updates: the moldy food, sharing the wealth, and more

by Alison Green on December 8, 2020

It’s “where are you now?” month at Ask a Manager, and all December I’m running updates from people who had their letters here answered in the past. Here are four updates from past letter-writers.

1. Our coworker has filled the office fridge with old, moldy food and refuses to toss it

A few things happened after – one is the plastic bags ended up causing the fridge to die and everything inside had to be thrown out. This really upset the hoarder who asked the office for compensation for food lost. We were all given lunch for two days after, which most were happy with except for the hoarder.

I suggested to my boss that we have a clean out schedule but he didn’t want to assign this to anyone, even with the problems. So the bags started building back up.

We moved to a new building though after a couple months, and had to share a new fridge with more departments. So finally the boss started a once a month cleanout schedule for the fridge where everything except condiments had to go. Volunteer based, two people each time, and buying lunch for those who volunteered to do the cleaning as an incentive. This worked!! We didn’t have any more hoarding issues after that!

Now the only fridge problems I deal with are my own due to working from home. Thanks for your help!

2. Company said they’d base my job offer on my current salary

I just wanted to let you know that I successfully used a version of the language you suggested. I never provided my current salary but said that I had taken my then-job with a small, local company because of the geographical constraints I had at the time (which no longer applied), and that my compensation reflected that. I then gave an estimate of what I felt was reasonable for the role and geography. The company simply responded that they agreed with my assessment, and although they said at the time that they would still like to see proof of my current salary for their records, they didn’t push it. Looking back, I suppose I could have asked for a bit more, but it’s still a 20% increase compared to my previous salary and they said they would be open to reviewing it after 6 months. Thank you very much for your help!

3. How can I “spread the wealth” of informational interviews? (#3 at the link)

Thanks for taking my question about spreading the wealth of informational interviews earlier this year!

There were a lot of suggestions in the comments that were fabulous, but not useful for our specific field, or maybe really great for a different community. (For example, local high schools in our city do not want random adults to offer to talk to students about jobs. Also, my career knowledge is pretty geographically specific, and there’s no HBCUs nearby. There are tribal colleges though!). I appreciated everyone being so engaged with the question of a random stranger.

Here’s one positive step I was able to take- we are currently hiring, and I convinced my boss that we should tell staff not to do informational interviews on work time, but to instead direct people to a public webinar. (They could still do informational interviews on their own time if they wanted.) We posted about the webinar in lots of places online, included it with the job listings, and shared with several professional groups, including the local group for professionals of color in our field. We had 25 people attend and it was a pretty diverse group. My colleague and I put together a slide show, and talked for about half an hour about the company and the open jobs, then participants had half an hour to ask questions. We recorded it and posted it on our website so people could check it out later too. Several webinar attendees have gone on to Round 1 interviews, and we will see how it all shakes out! If other folks take up this practice, I will recommend that you work out your plan for recording the webinar in advance in a way that doesn’t doxx your participants as job seekers (Because I almost did that. Yikes.).

This was just the first doable thing for me and I look forward to putting more of the ideas into practice in the future.

4. Talking about mental health issues at work (#4 at the link)

It’s been a couple years since I wrote in about discussing mental health in the workplace (time really flies!) but I’ve been thinking about it recently, and thought I’d send an update.

First off, I took your advice and kept my health issues vague, and boy was that ever the right call. I told them I had a medical condition that left me very fatigued, which was mostly true – I had started new antidepressants that caused months of exhaustion while my body got used to them. I received permission to work from home three days a week, which was great! Less great was the realization that my team was deeply toxic and I’d been too sick to notice. They micromanaged and mismanaged. Our VP regularly yelled at her direct reports in the middle of the office. I kept getting opportunities yanked because I’d “been sick,” even months after returning to my old high performance. Talking with team members showed that everyone was feeling defeated, and within a six month period half the team left.

The good news! The meds work. I bought a house and adopted two cats. The toxicity at my workplace was really only in that specific team, which became clear when my company had a frankly phenomenal reaction to COVID. They moved us to remote work early, have been giving everyone a no-questions-asked monthly stipend to make work from home easier, gave us all an extra week of “personal wellness” time to take off, and have been donating to local organizations that support homeless people through the pandemic. I took an opportunity to move into a new area, and it’s been amazing. I’ve been encouraging my old teammates to look for other opportunities in the company as well, because for once the grass actually is greener.

When I wrote to you in 2018 I was feeling desperate, and you helped me feel like I wasn’t alone. I devoured your job hunting advice while applying to my current role, and continue to read your site every day, and I’m just so grateful. Thank you, Alison!

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  1. CatCat*

    On #1, “So finally the boss started a once a month cleanout schedule for the fridge where everything except condiments had to go. Volunteer based, two people each time, and buying lunch for those who volunteered to do the cleaning as an incentive. ”

    I just want to say that I think this is a great approach. Cleaning the fridge blows. Pretty much no one WANTS to do it and some don’t have time to do it. So providing a nice incentive to get volunteers is smart.

    1. Diahann Carroll*

      I worked for a law firm that gave us proprietary “vendor bucks” to use in our vending machines if you volunteered to clean the break room every Friday – it wasn’t much ($3/week), but it was nice to not have to spend my own money on snacks (especially since I don’t typically carry cash and we weren’t allowed to leave the building outside of our lunch break).

    2. whistle*

      Agreed. And I think the incentive is just right – not so large that you have people arguing over who gets to clean it but large enough that it feels like you got something for cleaning the fridge.

      1. General von Klinkerhoffen*

        Someone who really really doesn’t want to do it (maybe sensory issues or germphobic) isn’t going to be swayed by the compensation, but someone who doesn’t mind will feel mollified by it. Also, if it’s regular and frequent, it will become a relatively trivial chore. I think this part was well handled.

        1. Mongrel*

          I worked too long in kitchens and hate cleaning fridges, I despise mouldy food and poor food hygiene though so would be the one cleaning it at our small office, I’d certainly have appreciated a free meal or two
          I had a simple system of taking a picture in situ and sending it to the office manager. Uncontained food would just get chucked as it’s affecting everything in the fridge, sealed in a container would get an e-mail sent out and a bright Post-it attached to it then a couple of days grace before being chucked, container and all.

          Cross contamination is not something to muck around with and mould spores can be buggers to eradicate in food processing, especially in an office kitchen environment.

    4. JustaTech*

      Having been a volunteer fridge cleaner in a couple of places, I really, really appreciate that my company pays our day porter to clear out the fridge every month (every Friday? I haven’t put anything in there in so long I don’t remember). It’s a paid part of the cleaner’s job, and no one has any standing to get mad if something gets thrown out because the sign is right there on the door and you’d look a prime jerk yelling at the cleaner.

      But we also have a brand-new fridge (recently renovated office) and very few people using it, so it’s easy to keep it clean. And we’re a bunch of biologists, so the few times it did get bad we put up a sign “No experiments in the fridge” and people got the message.

      1. TardyTardis*

        My husband got his own mini-fridge at school because, sadly, the biology teachers didn’t always label stuff.

  2. Not All*

    Buying lunch for the people who do the fridge cleanout may be the best handling of that task I’ve heard of! Way to incentivize it!

    1. KayDeeAye*

      It’s kind of genius! If we ever start going to the office on a regular basis, I’m going to suggest this to our office manager.

  3. JelloStapler*

    Did LW #1’s hoarder actually think they were going to eat the moldy food they lost by the fridge dying??

    3. whistle*

      This is very typical of hoarding behavior. It is not logical. I once tried to help clean the house of hoarder after she had indicated she was finally ready for help. I spent my time in the kitchen throwing out expired food. I set up her pantry with only unopened food that was not past the best-buy date. She came in and saw all the bags of food I was about to throw out and said “What am I supposed to eat?” Never mind that she was never going to eat this expired food. Never mind that she could now actually get to her pantry, and oven, and sink to prepare and eat food that was not expired. Hoarding is a nasty disease that is as hard to overcome as drug addiction.

      2. Dust Bunny*

        I have a relative who is nowhere near this bad but definitely has food-saving leanings. I get where it comes from–she never went hungry but her mother hated to cook and they never had anything but the most basic, bland, food at home, so she always wants to hold onto anything even remotely special–but it’s frustrating as Hell to have her save boxes of something she wants to eat, while also buying other food to eat instead of it so she can save it. Until well past its best-by date.

      3. Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Curtain*

        yes this. Most mental health issues are not logical and trying to cram them into logical boxes won’t help. She might very well have decided moldy food she MIGHT have to eat if catastrophe happened was a more safe/secure feeling than “no food.”

    4. Keymaster of Gozer*

      Confession: I was once a hoarder (during the first time my schizophrenia flared up).

      It’s not about eating the food, per se, it’s that you’re convinced that there is some ‘use in the future’ for it and you’ll regret removing that use. Or that the object itself will get upset if you throw it away and you don’t want to make anyone sad, even a piece of bread.

      I still anthropomorphise objects to this day, but I’m usually limited to my car, computer and my books. Medication and a whole heap of psychiatric help was needed. (I was pretty bad, hoarding gross waste in bowls level. But it was a symptom of untreated schizophrenia and luckily once that got treated I got better)

      1. MCMonkeyBean*

        That’s really interesting, I haven’t heard that part of hoarding can come from anthropomorphizing but that makes sense! I do that to a very small extent (like if I pick up a stuffed animal to buy and then notice half the fur was sewn on in the wrong direction, I would buy it anyway because it feels mean to put it back and buy a different one).

        2. Keymaster of Gozer*

          I’ve been banned from buying any more cuddly toys because I always had to when I saw one that had been put back multiple times. When the toy collection was pushing the husband unit out of bed it was time to stop!

          (Have to have some cuddly toys in bed. Intellectually I’m 43. Emotionally I’m apparently a kid)

      2. Jennifer Thneed*

        Keymaster, THANK YOU for sharing this. We know you here, which makes this even more useful to us since you’re not actually some complete internet rando (but also could make it slightly more scary to you, I know).

        I anthropomorphise objects too. I really doubt that my shoes are going to wander away when I take them off, but it still amuses me to tell them “stay” as I put them on the floor. And my knitting, of course, sometimes needs a time-out to think about things before we rip it back and try again.

        1. Keymaster of Gozer*

          No worries and I embroider and know full well that ‘I have to completely trash that section. Need 2 cups of tea and a computer game diversion first so I don’t apologise to it’.

          Yesterday I felt the need to be sad over chucking out some bread that I’d left to go hard. One doctor treated me the same as she did for my OCD (I collect mental illnesses like Pokemon) for that and I’m a lot better at diverting myself away from the hoarder route again.

          Besides, I’m married with a cat these days and I know it’ll either annoy the husband to have piles of trash everywhere or the cat will think “hey! Another litter box!”.

  4. Manic Pixie HR Girl*

    I am dying at LW1’s hoarder. Honestly, she wanted compensation of food lost? She’s lucky she wasn’t billed for replacing the fridge!

    1. Ripley Jones*

      Yes! Seriously though, the office fridge is not for long term storage of a stash of food (even non-mouldy food ;) ). Especially in cases where the whole office shares, it should be that you bring your lunch and put it in the fridge until lunchtime (or in cases where something happens that you don’t get to eat it today, it can stay until tomorrow), a few condiments that anyone can use (or else you’d get 20 bottles of salad dressing and mustard) and that’s it. It’s not your kitchen, it’s just somewhere to keep today’s lunch cold so you don’t get food poisoning.

      1. MaudForbid*

        Right? I used to feel guilty when I’d sneak a roast or a chicken I’d bought at lunch at the grocery on sale into the freezer until end of day when I’d then take home to freeze. Then I’d see people who had 12 yoghurts and 6 Hungry Man dinners in the fridge, and think, “You know, maybe I’m neurotic about my work freezer use…”.

  5. Jules the 3rd*

    Update 3: ooooo! Maybe Alison could do a post on best practices

    Update 4: daaaaaaanggggg. That’s really awesome.

  6. JelloStapler*

    Update 4- That is amazing, I’d love to work somewhere like that! We got a pay cut and have been working even harder. That said, they’ve done their best – the higher education industry is under a lot of stress right now.

  7. Not A Girl Boss*

    The BEST perk of 2020, hands down, is not having to share a communal fridge/kitchen for lunch.

    I have been eating fresh egg and cheese sandwiches and a latte every day for weeks. Amazing.

    1. Super Duper Anon*

      Totally agree. I love being able to eat all kinds of foods that I normally wouldn’t be able to bring to work for either transportation logistic issues (I walk and only have so much fridge space at work) or smell considerations. It has been nice to experiment with different lunches.

    2. Kimmy Schmidt*

      I have been loving my grilled cheese lunches, where before I mostly did leftovers and cold sandwiches.

    3. New Job So Much Better*

      Agree! Fresh eggs and bacon on a warm low carb tortilla, straight from my kitchen.

        1. NotQuiteAnonForThis*

          Does this mean there’s going to be a de-programming need for when we do go back to the office? (Cringing. We have a particular fish-microwaving-offender. I swear he tries to make it the smelliest fish possible!!!)

    5. higheredrefugee*

      I love how relaxing it is to take 15 minutes to make peanut sticky noodles, which never heat up well from leftovers. I thought I’d never work from home, but I can’t wait to maximize teleworking after we all return to whatever the new normal looks like just because I eat so much better.

      And of course just not having to wear real clothes or spending zero time on commuting is pretty awesome too. During the summer, I had enough daylight hours to hike for up to 5ish hours!

    6. lazy intellectual*

      Yep! I have major executive functioning issues that make consistent meal planning, remembering bring my lunch everyday,etc. very difficult. Now I don’t have to – I can just whip up a sandwich when I need to.

  8. Ellen Ripley*

    #3: “If other folks take up this practice, I will recommend that you work out your plan for recording the webinar in advance in a way that doesn’t doxx your participants as job seekers (Because I almost did that. Yikes.).”

    Could you explain this comment? I don’t understand why signing up for the webinar would be visible to anyone else…

    1. kiri*

      I’d imagine that, if the webinar was structured like a Zoom meeting, the participants’ names/faces would potentially be visible in a recording?

    2. BubbleTea*

      If the recording shows thumbnails of participants’ videos with their names, which it might do if you use Zoom with certain setups, it would reveal the participants to anyone who watches back. There are ways to set up not to show the audience, but it’s not the standard setup.

    3. Kes*

      I would assume they mean more in terms of participating, ie if they did a webinar on a zoom call it could show the names and pictures of participants in the call, and especially if people asked questions at any point

    4. Lucette Kensack*

      I participated in a webinar like this recently. They offered the option to log in under a pseudonym (when you registered, it auto-populated their chosen pseudonym — a name related to the organization, like “John Harvard” if you were applying to work at Harvard University) which you could change to your real name/something else if you wanted to do so.

    5. Lime green Pacer*

      I did participated in a mental health drop-in class with 8-10 other people via Zoom a few months ago. It was the first time I’d used Zoom. The default setting was to display full names. I figured out how to change that by my second meeting.

    6. PT*

      Making the title generic, in case they’re participating in it from work? So it’s like “Developing your Skills as a Llama Groomer,” not “Prospective Applicants at Llamacorp.”

      The first title, could just be a generic professional development webinar. The second title, says “Hey I’m applying for jobs at Llamacorp!!”

    7. Guacamole Bob*

      It’s not the viewers of the posted webinar that have to worry, it’s the participants in the live version that will then potentially have their name and face visible in the posted video.

      So, e.g., have your audience not visible and have them submit comments via chat under a pseudonym, rather than having them unmute and turn on video and ask their question that way.

    8. The New Normal*

      I work K-12 and our legal team at our district made it clear that class Zoom meetings could not be distributed. So we are expected to record our classes for discipline and security (in case of zoom bombs) but we cannot provide those recordings to our students or in our Google Classroom because we cannot allow our student names or images to be released. So if I call on a student in class and ask for them to answer the question, that would release their name and voice “publicly”.

      So imagine if you were quietly job-hunting to get away from a toxic job and end up as a named participant in an industry webinar that was targeted to job-hunters. I imagine your toxic boss would have a major issue.

    9. LW #3*

      Hi guys! We did the webinar as a Zoom meeting. Our agenda was structured as:
      30 mins- presentation [recorded]
      30 mins- Q&A [not recorded, both for privacy but also so people felt comfortable asking questions without feeling like they were in an interview]

      We deliberately only recorded the presentation part, and we were careful to only record the presenters and the shared slides. However, we accidentally recorded the chat, which did include some people’s real, full names. Almost posted it online before we realized.
      Zoom makes it very tricky to remove the chat from a finished recording, but we did it.

      It’s not hard at all to record a webinar without showing personal information of attendees, just as long as you understand the settings you are using in advance. It’s not the standard setting on Zoom.

  9. Coffee Cup*

    I know this is beside the point, but whenever I hear stories like #1 I have to wonder what is going on with that person, and also how non-confrontational people are… I would blurt out long before the fridge broke(!), possibly after one of the post-it notes, like “X, the food was 6 months old and moldy. Tell me what you thought you would do with it.” And expect an answer…

    1. Absurda*

      I don’t know about this. If this person is a true hoarder then that’s a type of anxiety disorder and, as mentioned above, isn’t really subject to logic. Confrontation doesn’t work and can make the situation a whooooole lot worse. I’ve watched too many episodes of Hoarding: Buried Alive, I guess*.

      If they’re not a true hoarder with the associated mental health issues, confrontation may work, but it sounds like several people tried it and it didn’t work.

      *On the plus side, watching that show does give me the impulse to clean my house.

        1. X-Man*

          I’m the opposite, I may think, “God it’s a mess in here,” but then after watching Hoarders I think “Actually it’s pretty darn clean!”

          1. RoseDark*

            Yeah, my mom watches for both these reasons. First so she has a reality check on “I never want to get here; what do I need to do to ensure that never happens” and second so she can feel really really good about the state of her house.

      2. Coffee Cup*

        Maybe I am missing something, but I feel like they tried generic and general things like putting up schedules and signs, but no one said “dude you can’t do that” to the person. Obviously if it is a disorder it wouldn’t work to change them, but it really isn’t the responsibility of the others. Keep tossing the food and the post-its…
        I guess I just can’t believe that the manager etc let it go on long enough that the plastic bags blocked the freezer vent and broke the fridge (!!) without so much as a firm private meeting.

        1. Grizabella the Glamour Cat*

          I’ve known managers who were pathologically nonconfrontational, but that manager carried it to the level of an artform!

          People like that really shouldn’t be managers, but lots of things happen that shouldn’t! *throws up hands*

      3. Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Curtain*

        Yes this. Hoarding is a very difficult mental illness to treat and most people’s reactions of just throwing the stuff out will cause real damage to the sufferer. They could require that she keep it in her car or take it home (gross I know, but it’s her car/home). I’m also wondering how plastic bags caused the fridge to break though. I’ve never heard that before. I’ve had fridges break but it’s usually because they are old and worn out, or the compressor fan/coils should have been cleaned.

        1. AcademiaNut*

          In the first posting, it said that the bags were blocking the air vents. If the air isn’t circulating properly, there can be temperature problems, or the s working too hard because cold air isn’t getting to the thermostat.

          If you had plastic dishes or jars, they won’t press up against the vent the same way – it takes something squishy.

          1. Natalie*

            And even with hard-sided containers, overloading a fridge or freezer means putting a lot of wear on the compressor and condenser, which can lead to premature failure. It’s also pretty easy to block the air vents in an overloaded freezer as they’re typically on the floor of the icebox.

          2. JustaTech*

            Yup, this happened to my dorm fridge, in the freezer, and everything had to be thrown out. A few people were mad I threw away their room-temperature raw chicken, but for the most part if anything was labeled the owners had completely forgotten about it and didn’t want it.

      4. Jennifer Thneed*

        More than once I’ve temporarily (like, 3 months) been in a different office than where I worked, and I took it upon myself to do the cleanout. With signs. Like once it was “everything in this box is mustard. Take out your mustard and label it before (day & date at least 2 weeks away). Anything left after that will be thrown out”. That particular one cleared a *lot* of space in the full-sized fridge. And then I got to sit in the breakroom listening to everyone liking the result and wondering who had done the deed, and glowing with self-satisfied happiness. But nobody working there was hoarding bad food, it was just all condiments that people had left behind when they moved on.

    2. JustaTech*

      I think it’s not just that people are non-confrontational but also that it’s a classic case of the tragedy of the commons. If you don’t have a person or group of people specifically in charge of a common area then it never gets taken care of, or only gets taken care of spontaneously when someone hits their breaking point.
      Everyone things “eww, what a mess” but if it’s not their job to clean it and they have other work to do, then the other work will take precedence.

  10. ATM*

    At my work – at least, before COVID required working from home – the staff fridges were cleaned out every Friday by the janitorial staff. There were signs on every fridge reminding people, so it was never a surprise. Is this not common?

    …Is having a janitorial staff at all not common?

    1. Diahann Carroll*

      Some places don’t have them, no. I’ve never worked anywhere without a janitorial staff, but they also weren’t responsible for cleaning out our fridges at any workplace I’ve ever been due to the sheer size of the building and how many break rooms they would have to clean in addition to their regular bathroom/hallway/lobby cleanup.

      1. ATM*

        That makes sense; we have one break room, but it has like 6 fridges, and with the signs, most people remember to get their stuff out.

      2. Clisby*

        I’ve never worked in a place that had a kitchen. A couple had microwaves, but there was no sink or refrigerator, so you could heat up whatever leftovers you had brought in that day (or make popcorn!) Nobody in their right mind would have tried to leave any food overnight.

    2. Jules the 3rd*

      I think it’s that cleaning the fridges is not a default task of janitorial staff. The employer has to specify that one, and many don’t, because Fridge Wars ensue.

    3. Natalie*

      I started my career in commercial property management and the standard janitorial service we provided in our office buildings didn’t cover any kitchen cleaning. It was too uneven between different tenants – one might have no kitchen or a lightly used one, while another tenant might cook a full on dinner in their office space (actual example). Tenants could opt to pay extra for kitchen or even just fridge cleaning, but they rarely did.

    4. Pretzelgirl*

      I’ve only worked one place that did this. Every other place that Ive worked it was up to the employees to manage.

      At my current work place I’ve taken it upon myself to be the fridge cleaner. I post signs on Monday for a Friday clean out. The first time I cleaned the fridge I found yogurt that expired 3 years ago. ::insert emoji puke face::

  12. Half-Caf Latte*

    The hoarder wanted compensation?! What even….

    I’d be pretty ticked if a coworker got a few hundred bucks for:
    1) using the communal fridge in a way it wasn’t intended, which
    2) prevented me from using it in the way intended, and
    3) led to its untimely demise, along with my food in it.

  13. 3DogNight*

    LW 3, genuine question here. Why would you have informational interviews be done on your employees own time? What they are doing benefits your organization, shouldn’t they be paid for it? Or is there some nuance that I am missing?

    1. LW #3*

      Hello! I don’t know if you read my original letter, but what I was finding is that one on one informational interviews, as they were happening here, were actually not a benefit to our organization. We wanted our information for potential new hires to reach a broader pool of people than only the people who were requesting informational interviews.
      That is why we opted for a wider reaching, more accessible webinar; to break down in a small way the barrier of access and privilege that informational interviews can sometimes represent. We did not want to pay staff to perpetuate the same system that we were trying to move beyond; we used our paid staff time instead to put the new system into place.
      We are a consulting firm, so people are pretty used to the company setting firm limits about how to use our finite nonbillable hours. It wasn’t a problem, and our staff were really happy with the webinar. Not everyone actually likes doing informational interviews on top of their regular work and I think people appreciated having a substantive alternative to offer to people who asked about the jobs. People were still welcome to talk to friends or whoever about the job on their own time, and I think a few people did do that.
      Oh goodness, that was a whole essay for a small question. Hope it helps!

  14. JZ*

    re the food hoarder, food doesn’t last forever, even in the fridge or freezer. I can’t believe they kept things so long! Tossing anything past the expiration date is doing them a favor, food poisoning is not pleasant. At any rate, glad to hear that’s resolved, for everyone’s sake.

  15. Sun Tzu*

    LW#2, congratulations!
    Gentle reminder for everybody: the only reason a company asks for your past salary is trying to lowball you.
    Don’t fall for it.

  16. Anonymous At a University*

    I’m glad to hear that the situation in 1 worked out so well!

    I haven’t worked with a hoarder, but I have worked with people who would go absolutely nuts if you threw away their Tupperware or plastic bags with food in them, even with plenty of advance warning, because they wanted the Tupperware or plastic bags back. The system my university has worked out (or had worked out before we started working from home this year) was, “Fridge cleaning happens every Friday by someone paid extra to do so, two weekly warnings are sent out for any container or bag that is visibly moldy or otherwise gross, then your gross package is pitched container and all.” One coworker still threw a fit about a big Tupperware container being thrown away, but she did so six weeks AFTER it had been tossed, and the person who had been paid to clean the fridge was able to show they’d given her an extra two weeks to pick it up, so it had actually been in the fridge for more than a month after starting to mold. If you don’t miss your precious container for three months, I have difficulty believing it was that essential

  17. Former Employee*

    OP#4: Congratulations on the house and the adoption. It reminds me of “Our House” (with 2 cats in the yard).

    Big thumbs up for animal adoption whenever possible. (No pets due to health issues. Instead, I donate to rescues, shelters, etc.)

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