wanted to listen to an all-clarinet version of “Molly on the Shore,” which led me to the all-clarinet version of the overture to “Candide.” I’ve also listened to all-clarinet versions of the Star Wars theme, Lion King, Titanic, and “Sing Sing Sing.” Any YouTube recommendations you want to share?
Cruciatus* January 2, 2016 at 3:30 pm Simon’s Cat. I watched nearly all of them at once a few years ago. There’s a new one every few months. They are short, 1-2 minute animated cat videos about the joys of cat ownership/being a cat.
MsChanandlerBong* January 2, 2016 at 4:09 pm I have five cats, so you couldn’t have made a better recommendation. Thanks!
salad fingers* January 2, 2016 at 4:28 pm Postmodern Jukebox, if you want to to stay in the music hole.
Anonymous Educator* January 2, 2016 at 4:30 pm Search for darth vader unicycle bagpipes. You won’t regret it.
Anonymous Educator* January 2, 2016 at 4:34 pm I’d also recommend: MitchiriNeko March – Cute cat characters in a marching band! Confessions of a Disney Employee Darth Vader Dances to “Beat It” “Baby Got Back” sung by the movies
Nobody* January 2, 2016 at 8:52 pm Search for KLM lost and found service. It always makes me smile. Target Women. My personal favorites are yogurt, Broadview Security, and doofy husbands. Cinema Sins and Honest Trailers (best for movies you have watched recently).
alice* January 2, 2016 at 4:00 pm Well, I’m late to the game, but I am having a work-related problem. My company is screwing over our customers. We had an extremely competent employee who was fired about a year ago after 12 years with us. Things have gone downhill since. His replacement has no idea what he’s doing and keeps severely messing up cases (messups that lead to small claims court and sometimes months of free services). My boss is standing 100% behind this guy, making customer interactions really difficult for me (the office manager). Boss is refusing to acknowledge any wrongdoing on our end, even with documentation. I’m just watching our longtime customers go without being able to do anything besides offer sympathy. I’m planning on moving in September, so I have no desire to find another job at the moment. I just feel stuck between wanting to acknowledge how awful we are as a company but also not being able to legally say anything to that effect. What would you do in this situation?
Rubyrose* January 2, 2016 at 4:06 pm Any chance that management above your boss does not know about this but would care? Or is your boss the highest level up?
alice* January 2, 2016 at 4:13 pm Unfortunately, my boss is the highest level. I’ve been talking with him about the problems since the replacement was hired – using polite language coupled with ideas I have. The situation seems unlikely to change until the company becomes financially unstable. That doesn’t seem likely to happen within the next year, which I can’t decide is a good or bad thing.
Sherm* January 2, 2016 at 6:21 pm Ugh, that’s an unfortunate situation. It reminds me of a chain bookstore I used to work for. It was struggling financially, so it stopped delivering new books to our new location. This location eventually closed, but it was a slow death. I hated telling customers “I’m afraid we don’t have that book” when I wanted to say “I know, I’m sorry, this is so lame!” If your sympathy is all you can give to customers, well, that’s something. They already know the company is being awful. In the meantime you can continue to try to get through to the boss how bad things are, and don’t make any unfair sacrifices to save the company from its dysfunction. For example, if your boss says “Could you possibly cancel your doctor’s appointment to rescue us from our latest snafu?” say “I’m sorry, but this appointment is important.” Sometimes, things can’t be fixed until they’re allowed to break (or break harder, which could be the case for your company).
alice* January 2, 2016 at 7:15 pm Thanks for the comment. I will continue to talk to my boss because I do care about the company. But maybe you’re right – sometimes things need to break. Who knows, maybe a wakeup call (ie, another major messup) will snap my boss out of his stupor.
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 10:04 pm When no one else gives a fig, you have to watch out for yourself. If you see something you know could get you in a jam, just get out. Leave. No job is worth going to jail for.
BRR* January 2, 2016 at 10:53 pm Well it sounds like things aren’t going to change and you’ll have to decide if you can live with it or not.
Wakeen's Teapots, Ltd.* January 2, 2016 at 4:09 pm Mildly irritated. Employee gives notice. Nice guy who has done a good job for us for almost 4 years. We know that he wants to make more money faster than his current career progression can give him so we were expecting that he might make a move in the coming months. Mildly irritating (but understandable), he give two weeks notice on 12/28 with all of senior management out for the holiday week. So, he resigns via email. Mildly irritating (but not his fault), I decide to haul my butt in from vacation to have a sit down conversation with him the next day. It didn’t seem right to me to wait until the week upcoming to do a face to face so, even though I was getting ready to go out of town, I went into the office for an hour for us to sit down and talk (and then got caught up in other things, “since I was there already” and that took up half a day.) More than mildly irritating, three of us management types (all on vacation because hello, it’s a holiday week), had to spend the rest of the day in communication (phone and email) as we hammered out a transition plan. (employee has been heading up a New Thing that we don’t have a lot of people trained on, so strategy needed about how to close the gap since we really only had one week of notice to work with, the holiday week not being conducive to transition. The irritating kicker: I caught in my email, while out of town, that he decided on his own (no prior authorization) to take a day and half vacation last week. All he did was email the department that he’d be out. Somebody else, less trained, had to scramble to cover for him. Seriously? This ain’t two weeks notice. It’s one and change. He only worked two days of his first “week” of notice. (We had a half day on New Years Eve and off New Years Day.) Not a burnt bridge but a bridge that now has a one way sign. (And this new job he’s taken, I don’t think he grasps, is in notoriously high turnover/burnout sector that makes big promises about $$ but ends up working out for just a percent of the most hardy.) I think I’m more irritated about how dumb it was of him to conduct himself this way, for his own good, than anything else.
Wakeen's Teapots, Ltd.* January 2, 2016 at 4:38 pm Yep, but we run mostly skeleton the week after Christmas because virtually all of our factories are closed and we’re business to business so customer need is light. In my case, the only vacation I take the entire year is the past two weeks. So the key managers needed to create the transition plan were out this past week, although we always have a least one person at management level in the building. And of course we are all on email/accessible.
Valar M.* January 3, 2016 at 12:36 pm Eesh. Its understandable that that’s the way you do things – but you’re putting yourself at risk for problems like this one and others that way. I don’t think you can be mad about having to come in – that’s the risk you take by having all the managers out at the same time when something can go wrong and require one of you. You either have to live with that or take turns taking those weeks off. (But I get that its frustrating to come in on vacation).
Wakeen's Teapots, Ltd.* January 4, 2016 at 5:58 am Ha, I don’t do risky things. :-) That’ll be on my tombstone “She Did Not Do Risky Things”. It took them years to get me to take a vacation at all. Everything is pretty much planned for except a resignation. We don’t have much turnover so that IS one thing that isn’t on the detailed December plan we draw up. I’m only mildly irritated but if I haul my butt in to have a face to face, you could tell me THEN you don’t plan on working the rest of the week of your two week notice period. Ya know?
Rubyrose* January 2, 2016 at 4:33 pm It was dumb of him, and I would probably be more than mildly irritated. The bridge may not be burnt, but I can smell the smoke. Keep him very busy next week. Make him write a detailed transition plan. Check its progress daily and feel free to insist on changes where needed. No leaving early on Friday. Maybe plan on transition meetings that start early afternoon and last up until his last half hour?
Wakeen's Teapots, Ltd.* January 2, 2016 at 4:57 pm He’ll be involved in the transition but we’re much less likely to trust him with anything of importance after this past week. He’ll probably end up sidelined more than anything else.
Observer* January 2, 2016 at 6:40 pm Smart. It might feel good to try to “pay him off”, but it won’t get you what you need.
Wakeen's Teapots, Ltd.* January 2, 2016 at 6:57 pm I’m amazed that there are people who can’t keep it together for a two week notice period. It’s just two weeks! I had someone last year give her two weeks, very pleasant conversation, who then walked back to her desk, told everyone in her area and started to pack her desk immediately, talking to this, that and another person about whether they wanted [whatever thing it was she was packing]. Stunned I’m like “WHAT are you doing? Your last day isn’t for two weeks.” “Oh, I know but I wanted to get a head start.” *headdesk* I pulled her aside and told her if she could keep quiet and not pack her desk until Friday afternoon, she could work just the next three days and we’d pay her for the week after and call it a two week notice. FFS.
Wakeen's Teapots, Ltd.* January 2, 2016 at 6:58 pm * pay her for the next week, I meant to write. Meaning, we’d pay her NOT to work. :)
Dr. Doll* January 3, 2016 at 4:34 am Yes, I had someone give a 2-week notice and then use 7 PTO days. …he never did much and I was glad to get rid of him, but I thought it was unprofessional at best. Sure, it’s within the rules, but it wasn’t good form.
Wakeen's Teapots, Ltd.* January 3, 2016 at 10:55 am Eh, that’s not two weeks notice. Two weeks notice is working 10 more days in order to transition smoothly. I would have let him take the 7 pto days, paid him for 3 more and had him leave the same day he quit (or whenever it came up that he was taking the PTO). Be done with that. (The other option would be denying the PTO but I’m not interested in *making* somebody stay. That’s miserable for the people around them.) We’ve had a weird run the last few years of most people who’ve given notice asking for their jobs back after X months. Usually it’s better for everybody to just move on but somebody who is responsible about notice period, focusing on ease of process in transition, helps leave a door open for themselves should the new job not be what they wanted.
Not So NewReader* January 4, 2016 at 8:33 am This whole thing strikes me as odd. I was always told that two weeks notice meant “hours worked” not PTO. So if you had to go to the doctor one day, then your leave date would be 11 days out, to compensate for the one day of PTO. The only way a person could avoid that extra day would be by specific agreement with the boss, meaning have a conversation. I hope you can get to explain the norm to him on this point.
Soupspoon McGee* January 3, 2016 at 3:42 pm I will admit that in my first office job, I gave three weeks’ notice, but then took a week of vacation because I just did not understand that they wanted three weeks out of ME, not just three weeks to advertise the job. I was very naive. So, your guy could be an unprofessional flake, or just not very experienced in professional norms. I’ll also add that in my last office job, they had three MONTHS, yet people avoided meeting with me until my last 45 minutes to discuss transition. That’s not relevant to your situation, but it still rankles.
Wakeen's Teapots, Ltd.* January 4, 2016 at 7:24 am You gave two weeks! In my world, what you did would have been appreciated. As far as the second story, I remember your saga. That was something else.
Katie the Fed* January 2, 2016 at 5:05 pm One more question: We have a creek on the side of our yard. In the last week I’ve seen a few tweens/teenagers getting back there to play in/around the creek. I only know they’re there because the dog barks when they’re running back through the yard to get there. On the one hand – I understand, creeks are fun! On the other – it’s our property and I’m worried that a kid could fall in and hurt himself and we could be in legal trouble. Should I be saying something? Posting signs?
Mt* January 2, 2016 at 5:59 pm In some jurisdictions that creeks and and the land directly around it belong to the city\state\county. If you do own it became you could be liable if they get hurt since you know they are on your property and essently allow them access
Blue_eyes* January 2, 2016 at 7:33 pm Yeah, I think you need to do something about that. If it’s your property you could be liable if someone gets injured (or worse). Figure out if the area they are in is actually part of your property and what your legal responsibilities are for people who are injured on your property.
Dr. Johnny Fever* January 2, 2016 at 8:28 pm If you aren’t sure that the creek is truly on your property, check with city/County records and ask about the last surveys done for that property. The survey will indicates whether the creek runs through your property or not. Assuming you own it, call your homeowners insurance regarding civil liability and any coverage your policy may or may not provide. Be sure that you are protected in a worst-case scenario and are sued in civil court. For criminal liability, talk to city/County officials of the clerks office to determine what precautions you must take per applicable local ordinance. Good luck!
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 10:19 pm Talk to your neighbors, find out how they handle things. Above all else you do not want to stand out like a sore thumb. My father lived in a very rural area. One of the norms was you do not hang up posted signs EVER. It sent a hostile message out to people that you would never fix and make the rest of your time on that property a miserable time. My property is not as rural, but it’s definitely not a city. I have a small lot that kids cut though to get to a field where they can play. Knowing my father’s experience, I did nothing and waited. It’s been over a couple decades now, and nothing has happened. See, part of it is that everyone knows everyone. You go and talk to Johnny’s father or Bobby’s mom. One young woman would not stop driving over my septic tank. Finally I said I was going to go see her mom. That was the end of that. Knowing all this, my best advice is talk to your neighbors and find out what they are doing. Ask them if they have any concerns. If you just start throwing up signs because your lawyer said so, you may be setting the wrong tone and might regret it later.
Not So NewReader* January 3, 2016 at 7:02 pm After reading the comments here and knowing what can happen, I have to add: please be very careful about using City Ways to solve Country Problems. Know the culture/norms of your community. Your solution maybe as simple as removing a few trees so you can see the brook better. Or your solution maybe to go down and introduce yourself to the kids. Or maybe you are really rural and you can warn the kids that other neighbors allow people to hunt on their property. Since the brook is on the border of those hunted lands, you can say you are worried for their safety. Try all the softer approaches you can think of, first.
Mando Diao* January 3, 2016 at 2:20 am You need to nip it in the bud now. These teens think they’ve found a cool new place to hang out in secret. You’re going to start finding beer cans, cigarette butts, and food wrappers on your property. They may even start smoking pot there, and however you feel about legalization, you probably don’t want stranger-teens openly smoking it in your backyard. When the weather gets warmer, they’ll sneak back there with blankets and hook up. I realize that this is an uncharitable view of teenagers, but it’s something my family dealt with when we lived in an area where the yards were divided up by swaths of trees. Honestly, we weren’t concerned with liability. Teens were doing drugs and having sex in our backyard, and we didn’t feel that we had to be nice when telling them to get lost.
Valar M.* January 3, 2016 at 12:32 pm Yes. Post signs. Maybe put up a fence. This happened to my grandmother’s property when we were kids. She owned a creek and a large pond – and everyone would come to fish, hunt frogs, splash around. My grandmother was a little more hardcore about it because it made her furious – but it is legitimately dangerous if someone gets hurt on your property. You at least want to show due diligence to keeping them off. You might also want to consult with someone in the city or a lawyer or laws in your area to get more information on your responsibility towards that situation.
Tris Prior* January 2, 2016 at 5:11 pm Ran across a job posting today that looks really interesting. It sounds like it is definitely NOT an entry-level job. But… I’m over 40, and the ad is asking for a number of school-related things to be included in the cover letter – like, asking us to describe our college experience and to disclose what our SAT/ACT scores were. (Mine were high… but long ago enough that it’s the old scoring system.) That’s weird, right? Red flag that they want someone young? Worth applying to?
katamia* January 2, 2016 at 5:16 pm Is it an education-related job? When I’ve worked for tutoring companies in the past, they’ve wanted my standardized test scores.
Anonymous Educator* January 2, 2016 at 5:25 pm How do you know it’s definitely not an entry-level job? I’d say it’s worth applying to. Like all jobs, the worst that can happen is they don’t hire you (or call you).
Tris Prior* January 2, 2016 at 5:55 pm True, but they want specific writing samples that I’ll need to do from scratch and a fairly involved cover letter, so not sure I want to spend the time. And, they’re asking for more than entry-level experience. I’ll probably throw something together regardless… seems like that is when I get the job, when I don’t spend hours on an application/samples, haha.
Anonymous Educator* January 2, 2016 at 8:36 pm Yeah, that’s definitely your call in terms of how much time and energy you want to invest in applying to this particular position. It’s not a red flag, though… just odd.
Mando Diao* January 3, 2016 at 2:11 am I’m 30 (which these days is an age when a lot of us are fresh out of grad school), and my SATs were scored under the old system. I couldn’t tell you if this is an entry-level posting or not, but there are people in their 20s whose SATs are out of 1600, so I wouldn’t worry on that count.
Sunflower* January 2, 2016 at 6:19 pm Do ya’ll check this thread on Monday/through the week? It’s hard for me to post on weekends sometimes and I love to comment on people’s posts on Monday mornings but I’m not sure if anyone is still checking?
Blue_eyes* January 2, 2016 at 7:35 pm I often check Monday morning to see if there are any last comments or responses to my comments. I’m on the East Coast so people in other time zones are often up later than I am commenting.
Mallory Janis Ian* January 2, 2016 at 9:48 pm I usually do on Mondays, but not to look for new content. I just search for my own name to see if there are any new comments in threads I’ve been commenting in, and then I move along.
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 10:22 pm Me, too. But sometimes I will see something at the bottom that strikes me so I will respond to a new post at the bottom.
Carmen Sandiego JD* January 2, 2016 at 7:09 pm The mom is far away (18 hrs!! hallelujah) and I’m getting peace and quiet. For Xmas, boyfriend gave me a heart-shaped silver ring (like a promise ring I guess?) I wear it on my ring finger (right). We’re about to hit a couple yrs together. Now, my mom calls from far away saying go out and meet people, and do *not* make any permanent longstanding commitments with the boy. Has anyone had weird family members/strict parents order you to never 1) marry and/or 2) to never have kids with the guy you’re with? Have any of you married without getting parental blessing? How’d it go? I mean, boy and I have a while before thinking engagement (hypothetically) but my mom’s getting weird. Thoughts?
Blue_eyes* January 2, 2016 at 7:39 pm Do what’s right for you. Your mom will come around eventually (or maybe not), but don’t let her dictate your choices as an adult. Does she have any specific issues with him? Or is she just generally feeling threatened or something similar because you have someone else important in your life now? If other people in your life who you trust (friends, other family members, etc.) express the same concerns about your boyfriend, then listen carefully and decide whether their concerns have merit. My husband’s parents and my mom were not thrilled about us getting engaged, but now almost five years later they have all come around.
Anonymous Educator* January 2, 2016 at 8:35 pm She may be saying it like it’s an order, but you’re fully within your rights as a human being to take it simply as advice (which is what it really is). “Thanks for your perspective. I’ll take that under advisement.” If she pushes more, just say “‘Thanks. I said I would take your opinion into consideration. Bye.” That said, I will say if you want to have a good relationship with your parents, you do have to pick your battles (same for parents—if you want to have a good relationship with your children, you have to pick your battles). I’ve seen numerous times people’s parents not liking their child’s fiancé or fiancée and then years later coming around to… at least tolerate if not genuinely have affection for the daughter-in-law or son-in-law.
Observer* January 2, 2016 at 10:10 pm Given what you have written so far, I don’t think you can really think in terms of the typical “parents don’t like / approve of my BF” situations. I come from a background where it’s totally normal for parents to be involved in their children’s marriage decisions etc. But, even in such communities there are limits and lines. Your mother sounds like she has crossed most, if not all, of them. In short, the issue is not THIS bf. You need to think about and figure out how to keep your mother from getting into your relationships altogether, not so much THIS relationship.
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 10:32 pm I think that marriages are for two people. Not two people plus one mother. It’s your life, marry the person you want to be with forever. If I had to guess, I would guess that no one you chose would be to your mother’s liking. She’s not weird, she’s moved beyond weird. She has some very toxic behaviors going on, the behaviors are poisonous to you and your other half. When you get engaged her behaviors will probably increase.
Shannon* January 3, 2016 at 12:44 am I married without my mother’s blessing. The wedding was even just my husband and I, so I didn’t have to invite her. Honestly, it doesn’t go well. One way or another, you’re going to lose someone, your boyfriend or your mother. My husband and I have been married for 10 years, my mom died two years ago. I’ve followed your family drama on open threads, and I’m sure you’ve been told a million times, but, I hope you’re in therapy for your relationship with your mother. Even though she’s 18 hours away, that won’t stop her from trying to control your life (or she would have never told you to not commit to your boyfriend to begin with). You have to make the decision that’s right for YOU, not right for your mother.
Mando Diao* January 3, 2016 at 2:07 am I’ll be a little blunt: you need to stop weighing your mother’s opinions as if they’re the valid thoughts of someone with optimal mental and emotional health. Ask your mom to find you a guy who she thinks is good enough for you. She won’t be able to, since she doesn’t want you to be happy. A lot of us here have cut out toxic parents, and we’re better for it, I promise.
Carmen Sandiego JD* January 4, 2016 at 9:53 am Funny, she listened to a hairdresser who wanted to fix me up with a dentist of same ethnicity as me…based on opposite coasts of the US. Then she offered to have me meet a doctor at her workplace who was 3 yrs older than me, same nationality as my bf. 1) She’s asking me to take anyone my ethnicity or 2) She wants anyone but my bf, and 3) Same workplace so she controls everything…..
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 7:19 pm I’m the mom of a 21yo daughter. She’s going through a big “I don’t care what you think! I’m an adult now!” transition. In our case, it’s over stuff like staying up until 4am even though you’ve asked your mother to wake you up at 10am (and I only say something because she asked me to get her up). Or, having a fit because I said, “You know, your summer is half over–maybe you should call the driving school today and try to get your license before fall.” She sees a mention of logistics (“Make sure your dad knows your plans, so he gives the finance guy the right dollar mount”) as a comment on whether she’s allowed the spend the money for what she plans. So I am experiencing the natural frustration that I suspect all parents of adult children, and their adult children themselves, experience. It can be a difficult transition to a parent–to stop giving advice, even to stop giving directions or orders. (In your case, your mother’s idea of “giving advice” or “giving orders” is WAY beyond what mine ever was.) But it’s also a naturally difficult transition for my daughter–to get to the point where she can blow us off, mentally, without feeling as though it’s a Big Rebellion. Where she can hear me say, “Today would be a good day to call the driving school” and think, “Eh, I don’t want to, but I don’t have to have a huge fight about it.” Or to say, politely, “I don’t think I want to deal with that. Please don’t remind me anymore.” That’s -your- work, and it’s developmentally appropriate for this time in your life. Maybe a counselor could help you with that mental and emotional transition. It isn’t easy. But I also think that your instinctive reaction to your mom’s pressure is mostly accurate. When it feels offensive and wrong to you, it probably is. I want to encourage you to trust yourself. You’ve got good instincts.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 7:44 pm came back to say: I think your mom makes your natural task here harder than most moms make it. I’m on my daughter’s side, so if she says, “Mom, don’t push me on this,” I don’t. In fact, I’m watching out ahead of time for situations in which I need to zip it up. And if the stakes are high enough that I feel I need to say something, I choose my words carefully, so that my advice is given in the same way that I might give it to a colleague or friend. Your mom won’t look for those opportunities to butt out, so you don’t have the ally that my daughter has in her transition. You’ll have to do it all yourself.
Not So NewReader* January 4, 2016 at 8:37 am My aunt did similar things with her adult daughter and it carried the both of them through a lot of situations and problems. They were able to keep their relationship alive and working no matter how tough their own personal problems were.
The Other Dawn* January 2, 2016 at 10:01 pm Has anyone ever been part of a cookbook club? I’m thinking of starting one. And this is why… I moved over a year ago and now live about 45 minutes from friends and family. That’s not a huge distance–about 35 miles–but it might as well be 100 miles. I still feel isolated and my life is spent working, hanging at home with my husband and cats, and running errands. That’s pretty much it. My best friend is getting divorced and is dating. Plus she’s into bars and drinking, which isn’t my thing, so we hardly ever do anything anymore. I have a very hard time making friends, which makes me sad. But at the same time, I very often feel suffocated when people actually call or want to do something. If I make plans I feel like I’m missing out on “me” time at home, but when no one calls or wants to make plans, I feel like nobody cares about me (hence the Christmas card rant several free-for-all threads ago). I feel like a walking contradiction: I want more friends, but I want to be left alone. So, I started looking around on Meetup.com. Anything I’m interested in seems to be far away. Then I got an email about a new meetup: a cookbook club. It sounded exciting, but when I looked at it, it meets over 30 miles from home on a weeknight. UGH! So, I’m thinking about starting one myself.
NYC Redhead* January 3, 2016 at 5:56 pm What is a Cookbook Club? And I definitely understand the contradiction thing & it is very hard to meet new people as an adult, particularly without children.
The Other Dawn* January 4, 2016 at 8:35 am A group of people pick a cookbook each month (or whatever schedule they decide upon) and make some of the recipes, which are shared potluck-style at the next meeting. There’s discussion as to what they like, don’t like, what works, doesn’t, etc. I had just recently heard of it and thought it was interesting.
Fie87* January 2, 2016 at 10:17 pm Quick question. Can food service management experience be substituted for retail management experience? Ex. A job posting asks for 1 yr retail management experience. I have 2 years food service management experience. Is it transferable or will I just be wasting the hiring manager’s time?
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 10:40 pm You can try. I would. Food service and retail are different animals in that one retailer may say it’s fine and another retailer would say nope-nope-nope. There is no clear cut answer. And it also depends on what the store sells. For example a manager at a (plant) nursery probably should have a degree and years of experience. I have always thought retail was a bit slower paced than food service. And to some degree it’s less balls in the air, less to keep track of. But I liked retailing better, I had more sense of accomplishment at the end of the day. Food service, not so much.
The Other Dawn* January 2, 2016 at 10:25 pm And now a work-related question. I’ve been in my job for about a year. I was at my last job for 18 years (I don’t even count the poor job choice I made in 2014 anymore), so it was tough to come in to a new team–two established members and two new members–as the manager. We’ve gotten along well and I feel like we gel for the most part. Throughout the year I’ve brought in treats from time to time as a little reward because they’re awesome, or I’ve let them leave a little early and still paid them (they’re non-exempt). At Christmas I normally buy my direct reports a little gift. At my last job i had only two, so I spent about 30.00 on each person. At this job I have four people. I’ve been having some money issues this year, so I opted to do a group gift. I found this really huge mug that had an awesome saying on it–it was funny and really fit the overall personality of the team as a whole–and filled it with fun little things. I found mini Rubicks cubes, mini slinkies, candy, cute pens, bubbles, etc. I also made them each an individual box of snack mix, since they all rave about it whenever I bring it in (it’s homemade). So three of them raved about it and the fourth person seemed like she liked it, since she said thanks, but she opted not to take her little items. No big deal. She’s older than the others and maybe felt they’re childish. So, anyway, later in the week they said they’re handing out gifts on x day at x time (I had no idea they were doing this and it caught me off guard). I figured it would be an item that’s a couple buck or something. Nope. Each of them spent at least 15.00 on each person, including me. I felt very cheap for what I gave them. And it was awkward. Did I commit an awful faux pas?
Not So NewReader* January 2, 2016 at 10:43 pm I don’t see how you could have. Gifts are not supposed to flow up, only down.
The Other Dawn* January 2, 2016 at 10:56 pm Thanks. It was just so awkward. Not only because they each bought me a gift, and each other a gift, but because I obviously spent way less and made it more about “fun.”
Not So NewReader* January 3, 2016 at 11:36 am Think about how you want it handled and next year take a preemptive strike at it by saying in November what the plan is. Get everyone on the same page early in the season.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 7:51 pm I don’t think you did. And she may not have taken the gifts because–especially if she’s a little older–she is trying to eliminate clutter from her home, and knew she wouldn’t really use them. I don’t think you goofed, especially since you gave your gift beforehand. Here’s my advice, having been sort of in your shoes: Spend $10 to $15, and buy them an Amazon gift card (or any other gift card that you are -certain- they will actually use; it can be different for everybody). Give it to them with a small piece of chocolate and a note that says how glad you are that they work hard all year long. Now that you know they do value “value,” give them something w/ maximum value, that they can spend how they please. As to them giving you gifts–I’ve announced several times (I did it pre-emptively when I first took over my team) that I believe gifts flow down, and that I give my people a Christmas gift but don’t want them to give a gift to me. Each time, they ignore that and drop off a gift at some point. My deputy has flat-out told me, “I know you say this, but I refuse to buy in. I think gifts go where they want, and I want to give you one.” She gives gifts to everyone else on the team, so I think she’d feel really weird to give a gift to them but not me, esp. since she’d do it pretty much in front of me. Fortunately, their gift is -always- less expensive than mine. (I really struggled this year; I’ve given the full-timers $50 gift cards and the steady freelancers $10 cards; this year I wanted to really scale back, but I ended up feeling that I couldn’t, really.) So if there’s already a strong feeling for “buying everyone a gift” idea, then next year try to shape it, even if you can’t eliminate it. But make sure your gift is flat-out value, now that you know.
The Other Dawn* January 2, 2016 at 10:58 pm UGH the videos up top before the comments are automatically playing with sound. Anyone else having that issue? I’m on Chrome.
BRR* January 2, 2016 at 11:07 pm It happen time to time. Get Adblock. I bought Alison’s book, a resume review, and a chocolate teapots mug from cafepress because even with her blessing I felt guilty.
Valar M.* January 3, 2016 at 12:24 pm Me too. It had stopped for awhile, but its back in the last few days. I turned off ad block because it had been better, but I think I’m going to have to revert
Embarrassed* January 2, 2016 at 11:21 pm This is kind of gross so I apologize in advance. Has anyone successfully removed corns on their toes? I tried an over the counter treatment, but it didn’t remove them completely and they just came back after a few days. I feel embarrassed by them and avoid being barefoot/wearing open toed shoes because of it.
Embarrassed* January 2, 2016 at 11:58 pm They’re corns. They look like red bumps on the top of my toes
EPinDC* January 3, 2016 at 1:08 pm This seems like an obvious reply but I’d go to a podiatrist and see how s/he can help.They may be able to provide you with stronger medication. Good luck!
pleiades* January 3, 2016 at 12:09 am I’m thinking about starting a book club. It’s been a while now, but I was in a really fantastic book club for a few years, and it was such a great experience. We read and discussed pretty serious books and I found it really rewarding. Unfortunately after several years it started to dissolve as folks started to move away, have kids, etc. Part of me thinks that this is a great idea, since I enjoyed my previous book club so much. Part of me thinks I’m insane for taking on yet another project.
A Silly Fear* January 3, 2016 at 12:52 am Hi, I have a fear that I am afraid to confess to anyone about. I am not sure how to properly describe it at this point, but maybe explaining the story of why I had this fear might help. When I was a child, I have trouble learning social skills and ended up being bullied and teased a lot by my classmates because I often said/do things that made people upset. I had trouble making friends/sustaining friendships, and whenever I went to class or go on class field trips, I was always left out and be bullied/teased by other kids. I never told my family what was happening to me at school. I didn’t tell the teachers that much either. I just hold it in inside myself throughout my life. Fast-forward to today, I am in my mid-twenties, and I am still affected my problems in my childhood: not making much friends, being extremely introvert, and not being able to make interesting conversations. As an adult, whenever I am asked about my childhood, have conversations that leads to talking about childhood, or asked to do something where I will be in a grade school classroom setting, I get really nervous. Sometimes I might even get chills in my spine or feel faint. I really do not like talking about my childhood. I always refused to volunteer to do work where I will need to communicate with school aged children. I am still not sure what to call my fear. I do not feel scare when a school age child in the street walk up to me to talk to me. I sort of feel that I might be laugh at by the school children whenever I present myself in school activity events/classroom visits. I guess I feel that I will be seen as awkward and dumb like I was seen as by kids when I was little. I am not working in a place where I need to work with kids, but I do have relatives that are school aged children and at this point, I do not want to be at their school events where adults are allowed to supervised. Like when I was a child, I am still not very good at defending myself and I do not know any games/conversations/etc. that can make people excited or want to speak to me. What if the kids think I am boring or “no fun”? I see that there are many adults that can have very good conversations with kids, but unfortunately I am not as good as those adults. I think it is going to take a while for me to get over this fear. I am not have progress in my self-improvement for correcting my flaws, and this makes me more pessimistic about my fear. Has anyone got suggestions (besides going to therapy) about dealing with a “silly” fear that is very hard to get over?
Mando Diao* January 3, 2016 at 1:58 am You’re describing something that’s actually fairly common, so you shouldn’t feel alone in your experiences. If people ask about your childhood, just give objective details about where you went to school and what your favorite subjects were. If you find yourself opening up to someone, say, “I was bullied a lot as a child, so talking about those years is painful for me.”
Colette* January 3, 2016 at 8:54 am 1) I know you want ideas other than therapy, but I think you should consider therapy. This is still making you unhappy, and an outside perspective could help you come up with ways to handle being in a school environment more easily. 2) the kids will probably think you’re boring – not because there’s anything wrong with you, but because you’re not a kid. That’s ok. 3) if you’re confident, kids won’t laugh at you (and you won’t care if they do) 4) kids are people, so you talk to them much like you’d talk to an adult (in an age appropriate way). If they’re wearing a dinosaur shirt, ask if they like dinosaurs. (Which one is their favourite? Why? Can they do a dinosaur roar louder than you can? Who can stomp better?) If they’re carrying a toy car or a doll or a Lego, ask about it. If they could be a superhero, what powers would they want? (Share your thoughts, too. This isn’t an interrogation.) 5) since you were left out/bullied, look for those kids and make a point of saying something nice to them. 6) if you truly don’t want to be around kids (especially in groups), that’s a reasonable choice to make.
Not So NewReader* January 3, 2016 at 12:11 pm I see two things here: The first is a general feeling of social awkwardness. The second is a huge awkwardness around kids. The second one awkwardness with kids- it’s important to realize A LOT of people feel awkward with kids. It does not help that some people are so darn good with kids, that makes the difference feel even bigger and worse. I have a friend that is FANTASTIC with my dog. I love dogs and I have had dogs most of my life. But my friend is so creative in playing with my dog and teaching him things it makes me look like a slacker. My point is do not compare yourself with these people that excel with children- it’s not fair to you and it’s not realistic to think that everyone is like The Excellent Kid Person. There’s a part of me that feels sorry for kids and I know that is because of my own issues growing up. I remember how a kid can feel so powerless. Here the trick is to realize there might be several very strong emotions at play here. So as you look at this whole thing, be kind to you first and foremost. And understand that the problem may have layers and you will work down through the layers. The first one – the feeling of social awkwardness- you can help yourself a little by reading. This takes time, it’s an investment. Read advice columns- Carolyn Hax is popular so is Captain Awkward. Learn what other people are going through and learn about things that others worry about. This will help so much with sorting out your own concerns. Another thing to do is kind of interesting; read etiquette books. Find out the thinking being the “rules” for proper behaviors. (Nutshell: It is so we do not cause others to feel embarrassed or unaccepted. But etiquette books will be more specific and sometimes give you background on how we adopted a particular social custom.) If you know how you want to handle situations that can make a difference in how social settings feel to you. And finally, this one you may not like me very well after I say it, read up on bullying. We all have a little kid in us. Take the little kid in you and teach her how to stand up for herself when she needs to. Teach her what types of situations she needs to say something and what types of situations she can just let it go. It’s not our fault that our elders did not teach us how to stand up for ourselves or that they did not watch out for us more closely. The only thing we can do is teach ourselves what we should have learned years ago. Yeah, this one is a rough one. Tell yourself that it is a memory now, it is not happening anymore. As you read along keep reminding yourself that the extreme bullying you suffered is over, it is not happening in present time. One of the most liberating things I found was recognizing the answers are not in my head. Lord knows, I have searched every corner of it, too! I decided to start reading my way out of my own limited knowledge/experience and, boy, what a relief.
A Silly Fear* January 3, 2016 at 2:25 pm Thank you for the advice. I think I will try to look up on books in the subject matter related to my fears. I also fear about what if something comes up that I am not prepared for, such as a child being mad or had a tantrum in front of me. Can I just walk away from the situation, and try to ask another adult to supervise her instead?
Not So NewReader* January 3, 2016 at 6:01 pm Yes, please do that. Matter of fact, a very good move would be to look for the parent. ” “Susie’s Mom, I am not sure how you are handling Susie’s upset, so I thought I would step back and let you do what you think is best.” What is very handy here, is that most parents do not want you parenting their kid. This meshes well with your point, you don’t want to parent their kid. So acknowledging that the parent knows what to do better than you do, would get you out of the situation and make the parent happy that you are not pretending to parent their child.
A Silly Fear* January 3, 2016 at 7:10 pm What if the parent is not present, but another supervising adult, like a teacher or program assistant. Do I do the same thing when one of their students is upset?
Not So NewReader* January 4, 2016 at 8:44 am Yep. That is a good plan. Matter of fact, you can ask the teacher or program assistant how they expect you to handle stuff. When you get into the parts that you don’t feel you can handle, tell them something to the effect of, “I think I will need you to help me with this part because I have absolutely zero experience in handling it.” The beauty of this is that you can watch them and copy what they do. A good thing to do is prep. Know what the rules of the classroom/other setting are. Start with learning what behaviors are totally unacceptable. What happens when a kid does Unacceptable Behavior? Nail that down first. Then work on the grey areas. There’s lots of grey areas. Find out how much is expected out of you and where your responsibilities end.
Doodle* January 3, 2016 at 7:45 pm Yes! You can. You really can. I mean, not if you’re the sole babysitter or a kindergarten teacher, but if you’re talking to a kid at a social event or attending a school function, you are not the person in charge. Find the person who is in charge (parent, teacher, etc.) and ask for help. No reasonable parent would expect otherwise.
Stephanie* January 3, 2016 at 12:48 pm I’ve worked a lot with kids (mostly high school students). Biggest things I found helped was to be confident about your subject matter and to not talk down to the kids.
Viking* January 3, 2016 at 1:24 am I need advice. I’m leaving a toxic job in a very small field. My boss (in toxic job) was incredibly passive aggressive throughout my tenure there. I’d ask her numerous times for feedback and I was open about improving our relationship…she’d respond positively (as in things are great with us) and then a week later, throw me under the bus to senior management (this little cycle is what led me to ask consistently for feedback on what I may need to improve on)…well her passive aggressive sabotage efforts led me to just stop trying to work on our relationship. I’m leaving now for a much better job. Friends suggest I should try to smooth things over because it’s such a small field and outside of our office, my boss has a solid reputation. But…I’m not so inclined to go out of my way because of her passive aggressive behavior…her whole MO is like, “No I have no problem with you whatsoever…you’re great!!… .” I don’t know what “smoothing things over” would look like, especially since I’ve gone to her on at least three occasions to discuss how I can improve personally (if I ever was doing anything that rubbed her the wrong way) and explicitly discuss our relationship so….I feel like I should just do my work and leave for my new job with no new efforts which might cause drama. Thoughts?
Anonymous Educator* January 3, 2016 at 1:42 am I’m going to disagree with your friends here for two reasons: 1. Even though it’s great to have a former manager as a reference, you were clearly able (even in your very small field) to get a new job without her as a reference (or, if I missed something in your post that she actually was a reference—clearly not so awful a one as to prevent you from getting a job). 2. Again, if you wanted her as a reference for the future (could be a moot point, since you already have a new job, and you could use your new manager as a reference and leave out your former manager), she has a history already of throwing you under the bus, so I wouldn’t trust her anyway, even if she said things were “smoothed over.” Apart from her being a potential reference (again?) in the future, I don’t see why you should make any extra new efforts. It’s a toxic job. You’re leaving. Celebrate! I left a toxic job not so long ago. My manager wasn’t quite as sabotaging as your boss, but still would throw me under the bus. Even though my manager agreed to be a reference, I left him off my list and was still able to get a job (I had three other references I knew would be glowing, even with tough questions).
Sherm* January 3, 2016 at 2:48 am + 1. Giving 2 weeks notice, working through those 2 weeks professionally, writing down passwords she may need, *maybe* even a quick mini-training manual for your replacement, is the way to end on a high note and to give her respect (however much or little she deserves it). You’ve tried before to repair the relationship, and I don’t think the chances of success are any higher now (and may be lower — she might think “Why should I be nice? Viking is quitting anyway.”)
Viking* January 3, 2016 at 9:20 am Thanks! Ugghz, It just sucks because this is the second toxic job and it’s a small field so…UGGHZ! I didn’t use her as a reference and I have the same reservations you named which if she’s so passive aggressive that I can’t trust her
Ruffingit* January 3, 2016 at 11:11 am There is nothing to be done here. You cannot “smooth things over” with someone who has these problems. She is never going to be open to a genuine and real working relationship hence why you had to leave in the first place. Give two weeks notice, work diligently through to the end, write down things that will be useful to your replacement, and leave. That is all you need to be concerned with here.
Not So NewReader* January 3, 2016 at 12:18 pm Right on. You can’t have a relationship with a liar. Your boss lies to you, I understand it’s PA behaviors but it is also out and out lying. Be your professional best self like Sherm describes above here, so that you can know that your behavior was on track. And know inside your mind that you cannot fix habitual liars.
Viking* January 3, 2016 at 12:30 pm I’m concerned about the reference end. My job before was also toxic and I don’t have a good reference there and now I can’t use this boss as a reference. And everyone wants a supervisor reference rather than a coworker reference in my experience
Observer* January 3, 2016 at 12:46 pm The problem is that you really CANNOT “smooth this over”, because this is not in any way about you and what you have done. The one thing you can do is follow Sherm’s script. IF she is in a good mood when called for a reference, this will influence her positively. Also, it makes a difference for the other people there, who could have influence down the line.
Viking* January 3, 2016 at 2:11 pm Thanks observer. Just curious what do you mean it makes a difference for the other people there. ..?
Observer* January 3, 2016 at 9:00 pm @Viking what I mean is that unless they have fallen totally under her spell, they will see whether you flake out, act professionally or go above and beyond (at a reasonable level, of course) to minimize the fall out for the people who are left. You don’t know who is going to mention you to them, and you don’t know where you might meet up again. But, if this is a small field, odds are that you ARE going to bump up again, and it will be to your benefit if those people remember “Oh Viking? She was awesome. When she left she did a,b and c and it make our lives so much easier.” And what you DEFINITELY do NOT want is “Her? Yeah. She just blew out the door and didn’t even leave a list of her projects and pending deadlines. Oh, and she forgot to take the passwords off of all of her project files and contact lists.”
Not So NewReader* January 3, 2016 at 6:16 pm Yeah, that is tough. In one situation I got a big boss to agree to be a reference. In another situation, I got my immediate supervisor to agree to be a reference. And that helped to circumvent the toxic boss. Look at it this way, you got this new job with these two toxic bosses as part of your resume, in all likelihood, you will get another job in the future in spite of two toxic bosses. I think your friends are overthinking your situation. The proof is in the pudding- you HAVE a NEW JOB- yippee!- so in years to come you will have this new job plus the last two toxic bosses on your resume. Here’s something else to consider- people move on. Your toxic bosses may run away to the Bahamas or get hit by a bus and you will have worried for nothing. You say your industry is small. It’s reasonable to assume that other people may already know you worked for jerks. I am leaning toward this idea because you have already proven you CAN get a new job. I think your solution is to be professional right up to your last day and then go enjoy your new job! Your friends may mean well, but I don’t think they are helping you by pounding on this point that may or may not ever be an issue.
NicoleK* January 3, 2016 at 3:46 pm Do your work, be professional, do what you can to help with the transition, and be pleasant with the remainder of your time there. At this point in the game, there’s nothing you can do to change your relationship with ex-boss. So it’s pointless to “smooth” things over.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 7:57 pm I think your instincts are spot-on. And who knows–she’s happy to throw you under the bus to her boss because it helps her right there. Once you get out to other companies, she probably won’t have any reason to badmouth you; that will really only make her look bad. You don’t ever need to rely on her as a reference, so don’t, for Anonymous Educator’s reasons. But people may spontaneously ask her about you, and right now I don’t see any upside to you bringing the whole thing up. Just assume that if asked by someone who is not her boss, she’ll say reasonable things about you. I say, be blissfully ignorant, and act as though she was happy with your work (after all, that’s what she said, right?) and wishes you well. Act as though that’s true. And eventually it probably will be (even if you still are always aware of how she treated you).
Anon for Today* January 3, 2016 at 2:47 pm I’ve been reading AAM for awhile but never posted. Hoping to get some ideas / insights from the community. For awhile now, I’ve been struggling with friend loneliness. I have a good loving relationship with my husband, and we do a lot of things together. But I really miss having a close woman friend. I’ve never been the type to have a huge circle of close friends, but over the years, I have had a series of “best” friends (I am in my early 50s). As circumstances changed for me or the friend (such as friend getting married and having kids or one of us moving away), those friendships have slowly withered away, but usually another friendship would develop within a few years. This time, though, it’s been a long time, and I really miss that connection. The problem is that I just can’t figure out a way to meet a new friend. In the past, I have formed friendships at school or work. Work isn’t an option – I am in a high level executive role (think COO) in a smallish company in which it is just me between owners and staff. So no “same level” options. It is also a highly niche industry so no ability to network or meet people that way. Add to all of this that all my life, I have struggled with depression and anxiety which makes it hard for me to develop deeper relationships. I’m fine at the “shallow” stuff, such as small talk with strangers at a party or whatever. But when I try to be more proactive in pursuing an opportunity to deepen the relationship from acquaintances to friends, I am filled with anxiety and self doubt, with thoughts that the person isn’t interested in becoming friends, wouldn’t respond to an invitation to get together, etc. so I usually do nothing and the opportunity passes. So I have two problems: how to meet people and how to then pursue friendships. BTW I have been in therapy this year (not specifically for this, but due to an episode of worsening depression and anxiety) and while it helped me to talk about my feelings, I didn’t find it helpful to actually do anything. I understand many of the root causes (growing up, we moved every year, mid year, so I was constantly the shy new kid thrown into already established cliques), but understanding why doesn’t really help me change.
Viking* January 3, 2016 at 3:29 pm What about getting more involved in your alumni circle from your alma mater? That would be a good start….sort of professional but also similar educational background and you can share memories….”same level”
Anon for Today* January 3, 2016 at 4:10 pm I was a non-traditional student – I got my BA in Lit over the course of about 20 years accumulating units from several universities and then ultimately finishing thru an online program of a progressive non-profit university (brick and mortar is across country from me). My masters (in a completely unrelated field) was also thru a mostly online program of a state university. Based on therapist’s advice, I did join a cooking-related meetup earlier this year and went to one meetup, which I really enjoyed. But shortly after, it was dissolved when the organizer moved out of state. I’ve been looking another meetup option, or possibly starting my own. I love cooking, nice restaurants, etc, so thought maybe that would be a good way to at least meet others with common interests to mine.
Treena* January 3, 2016 at 4:41 pm Usually when meet-ups dissolve like that, everyone wants to continue but they don’t want the responsibility of coordinating. Is that something you’re up for? That position also essentially forces you to communicate with more folks.
Anon for Today* January 3, 2016 at 8:42 pm I actually considered it, but the problem is that, when the founding member left, someone else took over and made major changes that alienated most of the members, and pretty much caused everyone to quit the group, and so she finally quit also. Seems like the bridge has been burned there. I am thinking of starting my own food and dining meetup group instead. I am good at planning and organizing, and I think this would give me greater interaction with more people than just being a member of a group.
Mallory Janis Ian* January 3, 2016 at 7:09 pm What about a women’s professional networking group or a Meetup group about dining out, wine tasting, book club, etc.?
NicoleK* January 3, 2016 at 4:20 pm This is fairly common problem: meeting people and turning acquaintances into friendships. Do you have former colleagues that you’re interested in reconnecting with? For me, it made sense for me to put extra effort in sustaining relationships with colleagues and former colleagues.
Not So NewReader* January 3, 2016 at 6:43 pm This is kind of counter-intuitive so I am sharing it. I felt that I wanted a BFF. I had lost track of my old friends when I moved out of state. Time marched on and I never really did much about it because family-health-jobs-house. When the dust all settled, I found that what I truly enjoy is a larger group of – acquaintances almost*- with a wide range of interests and activities. I was surprised to find that I wanted people who were doing things as opposed to people who were searching for the meaning of life. *While I still do not have a BFF, I have a group of people that I love and I am pretty sure they love me. I talk to person X about my house problems, person Y about my dog problems and person Z about my car problems and so on. Each person has something to contribute to my life, and I hope I am contributing to theirs in some way. I have found this makes my life very rich because of the broad range of things that come into my life. As you are saying, I consider myself to be fairly introverted, so I was surprised by all this. I think you live in a small community. Look around and find something to volunteer for, small communities are always looking for volunteers. If you are so inclined now is a good time to join a church, if this is a workable thing for you. And lastly, find out what recurring activities are going on in your community and pick one. Maybe you decide to go to town meetings or maybe you decide to see if you can help out at the firehouse somehow. Shared volunteer work and community concerns do help to start to form bonds with people. It’s definitely not a instant thing and will take time.
Jean* January 3, 2016 at 7:36 pm >If you are so inclined now is a good time to join a church, if this is a workable thing for you. >Shared volunteer work and community concerns do help to start to form bonds with people. >It’s definitely not a instant thing and will take time. Yes to both of Not So NewReader’s suggestions and her (his?*) observation that it takes time for interpersonal connections to form. I also agree with his (her?*) comment to only affiliate with a religious community “if this works for you.” (Some congregations offer different points of connection beyond attending religious services–such as helping on a social service project or joining the monthly book club–but if organized religion isn’t your preference, there’s no need to make yourself suffer by going to less-obviously-Religious-activities. There are other ways to find like-minded people!) Groups of people cohere when members share geography (town meeting, firehouse, public library); interests or passions (knitting, woodworking, model train assembly, political parties or specific national or local causes…everything from helping children in other countries to Clean Up the Local, Polluted Lake NOW!); or simply being similar life stages (PTA, parents of kids on a sports team) or circumstances ranging from happy (dog owners meeting at the local dog park) to challenging (people facing serious illness or learning how to parent a child with a mild or serious special need). There’s a lot to be said for the value of simply showing up to XYZ event or activity on a regular basis. After a while people start to get to know each other beyond the immediate shared activity: How’s your mom doing after her heart attack? Did the insurance company finally fix your roof damage after the ice storm? etc. It may seem hard to break in (and if this feeling persists, find another group) but often it only takes reaching out to one other person who seems on the sidelines. You don’t have to do it all at once or make an instant transition from solitary/self-sufficient to super social butterfly. In fact, you don’t ever have to become a super social butterfly. Think of it as learning another set of skills and go at a pace you find comfortable. Over time even casual acquaintances can become significant connections just because “we had kids together in kindergarten” or “we stayed up all night together in the snowstorm of 2010 making sure that all of our town’s senior citizens had salt on their front paths.” Most people enjoy building connections. Everyone doesn’t have to become best friends with everyone else, but it’s nice to feel that one’s existence matters and that one has become part of other peoples’ personal histories in some fashion. * Not So NewReader, I’m not 100% certain of your gender. No offense intended.
Not So NewReader* January 4, 2016 at 8:48 am No offense taken! ;) You can’t tell by my user name. I’m female.
Not So NewReader* January 4, 2016 at 9:05 am “Everyone doesn’t have to become best friends with everyone else, but it’s nice to feel that one’s existence matters and that one has become part of other peoples’ personal histories in some fashion.” Wanted to add, this!, this! The feeling of being connected and being interwoven into the community is sometimes more valuable than a BFF. It can give you a sense of purpose that you can’t get anywhere else. It’s nice to walk down the street and know people’s names or wave to a passing car. There is more than one way to feel anchored in this world, for sure. I wildly underestimated how satisfying it is to simply meet and know more people. Oddly, I learned this lesson backwards. I watched my father age and he lost many, many people out of his life. It was profoundly sad, to me, to watch this process. I realized his mistake. He failed to add new people to his life, so that made the losses even larger. Not that people are direct one for one replacements of each other, but rather, each person you meet brings something a little different into your life that you never would have had any other way. And that, in my mind, is true wealth.
TootsNYC* January 3, 2016 at 8:21 pm In with these ongoing things–give them time to work. Go because you decided it’s mildly interesting (or very interesting, or philosophically important to you). Then accept each and every “let’s get a drink after” thing that comes around–and create a couple yourself. And then see. Observe. And at the next meeting make it a point to sit by, or work by, whoever caught your interest. Build slow. I think there’s a real market for a “friend dating” service!
Anon for Today* January 3, 2016 at 8:33 pm I love this idea for a “friends dating” service! I actually met my husband on Match.com at age 40, when I’d almost become resigned to never marrying. I’d sign up for a friends version in a heartbeat :)
Not So NewReader* January 4, 2016 at 8:54 am As an aside to OP, a good rule of thumb is that most people will only invite you to do something with them 2-3 times at most. If you catch yourself saying no twice, the ball is in your court to pick something interesting to do with the person. They have indicated they are interested in hanging with you, so it’s just a matter of what activity to do together.
Anon for Today* January 3, 2016 at 8:30 pm I’m actually in a very large sprawling urban area, which makes it harder to meet people. Everyone seems to rush, rush, rush, don’t know your neighbors, barely enough time for existing friends and family (much less connect with new people). I spent my 30s in a small community which was difficult in some ways (dating, career progression) but was actually easier in regards to meeting friends. That being said, your point about cultivating several friends to meet different needs makes a lot of sense. Joining a religious community isn’t for me (I have religious faith, but have no interest in formal regular observance), but I agree that finding something to become involved with on a regular basis would be a good way for me to at least get out there and meet new people.
Rubyrose* January 3, 2016 at 10:24 pm My sister expressed the same concern – she was missing women friends in her life. She did not go to college, so a traditional sorority was out. She did, however, connect with a national group that calls itself a sorority but is just a group of women that come together for friendship. They meet once a month, typically around 10 members in a group. Their meetings were programs put together by group members. They would typically do some volunteer/community service during the year and at times would have events that would include their significant others. As a prospective member, you would attend the meetings for I think 6 months before they would vote on inviting you permanently into the group. Of course, that gives you time to check them out also. She was a member for around 15 years, before she felt she outgrew the group and dropped out. She had become close friends with several of the women and still stays in contact with them today. I did a search on adult sororities, and came up with several names. Hers was Beta Sigma Phi.
Bowserkitty* January 5, 2016 at 10:09 am Shoot, I missed this by several days. :( I was home sick ALL holiday weekend! And I was the only one providing coverage at work last week, so I finally let myself take a sick day yesterday knowing everybody was back in the office. Happy New Year to me, I hope starting it off with boxes of tissues isn’t a bad omen.