weekend free-for-all – July 29-30, 2017 by Alison Green on July 29, 2017 This comment section is open for any non-work-related discussion you’d like to have with other readers, by popular demand. (This one is truly no work and no school.) Recommendation of the week: Nicole Cliffe (of Toast fame) is writing an advice column for Elle, and it’s so good. She’s also doing Game of Thrones recaps there. Read everything here. You may also like:all my 2016 book recommendationsall my 2015 book recommendationsshould an admin show people how to do clerical tasks themselves? { 1,151 comments }
Miso* July 29, 2017 at 2:48 am Huh? I’m utterly confused the open thread is up so early… Not that I’m complaining! Was at my cousin’s wedding yesterday, which was really great, but man, I did not sleep enough… I guess that’s the disadvantage of staying at a hotel and not just going home. And I don’t even drink. I don’t wanna imagine what it’d be like with a hangover now…
Al Lo* July 29, 2017 at 2:49 am Today (Saturday, although it’s still Friday night since I haven’t gone to bed yet…) is National Lipstick Day. MAC is giving away free lipstick at every store and every MAC counter, while supplies last — looks like both U.S. and Canada. I think I saw Australia listed somewhere, too, but can’t confirm. It looks like it’s a totally free giveaway — no “with purchase” or sample size; just while supplies last. I’m heading to my nearest mall (with two MAC counters) in the morning to try my luck. So… if you need a new lippie, today might be your lucky day?
Chocolate Teapot* July 29, 2017 at 6:00 am I’ll have a look in the MAC shop today. Also, it’s 25% off everything in my local Sephora. I have become a huge fan of Benefit and Bare Minerals, so I always stock up on a discount day.
Artemesia* July 29, 2017 at 2:39 pm I love minerals and wish I could wear them; they look so great on many women. On me I go from being an old lady whose skin looks amazingly young for her age to an old crone. The stuff puts 10 years on me immediately.
Ego Chamber* July 30, 2017 at 3:40 am I know, right? I’m only in my 30’s but something about them just settle in every tiny line—not immediately for me, but like within an hour (stealth crone!). Maybe I am using the wrong kind of brush? Wrong moisturizer? Wrong finishing spray (am I supposed to use finishing spray)? But at that point I’ll just go back to the foundation I have that works, so.
Audiophile* July 29, 2017 at 7:39 am I used to love MAC products, but have mainly used Origins now. I need to restock my makeup, everything is expired at this point. If it’s truly MAC counters as well I could probably swing by Macy’s or Bloomingdale’s (I forget which store carries them now) at some point today.
Shayland* July 29, 2017 at 9:42 am Oooo Fun! I finally tracked down a black lip stick which has completed my little collection, so I’m good. I love that there is a thing called lipstick day in the first place and that Mac is giving away free lip sticks to celebrate.
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 12:19 pm I have a friend who went! Unfortunately seems the lines and cutting in lines were pretty frustrating! Good luck to those who go!
Artemesia* July 29, 2017 at 2:40 pm I have reached the time of life where no small savings is worth waiting in a long line.
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 6:17 pm I’m getting there too. Though I’ve always felt it’s not so bad with a friend and the right mindset.
salad fingers* July 30, 2017 at 11:54 am Oh, so same. I think we’re in the same city – I was close to the Michigan Avenue Mac store so I strolled by to scope out the scene. The line was basically from Ohio to the river, three or four people wide, leading into a tiny store. The time and anxiety of that experience is not worth $18 for me anymore.
Optimistic Prime* July 29, 2017 at 12:50 pm I love Mac makeup and especially Mac lipstick. I was going to say I am too lazy to go this Saturday morning, but I just realized most of the Mac stores/counters aren’t even open yet (it’s not even 10 am here on the West Coast). I have to be in a shopping center with a Macy’s in it later, so I’ll check and see if they have any left by then!
Al Lo* July 29, 2017 at 1:39 pm I was in line about 10 minutes before the mall opened and there were about 50 or 60 people ahead of me. The line moved quickly, and people were super respectful and chill. There was still quite a bit of selection when I got into the store, but there were a few colors that were already gone. The staff said that it was kind of based on what each store had in stock from that particular line. The mall I went to has a MAC store and a counter, so out of curiousity, after I got mine from the store, I checked the counter in the Bay, and they had no line but only 3 colors left — a green, a grey, and an orange — but the clerk there said that they hadn’t had as much stock to begin with. No idea if they had a line when they opened. I would also imagine that the busier stores would have had more stock to start with, but would probably have had longer lines.
Ophelia Bumblesmoop* July 31, 2017 at 11:50 am I drove by a few different stores that sell MAC and there were 40+ people in line half an hour before the store opens. I don’t love their lipstick that much!
Cristina in England* July 29, 2017 at 3:02 am On holiday in Scotland right now. Forgot how wet it is in the West of Scotland. Even though I lived here for 8 years coming back with kids is totally different. We are visiting all of the parks and playgrounds and railway stations and rivers. We have so much stuff with us we drove instead of taking the train. Most useful thing learned on this trip: Dramamine works.
Not Another Non Profit Manager* July 29, 2017 at 3:10 am I grew up on the West coast… I don’t miss wet summers one tiny bit. But I absolutely do miss Glasgow and the ability to escape to the middle of nowhere and walk up a mountain. The Riverside Museum is amazing (especially with kids I’m told)
Cristina in England* July 29, 2017 at 7:22 am We went there today, and it was a lot of fun with the kids, they liked sitting in the subway and tram cars, and they really loved the interactive fire engine game. There is also a big sandbox outside near the picnic tables for the summer, complete with buckets and spades.
Akcipitrokulo* July 29, 2017 at 10:01 am The Glasgow Science Centre is great for kids. .. especially if it’s wet!
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 9:57 am Jelly! One of my bucket list items was to visit Loch Ness and Urquhart Castle, which I got to do in 2014 (I even climbed to the top of the castle). I used to have this daydream that when I got married, my husband and I would honeymoon there and stay alone in a small cottage overlooking the loch. I’m a bit disappointed I had to go alone and not stay over, so I put that in Secret Book, where it will survive the extensive rewrite if I ever get around to it. And I’m not ruling that out as an IRL thing to do. ;)
Not Another Non Profit Manager* July 29, 2017 at 3:07 am Relationships: my marriage is coming to a slow, very amicable end because I’m pretty much exclusively attracted to women now. There’s been no cheating or lying from either party because we’ve never been monogamous and have been talking about emerging issues since they started to become apparent. We’re both doing therapy but I’ve made my peace and grieved a lot while my OH is still working through it, probably because it’s not an issue inside his head! When we separate how do we frame this to loved ones and the world at large when no party is to blame, and we still care very deeply for each other? I’d rather not have to out myself a million and one times because I’m not sure what label I’d use, and it’s not always relevant.
glor* July 29, 2017 at 3:16 am I use “our lives just took different paths” or something approximating that. I feel it gives that sense of “nothing happened, we just don’t work out together” without having to spell it out like that. No outing required.
Myrin* July 29, 2017 at 3:48 am There’s a German expression called “sich auseinander leben” which is the perfect (and even kinda stereotypical) way to describe what you describe here – although that doesn’t really help you if you’re not German! Anyway, it means “going about living your life and drifting apart while doing so” which I think is a pretty honest assessment that doesn’t put blame on one party or the other, so maybe something like that?
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 12:55 pm Some couples grow together and some couples grow apart. I think this is an accurate description for what happened here.
Not Another Non Profit Manager* July 30, 2017 at 5:20 am I love this a lot as it’s pretty perfect. Thank you. We got married super young (as in I was still at uni young) and have grown up together but over time people change.
Nic* July 29, 2017 at 4:40 am With my “good ex”, where it ended well and we still cared about each other, but it just wasn’t right we said just that. “Sometimes love isn’t enough. No one did anything wrong, we just didn’t work the way we had once thought we might.” My experience is that the questions quickly dry up because no drama is boring.
Isobel* July 29, 2017 at 6:34 am Some friends who had a very amicable split just said “we realized we were better as friends than as a couple”. I agree if there’s no drama people are less likely to pry.
Ego Chamber* July 30, 2017 at 3:49 am This is the best answer. Clarify, if needed, that no one did anything wrong and no one was the bad guy. These things happen. It sucks for a while because a relationship ending is a relationship ending no matter what the circumstances are, but you’re both better off. (I’m stupidly happy whenever I hear about amicable separations, because they are underrepresented in life and I like believing that they can eventually be normalized, instead of the other way being the only way people ever expect it to happen.)
DArcy* July 30, 2017 at 12:48 pm I definitely wish my ex would realize that. I don’t hold it against her too much because I was her first relationship, but she pretty much decided that I *had to* be the bad guy because she didn’t think *she* did anything wrong. The reality was simple incompatibility, but she apparently didn’t believe a “no fault breakup” is a thing. (I mean seriously, claiming I was emotionally abusive because I /didn’t hit her/ when we argued and that meant I didn’t really care?)
Jessica* July 29, 2017 at 1:51 pm “Our relationship evolved into a good friendship. So we feel right that we should be friends, but not that we should be married.”
Child of Divorce* July 29, 2017 at 2:10 pm I think just telling people it was a mutual ending should be enough. My parents divorced when I was a baby and it was very clean because they still cared about each other, they just realized they were better as friends than husband and wife. When I tell people my history and mentioned their divorce, saying it was mutual and they’re all still on great terms years later, no one questions it further.
Artemesia* July 29, 2017 at 2:41 pm ‘The relationship just ran its course. He is a great guy but we are just heading in different directions.’
Stellaaaaa* July 29, 2017 at 6:33 pm What you say (or don’t) say now might have some impact down the line once you’re openly dating women. It’s not anyone’s business per se, but people are going to figure it out eventually so I’d avoid giving any kind of explanation that wouldn’t make sense a year from now. Like whatever you say now, that’s not going to stop people from using their eyes and inferring that your sexuality is what ended the marriage. Unless you intend to never ever reveal any future same-sex relationships to anyone? If my friend told me something vague and then I found out she started dating women, I would wonder why she didn’t just tell me. And forgive me (as you know the situation better than I do) but if your husband is struggling with this and would prefer to stay married, I think you might want to consider holding off on the “it was totally mutual” or “we still love each other but are moving in different directions.” That doesn’t give him a lot of space to grieve the loss of his marriage or to even tell the truth about what really happened.
Not Another Non Profit Manager* July 30, 2017 at 5:27 am Whatever we land on will be led by him – for exactly that reason. There’s no timeline at the moment because we’re working through all the things and talking a lot about where we both are. I don’t have an issue with people inferring from my future relationships that that’s the reason we broke up however don’t want to eclipse ‘we’re separating and it’s sad but we’re still very good friends and care deeply for each other’ with ‘ta da I’m a great big lesbian’. I’ll tell people in person if they ask but it’s not necessarily a thing for work (where it doesn’t matter what gender I’m attracted to) or with extended family or less-close friends.
nonymous* August 1, 2017 at 1:55 pm While I agree that “totally mutual” may be over pollyanna-ing the situation, I do think that for acquaintances the phrasing that “we still love each other but are moving in different directions” is factually valid. OP is clearly moving on a tangential (orthogonal?) path to the one OH is on. There is no judgement in that statement and it clearly communicates the type of verbal support that OP is looking for while setting a clear boundary. If I were a less-close acquaintance to OP, it’s likely that my primary interest is how to accommodate OP during this difficult transition – the details are really not my business. While I haven’t personally brushed up against OP’s situation, I have noticed when someone vents extreme detail during this process the listener can get dropped/avoided once the divorce is processed emotionally. That is sad when it happens during friendships, but when this happens in a professional setting it can have severe negative consequences for the listener’s career.
NacSacJack* July 31, 2017 at 5:42 pm Coming out to family and friends will definitely be all the explanation needed, but will generate lots of questions. Your husband may need/want to get involved in the “Straight Spouses” support group. It’s always tough to break up or end a marriage, but this is when it is completely incompatible and you both want the other person to be happy.
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 3:59 am I’m in New Zealand! And settling in. I miss Boston a lot – specifically, I miss being surrounded by driven academic people and the seasons here aren’t as defined. But it’s super nice and hilly here and even more walkable than Boston, which is lovely.
Scarlettnz* July 29, 2017 at 6:52 am Welcome. From memory you came to the town where I live. It’s been absolutely freezing here these last few weeks. Hope you are settling in ok.
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 7:38 am Thanks! The weather’s really not too bad, compared to Boston! Everyone’s been really nice!
Kathenus* July 29, 2017 at 12:33 pm I’m so jealous. I visited the South Island a few years back and loved Dunedin. Make sure to check out the albatrosses, penguins, and sea lions!
NZ Muse* July 29, 2017 at 8:45 pm Welcome!! Coldest night of the year apparently :O Hope you’re rugged up and keeping cosy!
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 11:50 pm So far yes! The cold hasn’t gotten me down at all (plus there’s all this lovely chocolate to eat to keep me warm – I haven’t had crunchy sweets in forever and the Hokey Pokey is amazing!)
NZ Muse* July 29, 2017 at 8:46 pm Welcome!! Coldest night of the year apparently :O Hope you’re rugged up and keeping cosy!
Mary (England)* July 29, 2017 at 4:43 am I have a minor personal dilemma which I’m unsure about and it’s basically to do with going vegetarian, and what to do about certain things I already have in my home (basically, sheepskin rugs). First, some background: I’ve only been ‘properly’ vegetarian since near the beginning of this year. That is, I don’t eat meat or fish. I’ve adopted a casual approach to certain things – for example, if I am in the supermarket, I will buy vegetarian cheese, and I do a bit of home brewing without using isinglass finings, etc. However, If I am out in a restaurant or pub, I will not start quizzing staff there or going on a mission to find out if the cheese was made using rennet etc, and will accept that most beer is not strictly vegetarian (because of the finings) and not worry about it. This ‘level’ of vegetarianism is in line with some of my closer friends, or people I socialise most with – with some people I know being stricter (eg. about the cheese, beer, or sweets [gelatin], etc situation), and some being even more casual than me (eg. some who eat fish so don’t care about finings). Despite only being a ‘proper’ vegetarian for a short amount of time, this isn’t a random sudden new change for me. I’ve actually been going gradually vegetarian over the last good chunk of years. I stopped eating red meat at uni (about 6 years ago) and was a chicken-and-fish eater for a while. About 2 years ago I stopped chicken and have been one of those vegetarians-who-eats-fish from then until this year. I say this only to give context that I didn’t wake up one morning in February and suddenly throw all my chicken wings out the window or something. Incidentally, I have no intention to become vegan and I’m probably not going to ‘continue’ further down the apparent path I seem to have been taking with this. My dilemma is that I own 2 sheepskin rugs and a sheep-wool rug (on a woven mat background) which I have become increasingly uncomfortable about recently. But also reluctant to get rid of and I’m not sure how I feel about them. One of the sheepskins and the mat-rug was a gift (both from my mother on different years for my birthday), while the other sheepskin came from a charity shop. I’ve had them all for at least several years, and the first one from before I gave up any meat etc. I think I’m tending towards wanting to get rid of them (which I would do by first checking with my family if any of them want them, and next either selling them or giving to a charity shop). But I’m also finding it difficult to do because they’ve been a permanent fixture in my room (over quite a number of house moves) for a good amount of time. As a side note, I do not wish this to descend into a discussion of every piece of leather or wool product I might possibly own. It’s true I also currently own leather shoes and a belt. However, sometimes you have to pick out what you’re going to focus on, like with the cheese/rennet or beer/finings thing. You can’t always do everything. I don’t have the mental energy to consider the ethical value of every item I might currently own right now, but these rugs have jumped out at me as seeming particularly hypocritical to own (being basically a whole dead sheep skin) as a vegetarian which is why I’m considering them right now. Anyway, thoughts on the compatibility of owning sheepskin rugs vs being vegetarian are appreciated.
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 5:04 am I think you get to decide what you want to do. There’s no one right way to be vegetarian – and nobody else gets to decide for you. When I was veggie (which I was for many years) someone had a go at me saying I wasn’t a proper vegetarian as I had xyz. I was like: okay, I’m not a proper vegetarian, I just don’t eat x or do x or do you want me to go start eating meat again? It’s a spectrum and you get to decide where you want to be.
Ron McDon* July 29, 2017 at 5:05 am Hello, I am also an English veggie, and although I have been vegetarian for about 30 years I also don’t worry about cheese etc whilst eating out etc – I think this may be a peculiarly English thing? I don’t have any sheepskin, but I think my feeling is that if I had these things from a long time ago I wouldn’t nec scarily feel it was ‘un-vegetarian’ of me to keep them? I wouldn’t go out and buy a sheepskin rug now, but I had sheepskin lined winter boots from before turning veggie that I continued to wear after… I think though if I were vegan it would be a no-no, as that is a stricter ‘no animal products’ way of life. At the end of the day though, all that matters is how you feel about keeping/not keeping the rugs :)
Chocolate Teapot* July 29, 2017 at 5:44 am If you are going to get rid of the rugs, it might help if you buy something new to replace them with as soon as possible. That way, you won’t feel there is a hole in the living room where your sheepskin rugs used to be. I’m not saying buy a new, non-animal rug for the sake of it, but perhaps a wall hanging or picture?
Mary (England)* July 29, 2017 at 6:51 am Yeah I think that would be a good idea. I was thinking of looking through charity shops etc for fluffy non animal rugs, especially something colourful and maybe will get rid of the sheep ones once I find something nice to go in their place..
Annie Mouse* July 29, 2017 at 2:01 pm Not a charity shop but Dunelm Mill has some fantastically fluffy rugs (particularly their teddy bear range) that aren’t bank breaking. Although it depends on what you’re looking for and what you want to spend :)
JamieS* July 29, 2017 at 4:10 pm I don’t think still eating cheese while vegetarian is a British thing. I’m American and not eating cheese sounds like veganism not vegetarianism to me. Yes I know veganism is a type of vegetarianism but a person can still be considered a vegetarian and eat cheese. As an aside how in the world can someone eat fish and consider themselves a vegetarian? That makes zero logical sense to me.
Mary (England)* July 29, 2017 at 4:20 pm If you’re a vegetarian in medieval England, pretty much any water-dwelling animal is fair game (no pun intended). Geese, beavers, swans… :D
JamieS* July 29, 2017 at 5:13 pm No. You can’t eat meat and be a vegetarian in modern society. The definition of vegetarianism precludes that. It sounds like medieval vegetarians weren’t vegetarians but just people who didn’t eat chicken or beef or horses.
Mary (England)* July 29, 2017 at 5:23 pm Lol, obviously I know that. I was just commenting about how interesting/amusing it is what people considered to be ‘meat’ or not at a different time in history. That said, I once saw a horse swim so I’m pretty sure that counts as a fish too, right ;)
Anion* July 30, 2017 at 2:23 am The joke May was/is making is that in medieval England everyone (the vast majority, anyway) was Catholic, which at the time meant strict rules about when meat could be eaten vs. when it could not (like Lent). Eels and other fish dishes were common during Lent, as were the other meats Mary mentioned, as they did not count as “meat” to the Church and thus could be eaten without sin. I don’t think anyone called themselves “vegetarian” at that point in time. Some might have always abstained from meat, but “vegetarianism” wasn’t a thing.
Ron McDon* July 29, 2017 at 5:05 pm There are speciality vegetarian cheeses, which are processed without calf rennet – calf rennet is an animal product, so really a vegetarian should eat vegetarian cheese. But the chance of finding a vegetarian meal in most U.K. restaurants which has vegetarian cheese are quite slim. When I’m at home I am very strict about eating veggie cheese, not eating anything with gelatine in, but when I eat out if the menu doesn’t specify whether a meat-free it is veggie friendly I don’t always ask.
Ego Chamber* July 30, 2017 at 4:01 am That’s what I thought. I was super-confused, reading this thread and thinking “vegetarian” meant something different in England. In the States, vegetarian is just no meat, all other animal products are on the table. I’ve known vegetarians who wore leather boots because “I didn’t eat the cow, I’m just wearing it!” (but I totally understand not wanting to use animal products for whatever reason and it’s a personal decision).
Mary (England)* July 30, 2017 at 4:50 am I think it might vary a bit by person though I don’t know any/enough America veggies to compare if this is a brit/american split. Most veggies (not vegans) I know would consider both gelatin and rennet to fall under ‘meat’ and be technically out for veggies (who are not vegan), but their level of strictness in avoiding it tends to vary due to how difficult it can sometimes be to know (hence checking no rennet in the supermarket but not worrying in the restaurant etc). I guess the thing making it ‘meat’ is you actually have to kill the animal to get the rennet out of them. I know a couple where one, ‘sarah’ is much stricter than her partner, ‘tom’ about avoiding gelatin. Sarah has been veggie over 20 years (all her adult life). Tom will often eat sweets when offered while Sarah will decline the offer. Sarah will also only eat eggs that have been laid by chickens that are not on farms but owned by friends (we know a few people who have ‘rescue chickens’ – which had been on their way for slaughter) while tom will eat store bought eggs as long as they are free range.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJuly 30, 2017 at 9:46 am Vegan means you don’t eat dairy or eggs either. Vegetarian means you don’t eat any part of an animal’s body, and gelatin is made from bones and rennet is made from stomachs. There are plenty of vegetarians who don’t worry about gelatin or rennet, but avoiding them wouldn’t make you vegan; it would still be vegetarian.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 10:06 am Eating fish and seafood would make you a pescaetarian. A lot of them also eat eggs and dairy (lacto-ovo vegetarian). If I were to give up meat, this is probably what I would do. I could never be vegan and I don’t want to give up dairy or fish. It’s just whatever you want to do.
Catclaws* July 29, 2017 at 5:23 am My two cents: if you feel uncomfortable, get rid of them. If not, keep them. If you choose the latter, you’re under no obligation to justify your decision. I’m a lifelong vegetarian, and am ashamed to say that I have twice purchased such rugs thoughtlessly. So I applaud the fact that you’re being so mindful.
Colette* July 29, 2017 at 7:01 am The sheep no longer need their skins, I mean, if you want to get rid of the rugs, go ahead, but you’re not harming animals by keeping them, so if you want to keep them for the sentimental value, do so.
Nic* July 29, 2017 at 11:46 pm This was my thought. Continuing to have something that has been a loved possession in the past doesn’t do any new harm to any creature. If it makes you uncomfortable to have them, then don’t. But I don’t think you should feel you have to get rid of them.
Anonyme* July 29, 2017 at 7:09 am Also vegetarian. I generally try to not buy things like a sheep skin, but I don’t throw out things I already have though. I suspect an animal shelter might be able to use them if you do want to get rid of them.
OldMom* July 29, 2017 at 8:02 am I guess it would depend on why you are vegetarian. If you find farming of animals unethical, then it looks hypocritical to have those rugs. Most vegetarians/vegans I know do it for health reasons and not for “animal rights” reasons so the source of rugs, shoes, etc is not a dilemma for them. So I don’t entirely understand the issue. The sheep are already dead, you didn’t kill them and since the sheepskins were gifts, you were not responsible for the economic conditions that led to their deaths. Also, sheep are farm animals and likely would not even exist in their present forms were it not for human farming. They are not endangered, or wild, or hunted and trapped. You might feel better if you could find out if these sheep were raised and then killed “humanely” but then if you find any raising and killing of animals to be inhumane, perhaps there is no category of animal product that you’d be comfortable with. Personally I would see no hypocrisy in a vegan keeping sheepskin rugs when the rugs are “historic” and you didn’t personally slaughter the sheep. My perspective is… The cats love the sheepskin throws so I would keep them for the cats…and if you keep cats, who are meat eaters, you are providing meat for someone in your household anyway, so there is little point in being strictly vegan. You can still be pro animal rights and minimize (rather than eliminate entirely) your use of animal products. Unless your friends are policing your commitment I don’t see the point of throwing out the rugs. Sheep gave their lives for those rugs, might as well appreciate their sacrifice.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJuly 29, 2017 at 1:48 pm Can I take a stab at explaining this? When you stop seeing animals as things we use for food, clothing, etc., it starts becoming more alarming to see them being used that way. It’s hard to have a rug like that around when you’ve started seeing it as visual evidence of animal suffering rather than as a rug. It’s upsetting. And the idea that they gave their lives for it and so you might as well appreciate their sacrifice doesn’t really work when your mindset has changed, just like you wouldn’t want a human skin rug lying around in order to appreciate their sacrifice (which in both cases probably wasn’t made willingly). (Full disclosure: I do have some animal products around now. But I used to be 100% vegan and I remember well how it changed some of the way I saw things. A leather couch was no longer just a couch, etc. You see it more clearly for what it is, and it was disturbing in a way that I don’t think other people fully get.) I definitely do not want to open up a debate about any of this, just wanted to explain where people are often coming from when they want to get rid of this stuff.
atexit8* July 29, 2017 at 2:43 pm You’ve put it very well. I try to be vegan, but I am not. I have leather belts and leather handbags that I still used, but I will never knowingly buy another one. The lives of farmed animals are lives of misery. Just go to a farm animal sanctuary to learn of the suffering of farmed animals, and to see the beauty and innocence of animals.
OldMom* July 29, 2017 at 3:12 pm Thanks, I appreciate the perspective. I meant no disrespect to this point of view. The vegetarians I am most familiar with do it for their own health reasons and have not mentioned an increased awareness of animal treatment. Merely wanted to point out that if OP’s problem is feeling hypocritical or being perceived as such, it might depend on the reasons she has expressed for being vegetarian. More of a “don’t worry about it since no one else should judge your choices on that” than a “silly of you to have such silly feelings.” My apologies if it came across as the latter.
Mary (England)* July 29, 2017 at 3:47 pm Thank you, this does explain a bit of what I am feeling. Though obviously I have always known leather is an animal skin etc, I have more and more (recently) begun looking at leather things and literally ‘seeing’ a dead animal having their carcass stretched over something. The truth is that at least part of my vegetarianism is through what is similar to ‘peer pressure’. That is, none of my friends have actively been like “you should be veggie!” but… being surrounded by veggies does make me more aware of when I have consumed meat etc. The majority of vegetarians I know are veggie due to their views on animal rights, not for health reasons. The social group I am part of (who are mostly a bit older than me) includes people who have been (and still are to some extent) involved in hunt sabotage (basically, they get in the way of fox hunts. Fox hunting is illegal now but still goes on. However, they sabbed hunts when hunting was still legal). I am also highly active in a food-waste / food re-distribution charity where the majority of volunteers are either vegetarian or pro-veggie (ie. reduced meat consumption). Anyway, none of my friends have told me I should get rid of the rugs, and I doubt they would. However, I also think that when they see them, they also (like I am starting to) see a dead sheep on my floor. And truthfully, they are people whose opinions matter to me. It’s not good to care too much what ‘other people’ think I guess, but I suppose it makes sense to care about people who are close to you, and who you usually think you share values with… As an aside, I don’t keep cats. I used to have a rabbit though!
JamieS* July 29, 2017 at 4:30 pm Given Mary specifically said she’s keeping other obviously animal products (leather shoes and belt) this doesn’t really make sense to me in this context. Ethically what’s the difference between cow skin and sheepskin? Yes I realize a person can’t do everything at once but in my mind there’s a difference between someone who’s trying to avoid animal products for moral reasons not being able to research if absolutely everything they own, from their phone charger to the tires on their car, is animal free and not being willing to give up things that are clearly animal products. To me that’s like saying you’re giving up steak but will continue to eat all beef burgers. It simply doesn’t make sense. For the record I’m a meat eater and I’m not taking some moral high road. I just don’t see why Mary would give up rugs she likes (I’m assuming) but keep other animal products. To me, the keeping of the leather negates any moral reason for getting rid of the sheepskin. If she still uses animal products and likes the rugs she should keep them. If she doesn’t like the rugs she should get rid of them. This strikes me as a very cut and dry issue.
Ego Chamber* July 30, 2017 at 4:11 am “This strikes me as a very cut and dry issue.” (I see what you did there.) My guess is that a sheepskin rug still looks more like a sheep than a belt or a handbag still looks like a cow, so if you’re starting to be more viscerally aware of what these things are made of, it feels kind of like you’re hanging out at Ed Gein’s house.
Sled dog mama* July 29, 2017 at 9:02 am When I was Vegetarian (before I started raising my own meat) I drew the line at anything that required the animals life end for me to use it. So by my (admittedly arbitrary) standard sheepskin not ok, woven mat-rug ok. I also made the decision that I wasn’t suddenly going to get rid of a bunch of not acceptable things and replace them with acceptable alternatives. That decision was purely economic, I just didn’t have the funds to replace things all at once. I decided that for items I had it was more respectful to the animal’s life to use the item until it needed replacing then replace with a non animal item. I felt this was better than donating or selling because the next person might not feel the same way and whatever the item is might end up thrown out while it still had life. I also have to agree with CatClaws if they make you uncomfortable get rid of them, but I don’t think keeping them makes you any less a vegetarian.
Emily* July 29, 2017 at 9:48 am I know a lot of vegetarians/vegans who will not buy new leather things, but will keep and use old things that they acquired before their shift in ethics. So I think that if you wanted to keep them, then it wouldn’t be incompatible with your current vegetarianism. That said, it sounds like you might feel more comfortable getting rid of them – if that’s the case, I think you should get rid of them (and replace them with different floor coverings that you like, as other commenters are suggesting). Basically, either decision is fine and it mostly depends on what you want to do!
Akcipitrokulo* July 29, 2017 at 10:03 am Veggie here… I think it’s fine to keep because this isn’t a new item. I wouldn’t buy leather new but may buy from charity shop. But if it makes you uncomfortable then it’s ok to get rid as well.
Sibley* July 29, 2017 at 10:07 am I really don’t think this has anything to do with you becoming vegetarian. You don’t want sheepskin rugs in your house anymore. End of story. That’s fine. I eat meat, and I don’t want sheepskin rugs in my house either. Anyone questions you, just say that you realized you didn’t want sheepskin rugs anymore, so you passed them on to someone who did.
Uncivil Engineer* July 29, 2017 at 10:37 am Vegetarianism is spectrum and only you can decide if owning sheepskin rugs is compatible. I am also vegetarian and, several years after I stopped eating meat, I decided to stop buying leather and suede goods. Like several other commenters, I didn’t give away what I already had. I decided that was wasteful but most of them have worn out and been replaced (with a veg-friendly option) by now.
The Cosmic Avenger* July 29, 2017 at 12:22 pm I mean, first of all, you have to decide what you’re comfortable with. For me, items that I’ve had a long time and to which I have a sentimental attachment might get an exemption from anything like that. But if you feel like you want to replace them, try actively seeking replacement rugs, and see if you find something you’d be excited to have. Once you know you want to replace it you can decide what to do with the old one, but offering the nicer gifts ones to family or friends would probably make them easier to part with.
Epsilon Delta* July 29, 2017 at 12:42 pm Oh, interesting timing. I have been vegetarian+fish for the last 7 years but I’m experimenting with eating meat again. So I’m moving in the opposite direction from you and trying to figure out how I feel about that. (weird, mostly) Anyway, to get to your question, I don’t think it’s incompatible at all with being a vegetarian to own leather, sheepskin rugs, etc. It’s a highly individual choice, but my understanding has always been that vegetarians are focused on not eating animal meat (ie focused on the diet), whereas vegans are interested in avoiding animal products in general (diet + consumer goods). If the sheepskin rugs make you uncomfortable you can get rid of them, but I don’t think it’s hypocritical to be a vegetarian with sheepskin rugs.
Anion* July 29, 2017 at 4:01 pm I was a vegetarian for six years, and when I started eating meat again I lost about ten pounds and gained a ton of energy within about a month–I’d never felt “bad” before but suddenly I just felt better. It was weird at first, yeah, and for the first month or two I basically stayed vegetarian at home but ate meat when I went out…but when I realized my clothes were looser, my skin clearer, and my energy levels were up I went all-in. :-) I found it easier to do things like soups at first, too (at home, I mean), or spaghetti sauces with meat, that kind of thing. You can get pre-cooked meats at the grocery store, seasoned or unseasoned, that don’t require you to deal with raw meat. (And beef was way easier to deal with, cooking-wise, than chicken, but that may just be because I’m weird about chicken anyway.) I hope that helps a little! (Note: I’m not saying being vegetarian is unhealthy or anything, I’m just talking about what happened for me personally.)
Tris Prior* July 29, 2017 at 5:39 pm And I had the completely opposite experience! I initially went veg in college for ethical and environmental reasons. I stuck with it because I suddenly developed an immune system. Overnight I went from constantly being sick with every bug that passed through our campus, to getting maybe 1 cold per year, year and a half. This continues to this day. I generally felt better, had more energy, no longer had, ahem, any bathroom issues. I find it fascinating how our bodies are all different and there really is no such thing as a one-size-fits-all diet!
Anion* July 30, 2017 at 2:29 am It is, isn’t it? (Heh, I stopped getting colds etc. after re-introducing meat, too, so yeah, exact opposites!) Our bodies are really amazing.
LCL* July 29, 2017 at 12:42 pm (Emphatically not vegetarian posting.) Box them up and store them for 6 months to a year. Check on how to do it properly so they don’t deteriorate in storage. When they aren’t staring you in the face every day your best path will become clear to you. If you must decide right now, keep the wool rug, give your mom back the skin she gave you and give away the other one to a friend or charity.
Tris Prior* July 29, 2017 at 12:50 pm I think that this is a personal choice; despite what some really hard-core folks might tell you, there is no “right” way to do vegetarianism. I’m much like you – no meat, no fish, eggs and dairy OK, I will buy the vegetarian cheese when I can and if the label states “animal rennet” I won’t buy it but I don’t go nuts doing research if it doesn’t explicitly say. I avoid gelatin mainly because I saw a video of how it’s made and about threw up, but until then I was sort of half-assed about avoiding it. I went veg at 19 and could not afford to replace all my leather shoes and belts, being a poor college student. I just didn’t buy more leather, when what I had started to wear out and I had the cash to replace them. Regarding the rugs – it sounds like you’re uncomfortable with owning them for your own reasons, not just because of “what will people think?” It’s OK to get rid of them. Maybe replace them with something else you like that isn’t animal-based, if you feel like your house is going to look bare without them?
atexit8* July 29, 2017 at 2:47 pm Do you know that male hatched chicks are grind up live because they are useless to the egg industry? Do you know that dairy cows are artificially inseminated so they can produce milk? Once the baby cow is born it is torn from its mother so the process can be repeated again? The males are raised for veal. The females are doomed to the same miserable life as her mother? And when the females are too old to give milk, they are slaughtered. No easy retirement for them.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJuly 29, 2017 at 3:00 pm Hey, I’m with you on all of these facts, but I don’t think the comment you’re replying to warranted the lecture.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 11:36 am It’s just one of those trigger topics for militant veggies/vegans. I got it from someone once on an article about milk because I said I like it. They can’t let it go unremarked on. It’s a bit like evangelicals and Jesus.
Mary (England)* July 29, 2017 at 3:59 pm I know all of those things. I live in a rural part of England and have had some very first-hand experience of dairy farming. I have seen (not on a film or video) how chicks are killed, and the conditions laying hens are kept in. One of my friends stole a tractor when we were teenagers and went for a joy ride. Wait, that bit isn’t relevant… Sometimes you just have to pick your things. Sometimes I recycle stuff, sometimes I get a plastic straw in my drink even though I didn’t need it. You can’t do everything, so maybe I don’t eliminate any impact of animal cruelty from my life, but I can reduce it, and I guess I have to just decide where and how, and how much.
Anion* July 29, 2017 at 4:04 pm It’s great that you care so much about those things. But that doesn’t mean anyone else is required to.
Ron McDon* July 29, 2017 at 5:15 pm Anion, beautifully put. And Atextit8, the way you’ve phrased your comment is not going to persuade people to come around to your viewpoint…
Optimistic Prime* July 29, 2017 at 12:55 pm Well, I think you said it yourself. You have to pick out what you’re going to focus on. You might decide that since you are *now* vegetarian you wouldn’t buy anything that conflicts with that lifestyle, but you won’t get *rid* of the things that you already own.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 1:03 pm Folks here have posted some fantastic advice. The only thing I can think of to add is if you are having a bad time deciding even after reading all this, turn and look at something else in your life that you know you want to change. I find that if I fix up the parts that I am certain about, I can become more clear on previously murky questions. Fix the things you know you want to fix and see where that puts you.
HannahS* July 29, 2017 at 2:07 pm I maintain that it’s a personal choice, especially if you already own the thing. You keep saying “proper vegetarian,” but I don’t know that that’s a helpful concept. Some people would certainly say that owning an animal skin would be tacit approval of its death, but those same people would probably think it’s much worse to continue consuming rennet. Everyone, at some point, needs to throw their hands in the air and say, “Eff-it. This far, and no farther.” If what’s driving you to get rid of them is that you feel uncomfortable having them in your home, then yeah, away they go. But if what’s driving you is that you feel that you can’t really call yourself a vegetarian if you have an animal skin or wool rug in your home, then I think it’s better to let go of the concept of being a perfect vegetarian. People need to balance ethical eating (whether that’s vegetarianism or free-trade or organic or whatever) with the cost, the convenience, their personal relationships, and not being driven crazy.
HannahS* July 29, 2017 at 2:11 pm Sorry, to clarify, what I mean is that other people who would feel it’s their place to criticize you for not being a good enough vegetarian on one dimension are the same people that are likely to criticize you for not being a good enough vegetarian on every dimension.
Mary (England)* July 29, 2017 at 4:13 pm Update: I have ended up with this being resolved today, in fact. I discussed it with some friends and thought about it, and decided if I’m feeling uncomfortable well, I will just keep feeling that way if I keep them and just have something in my house that causes me this type of thinking dilemma. I know a person who really likes this type of thing, and so have contacted them offered them the rugs (they want the hides, but not the woven mat). I know they will enjoy them and appreciate them, and they’re the sort of person who would be likely to buy this type of thing anyway. I looked round some charity shops today (just in general, not with much specific intent) and came across a chest of drawers for £5. Very convenient, so I’ve bought that. The whole reason this came about was at least partly because I’ve been going through all my stuff lately and trying to re-organise and sort of storage solutions so this is very handy. They are going to collect the rugs this week, and I’ve put them in a bag and feel pleased and relieved about the ‘solution’. Thank you for all the comments and various speculations. I will repeat that I am aware that I can’t do ‘everything’ or be a ‘perfect’ vegetarian. There are many things that are difficult to avoid that pose ethical dilemmas for many reasons, whether it’s other types of animal rights (including other animal products, or products tested on animals), as well as human rights (conditions of workers etc), or environmental impact, and so many things. It’s an impossible task to try and eliminate every form of cruelty from life, but I just want to find some places where I can reduce my impact (of whatever it may be) where I can, and work out my feelings on different types of things. I tend to buy re-used items anyway, and a lot of my food is either grown myself (I’m an allotment holder), or by other people I know, and as noted somewhere above, I’m involved in a food waste and distribution charity. I’m also a home-brewer and sometimes the result is a concoction that will cure any problem anyway (ie. it tastes so bad, all your problems will suddenly seem insignificant in comparison. Ever tried onion wine?)
Emily* July 29, 2017 at 4:19 pm I’m glad to hear that you came to a decision that you feel good about!
Not So NewReader* July 30, 2017 at 6:59 am Giving items to friends has solved a few dilemmas in my life. Congrats on finding a happy solution.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 11:38 am It’s an impossible task to try and eliminate every form of cruelty from life, but I just want to find some places where I can reduce my impact (of whatever it may be) where I can, and work out my feelings on different types of things. I think this is a very astute observation. Also, yay for allotments! My cousin in London has one. :)
Saturnalia* July 30, 2017 at 12:41 pm Just throwing this in the discussion, because I have always loved it, the original definition of vegan: “Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose.” As far as is possible and practicable – if your choice is eat animal products or literally starve, eating the animal product so you can live to do more good in the world does not negate your veganism. Anyway, maybe that’s just my read on things, but it makes me feel better about my occasionally laid-back stance on asking detailed ingredient questions in bars and restaurants. As far as is practicable. So I think the “perfect” veg*n is the one who is doing their best and focusing their energy where they are able to do good. I can’t protest, but I can cook delicious vegan food for others. We’ve all accidentally eaten something that we find out later wasn’t as veg*n as advertised. We do what we can, when we can. You’re just great :-)
Mike C.* July 29, 2017 at 4:50 pm I think it would be best for you to treat your approach as “harm reduction” rather than being ideologically pure. You’re current habits are more in line with what you want than those in the past and so on. Being concerned about those rugs feels like being concerned about a hamburger you had years ago – the deed has been done and you can’t do anything to change it. If you get rid of those rugs, those animals will still be dead. So do what you want. If they cause you stress get rid of them, if you like them or even think that using them for years and years is even honorable, then keep them. No one gets to tell you how to be a good person.
Mary (England)* July 29, 2017 at 5:03 pm You don’t have to ‘oops’ after commenting. I appreciate your comment and I agree, it is good to think of it as harm reduction than trying to be ‘pure’. It’s not quite like feeling guilty about an already-eaten burger, as I can’t go back and give the burger to someone else, but I can still pass on the rugs to someone who would want and use them, even though yeah, they’re already dead. But I see your point, and I don’t think it would be wildly unethical if I (or someone else in a similar situation) had decided to keep them. It just ended up not being the right answer for me :D
Essie* July 29, 2017 at 5:03 pm For many people, being vegetarian is about being kind to the planet. Throwing out and replacing something that isn’t worn out goes against that goal. Just something to consider.
Aphrodite* July 29, 2017 at 8:58 pm Animal shelters would love the sheepskins and any other floofy stuff like towels, some bedding.
Observer* July 29, 2017 at 9:52 pm You didn’t buy them, and you didn’t receive them as you switched over. So, I don’t see anything hypocritical. If you think that someone is likely to give such a gift again, it’s worthwhile to let them know that you’ve gone in this direction and would find it uncomfortable – and even politely refuse such a gift if they insist on buying it for you. But, I don’t see what you are trying to accomplish by getting rid of them. Not that there is anything wrong in getting rid of them. Your life changed, and if these rugs don’t fit any more, they don’t fit.
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 5:01 am Happy weekend, all. I’m holed up in an Airbnb with some friends and a pile of board games. We are off to Whitby today, via my friend’s village fete. Hope you all have a good one!
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 6:32 am Thanks! I’m technically half Yorkshire-ish but haven’t spent much time there – am with natives though.
amanda_cake* July 29, 2017 at 6:36 am Last weekend I posted about blogging. So far, I’ve posted a couple of restaurant reviews and a review of my Wunderlist replacement, Todoist. I’m currently considering moving from wordpress.com to wordpress.org and doing the self hosting with my own domain thing. Bluehost has a deal that makes it pretty cheap. They have a partnership with a wordpress help link, so if you go through their referral link you save a small amount. Any advice on the transition, suggested URLs (fallingacorns.com is a comic strip website, should I go with fallingacornsblog.com or fallingacorns15.com? ’15 is my college grad year, which ties into the blog name. Currently, it is fallingacornsblog.wordpress.com), etc.? I do have experience with basic HTML and have used wordpress.org to build a website for a class, so I’m not completely flying in blind.
Optimistic Prime* July 29, 2017 at 12:58 pm I used Bluehost for my website hosting and domain and I really liked it – inexpensive and easy. Were it me, I would try to use something very different from an existing site especially a big one – someone who forgets the blog part and accidentally just types in “falling acorns” will get very confused. But if that’s already your name, then you probably don’t want to change it – so I think I would go with the fallingacorns15, because the number stands out visually and may be easier for people to remember.
King Friday XIII* July 29, 2017 at 2:57 pm Is there a reason you don’t want fallingacorns.net? If you’re worried about being confused with the .com, it’ll probably happen if you take fallingacornsblog.com too. Transitioning from one wordpress blog to another is pretty easy. Export from wordpress.com, import into your new blog once it’s set up. All of your posts and things should come over easily, and then you can put whatever skin on it. I also know there’s a way to do it with databases that’s slightly smoother but to be honest it’s too complicated for me. XD
amanda_cake* July 29, 2017 at 3:30 pm I hadn’t really thought about .net. I don’t think there’s any way to avoid possibly being confused at some point or another. I imagine most of the people who read will add me to a blog reader or will click on the links I share on social media, so I’m not sure how important the handle is. I just think it would be cool to have more power, and some control over the ads that show up on my page. Plus I know I won’t make any money from it, but monetizing the ads would be cool to me because a few pennies is more than I had before. I don’t really know how that works, however, as I have never had a website with ads that I could control.
Anion* July 29, 2017 at 4:12 pm I second the “BlueHost is great!” They’ve hosted my website for years now, and I’ve been very happy with them–I did something tremendously stupid once and had to call their helpline/customer service line, and the guy there was totally cool and helpful and didn’t even let a hint of “Geez, lady, how dumb are you?” color his voice. :-) As for the name, I don’t know what your site is for, but I’d have to recommend trying to find something totally different. The problem with “Fallingacornsblog” is that it sounds like it’s the blog for the Fallingacorns site. (Have you checked domain name ability yet? They might even have those already–I own the domains for a number of iterations of my name, after someone tried to piggyback off me several years ago. So I’d have a few names you’re happy with ready when you go to register your domain name.) Maybe even something like Fallen Acorns–same idea, but at least not the exact same name?
amanda_cake* July 29, 2017 at 7:47 pm I have checked availability, so I know that the two options I through out would work. I will see. I wonder when the World Wide Web will reach the point it is impossible to be unique? Blog/site will be personal for the most part.
AlaskaKT* July 29, 2017 at 7:53 pm No matter who you host with, pay for domain privacy! If you don’t then your phone number and email address end up on a domain registry list and you will get serious amounts of spam offering hosting, logo creation, content writing, etc. And I mean like 15-30 calls a DAY. Source: I made that mistake when starting my blog. P.S. Shameless self promotion here, I’m a bluehost affiliate, so if you do decide to go with them and want to help a fellow blogger out I have a sign up link on my blog (it’s an image advert). I get paid if you use it to sign up. P.S.S. If you use bluehost sign up to be their affiliate, I make 90% of my blog income from them.
amanda_cake* July 30, 2017 at 9:49 pm That is good to know! I like your blog too! Like a lot of folks, I am intrigued by Alaska.
Ego Chamber* July 30, 2017 at 4:31 am If this is weird or creepy, ignore me entirely, but I clicked the url in your name and I was wondering what kind of camera you use for the photos on your blog? You have a really good sense of composition and everything is very well shot. I’m a low-key sort of photo geek and always want to know about details like that. :)
amanda_cake* July 30, 2017 at 9:46 pm Yes, I upgraded recently and plan to review it after my vacation (if I have one… booked for Hatteras in North Carolina, but they have a power outage that may not be fixed for weeks and a mandatory visitor evacuation!). I shoot with a Canon 80D and have 18-55mm and 55-250mm lenses. No formal training, just a good eye!
amanda_cake* July 30, 2017 at 9:51 pm Some of the on the go type shots are from my iPhone 7 Plus. I haven’t gotten comfortable reviewing restaurants with the big camera in hand yet.
Myrin* July 29, 2017 at 6:38 am So, the conclusion of my stunning tale of two adolescent Extreme Crime Lords!!! is about the most anti-climactic thing I’ve ever experienced but I know that you guys were just dying to know how this whole story turned out, so here goes: (For those of you who have no idea what the heck I’m talking about but would like to know: You can read the entire breathtaking saga starting from here – I always linked to my previous comment about it, so you’d have to click three or four times and will be able to read up on the whole thing from start to finish, with this being the very last update only six weeks ago.) As subpoena-ed, I went to court on Monday where I had to wait outside the courtroom for a bit. Waiting with me were, in order of how we sat on the benches: – a guy about my mum’s age who seemed to, by all accounts, be the stenographer; he later had to leave the room because the hearing wasn’t public after all so my next best guess is that he was press? I have no idea what was up with that guy, but he knew everyone there, including the other two witnesses – another guy about my mum’s age who seemed weirdly familiar – I’m almost definitely sure I know him from some kind of local election poster but I still haven’t found out who he really is (which is completely my bad since they actually read out everyone’s names aloud and I could’ve just remembered his, but whatever) -, obviously a witness – another witness, also about my mum’s age, who looked so much like one of my neighbours that I couldn’t think about anything else whenever I heard him speak – myself, weirdly nervous – what if it’d suddenly turn out that I had stolen these vehicles?? – a young guy who had clearly hit a growth spurt before his actual features could catch up with the maturing, ergo looking like a very long, gangly porcelain figure – clearly one of the defendants – a young woman who shared age, haircolour, and sound of voice with me – I first thought she might be the young guy’s lawyer but that turned out to be wrong and from how she spoke, I guess she was his assigned social worker – lastly, standing before those two, the guy’s father – he wore flip-flops, bathing trunks, an eighties haircut with extra grease, and had enormously round eyes And then came in another young guy I immediately recognised because he was one of the two who sat opposite from me on the train. Oooooh, the giddiness! Witness Mode Activated! Anyway, as the flickering sign next to the door changed from green to red to green and back, alternately proclaiming this to be a public sitting and then not (ultimately setting on not), we heard a weird crackling through the speakers below it and then silence and then more crackling and then a woman who turned out to be the actual stenographer stepped out of the courtroom, clearly annoyed, and called everyone inside. We witnesses just had to confirm that we were there (and two weren’t there, although you can be punished for that like what is up with these people) and then leave the room again. Okay. After about ten or fifteen minutes, the crackling started again and between bouts of it I could hear the goblin-like voice of the goblin-looking judge ordering all witnesses to come in. The other two witnesses, by virtue of being elderly gentlemen, clearly hadn’t heard anything at all, so I beckoned them to come with me and as we were all piling through the door the stenographer had to step out yet again to ask us to come inside but since we were all already halfway inside the room, neither of us could actually really hear here. After all of us finally were where we had to be, the judge called us up to him and informed us that we wouldn’t need to testify after all because the defendants had confessed to everything they were accused of. We got a piece of paper that would allow us to get reimbursed for the travel cost we’d spent coming to court (gotta love German bureaucracy, you can claim expenses for everything) and then we went on our merry way. So, I suppose that’s the ending of this lovely story. May they not steal another vehicle ever again and also not involve innocent bystanders who were just on their way to work and then had to be subjected to them bragging about their bizarre joyrides.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 1:08 pm This type of thing happens in US courts also. The threat of witnesses testifying can cause people to rethink what they are saying. Lawyers usually encourage them that a trial with witness testimony is not a good thing, it’s an iffy thing and who knows how it will play out.
Alice Ulf* July 29, 2017 at 1:44 pm I’ve been following this story with interest, so I’m glad your legal saga is over and that justice was done!
Pomona Sprout* July 30, 2017 at 5:19 am Wow, I just read the whole saga through from the start, and what an antimactic ending that was! At least it was anticlimactic in a good way, sort of (since the bad guys confessed and all), but I would have been quite miffed at not getting to testify, after all thst drama, lol! I guess I’m weird, because the stuff that goes on courtoms fascinates me, to the extent that I’m actually disappointed to have never served on a jury and hope to eventually get a chance. I got called up once in my life so far but was not chosen to serve on the actual jury, and was disappointed where I guess most people would have been relieved? At any rate, I’m glad those guys got themseles caught and will have to face at least some sort of penalty. And good on you for callong the cops to share what you heard on that train!
Marianne* July 29, 2017 at 6:41 am If you inadvertently saw a friend’s search history (e.g. if you were using their computer – with permission – to look up something and suggested terms came up) and there were a lot of search terms relating to suicide, would you be concerned? (Assuming they’ve shown no other cause for concern, apart from normal stuff like being stressed from work, and considering they’ve freely let you use their computer without feeling the need to conceal that stuff?) Would you bring that up? It seems like a violation of privacy even if it wasn’t intentional?
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 6:59 am I’d ask! They could have been going down the Wikipedia rabbit hole after watching 13 Reasons Why or something but ask and have a frank conversation. If you’re still concerned, talk to her family or close friends if you know them.
Harriet* July 29, 2017 at 7:09 am I would ask. I’m a suicide helpline volunteer, and when people are suicidal it’s often a very difficult thing to bring up with anyone in their lives, and sometimes someone else opening the discussion can be very welcome. I know it’s a very difficult subject to raise, and as TL says there could be a dozen innocent explanations. But on the off chance it isn’t, I would suggest you bring it up in a casual low-key way – “I noticed this with the suggested search terms, and just wanted to check in”. Then listen.
Red* July 29, 2017 at 9:26 am I’d ask. I’ve been that person, and it’s impossibly difficult to say something on your own, but things need to be said, just the same. It’s awkward but easier if someone else starts that conversation. Even if he’s just down some weird Wikipedia path, at least your mind will be set at ease.
C* July 29, 2017 at 10:17 am They also could have intentionally let you seen it in hopes you would see it & say something about it to them because it is too hard for them to broach the subject themselves. It is much better to bring it up (even if they get upset) & have your friend deny that they are suicidal than to learn they have died.
Optimistic Prime* July 29, 2017 at 1:00 pm Ask. It may feel a bit weird to the person you’re asking if they were not considering it, but you didn’t find it by snooping – you found it in the suggested terms while using their computer with permission. And any awkwardness is worth keeping your friend safe. If it’s truly nothing, they’ll just say it’s nothing. I used to work in student services and a big part of my job was working with suicidal students or students who were thinking about or considering suicide. It’s always better to ask. People who are thinking about it are often very relieved that someone else is finally talking about it and she may open up to you.
Don't turn this name into a hyperlink* July 29, 2017 at 1:01 pm In this case, safety most definitely trumps privacy. Ask away.
Junior Dev* July 29, 2017 at 1:48 pm I agree you should say something. Suggested wording: “How are you doing lately?” This is a decent conversation opener and keeps it from being too abrupt. Once they’ve responded: “I know this is hard to talk about but I care about you and I have to ask: I saw some stuff on your laptop search history about suicide. Is that something that’s been on your mind?” Then just listen. It can be really hard to say the word “suicide” and want to get around it with euphemisms like “hurting yourself” or elude the topic altogether and talk around it (“is everything ok?”) But bringing it up explicitly means they have to give a yes or no answer, and won’t feel they have to avoid awkwardness by being similarly euphemistic. Bringing it up in terms of the laptop also gives them an easy way to explain if it does turn out to be innocuous ( like they are watching a TV show about it or something).
Marzipan* July 29, 2017 at 2:47 pm I’d ask. You won’t do any harm, may do some good, and they’re unlikely to be upset with a kind enquiry whether or not they have been having thoughts of suicide (or just searching it for some other reason).
Candy* July 29, 2017 at 4:01 pm Always safe than sorry, you know your friend best, etc etc but I think it could also depend on what your friend does for work/what her family is like/etc. For example, is she a writer? Maybe she was googling suicide to accurately write about it. Does she have depressed family members and she was searching for ways she can help them? Our search history doesn’t always reflect our plans. Like going through my history just now I came across “sample telephone scam” (I am not looking to scam anyone over the telephone), “baby nursery tour” (I am not pregnant nor hoping to be), and “cider cocktail recipes” (I am, in fact, looking for cider cocktail ideas)
Anion* July 29, 2017 at 4:15 pm Yes, I’m a writer. Some of the things I’ve looked up over the course of the last ten years or so would make your toes curl.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 11:43 am Ha. Me too. I even have a suicide folder because of a book I was researching.
KitKat* July 29, 2017 at 6:52 am I need to move a queen mattress from Austin to a storage space in Houston. Roughly a 2.5 hour drive. How would you go about doing something like that? I’d rather not rent a UHaul to drive between cities, or a trailer to pull with my SUV. I’m wondering what options y’all might recommend. Thanks!!!
Scarlettnz* July 29, 2017 at 6:56 am Is it worth the money to move it? Would you be better off to sell/donate it and just buy another when you need it?
KitKat* July 29, 2017 at 7:00 am It was an expensive mattress that’s just six months old. It’s a keeper for a whole bunch of reasons.
Buggy Crispino* July 29, 2017 at 8:21 am I actually don’t recommend strapping a mattress to the top of a vehicle. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one done properly to keep the wind from getting underneath it and lifting the front of it up, which breaks down the mattress at that point where it bends. They’re never quite the same after that.
KitKat* July 29, 2017 at 11:15 am Preserving the mattress is important, but I’d be even more concerned about the safety. Yikes! I’d never do that to myself, or my fellow drivers an drew neighbors on the road!
amanda_cake* July 29, 2017 at 12:54 pm Wasn’t aware of that part. I am probably more handy with self hauling and ratchet straps than most folks, so I would be confident that if I tied it down it wouldn’t go flying in the road at least. Didn’t think about air impact.
Countess Boochie Flagrante* July 29, 2017 at 8:51 am I bought a mattress from a friend, and we found… ugh, I can’t remember the name at the moment, but a service that was basically Uber for shipping. Gig economy shipping service. It cost about $110 to have a very nice dude pick up the mattress in Jersey City and deliver it in Baltimore, and he even helped me haul it to the 3rd floor.
Episkey* July 29, 2017 at 9:47 am It could be something like Dolly. You could try the app and get a quote.
KitKat* July 29, 2017 at 11:17 am There’s a service called U-Pack, I think, that I was hoping someone would mention. ATX to HOU is a frequent route, so I can’t be the first person moving a piece of furniture from A to B.
Free Meerkats (formerly Gene)* July 29, 2017 at 8:12 pm I think you are trying to remember Roadie. It’s Uber for moving stuff.
Anono-me* July 29, 2017 at 9:45 am If time is not an issue, I recommend calling a few of the small moving companies in both cities to ask about a “space available move”. Sometimes a mover will have just a little bit of room left on the trailer, but not enough for another household. The big companies are less likely to bother trying to fill it, but smaller companies sometimes will.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 1:12 pm This is a great idea. I was able to get an antique desk to a family member, by letting the desk hitch a ride with an antique dealer going that way. It was a four hour ride and a good size desk. If you can think of people who are heading in the same direction, you might find someone who would be interested in picking up and extra $100 or so.
Ron McDon* July 29, 2017 at 5:24 pm Do you have a car with folding rear seats? It might fit if you put the seats down?
KAZ2Y5* July 30, 2017 at 3:37 pm Are you not wanting to drive it yourself at all? I just ask because at UHaul you can also rent a moving van that would fit a queen size mattress. I refuse to drive any of the moving trucks, but have driven the van and it is just like driving a (very large) SUV.
KitKat* July 30, 2017 at 6:29 pm Great! Yeah, a van would work. Didn’t think of that. I e driven trucks before and the lack of a R/V mirror is unnerving for me. Didn’t realize U-Haul rented vans. Thanks!
Jessen* July 29, 2017 at 7:02 am Mentioned a little of this last week, but wanted to get back and clarify: I have a cat I want to start feeding primarily wet food instead of dry. The trouble is she’s used to free feeding, and if she’s free fed dry food she’ll ignore wet. But when I try to give her wet she just kind of nibbles it and leaves it. She might get back to it later, but I can’t just leave that stuff out that long and I have to go to work so I can’t feed her 4 meals a day so she gets enough. Any advice for getting her to eat a little more, or a little more quickly?
Caledonia* July 29, 2017 at 7:14 am I have always had cats who eat wet food and it’s not been a problem with leaving the wet food in their bowl to free feed at their leisure. Sure it’s a bit smelly but you get used to eat. If they eat too fast they might throw it up. She also has dry food in a bowl.
Caledonia* July 29, 2017 at 7:15 am I am in the UK though. From precious cat posts on here I understand that there is somewhat of a difference in cat ownership.
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 7:43 am I’m confused about how that would affect feeding, though? Most food is okay to leave out for a few hours and it’s not cruel to the cat to let her own pace (presumably you would be home to replace the food before it got moldy and dangerous.)
Jessen* July 29, 2017 at 7:48 am At least here most people say you shouldn’t leave wet food out for more than 30min, an hour at max. Otherwise you risk a lot of bacteria developing and kitty can get food poisoning.
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 7:56 am Hmm. I’d ask your vet but animals are more resistant to food poisoning (and have a better sense of smell to avoid off foods) than we do. 4 hours shouldn’t be a big deal. (I will also eat things that have been left out overnight if they’re not stinky/slimy/discolored.)
Jessen* July 29, 2017 at 8:54 am Well, it’s going to be either 30min-1h, or 9-10h, realistically. Because I can’t come home midday to deal with it.
Sydney* July 29, 2017 at 4:05 pm If your cat hasn’t eaten it in 9 hours he/she isn’t going to eat it. Feed in the morning and leave it, and throw out the uneaten portion when you get home and feed again. however some cats won’t eat canned cat food so make sure the cat is eating. The extra moisture is good but a happy cat is a fed cat.
Jen RO* July 30, 2017 at 2:39 am I absolutely leave wet cat food out for a day and my cats are fine. The food gets dry after a while and they stop eating it anyway.
FiveWheels* July 29, 2017 at 1:02 pm Long story short, my cats used to routinely eat “leftovers” that were out all night. None of them ever had any food poisoning issues or similar.
CS Rep by Day, Writer by Night* July 29, 2017 at 1:22 pm We mix wet and dry together and leave it out for 8-10 hours. I’ve never had a cat get food poisoning in the 30 years I’ve been an owner of multiple cats who have lived very long and healthy lives.
Artemesia* July 29, 2017 at 2:47 pm They eat carrion in the wild; I think they are more able to manage food sitting out a bit than we are.
Sydney* July 29, 2017 at 3:59 pm I leave wet cat food out too. It’s a few hours – it’s canned – it’s fine. Mine eats most of it at one sitting but I don’t take it away if she doesn’t finish the portion. They eat raw mice. It’s fine.
Harriet* July 29, 2017 at 7:17 am I think the recommended advice is to move away from free feeding the dry to feeding it at certain times, and then taking it away, so the cat gets used to needing to eat meals rather than free feeding…and once that transition has been made, wet food can be gradually introduced. I ignored that advice and just took away the dry and started feeding wet meals – I had previously tried to cut down on dry and introduce wet, but as long as the dry food was there they ignored the wet. I’m lucky to have generally laid back and robust cats though which managed it with no side effects, and there was a reason the change needed to happen quickly. If I’d tried that with my last cat it would have resulted in either major stomach upsets or just refusing to eat, so I wouldn’t necessarily recommend it. If money isn’t an issue, could you try some of the super-premium wet food which is more like a treat?
The Other Dawn* July 29, 2017 at 7:27 am Why can’t the wet food be left out? I have multiple cats. They get some wet food before work. Some of my cats inhale it all at once, whereas others like to graze on it. So I leave it and it’s gone when I come home. Maybe your cat is just a nibbler by nature. Or maybe she’s thinking that the dry food is coming so she’ll just have a little bit of wet and then save her appetite. Another possibility is she’s a cat who just doesn’t care for wet food. I have one cat who will eat only dry food. Can’t get him to eat wet food no matter what I do, so I just let him eat the dry food.
Jessen* July 29, 2017 at 7:47 am I’m worried because she’ll leave it out for hours. It’s basically just canned meat and fish, and it can go bad and start to grow bacteria if you leave it out. I don’t want her to end up with food poisoning from food that’s just been sitting out. I don’t want to leave it out any longer than I’d leave a bowl of tuna for me sitting.
MommyMD* July 29, 2017 at 1:57 pm Let your cat be your guide. Mine won’t touch wet. I feed a high quality kibble. Not supermarket trash. If your cat has health problems, there are prescription diets. Always lots of fresh water.
Caledonia* July 29, 2017 at 3:42 pm The only times my cat is sick is when a) she eats her food too fast or b) she eats too much grass outside. My cat is regularly fed at 7 am and not again until I come back from work at 6 pm.
Nic* July 30, 2017 at 12:23 am My cat was used to grazing all day on dry food, and I recently started doing a wet meal in the mornings. I leave it out for him all day, but past a certain point he shows no interest in it, and will go for the dry food (even though he MUCH prefers the wet). Cats are pretty good about knowing what will make them sick, in my experience.
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 8:03 am Why don’t you want to feed some dry food which can be left out? You can’t make her eat more quickly and you dont want her to – she might just throw up. Don’t encourage her to self regulate (even) less. Our cat gets free fed wet food for various reasons – but only when we are in. When we aren’t, he has dry food. The mix works fine and our vet tells us he’s the perfect weight. Just in case that’s your issue with dry food?
Jessen* July 29, 2017 at 8:52 am No, my issue is my veterinary advice is that even if she’s fine on dry food now, long-term feeding can cause issues like kidney problems and diabetes, especially if she’s exclusively fed dry food. But if she’s free fed dry food she’ll ignore the wet food because she knows she’ll get dry later.
FiveWheels* July 29, 2017 at 1:09 pm Yeah, advice now seems to be move to wet food wherever possible.
Amadeo* July 30, 2017 at 12:47 pm Eh, I’m still not totally convinced of this and I was a CVT for a while. I have a 19 year old who ate dry food all her life and has only recently begun to have the geriatric cat kidney issues. Old cats are going to have those problems whether you feed wet or dry, it’s just an aging thing. Sometimes cats just won’t eat certain things and there’s not a whole heck of a lot you can really do about it, because you just can’t ‘starve them out’ like you can a dog. Feed the cat what she will eat and encourage water drinking with a fountain or a wide dish that won’t bother her whiskers.
Episkey* July 29, 2017 at 9:56 am Luckily, I don’t have this problem because my cats are like Labradors with food, they inhale it in 45 seconds (they are both raw fed). Here’s the thing, though, most cats are not like dogs and while you can say for a dog that it’s OK to “train” them to eat faster by picking up the bowl after 15 minute and eventually they’ll learn that if they want a full meal, they have to eat it at that point — cats are more difficult. Unfortunately, you can’t let them go for a period of more than a day without eating much because that in itself can cause more problems which then leads to a downward spiral. My friend has 2 cats that she was trying to transition to raw and one wanted no part of it. She wanted to transition because she just wanted their diet to be healthier and to give her cats the best possible food, but her one cat protested and wouldn’t eat and she didn’t realize how dangerous that can be. The cat ended up super sick and had to be force fed for like a month before she finally got back to normal eating habits. Sometimes you just have to pick your battles with them. I totally understand wanting her on wet food because it is far better in the long run for them than dry, but if she won’t do it, she won’t do it. You could try reducing the dry free feeding to a set amount that is less than she would normally get and then giving her wet to try to make her a bit hungrier so she is more likely to eat the wet, but I wouldn’t recommend anything drastic because she might revolt. You could also try a few different brands of wet to see if one strikes her fancy a bit more. If nothing works, just try to have her dry be the best quality you can afford and get in a little wet or more moisture however you can.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 1:15 pm Dogs take longer than 15 minutes to eat a meal? Serious question, I have never seen this. Maybe because I don’t leave dry food out?
KT* July 29, 2017 at 2:10 pm My pup is a slow, leisurely eater. She stands at the bowls and eats a kibble at a time and seems to savor each bite. It takes her at least 20 minutes to go through the process.
Not So NewReader* July 30, 2017 at 7:02 am Am giggling. That is too cute. I suppose if you are hurrying that can kind of be annoying, though.
Stardust* July 30, 2017 at 11:48 am My dog inhales her food like it’s an Olympian sport. Her food is gone in less than a minute and I try different ideas to slow her down.
Sibley* July 29, 2017 at 10:17 am I do modified free feed with my cats, both wet and dry. (They get a set quantity, I don’t pick it up.) Dry food is dispensed automatically on a schedule, morning and afternoon. Wet food I put down morning and evening. I’ll pick it up when the bowl is empty, or when it’s time for the next bowl, whichever comes first. I’ve never had a problem. Trying to get a cat to do anything is an exercise in futility. I assume that you’re wanting to switch to wet food for health reasons, likely the extra water. That’s what I’ve done. However, I’ll warn you that if the cat doesn’t want the wet food, you won’t win. You can try different brands/flavors, but you may be out of luck. My younger cat is chronically mildly dehydrated despite 2 water fountains, 2 toilets, and whatever puddles outside. I am well aware of this. She’ll eat some wet food, but prefers dry food. When she’s had enough wet food, she won’t eat it anymore. Even if she’s hungry, she’ll wait for dry food. Silly cat.
Sprechen Sie Talk?* July 29, 2017 at 2:46 pm This is the method we do. Our little girl, who was absolutely TINY as a kitten, has a tendency to inhale anything in front of her. We think its some sort of food anxiety thing, but she was really starting to pack on the pounds so we had to do something a bit drastic. We now free feed 1/2 to 3/4C of premium dry in the morning to share, and they share a packet of wet at night. They mostly lick the wet and then finish off the chunkier bits over the few evening hours, or have some kibble. We also have a broad shallow tupperware out with a lot of water, topped up throughout the day and changed every morning, which has helped get a lot more water into them. They dont like their whiskers touching the sides of the water bowl apparently. So far this seems to be working pretty good, they aren’t complaining or hungry, and I am not going nearly through the kibble bag as fast. Have you tried mixing some kibble in with the wet?
Nic* July 30, 2017 at 12:30 am On the water thing: My roommate’s cat for ages would only drink out of a dripping tap; preferably a bath tub. My roommate was getting bad about leaving the tub dripping for hours, and having addressed it with words many times I finally put a tall tupperware container under the tap, and plugged the drain so if there was overflow he would see that, too. Turns out, his cat and mine both LOVED the “tall bowl”. Now they both reject traditional bowls AND the tap. We think it has something to do with not liking to bend down to the water bowl. Bonus: because the “tall bowl” is so large, we don’t have to worry about it going dry during the day. Maybe something like that would help entice yours to drink?
Mallory Janis Ian* July 30, 2017 at 7:58 pm My cat loves to drink from glasses of water that people have left on end tables or the coffee table. I guess that’s because of the “tall bowl” aspect.
Melody Pond* July 29, 2017 at 10:55 am I can’t remember where I read this – I tried to find the article or youtube video for you, but I couldn’t track it down. This is the gist of something I read recently? If possible? Start shortening the chunks of time during which food is left out. If you’re leaving food out all day, then go to leaving food out for only 3-4 hours at a time. Do that for a few days. Then shorten it to 2-3 hours at a time. Do that for a few days. Then shorten it to 1-2 hours at a time. And so on and so forth, until you’re only leaving the food out for 30 minutes. This could be difficult, if you have a work schedule or something you’re working around. So, it might be a little spendy, but it might be worth it to invest in an automatic feeder type of thing that would let you program these intervals. I haven’t looked yet myself, but I’d bet there’s something that would do this, that you could find on Amazon. If I were in your shoes, I would do this first with the dry food, and get her to where she’s consuming the dry food within 30 minutes. And then, slowly start mixing in wet food with the dry food. And I do mean SLOWLY. Like, over the course of three or four weeks, start with 1/2 teaspoon of wet food mixed in with the dry food, do that for a few days, then increase to 1 teaspoon, and at the same time, decrease the portion of wet food by approximately 1 teaspoon. Do this until you’ve very gradually switched from the dry food to the wet food. I’ve found that with picky cats, the trick is just to introduce new things SO slowly, that they don’t even notice it’s happening. And 95% of the time, I bet that will work.
nonprofit manager* July 29, 2017 at 3:49 pm Haven’t read all the comments so maybe this has been mentioned. Use a “Frosty Bowl”. You freeze the insert of the bowl and food placed in the bowl stays cool for quite some time. If you are planning to do this only once a day, you can re-freeze the insert overnight. Or you can buy two inserts and always have one in the freezer. Also, if she realizes that no kibble is coming, she will eventually eat faster. I transitioned our cats from dry to canned to raw and they eat their meals pretty quickly now, though it took some time to get there.
Stardust* July 30, 2017 at 11:56 am I find that my cats like some brands and flavored of wet food better than others. And they change their mind a lot, too. So I don’t buy too much of one type but get a variety of cans. Its possible your kitty might like a different wet cat food better. Have you tried a variety of types (brands and flavored etc.?) Also, some cans are pâté and others are chunks or small shedder bits. My kitties don’t seem to like the chunky and shredded canned food as much as the pate type. Also, I leave out dry food all the time so the kitties can feed when they want and then put out wet food about twice a day.
The Other Dawn* July 29, 2017 at 7:29 am It looks like Eve is saying, “Dude, rub my belly!” And Sam is just not having it.
The Other Dawn* July 29, 2017 at 9:41 am Yes, I’ve learned from experience that it’s an enticing, painful trap!
periwinkle* July 29, 2017 at 10:21 am Our two most skittish cats are tummy rub enthusiasts, while our two most mellow cats hate it. Cats are weird. You might have noticed this.
Countess Boochie Flagrante* July 29, 2017 at 11:56 am Yep. My cat used to be a source of needly death if you touched her belly, but since we moved away from other cats, she’s transitioned to where she really likes belly rubs — but only if they come in the form of scritches or soft kneading with my knuckles, not vigorous rubs.
Saturnalia* July 29, 2017 at 3:07 pm My kitties prefer the gentlest tummy tickles only. They’ll get reeeeeeel long and show off their armpits and spay scars for the gentle tickles :-)
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 11:47 am Pig liked it when I brushed her belly. I would go outside and sit on the patio and tap the brush on the concrete. She would come over and flop down on one side (always the same one; what up, cat) and I would gently brush her head and down her back to her tail. When she was somewhat relaxed, I’d go over her side and belly. She would always get up and run around and then come back for more. If she got aggressive, I’d give her the brush to bite and then we’d call it a day. Sometimes she wanted belly pets and sometimes she didn’t. I learned to read her body language so I didn’t get clawed.
Katie the Fed* July 29, 2017 at 7:23 am My husband and I were supposed to fly to see his family last night. With the storms and insane rain here, I was worried about flooding and trees falling (we have a 65-year old house with a lot of old trees around). So I made the decision around 11am that we were going to delay the trip a day. Husband thought I was being a little too worried, but I just felt it was the right decision. Well, our original flight ended up getting delayed 6.5 hours and we would have gotten in at 2am. Husband has begrudgingly admitted I was right :)
Vicky Austin* July 29, 2017 at 9:07 am You made a good choice – I was trying to get back to D.C. from NYC. Tried to leave on a 3 pm and ended up home at 9. (And that was one of the better stories I heard at the airport!)
Katie the Fed* July 29, 2017 at 10:44 am I got a note Thursday that they were waiving all flight changes for the region, so it didn’t cost a dime. Plus we booked on miles.
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 11:19 am No, I meant to swing things so that you were absolutely right in what you told your husband.
Dan* July 29, 2017 at 4:59 pm TBH, if an airline is offering weather waivers, take it, unless you want to hang out in the airport for extended periods. I would have thought you were overly cautious about the house, not so about flight delays.
Not trying hard enough* July 29, 2017 at 7:30 am Finally decided to join the gym. It’s pretty much my last chance to take advantage of my student discount and the gym it applies to is less than a 10 minute walk away, and open 24/7. It’s very no-frills (you can choose to pay for add-ons if you want them) so the rate is pretty good. The problem is that…it’s been a week since I joined, and I haven’t yet gone. I’m not sure what the problem is. I’m not scared of gyms or anything (used to use one in my home city quite regularly), but it’s more…a ‘disruption’ to my current routine? I’ve carved out a time to go in the morning before work, but instead of actually /going/ I’ve been…I don’t know, pottering around my flat in the morning (all the while going ‘you really should get to that gym’), and then I’d be like ‘well if I go now I’ll only have 20mins to work out’. I’ve tried laying out my workout clothes in the morning, trying to go to bed earlier to get up earlier, but…it’s like a mental hurdle more so than a physical one. It’s the middle of summer so it’s not even as if it’s cold or dark outside at 6am either! And I’m always /awake/ during that time, I just can’t seem to get myself there!
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 7:46 am Just go for 20 minutes then! That’s still a workout. It’s not a failure to go for 20 minutes at first (or 10 or 5) and it’s also okay to just do a bit of walking on the treadmill or some light weightlifting while you get started. Or, heck, always, if that’s what you prefer.
nep* July 29, 2017 at 8:43 am You can indeed get in a decent workout in 20 minutes (just be sure you don’t skip a warmup). Also, though, I would say that getting decent exercise does not require going to the gym. If the time crunch in the morning is an issue, you could do some quite effective no-equipment moves right at home. Could this work?
Robowoman* July 29, 2017 at 12:06 pm I used to have the same problem when I was trying to get into the habit of going to the gym at lunch during work. I’d delay and delay and it would get to be 3 or 4 o’clock and then “it’s too late”. Then one day I just picked a time (1230) and just stood up from my chair and said it’s time to go. No thinking or deliberating. Like Nike says, “Just do it.” I somehow separated the thinking and doing. Put myself on autopilot and mechanically made the movements to leave the building. Hard to explain but it worked — usually.
Trixie* July 29, 2017 at 12:40 pm Pretty much this. I think so many of us struggle to go on a regular basis and some times it’s just do it. If you do work out, you almost always feel better. And if you won’t work out, getting there is a good first step. This is why I like classes. The instructors guide you and all you have to do is follow. (or a youtube video.)
Saturnalia* July 29, 2017 at 3:12 pm I haven’t figured out how to channel it, but if I manage avoid thinking about the thing as little as possible, I won’t have time to consider alternatives and I’m able to get far enough into it to feel committed (already heading somewhere, for example). I am pretty much the worst about over thinking everything though; hopefully I’ll nail down how to invoke the Nike superpower!
neverjaunty* July 29, 2017 at 1:38 pm Good advice from a commenter here a while back: You don’t have to DO anything while you’re at the gym. Just treat it as your downtime and go. It’s perfectly OK if you just walk in, sit in the locker room and read a book for half an hour, and then go home. When you can decouple “going to the gym” from the anxiety train of “…and then I have to be on the exercise bike, and then this and that will happen…..” running underneath it, it gets easier to go.
Junior Dev* July 29, 2017 at 2:02 pm Can you go after work? Then it won’t matter if you’re later in getting to the gym than you planned.
Dead Quote Olympics* July 29, 2017 at 7:15 pm Yeah, I know what you mean, although my inexplicable lack of action tends to be in social situations, not the gym. You mentioned add-ons. Can you sign up once or twice for a personal trainer at that time or have someone meet you at the gym? Even a friend to meet you at the door (or your door) and then go on their merry way? Not wanting to disappoint or inconvenience someone else might be the way over the block. Even a friend or family member calling or texting you five minutes after you should be in the gym and asking if you made it. Mild social shame can be a great motivator!
Jessi* July 29, 2017 at 9:47 pm I would try to pick a class, or even better arrange a couple of sessions with a PT. Then you have a reason to be at the gym and it can be part of your new routine?
Gym tricks* July 30, 2017 at 10:26 am 3 things that helped me: 1) Go ahead and get dressed in your gym clothes, even if you’re not sure you’ll go to the gym. For me, getting that one tiny obstacle done helped a lot when I finally made the decision to go to the gym. I rationalized it as “well, I’ve got to wear something, might as well be this gym outfit.” 2) don’t try to go at a time of day that’s not gonna work. I know going to the gym in the morning is supposed to make you feel great all day, but I just Will. Not. Do. It. Since I’ve started accepting that and going to the gym after dinner, life’s been a lot easier. 3) I pretty much go to the gym exclusively for classes. The ones I like only happened a few times a week, and they start at a specific time, so if I don’t walk out the door on Thursday evening at 7:20 PM, I’ve missed my chance for a while. Maybe none of these tricks apply to you, but they helped me. Also I’m realizing that I rely on tricking and threatening myself quite a bit. Hmm.
Fenchurch* July 31, 2017 at 1:37 pm Think of yourself 6 months, a year, or more from now. Think how much better off that person will be from you going to the gym today. You are doing this to get there. That was one of the big mental hurdles I got over was thinking “If I had started working out seriously x amount of time ago, I wonder how I would be today?” It IS very mental, and it’s hard to see how each day you skip adds up over time. You can do this!
Mike Crapbag* July 29, 2017 at 7:31 am Dilemma here. Bob is on his way to a trip on the other side of the world. He misses the connecting flight, spends the night at his friend Rob’s house and goes back to the airport the next day. Long story short, they spend the whole day trying to sort out a new flight with lots of unexpectes bureaucracies and delays. Bob is sorta elderly and does not speak much English so Rob assists him that whole day. Finally they are told they just have to purchase another ticket. Rob takes Bob to Rob’s office nearby. Rob does the online purchase for Bob. Due to the chaos of the day Rob accidentally types his own surname “Robertson” instead of Bob’s surname “Bobbertson.” So when theg arrive at the check in counter, Bob is turned away for having an incorrectly named ticket. Rob tries to get the ticket name changed but faces customer service delays. At this stage Bob has lost too many days on an already short trip, can’t afford another ticket, so cancels the trip. In this situation should Rob reimburse Bob for even a portion of the lost trip for making a mistake on Bob’s online ticketing? Bob has no insurance, btw.
Katie the Fed* July 29, 2017 at 7:39 am I think so, yes. Rob was very well-meaning, but he did cause harm to Bob. Therefore Rob should pay.
The Cosmic Avenger* July 29, 2017 at 12:26 pm Eh, for me a lot of it would depend on the relationship between the people. If Bob really depends on Rob to take care of things for him, then I’d lean *slightly* towards Rob reimbursing Bob. However, just as presented with no assumptions or further detail, Rob was trying to help and doing things that Bob probably could and should have done himself. Rob could offer if he feels bad, but I think Bob basically delegated authority to Rob, and so Bob is ultimately responsible for Rob’s work product, as it were. The elderly and language parts don’t seem to enter into it, as if both could be used to describe me I’d still be either doing it myself with Rob over my shoulder, or I’d be looking over his while he did it for me.
Kimberlee, Esq.* July 29, 2017 at 12:47 pm Eh. I mean, in a similar situation, I would have had my friend come look at the screen to verify the info, ideally, so I would not have felt bad if it turned out that the info is wrong. Bob leaned a LOT on the labor of his friend, and it’s his responsibility to make sure his travel bookings are correct. Offering reimburse would be nice, but I don’t think it’s a moral obligation.
Optimistic Prime* July 29, 2017 at 1:06 pm Eh, I don’t think so. Rob was trying to help by doing Bob a favor, and these things happen. The wrong name was not the sole cause (or even the primary cause) of Bob missing out on his trip. I am more curious about the name and ticketing thing. It sounds like Rob bought the ticket for same-day travel, or at the very least less than 24 hours later. Since all airlines now have to let you cancel the tickets within 24 hours without charge, why didn’t they just cancel the ticket and get a new one?
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 6:19 pm Ideally. Rob could offer and Bob could refuse. My own rule of thumb is that if I ask someone to help me and it blows up on us, I absorb the costs of that. I frame it as, I could have asked someone else, or I could have perhaps avoided the whole problem for x reason. And sometimes we help people and the help goes belly up, this happens, too. Bob is lucky to have a good friend like Rob. Rob gave him a night’s lodging and a full day of assistance including language translation. That is worth a few bucks and really we cannot ignore that part of the story. I think Bob broke even on this deal.
Reflection* July 29, 2017 at 7:42 am Just a general question… When you look into the mirror, do you like what you see?
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 7:49 am Sometimes! Sometimes I’m amazingly good looking, sometimes I’m ugly, but most of the time it’s just my face, which is the same face I’ve had all my life, and that’s pretty comforting. Even when it’s a really ugly day, I tend to forget what I look like as soon as I’m away from a mirror, so as long as I look appropriate for the day’s activities, I figure it’s okay. (Actually, the same for good looking days! It’s just my face, after all.)
amanda_cake* July 29, 2017 at 7:56 am Most of the time. And that’s doing good for me, so I am not complaining about the times I don’t since they are fewer and fewer.
nep* July 29, 2017 at 8:10 am Sometimes. Generally depends on whether I’m well hydrated and whether I’ve been getting enough sleep; a deficiency in either of these shows up on my face straightaway. I often think about the fact, too, that what I see — a mirror image — is not what others see. What about you, Reflection?
OldMom* July 29, 2017 at 8:15 am Mostly, yes… I notice that I look just like my grandmother (especially first thing in the morning) and I loved my grandma so what’s not to like? First observed this on my 51st birthday and (not) coincidentally, that was about her age when we first met.
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 8:41 am Oh! I hope I look like my grandmother when I get older. I’m lucky she’s still around and all there at 91 (and 1/2!) but it’ll be nice to have a reminder of her when I get older.
Red Reader* July 29, 2017 at 8:24 am Honestly, it depends entirely on whether I’m dressed or not. Heh. My spare 20 pounds is much less noticeable when I am clothed.
OnFire* July 29, 2017 at 8:42 am Do you mean physically? My face, etc.? Yeah, I need to lose weight, but I’m not self-hating and I consider myself decent-looking. Or do you mean having to face one’s self in the mirror? That’s an entirely different thing. I’ve had times that I didn’t like facing myself, even though I *looked* good. But now I don’t have trouble looking myself in the eye.
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 10:44 am It depends. I gotta say, though, the upside of nearsightedness is that we’re *all* beautiful without my glasses.
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 8:43 pm Fposte, I image you looking very gorgeous in a very practical manner, much like Mary Poppins.
Emily* July 29, 2017 at 10:46 am I do! For the most part, anyway. I mostly like how I look and am comforted by the familiarity of my face. As someone who has struggled with acne (I still get some now, but it’s a lot better than it was five years ago!), I think I’m also more at peace with minor blemishes and temporary imperfections than I might have been otherwise.
Get a Haircut* July 29, 2017 at 11:47 am Visually? Often yes… although I’ve gained a bunch of weight this year & I’m not thrilled about that. I just keep reminding myself that bodies are malleable.
Don't turn this name into a hyperlink* July 29, 2017 at 1:05 pm I think I’m liking it better and better, although it’s still a work in progress.
Amy* July 29, 2017 at 1:55 pm Often, yes. I have a chronic illness and when I was a child it was unclear if I would live to adulthood. Now I’m almost thirty and going strong, so things like the little wrinkles around my eyes and the stretch marks on my belly from pregnancy are sweet reminders of how lucky I am.
HannahS* July 29, 2017 at 2:37 pm Some things I like (my face!) and some things I don’t (I could lose about 25 pounds). But I also find that it doesn’t distress me when I don’t like what I see. I have about the same emotional reaction that I have when I notice–once again–that my walls are beige. Like, ugh, beige, but repainting is a little more work than I can handle right now, and it’s a pretty great place overall so *shrug* whatever. As a side note (and I know this isn’t what you asked but here are my unsolicited thoughts) I loathe the “LOVE YOUR BODY EVERYONE IS BEAUTIFUL BE CONFIDENT” rhetoric that’s sold to women. There is no need for me to think that I’m beautiful. Why should I? Because believing that I’m aesthetically pleasing would make me more confident? I feel like the evil, evil message behind that is that confidence for women should rest on our looks. Being more aesthetically pleasing wouldn’t make me more competent. Or smarter. Or funnier, or a better friend and daughter. Isn’t that where I should derive my main source of confidence? Being more aesthetically pleasing would make me more desirable. But why should I want to be more desirable? What would that get me? More male attention? Why should my confidence rest on how much I get male attention? I need one dude to be attracted to me–the one I’m with. No one else needs to find me aesthetically pleasing, and anyway attraction is a lot more complicated than just looks. So…yeah. I don’t always love what I see in the mirror, but I also don’t feel that it matters.
Saturnalia* July 29, 2017 at 3:18 pm I’d say it’s almost easier to appreciate the function than the form. I’m pretty sure I’m not capable of that overwhelmingly confident self-love. Focusing on the things that work, the extra weight that’s gotten me through stress… if my parts are (mostly) doing their job, I should care less how they look doing it. But to directly answer the original question: nope.
Ermintrude Mulholland* July 29, 2017 at 3:29 pm No. I can’t afford to dye my hair and going white doesn’t suit me. I am disappointed I am letting myself get flabby. I like the rest but those two factors are overriding.
Clever Name* July 29, 2017 at 3:42 pm Sure! I’m very lucky that I’m in a place in my life that I like myself. I’m also lucky because (at least in my opinion) I’m more attractive than average. I hope that doesn’t sound conceited. Like I said, I feel very lucky.
nonprofit manager* July 29, 2017 at 3:54 pm Generally, yes. I am aging and have some grey hairs and some wrinkly/saggy spots on my face/neck/chest. Plus I am about 30 pounds overweight. However, I am strong and capable and otherwise healthy, and working to be even healthier. I have made peace with my physical imperfections and am happy with what I see.
Myrin* July 29, 2017 at 4:04 pm I do! I’m actually not particularly attractive but I’m a-okay with that because I really like myself! (I also have one of these faces that is basically like a blank slate – seriously, it’s very bland and non-expressive and thus super versatile – and I can technically make myself fit our standardised beauty ideas quite a lot but I choose not to most of these days.)
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 6:29 pm Some days are better than others! ha! Seriously though, I like my looks better than I used to and this is due to getting some of my health back. My mind set is less critical and more accepting in some ways. But you know, the rules change as we age. Less pressure to be “beeeeautiful” and less focus on physical appearance. More importantly, I have a better idea of who I am and what I believe in. It’s interesting how settling some internal quandaries can also help us to like the person in the mirror better.
Woman of a Certain Age* July 29, 2017 at 7:28 pm I don’t dislike what I see when I look in the mirror. But I often feel like I don’t know who that person in the reflection is. She’s much older than I am and she sort of looks my mother or an aunt or some distant cousin.
QualityControlFreak* July 30, 2017 at 12:17 am Interesting question. I’m old and grey and too skinny, but I’m strong, fit and flexible. Most of the time I’m reasonably well groomed, but my self esteem isn’t really based on how I look to other people. Sometimes I look haggard and I don’t like that. It’s been a rough road of late and I see that in my reflection.
Nic* July 30, 2017 at 1:09 am These days, yes. There was a time where I avoided mirrors specifically because I hated what (and who) I saw when I looked in them. I’d look and see someone who I didn’t recognize, who had let down childhood me so badly, and I’d be angry and sad and hurt all at once. It took a long time, but through changing both the things I didn’t like about myself and the way I talked to myself I’ve gotten to the point where I enjoy looking in the mirror and seeing what I’ve become. I feel like it’s an artist looking at a statue taking shape from a lump of clay. It’s not perfect, but it’s getting better, and there is beauty even in the flaws.
Never Nicky* July 30, 2017 at 1:44 am There’s an old Del Amitri song with the refrain “Look into the mirror, do you recognise someone? Is it who you always hoped you’d become, when you were young?” and it goes through my head a lit if I look for more than a passing gaze in the mirror. And the answer to that now is yes – which for all of my twenties and some of my thirties wasn’t the case. I am in a good place now, love my job and it gives me a sense of doing some good in the world, my partner is the right one for me, I have great relationships with family and friends and I feel that I have accomplished something in my life. Appearance wise? I am what I am. Short, fat, curly haired and middle aged. And that’s fine too.
Jen RO* July 30, 2017 at 2:45 am I don’t dislike it, I guess? Sometimes I think I look good, sometimes I think I look shit, most time I just look like me (nothing special, but I’m used to my flaws).
Bryce* July 30, 2017 at 5:01 am It took me a long time to learn to look in the mirror without flinching, but it feels SO good to do now. Major step in managing my depression. Sure I got things I’m not proud of (my teeth) and others I wouldn’t be sad to change (I carry a lot of weight in my face, though I also carry it everywhere else) but it’s my face and my body and that was never really the reason I had difficulty.
Caro in the UK* July 30, 2017 at 7:06 am Nope. I do my makeup at the edge of the mirror (only showing the bit I’m doing at that particular moment). I actually can’t remember the last time I looked at my whole face in the mirror, it’s just depressing :(
Jules the First* July 30, 2017 at 11:52 am I try not to like or dislike what’s in the mirror- it’s me, and the most important thing is that I *feel* present and at home in my body. This is something my therapist recommended when I was a teenager with a disfiguring skin condition – it’s almost entirely healed now, but I still have hang ups over the scars.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 11:54 am Sometimes I look and think, “Damn I’m still pretty good-looking; somebody awesome should hit that.” Other times, it’s more like “Just shoot me now.” At least I can actually DO it now. For a long time, I literally could not look at myself. I would look at bits and pieces, like certain items of clothing, but not at myself as a whole.
LizB* July 30, 2017 at 1:00 pm I’m trying to. It’s a process. I’ve gotten to a point where mostly I like what I see, but there’s the little voice in the back of my head going “Okay, but other people have higher standards than you do, nobody else thinks this is an okay way to look.” Now trying to shut that voice down/not care even if it is true. I was recently looking through some journals from my adolescence and found an “all about me” page where in 6th or 7th grade I had filled in the prompt “I weigh ____ lbs” with “too many,” which I know from looking at photos (and remembering that the actual number would have been around 120) was just patently untrue. And I just felt so sad for the girl I was then, who hated herself so much for absolutely no effing reason. What could those years have been like if I hadn’t been taught I needed to spend so much energy obsessing about my weight? What choices would I have made differently if I had been happy with the body I was living in and trusted that other people could love it and me? I’ve lost too much of my life to fighting myself. I don’t want to do that anymore.
Mallory Janis Ian* July 30, 2017 at 8:18 pm It’s funny: I feel more confident now when I look in the mirror than I did when I was younger and objectively better-looking. I’m older, I’ve gained weight, and I’m more natural / less high-maintenance in my presentation. I think part of it is leftover self-confidence from always being told I was pretty as a little girl and a babe as a teenager / young adult, and part of it is that I feel so much better now that my look is more about how much (or little) effort I want to put in, versus working my ass off to present myself to meet some outside standard. Not that I’m free from wanting other people to find me attractive; just that it’s a whole lot less effort to accept validation from the ones who like my look the way I, myself, like it.
Fenchurch* July 31, 2017 at 1:46 pm I am lucky to be able to say yes. Most of the time I am happy with how I look. My face has never bothered me, but sometimes my body creeps up and slaps me in the face with looking more flabby and curvaceous than usual. Those days can be rough. But overall I am happy, and I am blessed with a partner who constantly reaffirms me.
nep* July 29, 2017 at 8:16 am Started what looks like a regular period yesterday — a mere 16 days into my cycle. Usually start on day 27 or 28. Reckon just another feature of life as I approach the pause. (I’ve read that an early period can also be triggered by stress or other things.) Not complaining, as I’m healthy and grateful for that. Just — I’ll be so glad to be done with all this.
only acting normal* July 29, 2017 at 9:01 am My clockwork cycle became wildly erratic (for me) a couple of years ago. I thought it might be peri-menopause too, but turned out to be low ferritin levels, and some iron supplements levelled me out again. Lucky, as regularity is the only positive thing my cycle has going for it! Just something for consideration – as it’s usually a fairly easy diagnosis and fix.
nonprofit manager* July 29, 2017 at 3:56 pm This happened to me a few times a couple of years ago. I now appear to be very close to the pause; it’s been almost 10 months since my last period. I would only suggest mentioning it to your OB/GYN on your next visit to make sure it’s not a sign of any problem.
selenejmr* July 29, 2017 at 5:14 pm I was at 9 months, 21 days, then bam! period. Then 3 weeks later another one. Hoping that is the last one.
Rebecca* July 29, 2017 at 9:17 pm Me too, I was on depo for other issues, so at age 53 (on my birthday) I had my last shot. 9 months later, a full period! Then nothing for 2 months, then a period…then 1 each month on the dot for 3 months…then 2 months…then 3 in a row…and now I skipped 3 months, and had a very light almost non-period for 5 days. I hope it soon stops! I have to carry feminine hygiene stuff with me everywhere I go, since I have no idea when it will hit, and I started to carry an extra pair of underwear too. GO AWAY!! You have done your duty. It’s time to stop. I’m keeping track for my doctor’s office but they said it will run its course in due time. Sighs.
Yada yada...ya* July 29, 2017 at 8:21 am On the subject of blogging: I’m quite interested in writing, but don’t really have a focus area at the moment, and not all that familiar with the blogosphere in general…so I was wondering, are there any topic areas that are truly ‘saturated’ with blogs now? (Like…pretty much any photo blog featuring avocado or the like…)
The Other Dawn* July 29, 2017 at 9:45 am I blog, but it’s not really focused on anything but me. I like it, though, because I just write whatever I feel like writing and I’m actively trying to grow a big audience. I don’t read a lot of blogs, but I do feel like food blogging is just really over saturated.
Sprechen Sie Talk?* July 29, 2017 at 2:59 pm Personal finance feels somewhat saturated, although there are a ton of sub topics that could be covered. I think it depends on if you want it as a creative outlet, something to make money, or both. I have a friend who writes on obscure UK import albums from the post punk era of ONLY 1978-1985 or so (postpunkmonk, which is the greatest name ever). He has a small following and doesn’t monetize his site or anything, its just a labor of love and a creative outlet for him. Its almost refreshing not to see the standard “how to blog” “income reports” and other slick photography on a blog! Writing tends to beget writing – why not just get a blog up and running and start writing? Even if its just ramblings in your head?
Ego Chamber* July 30, 2017 at 5:21 am “are there any topic areas that are truly ‘saturated’ with blogs now?” This is the internet: everything is truly saturated, almost by design. The thing about that is it doesn’t matter if you’re the millionth photoblog featuring hawt avocado-on-avocado action, as long as 1) your style is compelling, and 2) people can find you. Like they said in a softer world, “We are all fucked and we are all saved.” (the comic is linked in my name on this one because a softer world was consistently genius and I’m sad it’s over) Do whatever you want, because you’ll be more interested in something you want to do than in something that seems “marketable,” and if you spend years on it and it never goes anywhere, you won’t be resentful the same way you would be if you’d spent all that time on something you didn’t even like, you know?
Keira* July 29, 2017 at 8:26 am When it comes to online dating, how much of a time investment is it? (Part of the reason I’m considering it is due to being time-poor at the moment – and might be for a while yet). I realise it must come down to individual choice, but for those who’ve done it, what is the minimum time you need to make it in any way meaningful? Just in terms of communication and the like? Not even including the in-person meetings, but how much time would you spend on, say, messaging matches etc?
Aurora Leigh* July 29, 2017 at 9:32 am It does really come down to individual choice. I had a friend who put hours a day into it. She was on multiple sites, etc. She really wanted to meet someone to settle down with within a year and she was determined to meet as many people as possible and do all the the things lol. To be fair it worked out for her. Me . . . I put an hour or two into crafting a good profile and finding a handful of pictures and then only checked occasionally. I also didn’t pay anything until there was someone I wanted to message, so I didn’t feel like I needed to be making contacts to get my money’s worth. And it worked for me! I met a great guy and we’ve been together almost 6 months now. :)
Librarian of the North* July 29, 2017 at 10:17 am Super individual based not just on yourself but your matches. There’s some guys I put hours of communication into that didn’t work out or went nowhere. My Husband and I exchanged maybe a dozen messages before we met up. Total pre-date investment in him to my memory was like 30 minutes.
HannahS* July 29, 2017 at 2:42 pm Very much a personal choice. I’d say that I spent maybe an hour and a half a week on messages? But I don’t think I did it right. Women tend to get inundated with “hey babe you up” kind of messages, so I wish I’d spent more time seeking out men and initiating than trying to keep up with politely rejecting people who hadn’t thoroughly read my profile.
No, please* July 29, 2017 at 3:47 pm I have a strange step mother-in-law and FIL. SMIL has no kids of her own and is the youngest child of an immigrant family. As far as I know she has no family in the US besides my FIL and us. She has said things about our toddler that really make me wonder if she’s was just born an adult, or never had a real childhood herself? Famous family quotes include “Do you think he can think?”, and “If you don’t cut his hair he’ll be cross-eyed!” When they fly out to see us they can’t understand why our two year old doesn’t want to (forcibly) hug them or be tickled. They also refuse to spend time with us that isn’t at the dinner hour. They fly from CA to TX just for dinner, at least that’s how it seems. No two year old wants to sit in a restaurant for a long family visit. We have explained this repeatedly, but what do we know? They send gifts that are dangerous for toddlers, like metal toys with sharp edges and tiny, bite sized pieces. When they ask if he liked his gift we just say yes because past attempts of explaining toys that are safe just go in one ear and out of the other. I love my mother in law (luckily) and absolutely understand she divorced my FIL. He was drunk for most of my husbands upbringing and has no real memory of what small children really want or need. He’s sober now and not a bad guy, just not really grandpa material. I can also tell he’s a chauvinist so I just stick to small talk. My dads been dead for five years and I wish my son could have known him. My dad loved young kids and understood how their minds work.
Stellaaaaa* July 29, 2017 at 5:52 pm I think you need to go into it expecting that you’ll get out of it whatever you put into it. If you don’t have a lot of time for dating or for investing in a potential relationship, that’s going to close a lot of doors and might make you frustrated with the process. Your situation is 100% reasonable, but it’s also understandable that people who want relationships aren’t going to be thrilled to find out that this isn’t great timing for you. If you don’t have a lot of time for dating, you’re going to match best with people who also don’t have a lot of time for dating. Personally, if I match with a guy and he tells me that he’s too busy to date in a pre-serious way, I wonder why he’s on dating sites and actively looking for women. That’s actually the reason I stopped using dating sites. Too many people using it “just to see what’s out there” but not able or interested in real dating. I don’t know if any of this is helpful, but if you were wondering if dating sites a worth it for people who don’t have time for serious relationships, there you have it. With online dating, my sense is that if it’s going to work for you, you’ll know pretty quickly. If you go a month without any decent matches, it’s not for you. It’ll just frustrate you if you keep seeing bad matches and flaky people.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 11:58 am I had no luck with it at all. But I’m guessing that has more to do with where I live–my target demographic during the time I was giving it the most effort tends to already be married or taken here. I mean, everybody gets married at like, twelve. There are far more single women than men and the single men tend to either be college age or they look like Santa.
anon24* July 29, 2017 at 8:34 am Anyone want to share your crazy in-law stories? Or if your family was the crazy in-laws? Been a lot of family drama lately and I’d love to hear about other people’s craziness!
the gold digger* July 29, 2017 at 10:24 am If I may be so bold as to refer you to my blog (link in my name – the gold digger), which is almost exclusively about my crazy in-laws (threatened to boycott our wedding, told my husband I was a Bad Bacon- Eater, threatened suicide when my husband said he wasn’t coming for Christmas, threatened to disinherit my husband if he didn’t Get [Me] In Line – he didn’t and they did, left porn and sex equipment and photos of themselves naked with the equipment for my husband to find after they died, etc, etc, etc.)
anon24* July 29, 2017 at 10:35 am Oh boy! *rubs hands together while giggling maniacally* I bookmarked your blog. I know what I’m doing tomorrow while I’m hanging out at home :)
Librarian of the North* July 29, 2017 at 10:33 am I am SO here for this. Don’t even know where to start… I have a 6 month old baby and my MIL has always been an overly dramatic narcissist but the birth of our child has really ramped it up. Here’s a few things that have happened since we announced I was pregnant. – Told me 5 times in one visit she wasn’t excited for us because I could lose the baby (I was not high risk) – Tried to convince her side of the family they weren’t invited to our coed baby shower so she could plan her own – Stalked us while I was in labour calling everyone she knows who knows me to find out where I was – Attempted to feed my then 4 month old iced coffee – Multiple times has called herself “Mommy” to the baby and says the baby looks so much like my husband that sometimes she gets confused and thinks the baby is him – When we postponed Easter a few days because we didn’t want to take our 6 week old baby out in a blizzard she literally sobbed that she couldn’t believe we “could do this to her.” – Asked if my 5 day old baby was on a schedule and called my Husband to “get me in line” when she questioned my parenting (again, of my 5 day old baby) and I told her I have it under control There’s so much more.
SouthernLadybug* July 29, 2017 at 11:14 am I am so sorry. I’m impressed you aren’t writing this from jail. I would not have reacted well to a lot of that.
Librarian of the North* July 29, 2017 at 12:58 pm Thank you. We’ve been to couple’s counselling over how to deal with her and I have upcoming therapy on my own as well. It is truly never ending.
tigerStripes* July 30, 2017 at 9:13 pm Captain Awkward has good advice for this type of thing. https://captainawkward.com/
nep* July 29, 2017 at 4:22 pm ‘I’m impressed you aren’t writing this from jail.’ I just want to say — that is quite a clever and funny line.
nep* July 29, 2017 at 4:37 pm By the way, Librarian — not at all to make light of your situation. It sounds awful. Just appreciating SouthernLadybug’s line.
anon because...MIL* July 29, 2017 at 11:48 am I highly recommend JustnoMIL on Reddit for these stories! My in laws are pretty annoying, particularly my MIL. Basically her whole identity is wrapped up in being a mom, so when her kids grew up and moved out she still wanted to control their lives. Husband went along with it (path of least resistance, basically) until I came into the picture and told him that his mom calling the shots was going to be a dealbreaker for me. You will probably not be surprised to hear that I’m not her favorite person. Things she has done since we got together – went and peeked in the windows of houses we were considering purchasing, because she picked out his first house and was upset we didn’t bring her along to do the same this time. Tried to pick our color scheme/decor for the new house. Wanted input on the kids names and made her dislike for our youngest child’s name known. Made lots of snotty comments about how our wedding was too fancy (it was only semi formal…she was mad we didn’t have a casual backyard BBQ wedding like her daughter because everything her daughter does is the best.) She tried to sneak into the delivery room and kept texting my husband complaining it was taking too long (even though we’d told her not to come yet) and snuck in to take pictures of my husband after he changed into his scrubs (while I was in the OR sobbing for him as they prepped me for an emergency c-section – I hate those pictures.) Says I’m too strict with my kids. Lied to me and let her dog with a history of biting/attacking around my kid when I left the room for a second – and he did get bit, thank god not badly. Personality-wise…well, besides being a control freak, she’s also bigoted. Says she can’t help it because she grew up in a small town. Every time we go out to eat she finds things to complain about to try to get a discount. She’s always arguing with cashiers over coupons she wants to use in ways that are clearly not allowed. That kind of annoying. And she majorly plays favorites. Since her daughter is the favorite child, her daughter’s kids are the favorite too. The oldest is awful – he once beat the crap out of a little kid for no reason and told us he likes hurting people. He tells my kids he hates them and they should never come over. Calls my two year old a stupid baby. Throws things. Growls and hisses at adults for looking at him. When I try to make conversation he calls me annoying and says to stop talking. Yet he is the favorite and she’s constantly taking him on special trips and sees him almost every single day. Meanwhile she always tells my oldest that she’s busy when he asks to see her (even though after she does finally see him she always raves about how good and polite he is.) Wow. That was a lot. I will sum this all up by saying we don’t see my in laws too much.
No, please* July 29, 2017 at 4:01 pm Gooood night, that is all just truly awful! I am sincerely sorry.
..Kat..* July 31, 2017 at 5:23 am Please, please, please start protecting your children from this woman!
AnotherAlison* July 29, 2017 at 12:04 pm I’ll go toe-to-toe with anyone on crazy in-laws (except maybe gold digger). The good thing about mine is they live nowhere near me, and we don’t have a whole lot of contact with them. That’s the only good thing. My MIL has been divorced 7 times. She is 63, lives in a trailer that her sister owns and she can barely pay lot rent. She was a legal secretary for her career, but has been un- or under-employed for the last 10 years and has nothing now. She had a condo that she bought for $165,000 in the 90s, took out all the equity ($400k) pre-recession, and lost it in the recession. Separately, she has declared bankruptcy twice. So, I worry that if anything happens to her sister, she will end up with us. She has nothing. MIL put my SIL in foster care when she was a young teenager, and when my husband was 16, MIL moved from NY to FL and didn’t take him with her. He went to his dad’s for a couple months, that didn’t work out, and he ended up living with his aunt and uncle in the mid-west, where we still live now. (Aunt and Uncle and all his cousins moved to FL in the late 1990s.) His mom and dad were divorced when he was 2, and his dad got remarried to the classic evil stepmom. There is a story about the time my husband and his sister were at his dad’s, got picked up by his mom at a strip mall, and when they had to go back to get a forgotten backpack, the stepkids were getting treated to ice cream. That was just one small thing, but the stepmom would never treat him and his sister nicely. The stepbrother was the oldest and biggest and allowed to hold my husband down and beat him. His dad got divorced a couple years ago (after 30+ yrs marriage), and is now marrying a woman who is my SIL’s age. She has two kids, and the youngest is 13 (same age as MY youngest son) and is bipolar. That family lived with the girlfriend’s parents before, so obviously a very successful situation. My FIL also has nothing. Anything he did have had a big payment on it, and he had to split stuff up in the divorce. Please don’t let these people end up living with me. My SIL is a piece of work herself. She has 3 daughters, by 3 different dads, who are in their early 20s now. Two are strippers, and the middle one had her first kid when she was 15. (My SIL had her oldest when she was 16). One of the dads is in prison for drug dealing. SIL was married to a guy later who was a liar. He had about 7 previous kids she didn’t know about. Things ended after she found out he was picking up prostitutes, but they were together for almost 10 years. They actually never got divorced, but he got eye cancer and died a couple years ago. She’s now dating a guy who has a really weird life story. He retired at 50 because he inherited a bunch of money from a grandma that he never even met, who lived in the backwoods of VA with no electricity, and had a good job at AT&T and put all her money in the bank. Only, this guy and my SIL have been together about 5 years and break up every year because he can’t deal with her “previous lifestyle.” Then he gets over it and they get back together. Then, my husband has a half-brother who is in prison. He’s a disgusting person. My own family is just normal crazy. I’m not sure how I ended up with those people.
Obi-wan's wife* July 29, 2017 at 1:07 pm Oh gosh. All I can add is those of you with MIL problems, just pray daily they don’t get dementia? Husband was only surviving child when MIL got diagnosed, yet she’d had it a while. Spent every penny she had and only received $675 in SS a month. We had to take her in. It was the most difficult 5 years of my life. Daily accusations of me trying to poison her food, that there was a man trying to break into the house to kill her and the inability to do basic needs for herself made me so depressed. It’s not that I couldn’t suck it up and help her, I did. But it’s not even close to caring for a child. Children want help. She was sure I had it out for her. With my husband gone at work more than full time it was really difficult. It’s not for the feint of heart. Make sure your parents and in-laws have forward looking plans to care for themselves in the future!
Julianne* July 29, 2017 at 4:33 pm Oh, that’s hard, I’m sorry you had to go through that. My grandmother also had some paranoia as part of her dementia, with my uncle (her youngest daughter’s husband) as the target. We didn’t know how common this type of thinking was at the time, which made it much harder on my aunt and uncle and their kids – it’s not that the rest of the family believed that Uncle Fergus was trying to kill Grandma, of course, we just really didn’t know how to respond at all. There are some sporadic cases of dementia on the other side of the family as well, with both grandparents still alive in their early 90s, and we’re bracing ourselves for what may be coming up.
Julia Gulia* July 29, 2017 at 5:21 pm The worst is caring for someone with dementia who was previously a sh!tty person. My physically abusive FIL now has Alzheimer’s, and I’m convinced that the disease only makes you more of who you already were. At least he’s wasted away enough that we can overpower him when he starts to swing.
Ermintrude Mulholland* July 29, 2017 at 3:37 pm FIL after the birth of our child swore at me as I was in the depths of pnd because I told my SIL her advice wasn’t helping and lectured me about what a good mum she was. Came to child’s christening and told endless ‘hilarious ‘ stories of hb’s childhood which were essentially all degrading and utterly disrespectful. Seems to think he is the best dad in the world who would never let his kids suffer – ignores the fact that when hb was at university, he was so poor he had to eat cardboard…
No, please* July 29, 2017 at 3:53 pm I have a strange step mother-in-law and FIL. SMIL has no kids of her own and is the youngest child of an immigrant family. As far as I know she has no family in the US besides my FIL and us. She has said things about our toddler that really make me wonder if she’s was just born an adult, or never had a real childhood herself? Famous family quotes include “Do you think he can think?”, and “If you don’t cut his hair he’ll be cross-eyed!” When they fly out to see us they can’t understand why our two year old doesn’t want to (forcibly) hug them or be tickled. They also refuse to spend time with us that isn’t at the dinner hour. They fly from CA to TX just for dinner, at least that’s how it seems. No two year old wants to sit in a restaurant for a long family visit. We have explained this repeatedly, but what do we know? They send gifts that are dangerous for toddlers, like metal toys with sharp edges and tiny, bite sized pieces. When they ask if he liked his gift we just say yes because past attempts of explaining toys that are safe just go in one ear and out of the other. I love my mother in law (luckily) and absolutely understand she divorced my FIL. He was drunk for most of my husbands upbringing and has no real memory of what small children really want or need. He’s sober now and not a bad guy, just not really grandpa material. I can also tell he’s a chauvinist so I just stick to small talk. My dads been dead for five years and I wish my son could have known him. My dad loved young kids and understood how their minds work.
Temperance* July 29, 2017 at 3:54 pm I have shared here before the story about my FIL throwing on a suit and handing out his resume to anyone who looked important, so I’ll admit openly that my family is the crazy one. My mom is mentally ill and as part of that, she sort of sees herself as #1 in her children’s lives. Like, to the point of telling my sister not to get married when she was pregnant so the baby could “be part of our family” and she could raise it. Or telling me and other people, INCLUDING HIS MOTHER, that Booth wouldn’t marry me because I drove him to drink and made him an alcoholic. (I didn’t, he’s not … we just drink, and my mother is a teetotaler because my grandmother is one.) She’s done other stuff that is wacky, but that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Essie* July 29, 2017 at 5:18 pm My MIL was a manipulative narcissist who enjoyed every second of having a long-term, incurable disease. She refused to let her children go to college more than 30 minutes away and flipped out if they even thought about moving out of town, because they all had to be around to wait on her hand and foot and pay homage to her at all times. She destroyed the careers of two of her children by refusing to allow them to move for specialty training, and they were so brainwashed from their upbringing that they wouldn’t go against her wishes. Every disagreement was “won” by her claiming she should get whatever she wanted due to her illness. The best incident (from an anecdote perspective) was when my husband was planning to cook dinner and she wanted a more difficult, time-consuming meal. They argued and she proclaimed “I could die tomorrow, so you better make me roast beef.” She didn’t develop serious complications under more than a decade after that incident. Angels sang when that b!tch dropped dead.
Anon-in-law* July 30, 2017 at 7:33 am My sister in law is pretty bad. Highlights include over excited screaming in my face at our wedding (once I can put down as error in judgement the second was after I’d told her not to do it). Informing my husband of the gifts we should buy for her and her husband, we did not request this information and the gifts were 2-3x our budget. Telling us to bring the receipt for the gift we’d bought because it was “wrong” i.e. not the gift she’d told us to buy. There’s more, basically until I can along everyone just did what she told them to, her parents still do. My parents in law just have zero boundaries which is why they are no longer welcome in my house. A nail in the coffin was arranging a family celebration without asking if we were available (we weren’t) then moving it because another family member couldn’t make it and not telling us the new date. They are also all totally conflict avoidant (hence giving in to SIL) so they never ask my husband why we don’t visit/invite them.
Rebecca* July 29, 2017 at 8:45 am I’m heading off to my parent’s house, and keeping my fingers crossed the rain stays to the south so I can get 3 of my Dad’s tractors out. With any luck, I’m going to figure out the shift pattern on the Farmall F14, and get the Case and Allis Chalmers (all pre 1950) started and hopefully take them for a short drive down the field and back. A family looked at the Case this week, but I haven’t gotten an answer as to whether they’ll be buying it or not. I’m hoping to sell them this summer. And don’t laugh, I may wear a helmet when I do this, just in case. Mom needs gas in her new car, so I have to do that for her today. She still won’t pump gas, and we don’t have full service here. Sighs.
Obi-wan's wife* July 29, 2017 at 1:20 pm Good luck with the tractor sales! My husband would end up buying one if we were close.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 6:56 pm Not laughing about the helmet thing. That is really smart. My friend had a ’48 Farmall and man that thing would bounce the driver around like a ping-pong ball. Plus sitting six feet up in the air. We have come a long way in establishing routine safety features. Pumping gas. In my state everyone pretty much pumps their own. But I do know that some places are empathetic with people who have a difficult time doing this. Perhaps you could talk to a manager of a local station and ask if his crew could pump gas for your mother. I think that convenience stores would be most likely to say yes, but it’s worth a shot anywhere. It’d have to be a convenience store with more than one person on duty at a given time. Good luck with your sales. I hope that moves right along for you.
Bloop* July 29, 2017 at 9:18 am My university has decided that my service dog can’t be in any campus buildings last semester because a student falsely claimed my dog bit him. This has lead to me being hospitalized on and off during the end of the semester and being forced out of my housing. I’m settled in a new apartment, weekly therapy sessions, and have trained intensively with my dog. Since the Fall semester is starting soon, I’ve reached back out to talk to the university about my dog returning. It hasn’t gone very well. They keep saying that my dog has a history of biting students. So I’m putting in on this labor to get this done when basically everyone agrees, as my therapist put it, “They’re really f****** you over.” (So validating to hear that.) In my session today we addressed the idea of me taking a semester off as I will have to do if the school continues to ban my service dog from campus. It was a really difficult conversation. I’m hurting and exhausted at the prospect of returning to school and… I just don’t know.
nep* July 29, 2017 at 9:32 am Sorry you’re having to face this. What were the circumstances of that alleged biting incident? On what is the university basing its claim that your dog has a history of biting people?
Bloop* July 29, 2017 at 9:38 am I’m not at all comfortable answering the first question because of the identifying details involved. If this is ever linked back to me I want to maintain plausible deniability that this isn’t actually about my circumstances. As for the second one – campus security observed, on several occasions, my dog playing with other students while not vested. (This is also a campus where a lot of people come to just walk there dogs because it’s very beautiful with a lot of good walking paths.) Combined with the one alleged incident is where they are getting the idea that he has a history of biting.
Research assistant* July 29, 2017 at 12:02 pm Just so you know, for anonymity, above you mentioned the school name already
AfterBurner313* July 29, 2017 at 2:36 pm I don’t know what when down with the bite issue. I’m guessing there is either campus police report and or ER report. For a “bite”, it doesn’t have to look like a shark wound, it can be scratches from the dog’s teeth. It has to break the skin (a scratch is a skin break). That is enough to sue. No, I am not kidding. Legally you have to be in control of your animal at all times, and this includes a leash. For your dog to not be vested and playing (was it off leash?) the university has a very good claim your dog is really not a service animal. The bonus round is the alleged bite. Like I said before, this doesn’t have to be a need 18 stitches bite. It could be a bruise and a scrap that broke the skin. The liability of you not “keeping your dog under control”, and them getting sued trumps you need this PARTICULAR dog. What will most likely shake out is… Yes you can have a service dog. It must be vested and leashed (harnessed) while on any campus facility. It can not be this PARTICULAR dog. If you received this dog from a company that has a long tracker record training services dogs, I would contact them ASAP. Maybe you can “swap” the dog out if push comes to shove. Maybe you can find a local person and work with them, and it will give you a sliver of a chance. If the dog is one you picked, then yourself trained, it will be an uphill battle. The letting the dog playing, when it should be working in public really sank your chances with university. A family friend has an autism service dog for her son. They are fanatical about it not being petted and interacting with in public. The dog is a working dog. The dog does get down time, but the down time is with another family member taking him out. I have a feeling it is more the dog not actually working, but playing on campus that is causing the problem than the bite. You could have taken the dog to a city dog park, and the university wouldn’t have cared. The fact you asked for an accommodation, and weren’t following standard protocol is why they are questioning in the dog. A service dog is a working dog. You need the dog while being on campus. A service dog needs to be vested and working since you need this accommodation on campus. While campus, the dog wasn’t vested and was interacting with the public (a huge no for service dogs). This why the university has their diapers in a wad. The alleged bite is the bonus round. You may need to look for another dog. It is awful, but the university is playing hardball, and does have a case against this particular dog. Good luck.
Bloop* July 29, 2017 at 5:48 pm No wound. Literally none. Dog is leashed at all times. Other dogs are allowed to play on campus.
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 8:55 pm Other dogs aren’t working dogs, though. Presumably other dogs aren’t going to be allowed in classes and dining halls (except if you’re at A&M, but then it’s only Reveille)
Bloop* July 30, 2017 at 7:22 am Okay, so I live right next to campus, if my neighbors are allowed to take their dogs onto campus to walk them and play with them, then why am I not allowed to?
TL -* July 30, 2017 at 8:53 am Because your dog is a working dog. You’re taking your dog to class and to the dining hall and to all these other places that other dogs aren’t allowed to go, so the optics of your dog being a working dog on campus, and never a pet, are really important. I can see how that might be a pickle if you live on campus but I think not blurring the lines between pet/service animal is really important. Your dog sounds lovely and the bite thing sounds like bull (and I’m sorry they’re doing that to you!). I hope you and the university can work something out.
AfterBurner313* July 29, 2017 at 11:05 pm You are misunderstanding. A service dog WORKS. My friend’s autism dog never ever plays or “acts like a pet” in public. Your dog (because it is an accommodation, not a pet) should not be interacting with people on campus. A good service dog/animal should almost be invisible to the general public. My BIL is a psychiatrist and does write the once in a while RX for a service dog. His minimum is the dog has the AKC Good Citizen certificate. At least the dog and the patient has gone through the obedience training, so the dog isn’t causing issues out in public. Also, the patient can control the dog. He’d much rather have the two work with a psychiatric service dog trainer, but that costs $$$. He also has the patient read the state guide lines for service animal accommodations. People can get confused on the rules. A service dog in an office setting can’t be playing catch/doing tricks/being a pet while you are at work. You can’t take it to the grassy area on company property to play fetch during lunch. Whatever job the service animal suppose to do for you, that is it. For the university to go death con 5 on a service animal, I wonder what paper trail they have against you, and who complained. Honestly, there is no up side for them to get involved. There has to be more than one person who complained about your dog. Prof, dorm mates who knows… If you have an attorney, that is probably where I would start. Who had a supposed axe to grind against you? I send you good vibes that everyone can work this out with minimal grief. The whole thing sounds like a nightmare.
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 11:54 pm Wait. Did the dog bite someone (in play or otherwise?) on campus or is someone saying the dog bit them and your dog has never laid teeth on a person? Because a working dog who nips anyone while they’re supposed to be working is a big problem. And your dog should be working the entire time you’re on campus. Even if it was a play nip, during roughhousing, didn’t break the skin scenario – that shouldn’t happen with your dog on campus, ever.
TL -* July 30, 2017 at 8:54 am Ugh. I’m sorry someone is being mean to your dog, then. That’s a horrible accusation to make to any innocent animal.
bassclefchick* July 29, 2017 at 12:56 pm I briefly scanned the FAQ of the ADA website. Service animals generally can’t be banned from public spaces per the Department of Justice. The list did not specifically address biting, though. Is it possible for you to contact a lawyer who specializes in ADA disputes for a consultation?
Bloop* July 29, 2017 at 1:36 pm I am working with a lawyer. Unfortunately we don’t want to University to know that at the moment so I still have to write all the responses, send it to her for approval, and then wait. The University should have gone through the court system to ban my dog from campus, however, we don’t want to sue over any of this because I don’t really have the choice of changing school because of my financial circumstances.
Mimmy* July 29, 2017 at 2:26 pm A person with a service animal can be asked to leave a place that’s covered by the ADA if the animal poses a legitimate health or safety risk or has hurt another person. The document I’m referencing (from the ADA National Network, which has TONS of information on all things ADA) does not specifically address instances where there’s a history of inappropriate or dangerous behavior, as Bloop’s school is alleging, but it does say that if a service animal is excluded, the person with a disability should be offered the opportunity to obtain “goods, services and accommodations” without the animal present. This sounds like a difficult situation – Bloop, I really hope that this gets resolved fairly. Good luck!
Bloop* July 29, 2017 at 2:31 pm Thank you so much for the support and well wishes. It is difficult because my disability is such that I can’t receive the services offered by the school without the dog. It would really suck for things to fall apart last minute when it comes to my return. But by the same token I’d kind of like to take a break from it. Figure out what kind of job I can do and would be good at. Breathe a little. It’s all just so uncertain.
bunniferous* July 29, 2017 at 12:58 pm I do not know if this is an option, but would a muzzle worn on campus solve the dilemma?
Bloop* July 29, 2017 at 1:37 pm Oh, once this is sorted he’s wearing a muzzle whenever we’re on campus. This was so messed up, total he said she. Service dog handler’s don’t usually muzzle their dogs because if they dog is aggressive it can be removed so the muzzle can be used against it and it generally gives off a bad impression of service dogs as a whole.
Temperance* July 29, 2017 at 1:05 pm Bloop, why don’t you reach out to the Legal Clinic for the Disabled to see if they have any advice for you?
Temperance* July 29, 2017 at 1:06 pm Alison, please feel free to remove my comment if this makes Bloop uncomfortable, since I recommended an org in the city where Bloop attends school.
Bloop* July 29, 2017 at 1:40 pm I am working with a lawyer, and she’s been a hug help. Unfortunately the school’s in a position to hurt me even more so lawyer and I can’t even do much. (Also thank you Alison for being wonderful. And commentators for the support, I’ve been going through this for so long, and I just finally needed to say something.)
Jessi* July 29, 2017 at 10:01 pm Bloop – could you do all of your classes remotely? many of my lectures were recorded and tons of the lectures put their slides/ notes up on the web. Could you ask for this to be done?
CatCat* July 29, 2017 at 9:23 am Has anyone here ever purchased property with more than one dwelling on it (like a duplex, or 2 buildings on one lot) to share with a relative? Is there something different about that process vs. buying a single dwelling? Other things to know/think about? I have a beloved aging relative with a single family home who lives in the same geographic area as me who wants to stay in the area, but wants to downgrade her living situation to a smaller place and have a smaller mortgage so she can travel more. She can afford a down payment on a place, but even with a sizeable down payment, she hasn’t found anything in the area that would give her much smaller of a mortgage. She’s thinking of moving out of state, but that is not her first choice and I also worry about her being very far away as she ages and may need more help. We could pay a mortgage for not more than our rent if we had a down payment, which we don’t, and her share of mortgage payments would be half what she’s paying now. So this may be a reasonable solution. Getting along with this relative is not an issue and we have a high level of trust. We’re in the early steps of exploring this possibility so I’d be interested in anyone’s insight into making a purchase like this.
Anono-me* July 29, 2017 at 9:57 am I would be concerned about the potential impact to your home you have a falling out or if the other person has to sell the property and you get an unpleasant neighbor. Especially as your relative is elderly and you are concerned about their health in the future and in the USA at least there are all sorts of rules about assets and nursing home benefits. Could your relative loan you the money for the down payment and rent 1/2 of the duplex from you. (Please be aware that you may need to use a local lending expert as this would be a more complex loan.)
Optimistic Prime* July 29, 2017 at 1:17 pm If I were the relative in that situation, I would not necessarily agree to that arrangement. Even if I were close, me renting the duplex means I could be kicked out at any time – no protections for me staying in a place that I paid a significant proportion of.
Anono-me* July 29, 2017 at 4:13 pm I apologize, I should have been more specific. I meant a legally binding loan something like a second mortgage, but called something else when it is for the down payment on a home.
Not So NewReader* July 30, 2017 at 7:18 am That could be hard to find. Many mortgage places do not like the fact that you are paying a separate loan for the down payment.
Episkey* July 29, 2017 at 10:04 am I never have personally, but I work for a real estate agent where we often have listings that have 2 buildings on one lot — a main house & a guest/coach house. We are in an affluent area, so often these are larger estate type homes. There is nothing different about the purchase other than the inspections might be more expensive if you would like both buildings inspected. Sometime our clients specify the extra building (the non-main home) is “as-is.” I can’t speak to duplex properties, though.
WG* July 29, 2017 at 10:16 am A family member purchased a duplex with a friend some years ago for the benefit of owning their own homes and not being at the whim of landlords. But neither had the financial resources to own their own home. It can be important to have written out who is responsible for what, how shared expenses such as property taxes are paid, what happens when one of them passes, etc. They did determine what the shared expenses are (trash pickup, taxes, insurance, maintenance, etc) and created a separate bank account that they each deposit a set amount into each month to ensure the funds are there when the bills come due. And they readjust the amount regularly as costs increase/change. They worked through a lawyer and put the property into a trust and the trust document covers the issues of what happens when one of them dies, so that neither set of heirs can push the other owner out of the property.
C* July 29, 2017 at 11:21 am Look to see if Lennar is building any NexGen houses in your area. There are multiple floor plans but it is a house with smaller attached unit. The attached unit has a separate entrance & a door to the main house so you can be as separate or as connected as you want. And the smaller unit has a kitchen, living room, bathroom, bedroom, etc. (And I believe all smaller units are on the first floor so it would be good for an aging relative.)
Temperance* July 29, 2017 at 1:09 pm I would consider other possibilities before doing this. My MIL has done this with her parents, and their care has destroyed her life. It also limited her in many other ways, including being unable to relocate to live near her grandchildren or find a better job. If you want to have a family of your own or a partner, this is probably not a good scenario.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 7:18 pm Get everything in writing and get a lawyer to help you. The problem is not between you and the dear family member. The problem is a) outsiders to this living arrangement that may have stake in her estate, this includes nieces and nephews and b) state laws. I assume that you all intend that if anything should happen to any of you, (heaven forbid) then the survivors will inherit the deceased share of the property. Problem 1. In NY for example, if there is no will then NY has a chart of who gets what percentage of the estate. Yes, our government distributes your estate for you if you have no will. Problem 2. If your family member has a catastrophic illness and corresponding medical bills a shared ownership in a piece of property might become a problem if you have not had a lawyer help you set this up to protect everyone’s interest. (Keep in mind, just because we are younger than some of our relatives does not guarantee that we will out live them. So your family member also needs protection if something happens to you.) When I was house hunting my father was still alive. I wanted a place for him to live during the winter as winters in his region were very harsh. At first I thought about a shared mortgage, for maybe five seconds. Given his setting that was not going to work. So I moved to the idea of him renting from us for a modest amount of money. Long story very short, what I ended up with was a modest house with a guest room, that other people could use also. I was very sad because of this outcome, it was not my dream. Then my father passed 14 months after we bought the house. If we had been dependent on his income to keep the house we would have been sunk right then. Everyone involved in this transaction should have an idea what they would do if one party is removed from the setting. I have a two thumbs up for the guest room idea, but you see my reasons for that bias.
Aurora Leigh* July 29, 2017 at 9:23 am Does anyone have tips for ways to fade acne scars without breaking the bank? From about age 13 on through college I had bad acne on my back and shoulders (the kind of acne that was painful and would burst on their own and bleed . . .it was gross!). Anyway, 12 years since my skin troubles started, things are finally settling down. I still have monthly breakouts, but they’re just normal run of the mill zits. But as you would expect, my back is pretty scarred from the past decade. I’d like to try to start fading the marks if possible, but I don’t want to spend a lot of money. Thanks for any tips!
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 10:51 am If they’re actual scars, there’s nothing OTC that will provably do it (even Mederma and Vitamin E don’t survive double-blinded tests); the pigmentation isn’t a separate issue from the scarring. But it wouldn’t hurt to talk to a derm about possible treatments just to see what the cost is, and then you can start investigating likely results and whether it would be worth it to you.
Kimberlee, Esq.* July 29, 2017 at 12:54 pm Yeah, I agree with going to a dermatologist. I have have a skin condition (no one is sure what it is, other than severely dry skin, that scales and peels if untreated), and I never got treatment for it as a kid cause my mom was just like “why go to a dermatologist? It’ll be expensive, and all they’ll do is prescribe an expensive cream.” Finally went to see one when I was thirty(!) and turns out, they prescribed a steroid cream that costs like $7 for two tubes every couple of months. I hate that I waited so long… a lot of prescription skin stuff is really old and the generics are cheap. Good luck!
Clever Name* July 29, 2017 at 5:37 pm Ugh. My almost ex husband is like this. “Why should I go to the doctor? They’ll just tell me I have what I’ve already decided I have based on an internet search and it will be a waste of money” funnily enough, since he’s not a doctor, he’s usually wrong about what he thinks he has.
blackcat* July 29, 2017 at 3:16 pm Can you reach many of the scars? And/or do you have a close friend/roommate/SO that would be okay touching your scars? One of the most effective ways to reduce scar tissue is regular, firm rubbing. This will particularly help if the scars are raised.
Cruciatus* July 29, 2017 at 5:04 pm So, these probably aren’t the cheap options you were hoping for, but this happened to pop up in my Facebook feed today: http://www.self.com/gallery/5-types-of-acne-scars-and-how-to-treat-them?mbid=social_facebook Based on that article it kind of looks like a dermatologist is your best and safest bet. The article seems mostly focused on the face, but I (admittedly not a doctor) don’t see why some of that advice couldn’t also be for other areas of the body. When I visited one years ago (for cystic acne) it really wasn’t too bad money wise. The worst part was trying to get into one. I think I had to wait 3 months. Insurance paid a portion of it and the price for the creams and other things I used was also not bad and lasted a long time. It might be worth it just to talk with one!
Adara* July 29, 2017 at 8:40 pm I’ve had success with the Dermagist acne scars fading system. It’s a cleanser and scar fading lotion and worked really well for me. http://www.dermagist.com
Jules the First* July 30, 2017 at 12:20 pm I don’t have any specific suggestions, but I wanted to weigh in from ten years down the line and say that time, sunshine, and a good moisturiser will do wonders. I had a disfiguring skin condition from the age of 12 until my mid-twenties (the kind of thing that bleeds at the drop of a hat and left me with full-thickness scars when we finally got it under control) and ten years on no one believes me anymore when I tell that story. I can still spot the scars, but you’d have to know me really, really well to see where they were and while I’m not totally unselfconscious in a bikini these days, I’m told I have no reason to be nervous about it.
TheTallestOneEver* July 30, 2017 at 8:46 pm Check out the skin products on the Makeup Artists Choice site. I love that they sell samples so you can test products before you fully commit to anything. If you send an email to them with your skin concerns, they’ll make recommendations for you. http://www.makeupartistschoice.com
ThatGirl* July 29, 2017 at 9:32 am I had a very good first week at my new job, and my husband is gone for the weekend so I can do whatever I want and have some money to do it! My plan is pedicure, dinner with a friend and cocktails… But we’ll see where the day leads :)
AvonLady Barksdale* July 29, 2017 at 9:53 am Congratulations! And enjoy your weekend– I love having my boyfriend around, but it can be soooo relaxing when I have a day or two to do only what *I* want. :)
ThatGirl* July 29, 2017 at 2:20 pm I love my husband and enjoy spending time with him but sometimes being alone is just nice. And he’s with his best friend so we’re both having fun.
Emily* July 29, 2017 at 10:14 am I broke two bones in my left hand this week – oops! I tripped while playing sports (ultimate frisbee) and landed on it in a weird way. Although I could tell something was wrong, I hoped it was a sprain. On the upside, I’m not in much pain and I only have to wear a cast for three weeks, assuming nothing else goes wrong. And the cast is waterproof, so I am allowed (even encouraged!) to shower with it and even go swimming, if I’d like. This injury feels like small potatoes compared to the time I tore my ACL.
DeLurkee* July 29, 2017 at 12:11 pm Sorry to hear you’re injured! I had a sprained wrist and messed up a tendon for a while too, and I know how it impacts your daily life while it heals. Wishing you a speedy and comfortable recovery!
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 12:07 pm Ouch! This happened to a friend of mine (not the frisbee though; she was texting while walking and tripped).
EA* July 29, 2017 at 10:25 am Hi all, I’ve posted a lot about getting rejected from rescues and we finally got a dog! She is around 2. We brought her home last night after meeting with her foster. The house training is going well. I can tell when she needs to go out after less than a day, and have been reading about taking her to the same place every time and rewarding her with treats. She pulls a lot on the leash and also mouths a little bit. Not aggressively, just to play, but it freaked me out a bit when she first did it. I know a lot of his is probably just exercising her enough and being in a new place. It seems like we can’t ever get her energy or so far. I’m taking her on walks and running with her. Anyone have any suggestions?
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 10:56 am That sounds great! I’m so glad you got a pup. I wouldn’t worry too much about the energy right now, since she’s not even been there for 24 hours–she’s almost certainly pretty wired by all the novelty. If there are behaviors that are an issue as a result of her energy, focus on the behaviors, preferably by arranging things so those behaviors can’t happen (aka, if she’s galloping around problematically, you can leash her in the house for a while, and it’s not too soon to start crate training her). Are there plans for obedience classes in the works?
AvonLady Barksdale* July 29, 2017 at 11:11 am What fposte said. We adopted our buf when he was 2, and he engaged in some minor puppyish behaviors for about two weeks before he settled in. He also got a bit anxious in our apartment at first and wanted to go outside all the time to explore. Enjoy the weekend anf just focud on getting used to each other. Congratulations!
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 11:20 am Is “buf” a phone-ism for “pup” or is this a formation from “boof” for “bark”? It works for me either way.
Junior Dev* July 29, 2017 at 12:08 pm I use various pet names for my cat and sometimes they slip out when referring to other animals. Most common is “Bibi” for baby but I’m sure others come out too.
AvonLady Barksdale* July 29, 2017 at 4:20 pm Hahaha!!! I usually mean “bud”, but obviously I was having Phone Issues. I was, oddly enough, at the vet, where my pup got FIVE SHOTS. I nearly cried. He is now at the bottle shop with his papa, enjoying life. Also, I refer to my dog has the following: Bud, Budlet, Goofus, Doofus, Woofus, Pumpkin, Pumpkin-Butt, Pumpis, Baby, Sweetpea, Goodboy, Boodle-Doodle, and… a whole bunch of other things. Plus his name. Boofles has, I believe, come up at some point.
K-Stew* July 29, 2017 at 10:48 pm <3 I love your list of names! My husband & I call Roscoe, our Basset Hound: Roscoe Boscoe, Roscoe P. Coltraine, Roskies, Puppers, Bubby, Sweet Boy, Roscoe P. Hound, The Hound :)
Natalie* July 29, 2017 at 12:21 pm Did the foster give you any info on how she is with other dogs? Assuming she isn’t dog-aggressive, in my experience humans cannot tire a dog out as much as their own kind can. Could be a dog park, doggie daycare, or just a friend’s reliable dog. And I second getting into dog school. Even if she has basic obedience down, there’s classes for more advanced behavior, tricks, and dog sports, and learning also generally uses a lot of their energy.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 7:29 pm Chew toys are good for dissipating energy. I also use them for when the pup gets too mouthy with me. I redirect, “Where IS your toy?” It does not take long for them to figure out the word “toy” and it is more productive than say, “No. Stop. No. Stop.” I use a lot of redirects. If you have a sturdy carpet in a large room of your house you could get a soft toy to toss around. I say carpeted because dogs skid. Sometimes they skid and crash which can cause chiropractic injuries that are avoidable. For tugging on the leash, you could get a metal chain type leash OR I might try just dipping some vinegar on my finger and rubbing that down the cloth leash. My dogs all have hated vinegar. My current dog would get up on the counter and lick dirty dishes. He stopped once I started sprinkling them with vinegar.
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 9:27 pm I wouldn’t get a metal chain for your dog – you can do some pretty severe damage to their throat. Instead, every time they pull on the leash, stop. Wait until they’re no longer pulling, then go forward. When they’re pulling again, stop. The goal is to teach them that any pressure on their throat means stop.
Natalie* July 29, 2017 at 10:29 pm A gentle leader (face harness, basically) is also a good option. It takes a bit of knowledge to fit it properly and get your dog accustomed to it, but it’s very effective.
Not So NewReader* July 30, 2017 at 7:23 am Whoops. I can see how you got that out of what I said. I meant a metal leash attached to a normal collar. I use a walking harness for my dogs. It goes under their “arm pits” instead of putting tension on their throats. I do agree that stressing out their necks/throats is a good point for concern. My old dog would reach around and pull on the leash as if to walk ME, “come on, let’s go!, right now!” I changed to a metal leash so he would stop doing that but I kept the walking harness.
Optimistic Prime* July 29, 2017 at 1:25 pm As for training – you just gotta figure out what the dog responds to. I adopted my dog at 10 months, and she was already mostly house trained but needed a little finishing. She is very treat-motivated but also very praise-motivated, so taking her to the same spot and praising her profusely and playing a little game was enough for her to learn. I got my dog an EasyWalk harness when I adopted her at 10 months. She also pulled like crazy, and she’s 60 lbs., so it wasn’t easy to control her. The EasyWalk harness works by tightening when the dog pulls and putting some uncomfortable (but not painful) pressure on their front. Basically, it’s a disincentive to pulling. My dog basically doesn’t pull at all now that she’s got the harness (only if there’s another dog nearby). Some dogs are just mouthy when they play and exercise alone isn’t going to stop that if that’s how she is. If you have concerns and want her to stop, you’re going to have to train her out of it. There are several techniques but most of them involve simply withdrawing from play every time (every time, every time – consistency is important) she mouths you and rewarding her whens she plays without mouthing. When I first got my dog (who is now 3.5) she had boundless amounts of energy. I could take her to the dog park for 2 hours and she’d be tired but still pretty alert. She’s mellowed out somewhat – she still has a lot of puppyish energy (she’s a Lab mix and people often mistake her for an adolescent puppy) but now long walks or an hour at the dog park is enough to tire her out.
WG* July 29, 2017 at 1:39 pm Try using a sensation harness when walking. It puts the pressure on the dog’s weaker muscles, naturally and non-painfully taking the pull out of the dog. Collars and some harnesses put pressure on the strong muscles, which have an opposition reflex and help the dog really dig in and pull. Do consider at least one basic obedience class. Even though the dog is a few years old and most likely has some manners down, part of a good training course is to build the communication between you and the dog. Dogs don’t speak human and we have to learn how best to motivate them to behave the way we want them to. A good trainer can also provide tips for your specific issues, such as mouthing, within the scope of your situation. Congrats on finally finding a dog! They can be such great companions.
Namast'ay in Bed* July 30, 2017 at 9:45 am Congrats! For a pull-y puppy, I highly recommend a front lead harness. It attaches like a regular harness but connects to the leash in the front so that when the pup pulls, they end up twisting themselves around and not actually pulling on the leash. We use one on our pup and it had an almost instant effect and she no longer pulls even when on a regular leash.
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 10:27 am Oh my gosh how can I not pay eleventy billion dollars for a super basic custom size frame?! I have this awesome Cirque du soleil poster I paid a dollar for but since it’s an off size I can’t figure out how to get even the most basic frame for under (or even around) 100 dollars! It’s super tall (26×50) but I just want something crazy basic and the entire internet is failing me. Does anyone out there know a way to get it hung without spending a fortune?! I’m going crazy trying to figure something out!
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 10:43 am Could you find a framed picture that’s the same size in a thrift or junk shop and reuse the frame?
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 5:16 pm Sadly it’s a really bizarre size in height so I’ll keep an eye out but I don’t think I’ll have any luck.
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 5:18 pm So, today I stopped by and they had a 60% deal plus 10% off the sale price for custom frames. Seemed perfect! And it wasn’t busy and I had a great lady helping me but she couldn’t get it below 233 dollars! I was crazy clear on the fact I wasn’t going to be able to do it except for the absolute most basic options and I *think* she was really trying to get the price down. Really though?! 233 dollars at that big a discount?! For a basic black frame, no fancy glass, no matting… Yikes.
StrikingFalcon* July 30, 2017 at 6:28 pm Michaels marks their prices way up (about double) and then offers very high coupons. 60 + 10 is one of their better sales, which means that you actually likely got a relatively decent price quoted. (Source: used to work there. Other customers told me that for the area I was in, with the good coupons we had the best prices in the area) Some other options: Are you sure it’s an odd size for a poster? Standard sized posters are a different set of sizes from standard photos or paintings, and being Cirque du Soleil it may be a metric size. Check online to see if you can order one. Michaels sells (or at least did a few years ago) clip together frames where you picked four pieces and then assembled them into an odd sized frame. You can get a custom mat cut then, which isn’t too expensive since it’s just mat board. Coupons don’t apply to matting alone at Michaels though. You can also get a standard sized mat cut with a nonstandard sized hole, which will help with costs. If you’re concerned about UV fading, though, you have to put it behind UV protective glass. Regular glass won’t work, so off the shelf frames wouldn’t help even if it fit. Fortunately, you can buy that online too. There are places that sell custom sized protective glass. Don’t buy the glass alone from Michaels, it’s way over priced. You can do custom framing online too. Some will cut everything for you and send you the pieces (frame + mat + glass, not pieces of frames) to assemble, others you send the artwork to them and get it back framed. That will be cheaper than a store, but not super cheap. It’s expensive though because you get what you pay for. UV protective, non reflective glass, an acid free mat, and a solid wood frame is just going to cost a lot more than cheaper alternatives, but I’m sure that’s not what you’re looking for with a $1 print. I hope you can find something that works for you.
Loopy* July 30, 2017 at 7:30 pm Thanks so much for the in depth answer! I’ll definitely have to regroup and make a new plan of attack (and seriously consider if it’s worth the budget). I thought this would be a quite easy bargain hunt, lol!
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 11:06 am If you want a real frame, that’s likely to get expensive just because frames are expensive, and 50″ is big, outside the 48″ standard premades and well outside the more usual 24-26″. I second Ramona Flowers’ idea of cannibalizing an existing frame–I actually did this with an ugly picture from K-mart once and turned the frame into a nice mirror. If you can decently wield a saw with a miter box you can probably cut it down yourself; I just used wood glue and flat brackets to reinforce the corners. If you’re prepared to get a little funky with paint or applique, you could actually combine two smaller frames and that might well be cheaper than finding one of the big size.
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 5:20 pm I think that might be my only option but I have no equipment and am definitely not savvy with that sort of stuff, especially the glass part. I also would prefer the UV glass which might have to be purchased.
Pieforbreakfast* July 29, 2017 at 6:18 pm I did picture framing for 15 years.UV glass for something that size is going to be almost $100 itself. The cheapest solution would be to drymount the art on foamcore and put hangers on the back, this gets it on the wall without using tape or pushpins. The next step would be to add glass and a clip frame, (i.e. a “Uniframe”) which is a system or clips-and-string-in- tension that holds everything together. Again 50″ might be beyond the size for this. Plexiglass can’t be used in this system. If you want a basic frame that is low cost metal will be the option. Look for frame kits, you buy each size separately and put it together yourself which takes a screwdriver. I’m not sure 50″ pieces are available though. Color options will be minimal. Another option would be to be order just the metal pieces from a frame store and put it together at home, get the glass from a hardware store (won’t be UV) or plexiglass from a plastics store. You’ll need backing, cardboard is basic but highly acidic which will stain the art over time. Foamcore is a great choice, you can find 40″x60″ pieces in art supply stores, it is cut with a box knife. If the art isn’t attached to the backing it will wrinkle and move over time. To prevent this sprayglue works for DIY attaching, frame stores will drymount, but something this size probalby costs $40 just for that.
Loopy* July 30, 2017 at 9:12 am Thanks! This is really helpful! It looks like I just need to adjust my expectations and maybe do this gradually over time. But this knowledge will be super helpful going forward!
OperaArt* July 29, 2017 at 11:21 am How much would it cost to get a large matboard in a standard size, and get the inside cut to match your poster? I haven’t priced matboard in years.
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 5:21 pm Does that option not include glass? Im super worried about fading, unfortunately. So I want the UV glass. The frame can be cheap as heck though.
Alston* July 30, 2017 at 10:21 am I don’t know if you can just they the glass cut somewhere, but if you know anyone who does woodworking they might be able to make you a super basic frame cheaply.
Kj* July 29, 2017 at 11:31 am Apartment Therapy covered this a while back. http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/large-picture-frames-you-can-make-on-the-cheap-242167
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 5:21 pm I will have to study this option, DIY seems like the only option under 100 dollars!
CAA* July 29, 2017 at 12:16 pm Have you tried framing4yourself.com? They don’t make it super easy to get a price on oversize frames, but if you click on “Looking for a bigger frame?” and follow the directions, they do work.
rj* July 29, 2017 at 12:32 pm I have used some website I can no longer find – it was one of the ones listed on this apartment therapy link http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/the-best-websites-to-get-your-art-framed-online-241918. I also got the glass from thrift stores and the matting from there too. Jo-Ann’s also has frames, and typically has coupons if you just go to their website so no effort is required.
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 5:26 pm Thanks! Just the frame was almost 77 dollars which is not including board or glass. Gosh I feel naive going about this!
LizB* July 30, 2017 at 1:09 pm Just wanted to say you are not alone in feeling naive. Until a few years ago, I mostly decorated with posters and photos that fit into basic cheap frames from target or ikea. The first time I went to go get something framed that was a slightly weird size, I was SHOCKED at how expensive it was. I had absolutely no concept of how pricy a decent frame could be, even with a really good sale at Michael’s.
Loopy* July 30, 2017 at 7:31 pm Thank goodness it’s not just me. I’m 29 and so I was feeling way behind the curve.
Colette* July 29, 2017 at 12:43 pm I believe frame shops can mount it for you. Last time I had it done, it was under $100. It’s not framed, but it looks good.
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 5:28 pm They gave me that option at Michaels! It was much cheaper but the room I want it in is so sunny that I’m sure it would fade very quickly without the UV glass. I think I’m looking for the impossible option here though.
Jen* July 29, 2017 at 1:01 pm I’d buy a frame bigger than the poster and get a mat cut custom, that’s usually cheaper even if you pay for custom cutting instead of doing it yourself
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 5:27 pm I don’t think they have standard sizes bigger than the height unfortunately! That would be a good option.
Halls of Montezuma* July 29, 2017 at 7:25 pm Amazon to the rescue – I haven’t checked that particular size, but I got a couple of weird size poster frames from Art to Frame for about $25 each. They’re basic, but they work just fine and look nice rather than cheap. You might have to play around with frame style and color to find good prices – they’re kind of random.
anon24* July 29, 2017 at 8:08 pm Do you know anyone who woodworks as a hobby? My dad loves working with wood and jumps at any chance for a project so he’s always willing to make custom frames for me. He usually has wood and stain around so he doesn’t charge me anything for it, and if I want glass I call a local glass/window company and get a custom piece cut.
Loopy* July 30, 2017 at 9:14 am Oh I wish I did! But if someone mentions it, I’ll definitely have an ear out. Admittedly, my boss does but I am not going that route!
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 8:22 pm I have been looking at mirrors. I found quite a few for less than $100 but the width has not been correct. The best width I have found is 24″ but the lengths were up to 68 inches. My thought was to take the mirror a part and reuse the frame. I don’t know if it would look right if you shaved 2 inches off the picture though. As far as UV glass. check around with window companies. Aim for someone who is a local (or near local) manufacturer. I have heard of people using decorative wall molding to make picture frames out of. I found some nice molding for $5 per 8 foot piece on a clearance table.
Loopy* July 30, 2017 at 9:15 am I like the mirror idea. I’ll have to look into how easy it is to convert a mirror to a frame!
YouvwantmetodoWHAT?!* July 30, 2017 at 2:01 pm Just wanted to mention that you can use Michael’s coupons at Aaron Bros. They are ‘sister’ stores (same parent company). If you haven’t already, sign up to Michael’s, to get coupons, and wait for that semi-rare 60%.
AnnaleighUK* July 29, 2017 at 10:28 am Sometimes I wish I had an indoors hobby. There’s four of us that are currently soaked through and rather ticked off waiting to use the shower cuz we went for a run and it rained. It wasn’t meant to rain. I’m wet and cold and I look like a drowned spaniel. I want a cup of tea!
periwinkle* July 29, 2017 at 10:32 am During a recent business trip to St. Louis, the topic of frozen custard came up and all the local folks started debating the merits of their favorite spots. This week I met with an external consultant team, one of whom lived in St. Louis, and more frozen custard discussions commenced. Meanwhile, here in Seattle you’d expect that level of debate for coffee places but more often the discussion flows around the best teriyaki spots. Back in Maryland, we debated crabhouses (Cantler’s Riverside, oh how I miss you). What’s the topic your local debates? (I can’t tell any real difference between teriyaki places, TBH)
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 10:44 am I used to live in Devon, UK, where it was all about whether you put jam or cream first on your scones. (I did it the Cornish way. Controversial.)
Anion* July 29, 2017 at 6:58 pm We lived in Devon! For a total of almost nine years. We’ve been back in the US for about three months. I’m still homesick. And hot. God, so HOT. I’m not used to southern US summers anymore!
Merci Dee* July 29, 2017 at 8:13 pm I’m not sure it’s even technically possible to get used to summers down here. I’ve lived in the south all my life, and I still prefer to stay inside and nap when the weather’s hot outside.
Ramona Flowers* July 30, 2017 at 6:08 am I went there for university (Exeter). Don’t make it back much now as most of my friends have moved on.
London Calling* July 30, 2017 at 8:30 am Wooo, me too *waves, hello, mi ‘an’some* grew up on the north coast in the dim and distant sixties. And it’s cream first, can’t recall now if that’s Devon or Cornwall.
Toph* July 30, 2017 at 12:50 pm Oooh, I’m sure I’d be bashed in such a debate because I tend to do jam or cream on scones, not both at the same time. I might eat both in one sitting, but it’d be one scone with jam, then one scone with cream (or vice versa, order wouldn’t matter), but the same scone wouldn’t have both on it.
Red* July 29, 2017 at 10:55 am Wings! Oh dear lord, it’s such a contentious topic… It’s a tiny piece of chicken, covered in hot sauce and future heart attacks, who cares this much?! (I’m a vegetarian living in Buffalo NY. Life can be a challenge)
charlatan* July 29, 2017 at 11:54 am In my area of North Carolina it’s barbecue, followed closely by craft beer.
charlatan* July 29, 2017 at 11:44 pm Vinegar for me. I think I’d drink vinegar straight out of the bottle if it were just a bit more socially acceptable to do so.
E, F and G* July 30, 2017 at 1:40 am Out of curiosity, have you tried it on pizza? Has anyone else done that? Someone pointed it to me that enhances the flavour of the crust and I’m still trying to figure out if there is some area of the world where this is considered a normal thing to do.
anonanonanonymous* July 29, 2017 at 2:14 pm Same here! I’m in San Francisco. Are you here too, or is there another center of burrito debate?
Kimberlee, Esq.* July 29, 2017 at 12:58 pm The ones I most frequently get into in DC are the best bars.
Red* July 29, 2017 at 7:38 pm Ha, I feel you on that! It’s surprising how big of a debate that can be… At least in my group of friends, the one ordering does the choosing.
Temperance* July 29, 2017 at 1:17 pm Outside Philly, and it’s beer. We largely have settled the cheesesteak debate and only outsiders really care about Pat’s v. Geno’s.
Cruciatus* July 29, 2017 at 2:03 pm In my neck of the woods if you don’t eat Smith’s Hot Dogs you are a traitor. And I’d say common debates are best local pizza place and best Mexican place. Maybe later something more along the lines of how you eat something will come to me… We live in a tri-state area that used to be a popular travel hub so things from New England or the Midwest, or even sometimes the South became common (or at least not too weird).
Alice Ulf* July 29, 2017 at 2:20 pm Welcome to Colorful Colorado, where we must spend hours debating exactly which of the dozen microbreweries in each town is the best. And then which of their beers is the best. By category.
Sprechen Sie Talk?* July 29, 2017 at 3:12 pm In my hometown? Bratwurst – who makes the best ones, where to buy the best hard rolls (this is super contentious and bakery preferences can go back generations), what’s the best butcher, whats the best grill technique, whats the best festival to eat brats, what’s the best charity brat stand, where’s the best restaurant/burger type place to buy a brat, and god help you if you don’t FROST that hard roll in butter before you place that brat (and it better be a double) in there. Secondary level – frozen custard and malts (my opinion is the local place Randall’s beats that chain crap Culver’s hands down, always has and always will.You can also get a pretty good brat at Randall’s, to go with that chocolate malt and fries, in case you need to clog up an artery or something). Tertiary level – Friday fish fry. Here in London man, I swear some days it seems like everything is up for debate, especially around food, although most of the time its comparing commutes and/or coping strategies for the trains!
Your Weird Uncle* July 30, 2017 at 3:03 pm You aren’t originally from Wisconsin are you? Cause everything you mention is very near and dear to this Wisconsin born-and-bred. :)
INTP* July 29, 2017 at 4:43 pm The best cheesesteaks. The best vegan cheesesteak is also a hot debate. Unfortunately I can’t participate in either because I don’t eat meat or seitan (gluten). I’m a little bit scared to ask if someone can make me a cheesesteak with portobello mushroom for the steak and put it on gluten free bread.
Sylvia* July 29, 2017 at 10:06 pm Donuts! We have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to donut places, and arguing about which is best gives us an excuse to taste more of them. We also argue about barbecue because, well, Southerners gonna Southern.
WKRP in...* July 29, 2017 at 11:15 pm Cincinnati-style chili. Skyline Chili might be the best known outside of Cincinnati, but we Cincinnatians will passionately defend our favorite chili parlor (yes, we call them chili parlors). We have more chili parlors per capita AND per square mile than any other place in the world (even more than Texas). Skyline Chili. Gold Star Chili. Blue Ash Chili. Delhi Chili. Camp Washington Chili (that’s my favorite – Google it!). Dixie Chili. Empress Chili. U.S. Chili. Eastside Chili. Finneytown Chili. Pleasant Ridge Chili. Price Hill Chili…….. The list goes on & on. For those of you not familiar with Cincinnati-style chili, it’s very different from standard Tex-Mex / chili-con-carne. It is fine ground meat in a tomato-based sauce with a uniform (not chunky), soupy consistency. It is seasoned with Greek/Mediterranean spices like cinnamon, cumin, allspice and chocolate — it is savory but with a flair. If you visit our fair city, please try it! Just don’t think of it as “chili” (i.e. Tex-Mex) or you’ll be weirded out. Oh, and be sure to order it like a native: two-way (chili over spaghetti noodles), three-way (spaghetti noodles, chili, shredded cheddar), four-way (3-way plus either fresh chopped onion OR beans – but be sure to specify which!), or five-way (3-way plus both onion AND beans). And there is no shame in donning a bib – it’s very common in a chili parlor at lunchtime to see a group of people in business attire wearing bibs. An aside… it’s fun living in a city where you can openly answer the question “what did you do last night?” with “I had a three-way”, and no one bats an eye!
D.W.* July 30, 2017 at 9:15 am I’m from the South where debates often broke out over Waffle House vs. IHOP (Waffle House, duh!) and sweet grits vs. butter grits (butter, of course). Now I’m in NYC, and int he circles I run in the debate is around who has the best pizza, best bagels, and best vegan doughnut. Still haven’t satisfied that last requirement, so if anyone knows where I can get a bomb vegan doughnut, please let me know!
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 12:13 pm Around here, it’s cashew chicken. Everybody has a favorite. The particular style we are known for was invented here but I’ve never actually eaten at the place where it originated; my favorite is a cash-only family-run place downtown that also has the best crab rangoons and an enormous lunch special for $5 that is two days’ worth of food. :)
LizB* July 30, 2017 at 1:11 pm Juicy Lucys, cheese curds, and local beer, in that order of prevalence. (Guess where I live!)
Your Weird Uncle* July 30, 2017 at 3:11 pm CBS Sunday Morning had a feature this morning about frozen custard, featuring, of all places, Milwaukee! I live just close enough to Milwaukee to know and to have been to some of the more popular places, but I never knew it was such A Thing.
Ophelia Bumblesmoop* July 31, 2017 at 12:38 pm I’m in California. We are all about the taco trucks. In fact, there’s a minor league baseball team a few hours south that goes a wee bit crazy and it’s pretty awesome. https://www.milb.com/grizzlies/news/taco-truck-throwdown-7-presented-by-la-tapatia-enhanced-event-plans-announced/c-234732014/t-196093370
Lady Jay* July 29, 2017 at 10:40 am Anybody on here hike Colorado’s 14ers? I just finished #9 and #10 last week: Democrat & Lincoln! Pretty proud of myself, especially since they were my first solo 14ers. I drove myself (in a 2WD passenger car, no less) to the TH, hiked the whole way on my own, and drove home. Yeah for hiking! If you don’t know what a 14er is, it’s a mountain more than 14,000 feet above sea level. In the US, they’re all in Colorado, California, and Alaska. Colorado alone has 58 total.
Zinnia* July 30, 2017 at 9:38 pm I did a few on vacation when I was a kid, roughly 30 years ago. Don’t remember which, but I remember we camped at Turquoise Lake, so near there. I’m from New England, so we talk about 4Kers out here. Happy hiking!
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 10:40 am Does anyone know anything about palmistry? I just had a palm reading from someone who straight up told me she did not claim to be psychic and had just learned palmistry and would say what she saw. What she saw: -I have had serious health problems since childhood and might have a chronic illness -My income has come in peaks and troughs, perhaps due to self-employment -My parents were either emotionally or physically absent from my childhood to the point where she wondered if I was fostered or adopted -My parents are completely separate from me or somehow not in my life (my head line and life line have a noticeable gap between them) -I had two abusive boyfriends when I was younger With each thing, she explained why she saw it in my hand. I did not tell her anything about myself or discuss any of what she said while waiting outside the tent. I do not believe these were Barnum statements. I’m fascinated that apparently this stuff shows on my hand. In fact it was weirdly validating. She told me she had not read a parental estrangement on someone’s hand before. I don’t understand how this is on my hand.
KatieKate* July 29, 2017 at 11:44 am I know a smidge about palmestry and the like, but that seems like a lot to get from one palm reading. Was there no way for her to glean the information otherwise? Did you give our name, and are your social media accounts locked down?
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 12:05 pm No name given, social media on complete lockdown and none of this is on there – plus I had only just met her, in a field with no mobile coverage at a country fete in an area where I don’t live!
Kimberlee, Esq.* July 29, 2017 at 1:02 pm Hahaha, I have a good friend who had something similar… she doesn’t believe it’s “real” but her mom insisted she go to her own astrologist, who did my friend’s whole charts and whatnot. All of her stuff was predictions of the future that, so far, have ended up being totally accurate (and specific, for instance saying that she would date someone for a very long time, get engaged to them, and then not marry them… she recently broke off an engagement with someone she’d been with for 7 years). I feel like it’s probably sufficiently explained by the law of large numbers (you tell 50 people they’ll break off their engagements, and 3 of them do, that sort of thing) but idk!
Just Me Here* July 29, 2017 at 1:14 pm Did she definitively say you had this or your parents were that? Or did she say hmmm, it appears that xxxx and followed up with yes that is true? If it’s the latter, she probably read your body language- something you can’t always control and signaled an affirmative response to her.
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 3:36 pm I had not heard of this. Thanks all – you must think I’m such an idiot.
Mike C.* July 29, 2017 at 5:07 pm Nope, it’s just really clever deduction paired with good people skills.
Persephone Mulberry* July 29, 2017 at 5:12 pm FWIW, I don’t think you’re an idiot. I think it’s fascinating that people can glean so much about us through body language signals that we often don’t even realize we’re giving off. (There was a TV show a few years back called Lie to Me based on this. Highly fictionalized, I’m sure, but it was still compelling and thought provoking!)
So Very Anonymous* July 30, 2017 at 7:25 pm I have days at work when I want Tim Roth to show up, say “‘e’s lyin’!” and then smugly explain what the lies are and how he knows.
Anion* July 29, 2017 at 7:05 pm Hey, just saying… I worked for a while as a phone psychic, years ago–I read tarot cards, and read them honestly (I mean, genuinely laying cards and interpreting them). I was good at them, and sometimes got freakishly accurate results. But sometimes…sometimes I’d actually see things, like people or places, and when I described them I was right. I once got a message (there’s no other way to describe it) from someone’s dead uncle, who not only “showed” me his message etc. but also the very specific and unusual way he died. Sometimes something would tell me to ask a certain question, that wasn’t really showing up in the cards, and it would turn out to be right. I’m not saying I’m psychic. I’m not saying I believe in psychics or palm-reading (I actually really don’t, in general, despite my experiences). I’m not saying the person who did your reading was psychic or able to read your palm with this high level of accuracy without using cold-reading techniques. All I’m saying is that sometimes things happen that might have some other kind of explanation, and that you certainly shouldn’t feel stupid or anything else for being open to possibilities.
neverjaunty* July 30, 2017 at 1:34 am You’re far from an idiot. You’re human, and these are techniques designed to (pardon the tired expression) hack how human beings process information.
Not So NewReader* July 30, 2017 at 7:04 pm noo… you’re fine. Getting a read on people is such a fascinating subject. Not in the exact same idea but along similar lines I have been fascinated by Dr. Joseph Bell and his influence on Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes. Bell looked more at physical attributes than body language, but still fascinating to watch someone develop an idea about a person’s background within a very short time of meeting them. We give away a lot of information about ourselves just in the process of walking into a room and we never realize.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 12:17 pm Most people who do this kind of thing as a profession are very good at what’s called “cold reading”–they pick up clues about you while they are talking to you and from your clothing, demeanor, demographics, etc. Then they incorporate those bits of information into their predictions. It comes out sounding like an accurate (to you) prediction. It is bogus. Spend your money on it if you want–it’s your money. But there’s nothing to it.
Aurora Leigh* July 29, 2017 at 10:44 am I know this group gets asked about board games a lot, but what are some of your favorites for 2 people? We like Carcassonne at lot! Tried Pandemic, but I think that is better with a bigger group.
Phlox* July 29, 2017 at 11:47 am Monarch can be a two player, Jaipur and the new one in the house is Harry Potter Hogwarts Battle.
EhtoZed* July 29, 2017 at 11:52 am Ticket to Ride can be nice. Lots of different boards/variations depending on what type of game you want.
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 12:06 pm I played Ticket to Ride once and was bored to tears, but other people I know love it.
Soupspoon McGee* July 29, 2017 at 1:17 pm I played it for the first time last night and really enjoyed it.
Jillociraptor* July 29, 2017 at 2:12 pm Ticket to Ride: Rails and Sails is a great expansion too! Plus I’m really improving my global geography…
CatCat* July 29, 2017 at 11:56 am Backgammon is my favorite two-person board game. I’m also a Scrabble fiend, but that can have more than two people.
CAA* July 29, 2017 at 12:20 pm DH won a copy of MOD X at Comic-Con last weekend, and we’ve played it a few times and like it. The rules are very simple, but there’s a lot of strategic thinking involved (at least there is when we play), so it’s a good quiet game, but not a great socializing game.
Junior Dev* July 29, 2017 at 12:22 pm I like Star Realms (there’s a fantasy themed variant called Hero Realms). It’s pretty easy to learn (the scoring system is kind of weird, get a pen and paper to do it with if it confuses you. Otherwise it’s pretty simple.) Other games I like that can be 2 player: * Race for the Galaxy * Orleans * Dominion
Colette* July 29, 2017 at 12:36 pm Gloom is fun – it’s a storytelling game where you have to make your family sad and then kill them off while cheering up your opponent’ family. The winner has the saddest, dead family.
hermit crab* July 30, 2017 at 3:16 pm hahahaha YES. My husband is a military history buff -slash- board game fanatic and sadly can never find anyone to play Twilight Struggle (or Paths to Glory, which is like the WWI version, but harder/longer) with him. I emphatically do not like long or complex games but I may have to break down and play with him one of these days. He’s suggested sacrificing a table to it and playing in hour-long increments for several days running. We both like Blokus (which you can play as a two-player game with each person playing two colors; we also have a travel version that’s designed for two players). And we are kind of obsessed with Capitals, which is an iphone word/strategy game. We like it so much that we made a physical game board, which we play with Scrabble tiles and pieces scavenged from other board games.
ThatGirl* July 29, 2017 at 2:26 pm Oh this is up my alley, we play a lot of two player games. Hive Ingenious Seven Wonders Duel Elder Sign (a longer one) fairy tales Arboretum Guillotine
Saturnalia* July 29, 2017 at 4:40 pm We play munchkin and a lovely indie game called area1851. Forbidden island/desert are a different style, very co-op, and I’ll second race for the galaxy. We just tried Planetarium, which promises to be wonderful, but have to figure out how to play without the cats getting into the small pieces (one’s a mouthy little lady, bless her heart – after panicking to get the second one out of her lil mouth we declared game over for now) .
Ron McDon* July 29, 2017 at 5:45 pm Who Knows Where? is a really great game for two players or large teams – you have to choose where on a world map certain things are; capital cities, tourist attractions, geographical features. It is really good fun, and I am often surprised at how near I can get, even though I am rubbish at geography! What’s humbling is that my 17 year old son thrashes me every time…
Anon to me* July 29, 2017 at 10:59 am Public service announcement ;) I’m 40 years old. I do not have children. Yesterday I received the results from an AMH test that determines my ovarian reserve. The unfortunate news is that I will never be able to have biological children. It wasn’t that shocking to me (I had suspected that might be the case), however several of my friends initial reaction was I was too young for that to happen. So, I would encourage anyone who may want children to get their AMH level tested. Most women won’t get the same news I did, but if I had known even 5 years ago that my levels were low, I would have had a lot more options. It’s a simple blood test and it’s usually covered by insurance.
DeLurkee* July 29, 2017 at 12:23 pm That’s good information, and kind of you to think to help others – thank you for providing it. I hope that you are ok. It sounds like you were not taken by surprise, which may help. Sometimes it’s still hard when a thing that in doubt turns to a definite “no”, so if you need support, I hope you find that, whether that’s here, or with your loved ones. Wishing you much happiness in your life, and offering Jedi hugs if wanted.
Anon to me* July 29, 2017 at 3:55 pm Thank you. And of course it’s sad. It’s not the result I was hoping for, but at least now I can move onto a path that will hopefully end in me being parent.
Book Lover* July 29, 2017 at 12:44 pm Check out the high FSH and low AMH forums if fertility is still something you are interested in. It is a difficult situation but not necessarily impossible Truth is, the result is probably accurate. But – at 37, my level was checked before I went for IUI (I was using a donor, no history of infertility) and my AMH was in the menopause range. My FSH was normal, my antral follicle count was low. I got pregnant my first unmedicated IUI cycle. It is possible that it was a miracle, but more likely the AMH just not 100% accurate, like most other tests. Similarly, a friend had a low AMH, struggled with IVF, finally got a single embryo and was fortunate enough to have a beautiful baby, then had a natural pregnancy a year later. Again, possibly a miracle baby, more likely AMH isn’t the whole story. I don’t recommend people have testing unless they are infertile or are considering egg retrieval. There just isn’t any purpose – people should know fertility rapidly declines and that if they wait, having kids may not be an option. But if they aren’t ready to have children, what is the point of the testing? And if they are ready, they should just try. One year if under 35 and no risk factors, six months otherwise (while planning ahead to schedule a consult). I am not saying you are wrong, just giving another perspective.
Marzipan* July 29, 2017 at 3:37 pm I do take your point, but on the other hand, having the information may help people to make decisions about what they want to prioritise at different points in their lives – being ‘ready’ is something it’s possible to influence and work towards as much as it’s something that happens to you. I wouldn’t necessarily have considered myself ready five years ago, say – but if I’d known then that in five years I’d be having donor egg IVF, I might have moved a bit quicker towards readiness than I did. I also definitely see among my friends a general disinclination to believe that women’s fertility *really* declines quickly – they’ll merrily go on about how the figures are terribly out of date and it’s surely different now – and since I’ve chosen to keep my treatment private for the time being I bite my tongue. So, just generally, I think that kind of information can be helpful.
Anon to me* July 29, 2017 at 4:05 pm I think many women, especially many professional woman, think if they have enough resources that they won’t have a problem getting pregnant. And fertility is the one thing that financial resources can’t fix. Now they can help provide alternate pathways to parenting, but money can’t fix the problem.
blackcat* July 29, 2017 at 4:52 pm What I have actually seen is a better understanding that baseline fertility depends a lot on the individual–odds are good that if someone has trouble getting pregnant at 35, they would have had trouble at 30, too. One close friend of mine started trying at 25 and finally had an ivf baby at 32 (they didn’t start ivf for a long time, due to finances). On the flip side, someone who easily gets pregnant at 30 will probably also easily get pregnant at 35. And very fertile women are much more likely to have had an unplanned pregnancy when younger. So, in general, people trying to get pregnant for the first time later in life are skewed a bit towards women who aren’t super fertile to begin with. What IS very dependent on age, regardless of fertility, is the likelihood of carrying a pregnancy to term. A big reason to aim to have kids before 40 is that after that, pregnancy complications, including stillbirth, are far more likely. My MIL easily got pregnant 4 times in her 40s, but only had two live births during that time. Similarly, my grandmother had 5 pregnancies in her 40s, 2 of which led to live births (but 3 babies, as the last pregnancy was a “package deal” as she calls it). My grandmother had her first at 23 and last two at 46 and reports she got pregnant as easily at 45 as she did at 22. She did not view that positively, though! My grandfather was a controlling ass who did not believe in birth control.
Anon to me* July 29, 2017 at 5:27 pm I think one of the problems is that because so many women delaying having children until they are older, they don’t know which category they fit into. If your friend who started trying at 25 had delayed having children and didn’t start trying until she was 35 or 40 the outcome may have been very different. All I want for other women is that they should know the risks. Both RE’s I’ve talked to have indicated that most women of advanced maternal age underestimate how difficult it will be to get pregnant and overestimate the odds that they will have a child with a condition like Downs Syndrome.
Anon to me* July 29, 2017 at 3:52 pm You are correct that AMH is only one piece of the puzzle, but it’s one exceptionally important piece. My AMH is 0.11, so it’s exceptionally low. My RE doesn’t recommend IVF for anyone in my situation because it’s so likely to fail (for women in my situation there is a 95-98% chance I won’t even get to the egg retrieval stage). I know there are other women in a similar situation as I am that will do endless rounds of IVF. However, I can’t afford endless rounds of IVF, and even one or two IVF cycles could quickly eliminate the possibility of pursuing adoption. And while women should know that their fertility starts to decline starting at around 30, I think most women believe they will be the exception, because so many celebrities wait until their 40’s to have children (most who are over 44/45 aren’t using their own eggs), or they have a grandmother, aunt, cousin, etc., who conceived naturally when they were older. I would like to see an AMH test (or FSH test) offered to every woman after they turn 30, so that they have the opportunity to determine where their fertility stands. While AMH isn’t the perfect test it’s an excellent predictor, and allows each woman to determine if they potentially need further testing. Every woman is different, being provided with factual information about their fertility I think would be very helpful.
Book Lover* July 29, 2017 at 6:05 pm Sigh, I had a long answer and it got eaten. Just so you know, though, my AMH was 0.06. I got pregnant the first time I tried with frozen donor unmedicated IUI, lower chance than if I had been trying the old fashioned way. I promise I am not trying to be argumentative, I just think there is a lot about fertility we don’t understand. I was so devastated about my number and almost didn’t try, and that would have been tragic for me. I think it is perfectly reasonable for an RE to use it as a reason to not do IVF, but it is clearly not the be all end all of fertility.
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 5:52 pm Wow, thanks for this post! I am going to be 30 and have been thinking about this. Does this test give you a sort of range? Say “this needs to happen in the next x number of years for you” type result? Man, I need to look into this before I hit 30. I’m not married but in a long term relationship and getting jittery.
Book Lover* July 29, 2017 at 6:07 pm It is a general test of ovarian reserve. It doesn’t guarantee future results :). Additional things that can be checked are an antral follicle count (ultrasound) and FSH with estradiol on day 3. I’m not up on this stuff as my experience was a few years ago, but it sounds like we haven’t progressed much beyond this.
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 6:20 pm Thanks. I don’t know if its premature to look into this when Im not in a place when I can get pregnant or better than to be blindsided if there’s any concern. I have always given myself a mental deadline of 35 but am realizing that might be oversimplified (as its based on well, nothing) and naive.
MommyMD* July 30, 2017 at 6:41 pm Getting pregnant naturally after age 42 is very rare. Years before that our fertility plummets. After 35 there is a steep decline in fertility rates each year. It’s unfortunate but true. Peak years are the early twenties when most women are not ready.
Sparkly Librarian* July 29, 2017 at 11:09 am I auditioned for Jeopardy this week! There were only about 20 people in the room, and I was one of four librarians. It was fun! Now I wait to see if I’m called anytime in the next 18 months to come tape a show.
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 11:22 am Librarians and Jeopardy, man. I’m starting to think that the answer in a librarian interview to “Do you have any questions for us?” could be “Which one of you was on Jeopardy?” But fingers crossed for you–one colleague actually won some nice money and get some family vacations out of it!
SpiderLadyCEO* July 29, 2017 at 1:28 pm OMG! How exciting, fingers crossed for you! Jeopardy is my all-time favorite show. I keep wishing it were on Netflix ;)
Sparkly Librarian* July 29, 2017 at 2:02 pm So do I – it would make practicing much easier! :D I’ve been watching a lot on YouTube (some are great quality, but some are fuzzy or include the commercials or don’t show the whole clue onscreen). I always skip the interviews, though.
SpiderLadyCEO* July 29, 2017 at 2:30 pm Oh good idea! I’ll have to do that. I don”t have television, and I miss it at my place. I can’t stand the interviews, either.
Sami* July 30, 2017 at 4:21 pm There’s a Jeopardy app you can try. Good luck! I’ve taken the test three times (and passed twice I think) but no call to audition yet.
ThatGirl* July 29, 2017 at 2:28 pm Good luck! My husband made it to that stage years ago, never got called and wants to do it again.
OldMom* July 29, 2017 at 3:26 pm I would like to see them do a librarian tournament, similar to the one for teachers.
Sparkly Librarian* July 29, 2017 at 6:13 pm I believe I was the sparkliest. (Another one did have colored hair, though.)
The Dating Life* July 29, 2017 at 11:17 am I have not dated or been with anyone in about a million years but have recently gone out with someone. It’s probably too early to know where this is going but how did you know it was time for example to take it to the next step? We have not kissed or even held hands and I am ok with going really slow although some tips say that if you haven’t done that by date 3, then the whole thing is off or veering into a friendship maybe not a relationship.
Aurora Leigh* July 29, 2017 at 11:59 am I’m not very well qualified to answer this as I’m in my first relationship ever (at the age of 26). But with zero even holding hands or kissing experience before meeting my boyfriend I was very shy and a little skittish. It was date 3 for us before hand holding and a quick peck good night. But I don’t think there’s a magic number of dates before it has to happen. The kiss wasn’t until after our official boyfriend/girlfriend conversation, for what it’s worth. Also, culture can play into this a lot. I grew up in an ” I Kissed Dating Goodbye” culture which definitely played into my not wanting to get physical at all without some commitment.
all aboard the anon train* July 29, 2017 at 1:03 pm Honestly, this is so subjective. It really depends on the people involved. For some people, no kiss at the end of a good first date means there’s no connection. Some people view a hug at the end of a first date as friendship and not a relationship. Some people think the third date is where you have sex or else no relationship. Some people like to wait until the fifth date. It’s really what you’re comfortable with. If you like the other person enough, bring up your concerns. Communication is key! The person you’re dating might have the same concerns or might be waiting for you to make the first move.
NoMoreFirstTimeCommenter* July 29, 2017 at 2:48 pm I agree. Random people on the internet can’t help much in this question. The thing that helps is to talk to the date person and ask where things are going. There can be a zillion different reasons why someone hasn’t suggested kissing during the first three dates, one of them is that they are for some reason waiting for the other person to do that. I’m also a big fan of defining clearly the type of relationship. When you’re seeing someone and haven’t yet agreed about being a couple but you’re interested in meeting that person again, it’s not an easy stage to be in and I think it’s best to keep that unclear stage short. If one of the people involved isn’t yet ready to decide one way or another, you need to talk about what makes that decision difficult and could something be done to help figure out if there could be a relationship.
Serious Sam* July 30, 2017 at 9:50 am Is there anything wrong with just taking things over with the other person? They probably are as uncertain as you. Decide how you want the relationship to go as a couple. There is no right or wrong way, human relationships are amazingly varied. Do what feels right for you, do not let cultural norms or unrealistic portrayals in the media decide for you.
Detective Amy Santiago* July 29, 2017 at 11:18 am It’s almost time for my vacation and I cannot wait! I still have a ton of cleaning to do to get ready for my BFF being at my place, but it’ll be totally worth it.
Anonymous With Shame* July 29, 2017 at 11:26 am I’m wondering what you guys think I should or shouldn’t do. The other day, I was remembering that when I was in second or third grade, I bullied a girl on the bus- I think she was a year or 2 younger than me. (I’m also a girl). This was back around 1976 or so- a long time ago. She was probably in first grade. The girl was small for her age and had the skinniest legs I’d ever seen. For a few days (I don’t think it lasted longer than that), I called her “Skinny Legs” and “Chicken Legs Bella” (not her real name). The poor kid never cried in front of me, but she didn’t look happy. I think the bullying lasted a few days, but of course even one day of bullying is too much! I’m sure it wasn’t long-term, the only part of the story I’m grateful for. She moved a year or 2 later and I haven’t seen or thought of her since. So the memory of my horribleness popped into my head the other day, and I felt like garbage for doing that to someone. On a whim, I Googled her (she has an unusual name) and I found her right away. Even her picture looks exactly like I remember. She’s a university professor and seems to be doing very well (I hope!). Part of me wants to get in touch with her and apologize, but what if it upsets her? Maybe she’s forgotten about it, in which case I don’t want to reopen an old wound. But I really am sorry for what I did, and I think maybe I should tell her that. Is that silly? Should I just leave it (and her) alone? I’ve seen comments online about people not wanting apologies from their long-ago bullies. I don’t know what to do.
WellRed* July 29, 2017 at 11:51 am It wasn’t nice, but I don’t think a 3rd grader (or whatever) calling a first grader chicken legs for a few days rises to the level of bullying. She probably doesn’t dwell on it 40 years later, if she even remember. Forgive yourself.
Myrin* July 29, 2017 at 12:03 pm Yeah, I agree. If this had been going on for years or was something much more pervasive I might think differently but as it stands, this squarely falls in the “unkind but probably not horribly-soulcrushingly so” category for me. I commend you for seeing this the way you do but I really think you’re allowed to not dwell on it.
nep* July 29, 2017 at 12:07 pm Yes — and what WellRed said: forgive yourself. I know everyone is different but just to give my two cents — I was bullied something awful in fifth grade. It would seem odd and utterly unnecessary to have one of the perpetrators apologize today. It seems as if the gesture might help you not her — in this case, back to WellRed’s advice.
Gina* July 29, 2017 at 12:01 pm I’d leave it alone. Personally I’d be super-pissed if any of the girls who called me names back then showed up out of the blue to dredge it all back up. I don’t need that in my life, and I’d feel it was more about them soothing their consciences than about me.
CatCat* July 29, 2017 at 12:06 pm It might upset her, who knows. If you had inflicted any deep-seated pain, you’d have to be prepared to hear whatever she had to say on that topic and not be defensive about it. I’d probably have some pretty unkind things to say to my junior high bully if she ever contacted me as it would dredge up a lot of negative emotions. An apology from her would mean dick to me.
Courtney* July 29, 2017 at 12:27 pm I would leave it alone. Honestly, with early elementary school teasing that is so short lived I wouldn’t even assume she would remember it. I had some bullies I would appreciate an apology from…but they were teenagers who spent a year doing everything in their power to make my life miserable, not 7 year olds who called me a stupid name for a few days (and I experienced that too – but honestly, I couldn’t even tell you who called me those names. We were seven. It was a tiny blip on my radar.)
all aboard the anon train* July 29, 2017 at 1:07 pm Leave it alone. You mean well, but apologizing so long after the fact, and so out of the blue, makes it about you and your guilt, not about her, and that’s not the point of an apology.
Temperance* July 29, 2017 at 1:23 pm Why don’t you do something nice for someone else, as a way to atone? Leave her alone. This seems pretty minor in the grand scheme of things, too.
Purple snowdrop* July 29, 2017 at 1:27 pm I’m all about the writing a letter but not sending it. Hell, write it and post it here next week if you’d like to send it out into the void.
Obi-wan's wife* July 29, 2017 at 1:34 pm I doubt she even remembers. But speaking of random things that happened as a kid: in second grade a boy chased me home every day. I was super shy and couldn’t speak to him. He’d leave small gifts like a stick of gum or a marble at my front door. It kind of scared my 7 year old self. He moved during Christmas vacation and my heart was glad he no longer would be chasing me home each day. Then on Valentine’s Day I received a box in the mail. It was from him – a box of chocolate covered cherries – to my utter amazement. I don’t remember his name, but some fifty years later I still think of him. And, his mom. What a champion of a mom to go to that effort for her 7 year old love struck son. ❤️
Marzipan* July 29, 2017 at 3:45 pm Why not make a donation to an anti-bullying charity? It’s unlikely she’s affected now by what happened then, but there are children who *are* currently being affected by bullying, and that would be a way to help them.
NPG* July 29, 2017 at 6:44 pm Go for it. Even if you send an email and she never replies – you’ve done your part to mend the fence, esp. since your conscience won’t let it go. Good luck!
Never Nicky* July 30, 2017 at 2:22 am As someone verbally bullied at school (but a little older when it happened) – I would say reach out. I would be really heartened to know that you realised that your actions were wrong. And in a not very worthy schadenfreude-y kind of way, I would probably think that you being eaten up with thoughts about what you’d said was pay back for the time I spent eaten up about the things you’d said. One of my childhood bullies organised a school reunion and found me through Facebook. She invited me and said it would be good to see me. Never acknowledged the hurt she and her clique caused – or even said “I know we didn’t get on but…” I think that obliviousness thirty plus years on was almost as hurtful as the original bullying
Ice Bear* July 30, 2017 at 12:09 pm I know exactly what you mean. There was a girl who bullied me for an entire school year in 5th grade (two girls, actually, but one of them was my friend before the other girl moved to our town) and it really bothered me when we ran into each other years later and she acted like nothing happened. It disgusted me when she tried to hug me but not acknowledge what happened. Did she really not remember how mean she was to me? Because I’ve never forgotten about it. I’m a very sensitive person and I look back at that time as one of the worst in my life and for her to not even realize the damage she did to my self esteem is worse than everything she did.
Never Nicky* July 30, 2017 at 3:04 pm I’m sorry that happened to you too. On the whole though, I would rather be sensitive than oblivious to the feelings of others, wouldn’t you?
Infrequent Commenter* August 1, 2017 at 9:15 am Apologizing might make your victim dredge up bad memories despite being quite successful. Apologizing does more for you (relieves feelings of guilt) than for your victim. You’ve done a horrible thing- your penance is to live with your guilt, not to have it forgiven.
BMO* July 29, 2017 at 11:29 am DH is in the final weeks of a year long deployment. I’m so excited he’ll be home soon! I know reintegration can be hard sometimes but I feel like *I’m* already being weird about it. I feel like I have nothing “interesting” or “smart” to talk about. We were lucky to talk frequently throughout this and everything was very natural. Sometimes we’d talk about silly stuff, other times serious, the whole gamut really. IDK why I’m suddenly claming up now that he’s so close to coming home. I’m a pretty damn cool lady with my own successful career. WTH is happening to me?! Now that’s it’s all winding down and returning to “normal”, maybe I’m a little scared of how our routines are going to sync together again.
Mobuy* July 29, 2017 at 3:19 pm I’m sure you know this better than I, but you have had to be totally self-sufficient for 12 months, doing all the “boy things” as well as any tasks you normally take on. Him coming back means adjusting your workload, which is good, but also will make you dependent on someone else to get things done. You may have an adjustment of your sense of self, AND be expected to help your husband readjust. I don’t blame you for feeling apprehensive in the middle of all your excitement!
Tabby Baltimore* July 30, 2017 at 9:57 am And that’s totally legit concern, BTW. I’d like to suggest you consider doing the following: prior to his arrival, take some time to talk with your husband about what his immediate needs/wants are on arriving, and in the 2-3 days after, and also fence off about a week afterward, where no one from either his family or your family is allowed to come by the house to visit (calls are fine, if you and he are up for that). Why? B/c you two are going to need some sustained time together to adjust to your “new normal,” and you just won’t be able to do that if family members are coming in and out of your house, distracting you both, and disrupting this process. Family members, particularly family members of his who live close to you all, or who feel emotionally close to him, are not going to like this, but you both must stand firm. After you have had your week, or 10 days, or however much alone time you two think you need to have, then let the deluge start. Also, please do your DH a favor and don’t plan to “pick up X b/c you’re so close to [store name]” after you pick him up from the airport, because he will probably want to go straight home. I know that might seem obvious to you, but it’s not to everyone.
Iain "Get off my lawn!" Clarke* July 31, 2017 at 9:11 am This is probably too late, but it puts me in mind of my parents. In the latter part of his working life, my Dad spent many months at a time in Saudi Arabia while my mother stayed at home. While she missed him personally, she got very used to her own routines, and just getting on with everything. When Dad came home, he was around for a few week solid. That meant he made a complete mess of her routines by helping! And he was disappointed when there wasn’t a long honey-do list, as she’d just fixed things in his absence.
BMO* July 31, 2017 at 5:11 pm Mmhmm! I miss him very much, but I got on with things pretty quickly and now I’m going to have to factor him back into my schedule. It isn’t too different than what we used to do, but those small tweaks are catered to me of course ;) It’s funny, my friends were more affected than I was when he left. “I just can’t imagine” “how awful is it?” etc. It sucks, but you just do it, you know?
14 years* July 29, 2017 at 11:30 am Survey time! List your top 3 Disney animated movies and your age. I’m curious if people gravitate toward classics they grew up with, movies that came out when they were young, or movies they saw as adults. I’m 32 and mine are: 1) Robin Hood 2) Tangled 3) Sleeping Beauty (with Beauty and the Beast in a close 4th)
Kj* July 29, 2017 at 11:35 am Hmm, I’m 31 and two of mine are yours as well. 1. Mulan 2. Tangled 3. Robin Hood
KatieKate* July 29, 2017 at 11:41 am Do Pixar films count? If not: Age 25 1. Mulan 2. Lion King 3. Tarzan
Mimmy* July 29, 2017 at 12:24 pm Yeah, I think I prefer the Pixar films myself. I’m 43. Monsters Inc. is probably my favorite.
Aurora Leigh* July 29, 2017 at 11:47 am I’m 26, and it’s hard to pick just 3! 1) Pocahontas. My dad took me to see it in the theater when it came out and I loved it! 2) Lion King. Generation defining really. 3) Sleeping Beauty. I love the art and music! But I’m also quite partial to Tangled. And I really liked the live action Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast movies. They’re the perfect blend of nostalgia and something new.
Mimmy* July 29, 2017 at 12:30 pm Age: 43 No special order: – Beauty and the Beast (never seen the live action version though) – (If Pixar counts) Monsters Inc. – Frozen (if only for the one song, lol)
NowAGrandma* July 29, 2017 at 12:33 pm I’m 63. From my own childhood Lady and the Tramp The Incredible Journey 101 Dalmations From my time as a parent of young children The Brave Little Toaster The Little Mermaid Muppets Christmas Carol (which I still HAVE to watch every year)
Optimistic Prime* July 29, 2017 at 2:04 pm The Brave Little Toaster actually is not a Disney movie! It was originally supposed to be a Disney movie – the WDC had purchased the rights to the story, but they determined it would be too expensive to make as pitched to them. So a couple of Disney employees either left or got fired, formed their own production studio, and made it themselves. I think Disney invested in the movie but was not involved in the production. So Disney-adjacent? (As a matter of fact, The Brave Little Toaster was indirectly the reason for the beginning of Pixar – John Lasseter had stepped on some toes while trying to get TBLT made and got fired from Disney. A friend found out and snapped him up for Lucasfilm Computer Graphics, which eventually spun off into Pixar.)
Courtney* July 29, 2017 at 12:38 pm Ooh that’s hard, but 1. Beauty and the Beast (I prefer the new one) 2. Mulan 3. Oh god…I can’t. Something Pixar. Monsters Inc? The Incredibles? Ratatouille? Too hard! I’m 29. My (four year old) son’s favorites are Beauty and the Beast, Finding Dory, and Frozen.
Courtney* July 29, 2017 at 6:19 pm Wait!! I’ve made a terrible mistake! #3 is definitely Lilo and Stitch.
Kimberlee, Esq.* July 29, 2017 at 1:11 pm I’m 31. 1) Aladdin 2) The Little Mermaid 3) Mulan I reaaaalllly wanted to put The Black Cauldron on there, but the movie just wasn’t that good. :(
all aboard the anon train* July 29, 2017 at 1:15 pm 31 1. The Lion King 2. Mulan 3. Brave (The Lion King wins purely because when I first saw it as a kid I apparently told my parents how much I loved the plot….and they think it’s hilarious that I went on to do grad work in Shakespeare since TLK was influenced by Hamlet.) Beauty and the Beast, Robin Hood, and 101 Dalmatians are all tied for a close 4th, though.
As if* July 29, 2017 at 1:24 pm 45. Beauty and the Beast Moana Frozen I really don’t care for the older Disney films.
Optimistic Prime* July 29, 2017 at 1:56 pm Oh man, this is so hard for me because I’ve seen the vast majority of Disney animated movies and I love most of them. But 1) Lilo & Stitch (2002). I was almost 16 when it came out, so not really from peak Disney years, but I loved that they did something different. 2) The Little Mermaid (1989). I was 3 when it was released, so a bit part of my childhood and I was in peak princess era at the time. 3) Wreck-It Ralph (2012). I was an adult – in graduate school – but I’m a huge video game nerd so I was stoked! also I like the humor and the voice acting in this movie. The Lion King (1994) is my close fourth, mostly because of the music and animation. I’m 30. I do as a group love the Disney movies that came out during my childhood, but I think that’s partially nostalgia and partially because I grew up during the Disney Renaissance. Second favorite period is the 1960s-1970s movies, which came out before I was born.
Disney Movies List* July 29, 2017 at 2:08 pm Age 28. Mulan, Cinderella, tie between Beauty and the Beast and Pocahontas. If Pixar counts, add “Incredibles” in spot #2
HannahS* July 29, 2017 at 2:53 pm I’m 25. 1) Mulan 2) The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh 3) Mulan
Ermintrude Mulholland* July 29, 2017 at 3:54 pm Frozen deserves So many points for the baffled horror that everyone displays when Anna is explaining why she’s going to marry someone she Just Met. Love Aladdin. Really dislike old Disney. 40 years.
Clumsy Ninja* July 29, 2017 at 4:06 pm I’m 40. This is hard to do! 1) Beauty and the Beast 2) The Great Mouse Detective 3) Robin Hood
Zathras* July 30, 2017 at 11:29 am I’m so glad other people love The Great Mouse Detective! I’m 31 and that one has always been my favorite. I’m less sure what to put for the other 2 spots on the list.
CanadianUniversityReader* July 29, 2017 at 6:23 pm I’m 21. In no particular order: Peter Pan Cinderella Tangled
Merci Dee* July 29, 2017 at 8:21 pm I’m 40, and my 3 faves are Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, and The Incredibles. Gotta be honest, though – I absolutely loathe the old Disney flicks. Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, Cinderella. I would rather pluck my eyes out with a spoon than watch them.
NaoNao* July 29, 2017 at 9:11 pm I’m 38. Mine are: Beauty and the Beast (I’m a bookworm brunette, so no contest) 101 Dalmatians (love the artwork from that period, it’s my absolute fave) The Aristocats (again, the artwork! I love that sketchy, late 60’s look) *Runner up is totally Robin Hood too. It’s a mix of classics I saw on re-runs or that my family owned/library copies and things that were new releases at a formative time in my life. I also love stories about aristocratic or otherwise “noble” women/female animals and bouncy, a little naughty, high energy, rough around the edges men/male animals, I guess!
Bruce H.* July 29, 2017 at 9:25 pm I’m 63. When I opened this I was going to say that I don’t believe I have ever watched a Disney movie, but as I read other peoples’ answers I recognized 101 Dalmatians. I was a wee child when I saw it and hardly remember anything about it, so I don’t know if I should count it as my favorite or not.
Librarian from Space* July 29, 2017 at 9:53 pm What a great question! I’m 38. I love Mulan, The Emperor’s New Groove, and Moana. Well, a tie between Moana and Zootopia for 3rd place, actually.
Sylvia* July 29, 2017 at 10:21 pm 26. Moana, The Lion King, and Frozen. Moana and Frozen pushed The Little Mermaid and Hercules off of the list.
SaraV* July 29, 2017 at 11:23 pm 41, and I realized my top 3 are from three distinct eras. (I can’t really put these in a particular order) 1) Cinderella – classic Disney 2) Beauty & the Beast – “new” animated Disney. I was 15 when I saw it at the theater, and I remember murmuring “Oooo…” on that very opening scene, plus I love the music. 3) The Incredibles – Pixar. Just for the love of how they wrote the family dynamic between the four main characters. Surprised I haven’t seen Toy Story yet…
Levity Not Brevity* July 29, 2017 at 11:46 pm 49 1. Little Mermaid 2. Beauty & the Beast 3. Tie: Aladdin, 101 Dalmatians, Lion King, Monsters Inc, Incredibles
Jen RO* July 30, 2017 at 3:17 am I don’t like Disney movies too much (I wouldn’t go out of my way to watch or rewatch one), but my favorite is the Aristocats. It’s definitely nostalgia for me – I saw it when I was really young, in a time where animated movies (or foreign movies in general) were not available in Eastern Europe, and I’d always wanted cats (my mother didn’t). I’m 33.
Myrin* July 30, 2017 at 3:22 am I’m 26. 1. Hercules 2. Aristocats 3. Tie between Mulan and The Lion King
Rogue* July 30, 2017 at 10:06 am I’m in my early 30s. 1) Beauty and the Beast 2) The Little Mermaid 3) Aladdin
Rogue* July 30, 2017 at 10:10 am But I also love Sword in the Stone, Alice in Wonderland, The Lion King, Robin Hood, Monsters Inc.
Felicia* July 30, 2017 at 12:22 pm I’m 27 and I love most Disney movies so it’s hard to pick favorites. 1. Mulan 2. Beauty and the Beast 3. Frozen
Anon here yet again* July 30, 2017 at 1:00 pm Ooh… this is exciting! Okay: 32 1. The Little Mermaid 2. Aladdin 3. Brave (and Inside Out as a 4th)
LizB* July 30, 2017 at 1:17 pm 26, and I think I’d go with Hercules, Emperor’s New Groove, Mulan. If we’re allowing Pixar, The Incredibles takes the #2 spot and pushes Mulan off the list. (But really I love them all so this is an impossible question.)
Kathipen* July 30, 2017 at 7:36 pm Does Studio Ghibli count? My favorite movie is Nausicaa in the Valley of the Wind, followed by Spirited Away and Howl’s Moving Castle. I’d take those over any traditional Disney movies or Pixar movies, great though they are. I’m 63.
and Peggy* July 30, 2017 at 9:27 pm 26 – Moana, Mulan, The Lion King. Two of my faves are less about time and more about content and personal circumstances: Moana because I’m from New Zealand and as my display name might indicate, a Lin-Manuel fan; Mulan because I’m Asian and “Reflection” spoke to me :)
Kj* July 29, 2017 at 11:34 am I’m super-tired lately and feeling really down. I know some of this is my job, but I think it is more than that. I’m wondering how other people get out of a rut when they feel stuck. I’m seeing a therapist, I exercise daily, I spend time with my spouse, but nothing is helping that much. Anyone have any ideas?
ThatGirl* July 29, 2017 at 2:31 pm Start a new hobby. Take a class or do a craft or something. Consider a physical, too, to see if you have any deficiencies.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 8:39 pm My go to is check the basics. Are you getting all the rest you need, should look like 7-8 hours per night, easily. How is your water intake? What have you been eating lately? I know I tank when I eat a lot of junk or a lot of carbs. Don’t answer here, but bowels working? Two to three bowel movements a day is what to watch for. If the bowels aren’t working fatigue and depression can set in. And the toughest one for last: Goals in life. Do you have any? Nothing makes life more pointless than being without goals. We flounder, we are adrift just riding whatever wave happens by. Without knowing specifics, the best thing I can say is if you ate in a rut then change one thing you are doing and see where that puts you. Then change another thing and see where you land with that. Do one thing at a time so you can see if it is helping or not. I know some changes I have kept in spite of not being that helpful because I felt the change would be good in the long run. Human beings do not do well with stagnation. Growing is absolutely essential in having a quality of life.
Cheshire Cat* July 31, 2017 at 12:02 am See a doctor to rule out any medical issues! I was exhausted all the time a few years back, and chalked it up to stress. Turned out I had anemia.
Reunion Anxiety* July 29, 2017 at 11:40 am So, I have my 20th year reunion coming up in 2 weeks. I RSVP’d yes and paid the fee…but now am having 2nd thoughts. I grew up in a very poor and depressed town/county; I would say about 30% of my class had an opportunity to go to college, and an even smaller portion of us moved away once we did earn our degrees. I have done ok for myself – not amazing but solid middle class. At my 10 year reunion a few of us went back and were basically ignored – some people said some pretty crappy things. At that point I was still swimming in debt and barely making ends meet. Everyone told me by 20 years we’ve matured, I wouldn’t have that to worry about…well now I am worried. I just found out no one that has moved away is going back and I am trying not to freak out or be nervous. There are friends I’d genuinely like to see and that I cared about A LOT in high school and have thought about numerous times over the years -because we didn’t grow up with FB and email was really just beginning a lot of us lost touch after HS and college, especially those of us who moved away. Does anyone have an advice or words to calm my nervous self down before I go in there so nervous I can’t even carry on a conversation??
WellRed* July 29, 2017 at 11:56 am Can you reach to a friend who is going beforehand to tell them, Hey, looking forward to catching up with you at reunion! Also, I agree that everyone will have matured and probably become nicer.
Colette* July 29, 2017 at 12:33 pm Hopefully they’ll be polite. If they’re not, it’s because of them, not because of you. And it’s a sign that you did well to leave, because if you stayed you might be as insecure and scared of the rest of the world as they are.
Mobuy* July 29, 2017 at 3:23 pm I loved my 20-year. Everyone was far enough away from HS that old cliques didn’t matter except that it was fun to see people from back then. Everyone was comfortably middle aged and socially ept. I had a lot of fun. YMMV, obviously.
Drew* July 29, 2017 at 4:00 pm I went to my 10th and had a decent time, but mostly I was astonished by all the children running around. I skipped my 20th for several reasons: I wasn’t in a great place in my life right then, they scheduled it opposite something I had already bought tickets for, and the woman trying to put it together was being extremely unpleasant about the number of people who had not said they were coming. (I understand after that reunion, she basically said “Nope, not doing it again, someone else can organize.”) I’m told it was a lot of fun, but I don’t regret the choice. We didn’t have an official 25th, which bummed me out a bit. 30th is coming up and noises are being made, but I don’t think anything concrete has been proposed.
Clever Name* July 29, 2017 at 5:59 pm I’m going to my 20th reunion next weekend! I have no idea how many of us have moved away from our hometown. I know a fair number haven’t. I’m recently separated from my husband, so I’ll be going solo. So at least one person at another reunion possibly far away isn’t doing impressively well. Maybe tell yourself that you’re committing for staying like an hour and give yourself permission to leave if it’s not enjoyable.
GirlwithaPearl* July 30, 2017 at 11:07 am Give yourself permission and a plan to leave early if you aren’t enjoying it. I’m sure it will be fîne but that plan B can alleviate concerns. My same reunion is in two weeks and I am not going mostly because I already have plans that night but also because I refuse to be in a room with so many Trump voters I have no regrets about not going. But if I was going I’d probably find a way to enjoy it.
poppunkcat* July 30, 2017 at 11:40 am I went to my 10th and it seemed too close to high school still. The 20th was a lot more fun, as it seemed that everyone was just happy to see everybody else. The 25th was okay, but not well attended. My 30th is this year, and I’m not going as it was planned by the mean girls and I have no desire to see them lording it over the rest of us. Many people are not going to the 30th and the pleas on facebook to hurry up and get tickets(as it does not look to be well attended either) is kind of gratifying.
Foreign Octopus* July 29, 2017 at 11:46 am For all the cat owners out there, where do you stand on water additives to improve and maintain dental care? My adopted cat won’t let me get near her with anything resembling grooming implements but her breath is unpleasant, to say the least. I’ve seen some articles recommending water additives, some against them, and I’m just deeply confused. I’d love it if I could get your opinions to help me (and Bones) out. Thanks!
neverjaunty* July 29, 2017 at 1:58 pm Dental crunchy cat treats might work (they often have breath additives). However – sounds like she needs a trip to the vet to check her teeth?
Foreign Octopus* July 29, 2017 at 3:38 pm I’m planning on taking her at the end of August. I’d take her sooner but in Spain everything shuts down for the month of August (and I do mean everything) except in cases of emergencies. She had been seeing a vet weekly at the shelter so there are no immediate problems. I just want to head off any possible problems now.
Optimistic Prime* July 29, 2017 at 2:06 pm I have a dog, so not the same, but I use a water additive as an in-between maintenance to keep her breath fresh. I don’t think it’ll help if the animal’s breath is already very unpleasant – they need some dental care first, probably, and then the additive helps maintain in between cleanings. My dog drinks her water to no ill effects and I honestly think she can’t even tell the difference.
Foreign Octopus* July 29, 2017 at 3:41 pm I’m not sure of what’s normal cat breath to unpleasant to be honest. She’s my first cat and I’m playing a lot of it by ear. My tolerance might be low but she also spends a lot of time with her face in mine (separation anxiety and a desperate need to be loved after four years in the shelter) so I might just be a little more sensitive to it than normal.
Julia Gulia* July 29, 2017 at 5:43 pm I would never put a dental additive in my cats’ water fountain–replacing the pump and filters is $$$. I might consider it if we used a non-motorized water bowl. We do use a dental rinse that the vet provides. It’s C.E.T. Oral Hygiene Rinse by Virbac Animal Health. I know brushing a cat’s teeth is usually impossible, but this is a squirt bottle you just squeeze over the gumline. It’s easier to wrestle the cats into submission for this than it was to brush them. May be worth a try.
MommyMD* July 30, 2017 at 6:45 pm I’d rather have my cat’s teeth professionally cleaned under anesthesia once or twice a year. I do this for my one cat and two dogs. Money well spent.
charlatan* July 29, 2017 at 11:58 am Who here started playing Best Fiends when Alison posted about it a while back? I downloaded it and played for a week or so then basically forgot about it, but for some reason I have recently become enamored with it again.
Best Fiends player* July 29, 2017 at 2:44 pm I did, & am enjoying it far more than expected (or any other online game.) When Alison told us about it, she had negotiated a special price for a “starter package” of goodies to spend in the game. There was some talk of how expensive this might be/become, so for what it’s worth I haven’t bought anything yet and am at level 690.
Anatole* July 29, 2017 at 9:35 pm Wow! I’m only at 435. I also have not bought anything. Up until earlier this month I played it daily. I’ve recently downloaded Simon’s Cat Crunch Time, but Best Fiends is my favorite.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 12:24 pm I tried it when a friend endorsed it on YouTube, but I didn’t get very far before it wanted me to pay. I don’t like that so I deleted it. I’d rather pay a small amount to buy it and then be able to finish it. I don’t like in-game purchases unless they’re optional. Bummer, because I liked it. :(
LizB* July 30, 2017 at 1:20 pm Hm, I don’t think I’ve come across any required in-game purchases yet. It tries to sell me packs of stuff at least once a day, but there’s always an option not to buy them.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 2:51 pm I couldn’t get past a certain level unless I paid. Maybe I was doing something wrong? I’m not very good at games.
Toph* July 30, 2017 at 4:10 pm Many games have a certain time period, so if you want to get to the next level as soon as you’re elligible, you have to pay, or you can just keep doing other exploring type things on the level you’re on and if you do that enough the other levels eventually unlock. I’m not familiar with the specific game you’re talking about, and it’s totally possible some games truly are free only until level x and then you must pay. But most do have some free way to keep going, with purchases optional, it just involves a different style of gameplay. So it might be worth researching.
TheTallestOneEver* July 30, 2017 at 7:56 pm I’d never heard of it before her post, and it’s replaced Candy Crush Soda as my go-to time killer. I’m on level 343.
Nervous Accountant* July 29, 2017 at 12:03 pm Any nonparents who love back to school time just for all the cute supplies? Almost makes me wish I was going. Back to school. :-)
Red Reader* July 29, 2017 at 12:17 pm Yar! And I *am* a student — one more year of grad school!! — but I still don’t have any actual need for the cute supplies, I take notes and whatnot on my tablet and laptop. But I have enough composition books, spiral notebooks and index cards (not to mention pens) to outfit an entire elementary school, I’m sure. (I think most of it is going into the back-to-school donation box at work.)
Colette* July 29, 2017 at 12:30 pm Oh yeah, I love back to school, even though I have no need of them
Mimmy* July 29, 2017 at 12:32 pm Oh good, so it’s not just me, lol. And yes, it does make me miss school. If money were no object, I’d probably go again (I already have a masters and a graduate certificate).
rj* July 29, 2017 at 12:33 pm I am a university professor, with no need for new anything. I just look at stuff in stores and drool, basically.
Julianne* July 29, 2017 at 1:19 pm I’m a teacher, and I hate how early the back to school ads and displays start (of course, the reason I’ve been at Staples so much lately is because I made the choice to teach summer school…), but I do love new school supplies. My school provides us with basics, but I do buy myself things I like, which is mostly Post-It notes, come to think of it. School buys off-brand, which are good for some purposes, but I generally prefer the super-sticky kind. I also prefer to keep different sizes of Post-Its, including lined ones, for different purposes. I’m not very brand-conscious about nearly anything, but I always pay more for actual Post-It brand sticky notes.
periwinkle* July 29, 2017 at 1:20 pm I loved back-to-school shopping when I was a kid and yeah, the smell of fresh #2 pencils still makes me happy. Our company has an annual fill-a-backpack drive so it’s about time to browse through this year’s Jansport collection and pick out coordinating colors for spiral notebooks and pens. The Seattle area has some branches of Daiso, a Japanese home goods store in which almost everything priced at $1.50. I’ll admit to stopping by occasionally to see what totally kawaii school supplies they’ve got in stock…
Sprechen Sie Talk?* July 29, 2017 at 3:20 pm I had no idea about this Daiso thing! We are headed to LA in September, and I see they have some stores in the area, can’t wait to buy cute Japanese things!
Optimistic Prime* July 29, 2017 at 2:09 pm MEEEEEEEEEEEEE I just bought the most beautiful planner (Emily Ley’s Simplified Planner in Happy Stripes). It was expensive but worth it – I’ve been taking 5 minutes at the beginning of each work day to plan out my day’s work and I’ve found it really helpful to organize my thoughts and figure out what’s important. I had a weekly planner before and that just wasn’t cutting it, but I am extremely picky about planners. And colored pens are resurging because of adult coloring books, which makes me really happy because I love colored pens!
Sylvia* July 29, 2017 at 10:24 pm I like planners and it’s a little hard to restrain myself right now!
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 12:25 pm That was always my favorite thing about going back to school. New supplies!
Windchime* July 30, 2017 at 1:43 pm Are you asking if I go and wander the aisles and buy things I don’t really need, like gel pens and brand new pencils and maybe a notebook or two? Yes, yes I do. One year, I was trying to organize my knitting tools and I bought a big zip-up binder and a bunch of really sturdy clear pencil bags that have binder holes. I have a different bag for each size needle. It’s awesome. I think I’ll make a Target run.
AlaskaKT* July 29, 2017 at 12:05 pm So I asked a few weeks ago about tips for weaning my daughter but I hadn’t gotten around to actually weaning yet (mostly because it’s very convenient to have snacks on tap when it takes so long to even get to the road out here). Well thursday my husband flew out to see family and took our daughter with him. Now I’m dearly paying for it with a rock hard swollen chest. Lots of hot compresses for me! 0/10 would not recommend.
AlaskaKT* July 29, 2017 at 8:10 pm I’ve been expressing in the shower and that helps imensly. Unfortunatly I gave my pump away when I didn’t need it anymore.
MommyMD* July 30, 2017 at 6:49 pm Very cold compresses if you want to reduce milk supply. Express just enough milk so you are not in terrible pain. Expressing more can cause breasts to keep producing. Good luck!
Ermintrude Mulholland* July 29, 2017 at 3:58 pm Eep, pump or something, don’t risk mastitis! I didn’t see last week but do you want to wean? Don’t if you don’t want to, there’s no need
AlaskaKT* July 29, 2017 at 8:12 pm I was ready to wean, but I didn’t expect to do it like this. Between husbands deathly sick family members and my family moving across country next week, this was the last chance for some people to see our daughter. It was a buy tickets & fly out next day situation
Cher Horowitz* July 30, 2017 at 1:48 pm Hope this is not too late – jump into a hot shower and manually express enough to relieve the pressure. If you want to continue to nurse after your daughter comes back, express more to keep up the supply. Have had a lot of acquaintances swear by cold cabbage leaves in their bras as well.
..Kat..* July 31, 2017 at 6:11 am Okay, heat alone makes it worse (but expressing milk in a hot shower is fine). Express just enough milk to make your breasts comfortable. If you express more, you are stimulating them to make more milk, leading to a repeat of uncomfortable engorgement.
Junior Dev* July 29, 2017 at 12:14 pm I have been feeling very depressed this week. I take antidepressants and exercise quite a bit which usually keeps it under control but I got very stressed out by two things I’m not supposed to discuss (the Forbidden Topic of Weekend Threads, and politics). I stayed home sick Tuesday and spent a lot of time in the other afternoons lying in bed. I have a prescription for Ativan but have not been taking it because this is manifesting mostly as low energy and trouble concentrating which I don’t want to make worse with a depressant med. I know I’m not the only person here who struggles with mental health problems. How do you avert a crisis as you feel it coming on? How do you pull yourself out of the hole when already there? I have some ideas for myself this weekend but I’m curious what others do.
NoMoreMrFixit* July 29, 2017 at 12:38 pm Reach out to friends or family. I found when those sorts of feelings were piling on that being alone with them was the worst thing I could do. In those situations I practically lived with my best friend for days at a time. If you have a favourite place such as a museum or park, go there and spend some serious hours immersing yourself in enjoying it. If going out isn’t feasible due to weather or other reasons binge watching your favourite TV shows or movies can help. Or dive into a good book. Often I’ll reread the Lord of the Rings books. The common theme here is to do something, and with someone you feel totally safe with if at all possible.
Detective Amy Santiago* July 29, 2017 at 1:46 pm I usually give myself permission to wallow for X amount of time. I’ll read books or marathon something on Netflix or Hulu. When I have politics fatigue, I don’t open Facebook. — this may not be the healthiest way to cope, but it tends to work for me.
katamia* July 29, 2017 at 2:38 pm For me it’s best to withdraw for a bit because my tolerance for dealing with others is not always high to begin with. I’m actually not an introvert, but I grew up with incredibly needy and demanding parents, and even when I’m doing well psychologically I still have a bit of residual…not quite caregiver fatigue, but I’m not sure what else to call it. I’m also paranoid about doing to other people what my parents did to me, so I’m not great at reaching out in general, although it’s been years since I’ve felt like I needed to reach out like that anyway. So I’ll read a book or rewatch a movie or TV show I love, have exactly what I want for meals, try to do things I’ve been meaning to do but haven’t been able to, and just generally tune the world out. I don’t have any kind of rule about not checking social media (it’s not a major stressor for me, and I have a lot of friends who post really interesting articles), but I just find myself checking it less because I’m doing other things.
Simone R* July 29, 2017 at 4:09 pm A sign that I’m getting off is feeling like people don’t like me/my closest friends don’t care about what’s going on so it helps me a lot to tell people oh hey I’m feeling blah right now. It’s an easier thing to overcome than some other symptoms and can give me the push to do other stuff.
INTP* July 29, 2017 at 4:49 pm Like some people mentioned above, I do give myself permission to wallow for a bit. I think it’s healthy to do so occasionally. I’m not always GREAT about doing the following and sometimes stick my head in the sand instead, but my ideal scenario/advice to myself when I feel depression coming on is to go to bed early and stick to a routine (but a pared down one). Cut steps as possible – buy some precut veggies or whatever is needed to make cooking simpler, etc. Try to stick to a routine when I don’t feel like it. In the depths of depression I’m not going to, say, take a shower or do my laundry because I want to, but if it’s firmly a routine, I might semi-keep up with it. I’ll call family but I don’t make too many plans because just surviving my work week and basic chores tends to take all the energy I have. And of course remove stressors – unfollow political things, start a netflix series that is light and cozy and not too tragic or violent, etc. It’s not the time to save the world, you have to protect yourself for awhile.
Fellow Traveller* July 29, 2017 at 12:36 pm Looking for advice- My husband’s father passed away this past week. On top of the grief and emotions of losing a parent we are dealing with the estate and going through the house and possessions (40+ years’ worth of stuff- this is the house my husband grew up in). My husband’s only sibling lives abroad so we will mostly have to do go through and settle everything ourselves. My husband is the executor of the will. We live out of state, a 10 hour drive away, so whatever we do will have to be done over a weekend here or there when we can get back. We are definitely feeling overwhelmed by all there is to do. Folks who have experienced this- any do’s, don’ts or “wish I knew”s?
Kimberlee, Esq.* July 29, 2017 at 1:15 pm You might consider hiring help! You could sort of go thru and pick out stuff you want to keep, etc, and then hire someone else to manage an estate sale. Dealing with all of that at the same time you’re trying to mourn is just tough, I’m sorry for your loss :(
What's in a name* July 29, 2017 at 1:26 pm This what my BIL did for the MIL. We all took what we wanted and he brought someone in to either throw away or donate anything else.
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 2:04 pm I’m very fortunate in that the house cleanout and the passing were separate events. But I totally support the idea of contacting an estate sale person–10 hours away is crazy, and you probably have had to do it enough times already this year. I would also contact an estate lawyer in the town where your FIL lived to see what services s/he could offer and for how much in this situation. When my dad died out of state we hired the guy he worked with on the will for a flat fee just to be local point person, and it was totally worth it.
AfterBurner313* July 29, 2017 at 3:06 pm My next door neighbor’s kids had to deal with this. Both kids live out of state. The townhouse was Horders Lite. Time was worth more than getting money from things for them. Wasn’t filthy, just stuff accumulated from 50 years of never throwing anything out. 1. Get everything you want out. 2. If your loved one had anything you think might be valuable, get an appraiser. The next door neighbor’s appraiser bought the entire houze contents for X amount of dollars. Some appraisers will cherry pick, but hey, you don’t have to deal with that mammoth china cabinet. 3. Get all artwork/antiques appraised. Forget the circa 1960-1990s collectables (unless its baseball cards or something that has a strong niche market). The knick knack collectables are really only worth memories in many cases. *Remember you can never by more time on this planet. Figure out how much time and energy is going to placing the things on Ebay/do it yourself estate sale/garage sale. If you have money, hire someone to buy the contents and let them clear out the house. Neighbor kids did that at the end. Get a local realtor to put the house up. I am not a sentimental person. When my grandmother died, we had to rent TWO roll off dumpster to clear it out. There was really nothing of mad cash value. People delude themselves their stuff is worth more than it is. Main point YOU CAN’T BUY MORE TIME. Don’t muck around trying to unload those 100 Precious Moments figurines or that match book collection unless you already have that as a hobby. I’ve been in your leaky boat. It is so not fun. Sorry for your loss.. (hugs)
Situational Anon* July 29, 2017 at 5:25 pm When my mom passed in 2010 I was executor, and lived about 1200 miles away. I have two brothers, one local to my mom and one halfway between me and her house. She was somewhere between a packrat and a hoarder, so lots to go through. The only things spelled out in the will were % for the beneficiaries and who got the car. We pretty much applied the % to the monetary assets, not the other belongings, something my brothers and I agreed on. A few things that helped us – if we gave something to my mom, we got it back if we wanted it, period. For other items, we all put a colored post-its on anything we were interested in – it might be strong interest or mild interest – and there was no pressure to not have more than one person express interest in the same item. Once we had done that, for things that more than one person wanted, we took turns picking an item until they were all divvied up. We were all able to get to the house to do this in person, but maybe something like this could be done via pictures with the sibling abroad? Once the things we all wanted were decided upon, extended family members were given the chance to express interest in remaining items that they wanted if they were for sentimental reasons (versus utilitarian, like “I’ll take the pots and pans for my kid graduating from college next year”). Because each of my brothers could get some economic benefit from remaining some household items that didn’t have sentimental value, they got dibs on these before extended family did. Everything left after that was up for grabs by extended family, and all remaining was donated to various thrift stores and the like. I don’t know if any of these will work in your situation, but they were helpful in mine and helped keep most of the conflict out of this part of the situation. Condolences to you and your husband.
Stellaaaaa* July 29, 2017 at 5:29 pm If he had any antiques or collectibles, invite over any friends who might want to come and take it. Seems gauche, but you might as well. Post about free furniture on craigslist. College is starting up soon and I guarantee people will want the bigger pieces. Don’t feel guilty about throwing good stuff away.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 9:07 pm Delegate, delegate. Even a modest estate can take about 9 months to a year for the paperwork to process. You may not get good control over things in the house but you can get decent control over the money and the financial situation in general. Pick up a shredder if you do not already have one. I remember my husband laughing at me for shredding checks from a home equity loan. Yeah. FOUR years later I got a call from the bank wondering if my father wanted to use those checks. The lawyer had assured me the loan was closed, I guess not. I was glad to know I had shredded all the checks for the account. My husband thought I had some magical power to predict that one. As executor, your husband will have to keep estate records for seven years. I put them in a copier paper box and marked the shred date on the box. Unfortunately, my father had just done an estate for someone else. I put those papers in a second box and marked the shred date on that box. Keep track of your expenses. The estate can reimburse you. But talk it over with the lawyer. I am an only child so I decided that it was not worth the extra effort. Talk to your tax person. You will need to file a final return. In my case I was able to show a capital loss on the estate and take it as a deduction for several years on my own taxes. For myself, I needed some cash to handle the estate. Since I was the only beneficiary on the life insurance the first thing I did was cash in the life insurance. This gave me cash to pay for the (modest) funeral and pay some of my expenses incurred from processing the estate. (This sounds awful but we were on a tight budget when my father passed. Any additional expense was a problem.) Get copies of the death certificate. Here they are $10 each. I got ten and I doled them out cautiously because I had no idea how many I would use. I think I have one left. I asked each person who required a DC if they needed an original or if a copy was okay. Half the time a copy was okay. This saved money and saved running for more DCs. My husband was not good at picking out stuff to keep. He needed encouragement to keep even something that he clearly told me was special. Keep an eye on how your spouse is doing with this. Once the stuff is gone, it’s gone. If he does not want anything, encourage him that he can take a couple things and throw them out later if he decides. (Presuming he had a good relationship with his parents.)
fposte* July 30, 2017 at 10:42 am Oh, such good points. I got 10 death certificates too–that was probably more than I needed, but it wasn’t expensive in that county, and apparently it would have been a big pain to get more later. In addition to the point that your husband will have to file taxes next year, if FIL was 70 or older the executor will need to make sure that RMDs are taken from any tax-deferred retirement accounts by the end of the year if FIL didn’t do it already. However, I’ll also say that the IRS is really, really forgiving about mistakes in this area. Usually an explanation and correction is enough to get back on track, so if something gets missed, it’s not the end of the world.
KatieKate* July 29, 2017 at 12:40 pm So this is a weird one. I collect coins casually, which is anything from places I’ve visited and or scooping our handfuls at flea markets and figuring out what I want to keep later. I don’t display the coins, but I am trying to figure out a way to hold them better than “in a cup.” In my last haul, I ended up with a Nazi coin from 1938 and I am completely conflicted on what to do with it. 1. Keep it?? I am Jewish and while I am mostly disgusted that this thing is in my house, a part of me thinks it’s cool to have this piece of history. But I couldn’t imagine ever displaying it. 2. Donate it? I can’t imagine it’s rare, of if museums would even want it. 3. Throw it out? The history nerd in me is yelling “noooooo” but I would hate for it to end up with someone who would treat it like memorabilia. Thoughts??
rj* July 29, 2017 at 1:43 pm I would be alarmed if I found that. I might contact (this is based on places where I have seen Holocaust memorials/exhibitions) a local Jewish museum (I have gone to a great one in Philadelphia), or human rights museum (there’s one in Winnipeg, a city with a large Jewish community, so includes exhibits about Judaism and the struggle for human rights)? I would fear, like you, that someone might want to use it as memorabilia. These places might just have ideas for you even if they don’t want it.
Detective Amy Santiago* July 29, 2017 at 1:50 pm I would contact the Holocaust Museum and see if they were interested. Or some of the places that rj suggested.
NoMoreMrFixit* July 29, 2017 at 2:13 pm If you can’t sell it at a flea market check Google for coin shops or coin shows in your area. I doubt museums would be interested unless it’s in mint condition due to how many were made. For storing coins you have a few options depending on the size of your collection. Mounted in a frame is possible for smaller collections that have a common theme. Not practical for large collections. You can get coin binders and inserts that are plastic sheets with individual pockets for coins. Convenient and easy to store on bookshelves. Only real downsides are removing the coins from the pockets can be a pita so sorting your collection can be a challenge if you decide to rearrange it. The other option and the one used by hardcore collectors and pros is to get coin sleeves which are squares of cardboard with plastic windows. Put the coin in the pocket and then place each sleeve in a cardboard box with a lid. Rearranging them is a breeze. You can also get wooden cases but those get expensive as your collection grows.
Stellaaaaa* July 29, 2017 at 5:20 pm I’d probably toss it in a fountain and make a wish. Anyone who dives in there to steal the money is welcome to keep that coin.
Chaordic One* July 29, 2017 at 8:06 pm I don’t know what I’d do. I’d feel uncomfortable selling it at a flea market because of the kind of people who might want to buy such a thing. I wouldn’t want to encourage them or have them think it was a great.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 9:18 pm You can have cool artifacts in your house that have a less violent history. My suggestion is to first find out how much it is worth. It might be worth nothing and that would make the whole conversation moot. If it is worth something, you can consider taking the money from its sale and buying a New Cool Thing for your home. Or you can consider donating the proceeds to your favorite charity. My family is German and we tend to marry Germans. Being German is something that is a huge negative in our family. So when family member found spouse’s Nazi era memorabilia she went through a lot of the things you are saying here. This was his childhood, buuutttt….. I said to her, anything that causes that much mixed emotions needs to go. Surround yourself with positive things that do not pull you down. In her case, money was an issue. The items did not bring that much, maybe $100. I told her to use it to pay bills and forget about the rest. She was at a point in life where thinking too much would not help her. Sometimes the best we can do is a line up a couple options, pick one and just do it.
Jen RO* July 30, 2017 at 3:41 am Maybe it’s because I am not American/Jewish, but for me the Nazi coin would just be a piece of history like the others. I would keep it.
Rogue* July 30, 2017 at 5:21 pm If you want to get rid of it, you could mail it to me. I collect WWII stuff.
Rogue* July 30, 2017 at 5:26 pm If you’d like to speak with me about it, feel free to email me at citizen1776 @ gmail. I’m totally 100% serious. My grandfather was in D-day and I’ve always had a fascination with everything WWII related and am an avid collector historical artifact collector.
FiveWheels* July 29, 2017 at 12:45 pm My 17 and a half year old cat, who we rescued over 17 years ago, died last week and I feel absolutely horrific. Sharing here, pseudo anonymously, because I feel like if I discuss it with RL loved ones I won’t be able to even pretend to keep myself together.
Trixie* July 29, 2017 at 12:55 pm So sorry to hear this. It’s probably still very much a “raw” feeling right now and will be for a while. We try to remember all those lovely years together but ultimately want to do right by them. Eventually the pain will ease up a bit but we will always miss them. When I lost mine (six years ago this month), I was grateful I had a second kitty in the house so we could comfort each other. Sincere condolences.
FiveWheels* July 29, 2017 at 1:42 pm Thank you. We have other cats but this baby was my “special” one.
Julia Gulia* July 29, 2017 at 6:03 pm You never really get over that special one. (Mine was a cat, too, but I called her ‘my Lassie’ because it was good shorthand that people understood.) It’s been three years and I still miss her every day.
nep* July 29, 2017 at 1:27 pm So, so hard. There’s nothing quite like that void. I hope you’re allowing yourself to grieve however you need to. Peace
FiveWheels* July 29, 2017 at 1:46 pm I’m semi okay if I’m in a situation where she wouldn’t be like work. But even coming to the door makes me feel sick because she used to greet me. I know this will get better but it’s just hard to even walk right now.
nep* July 29, 2017 at 2:41 pm I hear you. There’s no silence like that — first couple mornings, waking to his absence was beyond sad.
nep* July 29, 2017 at 2:43 pm (And initially I was thinking, damn, this is always going to sting like this. Inexplicably, time helps heal.)
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 1:56 pm Oh, that is a long, long partnership. I’m so sorry for your loss, and for the shadow it’s casting on your life.
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 3:47 pm “My heart has joined the thousand, for my friend stopped running today.” I am so sorry for your loss.
Your Weird Uncle* July 29, 2017 at 4:22 pm Oh, I am so sorry to hear that you lost your friend. I, too, recently said goodbye to my 17 year old sweetheart Oliver and just reading about your loss is making me tear up. Everyone knows how hard it is to lose a pet, but I had a difficult time explaining how Oliver was more than a pet, he was like my best friend or my pet soulmate. I’m sure it’s no different for you. I wish you peace and healing in your recovery.
anon24* July 29, 2017 at 8:23 pm *hugs* My husband rescued my first cat when he was just old enough to be away from his mom. He’s about a year old now and he is my very special baby. I tear up just thinking about him dying of old age in the (hopefully) very far future. I am so sorry for your loss. I hope the pain gets better. Let yourself grieve for as long as you need.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 9:21 pm I am so sorry. Cry. Tears are to help us process what we see in life. You don’t have to stay put together. It’s okay to cry. It’s okay to be human. Each day take time to feel the feelings.
Anatole* July 29, 2017 at 9:56 pm I’m so sorry for you loss. I also lost my “special” cat earlier this year. Thankfully I didn’t have to discuss it with loved ones face to face (so thankful for electronic communication) or I would have been an inconsolable mess. But as time has gone on, I can now discuss her without tears. I still miss her something terrible but time has allowed me to recalibrate to a life without her physical presence. Big hugs.
selenejmr* July 30, 2017 at 8:50 am I’m so sorry. We had been treating one of our 9yr-old girls for kidney disease for the last 11 months. Yesterday it was discovered that not only did she have kidney disease, but she also had a kidney blockage. They said they could operate and extend her life a few months, but that just seemed cruel to put her through all of that. So we said goodbye to her yesterday. We had gotten a new kitten a week ago so she and her sister didn’t even have a chance to adjust to the little guy yet.
Your Weird Uncle* July 30, 2017 at 2:24 pm I’m so sorry for your loss. It’s so hard to say goodbye to our fur babies, they become such an integral part of our lives. Internet hugs from afar, and I hope your new kitten brings some much-needed light into your life!
Ask a Manager* Post authorJuly 29, 2017 at 1:09 pm So we closed on our new house a week ago. The seller has been renting it back from us for a week, but tomorrow she is officially out and we take possession of it, and on Monday we begin a week of insanity. I have the following set up for a five-day period: painting, yard re-grading, runner installation for the stairs, sump pump repair, security installation, locksmith, shades person, handyman stuff, shower glass replacement, and I think something else I’m forgetting. It’s not clear to me why I thought it was wise to schedule this all for the same week, and before we’re even living there, but so be it, it’s happening. All of which is to say — I’m going to write fewer posts than usual next week. Do y’all want something in their place — like reprints of really old stuff you may not have seen? That’s easy to set up and takes almost no time. Or maybe a few extra “ask the readers” posts? Updates? Or does it not matter either way?
Kimberlee, Esq.* July 29, 2017 at 1:18 pm My votes are Updates and Ask the Readers! I say, post like 3 Ask the Readers each day, clear out a bit of question backlog, and let us just run rampant on there having our fun. :)
NoMoreMrFixit* July 29, 2017 at 2:15 pm I’ll second that. And good luck – you certainly have a busy week ahead of you.
katamia* July 29, 2017 at 2:17 pm I don’t always make it here during the week, but seconded, especially updates. I love seeing those.
Victoria Nonprofit (USA)* July 31, 2017 at 11:40 am Non-controversial Ask the Readers, so you don’t have to worry about monitoring comments! (No mental health questions, no pantyhose, no car/driving other people, etc.)
Courtney* July 29, 2017 at 1:18 pm Updates are always amazing! Especially if you post that conversation you mentioned in yesterday’s open thread, even if it is setup so we can’t comment. My drama llama really wants to hear the details.
Helen* July 29, 2017 at 8:27 pm +1 to the conversation mentioned yesterday. Or the update you mentioned a few weeks back in the Friday thread that you have not published, because of how much of a storm the original letter caused. I admit to being curious about both of those, even if there were no comments allowed. (Like Courtney, my inner drama llama really wants to hear the details)
Don't turn this name into a hyperlink* July 29, 2017 at 1:18 pm Congrats! Hope you’re stocked up on coffee and protein! I’ll cast a vote for Ask the Readers.
What's in a name* July 29, 2017 at 1:21 pm It’s not clear to me why I thought it was wise to schedule this all for the same week, and before we’re even living there, but so be it, it’s happening. You answered your own question in the question. Because you aren’t living there yet. If I were to move to a new house I would want at least a month so I could take my time and get everything ready. It’s too easy to just live with things the way they are when it means you get inconvenienced to get it done. I do not want to move the furniture. I do not want to use the kids bathroom.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJuly 29, 2017 at 1:27 pm Yeah, definitely for the painting. But I could have held off a week on all the rest and it would have been much more convenient than constantly going back and forth between the two houses. I tend to want everything done RIGHT NOW. This is causing me major angst on the furniture front, because all I want to do every minute of the day now is buy furniture, but I know I should wait until we’re living there and have a better feel for what we’ll want.
Saturnalia* July 29, 2017 at 7:13 pm I did some super neurotic measuring so I could scratch that “buy furniture now” itch when I moved :-) the upside is that I have *perfectly* fitted bookshelves in the wasted space down a long hallway with a sloped ceiling. The downside is realizing how few websites make furniture dimensions prominently visible! Have fun!!
SpiderLadyCEO* July 29, 2017 at 1:22 pm Seconding updates and ask readers, I love those! And congrats on your house :) I wish you the best getting all of your to-do list checked off!
nep* July 29, 2017 at 1:25 pm Updates and/or ask the readers would be great. All the best with the work at your new home. Exciting times.
Obi-wan's wife* July 29, 2017 at 1:41 pm Oh I like given subject like “weird intern things” etc, and throwing it to readers for responses. Y’all are pretty great with work stories.
Countess Boochie Flagrante* July 29, 2017 at 1:53 pm I love having posts to chatter on during the day, so I’d love to see any combination of updates/reprints/ask the readers. Whichever of these is the least work for you!
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 1:55 pm What’s your ability to moderate going to be like? If that’s going to be comparatively limited as well, I think reposts are less likely to require a firm hand, or you could do “Ask the Readers” posts and say upfront that you’re requesting a focus on stories rather than discussion. If you’re really going to be out of commission, you could just not have comments on any posts this week and limit it to updates and reposts.
Ask a Manager* Post authorJuly 29, 2017 at 2:02 pm That’s a good point. It’ll be harder to wade in if something needs it, which is a point in favor of reprints. (The other point in favor of reprints over “ask the readers” posts is that I think reprints are better for non-commenters, which is the majority of readers.)
LCL* July 29, 2017 at 3:11 pm Yep. Reprints. Step away from the blog. Don’t you tell people that we should use our vacation time? Take your own advice and switch mental gears for awhile. If you can’t moderate up to your usual high standards, one post could be a bomb that could cost you hours of damage control when you come back.
Optimistic Prime* July 29, 2017 at 2:12 pm All of the above sound great! I especially like Ask the Readers posts.
Marcy* July 29, 2017 at 2:28 pm Any of those other than reprints would be great (sorry, I just find the reprint post kinda annoying). Good luck with the move!
Foreign Octopus* July 29, 2017 at 3:35 pm How about the strangest letters you’ve ever received? Or something similar like that? Then you won’t need to weigh in as heavily and it’ll also be interesting to revisit the oddities of the past. My favourite (although that’s the wrong word, I know) was the letter about the employer having a new employee delivering and leaving a letter at the grave. I’d be interested in hearing which are your top 5/10 weirdest letters.
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 3:50 pm Extra ask the readers please – I love those. I’d personally like to exchange tips on coping with stress.
Candy* July 29, 2017 at 4:12 pm I vote for updates or ask the readers. Quite often when I’m bored at work I click Surprise Me so I feel like I’ve read most of the older questions now
Ask a Manager* Post authorJuly 29, 2017 at 4:58 pm Okay, I am doing a mix of all of those. It was interesting to see that hardly anyone wanted the reprints! I am including one reprint each day because those are the easiest/fastest for me (and I think more interesting to non-commenters than doing a lot of “ask the readers” posts would be), but I’m mixing in the other types as well (and there will still be a new short-answer post each day and a few new standalone questions as well). Thank you for helping me think this through!
New Bee* July 30, 2017 at 2:30 am Late, but I do like the reprints! Especially since the old posts are labeled “terse answer Tuesday” or “wee answer Wednesday” and such, so there are plenty of posts in the archives I haven’t read.
Zinnia* July 30, 2017 at 9:04 pm I don’t mind reprints! There’s usually less drama as we know the situation is long past and the writer is unlikely to be reading. But still a good discussion, and even if it derails, that’s not a problem since the focus isn’t on helping the writer.
Victoria Nonprofit (USA)* July 31, 2017 at 11:42 am Heh. I think some of us don’t like the reprints because we’ve literally read every post on here (yikes!). But that only applies to a tiny group of longtime, dedicated readers/commenters, who are not your main audience. :)
Sibley* July 29, 2017 at 5:06 pm I’ve been there recently. Some unsolicited advice: Add house cleaners to the list if you haven’t already (and can). Trust me. Have food there. You will be stuck while someone is working/coming/going and can’t leave for food and will be starving. Have paper towels, hand sanitizer, soap, toilet paper, etc. Bring your phone charger. You will spend a ton of money. Wince. It’ll be ok.
IvyGirl* July 29, 2017 at 5:58 pm This. And at least one of those things will be rescheduled. Because contractors.
Typhon Worker Bee* July 30, 2017 at 3:54 pm Our realtor is paying for cleaners at our new place before we move in, and at our old place after we move out. She’s dealing with all the scheduling too. SO GREAT. We love our realtor, who also brought us the keys to our new place attached to the biggest bunch of balloons I’ve ever seen.
Anono-me* July 29, 2017 at 6:03 pm I suggest old posts and maybe a few readers updates with all the comments locked. Take your vacation time 100% next week. We will miss you, but we will survive. You say you feel like some big premove thing has been forgotten. My guess is the floors. Shampoo the carpets and have any hardwood floors buffed and glossed if they need it. Congratulations on the new house.
Red* July 29, 2017 at 8:05 pm Updates are my absolute favorite! Ask the Readers posts are also a good time, and obscure reposts would be a fun read, I’ve only been on here about a year or so.
Toph* July 30, 2017 at 1:26 pm Updates and Ask the Readers! I’d also say, even though it may feel like insanity to do all of this next week and before you’re living there, I think you’ll in the end be glad you did.Obviously, not everyone is the same, but every house I’ve purchased we had a list of certain “must do before we move in” things and then some other “we’ll get to that after” things, and we either never got to the “after” things or we got to them way way way later. Once we were moved in it was way too easy to continue to procrastinate. So even though every time we’d see the not-done thing still not-done it’d vex, my new perspective on house buying is anything I really want done has to be done before move in. Which is a long way of saying, I do think you were wise to schedule all of that for the same week, even if it might not feel like it at the moment.
overcaffeinatedandqueer* July 29, 2017 at 1:12 pm I’m installing 1602 AD, a vintage computer game, on my two-year old laptop. Crossing my fingers and hoping it’s not too old to be playable! I swear I spent half my preteen/teenage years playing that game- but let’s just say, if the game were a person it would be almost old enough to vote by now!
SpiderLadyCEO* July 29, 2017 at 1:20 pm OMG Good luck! If it doesn’t work, is there a dupe you can play online, or a mimic machine?
overcaffeinatedandqueer* July 29, 2017 at 4:12 pm It took a lot of troubleshooting, looking through gaming forums, and cursing, but I got it!
Sherm* July 29, 2017 at 1:33 pm Hehe, yeah, I enjoy this game called Pharaoh from 1999. The graphics aren’t great, even by 1999 standards, I would say, but something about it is addictive. Speaking of older games, there’s an arcade near where I live that has video games from the 80s, and little kids love playing those games! I would have thought that they would find such games to be way too old and crude, but apparently not!
Simone R* July 29, 2017 at 4:12 pm I LOVE pharaoh. We played it all the time in 6th grade whenever we couldn’t go outside for recess. I occasionally played it on my parents ancient computer when I was home from college until they finally got a new MacBook.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 12:32 pm We have one of those arcades! You pay around $8 and can play as long as you like. I tend to get bored really fast, especially if we go on Saturday and it’s super crowded. I don’t like waiting forever to play my favorite games and I’m not that great at them, so I get tired of it quickly. It’s fun to go, though, because of the nostalgia factor.
SpiderLadyCEO* July 29, 2017 at 1:19 pm Y’all I just want to gush: I went on a third date with NiceBoy this morning and he was SO NICE! He did a Pokemon Go raid with me just bc it matters to me, and respected my boundaries and was just so, so sweet. I have never dated a boy like this before! It’s such a nice change. :D
Darkest before Dawn* July 29, 2017 at 1:20 pm So my husband and I were given notice on our apartment… The landlord is selling the house. We are now officially priced out of our area. With no raises or better paying jobs on the horizon, we will not be able to afford the going rate in the are which is about 2.5x more than what we pay now. We are looking at having to sell most of what we own, or paying half of what we pay for rent for a storage unit (probably both), and having to surrender our cats to the pound (no one we know can house them either temporarily or permanently, and re – homing efforts rarely work here, a sad and common story when the majority of landlords prohibit pets.) …and moving across country from one another to our respective hometowns and parents’ houses, as no one else can host us and said parents have downsized to the point where even one of us is pushing it. If it comes down to moving out of the area, both my husband and I will lose our jobs. Transferring somewhere is not possible, neither of our jobs will do a straight transfer, and neither of us are eligible to apply to another position or branch at this time. We are both somewhat specialized in what we do, so finding new jobs will take awhile Unfortunately even if suitable apartment does become available in time, we may still be unable to afford the deposit, 1st month’s rent, and the truck to move. Thanks to outstanding medical bills, we were already short on cash and staring bankruptcy in the face. All of this, and I can’t tell anyone. I can handle hearing: “Well you never should have moved away from your hometown if you couldn’t afford it.” My husband and I have been able to afford it for the 9 years we have been married. Also whose hometown? Mine or my husband’s? (Unfortunately this kind of conversation has also been known to devolve into “you should have known this could happen when you married a ‘someone’ from another state.”) I can handle hearing: “You should never have adopted cats knowing there could have come a day when you wouldn’t be able to keep them.” Because we obviously adopted them on a foolish whim! Pets are just like toilet tissue, you just flush ’em when you are done, right? One of our cats we’ve had for 8 years, the other we have had for 3. If it was a matter of choice my husband and I would be homeless first! But with the local kennels – sorry misnomer- “Overnight Pet Spas” having limits on length of stay and charging as much as our rent… we can’t. For the record I can stomach a little “I told you so.” I am just not ready to hear: “Well at least you don’t have kids!” We made a home for ourselves here for +8 years. Now, everything is falling apart, and there may be nothing we can do about it. In all that time, I have had people tell me our home is not worthy of that name because there are no children there. We have been asked not to call ourselves a “family” because we are *just* my husband and I and our two cats. We have been asked why we even got married if we didn’t plan for children? We are going on 40, have had awesome lives, have had good paying jobs before and after finding one another, and yet we have been asked countless times: “When are you going to settle down, accept REAL responsibility, and learn what REAL love is? When are you going to stop “Playing House” and get on with it? Not having kids is Ridiculous.” So… After all this. After YEARS of this… I can almost guarantee that I will find out from everyone that the ONLY thing we did right – in all that time – was NOT have kids. Thank you. Thank you to anyone who was listening.
Don't turn this name into a hyperlink* July 29, 2017 at 1:30 pm There isn’t much I can do, but I will send you and your OH an Internet hug.
Purple snowdrop* July 29, 2017 at 1:32 pm Oh my goodness. I am so sorry to hear everything you’re dealing with. I hope everything somehow works out not-too-badly.
Obi-wan's wife* July 29, 2017 at 1:45 pm I’m so sorry! Actually verklempt for you right now. This just sucks from any view you take on it. I hope the best for you and your husband and furry children!
Darkest before Dawn* July 29, 2017 at 8:26 pm Hello Obi-wan’s wife Rereading what I wrote earlier, despite feeling down for the count, baring all publicly has made me to want to rally. This support from you (sorry I made you verklempt!) and knowing that people here – and elsewhere – are willing to offer their support is fortifying. Hopefully I can now escape the feelings of self – pity, (I felt a lot of that this morning) and return to trying to find solutions. Some of what lays ahead is may be inevitable, but I got a good reminder that much of this is still up to chance and there may still yet be a way. Thank you kindly for your well wishes.
LCL* July 29, 2017 at 3:13 pm Oh man, I hurt for you. Those people that are telling you your family is insufficient? They are not your friends. If you feel able to, if you told the general region where you live someone local to your area may have some concrete ideas.
Christy* July 29, 2017 at 4:04 pm Oof, I’m sorry. That’s a whole lot to deal with. I’m sorry you’re dealing with it. Is there any chance of moving into a group house or getting roommates? Obviously it’s not an ideal solution. But I have married friends who have a roommate, and I know people in their 40s who have multiple roommates. Is there a suburb where you could live with roommates? Also, the people who blame y’all for marrying someone from out of state are patently ridiculous. And the ones who are grateful you don’t have kids are straight up jerks.
Red Reader* July 29, 2017 at 5:30 pm Yep – my house is four adults (two couples) (plus two dogs and three cats) all in our 30s in a 4 bedroom house, and we’re planning on sticking with this setup for at least several more years. I love having housemates.
Darkest before Dawn* July 29, 2017 at 8:56 pm Unfortunately people were hurt when we got married. Because we were from two different states, we had had an idea that we could try to meet in the middle, so no one would be excluded from the wedding. It was very idealistic, and I thought nothing could go wrong with this plan and I was destined to have a Happy Wedding! Soooo, of course no one could make it. Wedding planning caused so much strife between us and our families. We finally realized no matter what, someone would be hurt, decided that we were not going to choose one family over the other, and eloped. Eloping was not a mistake because we realized that the important thing was to be married. At the time we were often reminded that if we’d come from the same place we wouldn’t have to choose, and this was a bed of our own making, so hurry up and piss the other family off (never spelled out quite like that but the feeling was there!) Not happening. We choose to upset everyone. Some ten years later most everyone has forgiven us, however in the occasional throes of disagreement, sometimes someone will throw out that “such and such” wouldn’t be a problem, you know, if we had both come from the same place! To that I usually respond “That may be true, but oh well too late for that now!” and they will realize what they said and apologize. Unfortunately feeling vulnerable like this, I am just scared it will be said and hit home.
Temperance* July 29, 2017 at 11:56 pm Something to consider: Booth and I are from the same small town, and live a few hours away. You know what? Visiting still sucks. Family gets EXTREMELY competitive wrt our time, and we never get to enjoy a visit because we’re always running around.
Darkest before Dawn* July 30, 2017 at 4:15 pm Yup. If you cannot make anyone happy (and you never will), please yourself! He was the right man, everything else in the end was trivial. That we came from different places? We were lucky to find one another. Our families don’t like to be reminded that they can be petty this way, so when I ask: “well would you have rather I didn’t find the love of my life, and just, you know, live here, with YOU, forever, complaining everyday about how much I hate it here, and I hate everyone, and how I want to leave…” I usually get waved off at the point, and subject is dropped. Anytime someone gets on our case about moving closer, we remind them about how they could barely be bothered to see us when we lived in the same city… What difference would it make being closer? Or… yeah! Maybe we will move back! Back to the other family’s hometown… They don’t like that either. Best of luck with your own family maneuvers Temperance!
tigerStripes* July 30, 2017 at 11:34 pm Your family sounds like they have some issues – blaming you because you were trying to hold your wedding somewhere neutral for both families? Sorry this is happening to you. Wish you the best, and your kitties too!
Ermintrude Mulholland* July 29, 2017 at 4:08 pm Those people are jerks. I am sorry you are having to deal with this. We seem to be having a similar life bomb couple of months and it is terrifying and so disempowering. Sending you all the best wishes, hold onto the hope that it just Has to work out- it’s what I am desperately doing.
Darkest before Dawn* July 30, 2017 at 4:48 pm Wishing you the best in your times of trial Ermintrude Mulholland. I am so sorry to hear you are getting shelled as well. While I did not imagine that I was the only one in the world, I actually kinda hoped I was. I am grateful that there are people who understand, and I don’t have to feel alone… but by the reverse, I also know that those who understand the best, are going through a storm themselves. Keep fighting, we WILL find a way.
Drew* July 29, 2017 at 4:08 pm This sounds so hard and I’m sending you and your husband all the hugs. I wish I had a solution to give you.
Darkest before Dawn* July 30, 2017 at 4:53 pm Do a kind deed for someone – and I will be pleased knowing you took this to heart, and would help a complete stranger. Thank you, Drew.
King Friday XIII* July 29, 2017 at 5:01 pm I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this. I live in Portland, where I see this happening a lot too. My family and a lot of my friends have been slowly scooting further and further out into the suburbs, but I’m guessing if that was an option for you, you would have already looked at it. My advice before you go home is for you and your husband to have a plan, even if it’s a plan you end up changing, just so there’s some future you’re looking toward and not an indefinite black hole in front of you. Freelancing? Lower COL areas where one or both you can find a job? Just knowing there’s a plan can make such a difference to your peace of mind. Jedi hugs for you if you want them, and I’m so sorry again. I wish you and your husband and your cats all the best, and please remember that the choices you made were the right ones given the situation at the time. You gave your cats a good home for as long as you could. I hope something better comes along soon for you.
Darkest before Dawn* July 30, 2017 at 7:11 pm Thank you for your kind words. This is happening to many families we know, and that is why I am so scared. We are not the worst off by far, there are others that need much more help than we do. Down the street there are families living in vans running extension cords into their overcrowded relatives’ house, praying that county workers won’t tow them for parking in the easement, and CPS won’t find out and take their kids. There are disabled seniors sleeping in church doorways, and roughing it in the bush because they cannot find anyone willing to accept their housing voucher. We used to be able to help anyone who asked unconditionally; the last few years we’ve lived here we were able to make ends meet, but rarely able to help others. Now I am praying that I’m seeing the point where we will never be able to help anyone else again. Anyway. You are right about making a plan (and everything else actually, though the cats will sting badly if we cannot find a suitable solution for them). Focusing on making a plan, and remembering plans happen one step at a time has definitely helped. Now we just have to find a way to Beat The Clock.
Darkest before Dawn* July 30, 2017 at 7:29 pm *Gasp!* I am praying that I’m NOT seeing the point where we will never be able to help anyone else again. Like everyone here I want to help. Watching my favorite Japanese cat Ten Miginikuroi interfere with his mama’s laundry on Youtube helps too. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWkzFCyklnOAFJoJ2pD34fQ Oh Ten-chan what I do if I didn’t get to see a videos of you slamming doors with rabbit kicks and getting brushed off against your after escaping outside into the snow?
Stellaaaaa* July 29, 2017 at 5:16 pm I am so, so sorry, The same thing happened to me last year and it was terrifying. It’s the worst fear and stress in the world to have lived somewhere for close to 10 years and then find out that everything else got more expensive in that time. Don’t listen to anyone who tries to make it your fault. You were a good tenant and you paid your rent. Your landlord should have told you when he started thinking about selling the house. It is cruel to expect good tenants to move at a moment’s notice. If you’re the sort of person who works through problems by taking action, look at the listings constantly. Get up early and check every single day. Get a type-A friend to help you. I found my current place in a very early morning search, when the listing had just gone up but was not yet filtered through all of the housing ad boards. In my state, selling a house does not automatically mean that tenants have to move. All it means is that the new owners have tenants now, and their current leases still apply. The tenants would not be forced to leave unless the new owners intended to move into the house themselves, and they couldn’t make you leave until they were ready to move in. You would have to check the paperwork on their lease where they’re currently living to make sure they weren’t actually living somewhere else. The idea is that you can’t buy a house when you already have one, and then kick out the current tenants in an effort to get new tenants for higher rent on new leases. It’s worth looking into this a little. Landlords don’t always know this tidbit about tenant law. You just have to make sure this applies to your state.
Darkest before Dawn* July 30, 2017 at 11:51 am Hello Stellaaaaa, I regret that when I wrote in yesterday I apparently cast my landpeople in bad light… Absolutely not my intention at all. While I appreciate your advice, I am now honor bound to elaborate their part in the situation, as I did not provide an adequate explanation yesterday. Our landlord took us and our cats in, when our previous situation became untenable. They have always accepted less than the market rate in rent, in order to help us and keep us around because they knew us and liked us and know families in the area struggle. Even though we started out with a lease, they’ve always made it clear that if we needed to move, they would not hold us to it. That was years ago, and we have since graduated to existing on month to month basis. Both him and the landlady are a retired couple, and unfortunately after experiencing several health issues this year, their children have persuaded them to move and be with them. They are having to sell almost everything they have from their home of +35 years, and need to renovate the house such that it will command a price to provide for them in their twilight years. These renovations will make the structure uninhabitable for months. Though these folks have resisted selling to this point, last Thanksgiving flying out, they realized that their home was no longer the family gathering place – their children had assumed hosting duties, and their kids and grandkids were returning to see them less and less. When we got the call they were changing their tickets to stay an extra week, the writing was on the wall for us, and we knew it was a matter of time before this was going to happen. Truly the landlord was more upset than I was when he broke the news. I willed myself to be impassive, because I know what moving means for them – they are giving up their own dream and irrevocably changing the lives around them. They know that without an affordable place that will take our cats, we are left with very difficult choices. They themselves would take the cats in for us, but they are on the verge of having too many already, and need to come up with their own plan for their pets. We were actually given more notice than the law legally requires in this state, and they even stopped collecting rent in order to help us save for a deposit somewhere else (which to my great shame, I found myself verklempt and unable to decline). Truly both him and the landlady are doing their best to help us, they are just unable to stop the clock right now. The problem is we could save and live free for months, but at our rate of pay, one month of rent at the current rate (which skyrocketed in the last 2 years), will take more than 2 times more than my husband’s current take home pay. Kills me, because his employer got much better insurance this year… and we pay almost 300 more a month for it! My take home, doesn’t even cover the rest of the bills. Unless war is declared, a natural disaster strikes, or our state secedes, the affordable housing shortage is only going to get worse.
Darkest before Dawn* July 30, 2017 at 7:36 pm I am also very sorry you went through this last year Stellaaaaa. I want to thank you for all of your advice and the laugh I got when I read that I should Get a type – A friend… ’cause I know you would absolutely be my go to person if you could! Take good care of yourself.
Julia Gulia* July 29, 2017 at 5:56 pm Whoever is telling you this crap is not worthy of being a parent themselves.
Darkest before Dawn* July 30, 2017 at 2:41 pm Tell me about it. I am all for: “Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself” “live and let live” and the like – but man is it hard to live by those words, when people don’t let up! Though I have never gotten to the point of issuing ultimatums, once I see that the discussion of our fertility is becoming a THING (rather than a than an occasional topic of conversation,) I’ve been known to become mysteriously unavailable for future engagements. Honestly though, if they only knew. The parents who are the most vocal about our ‘ignorant choice’ (because they Know we are Good People who would DO the right thing if we hadn’t been swayed by *insert bad influence,* please let us pressure you!) are my greatest reassurance whenever I question myself. If I am awake at night it isn’t because I regret, it’s because I feel bad for their kids.
NPG* July 29, 2017 at 6:37 pm Oh man, that sucks; I get some of it because I’m in a somewhat similar situation. Like many others, there’s not much I can do other than pray and hope for the best.
Darkest before Dawn* July 30, 2017 at 2:49 pm Thank you for your thoughts and prayers NPG. I will pray and hope for the best for you too!
NPG* August 6, 2017 at 9:30 am Hey Darkest – I know it’s probably entirely too soon, but has there been any improvement in your situation? I’ve prayed for you a couple of times throughout the week.
Darkest before Dawn* September 17, 2017 at 8:26 pm Hey NPG, How are you holding up? I am sorry I haven’t updated yet, I should have one ready for the Sept 23 Open Thread. Unfortunately I have had to work and didn’t want to take up space with a filler update. Much is well, and all will be revealed soon. ;)
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 9:44 pm Your family really sucks. With remarks like this no wonder you moved away. Who’d want to be around that. It’s funny/odd how their words can echo in our heads in times like this. I feel pretty certain that no one on this blog lives closer than 5- 8 hours a way from me. So I figure you are not close either. If you were, I would try to help in whatever way…. Sincere suggestion. If you cannot find any other solutions I suggest going to the biggest church in your area. Ask the pastor there if anyone in the congregation has an apartment to rent at (your $ range) and could put up with your two cats. Sometimes you can find a place that someone did not have on the market for whatever reason by doing this. Or you could find out that someone is looking for a house sitter… or who knows what. If that pastor has no suggestions, go on to the second biggest church. A good church will help and they won’t care if you are of another faith or if you even have any religious beliefs. They will help because they KNOW what is happening to you could happen to anyone at any time. Please keep us posted on how you are doing.
Jessi* July 29, 2017 at 10:20 pm Could you look into long term house sitting as a way to buy some time while you look for jobs? So sorry this is happening!
Teach* July 30, 2017 at 10:43 am I’m really sorry this is happening! I know we aren’t in the same location, but if I could help, I would. I think if you can compartmentalize your hurt over what other people think or say and put that aside right now, it would be good. You need all your mental and physical energy for Super Problem Solving! What local networks can you shake down for living arrangements? Craigslist, social media, churches, friends of friends, etc? I know several retired couples with rental units that would not pop up on real estate listings because they fill them word of mouth. Now’s the time for word of mouth. As for the cats, start getting in touch with rescue groups – they may have ideas for temporary fosters. I would gladly take in adult, well-behaved cats for a month or two while someone relocated or figured out new housing. You may not find these groups through an animal shelter – look on Facebook or search specifically for “rescue.” In short, screw what people think right now. You have built a great family, a great life, and have shown a lot of consideration for the feelings of difficult people. Totally ok right now to focus on you. Also totally ok to have a “not the best” situation for awhile until you get better solutions. Hugs if you want them.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 12:35 pm Damn. :( I hope everything works out. But who the BLOODY HELL are these people asking/telling you these things? They should be flogged immediately. >:( I volunteer to do that myself, along with some enthusiastic skate-kicking.
Harriet* July 30, 2017 at 1:40 pm I’m so sorry. My heart is breaking for you. For what it’s worth, an awesome life with husband and cats is my dream for a family unit. I’m sorry you’re surrounded by people telling you otherwise.
Hellanon* July 30, 2017 at 2:29 pm *hugs* Also, you need new people. None of that advice is remotely helpful or even kind.
Bryce* July 30, 2017 at 2:59 pm I have to ask, are these actually things people around you say or is it your own anxieties and doubt echoing back at you? Because if your friends say that instead of giving sympathy you deserve new friends, and if it’s your own echoes (I know those voices well) then keeping it bottled and alone won’t make them go away.
Diarist of a few very bad years* July 29, 2017 at 1:25 pm How do you get your brain to stop being “on” all the time? The last couple of years have been really shitty, with many factors out of my control (deaths, ended friendships, money, omigod I HAVE to find a job or I’m homeless!) that nevertheless exerted a disproportionate amount of control over my life and hit one after the other in rapid succession. I *finally* feel like I’ve hit a more secure place in my life, where the material stuff at least is no longer an issue. But I still find myself freaking out over little things. A year ago a missed detail here and there may not have been literally world-ending, but it would’ve come damn close. How do I convince myself to switch “off” and stop flipping out?
Obi-wan's wife* July 29, 2017 at 1:47 pm In time it will stop on its own. When life pushes you to the limit freak outs are normal. For example, years ago we were so poor I had to justify even purchasing food for our family. That has changed, thank goodness, but I still get nauseated buying a full basket of groceries. It’s body memory that kind of reminds you it was tough once but you made it through.
rj* July 29, 2017 at 1:50 pm I have found doing yoga to be really helpful for figuring out how to invest in things, and what friendships/parts of job/etc to pay attention to. It helps me remember to breathe. I just follow yoga with adriene on youtube – she has short and also free things. Therapy is also helpful… my current job doesn’t have good enough insurance for me to go, and it is not bad insurance… so, not sure that will help.
Junior Dev* July 29, 2017 at 2:11 pm Exercise helps me a lot. Something so intense my brain can’t focus on anything else. Weight lifting, roller skating, running, dancing, or long distance hikes or bike rides.
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 3:53 pm Mindfulness-based stress reduction, through my EAP, helped shut my brain up. Also yoga.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 9:50 pm Minerals will help. You might try some magnesium at night before bed. A tired mind will run and run. A person who has been stressed for a long period of time can be low on vitamins and minerals as stress tends to burn those things right up. You could try a drink with electrolytes in it, too if you’d like. Load up on good foods and make sure you are keeping hydrated, these things if unchecked will stress out an already stressed body.
Windchime* July 30, 2017 at 3:37 pm For me, the racing mind is a sign that my anxiety is getting out of control. Medication has helped me a lot with that, but the combination of mindfulness and exercise also helps me a lot.
Cactus* July 29, 2017 at 1:43 pm I got the Vertical Sleeve 2 weeks ago and i’m so miserable. When does it get better? I crave everything I see on TV! Things I’ve never wanted to eat before. Ugh. Buyers remorse. :(
brushandfloss* July 29, 2017 at 7:10 pm You sorta grieve all the food you never got to eat ( I admit I wished I had a real Philly cheesesteak). But it will and does get better. Its tough now but once the weight starts coming off you realize it was worth it. You had this surgery for a reason and hardly anyone does this surgery without a lot of thought. Right now try on concentrate on healing and getting in all your protein & water. My quality of life has improved so much. Hope this helps.
Purple snowdrop* July 29, 2017 at 1:45 pm I’m at my parents’ house, there are far too many children and siblings here and only one person here knows that my marriage is effectively over. I have managed to find some quiet time but honestly I just want to hide under a table and cry. On the bright side I’ve got an initial appointment with a solicitor next week. And a massage booked a couple of hours later :-|
Clever Name* July 29, 2017 at 9:20 pm Dude. I’m in the same place. Get together with friends have kiddos (mine and theirs) around. Don’t want to talk about it in front of youngins… it’s hard.
INTP* July 29, 2017 at 1:52 pm Has anyone used something like Bumble BFF to find friends in a new city? Yay or nay? I moved about 6 months ago in the depth of a depression and I’ve finally started feeling energetic to explore my city and engage in my hobbies again. I would like to start building a social circle (slowly is fine, I’m not desperate, I would just like to have some friends in the long term), but I’m just starting to feel energetic enough to have some free time on top of trying to keep up with the work week and necessary chores, so I want to spend most of it doing things that I enjoy most rather than meeting strangers and I want to avoid too many structured time commitments. For those reasons, I don’t think meetups (which always seem to involve a train ride into the city) or volunteering (in any sort of steady committed capacity) are right for me right now. And the local yoga studio is $175 per month which I can’t swing right now. Anyways, I was thinking that maybe using an app like that to find women in my area to meet up with for a happy hour drink or something would be an ideal solution for me right now. A couple hours of time, low cost, and I’m more comfortable with one person than many. Any experiences or advice? I’m 30 if that matters.
Anonymousaur* July 29, 2017 at 9:28 pm I am around your age and have used it on and off over the past year or so. My personal experience is I end up matching with a bunch of people, get lunch or drinks with several over the course of a couple weeks, and end up with one or two I keep in touch with in the longer term. Then I tend to get overwhelmed by the app and take a pause for a couple months… then come back to it. I’ve met some great friends that way though
LDP* July 31, 2017 at 12:09 pm I know I’m late to the game on this one, but in case you check back, here’s my experience with Bumble BFF! I used it when I first moved to Texas almost a year ago, and it was…okay? In my area it seemed like it was mostly wives and mothers who were wanting others to go on double dates/play dates with them. Since I’m super single, that wasn’t really appealing to me. I met up with a few of them, but I haven’t formed any lasting friendships with any of those ladies. They were nice, but we were all in really different places in our lives, so it never became an instant BFF sort of thing. What I did do was join an organization that hosts about 2 events or so a month. It’s a political organization, so it was good to meet like-minded people who are about my age (mid-20’s), but it was a super low time commitment since there’s only a few events a month. That’s where I met all my friends in the area, and I’ve really had a great time with it! So, maybe that’s something else you could look into? (Doesn’t have to be a political group, I’m just a mega-politics nerd. Hopefully there’s a group of people who are interested in the same things you are in your new area!) Best of luck to you in making friends in your new city! I know how tough it can be, but as long as you take time to put yourself out there, I’m sure it’ll work out! :)
Red Reader* July 29, 2017 at 2:03 pm I have had my wedding dress hanging in my closet since August of last year. I finally tried it on for the first time last night. (Wedding is six weeks out.) It fits! Technically it’s about half a cup size too big in the bust, so I may see if I can have a seamstress put in some cups with light padding to fill that out – it’s strapless and fairly structured with embroidery on the bodice, so I don’t know that taking it in is really an option, I think it would be way more complicated than worthwhile. Down side: The shoes I bought don’t go with the dress at all, but I was mostly expecting that, and I like them anyway :)
Awkward Interviewee* July 29, 2017 at 3:55 pm I got married recently and had a strapless wedding dress that was a tad too big in the bust. Having the seamstress add cups was exactly what I did. It worked perfectly. Good luck with the close to the wedding craziness!
Anono-me* July 29, 2017 at 6:12 pm Might I suggest asking the seamstress to add some straps that can be hidden until any energetic dancing starts. Most well fitting strapless dresses stay up just fine, but the exception are real pains. Best wishes on the wedding.
Countdown to Halloween...* July 29, 2017 at 2:07 pm I’m in the mood to read something that’s not outright horror, but creepy, maybe other-worldly. Along the lines of Coraline, The Night Circus, Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children, and Asylum. Anyone have book recommendations to share? Similar vein but different topic, how many of you are familiar with the Five Nights at Freddy’s games? My friends and I play the games and love them but then we’re gamers and geeks who love that kind of thing. I’m curious to know how far reaching it is to the rest of the world.
katamia* July 29, 2017 at 2:20 pm House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski. Maybe Jeff VanderMeer’s Southern Reach trilogy too, although I only really liked the first book of that series. I’ve heard of Five Nights at Freddy’s but have never been able to buy any of them because I didn’t hear about them while I still had disposable income. :(
Jillociraptor* July 29, 2017 at 2:23 pm We Have Always Lived in the Castle by Shirley Jackson. Definitely creepy and other-worldly.
Be the Change* July 29, 2017 at 2:34 pm I enjoy Juliet Marillier’s work. Sevenwaters, the Bridei Chronicles, Blackthorn & Grim. Otherworldly and a tad creepy but not horrifying at all. Set in pre-Christian (or early Christian) Ireland.
Clever Name* July 30, 2017 at 1:23 pm Agreed! She’s one of my favorite authors. Her works are hauntingly beautiful.
ThatGirl* July 29, 2017 at 2:35 pm Not as creepy, but The Night Circus. Slightly creepy, The Ocean at the End of the Lane.
Red Reader* July 29, 2017 at 2:41 pm Seanan McGuire’s Wayward Children series– first book is Every Heart a Doorway, second is Down Among the Sticks and Bones. Third one is due out this winter.
Claire (Scotland)* July 29, 2017 at 3:35 pm Seconding this – EHAD is my favourite book of the past year or so.
Teach* July 29, 2017 at 4:36 pm Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman Lockwood series is excellent older audience YA. Sassy, ghost-hunting female protagonist. Just the right level of creepy.
TL -* July 31, 2017 at 12:07 am Lockwood is what I was going to recommend! I look myself in the bathroom every year and stay up all night finishing it but I never have nightmares. (I’m seriously sissy about horror movies. The sixth sense gave me nightmares for a week.)
Stellaaaaa* July 29, 2017 at 5:02 pm Here’s another rec for House of Leaves. I actually wrote my MA thesis on it! I have THOUGHTS about that book. Try Bloodroot by Amy Greene, perhaps the best book I’ve read as an adult. It’s a really inventive way of updating the concept of American folklore. The main character was rumored to be descended from witches and there’s nothing fantastical about the book but there’s still a whole creepy gauzy element to the story.
Loopy* July 29, 2017 at 6:13 pm Not sure if it’s other worldly exactly but it is on the dark/creepy side: The Savage Song and This Dark Duet by Victoria Schwab!
Saturnalia* July 29, 2017 at 8:02 pm The Book of Lost Things – john Connolly Any of Kelly Link’s short story collections. Stranger Things Happen was beautiful and weird. If you can branch into a graphic novel epic, The Sandman series by Neil Gaiman. He’s solid all around, but Sandman forever holds a special place in my heart as my introduction to his work. I’ve heard House of Leaves is amazing but haven’t yet read it. My partner has a bit of a book buying & collecting habit, which I love, but it does mean we have dozens of unread books in our library. (OK no lie, it’s one of the few childhood fantasies that has actually played out and I am *deeply* infatuated with our home library)
Librarian from Space* July 29, 2017 at 10:02 pm Ooh, I’ve got a good one that I just read! It’s called The Supernatural Enhancements by Edgar Cantero. It’s about a 20-something European guy who inherits a big ol’ creepy estate in Virginia from a distant cousin. The house is definitely haunted, but that’s just the beginning. It’s also got weird secret societies and strange dreams. It was really great. I’ve heard of Five Nights at Freddy’s from all my tween patrons at the library. They love it, but I don’t know much about it.
Serious Sam* July 30, 2017 at 10:05 am Charlie Stross’s Laundry series, beginning with The Atrocity Archive. There are some short taster stories on his blog.
Windchime* July 30, 2017 at 3:42 pm Oooooh, how about the trilogy by Justin Cronin? The first one is called “The Passage”. It’s about vampires, but not the sexy, teenage, shimmering kind. The horrifying, scary kind. It’s kind of post-apocolyptic and the combination of the good story, character development, and the excellent writing meant that I literally could not put my book down. I read all three of them (and they are long books) in the space of a few weeks.
katamia* July 29, 2017 at 2:26 pm Anyone know any good yogurt substitutes for cooking Indian food? I don’t mind the yogurt once it’s actually cooked in the food, but I can’t stand the sight or smell of yogurt on its own–it makes me gag. But I really want to be able to cook Indian food because it’s one of my favorite cuisines and I won’t be able to eat out much after I move. So…suggestions?
AvonLady Barksdale* July 29, 2017 at 3:37 pm There are plenty of Indian recipes that don’t require dairy at all. I make a lot of curries that are just tomato-based, and sometimes I use coconut milk. Is there something specific you want to make that you need the yogurt for?
katamia* July 29, 2017 at 3:45 pm Honestly, almost every recipe I look at requires yogurt. Tikka masala, korma, vindaloo, and a bunch of others I can’t remember off the top of my head. I bought a small Indian cookbook recently, and just about all of the sauces required yogurt, as do pretty much all of the recipes I’ve found online.
Tris Prior* July 29, 2017 at 5:54 pm I make chickpea masala with coconut milk and it’s amazing. You just have to make sure you use the full-fat kind.
Cookie D'oh* July 29, 2017 at 7:14 pm My mom cooks amazing Indian food, but it’s from memory and she never uses a recipe. However, she gave me a cookbook from author, Madhur Jeffrey. I admit it’s been a while since I’ve used the cookbook, but I think she has a variety of recipes. Also, South Indian dishes use more coconut and different flavors (less yogurt) than North Indian cooking.
katamia* July 29, 2017 at 3:53 pm Thanks! I’ll give that a shot. They look similar, but sour cream doesn’t gross me out at all the way yogurt does.
Chaordic One* July 29, 2017 at 8:16 pm Or milk that has a bit of lemon juice or vinegar added to it. It’s sort of like making your own sour cream.
Lily Evans* July 29, 2017 at 4:15 pm Does non-dairy yogurt bother you the same way? There’s a whole bunch of dairy free and vegan yogurt options that I’ve seen in the store that you could try as substitutes.
katamia* July 29, 2017 at 5:43 pm Huh, I’d never heard of non-dairy yogurt. I’ll look into it. Thanks!
Saturnalia* July 29, 2017 at 8:09 pm I’m not sure if you can get Kite Hill anywhere but whole foods, but in my humble vegan opinion it is the absolute best of the whole bunch :-) Otherwise, I’m also on the coconut milk team for most of my own Indian cooking. If you wanted the yogurt tang, you could always do the diy buttermilk thing by adding about a tablespoon of vinegar per cup of coconut milk (mix and let sit for 5 mins to coagulate – works with all dairy and nondairy milks!)
Bruce H.* July 29, 2017 at 9:38 pm Another possible substitute is kefir. I think it tastes a lot like yogurt, but it’s liquid, so it might not trigger your texture issues. I have no experience cooking with it, so I’m just suggesting the possibility. (Years ago when I took Russian, our instructor was telling us about Russian foods and started to explain how kefir is like yogurt but different, and was surprised when several of us in the class told her, “Yes, we have kefir here, too.”)
nep* July 29, 2017 at 2:47 pm For anyone using WordPress.org for a website — what are you using for security? From what I read, free plugins alone aren’t enough; I think I’ve got to get something like Sucuri firewall to complement. Advice? What’s worked for you?
Anonymous Educator* July 29, 2017 at 3:15 pm Keeping up with updates. WordPress vulnerabilities are discovered and patched all the time. The key is to actually apply the patches. Many web hosts will actually automatically update WordPress to make sure users don’t fall behind on updates and thus expose their server instances to hacking.
Anonymous Educator* July 29, 2017 at 3:16 pm Not really sure how a firewall would help. Are you actually hosting your own in-house web server instead of hosting WordPress on a paid-for host?
nep* July 29, 2017 at 4:14 pm Yes — self-hosting. WordPress.org as opposed to .com. So a level of the security up to me. I’ve read that Sucuri has worked well for some people with this setup.
Anonymous Educator* July 29, 2017 at 8:36 pm No, but by self-hosting, I mean on your actual physical server in your own home as opposed to on somebody else’s server. It’s only WordPress.com if WordPress itself is the host. If you host anywhere else, it’s WordPress.org, whether that’s someone else’s server or your own server room. If you host in your own physical space, there’s a lot more security you need to worry about than just the WordPress part of it.
nep* July 29, 2017 at 10:39 pm Oh I see what you meant. OK. I was using the term the way I see it used to distinguish WP.org from .com. Thanks
ujvbhjjjikgbuihikokl* July 29, 2017 at 3:24 pm Do you guys keep in touch with your good/best friends from elementary/middle/high school and/or college/university? How many from each? Which do you feel closer to, School friends or College/University friends? How often do you see them? Do you have any friendship traditions weekly/monthly/yearly to stay in touch?
What's in a name* July 29, 2017 at 3:51 pm Not I but my husband has friends that go back to kindergarten. They have a yearly poker game. There is one guy who retired to Florida who flies up to Virginia for it.
Ramona Flowers* July 29, 2017 at 3:56 pm Only university. Two I see regularly, about seven or eight on Facebook.
Kathenus* July 29, 2017 at 4:23 pm I met my best friend in late eighth grade. She’s the the only childhood or school-related friend I’m still in touch with. A couple of others have fallen away the past few years mostly due to moves on both our parts and not having correct addresses for holiday cards so losing touch. No traditions I can help with. I’m not on social media and she doesn’t email much, so it’s just the occasional text or phone call between visits. We can go many months without any contact, sometimes even closer to a year, but when we do talk or see each other it’s as if we were never apart. We just click. We see each other randomly, she lives where a couple of my family members do so whenever I’m there visiting. Might be a couple of times one year, a couple of years between the next.
all aboard the anon train* July 29, 2017 at 4:46 pm I keep in touch with friends from college, but I’ve lost touch with all my pre-college friends. I had some good times with my elementary/middle school/high school friends, but when I look back, we were all so different and it was more of being friends just so you weren’t alone. We all went on such different paths and I don’t think we’d still be friends now even if we had kept in touch. My college friends and I have different traditions. There’s a few of us who’ll plan a weekend vacation where we rent a house on the Cape or Newport each summer. There’s one who I have monthly sushi and mani/pedi dates with. Some us have a yearly Harry Potter movie marathon (coming up soon!). Another couple friends and I will get together biweekly, depending on schedules, to get dinner and see a new movie. It’s definitely not daily or weekly the way I used to think it would be based on TV and movies, especially since we’re all busy with different things in our lives. Some of my friends have kids and marriages, so they have less time, which is why we try to do a monthly or bi-monthly meetup just so we make sure we stay in touch. For others, we have traditions, but we also just meet up whenever we feel like hanging out. I’m lucky in that my friends are like me and like alone time, so it’s not like all of us need to be in contact with each other 24/7.
Stellaaaaa* July 29, 2017 at 4:54 pm I have one very good friend from college. I met many of my closest friends during my college years, though I didn’t meet them at school. High school is a different story and a very long one. I don’t have any close friends left from those years but whenever I run into former classmates we’re perfectly happy to chat.
Stellaaaaa* July 29, 2017 at 4:59 pm I’ll add that my university has an annual alumni beer tasting every January and a wine tasting every March, and I have a group of buds that I only see at those events. I don’t think I’d miss any of them if they stopped showing up to the tastings but I very much enjoy those events and seeing those people, even if I never think to reach out to them otherwise.
Purple snowdrop* July 29, 2017 at 5:43 pm I have one friend who I met at school when I was 16 and just about to leave. Other than that, I have a couple of friends I met while I was at uni, but the vast majority of my friends I’ve met pretty recently and that’s just fine with me. For a counterpoint, my sibling always meets up with all her old school friends when she’s in the country and keeps in touch with them all. I quite like some of her old friends, but I wouldn’t want to see mine. Weird, I know.
Bigglesworth* July 29, 2017 at 8:24 pm I have one friend that I’ve known since 1st grade. She was super popular and I…was not. However, my birthday is exactly one day before hers. We met in our lunchroom and talked about how cool it was that our birthdays were so close together. Well, come to find out, my mom and her dad are born one day apart and my dad and her mom are born one day apart. Her husband’s first and middle name are the same as my dad’s first and middle same. Plus, we got married in the same year and our husbands have become good friends. All that to say, we have a lot of history. We would usually meet up every 2-3 months, if not more, just to have dinner, talk, and play video games. I do try to keep in contact with my college friends, but it’s been hard since my closest friends are scattered around the world (think S. Korea, Mongolia, Hawaii, Italy, Ecuador, and Alaska while I stayed in the the South-Central part of the US). We meet when we can, usually when they were visiting family in our home state once a year (and maybe not even then). Now that I’ve moved to a major city on the East Coast, I’m not sure when I’ll see them again.
Chocolate Teapot* July 30, 2017 at 6:51 am Somebody who was in the year above me at school lived just around the corner, so we still keep in touch. Another good friend who was in my year passed away unexpectedly, but we often used to email. My university friends barely acknowledge me any more. Not beause of any specific falling out, but because our lives have taken different paths, and it often felt as if I was making all the effort and they couldn’t be bothered to respond. I exchange Christmas greetings with one friend, and if something major had happened to one of the others, I would hope she would tell me.
LizB* July 30, 2017 at 1:33 pm I’m only four years out of college, and I’m still connected to quite a few of my friends from there, especially the ones who still live near me. I only have one good friend left from my high school days who I still talk to regularly (the rest of them stayed close to my ex in the aftermath of our breakup and throughout college, so we’re superficially friendly but not much more than that). It’s funny, I’m not in super good touch with the three people I was best friends with in elementary school, but based on all of our social media I think we would get along super well now as adults and I miss them a lot. Unfortunately we all live in different states, but it amuses me that the girls I was closest to from ages 5-10 are now women I admire and would love to reconnect with at 26. I had good instincts as a kiddo!
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 2:02 pm Hmm, I only have two friends from high school I stay in touch with; one is still in our hometown and the other is here but we never see each other. We’re mostly Facebook friends now. College friends and I had a mini-reunion last summer, in the town where we went to school. It was good to see them. We’re also on Facebook. Distance is such a factor and one of them has moved to an eastern state now, so I don’t know when we’ll get together again. I’m not really close to anybody right now and I can’t say I have a bff anymore because everybody is so busy with family. :\
Epsilon Delta* July 30, 2017 at 2:54 pm My best friends now are the ones I had in high school – four of us. We all live near-ish to where we grew up and get together a few times a year. I have two very good friends from college that I see occasionally. They live in other states now. No friends from elementary school, but that was a religious school and I no longer belong to the religion whilst most of my classmates very actively do.
Bryce* July 30, 2017 at 3:09 pm As far as my old high school clan goes one of them still sends me a Christmas card every year (three adorable daughters and a good physician career) and the rest of us like each other’s Facebook posts occasionally. For college a lot of us still live in the same town. There’s occasional get-togethers but one of the main social organizers moved a few hours away, and everyone has their own jobs now with who-knows-what schedules so mostly we just keep in touch online or “I’m gonna go check out the new OMSI exhibit this afternoon, anyone free to join me” acknowledging that the answer is likely no. Oddly, I keep most in touch with my brother’s old college friends. We were in the same WoW guild back then and now we hang out on Skype and get together for gaming a couple of hours a week.
Anonymous vent* July 29, 2017 at 3:31 pm (Semi-regular commentator going anonymous for this) My husband and I moved to Canada from the United States after we got married, for that thing we don’t mention on weekends for him. We come from the same hometown and our families live only a few hours away over the border. We made a plan to stay here long term because we live in a great community, his thing we do not mention on weekends is stable and I am able to do mine from anywhere in the world, and we wanted our kids to grow up and have roots and not be moving around when they are young and in school. This fall our oldest will be starting school. Here the schools have junior kindergarten, senior kindergarten and then they start grade one. Going to kindergarten is not mandatory, only grade one is. Elementary schools go from junior kindergarten to grade eight and high schools go from grade nine to grade 12. Here in Canada where we are, the schools don’t have cutoff dates, they have cutoff years. So children born in 2013 can start school this year. Our oldest was born in December, which means he would be three when he started junior kindergarten. I feel like this is too young, and when we found out they only do cutoff years here we planned to hold him back a year, so he could start junior kindergarten next year when he is four. But the schools won’t do that. If we start him next year they will put him in senior kindergarten with the other kids born in the same year as him. There are no exceptions. The school board refuses to budge and most people we talked to had never heard of any parent trying to do this. They don’t hold kids back for any reasons. They said if our son was special needs (which he is not) he is still placed with kids in his birth year and given an individual plan, or if he can’t be in a regular classroom the point becomes moot, which it is anyways because he is not special needs. My husband and I talked to some lawyers who said what we want is not a thing and it can’t be done. Even private schools or alternative learning places all do the same thing. I am so stressed because I don’t want my son to always be the youngest and smallest in his class. I am so upset that there is nothing we can do. We can’t move back home right now, it is not an option. But I feel so stuck and stressed because this is not what I wanted or was planning on at all.
What's in a name* July 29, 2017 at 3:59 pm This is so short sighted. There are many kids who do not have special needs but need more time. If they just used the year before it would probably be better for almost all the kids. So instead of Sept 2011-Aug 2012 (US) or 2012 (Canada) they should use 2011. With the emphasis on so much more learning in those first years that has occurred over the last 30 years more and more children need more time to mature. At the school my kids went to (US private) they encouraged parents with children who turned 5 after March to hold their children out.
Christy* July 29, 2017 at 4:32 pm I’m sorry you’re stressing about this. But there’s always a cutoff. There’s always a youngest kid. If you were in the US and your kid was born in August then they’d still be the youngest. The good news is that you’re clearly invested in your kid’s success, and that’s the #1 most important thing your kid needs. Seriously. Like I said, I’m sorry you’re stressing about this.
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 7:53 pm Yeah, I agree with this, and I think that’s why they’re so firm. I was one of the youngest and smallest in my class and it was fine, and there’s no indication that your son, OP, is struggling particularly. The one area where it’s likelier to matter than the classroom is the gym, field, rink, wherever you practice your sports; growth can matter there in little kids. But if the hockey parents haven’t gotten the system to budge for the December born, I don’t think anybody else will.
Book Lover* July 30, 2017 at 2:40 pm The thing is, there always has to be a cutoff. The way it tends to work in the US is that people with higher SES can afford to pay an extra year of childcare or private preK and people with fewer resources can’t. So it ends up being kids who have other challenges who end up being the youngest in the class. I think it is great that Canada doesn’t allow that. I was told to hold my son back – early diagnosis of ADHD, August birthday. I did as I was told, which meant that he was a year behind kids he had been in preK with and always had to correct people when they made assumptions about what grade he was in. Last year he skipped a grade, is now the youngest in his grade (the grade he should always have been in) and is much happier.
Anna* July 29, 2017 at 10:32 pm Quick clarification- in the US if your child is born in the summer, you can decide to wait for them to start school. Anonymous vent – I’m very empathetic to your situation. I just gave birth and we know already that she will be “held back” and will start school as one of the oldest instead of one of the youngest. I, too, would have just assumed that it was the same in Canada. At the same time, I completely with Christy’s statement regarding your investment in your kid’s success being the out important thing.
Al Lo* July 29, 2017 at 10:49 pm Also, each province and even each school district has different cutoff dates and policies, so Anonymous vent’s situation isn’t the same across the entire country. Junior and Senior Kindergarten also aren’t a thing everywhere — I’m assuming this is Ontario, from the grade breakdown (in BC, high school/secondary school starts in grade 8; in Alberta, high school starts in grade 10). In my area, one school district had a Dec 31 cutoff, and a neighbouring one had a Feb 28 cutoff (which makes for some super young kids in the grade), but the option is there to start later. My cousin and brother are 10 days apart — Dec 20 and Dec 10, respectively — but were a grade apart in school, with no one held back, because they were just ready at different times.
Stellaaaaa* July 29, 2017 at 4:44 pm That’s so strange. I’m recalling some odd instances from my childhood. I remember being tested before elementary school (I was going to school in a different district than where I lived) and they had wanted to skip me ahead three grades. That always stuck with me, that I’m way super smart (whatever) but when I was 16 I was glad I was learning chemical equations at that age and not at 13. I really don’t think I would have had a head for it. Same with the more theoretical math stuff and even literature. An extra year of brain development makes a huge difference when you’re little. This is a long way of saying that I’m an arrogant ass about my intellect sometimes, and even I’m glad my parents held me back a little. You’re right to be concerned that this one year could be the difference between him struggling and excelling. Is the Canadian school system different somehow? Is there less pressure on kids to excel at everything?
Sylvia* July 29, 2017 at 10:45 pm Three grades! I wonder what growing up like that would have been like. I had a classmate in elementary school who skipped two grades and seemed fine, but I would like to hear what he would have to say about it. I agree with what you’ve said here. A year of brain development, and emotional and social development, is massive.
Maya Elena* July 29, 2017 at 5:16 pm Bear in mind that the gap between a 2 year old and 3 year old is bigger than between 3 and 4, 4 and 5, etc. So it might make to miss a year or two altogether, while working on basic skills at home, and start in the regular year in Senior K or even Grade 1, when being younger won’t be as big a deal. And while it would be nice for the school to make the accommodation, it may be wise not to push it too hard, as the optics aren’t great – trying to use lawyers to get your child special treatment that he doesn’t really need…. Anyway, the January girls will still have everyone beat in terms of behavior and obedience, so victory will only have so much effectiveness.
CanadianUniversityReader* July 29, 2017 at 6:36 pm If it helps, my parents were in the same boat with my younger sister. My sister’s birthday was at the end of December. She was the smallest and the youngest and she survived. It took her a little while to settle in, she was really shy for the first few months and then once she turned four, everything changed. She stopped being so shy, I think it helped that she knew some of the kids in her class.
Julianne* July 29, 2017 at 9:08 pm I feel for you from the other side – I’m a teacher, so in that sense I do get how it can be hard for children who are on the young end of the cut-off and their families. Unfortunately, I don’t see a great way to remediate it broadly on our end; we always have to have a cut-off date, and I get that it’s hard when it impacts your family…but ultimately, it’s always going to impact someone’s family, and I don’t see a great way to mitigate that on a large scale. The best advice I can give is to be a support for your child at home and to stay active in the school to the extent possible for your family. Ask what you can do to support your child’s learning at home (in early childhood, as I’m sure you know, the greatest gains come from oral language and early literacy experiences), go to the library, raise concerns with the relevant service providers (teachers, your pediatrician, etc,) as/if they come up with respect to development issues. I teach middle and upper elementary (3rd-6th grades), and I do see age-related differences among students, but home support and parental involvement make huge differences, too, so please don’t discount your own value in your child’s education! Ask what you can do, ask what school-based staff are doing and what else they can do to support your child, and please believe me when I say that we do want to do everything we can for your child (or any child who needs more support).
Observer* July 29, 2017 at 10:46 pm He may always be the youngest in his class, but that doesn’t mean he will always be the smallest. So, that’s one thing to think about. I’d just keep him home this year, and consider whether to send him to “senior” kindergarten next year. A lot depends on the schools and what they do. In general, being the youngest kid in the class is not such a big deal. There a lot of factors that go into how well a child does in school, and this really is not the biggest issue by a long shot.
Felicia* July 30, 2017 at 12:15 pm I’m born and raised in Ontario where all of this seems normal/expected to me (and didn’t realize kids got held back a year before starting school some places until I started reading American blogs). But the older kids are the less the difference seems to matter, and there always has to be a cutoff. My youngest sister actually didn’t go to junior kindergarten and started senior kindergarten for other reasons but maybe that’s an option for you? He’d still be the youngest but starting school at 4 instead of 3. It’s actually pretty common, especially for people with later birthdays, to do what we called grade 12 plus, or an extra year of high school, but at that point you couldn’t really tell the difference between the people who graduated high school at 17 and people who graduated at 17. The guy with the highest GPA in my graduating class was among the youngest, born December 21, and he was also taller/larger than most other guys and captain of the rugby team. He might not always be the smallest, and maybe starting school in senior kindergarten might be a good choice for him! It’s a relatively common thing to do and I’m sure both years of kindergarten were the same.
Jules the First* July 30, 2017 at 1:19 pm I was always the youngest and smallest in my classes because I got skipped two grades and honestly the only time it was ever a problem was fourth grade camp when the parent volunteer supervisor decided I was too small to do one of the activities and made me go and play the animal game *again* (hey teachers…stop making kids play the animal game every single stupid year!!!!). My classmates were awesome and never made me feel left out (they even smuggled me into PG13 movies and got an extra thrill out of breaking the rules). I promise that this will not change your son’s school experience – and in the unlikely event that it does, that’s when you go back to the school in Momma Bear mode and make them come up with an accommodation.
Crafty* July 29, 2017 at 3:58 pm You know how you’ll wake up and find out from either Facebook/social media or a blog/magazine that it’s National So-And-So Day or it’s the 30th Anniversary of X being released or On This Day Something Huge Happened….is there a website or calendar out there that houses all of these factoids in one place? I looked around for calendars but there’s way to little info on them…the wikipedia one doesn’t even have today’s (Lipstick Day!) I’ve been practicing calligraphy/illustration and I would love to have a few days notice–I practice calligraphy at night only so if I find out in the morning it’s National Lipstick Day, I can’t work on anything until 8pm, which means it’s too late to have impact/be relevant.
Dating* July 29, 2017 at 4:08 pm When you’re dating via apps or online, how long do you wait before asking if someone wants to meet up? Do you usually ask immediately or have a convo first?
katamia* July 29, 2017 at 4:13 pm Conversation first. I know it’s against The Rules, which say that you should meet up right away, but I can’t imagine just meeting up with someone after just reading their profile and exchanging nothing beyond “Hey, how are you?” But then I wouldn’t exactly call my online dating experiences successes, either, so maybe conversation first really isn’t the way to go, lol.
Stellaaaaa* July 29, 2017 at 4:36 pm Have a bit of a chat but try to move it offline as soon as possible. There are a whole lot of people on the apps who have no interest in dating – they just want to chat and/or deliberately screw things up to justify their decision to not date. If you go into things thinking that it’s the norm to have really long conversations before meeting, you’re going to waste a lot of time on people who will never want to meet in person.
PX* July 30, 2017 at 8:11 am I’m a bit of an anomaly in this I think but I usually tend to ask quite quickly. There have been times I’ve spent weeks messaging then when you meet in person there is just no click at all, so for me I’d much rather get it out of the way. Having said all that, I find I can usually tell almost immediately from a profile if I’m going to get along with someone, and also whether they will be okay with meeting up immediately or if they’ll be weirded out by it. So basically it all depends, but I’m very much on Team ‘Do what feels best for you!’
NaoNao* July 30, 2017 at 1:16 pm When I was doing online dating, I experimented with asking outright, like in my first message. I’m a straight woman seeking straight men and it did…not go well. The two or three guys I asked in my first message acted like I sent them a double entendre laced caption on a nude picture and were like “sure, sugarlips! Your backseat or mine!” Ugh. I generally tried to get a couple major deal breakers out of the way early on if possible (kids, smoking, religion) and then suggested a coffee date if things went smoothly during the chat. I do recommend getting together very early on—no more than 10 messages back and forth at most. Too easy to say/read something the wrong way, to feel like something’s a deal breaker, to build up expectations, etc.
Felicia* July 30, 2017 at 10:04 pm I personally ask within the first 3-5 messages but that’s just my preference! For me if I wait longer I just become to invested in something that might not make it past 1 date. I like to get the awkward 1st date part out of the way as soon as possible
Jessen* July 29, 2017 at 4:17 pm I finally bought my first car! I’m 29, so it’s been a long time coming.
Saturnalia* July 29, 2017 at 8:12 pm Congratulations!! I hope there is a scenic road near you so you can celebrate in style :-)
Jessen* July 29, 2017 at 9:34 pm I think I’d be terrified, honestly! I’m still so very nervous I’m going to crash it.
Amadeo* July 29, 2017 at 10:10 pm Was that age when I was finally able to buy my first *new* car without help. I had a little used Ranger my parents helped me get when I was 18 that I drove for 11 years because I just couldn’t afford to replace it for that long. Find a nice road you know well and like to drive and go celebrate!
Accidental Analyst* July 29, 2017 at 4:25 pm I know that there’s a section of the commentariat that has food/intestional issues. I’m hoping I can tap into that knowledge. For years I’ve had IBS and food intolerances most likely brought on by an infection and work stress. I’ve managed to keep it fairly under control by being careful with lactose and everything in the allium (onion/garlic) family. Recently I was hospitalised with acute stomach pain. It turns out I have terminal ileitis – inflammation of part of the small bowel. At this stage they’re not sure if it’s due to an infection or if it’s more long term (eg could be Crohns). I’ll have a better idea after another test that still needs to be scheduled. I’d appreciate hearing from anyone in a similar situation. Especially about what impact it’s had on your life and health. Thanks
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 7:36 pm Ouch, I’m sorry. I have Crohn’s, and I know there are others around here. Mine is actually pretty low-impact; it’s pretty easy to keep in check with just oral meds. It does make me inclined toward secondary IBS, which has taken awhile to learn to manage, but even that I finally got the hang of, mostly with a ton of homemade yogurt and a judicious approach to sugar and caffeine. I do wish it had been diagnosed and managed appropriately when I first presented, rather than, oh, thirty years later, but I didn’t suffer much lasting damage from the undertreatment. The mental/gut wiring around travel is probably the most annoying legacy, but I have ways to deal with that. I think it’s getting detected so much earlier these days that the average experience with the disease is less intense than it used to be.
Accidental Analyst* July 29, 2017 at 9:56 pm I’m so glad that you haven’t had much lasting damage and that it’s pretty low impact. Looking at a potential positive for how long you went undiagnosed; your insights into the symptoms etc would help you to get people to be proactive about getting their symptoms properly checked. Generally I can handle the IBS symptoms pretty well. I’m concerned though that I may need to reduce/eliminate more foods. Predominantly vegetarian with no/reduced lactose/onion/garlic is already limiting. Hopefully I don’t have to look at going low fibre.
AnonThisTime* July 30, 2017 at 9:57 am Have you tried doing the low FODMAPS diet as an elimination plan and then adding items back in to test? (Sounds like you might have with the onion/garlic.) It’s worked wonders for my IBS–turned out I had gluten issues that I hadn’t figured out–but I don’t know how it might relate to Crohn’s. I cheat on some of it when I’m at restaurants because the onion/garlic part is nearly impossible, and I handle the lactose part with lactase enzyme pills (e.g., Lactaid) because that works well enough for me.
Accidental Analyst* July 30, 2017 at 4:46 pm When I first started showing symptoms of IBS my doctor recommended trying a low FODMAP. Following it pretty much relieved all my symptoms. Side effects were that food was pretty boring/restrictive and if I ate something I shouldn’t I got sicker than I had been prior to the diet. Turns out I had missed the point of the diet. It wasn’t permanent deprivation, instead if was to reintroduce and challenge the different food groups. I’ve got to push myself to try again (just need to get over the preemptive feelings of deprivation). Onion/garlic (my worst trigger) is in so many things that I purposely keep a small amount in my diet. It may mean I feel a bit unwell on a regular basis but it’s better than the major unwell when I’ve been clean and accidentally had some. Lactose also crops up in weird and wonderful places like salt and vinegar chips. My symptoms aren’t as debilitating so I will cheat on this more often. I’m concerned if it does turn out to be Crohn’s that I won’t be able to cheat anymore.
Chaordic One* July 29, 2017 at 11:15 pm I have food allergies (soy, tomatoes and dairy) which isn’t usually as serious as your problems. (Well, I have gone into anaphylactic shock on several occasions, which was not fun. My face swelled up, my throat started to swell shut and I was rushed to the emergency room and given epinephrine.) The worst was that everyone thought because I had IBS, that I just didn’t handle stress very well and that I needed counseling for that. The truth was that I really had other problems (like food allergies causing my IBS). I remember having a tough day at work and having a quick and easy supper of lasagna or pizza for supper, followed by stomach cramps, bloating and diarrhea. Those were two of the worst things I could have possibly eaten and I didn’t figure it out at the time. There was also a period where it seemed like everything I ate made me sick and so I just stopped eating. I lost weight and then people thought I had anorexia. My day to day life hasn’t changed very much now that I know what to avoid and that I’ve found substitutes. I read food ingredient labels diligently to avoid my allergens. It seems like most packaged foods have some kind of soy in them and that’s a problem for me. I tolerate goat cheese very well and there are now a lot of lactose-free dairy products. Finally, those Lactaid enzyme pills help a lot, but not all the time. I also really like the Earth Balance line of products, especially their soy-free and dairy-free margarines. OTOH, I no longer eat out very often and traveling is a bit of a problem, but I make light meals and snacks ahead of time (like a sandwich for lunch) and bring them with me. On vacations I book rooms with kitchenettes so I can prepare some meals for myself and avoid restaurants. When I have to eat out I now have a good idea of what is safe to order and what isn’t. (Sometimes there isn’t very much on the menu for me.) The situation has forced me to be more thoughtful about what I eat and I’ve become a much better cook as a result. Thankfully, I also don’t have nearly as many bouts with cramps and diarrhea. I’d like to say that I’m 100% percent better, but the reality is that, even trying to control everything, I’m probably only 70 to 80% better, which is still a very worthwhile improvement.
Accidental Analyst* July 30, 2017 at 12:05 am I’m going to say if you’ve had anaphylactic shock your allergies are more extreme then my situation. It’s great that you’ve got such a handle on your triggers. There’s a lot more research looking at the interaction between the gut and the brain. We can only hope that it will reduce the rate that real issues are written off as stress (not denying stress is real just that it’s used as a catch all for thing it shouldn’t) Lactaze tablets are a bit hit and miss but luckily there’s more lactose free dairy products on the market (liddels and barambah for any interested Aussies). I am going to have to get more into cooking. This might be a bit hard as I don’t cook as a rule (holdover from my teenage rebellion). Time to act more like an adult than an ostrich.
fposte* July 30, 2017 at 10:31 am If you’re a more patient person, you can still get the Lactaid drops on Amazon (they’re sold in Canada); those are great to treat dairy at home, and they’ll work better than the tablets.
Accidental Analyst* July 30, 2017 at 4:57 pm I’ve never used the drops as they weren’t available in my country when I first became lactose intolerant. Just checked and a different brand has become available. In comparison to commercial lactose free milk how sweet is home converted milk?
Jules the First* July 30, 2017 at 1:48 pm Hi! Microscopic colitis, celiac and non-specific chronic ileitis here! Mine is entirely managed by diet, with a top-up of steroids if I have to be on antibiotics for any reason (though I’m super proud to have navigated this spring’s gnarly eye infection and double antibiotics without the steroids). I hasten to add that I have nothing against steroids in principle but they make me a nasty miserable fat slob who’s really no fun to be or be around, so my doctors and I work really hard to avoid them. We tried an immunosuppressant and it was just as ugly, though in different ways, so we’re treating pharmaceuticals as a last resort for me. YMMV… By diet managed, I mean that I avoid gluten, corn, soy, grains apart from rice and quinoa, and dairy (sob). I have to keep a lid on my fruit and sugar intake (no more than 1/2 cup of fruit, no more that 1Tbspn of added sugar per day) but all things vegetable, legume,meat, egg, and fish are on the table. It means that I don’t eat out often (though in the 17 years I’ve been doing this, I’ve only twice ended up in a restaurant that wouldn’t feed me) and I’m very aware of what I eat and when, but on the other hand, I’m in excellent health physically and mentally – who knew that reframing my diet and rebuilding my microbiome would do away with my anxiety almost entirely? I was diagnosed 17 years ago, which is when we cut out gluten, corn, and soy. We further overhauled my diet in 2014 (almost exactly three years ago, as it happens) with the dairy and fruit rules (and some other stuff which I won’t go into unless you’re interested) with the goal of rebuilding my microbiome and avoiding pharmaceuticals. While it wasn’t fun making the transition, I’ve not been hospitalised for gut issues since 2014 and I’ve only had a handful of days where I was not in good shape, which used to happen a couple of times a month. It feels like a mountainous change when you’re at the beginning, but you really do get used to dealing with it. I still miss cheese and bagels, but I don’t miss how I feel when I eat them, which really helps. Life is so much better when sobbing and whimpering on the bathroom tiles is not a regular part of your week! If you do have questions, ask away!
Accidental Analyst* July 30, 2017 at 5:07 pm It’s been Russian roulette with my symptoms. They range from very minor to debilitating and the onset varies from immediate to two days. I suspect I might find it easier to keep on track if whimpering on the bathroom floor happened more frequently and immediately. Thanks for your insight. I’m really interested in what you did with respect to your microbiome. I’ve dabbled with including more fermented foods but haven’t had a clear idea of what I should be doing/aiming for.
Jules the First* July 30, 2017 at 7:20 pm Ooooh…how much dairy are you eating? That’s why we eventually surrendered and took dairy out of my diet completely…it was so hard to pin down something that I was eating that tallied with my symptoms but because I was eating dairy two or three times a day, every day, the symptoms ranged from irritating to debilitating. The microbiome is a diet out of Australia that had some good results managing inflammatory bowel disease in early studies. We basically tried it as a Hail Mary because I was using steroids so often that it was becoming an issue for my day to day functioning. The study compared the bacteria species in healthy guts with the bacterial population in people with bowel disease and found that healthy folks had significantly fewer bacteria which fed on sugar and more bacteria that feed on fibre or protein, so you start by doing two weeks with no added sugar, no fruit, no alcohol, low carb, and no dairy, so you basically eat vegetables and protein for two weeks, which is supposed to kill off the bacteria that eat sugar. Once the initial two weeks is over, you do another two weeks without added sugar, but you add back in a quarter cup serving of berries or cooked fruit every other day, plus up to a half cup of cooked grains a day, and one quarter cup serving of fermented dairy a day (but still no bread or alcohol). After the initial four weeks, you can start broadening the diet to daily fruit, a little more carbs, and a little bit of alcohol a couple of times a week, as long as you continue to stay symptom-free. Killing off the sugar-munching bacteria turned out to be an important prerequisite for the fermented foods to have a real effect. The overall goal is to make your microbiome look more like a healthy one, with the idea that once your microbiome is “normal”, your intestines should be correspondingly “normal”. At the risk of TMI, from about six weeks into the diet, I was getting the quasi-mythical clean drop on a regular basis and not a so much as a whimper. If I hadn’t experienced it, I’d have been totally sceptical that something so simple could be so effective. The first two weeks were really hard, though – I felt like crap the whole time.
Accidental Analyst* July 30, 2017 at 10:36 pm I absolutely love dairy and have it (generally lactose free) daily. It actually took me awhile to figure it out due to how often I ate it and how varied the symptoms were. Looking through at the list of things to cut out at the start, they’re all really easy except for the dairy (and occasionally bread/bread like things). The sugar-fermentation like is really interesting. Will need to look into this more before the next grocery shop. Thanks for the info
FutureLibrarianNoMore* July 30, 2017 at 11:47 pm I have ulcerative colitis, so I guess I qualify! Overall impact on my life? Very little. I still have my colon, and am actually at the best place right now after ~10 years with the disease. I take Remicade (pretty much had to rule out every other drug before I got to it), and it has made life pretty easy. I’ve had the occasional accident, so I carry underwear, wipes, Clorox wipes, etc. I’m always prepared, even though it’s happened maybe once (?) in public. The worst part for me? Dealing with the discomfort issues that can strike anytime, anywhere, and lead to sudden diarrhea. :( But, it gets better once you find the right med combo, and know what foods to avoid. I know what foods will make me “sick” as I call it, and avoid them (or plan to be home shortly after eating them if I can!!). Health? Eh. Autoimmune diseases like to play together, and I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia a few years ago. I had a rheumatologist tell me they wouldn’t be surprised if I added another one in a few years, but…I’ve been fine so far! The best advice I can give is to stay far away from any health forum discussing the illness. It had me convinced I would be without a colon in no time, miserable. It’s too easy to fall prey to the negative mentality of many forums, so I suggest until you have a diagnosis, stay away.
Chaordic One* July 31, 2017 at 12:42 am This has been a surprisingly enlightening topic of discussion for me. I have always been worried that I would be called out for spending too much time in the rest room at work but, fortunately, that has never happened. Two comments that really stuck out to me were: 1. Life is so much better when sobbing and whimpering on the bathroom tiles is not a regular part of your week! 2. I’ve had the occasional accident, so I carry underwear, wipes, Clorox wipes, etc. I’m always prepared, even though it’s happened maybe once (?) in public. I guess I always knew I wasn’t the only person in the world who had these kinds of problems but I’m glad to have it confirmed. I almost feel like I’ve found my tribe!
Accidental Analyst* July 31, 2017 at 1:17 am UC definitely qualifies! Thanks for the info re the health forums. So far I’ve only really looked at non forum websites (exception here because I know people give thoughtful and considered advice). I’ve been lucky and haven’t had any issues in public, but I’m going to look at getting an emergency kit just in case.
Carmen Sandiego JD* July 29, 2017 at 4:26 pm Yesterday, SO and I went to my best friend’s milestone birthday. For a minute, I felt she was so lucky–2 adoring non-crazy parents and a husband and sibling partying with her. Then, I realized that she was spending the next year away from her husband because they got into 2 different medical programs. Plus, their school debt=they’re not trying for kids until years later. I guess it put stuff in perspective for SO and I. We finally saved enough for a down payment on a house (yay!!) after much scrimping, packing lunches, dinners in (we’re not telling anyone we know bc most have school debt). My coworkers offered their services as photographers and florists (their side-hustles lol) should we need them :) It’s taken a couple terrifying and hair-raising years and I feel like I can finally breathe a bit. I guess everyone has a bit of crazy in their lives somehow or other….. On 2 totally different notes: Has anyone gotten dust mite allergies that looked like mosquito bites? How did you alleviate them? And–my weird noms craving is pumpkin pureed mixed with greek yogurt, banana, cinnamon, pb and baked 30 min into mini healthy cookies. Does anyone else have odd yet satisfying healthy recipes?
NaoNao* July 30, 2017 at 1:46 pm I love fresh mozzarella cheese slices with fresh tomato and basil on a Wasa Cracker! My other go to is a pear-buttermilk-oat smoothie (with cinnamon and ginger). Zucchini and banana bread are both high on my fun to make and eat and healthy-ish list.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 2:09 pm Last night for dinner I had a fish taco with spinach and a cut-up tomato that I grew myself, on a wheat tortilla. Sometimes I add avocado. Mmm. I can’t stop eating this. :) It wasn’t as healthy as it could have been, because instead of sauteing a fish filet with taco seasoning, I just used two frozen battered fish filets I cooked in the toaster oven. But it was still pretty good.
Sibley* July 29, 2017 at 4:49 pm About $1800 to the plumber today…. lovely. Well, the fun stuff will have to wait a bit. New water heater, expansion tank, plus a bit of other stuff.
onnellinen* July 29, 2017 at 5:34 pm Looking for insight from those who have either gone to therapy, or lived with loved ones who have! My partner suffers from quite a bit of anxiety, and it is ramping up as we get closer to my due date (I’m 4 months pregnant). We both believe it stems from a not-so-great childhood – raised by grandparents, has not been in touch with one parent for many years, and has never known the identify of other parent. He has been taking anti-anxiety medication for a few years, and recently took the step to start therapy. This is huge – I am so relieved that he is working on resolving these issues. I could really use some help in understanding how I can be helpful and supportive during this period. He has only been to three sessions, and so far, they seem to be hard for him to manage, emotionally. Like, anxious for at least a day before, and often a bit on edge for a day or two after, while he processes what’s been discussed. I want to give him privacy and space to work through stuff, and logically I understand that these are hard, but I’m.. confused? frustrated? that things seem worse for the time being. Hoping for some kind of insight into what can be expected, and (hoping!) to hear that things will get better eventually. And, of course, any advice on how to avoid being frustrated, and be more supportive.
Saturnalia* July 29, 2017 at 8:27 pm I am the half who is attending therapy. It took a few sessions, but eventually when my partner asked “how was therapy today?” I was able to share some of the safer-feeling things I was figuring out. He was really supportive and positive about everything I shared, and didn’t ask too many follow up questions. However, I will also say that my early appointments left me feeling more relieved (to finally get help processing my internal mess) than on edge. When we dig deep nowadays, I will occasionally have that kind of response, so maybe he opened up on the painful childhood stuff more quickly than I did. Does he seem to feel positive about the experience in general? Like his therapist is a good match, helping in the ways he expected/wanted? I don’t have scripts for asking these questions, but I think it will definitely help if you find your own detached friendly calm before asking. Make it not a big deal either way. If he has any homework or reading, it can be cool to both do the work and share some of the results, so it’s more of a shared experience. Also, it’s totally OK for you to chat with a therapist too! You don’t have to hit a certain level of low point to benefit from an impartial outside listener. Pregnancy sounds pretty intense to me on its own!
No Name Yet* July 29, 2017 at 8:40 pm First, good for him for taking these healthy steps and good for you for supporting him. The hard part is that it absolutely gets worse before it gets better. That’s often especially true for anxiety, where people usually have spent a great deal of time and energy NOT thinking about what makes them anxious, only to start actively talking about it in therapy. When I went to therapy for (mostly) anxiety, I spent almost all of the first two sessions crying, because it was so hard to acknowledge what I had been avoiding and the repercussions of the avoidance. The good part is that it really will get better. And simce his difficulties are wrapped up with his childhood, it’s really good that he’s starting this now, before you deliver. As for how you can help – it’s worth asking him, see if he knows. Some people want to process what they’re talking about in therapy, some people want to talk about anything BUT that! He may want space, but if you don’t talk to him about it, he might see that as you not wanting to be around him. Tricky! So, ask. And if he doesn’t know, a generally safe bet is to be a supportive presence, and say you’re there to talk if he wants to. As for how to not feel too frustrated yourself – recognize that how he’s reacting is totally normal! Honestly, if he were feeling great this soon after being highly anxious for so long, I would be very skeptical that the treatment was doing much of anything. And also go easy on yourself, it’s hard to have a partner who is highly anxious, so it’s understandable that you feel frustrated. If there is someone you can talk to about how you’re feeling (without feeling like you’re gossiping about him), that can be really important. And being pregnant, with whatever physical or emotional aspects you’re dealing with, can make it that much harder. Tl;dr: totally normal, have compassion for both of you. (Said as a clinical psychologist who has also been in therapy twice, and talked to my wife about what her experiences were like.)
Myrin* July 30, 2017 at 3:34 am My younger sister has been in therapy (PTSD and debilitating anxiety) for more than a year now. Before that, she was at the hospital for three months, where she had very regular sessions and could get used to therapy – now it’s much more irregular (because the therapist is somehow on vacation like once a month) but it’s still helped a ton. For her, it’s very normal that she’s actually off much worse after each session but also on a bigger scope – she has horrible nightmares almost every night which didn’t use to happen before her hospital stay, but that’s very clearly because her mind suppressed all the memories of what was done to her and is now reeling with working on it and getting through the newly-surfaced memories. That she doesn’t feel good immediately after a session is for the same reason – she often unearthes unpleasant memories there which understandably takes a toll. As for how to be supportive – ask him! You can ask what he prefers generally – maybe he wants to talk about it whenever he comes home but doesn’t want to burden you – but also after every individual session. My sister is okay with my asking “How was it?” but usually her answer is just “Ugh, exhausting.” and that was it. Sometimes it’s “Ugh, I don’t wanna talk about it.” or “Ugh, bad.” and then we both accept that and move on.
Julia Gulia* July 29, 2017 at 5:47 pm How do you search for referrals or ask around for suggestions of service providers when the service is something people generally prefer to keep private? For example: laser hair removal, plastic surgery, bikini waxer.
Cookie D'oh* July 29, 2017 at 6:58 pm You could try searching for reviews of salons on Yelp or Google reviews. I think Angies List is free now, there may be reviews of places that offer those services.
Really* July 29, 2017 at 9:46 pm You could ask your doctor. I got my referral to my first electrolysis practitioner from my dermatologist office.
ann perkins* July 30, 2017 at 5:38 am First of all your name is amazing. Secondly, I agree with the Yelp suggestions. I also found my plastic surgeon via google.
nep* July 29, 2017 at 5:52 pm Roasted Brussels sprouts. Who’s with me? (I’m having some today for the first time in a couple years — want to try again and see whether they’ll cause bloating like such vegetables can for me.)
Free Meerkats (formerly Gene)* July 29, 2017 at 5:56 pm Toss them with some Dijon mustard and soy sauce before you roast them. Yummy!
nep* July 29, 2017 at 6:48 pm Yum. I generally use coconut oil when roasting; I tossed them w that, sea salt, and freshly ground pepper. I had to control myself and not eat all of it at a time — had just enough, and I’ll see whether any adverse effects (stomach). So far so good.
katamia* July 29, 2017 at 6:37 pm Love them. I usually do them with shallots, pancetta or prosciutto (can never remember which one), and lemon butter.
Dead Quote Olympics* July 29, 2017 at 8:01 pm Roast with garlic and salt and then toss with balsamic vinegar when done. Ina Garten has a simple recipe. Love them.
Jillociraptor* July 29, 2017 at 8:29 pm I love them. Salt and pepper, topped with shredded parmesan. Mmmmm.
Paul* July 29, 2017 at 11:17 pm only good way to cooke them. I gorged on bourbon, roasted brussle sprouts, cubed and roasted sweet taters and baked carrots this evening. Roasting them with parm, olive oil and se salt. Tat is good!
Mischa* July 29, 2017 at 11:33 pm Roasted brussels sprouts are, by far, my favorite food. If I’m feeling fancy I do bacon and apples with mine, but most of the time it’s just olive oil, salt, and pepper.
Free Meerkats (formerly Gene)* July 29, 2017 at 5:55 pm I have baby shrimps! No macro lens, so hard to get a good photo, they’re like a sixteenth of an inch long. Tiny replicas of their parents. I’ve counted at least a dozen, the other berried female hasn’t had her hatch yet. https://www.instagram.com/p/BXJWQXYhLHO/
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 10:02 pm Gosh, that is tiny. I take it the red dots are the babies? Are they looking at the camera or are they sideways?
Aphrodite* July 29, 2017 at 10:24 pm They are cute! Do you raise shrimp for pleasure? I’ve never met anyone before who did so.
Free Meerkats (formerly Gene)* July 30, 2017 at 11:44 am They are the blurry things in the foreground, heads down. We’re probably looking at their undersides, they’re eating bacterial growth from the tank side. When we bought this house, I thought, “That wall is perfect for a couple of fish tanks.” What I didn’t notice is it has no power. So I didn’t have fish for over 20 years, then I discovered Hawaiian Red Shrimp, Opae ula. They are the same shrimp you find in Ecoshperes; but raised this way, they can live 20 years instead of slowly getting poisoned in 2. So don’t buy Ecospheres. So I set up a small 3 gallon tank. They can live comfortably in a quart container, you never have to feed them or do water changes. For more info, http://petshrimp.com . That’s the only guaranteed source of captive raised Opae ula.
NaoNao* July 29, 2017 at 6:40 pm Minor relationship advice needed! I’m in a very happy relationship with someone I adore but (of course!) there’s something I’m trying to work out/get over. He has a few interests that just don’t align with mine—nothing offensive, just stuff I couldn’t care less about to the point of aggravating boredom when they come up. Occasionally something we talk about will spark a memory or idea, and he’ll go on YouTube and want to show me some interminable (like, 3 minutes that feels like an eternity) g-d video. No polite demurrals or hints that I’m not going to care will sway him. He can’t make the connection between similar videos—to him one video about Tesla Automobiles is *totally* different than another! Then of course he’s stung and saddened by my cool/indifferent reaction and I tell him I’ll work on it. I do get that one must “take one for the team” in a relationship, but it bugs me that I seem to be able to keep “my” stuff that he doesn’t care about to myself after the first hint, and he either can’t or won’t. I usually try to find something nice to say about it, but the minute the phone comes out and he starts searching for something I’m like “oh god what now”. I know he’s just trying to share the stuff he likes with me, but WHY MUST I WATCH THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO? WHY. *Side note, he’s shown me a couple more politically charged videos that sparked serious, intense discussion that, while not an argument, got pretty heated and is something we agreed to try to avoid because it was distressing both of us. So maybe I’m being “triggered” now by the sight of the good ol’ YouTube search bar? I mean….it seems silly but maybe? Anyway, I’m sure many of you go through this too: how do you suffer gladly your S.O.’s passions that leave you cold?
Stellaaaaa* July 29, 2017 at 7:01 pm When I’m first starting to date someone, I keep track of how much I’m compromising from day 1. It’s incredibly common for women to bite their tongues, and then when the men make calls for compromise about bigger issues, they don’t realize that you’ve already been compromising about EVERYTHING from the very beginning. This won’t be what you want to hear, but I recently ended it with a guy who did the exact same thing with youtube videos. It was a surprisingly short distance from “you need to care about the things I care about” to “Why do you need to care about your own stuff when I’m giving you my own better stuff to care about” to judgment about my own personal beliefs, because obviously his own beliefs deserved to be discussed and shared but mine didn’t. Mine needed to change to be like his. I think you need to start asserting your right to have your own hobbies and preferences. Don’t pretend to like his stupid crap if he doesn’t pretend to like your stupid crap. He should respect that you like things that he doesn’t care about. What if you wanted to go to a concert and he didn’t want to go with you? Would you have to go by yourself? But would he expect you to go to his concerts with him? Someone who doesn’t understand that people can date while having separate interests would require a bit too much “now let me walk you through the basics of human interaction” for me. But that’s just me, and this is just my experience. It’s oddly similar to yours though, which I why I was honest about how it played out.
katamia* July 29, 2017 at 7:07 pm Would it help to ask him to summarize the videos rather than make you sit through the whole thing and give him some sort of time constraint (i.e., maybe a 5-minute video can have a summary of up to 2 minutes)? I hate watching videos in general and am therefore already a bit pre-annoyed when someone wants to show me something on YouTube. It’s not clear from your post whether he genuinely thinks you’re going to be excited by the new video (so the disappointment from your lack of interest feels new each time) or whether he knows you’re not into it but is just so excited that he wants to share anyway. I don’t love the “I’ll work on it” reaction on your part–I wonder if it’s giving him hope that eventually you’re going to see the same awesomeness that he sees in Teslas or whatever it is he’s showing you. Alternatively, maybe try being a little less attuned to his hints about not being interested in whatever it is you want to show him for a period of time and see if that affects the amount of videos you’re subjected to.
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 7:48 pm Can you ask him what he’s looking for here? Not in the moment when there’s a Matchbox-sized car in your face and you’re in a tug-of-war, but when you’re on a walk or a car journey or something low-stakes while you’re quietly doing something else. “Honey, you really want me to get into those videos, and it seems like it’s frustrating both of us that I’m not. Can you tell me what they mean to you?” I think you might discover some interesting stuff about why he goes nuts for it, and the conversation might allow you to find ways you can demonstrate you’re interested in his Tesla dream without sitting through every video. Does he know that you decide not to show him stuff that interests you? Because I suspect that you’re in that unfortunate adult conundrum where virtuous restraint is invisible and therefore goes unreciprocated. Therefore another possibility is to go in the other direction and for you not to put stuff away so fast; if you can put up with Tesla, he can put up with economic theory or cats on roombas or whatever.
NaoNao* July 29, 2017 at 8:36 pm That’s a very good idea! We have a very talk-centric relationship (we were friends for a year first) and usually what happens is that the conversational note will spark off a recollection or urge in him and he really, really wants to show me XYZ video right then. In addition to the other conversation we’ve had about the topic, sigh :) I did mention it slightly but part of the difference is that I tend to describe things (books, movies, tv shows) and he tends to be like “let me just pull that up and show you!”
Bigglesworth* July 29, 2017 at 8:56 pm I agree with fposte. I haven’t been married for very long (we’re coming up on 5 years in December), but both my husband and I have had…intense… discussions about hobbies (whether it is the strong interest in or lack thereof). Especially when we were first figuring out what living together actually meant, he would go on and on about a particular video game, modifying cars, and creating music, while I was trying not to bore him with my video games, love of being outdoors, talking politics, etc. What was really a breakthrough conversation was when we talked about what it meant to us when we shared or didn’t share our hobbies and interests with each other and to set some boundaries that worked for us (ex. he has a time limit on how long he can talk about modifying his car). This wasn’t a conversation we had in the heat of the moment, but rather over a boring dinner. Our method may not work for everyone, but it may be something to try.
Jessi* July 29, 2017 at 10:35 pm “Babe I love you but I just don’t love your car videos. Iv’e been alive for x years and cars have never been an interest of mine. Knowing that I have no interest in them why do you wish to show them to me?” Then wait, no filling in the silence
Myrin* July 30, 2017 at 5:56 am What I get from your comment is that you seem to think that this is somehow something that you must endure – you tell him you’ll work on your indifferent reaction, you say one must “take one for the team” in a relationship, you try to say something nice about a thing that doesn’t interest you at all, you talk about “gladly suffering” a partner’s passion. But really, I think it’s perfectly fine to say that you don’t like Thing and no, you won’t ever like Thing, and if partner wants to talk about it for two minutes that’s alright but anything more than that is just wasted time for you. I’m a bit unclear on what the situation is like – you say a conversation you have “will spark a memory or idea”. So is it like you talk about, for example, cars in some way and you say “I just realised I have no idea how a car’s breaks actually work” and then he goes to show you a video of how breaks work? So, is his video-showing motivated by wanting to provide you with information? Because in that case, I feel like it’s completely fine and comparatively easy to just have a general conversation about how you are better with that kind of information when he just summarises it in three sentences and that you’re not soooo incredibly interested in how car breaks work that you need to literally see every detail from every angle. Or is it more that you talk about cars and then he realises that he saw this cool video on how breaks work and then he pulls it up to show you? Despite you always having been uninterested before? Because that would mean that he either doesn’t realise or doesn’t care that this is something that bores you and that you’d really rather not experience and that absolutely warrants a big picture conversation because that helps whether he’s just ignorant of your disinterest or actually actively ignores it. I have to say that personally, this situation would drive me absolutely bananas. I’m not a big compromiser; I care extremely little about a lot of stuff so people always think I’m very good at compromising when in fact, I just really don’t care one way or another and am fine with either situation. I’m also not a sharer. I don’t understand why people would want to share extensive talk about their hobbies with their partners (unless the partner shared the hobby). I do my thing and if it was particularly exciting or cool or fun I will talk about that for two minutes and that was it (and I also think that there’s a difference between talking about a hobby per se and talking about your love for that hobby; I tend to do the latter much more than the former). So I don’t think it’s necessarily horrible when one person always talks about their hobbies and the other doesn’t because people are wired differently. However, you clearly are annoyed by it, so I really think a big picture talk is in order. But really, I do keep coming back to my feeling that your sense of “must do Thing to appease partner” needs to be a bit recalibrated. As an adult, he should be able to not only realise that other people don’t enjoy his hobbies but also that he needs to live with that and not mope about it afterwards. I also feel like the “sometimes you must sacrifice something for the sake of your relationship” gets increasingly whipped out with regards to the weirdest circumstances – as I understand it, it’s generally meant to make it clear that we can’t always get things our way, that we might have to move somewhere farther from our own work because our spouse has mobility issues and it’s better if we live closer to their work, or that we might be stuck with having to clean the spider-infested part of the basement because spouse has arachnophobia, or that we can’t go to the favourite beloved Italian place together because spouse’s grandfather died from eating an Italian meatball and the memories are too painful. I personally don’t think that it extents to “I must regularly watch videos I find boring and annoying and dumb just so my partner doesn’t feel like I don’t love 100% of the things he does”. (As a complete aside, I can’t believe this has happened more than once – there’s actually very littel I find more awkward than excitedly showing someone a picture or video or whatnot and their only reaction being “meh”. It’s one of my top five situations I want to avoid at all costs so I can’t understand how that’s actually something he actively seeks to do.)
AnonAcademic* July 30, 2017 at 2:43 pm At this point I’m blunt about it. I will tell my partner “sorry, I don’t have the attention span for a five minute video on this – do you want to summarize it for me?” or “I can watch one video but that’s all” or “I don’t think I’m the best audience for this, why don’t you call your friend who is also into your hobby?” I also let him know when he’s getting really repetitive with topics, usually in a teasing way or using a counterexample, like “would you enjoy me giving you the play by play of how I troubleshooted my data analysis problem? No? Well that’s what this feels like to me.” I think it’s actually a social intelligence thing to know when you’re losing the other party’s interest, and to care as much about their enjoyment of the conversation as your own. It’s not really “sharing an interest” if it’s one sided. Expecting a partner to share ALL your interests or fulfill all your needs about said interest, is a recipe for codependency and long term resentment, so I would definitely set a boundary about this ASAP.
Laura* July 29, 2017 at 7:05 pm It’s my birthday tomorrow. Had the birthday meal this morning and did super well at my the j word that we don’t use on the weekends. Looking forward to a good day tomorrow. Hope y’all have a great weekend.
Sophie* July 29, 2017 at 7:12 pm One of my goals for the year is to get better at leaving social gatherings. I’m from an area of the country that is known for its long good-byes, and I would really like to train myself to leave politely and quickly. Does anyone have any advice and/or scripts?
Laura* July 29, 2017 at 7:17 pm Is starting the goodbyes a little earlier an option that you’d consider? (It sounds like a win win to me- you adhere to the regional goodbye norms while skeedadling early)
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 7:19 pm Isn’t it less the script than the shutting up? “This was an amazing party–thank you so much!” [hug here if necessary] “I gotta run, but I’ll see you at the movie next week!” And move your feet out that door. If you need to grab a coat and a bag, do that first, otherwise you have to do the drill again with the coat on.
Saturnalia* July 29, 2017 at 8:33 pm Yep yep this! Repeat, keep talking, “sorry really gotta run, you’re lovely, goodbye, so sorry can you just text me tomorrow, k bye” don’t let them edge into your narrative of how you are leaving and do the door opening & closing yourself if you can. I quite dislike feeling trapped!
Ellie* July 30, 2017 at 1:13 am I am in a similar area- develop your skills at the Irish goodbye! That’s where you just leave! I just can’t stand the long drawn out foolishness, so when people are distracted, you grab your keys and slide out the door. When asked about it later, you say “Oh, I was in a rush- I told so-and-so to tell everyone bye for me.” (Always change the name of the person you supposedly talked to as you left, and if one of the named people confronts you, look surprised and confused and say “Well, shoot! If I didn’t say good bye to you, who did I say it to?”)
nep* July 30, 2017 at 6:18 am +1 A couple months back, I left a family gathering without doing the good-bye rounds. This was new for me. The good-byes always take too long; one does it grudgingly because — ‘guilt’? (!) And just overthinking mostly, in my case, and overestimating the importance of such trivial things. This day, it was amazingly liberating and pleasant. And the world didn’t come screeching to a halt. In fact things flowed perfectly.
Mimmy* July 30, 2017 at 11:25 am My family is notorious for those long goodbyes! It always drove me nuts when I was younger when, getting out of Sunday Mass, my parents would stop to chat with friends when all I wanted to do was get the heck home! Even at family gatherings, they do this. One time I confronted my mom, and she said “it’s called ‘visiting'”. Puleeze! lol. My husband is really good at moving us out the door and not getting caught up in conversations. Have purse in hand and any outwear on as you move your way out and try not to say anything that could prompt further conversation.
LizB* July 30, 2017 at 1:39 pm Traveling via taxi or ride-share (lyft, uber) is great for this. “Lovely to see you, I need to go, my cab is here!” Not always practical, but a good tool if it otherwise makes sense.
Hrovitnir* July 29, 2017 at 7:26 pm I don’t really post enough for people to know me super well, and it’s kinda late, but gonna post anyway. :P Back in NZ as of last Sunday. Feels weird! I was in Sweden from Jan – early Jul, then I went to Boston for 3 days, Chicago for 4 days, Portland (OR) for 5 days, LA for 3 days. That was… tiring. I enjoyed everywhere though, even if I was covered in sweat the entire time I was in Chicago. O_O Boston was actually really chill? Public transport was really easy for me at least, which made everything far less stressful. Portland is so hipstery, but I am pretty all about that vibe, and I was staying with my friend and hanging with her kids and goats which was nice. I did actually enjoy lounging in the sun in LA, which is somewhat surprising since I am not good at relaxing or heat, but it was good. Now back to winter, which isn’t very cold on a global scale, but walking the dog in the wind and the dark is quite a change! So that’s me. *waves*
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 7:37 pm That’s quite the journey! I remember your being in Sweden, because I’m kind of a Sweden junkie. Hope you’re enjoying being back home.
Saturnalia* July 29, 2017 at 8:35 pm Hi! Glad you made it back to NZ safe! Sounds like a busy and good week, glad Boston treated you so well too :-)
all aboard the anon train* July 29, 2017 at 10:35 pm Glad Boston treated you well! I’m always surprised when people from outside the city say the public transit is so great because everyone I know in the city, myself included, thinks it’s so awful.
Mischa* July 29, 2017 at 11:21 pm Man, I found it super easy! It was way easier than dealing with New York. I’m a midwesterner from a city with zero public transport, so the novelty of it all could’ve been coloring my opinion.
Hrovitnir* July 30, 2017 at 4:03 am Haha, I know that feel. Everyone says our public transport (Wellington, NZ) is good and I’m like “sure, if you live in a few, fortunate suburbs.” Personally I was staying near a subway station, they came so much more regularly than anywhere in NZ, I just got a multi-day pass and was able to easily hop on something to get wherever I wanted. It was easy to understand what was going on too – buses in Uppsala (Sweden) didn’t take cash, only card or a transport card, or an app I couldn’t get on my phone. In Stockholm they didn’t even take regular card payment! You HAD to have a transport card or the app. (You can buy train tickets at stations of course.)
Hrovitnir* July 30, 2017 at 4:00 am Thanks all! Would be great to come back with my partner: I don’t mind travelling alone, but it’s a pretty different experience.
Mimmy* July 29, 2017 at 7:50 pm UGH! Just got back from dinner and ran into a woman from one of my volunteer councils. I was wearing a shirt that, in hindsight, was probably a little snug. As I mentioned last week, I also have a lot of fat around my abdomen. This woman actually had the nerve to ask if I was expecting!! o_O I was like “Umm…no…” and my husband was laughing. This woman can be blunt, but she’s always been nice to me, so that was a surprise. Another reason I need to get my act together health-wise!
Emma* July 29, 2017 at 9:38 pm That’s something no one should ever, ever ask. I’m so sorry that woman was so rude and thoughtless.
tigerStripes* July 30, 2017 at 11:50 pm I’m hoping that the woman now feels very embarrassed and has vowed to never ask that again of anyone. Sometimes people just don’t think.
Anatole* July 29, 2017 at 10:32 pm My husband would get serious side eye from me in that situation and then a talking to when we were in private.
Mimmy* July 30, 2017 at 11:04 am To be fair, I didn’t see my husband laugh, he just said later that he “couldn’t stop laughing”. We rib each other all the time, so I was not offended at all. Plus, he completely agrees that the woman’s comment was uncalled for. It’s all good :)
nep* July 30, 2017 at 11:53 am I see — thanks for context. I was wondering whether it was a case of him laughing at her ridiculousness.
Sophie* July 29, 2017 at 7:51 pm My brother-in-law makes cracks about my Dad. (Dad passed away 8 years ago.) My Dad wasn’t exactly Bob Villa. He would make something, but not completely finish it. (It’s a running joke in the family that they would always get their sweater stuck on a nail that was sticking out somewhere.) He still built some great things- he re-built my sister’s car twice after she wrecked it; he built a fabulous porch outside and even professionals said to leave it alone because it was high quality, etc. My Dad was a teacher, so he would do all of these projects during the summer or when he had time off. My brother-in-law makes cracks about him and it really makes me mad. It’s like, he’s gone, so he can’t defend himself and my BIL doesn’t even know how to hold a darn hammer. I don’t know if I’m overreacting or what, but it really gets me. I often just bite my tongue because I don’t want to start an argument, but it really annoys me.
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 8:21 pm Do other people in the family make these jokes, or did your dad? I’m wondering if BIL picked up on this as an “in” thing and is riding it into the ground. At any rate, this doesn’t seem like it would be a hard thing to raise. “Bob, this keeps coming up. What’s up with that? Any chance you can find a different joke?”
Sophie* July 29, 2017 at 8:31 pm It would come up sometimes, but not a lot. It mainly had to do with the childhood home/town I grew up in, but we moved out of the house 10 years ago!
Sophie* July 29, 2017 at 8:33 pm It also bugs me because anyone related to my sister or a friend of my sister he makes fun of and mocks. His family and friends are perfect, yet he doesn’t like anyone related to her.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 10:09 pm Ugh. “Bob, can you find jokes that don’t put people down?” “Bob, that is my father/sister’s friend/other. Can we just let it go?” “Bob, my father raised your wife. I think he got the important part right, don’t you?”
Rescue all the dogs!!* July 29, 2017 at 7:55 pm So I’m in the long process of breaking it off with my fiancé. It hasn’t been working for a while and we are just going in completely different directions. I’ve also been going through hell at work and have just finished up two major projects and have a ridiculous amount of vacation time saved up. So I’ve put in to take two weeks off in late October. I live in a really ridiculously hot place and I’m pretty miserable, and I’ve got it in my mind that I want to take my dogs and go on a roadtrip to go explore some places with mountains. So I have two questions: 1. Do you all think it’s a bad idea to go solo tripping with the (big) dogs? I’m a female in my late twenties and I fancy myself pretty travel savvy. I’d be traveling through the south. 2. Does anyone have any tips on traveling solo with dogs? I know it adds an added layer of complication. I frequently take them with me to see my parents, who live 4 hours away, so they’re not unfamiliar with car journeys.
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 9:53 pm I went on a road trip through the south as a solo female and it was fine. I even had a big puppy with me for some of it! (Also fine, she just slept and we stopped at a lot of rest stops.) Do it! There’s a sweet kind of freedom to traveling on your own schedule, at your own pace.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 10:12 pm I have a friend who routinely travels with large dogs. People pretty much leave her alone. ;) Do have a plan on what to do if they get sick or if the AC breaks.
Jessi* July 29, 2017 at 10:40 pm I think the dogs will make you feel safer as a Lady travelling and exploring on your own! Most people wouldn’t take on two big dogs. I think your hardest part will be finding somewhere that takes the dogs (accommodation wise) though camping with a big tent would be easy :)
Loopy* July 30, 2017 at 9:31 am I moved cross country with my dog and it was 4-5 day drive. I did a lot of prep beforehand and it worked out well. I got one of those slings for the back that keeps the dog from jumping in the front, got a dogie seatbelt (which isn’t as restrictive as it sounds, you hang it from the door things and clip the dog to it so they don’t fly through a windshield in an accident. I had food prepackaged for doggie meals and good containers for easy water etc. I think if you put a little planning into it, it should be fine. And maybe plan routes with good stoping points. I had one day through a desolate, creepy, isolated stretch and stopping to even just to let my dog pee there was nerve-wracking!!!!
Lily Evans* July 29, 2017 at 8:13 pm Since I’ve vented about my mom here fairly often, here’s another gem from dinner with my parents tonight. My mom asked about a fitness class I’d been taking since I sometimes post pictures of it on FB, so I was talking about the video I’d posted from this week and how I’d ended up with some nasty bruises on my feet/ankles since I bruise so easily. And she thought it was funny to say, “Do you wear sandals to work? Your coworkers might think you’re into something kinky.” And she laughed and I was just like “What?” With what I know was a major WTF look on my face and I swear to god she almost started crying, like at our last dinner when I said I didn’t want to travel with her. And we sat in awkward silence for a solid minute. Then we capped the night off with the usual guilt tripping me into hugging her “I know you hate it but…” One of these days when I have the emotional energy I’m going to ask her why she insists on it if she knows I don’t like hugging because I want to see what her excuse will be.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 10:13 pm “Boundaries, mom. Get some.” Ugh. Have you considered shortening your visits or the frequency of visits?
AnotherAlison* July 30, 2017 at 11:57 am Ugh, I can relate to that. My mom is that type of awkward and my parents definitely have boundary issues. My mom asked me the other day if I wanted her to make me a birthday cake, and I said no because [logical reason], and she said she was going to make me one anyway. : | Trust me, it wasn’t a martyr-type, “No, you don’t have to go to trouble for little ol’ me.” It was a real no.
MsChanandlerBong* July 29, 2017 at 8:24 pm I’m feeling a bit grumpy today. My best friend, God love her, keeps coming up with ideas for activities to do when I fly back to the East Coast next week to visit my friends/family. Unfortunately, she always comes up with ideas without any regard for the fact that (due to having lupus, heart disease, four previous back surgeries, and stage 3 kidney disease) I cannot do some things that other people do. I had a horrible lupus flare two weeks ago–probably the worst one I have ever had. First she suggests that we go to a baseball game, which I would love, except she has lawn seats and the stadium is on a mountain, so it’s a long slog downhill to get there, and a long slog uphill to get back to the car. Plus, I can’t sit on the ground–my legs fall asleep and my back hurts terribly. I said no, so she suggested a water park. I can’t go on water slides and flumes when my joints are inflamed and my muscles hurt so badly that I feel like someone beat me with a baseball bat. I feel bad that I am shooting everything down, but I just can’t do it. My mom and I were supposed to drive to Pigeon Forge together in three weeks, but we had to cancel our trip because my lupus has been acting up and I didn’t know if I’d even be able to handle it–and our plans mostly consisted of music shows and other activities that didn’t even require much walking/outdoor time. In my friend group, I am known as the “Positive Patty” who never complains, but I feel like maybe I have to start complaining because no one ever seems to stop and think about whether the plans they are making are doable for someone with a chronic medical condition. The same thing has been happening with plans for my cousin’s bridal shower/hen party. I sent a text to the other bridesmaids saying that I am happy to contribute food and money toward the shower, but with my lupus acting up, I will be unable to set up tents, carry heavy platters of food, or do anything overly physical. And still they keep suggesting activities that I am unable to do. What do I have to do to make them understand? Record myself lying on the bathroom floor crying in pain when I have a lupus flare? It’s just so damn frustrating. They’re not even bad people; they’re just clueless.
fposte* July 29, 2017 at 9:41 pm Oh, Ms. C., I’m sorry. It’s frustrating especially when you’re already not feeling well. Two thoughts here: one, you don’t know what they’re *not* suggesting, so it actually is possible that they’re ruling stuff out before they bring it to you; they’re just not ruling out other wrong stuff. Two, more true to my experience, is that people remember stuff like this about other people only in quick flickers, and they generally rely on the people with the limits, whether they be mobility, dietary, whatever, to articulate what they are. So I don’t think it’s necessarily that they don’t understand–it’s that that understanding isn’t constant for them the way it is for you, and they think that excluding you from the possibility is far worse than assuming you can’t do stuff. The bridesmaiding will be over soon enough anyway, but it might be worth mentioning to your friends that you feel kind of left out and you really don’t have enough health right now to spearhead plans that you *can* do–could somebody make sure that there’s a low-impact get together in the rotation?
MsChanandlerBong* July 30, 2017 at 2:03 am I would be okay if they were asking me to do things and then adjusting when I said I couldn’t do something, but I was clear about the fact that I have a lot of dietary restrictions (no allergies, but I have to follow a low-sodium diet for kidney disease, and I am currently being evaluated by a GI because there is a whole list of foods that cause me such distress that I have ended up in the emergency room). Now, as far as the sodium, I do cheat from time to time. It’s hard to eat less than 1500 mg of sodium per day. But the restaurant they chose is a hibachi place. The entree options are steak, chicken, or shrimp doused in soy sauce, so the food has about five days’ worth of my sodium limit in it. I have given in and eaten there before, and I have always regretted it. I wake up the next morning barely able to open my eyes because they are so puffy from the sodium intake. I tried to head off that problem by ordering tempura the last time, but it had me in the bathroom before we even left the restaurant (I had my gallbladder removed, so I also have a hard time with greasy/fried food). I can’t even get an order of edamame because anything that is high-fiber or has any kind of peel/hull causes GI distress. I have made it clear that there is literally nothing for me to eat at this restaurant, but that’s where we’re taking the bride for her hen party. I’m just going to order water and sit there and watch everyone eat. I gave many other suggestions for places I can eat (I can eat anywhere that has a wider variety of food; a steakhouse is fine because I can get a small steak, a burger joint is fine because I can have grilled chicken or a burger–the problem here is that the restaurant has a limited menu, and all of the food is cooked in a similar way or with similar ingredients), but were still going to the hibachi place.
fposte* July 30, 2017 at 10:22 am Yeah, that’s not cool at all. I thought you were talking about just initial suggestions of places you can’t go, but if you flat out say “I can’t eat there, can we go to Other Place?” and they ignore you, that’s obnoxious.
Not So NewReader* July 29, 2017 at 10:21 pm I find for the most part people do not know unless they have first hand experience or see it unfolding in their own households. It might be good to form a small list of things you can do– phone calls, email? If you are on the bathroom floor screaming then you have zero availability at that point. I would say it that way, too. I went through a tamer version of this when my husband was first diagnosed diabetic. I found it helpful to decide that expecting people to understand what we are doing is not reasonable on my part. You can tell people the same thing ten times and some people just will not get it. I needed to focus on his well-being first and foremost, in order to do this I had to let that stuff slide. In time they may learn … or not.
Jessi* July 29, 2017 at 10:42 pm I’m really sorry you are going through this! Could you suggest some stuff to do with your friend that is easier on your body? ie fun dinner and theatre tickets? The idea being by firing off a couple of suggestions you will be able to head her off? Hope this helps!
MsChanandlerBong* July 30, 2017 at 2:06 am Yes, I could do that. I just get frustrated. For the past year, she’s been telling me about how fatigued she is and how she can barely do anything. She’s had every test under the sun–blood tests for vitamin D and B-12, an MRI to make sure she doesn’t have multiple sclerosis, etc. I just don’t know how she can be so fatigued and then suggest to someone with such ongoing health problems that we do something that involves hiking up and down a hill and then having nowhere to sit. (Side note: This particular venue is awful; it’s built on the top of a mountain, and the parking lot is so far away that you have to walk on the side of a busy road to get to the venue. People have been killed trying to walk back to their cars in the dark after concerts.)
Temperance* July 29, 2017 at 11:53 pm I have firsthand experience as an able-bodied person, and a temporarily disabled one. I can honestly say that I had no idea what it could possibly be like up until it happened to me. Friends of mine were always surprised by my limits because I had always been normal and I largely looked and acted the same, just slower-moving. I wonder if the bridesmaids are including you in the planning, but don’t expect you to do the heavy lifting? I can envision a scenario where they don’t want to leave you out, so they’re looping you in on details. I think your friend is making suggestions based on what you used to be able to do … and it might be better for you to make some suggestions to her. I don’t think she’s being unkind or even trying to minimize your pain, I just genuinely think she doesn’t get it.
MsChanandlerBong* July 30, 2017 at 2:21 am It’s really just a pattern of behavior. If it was just one or two instances, I probably wouldn’t be upset. Five years ago, I had a stent put in one of my arteries. I had only been out of the hospital for five days, and I was on all kinds of new medications that made me tired and lightheaded. We all played in a local band together, and when we arrived at rehearsal that week, they were all walking 50 feet ahead of me with no regard for the fact that I just got out of the hospital. I think I need to admit that I do not have that important of a place in their lives. I don’t need to stop talking to them; I just need to realize that I would do way more to consider their feelings and needs than they are willing to do for me.
Not So NewReader* July 30, 2017 at 7:41 am And start adding new friends to your life. I have done my own version of the road you are using and it was a pretty empty, lonely road. It’s fine and almost necessary to insist that friends reciprocate in their relationships with us. If your friends are not reciprocating that makes an unbalanced/uneven relationship. Start adding new people to your mix of peeps.
Red* July 29, 2017 at 8:25 pm So, after a doctor’s appointment on Friday, it has come to my attention that I have some vague sort of hypothyroidism. The doc thinks it’s probably Hashimoto’s, but sent me for more labs (he only tested TSH the first time, just as part of general lab work) and a thyroid ultrasound. I can’t say I didn’t see this coming, I have a family history of thyroid issues, but dangit – I’m 23 :( I don’t know what I’m looking for here – medical stories, life stories, something else entirely – but I’m thoroughly annoyed with my body. Ugh.
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 9:56 pm I got diagnosed with hypo at 24 (but onset at 23) and it’s very easily manageable for me – just a pill every day and a blood test every year. I felt so much better with the meds (3 days to a week after starting), it was insane. Good luck!
Red* July 29, 2017 at 10:04 pm Well, that’s half as bad as I was picturing! Somehow I had assumed I was looking at a future filled with thyroid ultrasounds, which was unpleasant and sticky btw, and lab work up the wazoo. I can live with a pill a day, I take more than that already! Thanks for the good news :)
Observer* July 29, 2017 at 10:55 pm If it’s Hashimoto’s they aren’t going to keep doing the ultrasounds – they just want to make sure that there is nothing else there while doing the diagnostics.
Red* July 29, 2017 at 11:27 pm Oh, that’s good! I sort of wanted to Google this to see how likely more ultrasounds were, but I know for a fact that would be a bad plan lol
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 11:13 pm Most people have to spend a few months finding the right dosage – they hit it for me first try and it’s never changed. So they’ll do another blood test after the first 3-4 months on the meds, and if they have to readjust, it’s another 3-4 months after that, but for most people, it’s incredibly easy to manage once you’ve got the prescription right. And at least for me, the symptoms are incredibly distinct, so if my dosage is off, I would know pretty fast. (not that I’ve ever forgotten my pills while travelling or anything.) Do be good about taking the pills every day – when I forget and take them every other day or so, I still get a little symptomatic.
Colette* July 29, 2017 at 10:28 pm My sister was born with hypothyroidism. It’s really common and mostly a minor hassle.
Red* July 29, 2017 at 11:36 pm Guys, y’all are awesome. I was so concerned and annoyed, and now I’m not. Thanks <3
Hashimoto's also* July 30, 2017 at 8:24 am Yes, hypothyroidism is manageable with a pill. If it is Hashimoto’s, that means your immune system is attacking your thyroid for some reason and it’s possible to stop that attack if you know what is causing it. That takes more time and effort and not all doctors are willing to do that. Just know that a pill will only provide T4 (and possibly T3) hormones, and you may need to increase the dose as you get older if your immune system continues the attack. The pill won’t do anything about that. The good news is you are diagnosed at 23! Many people with Hashimoto’s are not diagnosed until much later in life, when the thyroid has been under attack for some time. So knowing this now means that you can take steps now to feel better and possibly even mitigate the attack on your thyroid. And, yes, the ultrasound is to check for any other potential issues, such as nodules and thyroid size. If you have nodules, you may need to continue the ultrasounds to monitor their number and size. And you may need to have biopsies of especially large and/or growing nodules. But this is all very minor stuff and not much more than an inconvenience, really. Good luck!
Observer* July 30, 2017 at 11:12 am While the pill doesn’t affect the immune system directly, it DOES generally cause the immune system to stop attacking the thyroid – that’s why for most people who develop a goiter due to Hashimotos, the goiter stops growing and may even shrink. Nevertheless, it can’t hurt to do what you can to get your immune system calibrated, as immune system issues tend to cluster.
ValaMalDoran* July 30, 2017 at 2:51 pm This info is for Red, and for anyone who might find it helpful. One of the most common meds for under active thyroid is Synthroid (Levothyroxine), which is a T4 only med. Some people do fine on Synthroid, some really, really don’t. (My husband is one of those people. He’s had Hashimoto’s since he was 12.) 80% of a human’s T3 comes from T4 conversion, but the thyroid flat out makes the remaining 20%. So people on Synthroid will only ever have 80% of the T3 a person with a healthy thyroid does. And lower T3 levels cause some people issues with depression and anxiety. Also, many doctors only test TSH. But another important thing to test is free T3. And testing for thyroid antibodies will indicate whether it is Hashimoto’s/autoimmune. If you do have Hashi’s, that test will also tell you if your immune system is still attacking your thyroid throughout the course of your life. My husband has been doing much better since we found a doctor that would prescribe Armour Thyroid, which replaces everything a healthy thyroid makes. (If you have trouble finding a doctor who prescribes Armour, call pharmacies or compounding pharmacies in your area. The pharmacist should be able to tell you which doctors do.) I also recommend the Stop the Thyroid Madness website. Fair warning though, Armour Thyroid is animal derived. Sorry if the above comes across as doom and gloomy. The medical community’s insistence on Synthroid in the US is a huge pet peeve of mine. I can’t think of another illness in which they would expect people to get healthy by only treating 80% of the problem. Annnnyway, it’s really good that you’re getting a diagnosis! And what other commenters have said about it being manageable is very true. Since getting on the right dosage, my husband just has his yearly blood test to check his levels.
Observer* July 30, 2017 at 7:57 pm Armour is not the only option if you need T3. Cytomel is the main brand name for T3. A lot of doctors are more comfortable with that, than the Armour, because it’s easier to control the dose.
Book Lover* July 30, 2017 at 11:11 pm Yup. Armour thyroid is misery inducing. I am glad it works for some people, and perhaps I am only seeing the ones who are struggling, but most patients on synthroid can be on the same dose for years. Armour it seems like constant adjustments are needed, every 12 weeks. I think it is a problem with consistency in the pills themselves. I actually think, again, just based on what I have seen, that most people are perfectly happy with levothyroxine, but otherwise lebothyroxine with cytomel and maybe nature throid seem easier to manage.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 2:23 pm I got diagnosed as hypothyroid at around 29. It showed up a year before that in the form of extreme (and I do mean extreme) fatigue and a few other symptoms, and I was going nuts trying to figure out what was wrong. They gave me every test on earth EXCEPT that one. :P I’m okay now; I’m on 75 mcg of Levothyroxine and I’m fine. It’s generally an easy fix. But you do have to have the hormone every day for the rest of your life. Thankfully, since I have no insurance other than my doctor’s office’s low/no-income program, the prescription is only $4 at Walmart.
NPG* July 29, 2017 at 8:44 pm Anyone know of a really good support forum for people who are caretakers for spouses with serious, chronic illness? My wife had a ton of medical issues, and I do what I can to support her, but sometimes it would be really, really helpful to talk with someone else in my boat. Thanks, all!
Rebecca* July 29, 2017 at 9:14 pm I don’t know about online, but I live in rural PA, and there are notices all the time in the newspaper about Alzheimer’s support groups, cancer support groups, that type of thing, so perhaps there’s a support group for your issues, too? Could you reach out to the local hospital? I know here, support groups meet at the hospital at regular times. I’m sorry you’re going through this and I wish you so much peace.
Tabby Baltimore* July 30, 2017 at 10:21 am I can think of three places to start your research process: (1) go to your local large hospital, and if there’s directory assistance desk there, ask someone for directions to where the hospital’s social workers’ (or, if that draws a blank, try “outpatient counseling services” or even “geriatric care services”) offices are located. These employees work for the hospital’s patients and their families, and no doubt many of them are in the same boat you are, so you are likely to solid referrals; (2) any local very large church, synagogue, or mosque, since it’s likely the church’s office manager can probably put you in touch with someone who will know about such support services in your area. If you are uncomfortable with calling a house worship, making it clear from the beginning that you’re just seeking a list of referrals from a trusted source should help make your conversation more transactional. (3) your local public library might possibly either have such a list of groups handy, or the library itself may host these groups on a weekly or monthly basis. Talking to librarians at the reference desk, or even with the branch manager who does the building’s scheduling, might help you here. Good luck.
Merci Dee* July 29, 2017 at 8:56 pm So, pretty much had my heart ripped out today. Took kiddo shopping for new school shoes. She’s gone up a size, so she’s now officially in women’s size shoes, with a 6. That wad a mini-rip. On the way out of the mall, we stopped by the Clinique counter. She’s starting 7th grade, so it seems like a good time to start with a little makeup. Got her some powder, blush, crayon shadow, and mascara. The sales lady put some color on the kiddo, and swept some mascara on her gorgeous lashes, and there it was… my heart was ripped out and ground into the floor, leaving a gaping hole in my chest. Because suddenly, she wasn’t kiddo any more. All at once, she was a lovely young lady. Siiiiiiiiiigh….. Now I need to shop for a baseball bat to beat the boys away ….
Merci Dee* July 30, 2017 at 7:56 pm I’m finding that this rip-out-my-heart, she’s-growing-up sensation isn’t a one time thing. Same thing happened a year or so ago, when we had to buy her first training bras. How weird is that, when you think about it – training bras? What exactly are we training our breasts to do? Do tricks? Or lure those elusive men closer…?
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 8:00 pm Hahaha, I know–I never did figure that one out. Maybe training us to get used to wearing a harness for the rest of our lives.
Merci Dee* July 30, 2017 at 8:56 pm Ha! Good point, never thought of that. It’s a little disappointing if all we’re training for is being trussed up like a Thanksgiving turkey.
SOOPERDOOPER ANON* July 29, 2017 at 9:11 pm My marriage is over, and has been over for some time, and my husband and I live like 2 bad roommates, not like War of the Roses, but it’s really unpleasant. I sleep upstairs, he sleeps downstairs, and we just stay out of each other’s way as much as possible. He finds every reason to criticize me, and I need to file the papers and just put a stake in it once and for all. About a year or so ago, a man from my past, college specifically, who I knew and spent tons of time with for 4 years in my major, connected with me on Facebook. That sparked some old feelings but I didn’t act on them, I saw he was married, 3 kids, etc. I’d look at his page, he’d look at mine, he PM’d me and said I could call to catch up any time, and I always responded with “I’d love to see you AND YOUR WIFE” because no matter how bad my current situation, I wasn’t going to be “the other woman” or interfere in his marriage. It turns out he’s divorced, all kids grown and out of high school, and he never changed his status. This was a very long time ago, I’m over 50, and old enough to know better, but now I feel like I did all those years ago, and could kick myself for being so stupid as not to have seen this person right in front of me. It’s probably a good thing he lives 1000 miles away because honestly I wouldn’t trust myself with him. I told him that adultery is off the table, and he said he’d wait for me. We talk every day and it’s like a breath of fresh air, we have so many things in common and he’s educated and smart. I’m going to file for divorce as soon as I can. I just wish I knew what the future will hold, but I believe it’s never too late to fix past mistakes and correct one’s path in life. If this is the right thing for both of us, I’d be thrilled. If not, we will have at least tried and no regrets. So, for now, we text…at lot…and share photos of our lives…and our texting has strayed a bit into some pretty NSFW discussions, if you get my drift…OMG…the feelings this is dredging up. He’s a teacher, on summer break, and my coworkers can’t figure out why I’m smiling and tapping my phone…if they only knew…at one point my face flushed a bit and I drew in a breath, and my office mate asked me what was wrong, and I said, oh, I’m just a bit warm, need my fan. So I’m going to fly down to see him for the day in a month or so, and I can’t wait. It’s like I’ve been on hiatus for 30 years. I need to check with my attorney first, as I don’t want to provide actual grounds to my husband, sadly, being a lazy ass is not grounds for divorce in the eyes of the law…but adultery is. Not sure if after I file it’s OK to go on a date, but need to check that out just in case. And then my rational brain says “seriously, what are you doing?” but my heart says “you have waited too long to be happy, go for it”.
Damaged goods* July 29, 2017 at 9:21 pm Just make sure that he truly is divorced, or at least not with another woman. I’ve discovered those NSFW texts and emails four years ago and have yet to recover. I don’t think I ever will. Ev.er.
SOOPERDOOPER ANON* July 29, 2017 at 10:09 pm I follow Ronald Reagan’s philosphy – trust, but verify. I’ll be sure to search the records in the county where he lives just to double check.
Emma* July 30, 2017 at 7:44 am Good job! The part about him just not updating his info sounds super sketch so it’s great you’re checking.
Red* July 29, 2017 at 9:40 pm Best: I got a new haircut and cannot deal with how much I like it! I’m almost glad to have work photos taken on Monday because this needs to be immortalized in a public way, and I loathe taking selfies. Worst: My friend has the same mental health issues I do and hers are acting up big time. It concerns me greatly.
Effie, getting there* July 30, 2017 at 12:06 am BEST: I’m building my confidence and happiness up again slowly. I AM young and hot and sexy and awesome! WORST: I love my cheating, lying, rapist ex SO much. It’s just going to take a lot of time and self-care to move on.
Ramona Flowers* July 30, 2017 at 6:30 am Best: went to Whitby yesterday and it was awesome. Also, had been upset about missing a work away day to a really cool event due to a training course I already booked but have found I can transfer to another date free. Worst: am in a car right now with somebody who wants to chat the entire time. I need some quiet time to decompress and it is taking all my self control not to ask her to please SHUT UP for five minutes.
Mimmy* July 30, 2017 at 11:15 am Oh gawd how I can relate to being stuck with someone who just won’t. shut. up. Even if I say very little (as a hint), they just keep going. (not referring to anyone in particular, just in general)
Carmen Sandiego JD* July 30, 2017 at 8:54 am Best: every day feels like a vacation without nmom in the picture. Also, fun photography on a sunny day. Worst: SO is stressed out about a license exam mid August. We need good vibes! (Like, unicorn rainbow in the sky good vibes). The exam has a 30% very low pass rate. I’ve told him I love him no matter what.
Ruffingit* July 30, 2017 at 9:39 am BEST: On vacation for the week! Heading into NYC today. WORST: Job stuff. Need a new one. Working on that.
KR* July 30, 2017 at 11:45 am Best, I’m home from a week of business travel and my friends and I are going to the top of a large semi-local mountain today via a tramway. We are in southern California and when you get to the top of this mountain there are TREES and GRASS and it’s not 110°. So excited. Worst: I’ve been away all week and right as I was supposed to send the dog for a walk last night I got a migraine so I feel bad he and I haven’t done anything special yet since I’ve been back.
Jules the First* July 30, 2017 at 2:01 pm Best: I had soooooo much fun at work this week, plus a fantastic night at the theatre on Tuesday (which I have been looking forward to since we bought the tickets in January!) Worst: I did not get to see my pony this week because I was too busy and dangit I miss her! (Even if she did bite her other owner…)
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 2:31 pm BEST: IT FINALLY COOLED OFF YAAAAAAASSSSSSSSS We had some rain and now the highs are in the 80s and last night it was 60! I had to put socks on! Not looking forward to winter (ugh), but I’m so glad the heat took a break, at least for now. This house, man. The single-pane windows and old oldy oldiness make it impossible to regulate the temperature in here. Also had a fun time doing street cleanup with friends yesterday, though we found a young raccoon that had been hit and was on its last moments. :'( Nothing we could do for it so we left it. WORST: MOVE. YOUR. ARSE. UNIVERSE. I am not joking around here.
Cruciatus* July 30, 2017 at 2:32 pm Best: It’s the little things… So the library I work at was getting rid of some chairs. The upholstery is worn but these chairs are super duper solid wooden chairs. Some other departments claimed some, but I asked the university if I could buy some, depending on price, before they are sent to the surplus store the university owns. The price they got back to me was $2.12 per chair! Woo! I claimed 6 (for a house I don’t even own yet. But at least I’ll have seating for 6 somewhere). Worst: Didn’t break up with my realtor yet though we are for all practical purposes “on a break.” Also, fell in love with a house I hadn’t seen somehow and realized why. It’s one block away from the better school district. I wanted to buy within the better one but am starting to talk myself out of it… “But you don’t have kids! You’re not even dating someone! You never wanted kids so maybe school district doesn’t matter!” Seriously, this house is lovely… Gah!
Trixie* July 30, 2017 at 7:48 pm Best: Big work thing on Friday done and FINALLY behind me. Worst: No more OT at work and that extra income was nice. Also, one of my house/pet sitting gigs cancelled on me. Hopefully it’s not a long-term thing and they’ll call again. (You get used to that extra cash coming in and in your mind, already have it saved or applied toward debt.)
nep* July 29, 2017 at 10:08 pm Anyone here ever converted camcorder video to a computer? What equipment did you use / how did you do it? I know of a business nearby that offers this service; I’ve had them do some for me in the past and they’re great. Just would like to experiment doing some of my own.
Rovannen* July 30, 2017 at 12:52 am We bought a device off of Amazon, something like this: Diamond VC500 USB 2.0 One Touch VHS to DVD Video Capture Device. I did this about 5 years ago so it’s a bit hazy and I no longer have the device to reference. It took minimal set up, learning the editing was the hardest. I got all our VHS, Camcorder, and even some audio reel-to-reels transferred to our computer. We had to take the 8mm to Costco as we don’t have a working device for that. I liked that I could cut out a lot of useless floor video and keep the good stuff.
Al Lo* July 29, 2017 at 10:55 pm We added bidet attachments to our toilets this month, and I love it. Just the inexpensive ones that attach to the cold water — I would think that getting a warm water attachment would take too long to actually warm up to a comfortable temperature anyway, so it kind of makes the extra effort a moot point (but if you have one and can let me know otherwise, I’d love to know!). I realized this week that installing them in the middle of a heat wave probably makes it more “refreshing” than “shockingly cold.”
Melody Pond* July 30, 2017 at 3:16 am Oh, nice! Mr. Pond and I bought the Tushy bidet attachment, and it also only does the cold water option. But we had ours installed during the colder winter months, and I still found it more “refreshing” than uncomfortably cold. Whenever I’m worried about it feeling like a shock to the system (due to being too cold), I just start really really low on the water pressure and build it up gradually. I really, really love it. I dislike using the restroom at work now, because I’d much rather have the bidet attachment available at all times. It feels soooo much more hygenic.
Jules the First* July 30, 2017 at 2:03 pm How is it when you’re cleaning the toilet? A nuisance? No problem? Do you find you clean more often? I’d love to have a bidet again, but that would mean redoing the bathroom and I can’t face that when it’s less than two years old.
Al Lo* July 31, 2017 at 2:16 am The ones we got just attach onto the toilet seat under the seat hardware. No redoing — just take the seat off, pop the attachment in place, and put the seat back on.
Al Lo* July 31, 2017 at 2:18 am And they’re not really in the way for cleaning. The nozzles hang just over the back edge of the seat, but I can still get in behind them to clean under the rim with a brush. And they only hang a few inches into the bowl, so it doesn’t hinder any other part of the cleaning process.
fposte* July 30, 2017 at 10:18 am Are these versions that work without an electrical hookup? My bathrooms are very complicated, power-wise, and that’s been what’s dissuaded me.
Al Lo* July 31, 2017 at 2:15 am On Amazon, they range from about $30 for the basic, cold-only, no-electricity-needed models (which is what we got) to $600+ for a full toilet seat with multiple controls and nozzles, heated seats, hookups for electricity and hot water, etc. The $30 version has been quite fine for me. :)
StudentA* July 30, 2017 at 11:53 am Bidets are awesome. I never understood why they aren’t the norm in the US. Not to be biased, but we’re a pretty hygiene-centered culture as compared to many parts of the world. So it’s always baffled me.
Jules the First* July 30, 2017 at 3:20 pm Because then we’d have to actually admit that we poop… I have really close friends in North America with whom I’ve been friends for decades and we have never, not once, discussed bathroom habits. Living in the UK, I’ve casually recommended a mooncup to coworkers I barely know and many of my continental friends don’t bother to close the bathroom door, even when acquaintances are over. And let’s not get started on the peculiar awkwardness which is attending a public pool in Iceland with an American friend…(me: opens locker, strips down, grabs towel and bikini, chats briefly with naked stranger about getting locker keys to work, turns to ask friend if she’s ready for the shower. Friend: red faced, wrapped in towel over her bikini, eyes on the ceiling…)
Merci Dee* July 30, 2017 at 8:10 pm I went on a work trip to Korea a couple of years ago, and fell in love with the bidet seats on the toilets. They’re everywhere, and they’re almost all the electrical ones that warm the water (and it is warm as soon as it comes out). It was life-changing. Some of the other girls on the trip were just as enthused about them as I was, but the American guys were strangely eager to shut down the conversation. In his words, “ain’t nothing supposed to be spraying around down there.” So, in general, it seems like some folks with up-tight backsides have derailed it for the rest of us. Siiiigh.
Ophelia Bumblesmoop* July 31, 2017 at 3:14 pm At our old house we installed the bidet seats with electrical hookup so we had a heated seat, warm water. It was fantastic. Just FANTASTIC. At our new house we didn’t want to spend the money to have outlets installed in all three bathrooms, so we got the simple cold water spray. My son refuses to use it. We’ve been discussing installing a better one in the master suite water closet for me and my son to use (hubby uses 2nd bathroom upstairs). I will never, ever live in a house that doesn’t have a bidet. They are perfection. We have talked about one day converting the master water closet to whole system. Toto makes mind-blowing ones. I just want one that has the heated seat, heated water, and a dryer. A few weeks ago I added a motion light to the bowl and I was amazed by how much of a difference it made. So much that we added one to the boys’ bathroom (hubby and son). No need to turn on the light when I get up to pee in the middle of the night. It helps me stay sleepy and fall back asleep pretty quick. This is what I bought: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IT0K2OQ/
Mischa* July 29, 2017 at 11:08 pm So. I don’t really have anyone to talk to about this, because I have a feeling my friends/family would take it way, way out of context. I am a single, 25-year-old woman. I’m interested in men. But…I’ve never dated one, been with one. No physical contact, ever. It’s something that I’m really longing for, I guess. I just want to settle down and find someone who looks at me the way my dog looks at ice cream — that is, with love and adoration. I loathe going solo, but at the same time I’m not rushing into anything. Basically, I’m really terrible at dating and meeting people — mostly because I’ve just never done it before. I’ve noticed myself developing a small crush on my best friend since high school — let’s call him Luke. We never dated. Luke was always into other girls, and there just wasn’t any mutual attraction. But as we matured and went through university we became closer in a totally platonic, non-romantic way. He’s married to a wonderful woman (Mara) who has quickly become one my good friends. Luke and I along really well and have so much in common — I feel like I can just be totally myself around him and Mara, which is really hard for me to do around people I don’t know very well (one reason why I am terrible at dating). I don’t have romantic feelings for him per se, yet at the same time I have this weird crush on him, like I’m attracted to the idea of him. (To be clear: I would NEVER initiate something romantic with him, ever – nor would he do the same with me. We have discussed this extensively as he takes his vows seriously, as do I.) I don’t know what’s going on :( I’m wondering if I’m just attracted to unavailable guys, or if I am so desperate for companionship my brain is creating some kind of unattainable fantasy? Does this even make sense? I do not want to lose my friendship with Luke and Mara, but I also don’t want to torture myself.
TL -* July 29, 2017 at 11:23 pm I think maybe you just really want a relationship and he’s the safe and easy choice for you to fantasise about. He’s safe because he’s not available, easy because you know him and like him, and you know what he’s like in a relationship (and you probably want some of the elements that are in their relationship.) It sounds like you’re ready to start dating and you are maybe still hesitant, because dating is new and scary, so you’re letting Luke in as the Romantic Interest because that’s a lot easier than dating. Which is totally understandable (think of all the preteens/teenagers with awkward crushes on their teachers or friends’ older siblings – totally unattainable people while they work out how to deal with The Crush Feelings.) I think you’re ready to date, though! Sign up for an online thing and go on a bunch of super awkward first dates. Or go out with Not-Luke friends and practice flirting with guys who you will never see again. Try to bring men who aren’t Luke into your life, even if it’s just for a date or 15 minutes while you’re out, and start to see them as romantic possibilities. There’s no harm in having a little crush on Luke but there is harm to letting Luke become The Romantic Interest in your life.
Anonymous Educator* July 30, 2017 at 12:35 am I kind of feel if you were attracted to unavailable guys, you’d probably be attracted to more than just Luke, no? I think it’s probably more that you just feel comfortable with him. Any chance you really admire the relationship he and Mara have and just want that kind of relationship for yourself? By the way, I know this isn’t exactly what you’re asking about, but regarding this… Basically, I’m really terrible at dating and meeting people — mostly because I’ve just never done it before. … I would say that we’re all bad at everything until we start actually doing it. You will have awkward moments, bad dates, horrible dates, etc., but I think the sooner you start doing that, the sooner it will get better… or at least you’ll feel more confident about things. I don’t know that anyone is really “good” at dating?
Melody Pond* July 30, 2017 at 3:25 am I hope this doesn’t fall into the category of armchair diagnoses, but… A couple of the phrases you used to describe what you want, rang a bell in my head that reminded me of the asexuality spectrum. I could totally be way off here, but… does the idea of a loving, romantic relationship with little-to-no sexual energy exchange appeal to you? If the answer is yes – I was thinking that perhaps that could be part of why your attraction to Luke has grown since he’s been married. I’ve got vague ideas about how maybe him being married to someone else takes the sexual connection off the table for sure, and maybe the potential companionate/romantic connection that’s left over really appeals to you? It’s kind of a stretch, though, so again – maybe I’m way off-base here (this is also kind of a late-night, jumbled thought process). But, if any part of this badly-written conjecture resonates with you – I think there are quizzes/assessments out there on the web that can give you a sense of where you might be on the asexuality spectrum.
Mischa* July 30, 2017 at 11:23 am Hmm, I think you’re partially right. I grew up in a really conservative religious environment, where sex or anything related to physical contact was demonized. Though I never bought into their women-as-subservient philosophies (which is why I never hung out with any of the guys at church), it’s really been difficult to shake everything that was drilled into me. I want a physical relationship in theory, but I am beyond terrified of it. So yeah, there may be touches of asexuality. I haven’t really thought of it before.
Emma* July 30, 2017 at 7:18 am The part about how you and Luke have discussed extensively that you would not have a romance stood out to me. That’s not a normal thing to talk about with a married friend (I’m including him for sure in this- I’d be alarmed if my husband had a friend he was telling there could never be romance- I’d wonder in what context this was coming up). I’d maybe step back from this friendship for now, or at least consider it, since as you said, it’s torturing you. I’d also consider going to a counselor since they may have insight/advice knowing you that we can’t over the internet. And I’d also consider trying online dating. That may be a good way to practice, since that group of people has clearly indicated their availability/interest, it’s often easier finding a date that way than other venues. I’d try to use it to practice- at first it will be awkward/uncomfortable since you haven’t done it before, but you’ll improve with time!
Mischa* July 30, 2017 at 10:44 am I see what you’re saying. Let me clarify, because I phrased that really badly. Both he and I find it super annoying that since someone married, everyone assumes you can’t hang out with female friends because something will happen. Well, it didn’t happen when he was dating Mara, or when they were engaged…because neither of us were interested. So why would that change now that he’s married? So that’s what I mean discussed extensively — we aren’t specifically talking about the two of us. But I absolutely understand what you mean and I definitely am seeing how it’s not typical. I just signed up for an online dating profile, so we’ll see what happens!
Emma* July 30, 2017 at 2:31 pm That makes a lot of sense! Thanks for the context & explanation. I hope your online dating time is great.
Not So NewReader* July 30, 2017 at 8:03 am I am big fan of checking for simple explanations first. I read somewhere that it is through our friendships that we start to learn how relationships work and we start to learn how we might navigate a marriage or long term relationship. We also learn about what we like and dislike in other people and we learn where our own strengths and weaknesses are. I suggest to you that Luke is your reference point or starting point for thinking about things that are important to you in a relationship. Using simple examples and then you can find more later- let’s say Luke is always on time. Every time you guys do something together he is punctual. You realize that you place a high value on that punctuality. So this becomes a clue of something you would like in a longer term partner. Okay another simple example. Suppose you notice that Luke always speaks nicely to strangers, people behind the counter and so on. You notice that you reeeally admire that. Okay, that is another clue for something that might be important to you in a long term partner. Don’t confuse discovery with attachment. Your friend Luke has allowed you to discover what you like in relationships. (And you have done the same for him.) Sometimes we let people into our lives and share at the most basic levels. That’s a precious gift by itself and does not need to be anything further than that. (We see a lot of sharing on basic levels on this forum. And there is definitely nothing further than that going on.) I have noticed with myself that if I have a good, good friend I tend to quit looking for other friends. I tend to just hang with that one good friend. This is putting all our eggs in one basket. So yes, you will tend to develop a deep bond on that basis also. Is it more than that? I dunno, so far it does not seem to be. Extrovert yourself. Keep Luke and his wife as the precious friends they are but expand your social circle. You can have many precious friends and that is okay. I think once you broaden your interactions other things will fall into place.
Mischa* July 30, 2017 at 1:25 pm Thank you, everyone. Truly. I appreciate your objective insight and advice. This has given me a lot to think about.
Surrogate Tongue Pop* July 29, 2017 at 11:14 pm Getting my gallbladder removed Monday. Can’t wait to eat stuff and feel like me again. Had to fill out an advanced directive/living will to turn in Monday morning. I found it odd that I don’t understand one of the questions! I did the ol’ “leave it blank” method. May the anesthesia gods be kind to me!
The Other Dawn* July 30, 2017 at 7:08 am Good luck! I had mine out about 4 years ago and it was a very easy recovery. Word of advice: make sure you’re near a bathroom. Th ings can be a little unpredictable in the first week while your body starts to adjust to not having your gallbladder, especially if you have milk or something else with fat in it.
Surrogate Tongue Pop* July 30, 2017 at 1:11 pm Thanks for the advice! I am going to ask what I can put in my stomach to help with taking the meds. I did get protein shakes. But they’re dairy-ish.
periwinkle* July 30, 2017 at 2:09 pm Pick up some Syntrax Nectar protein powders! They are fruity rather than dairy. You can buy a sampler pack or take a chance on a flavor. It’s readily available online and you might be able to find it at a brick & mortar location of stores like The Vitamin Shoppe. For a while I had to rely heavily on protein shakes and the usual chocolate/vanilla offerings got boring and tasted mostly weird. My go-to became the Syntrax Nectar Lemon Iced Tea flavor. It tastes like iced tea! For good measure I’d mix it with half water and half real unsweetened iced tea, but it was fine on its own.
Mimmy* July 30, 2017 at 11:10 am For important things like that, I ask my husband for clarification on anything I don’t understand. Is there someone you can ask? Could you get clarification when you turn in the paperwork? Good luck tomorrow!
Surrogate Tongue Pop* July 30, 2017 at 1:13 pm I live alone, single :) But I will ask at the registration desk tomorrow before I have the witnesses sign it, so I can designate an answer. I feel like I’m not interpreting it correctly. Thanks for the good wishes.
Max Kitty* July 30, 2017 at 11:48 am Good luck! I was so much happier after the operation. But I was surprised at the length of full recovery — even several weeks later, I got tired easily. Take it easy on yourself!
Surrogate Tongue Pop* July 30, 2017 at 1:15 pm Thank you, I am definitely looking forward to some relief. I’m going to take it easy for sure. Great excuse not to do the never ending yard work :)
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 2:40 pm I was told to try sherbet to start with after the surgery. I got a little pint of orange sherbet (my favorite) and it eased me back into eating. Before the operation, I could barely eat at all—that’s how I knew something was wrong, because I never lose my appetite. The first few days were rough, because I hated the hydrocodone they had me on. But DO NOT TRY TO WEAN YOURSELF OFF PAIN MEDS BEFORE YOU ARE READY. You need good pain control to heal. I felt better in about a week and back to myself after about two weeks. Good luck!! :)
Surrogate Tongue Pop* July 30, 2017 at 2:48 pm I will procure some sherbet today, thanks for the tip! I have some icee pops of different fruit flavors as well, but sherbet sounds delicious.
Surrogate Tongue Pop* July 31, 2017 at 3:01 pm I’m in and out via Express Lane! In at 6 am out by 9:15am, home by 10:15 after stopping for meds. Thanks for all the solid advice and well wishes!
JayeRaye* July 29, 2017 at 11:26 pm Happy weekend! Does anyone know of any good cake recipes that are both dairy and soy free? The little is turning 1 soon and I’d love for her to be able to do the Baby Cupcake Smash, but she’s sensitive to dairy and soy until further notice. On the upside, these sensitivities (and some sensitive skin) seem to be the only issues arising from her being a preemie, so hooray for that! On another note, I never knew how many foods contain dairy and/or soy. Reading food labels has been quite a shock.
all aboard the anon train* July 30, 2017 at 12:43 am I’d check out Minimalist Baker. Her recipes are all dairy-free since she’s lactose intolerant and you can usually swap out the soy ingredients for non-soy (so, almond milk instead of soy milk). Her blog is all about easy recipes that are 10 ingredients or less. Her recipe for Funfetti cupcakes can easily be made into a cake. I’ve done it before for my vegan friends and my brothers, and the cake tastes delicious and just like real funfetti cake.
all aboard the anon train* July 30, 2017 at 12:43 am The recipe: https://minimalistbaker.com/one-bowl-vegan-funfetti-cupcakes/
Lo Squared* July 30, 2017 at 10:25 am https://www.google.com/amp/www.epicurious.com/recipes/member/views/6-minute-chocolate-cake-1209446/amp This is honestly my go-go chocolate cake (I usually make it as cupcakes, take about 14 minutes to bake) and I am not vegan, dairy-free, etc. They are just that good!
Lo Squared* July 30, 2017 at 10:26 am I posted a link so my other post is awaiting moderation. But Google “Six minute chocolate cake”. It’s my go to chocolate cake, even though I don’t have any food restrictions!
CAA* July 30, 2017 at 10:45 am Angel food cake is both dairy and soy free. It’s just flour, sugar, salt, egg whites and vanilla. You really need an electric mixer to beat the egg whites though. Add 1/4 cup of colored sprinkles before baking to make a confetti cake. This was always my birthday cake as a kid, so I have a soft spot for a good angel food confetti cake. Carrot cake is dairy free because it uses veg oil instead of butter for the fat and there’s typically no milk. Just pick a soy-free oil and don’t put cream cheese frosting on the finished cake, and you’re good.
self employed* July 30, 2017 at 1:50 pm Search for “wacky cake.” Very easy and actually vegan, if that’s a bonus. It is delicious!
Saturnalia* July 30, 2017 at 2:03 pm Haha, should have refreshed before posting! Wacky cake lovers unite!
Saturnalia* July 30, 2017 at 2:02 pm There’s an old depression era recipe called Wacky Cake that is egg, dairy, and soy free. It makes great cupcakes, I think the simple ingredients really let the chocolate flavor shine. Also, I promise you don’t taste the vinegar in the final product. It’s just there for the chemical reactions.
JayeRaye* July 31, 2017 at 10:25 am Thank you all so much! Since neither DH nor I have any specific food issues this has been a bit of a learning curve for both of us. Special thanks to Chaordic One for telling me about the Earth Balance sticks. I had no idea such things existed! (I grew up near Wisconsin. Any kind of butter/milk/ice cream/custard substitute was simply not done.) I appreciate all the help, and I am now off to make the rounds of my neighborhood grocery stores to see what I can find. Thank you!
Anon here yet again* July 30, 2017 at 12:22 am Is there a way to handle people who seem to have an issue with you, yet they won’t discuss it? I ran into an old friend at a wedding, and she seemed nice…. at first. She then alternated between being friendly and being upset/disgusted by something. (Making weird facial expressions, sounds, etc.) It wasn’t the time nor the place to discuss it, but somehow *I* feel bad. I just handled it by ignoring it and continued to be friendly, but I still feel weird about it. Now, assuming her issue is with me, is ignoring it the right thing to do? Is there ever a situation where you can call someone out on such behavior? Or somehow ask if they have a problem or issue with something? I’m really not good at any of this stuff, so any advice is much appreciated.
TL -* July 30, 2017 at 2:08 am Ignore it unless she says something really rude. Then you can just respond with, “Wow.” Or, “That was incredibly rude, actually, [and I’d appreciate it if you dropped the subject.]” Or, “Okay, you seem really frustrated/upset by this, and I’m going to go elsewhere” and then leave. Depends on the severity, but I would not reward her passive-aggressive behaviour by giving it attention/acknowledgement and especially not by trying to apologize or make up for whatever your wrong was. Her whole point of behaving like this is to make you feel bad and make you do all the emotional work of figuring out what’s wrong and why she’s upset and how you can make it better and that’s just bull. Option 2 is “Wow, you seem really upset by something. You keep on making unpleasant faces and sighing/rolling your eyes. Is everything okay?” But I use that option for people who are not normally like that – people who are acting out of character that I am genuinely concerned about.
Not So NewReader* July 30, 2017 at 8:12 am You can’t handle people who will not address an issue openly with you. Until she shares what is going on there is not much you can do about it. Trying not to sound like an armchair discussion, I have a friend with Turret’s. Just like you are saying, odd facial gestures and odd sounds. I don’t mean to say that your friend has Turret’s, my main point is some times something else is going on that has absolutely NOTHING to do with us. Depending on the age of the person there were scripts on the market that caused people to have uncontrolled tics or other odd behaviors. I have seen these side effects in people also. I see less of that now, though. I had a prof who used to lick the roof of her mouth while talking. At that time, there was a drug on the market that caused people to do that.
Trixie* July 30, 2017 at 12:23 am New Amazon Fire tablet owner here with questions. I am adding an extended protection to my purchase. With this in mind, do I still need screen protector? I’m assuming yes but maybe not. I’m also looking at a cover so it’s easier to handle when reading books. Again, optional purchase but seems helpful for $15. Just exhausted looked at different styles/vendors.
Detective Amy Santiago* July 30, 2017 at 2:24 am If you have a Five Below near you, I’d suggest going there to get a cover.
anon24* July 30, 2017 at 2:53 pm I’m not terribly familiar with the new fire tablets but I have a first generation fire tablet and Amazon used some crazy glass as the screen (it was listed as a feature). I still have it, although I only keep it for my little sister to use when she visits, and the screen still looks brand new. I’ve never had a screen protector on it. I even once threw my very overloaded keyring across the room and it landed on the screen and didn’t do a thing to it. If you can find out if they still use that glass I wouldn’t bother with a protector.
Sylvia* July 30, 2017 at 12:31 am I thought of you all and your MCM commiseration as soon as this happened: My first college buddy has started selling makeup. IT BEGINS.
amanda_cake* July 30, 2017 at 11:20 pm It works is blowing up my facebook timeline. Like oh my goodness.
Sylvia* July 30, 2017 at 11:41 pm This stuff is crazy. How does It Works spread? Did your friends recruit each other? I have no idea how this girl started selling makeup. She’s been critical of that entire industry for years.
Chaordic One* July 30, 2017 at 1:17 am Tell me about it! (You might have seen my comments to Accidental Analyst above.) I’m sorry I don’t have any good recipes that I’ve actually tried, but you’ll find several if you google “soy-free and dairy free cake recipes.” If you live in the States, I’d recommend using a conventional recipe and then substituting “Earth Balance” Soy Free Buttery Sticks for margarine or butter. When I’ve run out of the sticks, I have subsituted “Earth Balance” Soy Free Buttery Spread. I find it at my local Safeway Grocery Store (owned by Albertsons) and also at WalMart. Not all “Earth Balance products are soy-free, so be sure to pay attention to the labels. The ones in the red packaging are usually the soy-free ones. Another good substitute is “Spectrum” shortening, but I have to get this at my local health food store. I also substitute lactose-free milk for regular milk and cream (there are several different brands, including lower-priced store brands) at all the grocery stores in my area. I really hope this is something that she’ll outgrow. Good luck!
Saturnalia* July 30, 2017 at 2:07 pm Ooh on this topic, I occasionally use coconut oil instead of earth balance when I run out. It’s not quite the same (harder to cream with the hand blender for cookies), but fits the soy/dairy free bill. I usually do cakes with liquid fat, cookies with solid fat.
Jbelly* July 30, 2017 at 10:03 am Ethical question: a cashier accidentally didn’t ring up one of my purchases. The item costs $25. My total bill came to $135 so I didn’t notice the missing charge until later that evening. Should I call/return to the store and let them know or should I just let it go?
StudentA* July 30, 2017 at 11:42 am Definitely let them know. You never know, they could be looking for it. (I am in retail).
tigerStripes* July 31, 2017 at 12:03 am Let them know. For one thing, $25 is cheap compared to feeling guilty about it.
Feline* July 30, 2017 at 11:46 am I ghosted a long time friend and feel very relieved that she is not in my life anymore. Before anyone gets all “that’s the easy way out,” I want to say that it was the only way out for me for reasons that are too long to get into here. Just wondering if anyone else had a similar experience?
Not So NewReader* July 30, 2017 at 12:40 pm Yep. There are various setting where quietly walking away is preferable. A good example would be where two people just get on each other’s nerves just in normal conversation. This is where neither person can say anything without it bringing on a much longer, belabored discussion. Another example, would be an unbalanced relationship where one person takes and takes and takes, yet has nothing to give. In this example a simple phone call can result in the second person having a three day to-do list and/or the second person’s needs/concerns are never a priority, ever. In my own life I had personal tragedy A, B and C. Person X seemed not to notice and still expected me to devote huge amounts of time talking through their life problems with them. Nope. Done. I had to stop and take care of my own setting before that fell to pieces also.
Lily Evans* July 30, 2017 at 3:52 pm I ghosted a friend not entirely on purpose. It was one of those friendships where I did all of the planning hang-outs, always texted first, and I was just so tired of it. So I just stopped texting her and figured if she wanted to be friends still, she’d have to be the one to reach out next. And she never did. I definitely didn’t lose too much sleep over it!
Anon attorney* July 30, 2017 at 5:02 pm That’s exactly where I am with a friend just now. I’m feeling really sad about it, but I’m just done with being the only person making an effort in the relationship. I feel like I should say something to her about it rather than ghost, but really, how difficult can it be to realise that you need to initiate at least some of the time? I’m saying to myself that I need to make room for people who actually care about me, but… I’m sad :(
Lily Evans* July 30, 2017 at 7:15 pm If you’re upset over it, it might be worth reaching out one last time. There definitely are reasons why she might not have noticed that you had an unfair amount of planning burden in the friendship, from social anxiety to having a really busy schedule or, yes, just being pretty self-involved. Like the OP, I felt relieved to be away from the friendship I was talking about. If you don’t want to lose the friendship, you could reach out with something like, “Hey friend, I’ve been busy lately but miss you! Is there anything you’d like to get together for soon?” or “I feel like I’m always choosing things to do, is there anything that you’re interested in doing together?” A lot of the friendships I have now are a volley back and forth for who’s turn it is to suggest plans, so with any luck you could get to that point with her. Or if it still doesn’t happen, you’ll know that you tried before ghosting.
fposte* July 30, 2017 at 7:13 pm I think there’s a difference between drifting and ghosting, even if it’s not always a clear difference to everybody involved. Not getting around to contacting somebody who could perfectly well contact you is just drifting.
Chaordic One* July 30, 2017 at 5:00 pm I ghosted one of my best friends from college. She was really there for me when I needed someone in college, but afterwards she and I just evolved in different directions. She came from a very conservative Christian family and, while she seemed cool with things in college, afterwards she regressed socially. I was put off by some of her ignorant ideas about religion (Roman Catholicism in particular, which admittedly has its problems and with which I don’t necessary agree with on lots of issues) and about LGBT people. The last time I heard from her was about then years ago when she had sent me an email asking for my help in figuring out how to use HTML so she could set up a website in which she planned to disprove the theory of evolution. I never responded and I’ve since changed my email address and moved across the country.
Felicia* July 30, 2017 at 7:12 pm I have. It wasn’t my first choice, but she was the type of person where it was the only way, and I had tried to tell her I think we should take a break from each other and she immediately went on the attack demanding to know why and telling me to stop being mean to her. Sometimes it’s ok to do a thing that’s the safest and best for yourself. It’s ok that it’s a relief and I’ve never regretted my ghosting decision
Menacia* July 31, 2017 at 10:32 am I did the same to a friend who was really not a friend but just put up with me, and because I was in a vulnerable state, I put up with her being pretty mean to me. What is ironic is that when I ghosted, she tried to reach out to me. I ignored it because she really hurt me a great deal, and felt the need to just move on. I was never strong enough to confront her about her behavior towards me, out of fear of losing her as a friend, when I gained more confidence in myself, I realized I did not need a friend like her.
i cannot get any more anon* July 30, 2017 at 12:27 pm So, I have a weird question: I am just getting into kinky stuff since this spring, and tonight I am going to a casual, non-sexy-stuff-doing dinner meetup for similarly interested people in my age cohort. But for a metro area, it’s a bit small and insular- and some colleagues of mine live in the neighborhood of the restaurant, everyone knows everyone, etc. So what should I do if it turns out I see someone I know or worse, work with, either also at the dinner for kinky people or just running into me?
fposte* July 30, 2017 at 1:13 pm If they’re not at the the group, treat it like any other encounter with workmates out and about. “Hey, good to see you! I’ll talk to you Monday–getting back to my friends.” If they’re at the meetup, what is it that you would want to come out of this? Are you hoping they’ll pretend they haven’t seen you? Do you want to have it be a low-key but connection-acknowledged thing? Do you want a blossoming friendship that allows you to talk through this with somebody you know? In general, I wouldn’t seek them out and I’d go for a slightly warmer than a stranger “Hi” and see where they take it if you end up in a convo. Be alert to your own preferences as well as theirs–even if they want to bond with you immediately doesn’t mean that you have to.
i cannot get any more anon* July 30, 2017 at 2:29 pm Thanks! Mainly I just don’t want people gossiping about how I must be having an affair, or assuming I’m a sleazeball- because although I am married, my spouse is not as interested in that sort of thing, and we are open in the sense that we can casually see others. I’m sure I’m overthinking this, but I don’t want to explain to someone I would see regularly at work or etc., exactly what arrangement I have and that yes, it is okay. Awkward!
fposte* July 30, 2017 at 3:44 pm People who aren’t attending the same event aren’t going to know what you’re there for, and people who are can’t consider you a sleazeball without considering themselves the same. Go and have a great time.
Pressured to come out* July 30, 2017 at 2:32 pm Background: I’m trans (ftm), and have started hormones, have come out to all the close friends that I care to, and have a plan to come out at work to the whole company in the next few weeks. Everyone, including work, has been very supportive so far. The only group left I haven’t come out to yet is my parents. I have two friends who are pressuring me to come out to them, and it’s really starting to piss me off. They’re both gay, and came out to friends and family as teenagers. But both of them have very accepting families who were supportive of them even when the rest of the world wasn’t. My family isn’t accepting. At all. My father is a raging homophobe, misogynist, racist… come up with an ugly statement about a person or group and he’ll probably agree. He never accepted me when I was a child, so I’m not expecting anything from him but an explosion of hate. He mostly ignores/forgets about me now because I am beyond his control. My mother has dismissed and ignored how my father treated me my whole life, and will happily pretend she knows nothing to avoid conflict with him. I’m also tired of enabling their abusive relationship by being my mother’s sole contact with the outside world, but that’s a different issue. I’m also on the other side of the country from my parents, and I haven’t seen them in almost 3 years. So I haven’t had to come out to them at all to this point. And I feel like it’s my choice when that happens. But to my friends, it’s outrageous that I haven’t come out to them at this point. Am I off base?
AnonAcademic* July 30, 2017 at 2:44 pm No. People with no experience with abusive family members often have no idea the type of boundaries some people need to set to feel safe. Do what you need to do to feel safe and don’t fall for your friends postcard imaginings of your family. You know them and you best.
Elizabeth West* July 30, 2017 at 2:49 pm Nope, not at all. It’s your call to make when to let them know, not your friends. It sounds like they’re stuck on looking at your situation through their filter, and that can be hard to mitigate. Sometimes people want to control others’ experience in the way they have controlled their own. But you can’t really do that. If it were me, the next time they start badgering you, I’d say, “I appreciate your support; however, my parents are the polar opposite of yours, and I am not close to them. I do not want them to know at this time. Thanks for understanding.”
Temperance* July 30, 2017 at 3:13 pm I have no experience with coming out, but I can relate to the unsupportive family piece. Your friends can’t relate. It’s outrageous to them because they have nice families, and they can’t image any other reality.
LizB* July 30, 2017 at 3:28 pm Hell no you’re not off base. I think your friends are falling into the trap that people who come from functional families often do, where someone who comes from a dysfunctional family tells them “I’m not doing X because ABC will happen” based on long years of experience and it just does not compute for the person with the functional family that ABC could ever be the result. Each of us learns how families function from our own family, so in their head anything called a family would never do ABC because their own family wouldn’t. It’s frustratingly common. But on top of that, your friends are being assholes from a queer-community perspective, because coming out is a super personal and potentially difficult thing. In the queer spaces I frequent, it’s always been acknowledged that everyone needs to come out on their own terms, in their own time, and nobody should do it for someone else or pressure someone else to move up their timeline. Do you have any mutual friends or mentors in your community who can talk some sense into your friends?
Pressured to come out* July 30, 2017 at 7:21 pm Thanks. I don’t think they come from fully functional families, but I never got the impression that their families had issues with people of other genders, sexualities, races, classes, etc. Maybe that’s where the disconnect comes from. If you ignore all the awfulness, my family looks pretty functional and normal from the outside. They actually don’t live in my physical community anymore, so I don’t know anyone else who knows them both anymore. I guess I’ll have to be the one who knocks some sense into them.
Not So NewReader* July 30, 2017 at 3:59 pm Ideas: Ask them why they want to set you up for more years of abuse. OR Ask them why this is important to them. OR Just say, “I think you mean well. But you do not understand just how UNsafe this is for me to do this. I would like us to stop talking about it.” Then you have done the setup for if they mention it again. “I asked that we not talk about that and I really mean it.”
all aboard the anon train* July 30, 2017 at 7:34 pm You’re so not off base. As LizB says, your friends are committing a big faux pas in the queer community. There’s a lot of people, both allies and LGBT individuals, who are of the mindset that everyone should come out and don’t realize that not everyone wants to come out. That sometimes it’s not about shame over your identity, but being private, knowing you won’t be accepted by certain people, etc. That sometimes it’s not going to make you feel better or more relieved to come out to someone, and will only make you feel worse. Coming out is really personal and very different for each person, and I really dislike the people who don’t understand or respect that. Pressuring someone or outing them is really awful. Can you tell them to knock it off and that it’s none of their business who you decide to come out to? Because it really isn’t any of their business. They can support you, but they shouldn’t be forcing you to do something you’re not comfortable with. That’s not being a good, supportive friend.
Observer* July 30, 2017 at 8:01 pm It sounds to me like you need to re-asses your relationship with these folks. If you have given them the basics of your background and they are still pressuring you, I don’t think they are really good friends.
extra anon* July 30, 2017 at 3:49 pm I’m late to the party but I may as well ask! I am interested in learning American Sign Language, but none of the courses offered near me start until September, and I’ll have time off in August to dedicate to things that aren’t work and I would like this to be one of them. Does anyone have any good online ASL classes that I could work through before taking an in-person class in September, or any tips, tricks and insights into learning ASL? I’ve learned other languages that are completely different from English, but I’ve never tried to learn any type of sign language.
Cruciatus* July 30, 2017 at 4:20 pm I can’t remind anything specifically, but my local library system has books and videos and yours may too. A friend of mine got good enough to at least have simple conversations by doing this. And don’t discount the books for kids! That’s mostly what she used.
Cruciatus* July 30, 2017 at 4:23 pm Remind = recommend. My fingers and brain sometimes don’t always match up!
Mimmy* July 30, 2017 at 5:40 pm I wish I’d gone that route! My husband got me a DVD set a few Christmases ago called “Learn and Master” (he has the guitar lessons from the same company). The lessons are very comprehensive and I think I’ve retained more than through any other learning system. However, it’s almost TOO thorough. I almost wish they’d made two volumes – one to learn beginning concepts, vocabulary and simple sentences or phrases for common topics (family, school, work, emergencies) then a second volume for more advanced concepts and dialogues.
Chaordic One* July 30, 2017 at 5:04 pm I would just go to “Youtube” and google “learning ASL”. All sorts of things will pop up and I’m sure there must be at least a couple that are good. It is also helpful to learn from more than one individual because everyone does it a little differently.
Mimmy* July 30, 2017 at 5:47 pm I love ASL – as I mentioned in reply to Cruciatus, I’ve been learning through a set of DVDs that my husband got me for Christmas a few years ago. As you probably know already, the grammar and sentence structure of ASL is very different from English, which can be tricky to grasp. They say that it’s helpful to have people to practice with–the instructors on the DVD suggests visiting with Deaf clubs, but I’m not brave enough to do that. The in-person classes will be helpful – I may look into that myself.
Kristen* July 30, 2017 at 5:45 pm I’m finally doing it. I’m tired of struggling to think of what to make for dinner during the week when it’s time to go to the grocery store. I’m finally making a master list of dinner ideas. Right now, I’m just using Excel to create separate lists based on whether the recipe cooks on the stove, oven, or grill. If anyone has taken on this issue themselves, tips are welcome. I apologize in advance if this is the most boring thing you read all week.
fposte* July 30, 2017 at 5:56 pm It involves spreadsheets and food. To me that’s riveting :-). I love the meal planner template at vertex42 dot com. I actually use it mostly for bento now, since I customized it for that, but you can edit dropdown lists for different elements of the menu and put in stuff you actually will buy, cook, and eat in each category. I like to make them different colors, because it’s a toy and why not?
and Peggy* July 30, 2017 at 6:17 pm Back in mid-May I posted asking about the ups and downs and things you wish you’d known about living alone (linked in my name). I’ve been living alone in my tiny studio for two weeks now and it’s going okay :)
Not So NewReader* July 30, 2017 at 7:20 pm Yea! This means you did a good job setting yourself up and you chose well. Congrats.
Shoving survivor* July 30, 2017 at 7:31 pm How do you move on after having napalmed a bridge with someone you loved, who cold shouldered you, who you tried to get back with, and who you then shoved out of your life for your own sanity, and realize that the shoving has badly scarred your own heart, because it turned you into a monster?
fposte* July 30, 2017 at 7:59 pm Therapy. Realizing that we all hurt each other and we’re not monsters. Realizing that scars are a part of life and everybody has them. Looking forward instead of looking back. Being gentle with human, including yourself.
Be the Change* July 30, 2017 at 10:47 pm Forgiveness. I’m sorry, dear fellow walker-of-life, for your pain. Therapy will help, as fposte says.
Stellaaaaa* July 30, 2017 at 11:50 pm Sometimes something makes you a better person but it’s still not worth it. You can’t go back or take it back. Eventually it’ll be in the rear view.