weekend open thread – April 16-17, 2022 by Alison Green on April 16, 2022 This comment section is open for any non-work-related discussion you’d like to have with other readers, by popular demand. Here are the rules for the weekend posts. Book recommendation of the week: The Lifeguards, by Amanda Eyre Ward. Three mothers try to protect their teenage sons when they might be involved in a woman’s suspicious death. I make a commission if you use that Amazon link. You may also like:all of my 2021 book recommendationsall of my 2019 and 2020 book recommendationsall of my book recommendations from 2015-2018 { 1,059 comments }
Dark Macadamia* April 15, 2022 at 11:56 pm What wholesome, lighthearted, or uplifting books have you been reading lately? In the past I’ve often gravitated toward dystopian or wartime historical fiction but I just don’t have the energy for that kind of bleakness right now! I’ll put some of my favorites in a comment :)
Dark Macadamia* April 15, 2022 at 11:57 pm The Tumbling Turner Sisters, Juliette Fay: It has dark aspects to it but overall really enjoyable, think like the circus episode of Bones where you know they’re investigating a death but the setting and characters are fun How to Be Perfect, Mike Schur: funny and accessible exploration of moral philosophy based on his research for The Good Place The Sun is Also a Star, Nicola Yoon: well-written YA romance about fate and possibility Nothing to See Here, Kevin Wilson: woman becomes a nanny to spontaneously combusting twins I Capture the Castle, Dodie Smith: teen girl comes of age in, well, a castle in the 1930s, full of secondhand embarrassment lol Life Among the Savages, Shirley Jackson: humorous motherhood memoir made funnier (to me anyway) by the fact that the setting resembles some of her horror writing
Vio* April 16, 2022 at 7:23 am I cannot recommend Shirley Jackson enough! Even some of her really dark works contain elements of humour and her atmosphere building is incredible, especially The Summer People! on topic though I’d say The Slow Regard Of Silent Things by Patrick Rothfuss. While having read the Kingkiller Chronicles will give it an extra layer, it’s still a fascinating read as a standalone. The story is a day in the life of a woman with a rather OCD-ish condition and, for the most part an optimistic and upbeat attitude.
DataGirl* April 16, 2022 at 9:01 am The Slow Regard of Silent Things is a work of art. Such a beautiful book.
Squidhead* April 16, 2022 at 10:00 am Seconded! I really enjoyed it earlier this year. My go-to when I need familiarity+dry humor+humanity is Terry Pratchett’s Discworld. I do have favorite sub-series within it (The Witch books, the Watch/Vimes books, The Tiffaany Aching YA series) but I’m currently re-reading one of the Big Idea books (Moving Pictures) and it’s like an incantation.
DataGirl* April 16, 2022 at 10:08 am Discworld is so great. I’ve been meaning to re-read the Tiffany series for a while now. I read The Hogfather every December, it’s probably my favorite book of all time. I even have a tattoo of Susan.
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 11:43 am Another vote for Discworld! I’ve enjoyed all the books, though favorites include Guards! Guards!, Witches Abroad (talk about fairytale deconstruction!), Hogfather, and the intense (and largely standalone) Small Gods. Oh, and The Last Continent, in which Rincewind and the totally-awesome Luggage visit the Discworld equivalent of pop-culture Australia. [The book manages to be both hilarious and touching; the nods to the Australian creation myths were really lovely.] Also love the Tiffany Aching books, from her sentient (and angry) cheese to her connection with her beloved Chalk.
DataGirl* April 16, 2022 at 12:22 pm even though Rincewind is one of my less favorite characters (don’t dislike him, just like the others better) The Last Continent is one of my favorite Discworld books. Every single thing about it is just perfection.
allathian* April 17, 2022 at 1:48 am Rincewind is one of my favorite characters, although my top favorite is, without a doubt, The Luggage.
Dark Macadamia* April 16, 2022 at 12:13 pm Thanks for the sub series suggestions – I’ve never read any Discworld books because there are just so many I don’t know where to start lol
one of the meg murrys* April 17, 2022 at 4:58 pm I second that Tiffany Aching sub-series is great and mostly light, though they get a bit heavier as she gets older. Wee Free Men is the first.
anonagain* April 16, 2022 at 9:53 am I love Nothing to See Here. I’m not clicking with any books I’m trying right now so I may re-read it.
Dark Macadamia* April 16, 2022 at 12:11 pm It’s so different from what I expected, in a really good way! So sweet
one of the meg murrys* April 17, 2022 at 5:11 pm I love I Capture The Castle sooo much. The movie is actually really good adaptation IMO and delightful. And great audiobook narrated by Emilia Fox! I think Cold Comfort Farm is vaguely similar in vibe and very funny, though less sincere.
Kyrielle* April 16, 2022 at 12:20 am If you like urban fantasy at all, I recommend Seanan McGuire. Her Incryptid series, starting with Discount Armageddon, is hilarious but also a good read. The Toby Daye series, starting with Rosemary and Rue, is very interesting but a bit darker than Incryptid. (Also, there’s usually one of the first three books someone finds to be less awesome than the others, not always the same one, because those are three very different types of stories.) And her Wayward Children series, starting with Every Heart a Doorway, definitely has some darkness in it but also a lot of hope. Seanan also writes as Mira Grant, but those are medical thrillers and horror, so I don’t recommend them when you’re looking for something lighter! Patricia Wrede’s Frontier Magic, starting with Thirteenth Child, is an excellent alternate-world wild west fantasy.
AcademiaNut* April 16, 2022 at 12:33 am Wrede’s Sorcery and Cecelia trilogy is also excellent – Regency England with magic. Becky Chamber’s Wayfarer series, Katherine Addison’s The Goblin Emperor, TJ Klune’s The House in the Cerulean Sea, Victoria Goddard’s The Hand of the Emperor, and also her Greenwing and Dart Series. The Hand of the Emperor is an odd duck – a 900+ page doorstopper fantasy novel with no warfare or battles, no sex, next to no romance, lots of talking about feelings, a protagonist who is a middle aged civil servant devoted to making the world better through careful legislation, and a climactic scene late in the book that is sung in epic verse. But it all works, and is magnificent.
Radical Edward* April 16, 2022 at 12:47 am So many of these are on my list! In the meantime, I can enthusiastically second The Hands of the Emperor; I have read it twice in six months, and will probably read it again soon (I am so, so impatient for its sequel…). I haven’t enjoyed a novel that much in over a decade; not sure I *ever* had more fun reading a new fantasy novel. Clearly it struck a chord! In the meantime I am enjoying the Greenwing and Dart series, which is a delightful fusion of Connie Willis, Patricia C. Wrede, and… I want to say Patricia A. McKillip. It’s got some of that same dreamlike, ephemeral haze about the edges, sometimes.
Lucy* April 16, 2022 at 10:17 am Seconding The House in the Cerulean Sea by TJ Klune. Very lighthearted and wholesome and uplifting. My friend raved about his other book, Under the Whispering Door, to me as well. I only got like 70 pages in because I typically don’t read lighthearted and wholesome books and couldn’t handle a second book like that, lol. But if that’s what you’re looking for, it’s probably a good fit too!
Fellow Traveller* April 16, 2022 at 10:25 am I agree with you about Under The Whispering Door. I loved The House in the Cerulean Sea- it had such a light and heartfelt touch. Under the Whispering Door felt really labored to me. I finished it, but didn’t love it.
Dark Macadamia* April 16, 2022 at 12:18 pm House on the Cerulean Sea was a bit much for me, lol. It made me think of when you eat frosting and it’s so sweet your teeth hurt!
Software Dev (she/her)* April 17, 2022 at 11:44 am Just came back to say thank you for recommending hands of the emperor, I picked it up and it was exactly the book I needed.
DataGirl* April 16, 2022 at 9:00 am I like the October Daye series. It feels like a Dresden Files rip off in the first book but develops its own things pretty quickly. She brings a lot of old faerie tales into the stories which is fun. Great LGBTQIA representation. Incryptid I cannot recommend, it is so badly written. Huge plot holes, like, you wonder if your book has several chapters ripped out because one minute she’s keying up all these story lines then you turn the page and everything is over, the end. I abandoned the series after book 2.
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 11:43 am I’ve been wanting to check out McGuire. Arrrgh, the worst part of being unemployed is that I can’t buy ALL THE BOOKS.
Sue* April 16, 2022 at 1:36 pm I am a huge library fan. I would spend a small fortune on books if I bought them, even on Kindle. Sometimes have to wait awhile but I read/listened to 100+ books last year for free.
Elizabeth West* April 17, 2022 at 12:26 pm I like the library too, but the pandemic put the kibosh on using the library here last year. Now I don’t want to go to the trouble of getting a card when I’m just going to leave. I can wait. The books I want to read aren’t going anywhere.
AvonLady Barksdale* April 17, 2022 at 1:13 pm How much trouble is it where you are? The last two places I lived, it took 5 minutes to get a card. I think I even got my DC card online or something, but i did it the day after we moved. And once you have one, you have access to digital libraries too– sometimes I search for Kindle editions at the library where I haven’t lived since 2019. Reading library books got me through the toughest part of my unemployment, when I was completely freaking out about money– access to free books helped push me through. Shoot, free books get me through now, with a good job. I would go broke if I bought every book I wanted to read.
LibrarianR* April 17, 2022 at 1:33 pm Most libraries let you apply online which will give you access to all their digital resources: ebooks, movies, music, journal articles, magazines, etc. Really, no reason not to do it.
Libraries are awesome* April 17, 2022 at 2:27 pm It took me less than 5 minutes to get a library card and it was during the pandemic when the libraries were still closed to the public for browsing. I drove up in my car, called them from the car to give them my information, a librarian came out to the car and checked my town of residence and had me sign something and gave me a new card. We both wore masks. Now that restrictions have eased, I go to two different libraries nearby. The libraries are the only places in this area which still require and enforce indoor masking. I also check out ebooks through their online systems and honestly would not have gotten through the worst of the pandemic if I had not had access to online borrowing of ebooks. Anyone else who loves to read and either chooses not to buy or can’t afford to buy books, please look into your public library system! I love the library.
Libraries rule* April 17, 2022 at 3:04 pm We moved at the height of the fourth wave so I got my card online and used the Libby app for ebooks until the library opened back up – took three minutes to do and gave me lots to read! Then when the library opened up again I converted it to a physical card in two minutes the first time I went in. No fuss no muss! Unless you’re moving like tomorrow it might be worth it – there’s lots of joy to be had from a library card for very little investment.
Nancy* April 17, 2022 at 3:20 pm Most libraries let you apply online and you can continue to use it for ebooks if you move or for physical books when you visit. I still have a card for the library system in my home state even though I haven’t lived there for over 15 years. My current library lets anyone in the state get a temporary 6 month account online.
Kiwiapple* April 17, 2022 at 3:36 pm Library books saved me when I was long term unemployed a few years ago. I had no money to go anywhere or do anything but at least I could access lots and lots of free and new books to help me forget my horrible reality. I join the library as soon as I can, anywhere I live and some places I’ve only lived for a few months.
RagingADHD* April 17, 2022 at 9:57 pm I wonder if there’s some kind of documentation issue with not having proof of residence? But usually a driver’s license will do, you don’t have to have utilities in your name.
Elizabeth West* April 17, 2022 at 10:21 pm There isn’t; I just don’t want one here. I’m not staying here indefinitely.
Nope.* April 17, 2022 at 4:16 pm At this point, I’m convinced this poster would rather have problems than solutions. If that gets me banned, so be it, but it’s a bit tiring to see people constantly offer help only to be met with silly excuses.
linus bk* April 17, 2022 at 5:26 pm As a librarian I am a little confused by “I want to read all these books but I don’t want to get a library card.” OK?
Willis* April 17, 2022 at 7:41 pm Right. Maybe don’t bring up a complaint about being unable to read the books you’d like if you’re unwilling to entertain the super easy and free solution.
linus bk* April 17, 2022 at 10:33 pm Um… what exactly are you hoping for then when you come into a conversation —held in the comments of an advice column — about books people are reading and say you’re not reading because you can’t buy books?
LibrarianR* April 17, 2022 at 8:15 pm Also, in my library system, a digital card gives you free access to The NY Times. Which I believe you’ve fretted about access to in the past. Just get the card, already.
LilPinkSock* April 17, 2022 at 9:32 pm It’s not usually much of an arduous process to get a library card, right? Unless you’re leaving, like, tomorrow, I’d say that juice is well worth the squeeze.
Elizabeth West* April 17, 2022 at 10:33 pm THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM GOOD LORD I’m CHOOSING not to get a card here; it’s not that big a deal. Sheesh!
Middle School Teacher* April 17, 2022 at 11:08 pm You realise a library card isn’t an anchor. You’re allowed to not use it after you move away.
Ma'am this is a Wendy's* April 17, 2022 at 11:22 pm To be fair…you’re the one saying it’s a problem up above to not be able to get the books you want. People are giving you an easy, practical solution. You seem weirdly set on not getting a library card in your hometown, which is fine, but it also comes off as unreasonable when you’re complaining about not getting the books you want. You’ve been here long enough to know: if the whole group is disagreeing with you, you might want to really take a look inside yourself to figure out why.
I-away8* April 17, 2022 at 10:51 pm I can wait. The books I want to read aren’t going anywhere. I miss the days when I was young enough to think like that. Now that I’ve likely passed the midpoint of my life, I’m becoming increasing aware of the dwindling time left to do things I love. But at least the books will always be there.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 16, 2022 at 4:22 pm I can second Rosemary and Rue. Possibly someone here suggested it on one of these weekend threads; I’ve been reading a lot of new things I wouldn’t have known about thanks to AAM!
one of the meg murrys* April 17, 2022 at 5:05 pm I agree that there’s some hope in Every Heart a Doorway, but for those of us who don’t seek out horror, it qualifies as horror too, and it was pretty dark for me. YMMV, but CW for murder, graphic mutilation, cruelty, etc.
Andy* April 16, 2022 at 12:26 am Piranesi, by Susanna Clarke. A wonderful setting, and without giving too much away, the short book exudes gratitude, wonder, kindness, and care.
Wildcat* April 16, 2022 at 2:27 am I liked this book, but I’d hesitate to call it uplifting. There’s a lot of disorientation in the book.
A.N. O'Nyme* April 16, 2022 at 3:10 am L’aiguille Creuse (the Hollow Needle) by Maurice Leblanc – it’s one of his Arsène Lupin books. I appreciate the sheer “do not give a fluff” energy that man had when Arthur Conan Doyle told him he couldn’t use Sherlock Holmes and Watson…so he went with Herlock Sholmès and Wilson. Admittedly the two feature most prominently in Arsène Lupin contre Herlock Sholmès, but they still get an honourable mention in this one.
Kate in Scotland* April 16, 2022 at 4:03 am I’m pretty sure it was someone here who recommended the Garnet Run books by Roan Parrish. They are gentle male/male romances in a rural setting, and all feature the characters’ pets in a distinctive way! References to mental illness, loss, trauma; a modern romance novel amount of sex. I enjoyed them a lot.
I take tea* April 16, 2022 at 4:21 am I just read a Madeleine Brent, can recommend those books for lighthearted reading. Romantic suspense, a bit Gothic at times. Not great literature, but the heroines are relatable and the story telling is competent and fast paced. They usually are set around the last turn of the century and feature a young girl who will face big challenges and solve some mystery with her past. I always feel uplifted from reading them. Madeleine Brent is a pseudonym for Peter O’Donnell, who wrote Modesty Blaise. I like those too.
Scarlet Magnolias* April 17, 2022 at 2:48 pm YES! Heads up for Modesty Blaise, and the Madeline Brent novels as well
Falling Diphthong* April 16, 2022 at 7:18 am To Say Nothing of the Dog by Connie Willis. Time-traveling Oxford historians try to keep history on track via punting, church fetes, and butling, mixed with an ode to Jerome K Jerome’s Three Men in a Boat.
Wildcat* April 16, 2022 at 8:38 am Although watch out on her other books. Doomsday Book is devastating.
SpellingBee* April 16, 2022 at 9:08 am Agree! However, Crosstalk (one of her fairly recent books) is much lighter, and quite fun.
aceinplainsight* April 16, 2022 at 10:24 am I want to rant about how Doomsday Book WAS a sad but loving book about humanity THAT COULD NEVER HAPPEN HERE- except now we live in the backstory with no time travel to make up for it and it’s too much to imagine a quarantine that WORKS. Also, T Kingfisher’s White Rat universe books are delightful
Dr. (Not Mrs.) T* April 16, 2022 at 2:17 pm This is one of my favourite books in the world. Such a fun ride!
PhyllisB* April 16, 2022 at 8:07 am I mentioned Without a Hitch last week. It’s about a wedding planner for the wealthy. It’s fiction, but I can see these things really happening. It’s funny and just goes to show that even with a million dollar budget smooth sailing isn’t guaranteed.
AY* April 16, 2022 at 8:11 am I just finished Perestroika in Paris by Jane Smiley, and it would fit the bill to a T. It’s essentially a fable for adults. A racehorse named Perestroika wanders away from her racetrack just outside Paris. She meets a German shorthair pointer named Frida and a crow named Raoul. The animals talk, but not in a cutesy or Disney way because Smiley really has given a lot of thought to animal personalities and characteristics. I don’t know that I can explain it any better than Frida really seems like a dog and Raoul seems like a crow. It’s wonderful and I haven’t read much else like it.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 17, 2022 at 7:20 pm I wonder if you might like Hollow Kingdom? Post-apocalyptic/zombie apocalypse from the POV of animals. They did a good job with writing ‘talking animals’ too IMO.
PhyllisB* April 16, 2022 at 8:15 am I also read Very Sincerely Yours this week by Winfrey Kerr. It’s a cross between You’ve Got Mail and Mr. Rogers. I loved it. You don’t generally read a rom com and expect an Epiphany, but I had one. Main points that stuck with me; do one thing every day that scares you, find your passion, whether it’s personal or professional, and don’t do something that you really don’t want to do. I’m 71 years old so you would think I would have this stuff figured out by now, but having it laid out like that was really enlightening.
DataGirl* April 16, 2022 at 8:54 am I just finished Red Shirts, which is not wholesome but it’s very funny and overall a very enjoyable and uplifting little book. Next on my list is Still Just a Geek by Wil Wheaton.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 9:21 am Anything by Jasmine Guillory. She writes romance, but it’s romance that’s diverse and feminist. So fun and relaxing to read.
one of the meg murrys* April 17, 2022 at 5:14 pm Seconding Jasmine Guillory for high-quality escapism – there’s usually some racism or injustice that MCs are dealing with, but the focus is always on the hot romance and not trauma.
NotBatman* April 16, 2022 at 10:08 am Nonfiction: – Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge, and the Teachings of Plants by Robin Wall Kimmerer – Traffic: Why We Drive the Way We Do, And What It Says About Us by Tom Vaderbilt – A Walk in the Woods by Bill Bryson – Smoke Gets in Your Eyes and Other Lessons from the Crematory by Caitilin Doughtry *[this one is wholesome and funny; I swear!] Science Fiction: – The Murderbot Diaries by Martha Wells – The Long Way to a Small Angry Planet by Becky Chambers – The City We Became by N.K. Jemisin Realistic Fiction: – Chief Inspector Armand Gamache series by Louise Penny – Such a Fun Age by Kiley Reid – Three Wishes by Liane Moriarty
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 11:45 am We JUST talked about Braiding Sweetgrass in my meditation group this morning. It’s on my list.
Ella* April 17, 2022 at 12:49 am Braiding Sweetgrass is very good so far! I’m about a third of the way through and am planning on buying it for my sister and sister in law. Relaxing and pleasant.
Merle Grey* April 17, 2022 at 7:44 am I’m partway through this too. I’m taking my time with it – some chapters beg to be read twice (or sometimes out loud to my teen)! Not how I usually read, but it’s that good!
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 11:47 am Lots of my favorites on this list as well – and I was pleased to see Caitlin Doughty, whose work I adore. (Her YouTube channel, “Ask a Mortician”, is also worth checking out.)
NotBatman* April 16, 2022 at 12:33 pm I love her work! And you can back me up that hers really is a funny and wholesome memoir about handling dead bodies.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 16, 2022 at 4:25 pm Murderbot is so much more wholesome than you would guess by the name! It really is good!
The Gollux, Not a Mere Device* April 16, 2022 at 6:08 pm I very much like the Inspector Gamache novels, but they aren’t light-hearted, and while I could make a good argument that they’re uplifting overall, that’s in the context of thriller plots and large-scale corruption.
rr* April 16, 2022 at 6:34 pm I would really like to enjoy Bill Bryson, but his more than not-so-nice attitude towards fat people really ruins his books for me. Every single time. It is a constant current in his books and it is distasteful, to say the least.
Felis alwayshungryis* April 17, 2022 at 8:46 pm Yeah, that’s my biggest criticism of Bill Bryson. He’s very funny when he’s trying, but he does have a lazy tendency to fall back on mean-spiritedness for laughs, plus jokes based around swearing and sex (how edgy!). It’s pretty prominent in the early books, not as much in the middle books, and ramps up in the later ones. The Road to Little Dribbling is disappointingly ‘old man yells at cloud’.
the cat's ass* April 16, 2022 at 11:26 am Anything by Laurie Colwin. That includes her cookbooks, ‘Home Cooking’ and “more Home Cooking.” The books are getting a bit dated (she died in the early 1990’s) but still worth reading.
Tib* April 16, 2022 at 11:31 am One of my favorites is The Women in Black by Madeleine St John. It takes place in post war Australia, is about a group of women working in a department store, and is frothy but also has depth.
OtterB* April 16, 2022 at 11:41 am I have probably recommended this here before but I will say it again: The Hands of the Emperor by Victoria Goddard was my favorite book I read last year and it’s so encouraging. Kip Mdang is the emperor’s private secretary and head of the imperial civil service. You see coworkers become friends and the improvements Kip is bringing about in government with the emperor’s approval. The scenery and culture of Kip’s South-Pacific-like homeland are delightful. It’s long and some people find it slow. I like the immersion myself.
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 11:54 am Looking through my recent reading, I find that most of them are pretty dark {wry grin}. A couple of exceptions: The Silent Traveller in London by Chiang Yee, a memoir/travel-book about poet/artist Chiang Yee’s time in London in the post-war years. Charming observations of everything from museums and artwork to the reaction of dogs to a rare winter snow. John Scalzi’s The Kaiju Preservation Society – which does feature lots of real-world problems (including the pandemic, job-loss, etc.) but which is surprisingly light-hearted overall, and very funny. Not a recent read (though it’s high time I re-read it): Cotillion by Georgette Heyer, a delightful Regency romance that takes the whole “girl wants dashing rake” trope and flips it in marvelous fashion.
Dark Macadamia* April 16, 2022 at 12:25 pm That’s why I posted this lol. I haven’t read a lot of FUN books this year and it’s mostly just that I see some book about a lady spy or a teen who can fight and I’m like OOOOH that sounds good
JustForThis* April 18, 2022 at 11:01 am Just based on this comment, I went off and started reading _Cotillion_ yesterday evening — and couldn’t stop until I’d finished it around 5am. Great fun! Thanks for the recommendation :)
marvin the paranoid android* April 16, 2022 at 12:26 pm Everything I’ve read by Jaclyn Moriarty fits this description. The subject matter of her books is not 100 percent light, but the tone is always very whimsical and amusing. I’d describe it as a Beverly Cleary energy but for an adult or YA audience (and Australian). I’m particularly fond of Feeling Sorry for Celia and I Have a Bed Made of Buttermilk Pancakes. (Fun fact: She is the sister of Liane Moriarty. I don’t think their books have much in common.)
marvin the paranoid android* April 16, 2022 at 12:29 pm ALSO, I absolutely LOVE Cemetery Boys and it has a very sweet and heartwarming story. If you’re up for YA fantasy (and ghosts!) I’d recommend it to anyone. I recently re-read it and if anything it’s better the second time.
AGD* April 16, 2022 at 1:05 pm Her books are great fun! Had no idea she and Liane Moriarty were even related, though – there’s a surprise!
Tofu Fan* April 16, 2022 at 3:05 pm Rosaline Palmer Takes the Cake by Alexis Hall is a fun British baking show romcom.
Ali + Nino* April 17, 2022 at 11:32 pm The baking reminded me of the book Rabbit Cake – told from the POV of a young girl who recently lost her mother, it’s just very heartwarming.
ccr in MA* April 16, 2022 at 5:21 pm I really enjoyed The Bookish Life of Nina Hill, by Abby Waxman. The protagonist is cheery without being sappy, and I enjoyed how she met new people and connected with them in unexpected ways.
Candi* April 16, 2022 at 7:41 pm TROLL BRIDGE Terry Pratchett Cohen is troll hunting. Found in: Ashley, Mike. The Mammoth Book of Comic Fantasy . Little, Brown Book Group. Kindle Edition.
Smol Book Wizard* April 17, 2022 at 12:43 am It isn’t a recent read, but I recently-ish re-read The Goblin Emperor. A fantasy novel, vaguely steampunk but quietly, starts full of social anxiety, but ultimately uplifting and quietly joyful tale of belonging. Also, they’re marketed for kids but good for all ages – Kate Milford’s novels, especially Greenglass House and its sequels. Good fun, numinous magic, villains but lots of heroes.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 17, 2022 at 7:25 pm You’ve inspired me to request the Goblin Emperor from my library, looking forward to reading it. Thank you!
Ella* April 17, 2022 at 12:54 am I am discovering Alexander McCall Smith. I read My Italian Bulldozer (based off an AAM recommendation!) and its sequel The Second Worst Restaurant In France. I just started the Espresso Tales series of his and described it to my husband as “low stakes but interesting and pleasant”
WoodswomanWrites* April 15, 2022 at 11:59 pm Birding thread. What birds are you seeing or hearing, and what are they up to? It’s nesting season and the local sparrows are landing on my windowsill to snatch spiderwebs to build their nests. When they land, they’re only about three feet away from my desk and it’s so cool to see them that close. I’m also loving all the spring bird songs.
AcademiaNut* April 16, 2022 at 12:33 am Baby swallows at the bus stop, and we’re out this afternoon for the migrating shorebirds.
Cheep Cheep* April 16, 2022 at 12:49 am I was very happily putting out peanut butter on my fire escape the last week, which attracted a crow, some dark-eyed juncos, and a house finch…and then I read today the bird groups are asking people to not do bird feeders, etc. right now due to the worry of spreading avian flu. I am sad, they brought me a lot of joy. But as it gets warmer I can go out in the backyard and hopefully see some of them there.
Radical Edward* April 16, 2022 at 12:51 am I saw teenaged Mourning Doves the other day, harassing their parent for food under the bushes in the backyard. I had never seen that behavior from Mourning Doves before, and it was really funny. (Two against one though, hardly fair!)
Lemonwhirl* April 16, 2022 at 1:46 am We have all the finches at our house right now – goldfinch, siskin, chaffinch, and redpoll. We also get the occasional tit – great, blue, and coal. And I saw a blackbird in the cherry blossom tree and a thrush in the grass. I’m listening for the first cuckoo of summer, but haven’t heard one yet. Also haven’t seen the swallows yet. Does anyone have advice on how to learn the calls and sounds of birds?
Usicechick* April 16, 2022 at 7:15 am Have you used the Merlin app from the Cornell Ornithology Lab? It helps identify birds by look and by song and has recordings of all likely birds for your area. I’m lying in bed with my windows open and identifying birds with it right now :)
Tortally HareBrained* April 16, 2022 at 1:53 am Last weekend we got to add 15 species to our year list, migration is definitely on! Had a fabulous experience watching a Magnificent Frigatebird be harassed by gulls over a wetland.
Virginia Plain* April 16, 2022 at 3:26 am I am a very inexperienced birdwatcher having only got my first garden just before Xmas (before that I lived in a flat and all I ever saw flying about were magpies, and the odd chinook). But since moving in, I have observed some conveniently easy to recognise birds – robins, and blue tits. Fortunately not at the same time as a large ginger cat who must love hereabouts. A small river goes through my town and on my walk to the station I have often seen moorhens, coots and egrets. Also a couple of times goldfinches in trees. Not birds but flying beasts – at my old flat in London I once saw two massive stag beetles flying around – I was watching from my window and it was a first floor (second floor to USAians) flat so they were quite high, although I don’t know their usual habits. They were huge though, with these massive pincers! Well huge for the UK where nature is mostly gentle and unthreatening; doubtless an Australian would have regarded them as unimpressive lol.
Virginia Plain* April 16, 2022 at 3:28 am PS the reference to what the ginger cat does round here is a typo but I’m leaving it; I’m sure he is loving and beloved!
Lizabeth* April 16, 2022 at 3:44 am The wrens have descended! Singing their hearts out all over the place and frantically making twig pile nests all over for the Mrs. to inspect and chose one. Watched one go in and out of the collar opening to the propane tank with twigs yesterday. It must have just started that one because there wasn’t a twig pile yet when I looked in. Usually a birdbath sits on top and blocks that place.
Chauncy Gardener* April 16, 2022 at 6:36 am Our wrens have arrived too! I had put out a lot of gourd birdhouses a few weeks ago and both the wrens and the black capped chickadees are very busy inspecting and defending them.
Chauncy Gardener* April 16, 2022 at 6:37 am Oh yes, and we had a pair of wood ducks in the pond yesterday!
Kate in Scotland* April 16, 2022 at 4:06 am I can hear oystercatchers so I’m hoping they’re nesting nearby again – we’re inland so only get them in breeding season. They are my favourite birds and I’m hoping to spot them soon!
Expiring Cat Memes* April 16, 2022 at 5:01 am For weeks I could have sworn I heard king parrots at times, but their calls are like a slightly less raucous version of a lorikeet (and we have a lot of those), so I wasn’t sure. Then yesterday, there they were. A gorgeous pair munching on a vine that had gone to seed right outside the kitchen window.
Berlin Berlin* April 16, 2022 at 6:07 am This week on a lunchtime walk by the canal I saw a pair of Mandarin ducks! I’ve never seen them before and I thought they were two of the most beautiful birds I’ve ever seen.
The Other Dawn* April 16, 2022 at 6:41 am The Canada geese have returned to my backyard. There’s a small pond and also a running stream back there, as well as a small area of marsh around it. Every year we get one or two pair of geese who come to have their babies. We seem to have only one pair this year. They’ve been wandering around our yard, as well as the neighbors’, for about two weeks now. I love when they have their chicks and start bringing the little ones into our yards. They tend to have five to seven chicks each year. I get nervous when they decide to cross the road (homeowner has a big pond) because people often drive pretty fast and sometimes don’t see them crossing.
Constance Lloyd* April 16, 2022 at 7:41 am A mourning dive has been hanging out on the window ledge of my home office every morning, and it is easily the highlight of my day!
Ready for spring* April 16, 2022 at 8:11 am Watching bluebirds on the suet right outside our window here in the Midwest. A favorite. We put up boxes a few years back, but although we get bluebirds in the yard it seems someone else uses the bluebird boxes.
allathian* April 16, 2022 at 11:12 am Blackbirds are singing like crazy, and I saw a pair of common wood pigeons mating on a neighbor’s rooftop when I went for my lunchtime walk on Tuesday.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain* April 16, 2022 at 11:35 am Both heard and seen — there was a BIG Canada Goose flying around the other day. I’m in Los Angeles area…this isn’t the first time I’ve seen a goose, but it’s a bit unusual.
Suprisingly ADHD* April 16, 2022 at 11:37 am The mockingbird has returned. Which mockingbird you might ask? The one that stands on the peak of my roof and sings, all day and all night, from mid-april till late september. And has picked up the cadence of a car alarm and added it to its set. I mean, it’s nice to have birdsong on the roof, but at some point I need to sleep! But apparently not this bird! It’s pretty impressive actually.
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 11:46 am Nothing fancy, just a cardinal and the biggest, fattest robin I’ve ever seen.
MissCoco* April 16, 2022 at 6:23 pm My first warbler ever this week! A few yellow-rumped were in my backyard and hung around long enough for me to get an ID. I’ve seen them twice before but only long enough to think “I don’t know that bird”
Rose is a rose is a rose* April 16, 2022 at 10:05 pm There was just a cheeky little towhee outside my kitchen window. Today I’ve also seen common mergansers, a bald eagle, lots of gulls and crows, a vulture, lots of varied thrushes and robins, grebes and heard a loon!
Smol Book Wizard* April 17, 2022 at 12:47 am The herons are still out in force in the heronry of our local park, and the ospreys have come north again, to my joy – they’re my favorites! There are a lot of chickadees, who we refer to as the Illegally Smol Birbs, who fly about beeping in our backyard trees too. Lovely little things. (She’s not a wild bird, but I just had to pull my green cheek conure Kino off the top of my laptop screen, because she was sliding down it while trying to chew on the edge.)
Software Dev (she/her)* April 17, 2022 at 11:46 am I’ve got a cardinal that keeps flying to the window above my porch to attack his own reflection. Beautiful bird.
the Viking Diva* April 17, 2022 at 12:06 pm This morning I can hear a Say’s Phoebe issuing his call on blast mode. Every year he hopefully takes up residence in the local evergreens; some years he is joined by a female and they build a nest on a ledge in the little shed where the garbage bins are. Most of my neighbors never realize she is up there sitting on eggs. I enjoy spotting her but I think there is too much commotion to be a propitious site for getting eggs all the way to the hatching and fledging point.
Trixie Belle* April 17, 2022 at 2:13 pm This is the week the orioles have arrived back from wherever they go over the winter. I can whistle something close to their song and although they don’t quite buy it, they do sometimes look a little astonished at me.
WoodswomanWrites* April 16, 2022 at 12:17 am Friends are getting married and invited me to their wedding. I’m honored to be included. I met the couple through a Meetup group that I organize. They called me to share the news, and brought up on the phone that I can bring a guest. Their invitation they mailed also includes that those attending can bring a guest. The wedding is about a 90-minute drive, so there’s no overnight travel. My friends know that I’m single. Although others from our Meetup group have met them, I’m the only one who has socialized with them outside the group and who has been invited. In that context, it would feel awkward to bring someone from our group. In the past when I’ve gone to weddings alone, I’ve known other guests. That’s not the case this time and I’m not big on chitchat at gatherings with people I won’t see again. I’m aware that the wedding is expensive for my friends, and if my guest would have no connection to the couple afterward, it feels weird to bring someone. That said, they brought up that I could bring a guest when they called to share their wedding news, so I’m not sure what to do. For other single folks who’ve received wedding invitations including a guest, how did you respond?
PollyQ* April 16, 2022 at 12:48 am They’ve apparently said twice (once in the formal invite & once in a phone convo) that you’re welcome to bring a guest, so if you want to, go ahead & do so.
Nancy* April 16, 2022 at 1:05 am If I know someone who is free and willing to go with me, then I invite them and include their name on the RSVP. You are allowed to bring a guest, so do so if you want.
Despachito* April 16, 2022 at 1:22 am They said that you could, not that you had to. I think there is nothing wrong to RSVP as one person. I think that the plus one invites are meant as a courtesy for people not to have to leave their significant other at home, but just like you, I would also hesitate to invite an absolute stranger with no connection to the bride or the groom just to have a plus one with me, and cause them to spend more money on him/her. I also understand why you do not want to invite anyone from your Meetup group (I would feel the same way). If I were you, I’d go alone and enjoy your friends’ special day.
Falling Diphthong* April 16, 2022 at 7:34 am In this context, I’d interpret the plus one not as a provision for the steady romantic partner (in that case, find out their name and put it on the invitation), but as a nod that WW–and perhaps a couple of other guests–don’t know anyone else on the guest list. If the wedding reception is likely to turn into a couple of family and college reunions, it’s a thoughtful provision. Not one WW has to take them up on, but I’d feel no guilt about doing so.
Jackalope* April 16, 2022 at 1:36 pm Yes, this. When we got married that was part of the plan: if anyone happened not to know anyone else, they could bring someone that would be someone for them to talk to and hang out with if needed.
Expiring Cat Memes* April 16, 2022 at 2:15 am Your friends want you to have a good time at their wedding. They know you won’t know anyone and are happy for you to bring a friend so it feels less awkward for you. It sounds like they know you well and can also foresee that they probably won’t get to spend much time with you on the day introducing you to others. If you can swing it, give a more generous (2-person equivalent) gift instead and make sure the friend you bring is a delightful party guest.
misspiggy* April 16, 2022 at 3:51 am I agree. Your guest is within the budget. If you don’t bring a guest the saving for the couple will be small in context of the overall wedding cost. So do what would please you most. The couple won’t mind you bringing a total stranger, as they’ve made clear you can bring anyone you like.
Clisby* April 16, 2022 at 3:10 pm I tend to agree. Now, I, personally, cannot fathom going to a wedding where I didn’t know anyone, so whether the poster will be able to find anyone who wants to do this is a different story. (I don’t find weddings particularly entertaining, so for me to go at least one of the couple needs to be pretty close to me.)
Kate in Scotland* April 16, 2022 at 4:12 am Yes, I second inviting someone who is a good guest! If you happen to have an extrovert friend who likes chit chat then all the better, but if not then just a nice person who won’t get embarrassingly drunk or anything. I’ve been to a wedding as a +1 for a friend and I think it worked really well, it meant the couple weren’t worried about my friend being on her own and not having anyone to talk to.
Doctors Whom* April 16, 2022 at 7:04 am Agree! Invite a friend who is a good guest. Your friends have made sure to mention this to you because they want you to have a good time and know someone else at the wedding!
Virginia Plain* April 16, 2022 at 3:49 am The happy couple sound lovely – they know that you won’t know any other guests so they’ve encouraging you to bring a friend so you’ll feel more comfortable, and they have made it clear to all guests that they can bring a friend or date so it’s not just you being singled out. There might be others who don’t know other guests either so you probably won’t be alone in that. Given that you say you aren’t big on socialising with people you don’t know/won’t see again, I’d say that doing anything else than inviting a fun friend who you enjoy spending time with and who likes weddings, would be looking a gift horse in the mouth! If you were fine to go alone (I would be; I’m that kind of person) then it would be fine to do that – but it doesn’t sound like you are, it sounds like you’d feel a bit lonely. Fwiw when single I have never received a plus-one wedding invitation where the plus one is unspecified; maybe we brits are more parsimonious but guest headcount is usually too tight for that. Couples often don’t want to sacrifice seeing some of the people they love and value in order to invite a bunch of randoms. (I think the same reasoning is often at least part of the decision not to invite children; it can literally be, do I invite this half dozen lovely friends or do I invite my cousin’s sticky toddlers and my uncle’s second wife’s 13yo son from her first marriage?) It’s even common for established partners not to be invited if the bride/groom don’t know them; I’m going to a wedding in July of a friend I met at work, and my OH has never set eyes on them so he isn’t invited and I wouldn’t expect him to be. But if I received an invitation like yours I would decide based solely on what I wanted to do, given that you are welcome either to bring someone or not.
Falling Diphthong* April 16, 2022 at 7:27 am People I have heard of brought successfully in such circumstances: A socially ept relative or friend (from a different friend group) who can chat pleasantly with people and keep you company, and rehash the event with you afterward. I would take them at their repeated word that they thought about how they would like to have you there, but recognize other groups will be having a reunion and they will be busy, so offer the plus-one for your comfort. It’s fine if you want to go alone! But I think the offer is sincere.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 9:24 am If they told you that you can bring a guest, and you want to, bring one! One of the main reasons I gave single people guests at my wedding was if they didn’t know people, I wanted them to have a good time.
Maybe not* April 16, 2022 at 10:59 am When I got married, I did the same thing your friends are doing. I wanted them to have fun and enjoy the night. It was fine that many people didn’t bring one. And it was fine that many did. I wasn’t invested in whether single people brought a guest or not. I just wanted them to have the option of it would make the night more fun for them.
I'm A Little Teapot* April 16, 2022 at 11:00 am You are overthinking this. They’ve said you can bring a guest, so if you want then bring a guest.
mreasy* April 16, 2022 at 11:12 am You can absolutely bring a guest. When someone invited you to their wedding, they want you to have a good time. It sounds like they’d rather you feel comfortable with someone else you know there than save the $ for the plate (which frankly is a drop in the bucket vs venue rental, flowers, bridal wear, etc). Please feel free to bring a friend!
Little beans* April 16, 2022 at 12:13 pm At my wedding, I was more than happy to let single guests bring someone, even if I didn’t know them. I wanted everyone to have a good time, and I’m sure your friends do too! If you wouldn’t be comfortable going alone, bring someone who you’ll have fun with, or you can also always just decide not to go and celebrate with the couple another way!
Jora Malli* April 16, 2022 at 12:13 pm I was invited to a wedding a few years ago where the only people I knew were the married couple and a few members of the wedding party, and I wasn’t given the option to bring a guest. I felt so awkward and lonely the whole time. I sat by myself during the ceremony, and my table at the reception was all married couples and I was the odd one out. I was really happy for my friends, but I wished I had someone to sit with and talk to and dance with. So, if your friends have said you’re welcome to bring a guest and you think having someone you know there with you would make the wedding more enjoyable, bring a guest.
lapgiraffe* April 16, 2022 at 5:02 pm I was invited to a wedding a few years ago and had always attended weddings solo, I’m extroverted and will chat up just about anyone, but between not knowing any of the bride or groom’s friends and everyone involved being somewhat older than the usual for marriage around here, I ended up being the only single/solo person other than one very old relative and anyone under the age of 12. I won’t say it was awful, but it wasn’t great, actually it was pretty awful. Thing is, friend had given me a plus one and while my thinking wasn’t the same as yours, I figured I’d be fine on my own cause I’m a very fine on my own person. Like I dine alone most of the time, I travel alone, I am not afraid of showing up on my own. I stress this to say that despite my comfort in solo life, I’m never making the solo wedding mistake again, take the plus one! Like everyone else said, they want you to be comfortable and have fun, find a friend that’s good for parties and travel and make a weekend of it.
Purple Cat* April 16, 2022 at 6:04 pm Your friends absolutely want you to bring somebody you’re comfortable with and that’s why you have a +1. They know it’s awkward to be the guest who doesn’t know anyone outside the couple.
Anono-me* April 16, 2022 at 6:42 pm It sounds like you have lovely fortunate friends who want you to be happy at their wedding. The big +1 question if it were me isn’t “Should I bring a +1 or not?”; but rather Is there someone who would be able to be my +1 who would enjoy going, be a good guest and make the event more pleasant for me?” FWIIW When I was single, going to a big life event with a fun friend who got on well with lots of people was the best, going solo was okay and bringing someone who wasn’t a social person was the worst.
Veronica Marx* April 16, 2022 at 7:02 pm If I know people at the wedding and I’m single, I wouldn’t bring a friend. If I don’t know many people then I would. I’m currently planning my wedding and we’re giving everyone a plus one. Most people will know lots of other people there but for those who don’t, I want them to have fun and feel comfortable. If that means bringing a friend/new date/whatever along I’m completely fine with it!
Veronica Marx* April 16, 2022 at 7:10 pm I should also clarify that if one of my friends who knows lots of people at the wedding wants to bring a friend/date/etc., that’s cool too! I was more answering specifically to your question. Your friends won’t care at all—they want you to be there and have fun and be comfortable. Bring your plus one and don’t worry about it at all!
WoodswomanWrites* April 16, 2022 at 11:36 pm Thanks, all. I’m clearly ignorant of how weddings work. :) The couple is encouraging guests to dress in a 1920s style, and I have a sociable friend who enjoys dressing up for period events so I could invite her if I end up deciding to bring a friend.
Esmeralda* April 17, 2022 at 12:21 am Don’t bring a guest. It’s just a few hours. You don’t need to talk w anyone during the ceremony, of course . At the reception talk with and listen to people seated at your table. Or find someone who seems to be alone. Or someone who looks kind or friendly. Allowing plus-ones is a nice gesture on your friends’ part, but I’ve always felt that a wedding is a strange place to bring along a date/friend… And no, I’m not a naturally gregarious person, I’m naturally awkward in fact.
Lilith* April 17, 2022 at 2:00 am The 1920s dealio sounds rather fun. It would be difficult for me as I live in a smallish town and hate to shop but I’d enjoy seeing what others wear—especially the B/G. Your friend idea sounds good as a plus one. I was about to suggest your mom or sis if one was available.
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 8:40 am I think if I decided to go solo to a wedding where I didn’t known anyone other than the bride and groom, I’d try to put on my most gregarious persona and chat politely with strangers through dinner (weddings are easier than most social events because “how do you know the bride or groom” is right there to get you started) but also plan to leave earlier than usual, after the last official wedding stuff is done but before the long music/dancing part is on, if I haven’t met anyone I clicked with. As someone says above, it’s just a few hours, I can try to be Social for that long. I would worry for myself about getting drunk trying to overcome the awkwardness and then ending up the Dancing Queen later, so I’d need to see myself out.
Anon 4 this* April 16, 2022 at 12:23 am If someone has a special needs child and taking care of said child means that the parent becomes a full-time caretaker, how does this parent live? If the parent is married, the household is now a one-income household. If the parent is a single parent, they are now without income. Is the answer going on welfare, provided there’s no one else to take on the financial responsibility?
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 1:16 am Well, every parent (or every set of parents) has to make a decision about who is going to care for their child/children, whether the child has special needs or not. The choices are the same in all scenarios: -Make enough money to hire appropriate childcare. -Have 1 of 2 parents stay home and be FT caretaker. -Arrange for a family member to donate care (like a grandparent). -Scrape by on whatever pieces of the social safety net you can cobble together. When a child has special needs, the caregiving is more intense, more expensive, and goes on for longer. But it’s not as if typical babies or little kids can be left home alone. Somebody has to take care of them, regardless.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 1:45 am I suppose there’s the option of both parents working alternate shifts so one of them is always with the child. But then nobody ever sleeps, so that’s not sustainable.
30ish* April 16, 2022 at 2:18 am The situation is really different for a special needs child though. Especially if they are always going to need care.
misspiggy* April 16, 2022 at 4:02 am Where I am you don’t ‘go on welfare’ if you have a disabled kid. Whether employed or unemployed, parents apply for different specific types of assistance, some from national government, some from local government, some from charity. Some things will come free from the NHS. Being the parent of a disabled child is a huge amount of admin as well as everything else, but there is support available. Once the disabled person becomes an adult, provision is less, but the health service and local government are just about still required by law to provide certain forms of help.
Irish Teacher.* April 16, 2022 at 6:55 am Some of those options are not possible for children with some more severe disabilities. For example, some forms of childcare, such as daycare or au pairs that might be appropriate for the average child might not be equiped to deal with a child who has severe medical needs, who may need to be tube fed, etc. Equally, grandparents who may be able to feed and change a baby might not have the physical strength to change a 10 year old who is still in diapers and needs to be helped or even lifted onto the changing table. Also some children with certain needs may be ill regularly or in and out of hospital, which adds another complication for caretakers. A daycare probably won’t be able to care for a child when ill and will certainly need to contact parents if they need hospital treatment.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 9:13 am Indeed, some of those options may not be available to all parents. That’s also true for typical children. One parent might be absent, disabled, or dead. There might be no extended family. The parent might not have the skills to earn a high enough income. I volunteer with an organization that serves low income families, and “how do we survive and who watches the babies” is a struggle for many, many families. My point was that every family has to make caregiving decisions, and they are costly. The OP seemed to postulate that there might be some magical other option that doesn’t exist for anyone.
Sam* April 16, 2022 at 12:25 pm The OP is realizing that their situation comes with unique challenges that means the typical answers won’t work and is asking for experiences of that situation. I don’t read it as magical thinking at all, but wanting to hear from people who won’t tell them that grandparents can babysit, when they likely can’t. (Same as if the OP was asking without having family nearby—the typical answers of ‘my mother’ aren’t helpful, but someone suggesting a babysitting coop might. Or if a low income couple asks, hearing how two people with flexible work times, access to drop in daycare, ability to make as much PTO as they want, arranged it is the opposite of helpful.) maybe trust that OPs are asking specific questions for a reason and don’t pontificate at them, particularly if you’re not in the demographic being described.
Maiasaura* April 16, 2022 at 1:18 pm “The OP seemed to postulate that there might be some magical other option that doesn’t exist for anyone.” That’s a pretty uncharitable interpretation. I’m a single parent of two kids, one of whom has a relatively mild disability, and I’m always, ALWAYS on the lookout for ideas and options I haven’t tried. A magical solution would be more than welcome.
Katie* April 16, 2022 at 9:23 am I have two special needs kids and I am absolutely struggling with this now. My husband and I both work and can get away with this because I work from home and my kids are in school most the day. We had a nanny before they started school but now that we don’t I am struggling to convince anyone to watch them. We don’t qualify for government aid because we make too much money so we are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Charlotte Lucas* April 16, 2022 at 9:30 am Your children might qualify for Medicaid anyway. TEFRA allows for children with a certain level of need to qualify for Medicaid without taking their parents’ income into consideration. How you apply varies by state, but check you state’s health agency website. (In some states, the program is named after Katie Beckett, the girl whose family fought to get the law enacted back in the 80s.)
Charlotte Lucas* April 17, 2022 at 8:50 am Yep! It’s one of many waivers a person with disabilities could be eligible for, depending on the state. Basically, each state works out with the federal government which services, etc., beyond standard Medicaid will be made available.
Irish Teacher.* April 16, 2022 at 6:50 am In Ireland, we have specific allowances for people who have severe disabilities or are caring for somebody with a disability. Yeah, they are forms of welfare, but they are assessed differently from jobseekers’ allowance and there is no obligation to be “actively seeking work.” We also have a “one-parent family payment,” which is available to one parent families below a certain income.
Asenath* April 16, 2022 at 8:24 am In my family, the choice was to be a one-income household, although the parent with the job also did a lot of the caregiving. If that’s not possible, and the child’s needs are such that hired help isn’t enough, or the income from one or even two workers isn’t enough to pay for the extras needed, even with what government assistance is available (s0me places have allowances or payments for the caregiver or even, in big cities, for specially trained, but part time, home help), some parents have had to place their child in government care.
allathian* April 17, 2022 at 2:00 am Yes. Placing children in government care is pretty much the last resort, but may be the only option sometimes. Some kids with severe disabilities can be violent, and when they hit their teens, they may be uncontrollable except by force/medication. Especially if the kid is a big boy and the mom is petite, at some point she’ll no longer be able to control him physically. Then the only option may be to place the kid in government care where professionals care for them 24/7 and where the patients are on tranquillizers to ensure the physical safety of the nursing staff.
Generic Name* April 16, 2022 at 11:58 am I know a family that is in this situation. Their oldest daughter is nonverbal and uses a wheelchair. While the parents were married, the mom stayed home as her caregiver. Because no daycare would take the child, the state paid her a salary as a caregiver. I believe having the salary was family income dependent, because she mentioned that she couldn’t work too many hours at her side gig, or she would make too much money and lose the state income. The couple is now divorced, and that dad is a single parent and works as the daughter’s caregiver. I know another family where both parents work full time, and the mom works from home. Dad is a teacher, so his work hours make it possible for him to be the caregiver while his wife is working. If you are facing this situation (and are in the US) you can look up The Arc and ask for help navigating the resources available to you. A profoundly disabled child is often eligible for Medicaid when otherwise the family would not qualify based on income. But I think it varies greatly by state. This is based on my personal experience and on the experience of my friends.
OtterB* April 16, 2022 at 12:04 pm In the US, available support and how you access it varies by state and is usually complicated. I have read that some places a parent or family member can be a paid caregiver, but it’s not something we needed so I never checked into it. Assuming the child is young, check with your school district early intervention program. In addition to arranging therapies, they can sometimes also help you identify parent groups or other resources. My daughter with special needs is 28 now, so my experience is somewhat outdated, but I got most of my information from other parents online. I found online government information too vague, because needs and eligibility vary so much that they can’t say much that applies across the board, but if I asked other parents how they handled something, I would get useful stories or suggestions. Other good sources may be local Arc groups or United Cerebral Palsy (they have info that applies to more than CP).
ronda* April 17, 2022 at 11:00 am I am volunteering doing taxes and some folks are being paid by the department of human services (I think that is the name) to care for their disabled relative. these payments can be set to not be taxable on your federal return if that gives you a more favorable tax treatment (it does not always) These are called medicare waiver payments. I am not sure how people get into this program, but it seems like it might be helpful in these situations.
Your Oxford Comma* April 16, 2022 at 12:28 am Your black kitty reminds me of my Schipperkes: They don’t bite, they judge. That cat is really good at his job.
I just want contractors to listen!* April 16, 2022 at 12:49 am Last summer I got bids for some landscaping work. We had 5 things on our “must have list”. None of the bids had all 5 of the things I asked for. The average was 2. Went a few rounds of changes with one guy, eventually gave up because he was so condescending and kept trying to tell me he knew better than I did what I wanted. This summer we tried again, this time with my husband as point man. Same 5 things. So far none of the bids have all 5 included, though his average is 3.75 of the 5 things we want. So….progress? Seriously WTF is up with that? This is not a small project, we are specific about a few things but others we are less specific about. But they CANNOT seem to give us a bid for what we want. We ask for X and they come back with “I changed it to Z because I think it will look better” – I even TOLD him I cared more about functionality than looks when he was here for the consult and suggested that change, and he admitted it would function better the way I asked. So why come back with a bid that makes that change we specifically talked about and I specifically said I didn’t want? Other things are like “We do not want the view from this first floor window blocked, it’s the best view in the house.” He puts a tree with an estimated height of 25 feet and a spread of 17 right in front of that window! Had similar issues with a kitchen remodel a few years back, but at least that time when my husband took over as the main contact suddenly the contractors cared about what we wanted. Literally had one contractor back then tell me that he “knew what women wanted better than they did” It would be a whole different thing if they came back and said “well, city code requires this….” or “Doing that would be a safety hazard” or “That tree doesn’t work in this climate” even anything other than “I like it better this way.” That’s the only reasons we are getting. We said “don’t block the view” and he came back with “I thought maybe you’d like shade there.” No, you don’t disregard our requirements because you like it better. (For the record, we didn’t request any specific plants. Just plants that were low maintenance and low water.) It’s so frustrating. Even finding contractors to give a bid has been a pain. One contractor only takes credit cards or Venmo, and yet charges a 10% surcharge for payment that way? Lost us right there, even if his bid had met our requirements. Looking like the project isn’t happening this year, either. It’s well beyond our skills to DIY and we’ve been saving for years and we’ve got cash to spend. I’m so irritated. Our 5 requests are: Low maintenance/low water plants/no grass (or astro turf) Paver walkway to side door Replace the deck but it cannot cover basement window wells Don’t block view from one first floor window No trees that would drop leaves into the air conditioner
Double A* April 16, 2022 at 12:59 am That does sound frustrating! That being said, we also want to replace decks and get pavers done, and for those projects were going with decking companies and paving companies, respectively. I personally wouldn’t expect one contractor to do landscaping, decking, and paving. You might have some luck if you break the project up that way? In terms of landscaping, I’m in California and would work with someone who specializes in native plants. That’s a big thing out here; it might be worth looking into on your area.
Kiwiapple* April 16, 2022 at 1:08 am Very frustrating. What I am curious about is when they give you the first drafts, which doesn’t hit all of your points and you correct them, do they then submit a second plan or do you just end the conversation and move onto the next?
I just want contractors to listen!* April 16, 2022 at 2:39 pm Mostly, I’ve given feedback and they’ve dome back with a second. One dude who hit zero of what I wanted and had a 15 foot water feature and a hot tub (I didn’t ask for either) I just walked away.
PollyQ* April 16, 2022 at 1:30 am Just wondering, is the deck something that’s often been omitted? I ask because it seems like a different kind of work than the plant-based changes you’re looking for, so it might be worth splitting that out of the project.
Wombats and Tequila* April 16, 2022 at 3:00 am Maybe you could break up the tasks and hire people to do those specific tasks. For instance, in your place, I would start with the deck. Hire a deck vendor. Get recommendations from friends or even neighbors who have decks that you like. If you know of a contractor you like who doesn’t do decks, maybe they will know someone who is good with that. I have had good luck choosing contractors and auto mechanics that way. Use the same process to hire the paver. If you have the patience and physical strength to try it yourself, it’s not really hard, just a pain in the backside. Find someone who knows about trees and native plants. That person can help you select the tree and low water plantings. Get recommendations from local nurseries, and if there is a local arboretum, there should be someone there who could help. Then you can hire the landscapers to plant the tree and plantings.
I just want contractors to listen!* April 16, 2022 at 2:41 pm I could, but the companies I’ve been asking for bids advertise that they do all of these things.
Missb* April 16, 2022 at 3:27 am I’ve hired a landscape architect to reimagine my backyard. I’m a bit less specific I suppose. My fenced veggie garden cannot be moved, I need the sloped yard terraced, I want one mature fruit tree to stay. I have other requirements like using onsite cobbles for any retaining walls in the terracing, a specific style of greenhouse, use my existing fire pit but in a different location. But from there I want their input and their design. Once they present their initial design, we will ask for a few modifications before they solidify the design. Then they can guide us to various contractors to implement the design. It’s costing about $2500 for the design, and they’re creating designs for about 1/2 the overall property (so for about 1/4 acre). Maybe you could start with a landscape architect instead of trying the design-build approach that isn’t working for you? Separate out the design from the build.
Virginia Plain* April 16, 2022 at 3:57 am Where did you source the contractors you’ve worked with so far? With lots of this sort of work it’s great if you can get a personal recommendation, “oh let me give you Jeff’s email, he did my front garden and look how lovely it is, and he was pleasant and reliable”. If you don’t know actual people locally, your local Facebook group is a goldmine for this sort of thing. I wanted some neglected overgrown shrubs removed from my back garden (not neglected by me I hasten to add; I only moved in a few months ago) and I asked on my town’s group and had a dozen personal recommendations within 24 hours, and quotes from the three I picked within a fortnight. I would recommend the one I chose to others. I also have details for someone to repair a sewing machine, and to reupholster a chair, ready to go.
Chauncy Gardener* April 16, 2022 at 6:46 am I agree with other folks that say you need different folks for different projects. The walkway would be a mason. The deck would be a carpenter. Then a garden designer who specializes in native plants for the rest. Do NOT use a landscaper (I mean the guys that mow, weed whack, leaf blow etc) for your garden design. For some reason, they never do a good job. They don’t know how to prune either. I totally empathize with your annoyance!! Good luck and I hope you get your dream garden!
fposte* April 16, 2022 at 9:42 am Ugh, pruning. I’m still bitter about a pair of jobbing master gardeners who took it upon themselves to hack at one of my Japanese maples, which was 20 yards away from the bed they were hired for and absolutely not in scope–and they 1) didn’t know you can’t tip prune a Japanese maple and 2) cut branches off leaving 3 inch stumps. Master effing gardeners indeed.
Sundial* April 16, 2022 at 11:46 am There was a McDonald’s built in my area on land with gorgeous trees, and they hacked the living hell out of them in the most ridiculous fashion. Ever since, when we see garbage incompetent trimming done, we point it out as “McPruning”.
Yes Please* April 16, 2022 at 10:56 pm Oh no! I would have been weeping when I asked them why they did that!
Falling Diphthong* April 16, 2022 at 7:42 am 1) My husband and his brother and sister jointly own the old house where they grew up. Even though his sister lives there, there is sadly definitely a huge benefit to having a brother be point on any “negotiating with the well digger” type stuff. 2) It sounds like you might want to start with a garden designer? They could provide you with a plan–low maintenance plants, no trees in the wrong spot. With luck, they could also recommend someone for the walkway, the deck, and any major digging. Treat the physical work as discrete jobs (it would be great if one awesome company did them all, but you don’t seem to be finding that option) and find someone who just focuses on design for the overall design.
Not So NewReader* April 16, 2022 at 7:43 am I worked in a nursery for almost a decade. Respectfully, I think your list requires a specialist in the field. For the most part when landscapers see things such as “no trees that drop leaves into the air conditioner” they throw their hands up in the air and run away. See, in this arena it’s pretty well known that people will call up if ONE leaf ends up in their AC and complain and complain. This may not be you, but they have no way of knowing that. Folks who make such detailed stipulations have a rep (right or wrong) of being too hard to please/satisfy. They end up costing the contractor out of pocket, that is, the contractor loses money in the long run. So yes, the contractors are only hitting a couple of your points because this is more service than they offer. They are actually bowing out- they probably do not want your project. I am sorry to say this, I hope you continue reading- I can explain why and then I have suggestions on what to do differently. Going one by one here: Low maintenance and low water plants. Low maintenance is in the eyes of the beholder. Nursery people can consider something that needs work once or twice a year as low maintenance. Customers can consider low maintenance as plants that never need anything. It’s hard to know where on the scale a person is. Low water plants are almost a specialty. Not everyone gets into figuring out what those plants would be. If the contractor is not familiar with selecting such plants, they are going to shy away from your job. Pavers. This one is easy. They should be used to putting in pavers. Replace the deck. This actually might require a carpenter. Nursery people probably might not be interested in this task because their staff does not have that skill set. They might be able to recommend someone who they have worked with in the past on joint projects. For this one you are looking for a nursery company that also does decking. OR you are looking at a regular contractor. Some places may have on-going relationships with one or more builders, they team up and work together to help a customer. It’s possible to find these loose partnerships that work well. Don’t block the view from a first floor window. So you want short things. This combined with low water plants really cuts down on the number of choices. If people are not familiar with low water choices, this adds one more layer to the complexity of sorting out what to get. No trees that drop leaves into an AC. No one can prevent acts of nature. I had a lady who wanted me to absolutely 100% promise her rhodos would be the exact same color every year. I said nope. For one thing flowers change color as they grow then age. Soil composition and how well the plants are taken care of can also impact blooms. Mother Nature is much stronger than I or my employer will ever be. I’d recommend planning that leaves WILL fall into the AC and an annual check will be necessary. What to do: Look for a planner/ designer who is very familiar with low water plants. Walk the property with them and point out what it is you want. Hire a different party to do your deck. Let go of saying no leaves in the AC and keep an annual maintenance plan for the AC. I can almost promise you that if you let go of this one requirement you will start seeing more interest. Build a separate maintenance plan for the AC. You might be interested in having the nursery come back each spring and fall to maintain the property for you. Nurseries have many people who use the company to set up the landscape design and they come back each year to have the company maintain it. I hope I do not leave you cringing too hard or upset with me. I learned a lot working in a nursery. They can afford to walk away from customers if they do not think they will satisfy the customer. The same goes with carpenters/contractors. It’s been a good thing to know in my life and very helpful in dealing with my house. I wanted someone to help with my house. The person who came to help impressed me right off the bat when he said, “I don’t do high roofs, furnaces or plumbing.” Thank you for telling me upfront, I said. I knew what he was doing from my years in the nursery. Just as every person has limits, businesses also have limits. He did help me search for reputable people who would actually do those things. See, some of what you are paying for is integrity- people with ethics lead you to more people with ethics. That is because their reputation rests on the good work the recommended company does. If they recommend a jerk to you, then they look like jerks, too. I understand your frustration, but I think if you break this down in a manner similar to what I have here, you will get what you are looking for.
I just want contractors to listen!* April 16, 2022 at 2:48 pm I’ve gotten bids from “full service” companies that advertise they do all those things. They even advertise expertise in xeriscaping. So if they’re not choosing the right plants because they don’t actually have that knowledge, that’s on them, not me. Also, what I asked for was “no deciduous trees with branches that will spread over the AC” so putting one with a 15 foot spread placing the trunk 3 feet away is just stupid. If they have issues with what I ask for, any one of them could have SAID SO when I spent at least an hour (and in one case three hours) on site walking and measuring the area. So I agree, if any of them had said “I don’t do that” it would have been much better than ignoring me and wasting their time working up a detailed drawing and estimate. Don’t play games with me. Or just be honest on the web site and don’t put decks, xeriscape, etc on your list of services in the first place.
Two Cents* April 17, 2022 at 8:22 am Even though you are right, you’re not being realistic. It would be a bad business move to reject you outright when there’s a chance that you could see their revised design and say “Alright, I’m good with 3/5.” Just because these guys may not be up to your standards for decks, xeriscaping, etc, doesn’t mean that clients with less specific or complex needs aren’t satisfied by their level of expertise in the field. You can either be a stick in the mud about how things should be and get nowhere or you can accept that this is how things are and move forward. Splitting things up will be your best bet.
BlueWolf* April 16, 2022 at 8:46 am All the walls in my house are a terrible builder’s gray that I really don’t like. It’s a bit too dark and it’s a really matte finish which is fine in some places but not for high traffic areas. I wish I had just repainted some rooms before we moved in. Now, repainting would be much more of a hassle. I did at least repaint our bathroom last year, since it’s small and I could have at least one room with a different color. I picked a light green color. The shower tile is a dark blue and my fiancé said it looks like an Easter egg lol, but I like it. For our guest room/my home office I tried to pick out some colorful furnishings and have plants and artwork to brighten things up.
I'm A Little Teapot* April 16, 2022 at 11:10 am I solve this problem by doing the planning and legwork myself. I’m not asking them to make decisions – I’m asking them to do x, y and z, and those things are very specific. If there are specific things that I need their input on to decide, then it’s a conversation between me and the contractor, and I don’t call back contractors who can’t respect me as a person. Yes, it’s more work, but this way I get what I want.
Generic Name* April 16, 2022 at 12:23 pm Echoing the other comments, it sounds like you need a general contractor to manage different trades for each of the tasks, or you need to be your own GC and hire probably 3 different companies (one for deck, one for paving, one for landscaping). If you have the budget, hire a landscape architect to do the plan and work with the GC to get it implemented to your exact specifications.
I just want contractors to listen!* April 16, 2022 at 2:37 pm These ARE general companies that advertise that all of what I want is what they do. Including landscape design.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 2:44 pm Then when you talk with a new one, I’d emphasize that in the past, quotes haven’t addressed all of your requests, and so it’s really important to you that each of these points be addressed in the quote. I’d literally provide them with a bulleted list, and say that unless they can do each thing, you won’t use them.
Not So NewReader* April 16, 2022 at 3:54 pm I can be a bit of a plant snob, so FWIW, no, general contractors cannot do specialized landscaping. They say they can because they do not actually know what specialized landscaping actually is- their scope is … well… general. They don’t know what it is that they don’t know. I have dealt with a lot of people in working on my house and it is amazing to see the knowledge gaps. I am not surprised by websites over stating what is being offered. I have seen many landscape jobs go the way you describe- a 15 ft tree 3 feet from an AC. smh. I understand. This happens more often than not.
Chaordic One* April 16, 2022 at 2:59 pm Um, there really isn’t a nice way to say this, but you really are asking for an awful lot. I don’t know where you live, but you might very well have problems finding a general contractor to handle an ambitious project like this if you don’t live in a more urban area. And of course, it goes without saying that it is going to be pretty spendy no matter what you do. Echoing what the other commentators have said, this is probably something that you should break down into a series of smaller projects. And yes, it’s going to be more work than if you could just find a single business to do all of these things for you. Maybe get the deck built first, then put in the paver, and finally get the plants and garden put in. Sometimes, you might be able to find a landscaping architect, a landscaper, or even a competent gardener with a knowledge of low-maintenance plants, but such people are scarce and hard to find. IME many gardening centers are not very much help either, especially the national chain stores. However, an often overlooked resource for advice about gardening and choosing plants that I’ve found helpful is your local County Extension Office. Most areas will have a County Extension Office or similar governmental office offering information and advice about gardening and plant. Any place I’ve lived in the U.S., the Extension Offices have been able to offer a wealth of information about low-maintenance, drought-resistant native plants. (Though, I will say that they tend to do an appalling bad job of publicizing their services.) Xerioscaping is very popular where I live and actively promoted by my extension office. Something to consider.
SofiaDeo* April 16, 2022 at 10:03 pm 1) do the research for low maintenance/low water plants and trees yourself using county Extensions Service, utilities if you don’t have a well (many cities are giving customers ideas/info for “water wise” plants), or local/state gardening clubs. Then you can simply hire someone to install your choices, or at least to dig/prep the holes. 2) Pavers can be done by a landscaping company. Big box stores have contractors they use/recommend, local landscaping supply places often have a corkboard where locals put up their cards. Knowing what brand/colors you want ahead of time will be helpful, no one will do a bid without knowing the brand because there are different requirements for placing/backing them properly. Sometimes the “brand” you want to use will list local installers on their website. Easier to decide on the paver you want, then hire someone rxperienced with that brand to install. 3) Deck from someone who does decking. Again, local supply places & big box stores will have people they use/recommend if you purchase from them. Do you want all wood? Trex? Wood with metal railing? Concrete with metal rail? Deciding this ahead of time makes it easier to get a bid. 4) figure out the window/plant heights yourself, and check that when deciding on plants. Because “don’t block the view” is too nebulous. What part of the view? Sidewalk? Something across the street? The horizon? If you can make it easy, that is key. 5) Get a mesh AC condenser cover. Leaves will blow from neighbors even if you have zero trees on your property, unless your AC unit and house are on serious acreage. Even evergreens drip sap, drop seeds & cones, and shed needles that get blown by the wind. Or build a loose box to enclose the AC condenser, especially if you are in a hot sunny place and it has west or south exposure. Keeping the sun off of it will prolong the life more so than a few leaves in the condenser unit (which needs checking/cleaning yearly anyway, hence the mesh to keep 90% of stuff out) The problem with “we do it all” places is as you have noted, they design a vision and want to do that. It’s similar to hiring an Interior Designer and wanting to see/approve all purchases ahead of time. If you act as your own Design Manager, you get what you want. Not what “their vision” is IMO.
Aphrodite* April 16, 2022 at 12:53 am What colors do you have inside your home? Are they colors you love or colors you tend more to just live with for a reason like young children, a decorator’s choice, etc. What colors are where? Why? My favorite color is emerald so my home is white and green. The sofas are emerald, the loveseat is a gorgeous celery, and I have other greens. The home is painted entirely in a gorgeous white, Benjamin Moore’s Chantilly Lace. I am so happy with colors I chose because they don’t just make my heart sing, though they do that, but they are soothing and calming and I never tire of being around them. I.have lived in rentals until I was able to buy my first (and likely last) home rather late in. life and swore that never, ever. again would I have to see “rental” beige, tan, brown, off-white, dark cream or anything in that (to me) depressing range of neutrals. What about you? I’d love to know!
acmx* April 16, 2022 at 1:52 am I have 4 colors: Benjamin Moore Glade Green, a light/pastel purple (its barely purple) in the bedrooms and pale blue in bathrooms and closets (how I bought the house; don’t feel like repainting these lol). The blue and purple are similar in how light they are (can’t think of the word) My door is a deep purple. My houses tend to have lots of color,
light-colours* April 16, 2022 at 2:18 am We pick a theme colour per room. Downstairs kitchen/living room have red and yellow: walls are off white but chairs, cushions, boxes in the closets, curtains, etc are coloured, basically any detail we could pick the colour of. Bedroom and bath room have theme blue/turquoise because that’s my favourite color: curtains, half the walls (other half off white), bed linnen, soap dispenser, etc. Two other small rooms are one purple themed and one green. The previous owners had painted everything dark: dark grey, dark brown,… It gave the house so much less light, even though there’s big windows. First thing we did was repaint in lighter colours and it’s night and day difference (almost literally)
Dark Macadamia* April 16, 2022 at 2:33 am All that green sounds gorgeous! The first house we owned was in Arizona and had a lot of bold desert tones (warm browns, reddish orange, etc). Not necessarily something I would choose now but I liked it so much better than paler neutrals. When we own a home again I want to have a lot of turquoise, red, and grey because I love how they look together and how you can tone it down with more grey and light blue vs going more vibrant with a lot of red and brighter blue.
DistantAudacity* April 16, 2022 at 2:41 am Over time, I seem to have developed a colour scheme, simply by using colours I like! My living room walls are a warm grey (Jotun Washed Linen), with dark warm wooden floors and a cold purple couch, and plants in the windows. My hall has the same floors, with wallpaper (Cole & Son Hummingbird Archive – ivory background) that picks up on some of the same colours. My newly redecorated library/home office/guest room has a completely different wallpaper (from the same maker) on two walls, but again the colours are picked up in more muted shades. :). The wall paint is Jotun Fjær, which is a cool lavendery shade in daylight, with more neutral shelves and furniture. All was done a different times, but a pattern emerges. :) My bedroom I did in more neutral warm grays, with the Ikea hack of painting the wardrobe glass doors to match! Also things are fairly open, so I thought about how it would look together, looking through doorways etc.
Missb* April 16, 2022 at 3:34 am I’ve changed colors over the years. When we first moved in, the trim was all painted some version of white. I found it freeing to paint various colors. We eventually switched the painted trim to a natural (barely stained) fir. I insisted on crown moldings around the windows and doors. I really struggled with finding an unobtrusive color, and ended up with some versions of light beige. More recently, I painted some of the major rooms downstairs a gray that pops with blue or green undertones. I’m kind of over that now and am going to paint a lot of soft white. I can’t remember the BM color but I’ll make it happen later this summer when we have all the furniture moved off the main floor for the sanding of the hardwood. I’m finally getting natural color oak floors. They’re stained dark in two of the rooms, and I’m so over dark floors. We have two dogs; everything shows. Also, it’s good that I do the painting myself otherwise we’d go broke with my random color changes.
Virginia Plain* April 16, 2022 at 4:07 am My bedroom was painted and carpeted by the previous owner but I’m in no rush to change it actually; the walls are a very light sort of mushroom shade; a very pale grey with a brown tinge, or maybe a very light beige with grey tones. No yellowishness at all. The carpet is a slighter darker shade but still that silvery beige tone. A cold light brown, perhaps. It’s actually very restful. I prefer white bedlinen and have replaced the horrible red curtains with huge stiffened pelmets, with light coloured ones with a pattern of pussy willow. My living room has cream walls with a lightly patterned cream paper under the dado rail; one day I will repaper in something a bit more impactful but not too dark. My sofa and chair are upholstered in a very light greyish green, I have a pale green silk shade on a side lamp, and watercolours in soft greens and blues (landscapes). Curtains are a natural fabric with little trees embroidered on in shades of green and cream. Some furniture is dark wood (mahogany, oak) because is is old; I have a rather vintage look and I love it. It has greyish brown laminate wood floors and I need a nice area rug – UK recommendations welcome!
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 5:29 am Most of my house is still the neutrals from when I moved in, but I redid the smallest bedroom from dark charcoal grey with dark wood trim that made it feel the size of a closed shoebox. Now it’s a really pretty spring green with white trim and feels twice as big as it did. I also redid my kitchen a couple years back, and I painted the walls in there bright turquoise. It’s a color that could be too much in many rooms, but so much of my kitchen wall is covered by cabinetry that in there it’s more of an accent. The cabinets are white and the mobile island started out a darkish red, but I put tile-look vinyl decals on parts of it so it looks like red framework with tilework in red, orange and turquoise. So basically my kitchen is white and turquoise with red and orange accents, and that is actually one of my favorite color combinations now. (I have applied it to other things from my favorite skirt to a remote controlled droid. :-P )
UKDancer* April 16, 2022 at 5:35 am I like light neutral colours because they make the rooms look bigger. I tend to go for neutral walls and then use shots of bright colour as accents. My lounge is kind of yellowy cream (the colour is called buttermilk) and I love it. I have purple accents in the rugs and cushions and also reflected in the curtains which I think looks good. The bedroom is yellow because I like sunshiny colours in bedrooms so I always paint my bedroom yellow and get linen to match (white with yellow accents or yellow and gold). The hall is a very light apricot because it’s quite dark so I wanted a light, bright colour. My tiny box room is painted silvery purple because I had the paint left over from my previous flat and was short of money when I moved. It wouldn’t have been my first choice but it does nicely.
I take tea* April 16, 2022 at 6:18 am Our living room has walls painted in a varm yellow with some accents in orange. It sounds wild, and I would never have thought of it myself, but it makes the room so warm and wonderful, like it’s swimming in sunlight even on dull days. I love it. We have wooden book shelves along them and lot of other colours around. It’s not excactly classic Nordic design, but it makes me happy.
I take tea* April 16, 2022 at 6:21 am When we had to design the bathroom we went for yellow there too, a little more subdued, perhaps, and chocholate floor. It looks so nice, and I just feel that people are so boring in their bathroom designs here, usually just white, grey, black and maybe light blue. You usually don’t spend hours in there, be a bit more bold!
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 7:38 am If I were to be painting a room I spend a lot of time in (it’s currently sort of gold-ish beige, with a white chair rail, but between bookcases, art and windows there’s not a lot of wall visible), I think it would be sort of a terra-cotta orange with red accents, similar to your yellow/orange but a little more autumn :) Yours sounds lovely!
I take tea* April 16, 2022 at 5:46 pm To be honest, I don’t see that much of the walls either, for the same reason. But what I see, I like.
Anono-me* April 16, 2022 at 6:36 am From me it isn’t the paint color so much as the paint itself. Good question paint is so much more true to the color and pretty looking. Cheap low quality paint will always be a bit ‘umeh’, no matter the color. I’ve been using BEHR, but the the next time master bedroom will be a splurge with Farrow and Ball (probably a pale blue with one wall darker)
UKDancer* April 16, 2022 at 6:48 am My decorator said that Farrow and Ball are lovely if you apply them with a brush but they don’t go on well with a roller so they’re very time consuming to do properly. I always go for Dulux which is better than B&Q in my view. They have a range called Light and Space which is supposed to make rooms look bigger and lighter. So as my flat is quite small I like this range for making small spaces look bigger. No idea if it works but it’s nice paint and I figured it wouldn’t hurt.
Anono-me* April 17, 2022 at 9:20 pm Thanks, I didn’t know that. I could have been very unpleasantly surprised.
HHD* April 16, 2022 at 6:36 am We’re currently in what we hope will be our last rental, and are never going to have Landlord Beige once we buy. We’re now at a point where we’ve all the furniture we’ll need when we buy, which is mostly greys, teals and shocking pink, with light wood. Our general plan will therefore be to paint in white or pale grey, potentially with a couple of really bright walls. There’s a bit of a “Hinch” look in a lot of houses on the market in the UK at the moment, which is about 400 shades of grey and a lot of velvet. Our plan is to avoid that!
The Other Dawn* April 16, 2022 at 7:02 am My house was built in 1735. 90% of my house has wallpaper, which was here when we bought the house in 2014. It fits with the age of the house so we’ve left it up. I’d love to remove it and paint, but that’s a big undertaking. Especially when there’s cracking, bumpy plaster underneath. The bathrooms have paint and it’s just a boring beige that was here when we moved in. Family room is a drag sage green. I like normally like sage green, but this shade isn’t light and airy. It’s drab. My home office, which is the one room we’ve completely renovated, is Glazed Raspberry with white wainscoting on the bottom half of the wall. My gym (it’s a big pre-fab shed outside) is Sonic Plum, which is a gorgeous bright purple. I have white trim. I’d love my bedroom to be some shade of gray since it has a white chair rail and the bottom half of the wall is white. Right now it’s a boring tan. The other rooms, I’m not sure.
HQB* April 16, 2022 at 11:13 am There are paintable, embossed wallpapers. If you wanted to, you could apply another layer of wallpaper and then get exactly the color you want.
Constance Lloyd* April 16, 2022 at 7:45 am We rent and aren’t able to paint, but our walls are covered with concert posters. It’s a lovely explosion of color and they’re grouped somewhat by color scheme, so the end result is rooms with different color themes from moody blues to neon pinks and greens.
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 8:27 am I appreciate the juxtaposition of “concert posters” and “moody blues” :)
Constance Lloyd* April 16, 2022 at 9:05 am The moody blues definitely accompany some moody music! Most of them are from the same Nashville printer and the range of colors and artwork are incredible haha
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 9:27 am When I was wee, the only cassette tape we had in my house (or at least the only one I had access to) was The Moody Blues “The Other Side of Life” album, so that’s what the phrase made me think of :)
Falling Diphthong* April 16, 2022 at 7:46 am For paint I tend toward water shades, which I find soothing. The dining room, where I’m sitting, is pale green, and the nearby living room is a blue-grey I loved from a relative’s house on the water. Furniture tilts more toward “what is functional and, then, an okay color?” so the soft furniture is a navy blue because that was the color the chair/sofa came in that I considered okay. Slate blue and red.
Put the Blame on Edamame* April 16, 2022 at 7:56 am My kind of question! My flat is all white and wood inside so I decorated in a pjnk/earthen palette with gold and green pops.
Nopity Nope* April 16, 2022 at 9:36 am Bright colors! While I love to look at pictures of rooms with lovely greys, mossy greens, and muted blues, I can’t pull it off. I love my bright yellow living room, bright blue kitchen, and bright purple bedroom! Small house, so sadly no room that I can paint bright red. There’s no overall plan, just colors that appeal to me. Sophisticated? Nope. Happy and cheerful? You betcha!
I take tea* April 16, 2022 at 3:02 pm It sounds nice. I like colours too. I once lived in an apartment with one wall painted a deep tomato soup red. It would have been too much for the whole room, but just the one worked well.
Kathenus* April 16, 2022 at 10:11 am I bought a house with grey paint mostly throughout – not my favorite but all newly painted so wasn’t going to pay to repaint. Thought about a couple of accent walls but instead I got full size murals on one wall in each of two rooms – one is woods in fall and one is a forest waterfall scene – love them! And I really like wall art so in most of the other spaces I just have lots of stuff on the walls that makes me happy. As to colors, when I bought my house it was being renovated, and the builder/owner asked what color I wanted the front door. I had never even thought of anything like that, and ended up going bold with a very bright green (in a blue house) – and that green is now my accent color throughout my house and it still makes me smile to see it.
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 11:38 am I love monochromatic schemes – and neutrals – so both my bedroom and bathroom are wallpapered in a beige-on-cream faux-stone pattern, which works well with the woodwork. The bathroom has white accents and the bedroom has cream nubby-woven curtains and a burgundy-and-gold quilt for the bed, so not *entirely* beige. It’s been that way for a couple of decades now and I still enjoy the way it looks – though the cats have started “testing” the wallpaper in places, so I may need to do some redecorating in future… I do have a “blue room” which still bears the tiny-pattern slightly-grey-blue-with-white-accents wallpaper that it had when I bought the house in 1982; it’s a bit worse for wear (see time *and* cats), but I like the color and the small pattern. (It’s my computer-room/craft-materials room.) I put a blue Bokhara-style rug in the room to match the wallpaper.
Bluebell* April 16, 2022 at 11:50 am When we moved into our house 20 years ago, I liked most of the paint colors. Changed two though – bedroom 1 was phone book yellow, and the dining room was mauve below the chair rail. I know a great interior painter, so we’ve painted some of our rooms more than once. She’s helped with color selection too. Bedroom 1 has been light peach and is now a pale yellow, living room is 3 walls of bluish gray, with a claret color accent wall, dining room is light green under the chair rail. Bedroom 2/study has been green, white, and is now “Cancun sand.” The small den is still its original dark green, but that may be painted in the future. The kitchen is light grey, but the cabinets are a blue I picked custom. We mostly use Benjamin Moore, as their store is the closest to us.
Girasol* April 16, 2022 at 11:53 am Our color is in the furniture. I always liked the look of traditional ranger’s cabin white with forest green, so all our thrifted pine furnishings that were once a hodgepodge of odd colors got painted and stenciled in those colors.
Sundial* April 16, 2022 at 11:53 am My rooms fall into two categories: a bright cheerful cool tone (mostly blue or purple) or a version of beige the last owner chose that I have not had the time/budget to cover yet. That woman was terrified of pigment.
small town* April 16, 2022 at 2:59 pm This is a great question! My house is from 1920. Central hall is a dark cream, formal dining room burgundy above the wainscoting. Living room and kitchen/family dining a celery green, first floor family room the dark cream, powder room a periwinkle blue. Second floor: master bedroom periwinkle, younger child’s room teal, older child white (their choices), master bath buttercup yellow above the subway tile, movie and football watching room pale blue, meditation room sky blue including the ceiling, laundry porch white, entire third floor white. Children’s bathroom sea green. Stairwells and halls on the top 2 floors white. Most of the paint is Benjamin Moore but the only name I remember is the green, called pickle.
California Dreamin’* April 16, 2022 at 3:34 pm We love color on our walls! A lot of our house still has paint from when we moved in and painted everything, so some rooms need updating. But right now we have the foyer is a deep jewel tone red, living room and dining room are warm gold (all open to each other.). Hallway is a warm cream. Kitchen/mud room are French or country blue. Master bedroom is kind of a sagey green. Second bedroom is a beautiful deep olive above the chair rail. Oldest son chose it when we moved in and younger son kept it when he moved to that room. Daughter’s room is taupe and she hates it. It was originally my dad’s room and neutral was good for him, but now that teen daughter lives there, she’s begging for new paint. Her bathroom was recently remodeled in shades of gray, so we need a bedroom color that looks nice with gray but isn’t gray! Last bedroom was originally a warm sand colored home office, then was celery green for years as a nursery/kids room, now is back to the warm sand office again! Master bath and common area bath were both remodeled with very decorative Mexican tile so have neutral walls.
Chaordic One* April 16, 2022 at 4:22 pm Your house sounds lovely. I have different rooms in my house painted blue, green, yellow and lavender with white ceilings and trim. I tend not to care for red, but I have a few smaller pieces of furniture and some pillows that are red and that “pop” in the yellow room. Also some furniture and pillows that are gold-colored. They might be considered theme colors for each room. I sort of worry that the house might look a big dated, say 1980s or even 1960s, but I like it, I’m comfortable in it and that’s the important thing. I really am tired of all the beiges and greys. Lately I’ve been getting a lot of spam from Basset Furniture (I don’t know why) and the rooms and the furniture featured are all so disappointingly very beige.
Qwerty* April 16, 2022 at 6:13 pm I have a thread of color tying the rooms together. Unexpectedly it is light green, which I don’t have a particular affinity for, but it goes with my themes and helps with apartment living + open concept layouts. Sadly I have no control over wall color but look forward to bright neutrals when I can get them because I like having the option to redecorate without repainting (despite using the same color scheme in 10 apartments over 15 years) My kitchen is Tuscan themed – red for larger items like Kitchenaid mixer, kettles, wine rack, etc. Light green for smaller things. Wine + herb themed cross decorations My living room space is light blue with help from light green accents, which lead to the bathroom which is light blue + white shower curtain and pictures. Or take a turn the bedroom which is turquoise, pink, and light green. So that one color makes it feel like there’s a flow to the apartment.
Ali G* April 16, 2022 at 9:17 pm Us too! We love green. The majority of our house if BM Simply White (we also looked and Chantilly White) and various greens. We just completely renovated our kitchen and our lowers and pantry cabinets are Farrow and Ball Smoke Green. Most of our furniture is neutral but we use the green everywhere!
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 8:50 am Another fan of green, I find that the sage/mint shades are the most soothing colors. Of course bright greens can also pop and energize but I always want my home to feel calm.
allathian* April 17, 2022 at 2:08 am Our walls are some sort of painter’s white, our laminate floor has a light wood pattern. The bathrooms have slate-gray tiles on the floor and warm sandy-colored tiles on the walls. Our kitchen is white with slate-gray floor tiles and stainless steel appliances. We like neutral colors, and save the spot colors for things like throws and cushions on our dark brown couches.
Littorally* April 17, 2022 at 7:21 am Navy blue, teal, and silver/grey. When I first got my place, most of my furniture & linens were mismatched hand-me-downs but as I’ve been gradually replacing those with purpose-bought items, I’m bringing them into line with my preferred color scheme.
Marion Ravenwood* April 17, 2022 at 10:09 am My flat is currently mostly based around blues and yellows, with a bit of (darker) grey and mid- to dark brown wood details. I mainly picked that as I like blue and yellow and feel grey works well with both of those as a neutral to balance it out. The mid-brown wood is mainly because I don’t like super-light/blonde woods or anything too dark and heavy, but I also feel it goes well with the other colour choices.
Hobie's people* April 17, 2022 at 10:24 am Varying shades of grey in the main “path” – kitchen, family room, bedroom, master bath. Rocking jewel tones everywhere else and featuring a beautiful green in my office (redone during the pandemic to be more calming than the previous sunshine yellow).
MommaCat* April 17, 2022 at 11:35 am So, our walls are a lavender-tinted white with regular white trim, which I love because it can look warm or cool depending on what’s next to it. We have a neutral, mid-shade blue for our carpet, and a regular white for our ceiling, so it makes the room feel bigger and reflects the available light really well. We don’t really have pops of color aside from kid toys, but we definitely tend towards warm wood tones, black, and bronze.
Aphrodite* April 16, 2022 at 1:18 am Another home question. If your apartment or home has a guest room that isn’t really used for a guest room (because you almost never have overnight guests even. pre-Covid), what are you using it for? I have one which is partially furnished as a guest room but it seems like wasted space. I don’t want to use it for crafts or sewing or an office or workout space (none of which I need) and I really don’t need it or want it for “storage” which I also don’t need. I’d like it to be pretty but beyond that very fuzzy concept lies the truth: I really have no ideas for it.
acmx* April 16, 2022 at 1:57 am How about a library? Or a sitting room, dressing room (clothes, vanity, shoes), 2nd dining area maybe more along the lines of a bistro set. Paint a mural, gallery wall of pictures ? My spare rooms are office and one is essentially storage but space for a guest.
light-colours* April 16, 2022 at 2:25 am If you don’t need the room, you can just leave it as-is. Your life will change, you might need it later for something you don’t even know yet. We have a currently empty room in our house. It holds two guest beds we got for free second hand from a relative, and in all the years we’ve been here, only once did one guest sleep in it. But we keep it that way because we don’t need the space at the moment. Maybe we’ll get a kid someday and then it can be their bedroom. Maybe we’ll start a hobby that needs lots of space and then we can make that the hobby room. It’s not any burden to have the room “empty” so for now it’s just options for the future.
The Prettiest Curse* April 16, 2022 at 3:51 am There’s a large spare room in my house (over my garage). It’s down the hall from the guest bathroom and it gets really cold in winter, so it’s not really suitable to be used as a guest room. We’re currently using it for additional bookshelf space, another wardrobe for out-of-season clothes (our main built-in wardrobe is small) and some storage shelves. We’re currently planning on buying a small sofa for that room to make it a back-up living room. I think it’s good to have a space which allows you to relax alone, away from the person you live with, and we are very fortunate to have that one extra room that allows it.
Virginia Plain* April 16, 2022 at 4:19 am Are you a book person? Could it be a library and reading room, with bookcases, a special comfy chair and footstool, a desk (a pretty one for you to write letters or keep a diary/journal, take up calligraphy, etc, not an office type one)? You could also use it as a little gallery to display pictures or photographs you love, and have shelves etc with things of beauty you have collected. (I have a craft studio but in it I have repurposed a CD tower to display random ornamental things that don’t belong elsewhere; gorgeous tea-light holders; a matryoshka doll, a jade elephant, a small plush frog…) Music perhaps but no tv. A tranquil safe space just for you where nobody else goes.
mreasy* April 16, 2022 at 6:50 am I love having a guest room even though we don’t have guests terribly often. It’s great to have an extra bedroom in the event one of us gets sick or has trouble sleeping, and my cats love it. But we are lucky to have plenty of other space (from an NYC apartment perspective) so there isn’t a specific need we could address with it.
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 7:05 am My house has four bedrooms (two of which are fairly small), a finished basement and did that mid-80s thing of a “living room” and a “family room”. So we’re very fortunate in our space – my housemate sleeps and works in the basement (he has a bedroom and a rec room/office space both down there), my husband and I sleep in the master bedroom, the other large bedroom is my husband’s office, and one of the two living rooms is my office. So we don’t have any real practical use for the two smallest bedrooms. One is fully set up as a guest room and gets used about 10 nights a year, mostly by my parents, with some misc stuff stored in the closet. The smallest currently has my treadmill and a TV in it, and again storage in the closet, but since the weather and the dog both encourage walking outside these days, that’s not getting used much either. The doors to both stay closed to keep the cats from getting into anything. So mostly I don’t worry about them, and if we get to a point where we actually need either space for something else, I can cross that bridge when we come to it. We occasionally ponder switching housemate and husband for temperature reasons – they are each in the section of the house that matches the other’s preference – in which case husband would office in the basement and housemate would have two bedrooms upstairs (one for sleeping and one for office), but the boys keep deciding that would be way too much work to move furniture and electronics and such, so I currently just ignore them when they whine about temperature :P
Asenath* April 16, 2022 at 8:28 am I never set a room aside for guests! When I was doing a lot of sewing, I had a sewing room. Until the last move and downsized, I had an office/library/computer room. The “second bedroom” where I am now would only accommodate a very small guest, so it became the cats’ room – cat litter and miscellaneous storage. The cats actually mostly live in the rest of the place, which is obviously the best place to spread around the cat toys and climb the window shades.
Dwight Schrute* April 16, 2022 at 9:47 am I think I’d turn it into a library or display collections or both!
NotBatman* April 16, 2022 at 10:15 am My childhood home had a completely empty, ~15′ x 15′ carpeted room. Every Sunday we’d to put my four-year-old brother in the middle of the floor, position the two parents and two older siblings at each corner, and then yell “CHARGE!” The person who succeeded in picking my brother up first won the cinnamon roll from the middle of the batch. Not a serious suggestion, but your question brought back the memory of all the wrestling matches.
Heffalump* April 16, 2022 at 11:11 pm I wouldn’t turn up my nose at one of the other, non-middle-of-the-batch cinnamon rolls!
Tib* April 16, 2022 at 11:39 am We have a convertible day bed in our guest bedroom and the room also has a door to the attic. Most of the time it serves as a way station for things on their way to or from the attic. During the worst of the pandemic shutdowns, I turned the bed into more of a couch by covering some mdf squares with felt and using them as back cushion supports. It made a great private, non-office space to video chat and watch movies.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain* April 16, 2022 at 11:49 am Does it have good natural light and air circulation, and do you like plants? Maybe have a “conservatory”. With grow lights and possibly a humidifier you could use it as an indoor garden or a space to winter plants that can’t be outdoors.
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 12:01 pm Mine’s a library, with shelves around the walls, a desk (that I seldom use but don’t want to get rid of just yet), and a small sofabed. I leave enough room so that the sofabed can be unfurled when needed without my having to shuffle furniture.
RussianInTexas* April 16, 2022 at 12:23 pm One used as my office for WFH, and the other is “Room of Requirements”- basically all the boxes and stuff that were never unpacked in the 7 years since we moved in. I have plans for making it to the other home office for my partner so he can stop camping out in the dining room (to be fair, we never use it as a dining room either), but he haven’t really put up any initiative towards it, so it’s on the call burner.
Little beans* April 16, 2022 at 12:28 pm Haha, we use ours as a closet for unfolded laundry. But it was supposed to be a mini home gym, with equipment that could be folded up/put away when we have guests.
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 1:18 pm I’d like to have a space for guests if I ever have more than one extra bedroom again. It was inconvenient to sleep on the sofa and give them my room. I probably would have invited people over more often if I did. My house had two (small) bedrooms; I meant to fit one with an extra bed, but I never got to it. Room 2 would have also needed a window AC since it was on the south side of the house and somewhat warm in summer. At various times, it functioned as a storage room, an office, and a craft/sewing room. The closet contained out-of-season clothing and extra random stuff—I also had two spillover bookshelves in it. The dream: to have a dedicated studio/writing space like the miniaturist main character had in the film Hereditary. All those beautiful shelves and workspaces!
I'm A Little Teapot* April 16, 2022 at 4:32 pm I have 2.5 rooms like this. One is the guest room, some storage, that’s where the new kitty was when he arrived, etc. The 2nd room is the camera computer (interesting neighbor, and not in a good way), the litterbox is in there, a chest and dresser for towel/sheet/blanket storage, and the sewing machine. The .5 room is the most deliberately put together room, that is my desk and bookcases. In summary: I mostly don’t need any of these rooms, but they are there and are available space as needed.
Dwight Schrute* April 17, 2022 at 8:28 am I’m assuming it’s for security cameras to make sure the neighbor doesn’t do anything sketchy?
I'm A Little Teapot* April 17, 2022 at 2:22 pm I have zero interest in even seeing my neighbor, ever. No, these cameras cover my property, and do pick up some of their property because it’s there and that’s how cameras work. I’ve caught them stealing from me, various property damage, all sorts of verbal abuse, and the real highlight was the day they had 2 mature trees on my property cut down. It’s an insurance policy. They know the cameras are there, I made zero attempt to hide them. If they want to be crappy and do illegal things, that’s their decision – but it’ll be on camera. They probably do know what the cameras pick up because I sued them, and provided a bunch of footage from the cameras as evidence. If they watched any of it they know what the cameras can record.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 16, 2022 at 4:38 pm Not for everyone, but host an exchange student, house a refugee, foster animals for the local shelter?
E. Chauvelin* April 16, 2022 at 8:51 pm My husband basically uses the guest bed as his closet rather than put most of his laundry away. (We each do our own, if we ever actually need the guest bed it’s his job to clear it off, the rest of the time it is not my problem.) I use the closet in the guest room to store my various steampunk/historical reenactment clothes.
E. Chauvelin* April 16, 2022 at 8:52 pm (There are other rooms in our house that are officially bedrooms that are an office and a library, the “guest room” is the one that has a bed in it and could ostensibly be used for that purpose.)
KR* April 16, 2022 at 11:28 pm My rental is way too big for what we need. We have 1 bedroom which is the guest room/litter box room (we don’t have many guests over so we just clean it & move the box before we have guests over), 1 that is my husbands hobby room and storage room for his work gear and hobby stuff, and 1 that is my home office and also storage for my sentimental stuff. We don’t use 2 of the rooms a lot and they’re very empty but that’s ok.
allathian* April 17, 2022 at 2:18 am Our 3-person family has 5 bedrooms for 3 people… We’ve lived in this house for 10 years and so far we’ve never hosted any overnight guests, mainly because we live in the same city as my parents and in-laws, so the people we see most often don’t need it. My friends, and my husband’s friends, also either live nearby, or stay at a hotel when they visit. I’m a very poor sleeper and hate sleeping with anyone else in the same room, so my husband sleeps in what’s essentially our guestroom, which doubles as my office. I sleep in the master bedroom, and my husband’s office and our stationary bike are in our son’s bedroom, and he has another room with a computer, games console and TV, as well as a desk for doing his homework. The last bedroom is our library/movie room with a projector and an 100 in silver screen.
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 8:51 am The nursery in my house is now the crafts room. Games, knitting and quilting, wrapping, and art supplies all live in there now, and there’s a desk to work in. Love it.
MeepMeep02* April 17, 2022 at 4:07 pm Another vote for “reading room”. My guest room is my quiet retreat to read and cuddle with the cats.
anonnie* April 16, 2022 at 1:34 am I’m glad the book recommendations are back! I missed them the last 2 weeks. Hope everything is well with you and yours, AAM!
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 11:58 am Me too! The Lifeguards sounds like something I’d enjoy – for dark-and-traumatic values of “enjoy”, anyway. (The description reminded me of another book, THE DINNER by Herman Koch, in which two families try to cope with what turns out to be devastating behavior from their teenaged sons.)
Loves libraries* April 17, 2022 at 2:26 pm I absolutely loved What Happened to the Bennets by Lisa Scottoline.
matcha123* April 16, 2022 at 1:45 am Do you guys have any good responses to, “Well, why didn’t you XYZ?” type questions? Hindsight is 20/20 and since one cannot change the past, we can only work toward preparing for the future with the knowledge that our current selves have. I am prone to berating my past self for things, and I have spent many years working on my responses. That is fine and well for me, but I am having trouble navigating this with others when something happens. “Something” doesn’t happen every day or month, fyi. But I’ve recently had an issue happen and when I seek advice or some kind encouragement, a few people instead ask why I didn’t study XYZ in university; why I didn’t get married; why I didn’t move to ABC location. And I end up feeling frustrated and it pulls me back to a spot where I beat myself up. At times the questioning trail leads back to things my grandparents did and it’s exhausting. (ie- “Why didn’t your grandparents buy a home in XYZ city instead of EFG? Then they would have been able to blah-blah…” I can’t answer for decisions I wasn’t alive for!) I have pulled back on contacting or replying to the most egregious offenders, but I don’t see these types of questions ever stopping. Do you have people in your lives who engage in this behavior? Do you change the topic? Refrain from speaking about your private life?
Lemonwhirl* April 16, 2022 at 1:57 am I have a tendency to try to combine bluntness with humour to let people know that they’ve asked a dumb question. Something along the lines of “I don’t have a time machine to go back and do things differently. Do you have any ideas that don’t require me to challenge the laws of physics?” The other tendency I have to ask questions about their questions, to try to figure out if they’re curious and trying to understand me or if they’re just being a bit judgy. “Interesting question – why do you ask? How do you think things would be different now?” And if I think I can pull off the tone (which honestly, I struggle with tone, so if I’m at any way worked up, I don’t even try), I might say something like “How is asking that question helpful now?” But honestly, if someone asks questions like that all the time, that’s not helpful or supportive and I would probably move them into “acquaintance” in my mind and not ask them for advice or talk to them about things that are important to me. I hope you have other people in your life who show more support and care for your feelings.
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 5:33 am Yes – “Why didn’t you (blah)?” “Sorry, I left my time machine in my other pants, so that ship has sailed.”
Janet Pinkerton* April 16, 2022 at 7:25 am Yes—I often say “I don’t have a time machine, and even if I did, I wouldn’t use it for this.” The other sort of response I might give is a curt look with “Because I didn’t.” No explanation, just “what, are you kidding me?” vibes.
TangerineRose* April 16, 2022 at 12:46 pm “But honestly, if someone asks questions like that all the time, that’s not helpful or supportive and I would probably move them into “acquaintance” in my mind and not ask them for advice or talk to them about things that are important to me.” This!
Two Cents* April 17, 2022 at 9:32 am The best response to a repeat offender isn’t humor because they’ll either think it’s okay or think you’re rude. (The time machine comment and any use of humor to say something without saying it outright is usually the latter to me.) The best response is exactly what you said later: “To be honest with you, asking questions like that isn’t helpful or supportive – it feels a bit judgy. Is that what you’re intending?”
Not A Manager* April 16, 2022 at 2:31 am I would look quizzical and say, “I have no idea. Why do you ask?” If they press on with “well then things would be different now,” I think the response is, “probably, but they’re not different now so this is where I’m at.” Honestly, these people sound exhausting. Is there something wrong with letting a little bit of annoyance show? “I can’t answer for my decisions in college, and I certainly can’t answer for my grandparents’ decisions. Let’s just not talk about this anymore.” If they’re not going to be helpful, let them at least be quiet.
Virginia Plain* April 16, 2022 at 4:25 am “I/They did what was right for them. I/They did what made sense at the time. I’m sure they had good reasons. I chose based on what was important to me back then. We’re fine with how things have worked out. Actually I’m glad I didn’t do xyz. You know if I’d done differently I would have missed out on [good thing]. Well, we can only try our best!” Or if you are over being polite…”you know what, you’re quite right. I’ll just get in my Delorian and go back to 1992 and pick a different degree course; have you got any plutonium?”
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 8:54 am Your first answer is the best answer because it sounds like that’s what the OP needs to remind themselves: “I made the best choice I could with the information I had at the time.”
Expiring Cat Memes* April 16, 2022 at 5:12 am You already have it right there in your question: “Well, hindsight is 20/20 isn’t it?”, delivered with whatever degree of warmth or sarcasm the situation merits, [subject change].
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 7:35 am Also, “why didn’t your grandparents (whatever)” is just a really stupid question, and you have full validation to look at that person and go “You are aware, yes, that I was not even alive at the time that they made that decision, so how on god’s green earth should I know?”
Forensic13* April 16, 2022 at 8:08 am Honestly I’m a monster so I give equally absurd answers to what I feel are absurd questions, but I realize this is not a thing most people can/want to do. “Why are you so short?” Aliens.” (Yes, this was a real exchange.) “Why didn’t your grandparents buy in that city?” “Oh, terrified of the moles. Lots of moles in that city. Couldn’t handle the tiny potholes everywhere.”
machinedreams* April 16, 2022 at 12:04 pm This reminds me of what I do when I get those “we are trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty” calls. if I’m in enough of a mood, I’ll make it put me through to a person. I’ll let them get going and then I’m like “So… does this mean you’re giving me a car, too? I don’t drive.” It throws them off SO MUCH.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 16, 2022 at 4:40 pm If you don’t drive, they’d better be providing you a driver, too! Ask who is responsible for buying the driver one of those driving caps and a jaunty scarf.
Asenath* April 16, 2022 at 8:33 am Mostly my closest friend don’t do this, although sometimes I get the same idea, phrased differently – “Do you ever think it would have been better to…?” “Do you regret doing….?” It never goes back more than my own life, though, or maybe a comment on my parents’ choices. Only the other day when we were discussing jobs way back when, the other person asked if someone had advised or pushed me into a choice that had turned out very badly for me. I stared at her in astonishment and said, no, it was entirely my own idea (which it was), and segued into my usual, almost mocking, “Well, it seemed a good idea at the time.”. Which it did.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 9:30 am You could respond as if they are genuinely interested in the context of your life, and your family history. Not as if they’re offering a time-machine solution, but as if they are seeking understanding. My grandparents moved here because at the time a now-defunct industry made it one of the most prosperous and fast growing cities in the country. I changed my major because I fell in love with a different topic, that made me feel…. I mean, it is a dumb question, but you could *act* like it isn’t, and that would do 3 things: 1) you’d be less annoyed, 2) It could potentially improve your relationship with the asker, and 3) If they don’t really want to have that conversation, they’ll quit asking those kind of questions.
matcha123* April 16, 2022 at 11:57 am I generally do start this way! And I am happy to have the people around me understand my background a little more. But it’s gotten to the point where, in the same conversation, I will have to gently remind them of something I said five minutes earlier. When I feel I’m repeating myself, I try to quickly change the subject to something else. Sometimes it works. I do think that they are mostly trying to provide me with support. However when they have been in similar situations, they lean on their family for support/advice and have a hard time understanding why I can’t do the same. “Yes, my parent did have four other siblings, but they all passed many years ago. Yes, my grandparents passed. No, they did not leave an inheritance. No, I don’t know about any estranged cousins.” and so on.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 1:10 pm Ugh, not listening. Why do they bother at all, one wonders. Sorry you’re dealing with that.
matcha123* April 16, 2022 at 11:46 am Thank you all for the replies. I’ve definitely used the “time machine” one myself recently. Along with “I made a decision based on the knowledge I had at the time.” I’ll continue to use those, and try some of the more humorous ones you all have suggested!
Suprisingly ADHD* April 16, 2022 at 12:13 pm “I’m not going to guess at my grandparents (parents, etc) train of thought at the time. Maybe you should ask them!” (This works even better if the person in question is deceased or out of contact.) “What are you, the cops?” “Why do you need to know?” “Should I write you an essay?” Then when they get offended and say something like “I was just wondering,” “My logic back then doesn’t matter any more. Unless you have a solution for what’s happening NOW, lets move on.” “I’m trying to stop punishing myself for what I did when I was a kid (a teenager, less knowledgeable, etc.). All it does is make me sad about ‘might have been’ instead of grateful about what actually IS.” “I don’t want to rehash the whole thing again, I thought about it enough times back then.” ***When they start telling you what you should do Now: “Thank you, I hadn’t thought of it that way.” Then do whatever you decide is best. When they find out, and ask why you didn’t take their advice, “I considered your advice, and it helped me make a more informed decision.” The takeaway is, you don’t have to give your reasons for ANYTHING. They want to pick apart your reasoning to show why they are superior/smarter/wiser than you. If all they have is the outcome, it’s not as fun for them if they can’t get into the nitty-gritty details.
E. Chauvelin* April 16, 2022 at 8:56 pm If the person in question were deceased, unless I actually knew the story behind their choice and thought the asker genuinely wanted to hear it, I would be tempted to answer with “You’ll have to consult a medium.”
Generic Name* April 16, 2022 at 12:32 pm Those people don’t sound like they are on Team You. If they’re family, and you do want to remain in contact, consider putting them on an “information diet” and don’t count on them for any kind of emotional support. If they insist on berating you for “wrong” choices, deflect, change the topic, or remove yourself from the conversation. If they are friends, you could do all of the above, but also consider if those people are the kind of people you want to allow in your life. For me, the only person who critically asks me why I do stuff is my ex husband, and I don’t respond to those types of messages. I am in contact with him only because we share a minor child, and I will be going no contact with him when our child turns 18.
the cat's ass* April 16, 2022 at 12:46 pm “Why do you ask?” is just such a great rejoinder to all sorts of questions! Sometimes that’s very educational. Sometimes it shuts the conversation down, too.
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 2:57 pm Agree on “Why do you ask?” – I wish I’d learned that one in my youth. One can vary the tone to indicate a friendly interest, a baffled curiosity, a chilly how-dare-you – whichever most applies to your feelings about the person doing the questioning and whether you want to encourage them to think a bit more about intrusive questions or just to go the bleep away…
the cat's ass* April 16, 2022 at 3:11 pm I had occasion to get REALLY pro-level with this question when i adopted my kids. I’m a large red haired old white lady, and my kids are Chinese American, and one is visibly disabled. OMG, the questions people think are okay! And to ask some of those questions IN FRONT OF MY KIDS, you twits. But what’s really great, is when the kids got old enough to really follow the conversation, and started responding themselves. My now 16 yo once answered back to a woman at Target asking “Why you and your mommy don’t match” and riposted with, “well you’ve never seen my dad, but also that’s my personal story and i don’t have to tell it to you!” She was 10 at the time.
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 1:28 pm I’m partial to, “Well my plan would have worked if it weren’t for you meddling kids!”
Former Young Lady* April 16, 2022 at 2:52 pm I like a low-energy “coulda-woulda-shoulda.” It’s a grey-rock way of implying that their non-actionable retroactive advice has, in fact, already occurred to you.
PollyQ* April 16, 2022 at 6:16 pm You gotta find better people, because these ones suck. Those kinds of questions are bad enough when it’s just your choices, but if they’re questioning your grandparents’ choices, then they’re being completely ridiculous. Don’t just weed out the egregious offenders, weed out anyone who starts going down this path. (Politely, I guess, although I’d be mighty tempted to ask them right to their face how they think that kind of discussion is at all useful.) Honestly, I don’t have people who ask me questions like this, and having to quit discussing your life with friends seems like too harsh a restriction on basic human interaction.
Squirrel Nutkin* April 16, 2022 at 11:31 pm My cousin used to do this constantly. It’s not really a question — it’s more like “Since you didn’t make the choices that I believe I would have made, I will now judge you as having everything that has gone wrong be your own fault.” We no longer speak much, and my life is the richer for it. Maybe people who do this are motivated by their own insecurities and their own need to believe that if they just make the “right choices,” nothing bad will ever happen to them, but frankly, I don’t even care. They are not worth the bandwidth it takes to deal with them. Kudos on pulling way back from the people who pull this crap on you. Save your time and energy for people who build you up, not people who tear you down.
Squirrel Nutkin* April 16, 2022 at 11:36 pm P.S. And please try not to beat yourself up when these people are acting like jerks to you. Their rude assumptions that *they* would never have the problem you do is a reflection on their own immaturity, lack of examination of their various kinds of privilege, etc. — it is NOT a reflection on you.
matcha123* April 17, 2022 at 12:15 am Thank you, and I believe you’ve got it. I don’t know why I keep running into these types, although I do have a theory it’s common among a certain type of high-achieving person. And also because I don’t fit their stereotype of how someone with my background should act. These are all people who seem to have good relations with their family and a large, robust extended family that’s always willing to help out. Perhaps part of it is that they assumed being smart was how they achieved success in life, but when they talk with me they realize how much their family actually helped them and feel something about it. The judgmental tone, however, remains.
Not A Manager* April 17, 2022 at 9:15 am From your previous comment, it sounded like you mostly trust these people’s good will. In this comment, it’s not as clear. If you do trust their good will, but you think their own assumptions (and perhaps a feeling about their own privilege) is getting in the way, you could try being more explicit. “I truly don’t have any family or community support for this. I understand that many people do, but please trust me that any suggestions about turning to family are going to be impractical. I really do appreciate your advice and your perspective, but continually trying to uncover some kind of hidden family support upsets me and really doesn’t address my situation.” In my experience, part of this type of hectoring is people who just don’t believe that you have complete information about your own life, so they do that weird Socratic dialogue thing. Sometimes naming what they are doing and being firm about why it’s not helpful, can reset the tone of the conversation. If it doesn’t, then I think this person just isn’t a good resource for this particular issue.
Scarlet Magnolias* April 17, 2022 at 1:42 pm like my standard reply when people ask me about my psoriasis in that “What did you dooooo to yourself” tone. I smile and tell them it’s leprosy and it’s contagious
justabot* April 17, 2022 at 4:11 pm I think you need a few different responses in your toolbox to pull for different situations. Sometimes you may want to be more honest/vulnerable, other times you just want to deflect, sometimes you want to tell them the topic if off limits or that they are being rude, etc. Some days you may feel more mentally strong to shut down a conversation and call it out for what it is, some days it might feel very triggering to talk about, or the person asking might not have any empathy or understanding to give anything more than an abrupt response. There’s no one way. If someone asks why you didn’t get married, you can answer anything from, “I never met the right partner” to “how do you know I haven’t been married?” or “That’s a bit personal, don’t you think?” to “oh wow, I forgot to do that!” to “Why did you?” or if you want to shame them a bit back for asking, “I’m surprised you felt comfortable asking me that.” As Brene Brown says, not everyone deserves to hear our stories. “Our stories are not meant for everyone. Hearing them is a privilege, and we should always ask ourselves this before we share: Who has earned the right to hear my story?”
A.N. O'Nyme* April 16, 2022 at 3:04 am Writing thread! How’s everyone’s writing going? As usual this is not limited to fiction writing, any writing goes. Not much recreationally for me this week, just a few loose scenes here and there.
Girasol* April 16, 2022 at 12:15 pm Thanks to some encouragement from RagingADHD in this thread last week, my story is coming along much better!
Put the Blame on Edamame* April 16, 2022 at 1:01 pm Oof I’m behind but hoping to pick up my short story this weekend.
Princesa* April 16, 2022 at 1:05 pm Mine is going well this week! I feel like I’m on the verge of hitting a slump, but I wrote a few chapters over the past week that I feel good about. I’m a hobby fiction writer, but I’m majoring in English, so it may turn into something more someday…? Who knows?
Forensic13* April 16, 2022 at 1:10 pm Does anyone have any good recommendations for online writing groups/places to ask people random questions? Not like: question and answer questions but like random writing questions for content. (For example: what are some love songs about doomed romances)?
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 8:24 am For random questions not related to writing group I’d try twitter – or this group is good too :D
A.N. O'Nyme* April 17, 2022 at 10:20 am Hmm, other than here I can’t really think of anything either. P.S. : Il Volo by Zucchero, Daar Gaat Ze by Clouseau, Domino by Clouseau, you can kind of make a case for Koning Liefde by Tourist LeMC, same for ‘n Welgemeende by Flip Kowlier
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 2:13 pm I don’t think I’ll get much done this week. I have a Zoom panel interview on Wednesday. Then there is a lot of driving back and forth for Dad’s memorial next weekend. Mom can drive, just not very far (it’s across the state in our hometown), so I have to make an extra halfway trip and hand her off to my brother. She’s staying over for a while to deal with whatever needs to be dealt with. I’ve been doing some conlang work between filling out apps and other stuff. My morphology, grammar, and syntax is already developed—it’s just a matter of making up words and phrases, which I can dip in and out of. The story machine in my head is on a low setting, but it’s chugging along. There’s a lot to cover in Book 3 and I want to get it right.
Jessica Ganschen* April 18, 2022 at 12:05 am I haven’t done anything new recently, but I got a very flattering critique on a poem that I wrote a little while ago, so I’m still feeling pleased with that.
A.N. O'Nyme* April 16, 2022 at 3:06 am Gaming thread! What’s everyone been playing this week? As usual this is not limited to video games so feel free to talk about any kind of game you want to including phone games and board games. Also feel free to ask for recommendations or help identifying a vaguely remembered game. Still not much for me other than cookie clicker. That game is as fun as it is silly.
Cookie* April 16, 2022 at 2:02 pm Not really a gamer at all but I’m playing Tsuki Odyssey because it’s so relaxing. When I’m stressed out, I watch the little bunny fishing and harvesting carrots. I haven’t bought any add-ins, just very slowly accumulating objects. The music is hypnotically calming.
MEH Squared* April 16, 2022 at 2:36 pm I am 225+ hours into Elden Ring (FromSoft) and on the last boss. I have so many emotions about my journey and I can’t believe I’m at the end of it. It’s my GOTY, quite possibly GOAT. What an incredible game. It’s not perfect, but it’s pretty dang close. I will be playing this game forever, I’m sure, but I’m going to take a little break once I finish my first playthrough (with, hopefully, the plat in hand). Play something cozy and fluffy before returning to Limgrave for another go. I HIGHLY recommend this game with two enthusiastic thumbs up.
MEH Squared* April 16, 2022 at 8:58 pm I beat the last boss in Elden Ring. So many emotions after taking this wild ride. I can heartily recommend this game if you like fantasy with engaging and difficult combat, breathtaking locations, and intriguing (if esoteric) lore. It’s an incredible game.
Henry Division* April 17, 2022 at 10:48 pm Still working on Tunic. It’s very fun and very clever, and it’s a loving homage to 90s adventure games and game guides, most obviously A Link to the Past. I like the game but am mostly excited that signing up for Xbox Game Pass has made it finally easy to play games on my Mac. I can play Tunic (and a ton of other games) through Chrome with my Switch controller and it works beautifully.
LimeRoos* April 18, 2022 at 8:58 am Super late to the party (as always lol). I replayed Katrielle Layton over the last 2 weeks or so. That game is so fun and charming and I love it. The dining mini-game is my favorite, I wish it were bigger and had more characters join after you beat the game. Mr. Roos is playing FF Stranger of Paradise and loves it. It looks gorgeous, and he says it has the best parts of Dark Souls but an actual storyline and the beautiful FF graphics and worlds. Also Tonberry’s still suck lol. I’m debating starting Breath of the Wild again to go korok hunting because it’s my favorite and I love building Tarrytown. Also need to play Wytchwood and play more Spiritfarer, but haven’t had the time/energy to start completely new to me games.
Scotlibrarian* April 16, 2022 at 3:53 am My husband works 4 x 11 hrs a week and I work 2.5 days per week. That way there is always an adult at home for our 2 autistic kids (both of whom have been home educated or school refusers for many years). Husband and I see each other late on in the evening and 1 half day a week. It’s tiring, but hey, we made this choice
Maryn* April 17, 2022 at 2:04 pm That sounds challenging, but I admire parents who put the well-being of the kids ahead of their own wants.
Firebird* April 16, 2022 at 3:58 am I signed the lease to my new apartment this week. There were some carpet spots and the landlord was going to have it cleaned. I didn’t notice more damage to the carpets until I started moving in. The carpet is only a year old, but there are several small burned spots and what seems to be dried gum and every room has pink stains, even in two closets. The landlord had it cleaned but the damage is still there. My daughter and I are going to mark the stain and burn locations today, so I can see if it as bad as I think it is. I’m not sure what to do now. I already signed the lease with the understanding that it would be cleaned. Now I’m finding more damage in both bedrooms and the living room and it really bothers me. I need some script ideas for talking to the landlord. Is it worthwhile to ask for the carpet to be replaced or repaired?
Virginia Plain* April 16, 2022 at 4:29 am Take photos and send to the landlord, and say you understood the carpet was to be cleaned and if that hasn’t happened yet can he please arrange it asap. Also say if the clean has been done and the things in the pictures are permanent staining, you are putting this on record so it’s clear to all that it was like that when you got here. Whether you ask him t9 replace it will depend on whether you can live with it or whether you would never have moved in if you’d known it was going to stay like that. Caveat – I have no experience of American landlords nor tenancy laws.
Texan In Exile* April 16, 2022 at 9:18 am I agree to the document, document, document. Note every stain and hole and every bit of dirt. Otherwise, your landlord will charge it all against your deposit when you move out. I know – I have helped my landlord friend do this. His tenant claimed the apartment was filthy when she moved in but had no proof. Also, she was lying. The previous tenant had not washed her long hair in the kitchen sink, leaving hair stuck in the plumbing, and previous tenant had not spilled grape juice on the living room carpet and previous tenant had not put children’s stickers on the windows. My friend charged her $45/hour against her deposit to clean it. (The tenant also threatened to call the police as my friend and I were doing the inspection. I told her go ahead. She did and the police came. They were polite to her but didn’t even talk to my friend and me, as it is not a crime for a landlord to inspect a property when the tenant is moving out.)
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 9:35 am I’m confused, did he clean it or not? If he didn’t, have him clean it but if there’s damage cleaning won’t fix it. It seems to really bother you so you might consider asking him to replace it but that might impact your move in date. And don’t be surprised if he says “no”
fhqwhgads* April 16, 2022 at 3:10 pm It sounds like he cleaned the originally identified spots but not all the carpeting everywhere and OP has since realized there’s more staining/damage elsewhere? Possibly? Or in addition to the “more” maybe the original supposedly cleaned spot does not look like it was cleaned?
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 8:27 am There’s also some stains that cleaning won’t fix, and it sounds like OP is wishing the carpet had been replaced instead of cleaned. It may be worth asking about.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 10:01 am I’d definitely take photos and document the damage, and send it to the landlord, so you don’t get charged for the damage later. You can ask for it to be cleaned, but this may just be damage that’s left after cleaning that you have to live with.
Not a Lord* April 16, 2022 at 10:09 am US landlord here, take pics with date stamps and ask they be included with your move-in inspection so you wont be held accountable for the damage when you move out. It’s unlikely they’ll replace the carpet if it’s only a year old, unless it’s really egregious or makes the unit unlivable. You can say something like “I just wanted to flag for you a lot of the damage to the carpet is still there despite cleaning and wanted to make sure it’s documented in my move-in inspection.”
Not a Lord* April 16, 2022 at 2:03 pm Forgot to add that they might replace it if it’s a higher-end residence where you’re paying a premium for a ‘luxury’ type rental. It wouldn’t hurt to ask, but be prepared to hear no. And if you can document how it affects the liveablilty of the home (sticky gum everywhere? Ugh!) that could help.
The Prettiest Curse* April 16, 2022 at 4:04 am Removed because work-related. Feel free to post this next Friday on the work thread!
Batgirl* April 16, 2022 at 4:41 am Red hair colour question: I stopped doing my own hair colour and visited a salon which gave me the perfect colour. This was no mean feat because generally I get a colour that’s too brown and barely red, or I get too-red clown colouring or it’s too goth and purple. What I like is to be as much like a fox as possible: it could be described as natural, but vivid. However when I went back for a touch up, the colour had faded a little to a browny copper and they did my roots while dragging the colour down the hair to blend, but I ended up with the roots more vivid than the hair. Next time I thought they’d suggest toner (which costs more) but they just spent more time blending the colour downwards which didn’t really work. They wanted to add more brown to the roots (this always happens) but I asked them to instead match the hair colour throughout because I don’t want to be too brown. This last time, I asked for toner and I got very vivid hair throughout that looks great in some lights. However it’s too primary a red in a very bright light and too dark and purple in others. It still doesn’t match the roots, which are more gingery, although you’d be hard pushed to notice because they coated most of the roots with the toner. So I have three options: 1) Can I ask them to make the toner more, but not entirely, coppery? The original hair dye colour I asked for on the first visit was a blend of red and copper but for the toner they didn’t give me options, so I don’t know if mixing toner is a thing? 2) Should I go lighter? I think getting my 6 level hair colour more vibrant and coppery red might involve going to a 7, but I know lightening hair damages it. 3) Should I try a new salon? I know the toner colour will probably be toned down with washing (I even have good colour conditioners that can do this) but I pay a lot for styling and pin curls which get me through a week without hairstyling, so I want the colour to be right too.
Virginia Plain* April 16, 2022 at 5:30 am No expert on hair dying but it strikes me that you’ve been to this salon on two or three occasions and been dissatisfied with what they’ve done and the results you’ve got, despite your best efforts to explain what you are after. I think option 3) would be worth exploring.
mreasy* April 16, 2022 at 6:54 am Definitely try a new colorist, and see if you can find one with an Instagram account that shows results similar to what you are looking for. It sounds like this colorist just doesn’t have the skills for your specific color. I have long gone light blonde from brown with mostly good results, but it’s only my most recent colorist who has gotten me exactly what I want. Good luck!
TDS* April 16, 2022 at 8:33 am You asked them to make the roots more vivid & now you’re unhappy that the roots are too bright? Maybe using the colorist who got it right the first time & trusting their process/giving fewer instructions to them would yield the results you want.
Texan In Exile* April 16, 2022 at 9:25 am No advice but a comment about red. I learned that red is one of the hardest colors because the molecule is bigger or something? It’s really hard to get not only red hair right but red anything right! Red hair dye and red paint fade a lot faster than other colors, apparently.
Jean (just Jean)* April 16, 2022 at 10:00 am Thanks for answering my longtime (silent) question, “What on earth possessed that person to select that awful-looking, so-called red hair color?” It never occurred to me that it might be a salon processing fail! Of course I have almost zero knowledge of colored hair. One doesn’t always know what one doesn’t know.
ThatGirl* April 16, 2022 at 11:05 am It took me a long time to find the perfect reddish blonde shade, and I naturally have some reddish undertones. And even then it’s more vaguely dark strawberry blonde by the end of the month than full red.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 16, 2022 at 4:45 pm Fascinating, thank you, I didn’t know this and it seems like it might explain a few past failures…
The OG Sleepless* April 16, 2022 at 6:58 pm My original hair color was a strawberry blond, basically the color of a new penny. It faded to the color of an old penny. I always said I wouldn’t color my gray, but I wasn’t prepared for it not to turn gray, just dull. I haven’t been able to duplicate my “real” color for anything. It’s kind of a light brown with some red lowlights. So frustrating. I had a feeling it was just the nature of things.
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 8:28 am Yes, my tattoo is red ink and I was warned they can fade faster (luckily it’s in a location that does not get a lot of sun).
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 9:43 am I also color my hair red but can’t get the right color in the salon (too brown). However, there is only so much they can do to achieve certain reds unless you go lighter with the underlying hair color. Also, as Texan said, red fades, period. I do think it’s time to try a different salon but please make sure you understand what can and can’t be done. FWIW, I switched to esalon for at home coloring and am pretty satisfied with the color which is a coppery reddish dark blonde.
Batgirl* April 16, 2022 at 11:41 am I’ve had good results from esalon too – but equally I got good results from this salon the very first time! I find esalon dye a bit too gunky, I got tired of DIY and communication with the colourist is harder long distance. Like Texan in Exile said, being a red means it’s a fading issue. I’m lucky in that my hair is porous and holds onto colour really well, but there is some fade. I have to figure out how to colour the faded lengths the same as the fresh roots. I did have a salon do this really well ,way back when, which is how I knew to ask for toner. They closed ages ago and everyone since then seems to need a learning curve.
Filosofickle* April 16, 2022 at 12:22 pm You likely got great color the first time because it was the first time — one solid overall color process. That’s the easy part. (Thought that does depend on what was going on with your hair before that.) It’s the roots / blending that make it so hard to match because applying fresh dye to new(er) growth acts very differently than on dyed hair and it’s not as simple as blending. Any way around it sounds like time for a new colorist.
California Dreamin’* April 16, 2022 at 10:46 am Red hair is so tricky. I used to have naturally copper hair, but a lot of the copper faded, leaving me with something more medium brown. So for years I’ve been coloring my hair to try to achieve what I once had naturally. It is very hard to find a colorist who does a good job with natural looking copper. The best luck I ever had was with a guy who did color only, no cuts (I would see someone else in the salon for cuts.) He was a true specialist in color. I actually cried when he moved away. I don’t know how easy it is to find someone like that where you are, but that would be ideal. The problem with red color too is that it does oxidize and get brassy on the ends easily. It’s just really high maintenance. I do recommend you try another salon since it sounds like this one isn’t hitting the mark for you.
Batgirl* April 16, 2022 at 12:18 pm I think you might be right but it’s so hard when they got the perfect colour right first time! Lots of places go straight to burgundy or mahogany as though the idea of real red freaks them out. They just seem so perplexed by retouching because of the (slight) fade issue; when my old stylist was actually pleasantly surprised by the amount of colour retention and could take it in her stride. One time she felt she hadn’t matched toner and root colour exactly and gave me a half refund; I couldn’t see anything amiss! Whhhyyy did I not get her number…
Yes Please* April 16, 2022 at 11:07 pm If you can remember her first name, you might be able to find an Instagram account for a hair stylist in your city with that first name. Good luck!
Batgirl* April 16, 2022 at 12:19 pm I am also trying to recreate my natural old colour! I would say it was impossible if I hadn’t managed to do it before.
bratschegirl* April 16, 2022 at 4:41 pm Red is just hard. I haven’t colored my hair since 2019, but for several years pre-pandemic I went to a great local salon and had them give me the coppery blonde I always wished I had. Despite having my “formula” written down in a book, it didn’t always come out the same, and in thinking back on it now, I think I was happiest with the very first time, same as you. My hair is also very, very porous, so much so that the uncut ends still retain color now from my last dye job which is coming up on 3 years ago! I’m throwing in the towel on color at this point anyhow. None of which really helps you at all, except perhaps to know that you aren’t the only one to have that experience…
Expiring Cat Memes* April 16, 2022 at 4:53 am Essential oils: which have you been surprised to like and dislike? I buy pure essential oils (mainly for use in an oil burner) so the prices vary quite a bit. I was surprised to find that jasmine (which I adore in bloom) is far too sickly for me in a burner. Expensive too! Rosemary and mandarin (again, scents I ordinarily love) were meh… too volatile/scent dissipates too quickly as an oil I think. OTOH, I’m surprised by how much I love peppermint and lemongrass, sometimes on their own or with a drop of petitgrain or amyris. I like fresh and earthy scents in the house and these have become my go-to’s, but sometimes I want to mix it up a little. I’m thinking about trying more of the less expensive ones like cypress, juniper, star anise. Any recommendations?
Virginia Plain* April 16, 2022 at 5:29 am I really like vetivert which is sort of woody and herbal. I also like bergamot which is a citrus but not as sweet as orange etc. i love lavender too and it’s inexpensive, at least over here it is.
Holly the spa pro* April 16, 2022 at 7:07 am Seconding bergamot. It’s citrus-y but almost woody and not as sweet. I like the brand Plant Therapy. They have some blends that are really nice for when you need a little change of pace but don’t know exactly what you want to blend.
Not So NewReader* April 16, 2022 at 7:48 am I love peppermint for muscle pain or congestion. I put chamomile oil in my shampoo to soften the garish white hair I seem to have inherited. It makes my hair look like an extremely soft blond. I only use it in the winter. In the summer the sun does this for me.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 16, 2022 at 4:48 pm and Camomile is good for the scalp too! I used to do a camomile and marigold rinse for my scalp health and to encourage highlights.
Elspeth McGillicuddy* April 16, 2022 at 9:25 am I’ve never tried it as an essential oil, but may I recommend costmary as an unusual but gorgeous smell? It’s a bit minty but softer and more lovely.
Dwight Schrute* April 16, 2022 at 9:39 am I’m a fan of basic scents so eucalyptus, peppermint, Lemongrass, and some citrus!
Batgirl* April 16, 2022 at 1:02 pm When I was in Morocco, I mentioned to an essential oils shop owner about loving jasmine the plant, but not the oil (I found it similar to ylang ylang – too sickly sweet) and she showed me many different varieties of jasmine – I really loved jasmine blanc because it was subtle and fresh. She also sold me a knockout Rosa centafolia which I haven’t been able to find since. Rose is usually garbage, but it shouldn’t be. For woodsy, easy to source scents I’d definitely go for bergamot. I’d also look at Cedar, Clary sage, sandalwood, frankincense, rosewood and black pepper. If you like good gin or the smell of quality oil paints you’ll like juniper – it releases emotions though, so use it with care. I also like neroli, which is a type of orange blossom. I think lavender and lemon are quite underrated.
I'm A Little Teapot* April 16, 2022 at 4:58 pm Obligatory warning – essential oils can be harmful or toxic to people and animals, so do check on that for anything you’re using. You don’t want to kill your cat by accident.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain* April 16, 2022 at 5:43 pm I love the scent of real cedar wood but cedar essential oil makes me gag. I thought it would be a way of “recharging” natural cedar blocks I keep in closets or make scented candles that aren’t floral or sweet. It’s hard to describe how it’s not at all the same scent. I have some valerian EO…supposed to be good for sleep…smells 100% like marijuana (to me) — herbaceous skunk. Mixing it with sage or eucalyptus helps cut the skunk.
Batgirl* April 17, 2022 at 9:07 am That’s a great point actually; essential oils are concentrated versions so they will smell stronger than the source and using them neat is usually advised against. I disperse a very few drops in water above oil burners or add them to a base oil. I don’t think wax is great at diluting them judging by some wax pellets I was given for oil burners – way too strong. If I wasn’t planning on diluting them, I would stick to something mild like lavender otherwise.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 17, 2022 at 7:37 pm any possibility you bought a different ‘cedar’ essential oil than the blocks you love? I love all the things I’ve found that are called Cedar, but they definitely aren’t all the same. Check out the Wikipedia article for ‘list of plants known as cedar.’ Check the scientific names and compare. Juniperus Virginiana is apparently most commonly used in cedar closets but your EO might be Cedrus Deodara or Cedrus Atlantica.
Potatoes gonna potate* April 16, 2022 at 5:38 am Anyone else want to share in the (light?) embarrassment of mistaken identity? yesterday I was at a coffee shop and I thought I saw one of my friends there. It took me a while but I was convinced. I said hi! And…..y’all it wasn’t my friend…..LOL. I quickly mumbled “sorry I thought you were someone” and avoided eye contact til I left. Another time in college, many years ago, I approached who I thought was one of my friends. It wasn’t her but she kind of knew my friend and i think they were mistaken for each other occasionally so it wasn’t that bad lol. I’m laughing about the first one now but man oh man I had a LOT of feelings when it happened.
Expiring Cat Memes* April 16, 2022 at 6:21 am It’s secondhand so not my own story but I love it. Former coworker saw “his friend” at the shops, and, as young men do, announced his recognition of said person with headlock and noogie. Turned out to be another, rather… murderously… perturbed random gentleman.
I take tea* April 16, 2022 at 6:27 am I once thought I recognised a colleague at a distance, and said her name quite loudly. Turns out that this somewhat similar person even had the same (common) name. She was confused, I was slihtly embarrassed.
Falling Diphthong* April 16, 2022 at 7:57 am I take tea reminded me of the phone one I routinely do: My phone number is easy to mix up with that of someone who works at the senior center. Unfortunately, we have the same first name, so once a month or so I’ll do a few rounds about how, yes, Falling answered the phone, but I can’t get you a bus for your thing. I have the person’s full name and phone number on the cork board with doctor and kennel cards, even though I’ve never met her. In person: I combine a distinctive appearance with near face-blindness, so I get a lot of people recognizing me whom I can’t place. Every once in a while we get the twist where someone met another uber blond woman and is convinced I’m her, and I have to insist I have never lived in Oakville and so am definitely not that person.
Dwight Schrute* April 16, 2022 at 9:02 am I worked at a summer camp for a few years and got into the habit of waving and saying hi when I saw kids and parents walking towards me. One time I was at target with my mom after work and I waved and said hi to a family walking inside as we were leaving. I immediately realized I didn’t know them and had greeted them out of habit. My mom looked at me in confusion and asked if I knew them and I said no, both of us couldn’t stop laughing for several minutes and I was so embarrassed
Dwight Schrute* April 16, 2022 at 9:49 am A friend in college ran up and hugged me from behind and congratulated me only to realize it wasn’t me but someone who apparently looks just like me
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 9:54 am I have one of those slightly generic faces that apparently resembles everyone’s friend from high school / former neighbor / their kid’s third grade teacher, etc. I get greeted by the wrong name by so many random people – sometimes with great surprise and enthusiasm – that I don’t even worry about mistaking other people. Fortunately, all my doppelgangers seem to be nice people. I’ve never had anyone mistake me for an old enemy, thank goodness.
Expiring Cat Memes* April 16, 2022 at 10:29 am Curious since it happens so often, are you ever tempted to roll with it out of mischievousness? Like, “oh did you know about the reunion? It’s canceled so we’re all donating to [x] instead!” or “don’t forget it’s bake sale on Thursday and everyone needs to bring goodies to share with their classmates!”. Just to stir the pot a little and get your own money’s worth..?
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 11:08 am I have to say, that’s never once crossed my mind. About half the time, they don’t remember the name right away, so we are both groping around trying to figure out if we know each other. It’s not really a bother to have someone pleased to see me, even if it’s due to confusion, so there’s no “money’s worth.” I don’t think it would be funny to intentionally confuse or torment a stranger who thinks they are talking to a long lost friend / acquaintance. Why would someone do that?
Potatoes gonna potate* April 16, 2022 at 11:26 am I don’t think it would be funny to intentionally confuse or torment a stranger who thinks they are talking to a long lost friend / acquaintance. Why would someone do that? Agree…. In the interest of keeping the original post light, I didn’t mention that anxiety brain/RSD (rejection sensitive dysphoria) took its hold but faded eventually. that would be cruel I think.
Expiring Cat Memes* April 17, 2022 at 9:08 am Ah. Yeah, playful wind-ups/banter/larrikinisms are one of those Australian cultural things that I tend to forget land as outrageously offensive to most Americans. FWIW, it’s understood here to be done with warmth and the objective is to connect, make them laugh/break the ice. I’m not a cruel monster that goes around deliberately tormenting people. But it won’t translate regardless of how I try to explain the nuances.
RagingADHD* April 17, 2022 at 10:04 pm I mean, teasing is fine with friends. But a complete stranger? What ice needs breaking anyway, when you’re already talking about your personal backstory / where are you from, and laughing about the mix up? It’s not “outrageously offensive,” it just sounds wierd and try-hard.
NotBatman* April 16, 2022 at 10:22 am I have a sister who looks a lot like me, except as teens she had long brown hair while I had a blue buzz cut. Twice when I was visiting her at college, I had people stop dead at the sight of me and go “What did you do to your hair!?” Of course, both were friends of my sister’s who mistook us. Teen-me thought it was hilarious.
Lucy* April 16, 2022 at 10:29 am Several years ago, at a job with a crappy manager, my team had to stay at work until 5:00 even though a bad snowstorm was happening and we had laptops we could use to work from home (the rest of the building left in the morning…I think my manager didn’t care because they had a 5 minute commute and an SUV with four wheel drive). I tried to drive home in my tiny sedan, but had trouble keeping control of my car just going along the first street out of the parking lot (I basically had no experience driving in snow and ice and slush at this time), so I struggled to return to the parking lot and called my dad (who owns a big truck). Waited for him for like an hour, and when I saw what looked like his truck, I rushed over, opened the door, and got in. And it was some other poor confused guy, lol! I immediately apologized and hopped back out. Was sooo embarrassed. And then it took two hours to get home after my dad finally arrived.
Potatoes gonna potate* April 16, 2022 at 11:21 am oh noooo lol This happened to my father a few years ago, it was dark and my mom and I were in the car while he went to the store. When he came back out, we saw him walking towards the drivers side of the car in front of us. We were looking at him like what is he doing??? Sure enough he opened the car door and he jumped. We were all cracking up after. Although we laughed about it, later I worried what if the other guy hadn’t been a good sport about it? If a stranger suddenly opened my car door, I would be terrified beyond belief.
Seal* April 16, 2022 at 10:35 am About 5 years ago I had a bad bout of panuveitis, which in inflammation of everything inside your eye. I was temporarily blind in one eye for a few days but with massive doses of steroids my vision eventually came back. As my vision was clearing up, my distance vision was basically shot; I could see shapes but not details. I didn’t realize how bad my vision still was until I saw a woman in the grocery store parking lot who I thought was my boss’s wife. It was Mother’s Day and since we knew each other well enough to chat and joke around with each other, I called out to her something to the effect of “so boss made you go out grocery shopping on Mother’s Day?” When she got closer I realized this woman was in fact not my boss’s wife. Fortunately she laughed!
PostalMixup* April 16, 2022 at 10:43 am Stories from the other side of this: I apparently have one of those faces that’s generic enough to look like everyone else. In high school, my English teacher couldn’t keep me and my best friend straight (we don’t really look much alike), so when returning class work he’d just put both assignments right in between us. In college, I had a friend a few years older, and we were both in the same campus ministry group. After she went off to grad school, people from nearby churches would come up to me and say “Friend’s Name, how is Princeton?” Dunno, I’ve never been there. In grad school, my boss asked who I’d gone to see graduate at the big all-campus ceremony. I replied that I had been in the lab all afternoon. He insisted he’d seen me there, but nope.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 11:12 am Hello, fellow generic face. I wonder if we have been mistaken for each other?
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 11:31 am A former boss had a certain sports car and dark hair and lived near my local Dunkin’. I saw her in the parking lot, head back, window down enjoying the sun. I walked up and said “hey, lady!” Not her.
Elle Woods* April 16, 2022 at 11:42 am At my brother’s college graduation, I was sure that I saw an old friend of mine there. After the ceremony, I walked over to this man and said, “Jeff? It’s great to see you.” Turns out it he wasn’t MY Jeff. Oops. I stammered some apology and backed away.
machinedreams* April 16, 2022 at 11:59 am Not exactly embarrassment, but facepalm-worthy “oh my God why DIDN’T I say hi?” I was at a sci-fi convention and saw a guy who looked like my ex-boyfriend, but since I wasn’t at all sure I didn’t want to be like “Yo hey… oh, sorry, I’ll just go over here now.” So I get home, post about the con on Facebook and mention how I’d seen a guy that looked like him and was like “I wanted to say hi but I wasn’t sure.” IT WAS HIM. Then the year after, my friend and I did the midnight release of the final Harry Potter movie. Guy in my theater was dressed in Gryffindor Quidditch robes, the girl with him was wearing Slytherin. Yep, looked like my ex. Yep, once again was like “I want to say hi but noooo.” Yep, once again get home and post about it on FB. ONCE AGAIN, IT WAS HIM.
The OG Sleepless* April 16, 2022 at 6:31 pm This is so funny to me, because an old friend/”could have been a boyfriend if things had been just a bit different” works for a large sci-fi convention. Which I did not know until I was sitting against a wall at said convention, reading my phone, having changed out of my costume into leggings and a T-shirt from a large, recent 10K (making me as generically dressed as I could have possibly been). Suddenly Friend walks up and speaks to me. After the initial hugs and good-to-see-yous, my first question was how in the world he had spotted me! He had seen my husband walking toward me, and my husband is fairly distinctive looking. Good lord.
Lore* April 16, 2022 at 12:03 pm My best story in this vein–I used to run box office for my small theater company, and the theater was on the second floor, which meant you’d see patrons approaching up a staircase. I saw someone coming who I thought was a co-worker, and waved enthusiastically and gave him a big friendly “Hi” then realized as he got to my desk that it was not that person. I mumbled sheepishly, “Sorry, you look just like someone I work with” and he said, “Oh, you must work with my brother, then.” And of course when he gave me his name, it was indeed my coworker’s brother, who turned out to have gone to college with one of my cast members. New York City: world’s biggest small town.
Filosofickle* April 16, 2022 at 12:29 pm After a coworker’s car died I started giving her rides to work. She lived above a shop and every day I’d roll up to the curb in my red Honda — it was a city neighborhood so I couldn’t always park exactly in front, but close. Within a couple of minutes she’d hop in the passenger side and away we went. One day I was waiting for her, and couldn’t figure out what she was doing then it clicked that I was parked behind another red Honda and she was opening their door to get in instead! They were both very startled.
marvin the paranoid android* April 16, 2022 at 12:38 pm This is my entire life. I have the hardest time recognizing faces and always second-guess myself, so I’ve developed my patented technique of looking at someone in a way that could mean “Hello, friend who I have known for 10 years, I am able to recognize you for obvious reasons” or could also mean “Hello, stranger, isn’t this a pleasant afternoon to behave in a socially appropriate way.” Sometimes it doesn’t work out but most of the time I get away with it. What I haven’t figured out how to deal with is always reflexively answering when someone says “Hi” to a person on the phone or waves to someone standing behind me.
Generic Name* April 16, 2022 at 12:42 pm I was at a conference with my boss. We were supposed to meet up with a colleague we’ve never met in person. He described himself as very distinctive-looking so it should be easy to spot him. He said he is “a tall, lanky, funny-looking guy with red hair and glasses”. Those were his exact words. Reader, my boss and I approached no fewer than 5 men matching that description at the conference. Luckily, we found it hilarious, but it was kind of embarrassing to approach a stranger and then him telling us we’ve got the wrong person.
Princesa* April 16, 2022 at 2:42 pm One time someone thought I was my sister. She was so confident while waving at me, so I waved back and went along with it. Not exactly embarrassing, but a little awkward! I told my sister about it later and we laughed together. Oh, and a stranger on a bus once thought I was her sister… she even showed me a picture of her sister after the mistake, but I didn’t think I looked that much like her… it was dark, so I gave her a pass! Definitely awkward though.
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 2:48 pm This happened years ago in music school. I was in a dark nightclub with some people and gave an effusive greeting to a man I thought was one of my friends. When I got close to him and could see him better, I realized he was not my friend—he was a guy I knew only barely. Both men had dark hair and a similar build. From a distance in the low lighting, you could not tell. It went like this: Me (thinking it’s Guy 1): OMG! HIIIIIIIII! How ARE you?!?! It’s SO GOOD to SEE you!!! *actually gives him a hug* Guy 2 (slightly confused): Oh hi, what’s up? Me (to myself): Oh f*ck. (to him) Oh, you know. Schoolwork, theater, blah blah blah. What’re you up to? *chats* Oh, whoops, gotta go to the little girl’s room now, see you later! *hasty exit* I was so embarrassed but luckily, I hadn’t greeted him by name!
I take tea* April 16, 2022 at 3:20 pm Oh my, the hug. I once met an acquaintance at a thing and as I had been feeling down and alone I hugged him out of relief of seing a familiar face. We have never been that close. I felt quite embarrassed when I realised what I had done.
I take tea* April 16, 2022 at 3:31 pm I just remembered another. As a student I once went to a theatre play some friends had in a cellar (literally). It was really, really small, maybe space for fifteen at the most. Almost everyone in the public was an acquaintance. I nodded and greeted everyone that looked slightly familiar, as I don’t really recognise people that well. After quite a while it dawned in me that one of those people was a minor celebrity, that I certainly didn’t know… Funny thing was, I mentioned it to the group afterwards and one said: “at least you didn’t just laugh and said ‘yeah, yeah, sure, who is this really?’ when he called to book tickets…” She thought someone was just joking. Apparently this guy was a big fan of Beckett and went to every play he could find.
Cordelia* April 16, 2022 at 4:12 pm my sister once crept up behind me in a second-hand bookshop, rested her chin on my shoulder, and said in a weird voice “I’ve read aaalllll the books”. I watched her do this from where I was actually standing. The poor lady she had actually accosted accepted her apologies politely but fled very quickly. This was years ago, we still do this to each other every time we are in a bookshop together.
I take tea* April 16, 2022 at 5:29 pm This is such a vivid description, laughed out loud. Just wonderful.
Elizabeth West* April 17, 2022 at 12:37 pm Well at least she gave the lady a great story to tell! :’D This reminds me of the time I called my sister and as soon as someone picked up the phone, I did my best Anthony Hopkins Hannibal Lecter impression and said, “Is this Clarice? Well, hello, Clarice.” It was not, in fact, my sister. I had misdialed.
PollyQ* April 16, 2022 at 4:12 pm I had a colleague I called by the wrong name “R” for 6 months, when her actual name was “L”. IDK why, maybe she reminded me of another “R” I had known? It wasn’t until another colleague corrected me that I realized my mistake. The kicker? When I apologized, she said she’d never noticed!
Squirrel Nutkin* April 16, 2022 at 11:47 pm This has happened to me so often! I have prosopagnosia (difficulty recognizing faces). I have totally had whole conversations with people where I thought I was talking with one person but was really talking to another person (which explains why those conversations were so confusing). The absolute worst was when I accidentally kissed someone on the cheek thinking they were a friend when they were NOT my friend but just someone I’d met like once before. Awkward.
Bob-White of the Glen* April 19, 2022 at 12:41 pm Face blind here too. Has led to some embarrassing situations!
Not a Flatterer* April 17, 2022 at 12:44 am I know someone who saw his wife from behind and grabbed her posterior. It was not his wife. It was her sister. We laugh about this still occasionally.
ThatGirl* April 17, 2022 at 4:32 pm I put my arm around my best friend’s husband’s waist for a second, as my husband watched me realize it wasn’t him, lol.
California Dreamin’* April 18, 2022 at 1:10 am Yup. I once went up and put my arms around my husband from behind as he was washing dishes at his parents’ sink… but it was my brother-in-law.
Virginia Plain* April 16, 2022 at 6:32 am Small joys! (another commenter usually does this but I’m beating them to it today :-) It is an absolutely beautiful spring day here in the south east of England. About 19 celsius, clear blue sky, birds tweeting and spring flowers in the hedgerows and on the verges. I’m just walking to the library etc and I saw a wedding car go past, a beautiful vintage model in cream and black with a wedding ribbon, and a bride in the back with her dad (well I suppose it could be her bridegroom but it would be a significant age gap, moreover it’s not midday yet and that would be very early to be all done). I’m so pleased they’ve got such a lovely day for it; this time of year in England could easily have shown dull grey skies, a chill wind and some persistent drizzle. Brings joy to my romantic soul!
HHD* April 16, 2022 at 6:41 am I’m joining you in the small joy of a beautiful day in southern England. I’ve just watched a squirrel superman their way down my bird feeder only to be repeatedly foiled by birds flying onto the perch they’re aiming for. My small joy of the week is having made the decision to outsource packing as well as moving, including dismantling and reassembling all the furniture. It’s such a weight off my mind, and means that I can enjoy this long weekend.
The Prettiest Curse* April 16, 2022 at 8:26 am It’s definitely a rare sunny day for this time of year in the UK. Yesterday, I saw someone wearing a t-shirt that said “The Great British Summer – my favourite day of the year”, which just about sums it up.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 9:39 am I took a walk with my husband and kid yesterday in our neighborhood. Usually my husband doesn’t join us, but he initiated this one. We got to talk with the neighbors and it was a wonderful walk as a family, the favorite part of my day (though the preschooler was being a preschooler and was tough to motivate at times).
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 12:05 pm (Looks like we have two small-joys threads now!) I received a surprise gift of half-a-dozen freshly-laid and multicolor eggs – a friend of mine has a neighbor who has chickens, and saved some for me. I’m pretty sure the chickens are Araucanas, as the eggs range from a rich brown to various shades of blue, teal, and green – really lovely!
Generic Name* April 16, 2022 at 12:49 pm This is probably bigger than small, it my son is home from the hospital after a major surgical procedure. I stayed with him at the children’s hospital, and it was a very sobering experience. The facility and staff was wonderful and supportive, but I saw children who will have much more profound challenges in their life than my son will. I saw a boy who recently had a foot amputated. I saw children who were in wheelchairs, who are nonverbal. I’m sure there were children there who have cancer and children who will not get better. While my son’s surgery was more difficult than it needed to be (I’m dealing with his dad, who is abusive to me), I’m profoundly grateful that he will make a full recovery and go on to live a life with few limitations (a “normal” life, as it were).
Yet Another Unemployed Librarian* April 16, 2022 at 6:25 pm Have had a very similar experience with my son having surgery and fully recovering, and had many of the same thoughts at the hospital. Glad your son is home and may his dad please stop bugging you ASAP.
TheDisenchantedForest* April 16, 2022 at 1:47 pm The weather sounds lovely. I’m going to live vicariously through you today, as it’s sunny but a bit cold today in Seattle, WA. Enjoy the wonderful warm weather!
Thread starter* April 16, 2022 at 6:48 am Little Joys Thread What brought you joy this week? I saw a crow slowly walking through the grass seemingly deep in thought. The air smelled absolutely lovely after some rain earlier this week. Please share your joys big or small.
Doctor is In* April 16, 2022 at 9:03 am Jogged 5K yesterday for the first time in a while, beautiful spring day after days of cold, wind and rain. Felt happier than I had in a while.
Dwight Schrute* April 16, 2022 at 9:04 am I’m learning to ride a bike lately and did my first mountain bike trail this week! It was scary and fun and hard
I don't mean to be rude, I'm just good at it* April 16, 2022 at 9:29 am My wife raises chickens for eggs and special occasions (not so special for the chicken). We bought 6 new Rhode Island Reds at a chicken and egg auction a couple weeks ago (the eggs came first). They have been really skitterish but are settling in. Yesterday morning I let them out of their pen so they can run around on the lawn and eat grass and brought some rice crispy’s out to see if they would eat out of my hand, and they did. Their beaks are a little sharp so it is a bit painful, but kind of fun. I repeated the process later in the afternoon but with no cereal. Surprisingly the girls bumrushed me thinking they were going to get treats but I shooed them off. While looking at my phone and not paying attention the biggest of the bunch came over and gave my finger a sizable chomp (ouch!!) My wife was playing in her veggie garden witnessed this and is still laughing.
L. Ron Jeremy* April 16, 2022 at 9:54 am I had a bad case of vertigo last Friday. I couldn’t walk without grabbing for handholds or I’d fall. If I opened my eyes, I’d get nauseous and puke, so I spent the day in bed with my eyes closed and head still. My little joy is getting my balance back and living life 3 days later. Vertigo makes you appreciate walking.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 10:10 am A secondhand or household joy for me. Last week I gave an update on the feral mama cat & kittens that we are fostering. My philosophy has been “socialize the kittens, be minimally distuptive to mama and try not to overstimulate her, give her space to reduce stress.” Well, my husband has been courting that cat with treats and sweet talk every moment he’s home. And now she will eat treats out of his hand, and lets him stroke her back while she’s eating from the food dish. He is over the moon. She goes to the vet on Monday to get fixed, and we are adjusting the return/release plan. Based on our prior experience with this clinic, she’s likely to be somewhat sedated when we bring her home. If she’s still groggy and not freaked out, we’ll return her to the indoor crate for a meal and then let her walk out the door when she’s ready. If she’s fully awake and freaked out, we’ll still release her outside with a meal nearby. In that case, we’ll just have to hope she remembers more of the good than the bad.
allathian* April 17, 2022 at 2:36 am Good luck! I hope you’ll post in next week’s thread how things went down.
Jean (just Jean)* April 16, 2022 at 10:25 am While eating breakfast I read my friend’s social media comment that complimented my husband’s fine character and singing voice and expressed her sadness at his recent, pre-Passover death (after a long illness). Such a heart-warming start to the day, especially during this first holiday without him.
Elle Woods* April 16, 2022 at 12:02 pm So sorry for your loss, Jean. I’m glad your friend’s comment brought you some joy.
Jean (just Jean)* April 16, 2022 at 8:00 pm Thank you, Blue wall, Elle Woods, and small town. Grief isn’t a picnic, but DH’s memory is a blessing.
allathian* April 17, 2022 at 2:37 am I’m so sorry for your loss, and I hope you’ll find more solace in friendship. What a lovely gesture by your friend.
Voluptuousfire* April 16, 2022 at 10:53 am I got a nice little windfall of my first paycheck at my new job, last paycheck heck and vacation from my old job yesterday so I got to pay off one credit card. I also have coupons for my favorite clothing store and since I have a little extra cash, I can buy myself a few of the super pretty summer dresses I have on my wishlist there. They’re of the “buy it to have in case and I like it” kind than anything I need. It makes me happy I can do that.
mreasy* April 16, 2022 at 11:04 am Joined a climbing gym and had a great climb this morning. I really love doing it!
Elle Woods* April 16, 2022 at 12:07 pm I cleaned out a tub of high school memorabilia from my parents’ house. I had no idea they even had the stuff. Trophies, graduation cards, plaques, yearbooks, certificates, choir & band concert programs, random pics. Looked at it all, took pics of a couple of things and recycled or trashed the rest.
the cat's ass* April 16, 2022 at 12:51 pm I got through a wild week at the Place Which Must Not Be named On The Weekend My dear friend gave me multicolored eggs from her chickens, so it’s asparagus and shrimp quiche for lunch! Headed to the first live Cherry Blossom Fest in 2 years tomorrow!
VegetarianRaccoon* April 16, 2022 at 4:57 pm Can I ask if that festival is the one in Macon, or is there another?
VegetarianRaccoon* April 17, 2022 at 7:41 pm Thanks! I can’t believe it never occurred to me that there might be more than one in the U.S.!
Clisby* April 17, 2022 at 3:51 pm My parents are both from Macon, so I’ve been to that one a couple of times! It’s been awhile.
TheDisenchantedForest* April 16, 2022 at 1:48 pm The scent of flowers blooming on a sunny day. Also (and always) coffee.
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 2:53 pm There were violets in the front yard and I harvested some to put on my salad. I miss the giant crop of them in the backyard of my old house. I hope the new owner is enjoying them. :D
small town* April 16, 2022 at 3:07 pm spring is glorious and every window in the house is open! I got my olive relish from Central Grocery in New Orleans shipped here and can’t wait to use it.
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 7:20 am My new Great Dane puppy is coming home a week from today! I have a crate, collar/leash/harness, potty training bell, food, food bowl, some large-breed puppy-safe chewing toys, and a stuffed heartbeat puppy for adjusting to sleeping without her littermates. Her first vet visit is already scheduled for a couple days after her homecoming, and she will already be microchipped when she arrives home. (And I know, big dog big poo — that seems to be the thing that everyone focuses on, which is weird. :P “I’m getting a Great Dane puppy!” “Oh, wow, the poo is going to be huge!”) This is not my first go-round with puppy raising, but the first one (who is 7 now) was dirt easy – like, she chewed on something that wasn’t her toys exactly once, EVER – and the dog I already had when I brought HER home (who was also 7 at the time, apparently this is a trend) was about the chillest most laid back dog ever and she loved puppies so the two of them were snuggling and best friends within like six hours. That one has since crossed the rainbow bridge, and this one is not as chill and does not have any past experience with puppies. So – I’ve done a lot of research about introducing a new puppy to an older dog, but I am definitely open to tips and success stories!
Dwight Schrute* April 16, 2022 at 9:09 am Oh boy have fun! Is this your first Dane puppy? My friend is a Dane person and had always gotten older rescues and got her first Dane puppy almost a year ago and he is an absolute hellion. He’ll be a wonderful dog when he’s out of adolescence but my god he has been a challenging puppy and that seems to be true of most Dane puppies from what she’s heard. Don’t be alarmed if she’s a bit of an a hole! For introing to your existing dog I’d just be sure to make sure the puppy doesn’t get to continuously annoy her. If old dog snaps and puppy doesn’t listen, best to separate them since it’s not fair for old dog to get beat up by a puppy who doesn’t listen
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 9:36 am First Dane at all, yep! My first dog, the Elder Statesdog Gone Beyond, was a bloodhound/lab mix I adopted as a young adult, and the Junior Ambassador (who I guess will be getting a promotion) is a boxer mix :) I’ve been eyeballing giant breeds for a long time and finally taken the plunge! Puppy will be crate-training, while the Ambassador will continue to have full run of the house, and we have some baby gates we can use to divide some spaces too as necessary. I also have a professional trainer with large breed experience coming to the house for a consult (general puppy manners for the newcomer, plus hopefully remedying some weak spots in the Ambassador’s repertoire and frankly training ME how to work with both of them the most effectively) the weekend after puppy comes home. :)
Dwight Schrute* April 16, 2022 at 9:41 am You’re doing it all right! I’m a fellow giant breed owner (Scottish deerhound) :) they’re special and I’ll never not have one again! Post updates about her please!
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 9:57 am I think they are awesome dogs. I was sitting behind a truck at a long light admiring the Dane sticking it’s head out the window. At first I thought he was moving from one side of truck to other than realized they were twins. Have you read Life with George?
Elspeth McGillicuddy* April 16, 2022 at 11:46 am The poo isn’t going to be huge until after she grows up a bit though? Advice: I’m sure you know the rule “Don’t let the puppy (or kitten) do anything you don’t want the dog (cat) doing”, but be extra sure to follow it with a big dog. Make sure she has beautiful walking manners, don’t let her nibble your fingers, and don’t let her get away with any aggression whatsoever. My mother literally pulled the food from our puppy’s mouth so that he knew that food aggression was not an option. And generally remember that you can control a misbehaving pug, but a Great Dane is going to have to control herself. Both of our dogs have been mildly annoyed but tolerant of the puppies we inflicted on them, but enjoyed them once they grew up. Actually, I think the dogs were at least as successful at training the puppies as we were, including the one that was 90 lbs lighter than the puppy’s full weight. We learned to growl at the puppy when it was being too mouthy from them. We had a very easy time with potty training and only a bit of chewing from our big boy, though that did include eating a chunk off the coffee table. He also cracked a window one time slamming into it. Be sure to post pics.
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 12:28 pm Yesssss. I’m a huge proponent of “begin as you mean to go on” in general. There are a few things (including leash manners) that I was a little lax on with my current dog, and that is something I’m being super strict on myself with this time, because what’s annoying on 50 pounds is potentially dangerous on 130+. There is a 2 year old GD in my neighborhood who’s people have not taught him any leash manners, and the one time I’ve seen him out on leash as opposed to in his fenced yard, he literally dragged his person a block and a half down the road and out into the street because that’s where he wanted to be, and she did not have a PRAYER of stopping him. (Thank god she at least managed to stay on her feet rather than falling on her face, and that we live in a quiet subdivision with minimal traffic.) That was definitely a strong reinforcement of my intentions for training.
Bobina* April 16, 2022 at 7:31 am Gardening thread: how are the green things doing? I am being extremely lazy about watering but I really need to get out and do it as my outdoor plants are looking kind of droopy. Have a few bits I think I want to plant as well, so looks like some outdoor time is in order. I also thought the hosta was escaping the slugs, but I had a look yesterday and a couple of leaves had been chewed, so its beer trap time tonight (the most effective things I’ve found so far). And it appears my snake plant is flowering!
Not So NewReader* April 16, 2022 at 7:50 am Snake plants flower??? ha. I never saw one do that. Must google. I was never great with inside plants as the outside plants got most of my attention.
Bobina* April 16, 2022 at 8:04 am They do! I was also surprised given that I kind of ignore mine but apparently that’s what they like!
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 10:00 am They can flower. Mine has once and I didn’t realize it at first but the flower had a really pungent scent which is how I finally noticed.
Jean (just Jean)* April 16, 2022 at 10:28 am Snake plants flower???!! Wow, that’s amazing. I’m already googling — in the cartoon sense of having my eyeballs bounce out of, then back into, their sockets. Three decades of indoor snake plants and nary a blossom. Maybe I need to step up my act (re-pot, give plant food, water more frequently).
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 11:33 am The big difference for me was putting it where it gets a lot of light. But it has only flowered that one time and it was one small flower. Still very cool.
Constance Lloyd* April 16, 2022 at 7:50 am I just added ranunculus to my very sunny patio! It’s a rental without a hose so I will inevitably end up lugging water out there by the gallon to keep them alive but for now, I’m delighted.
Bobina* April 16, 2022 at 7:59 am Oooh exciting! I tried ranunculus last year and it didn’t go super great but I am undeterred and literally just put out a flower box full of their bulbs yesterday so hoping 2nd time lucky!
Constance Lloyd* April 16, 2022 at 9:09 am I have a very spotty history with plants but remain stubbornly optimistic to a fault. I hope your flower box is an explosion of color!
DataGirl* April 16, 2022 at 9:06 am still way too cold where I am for garden work. I usually buy all my plants on Mothers Day, which is still early but if I wait much longer there won’t be anything at the stores.
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 12:08 pm Daffodils and crocus popping up – mostly from unexpected places amid my long-neglected yard! Have also begun taking my potted bay shrub outdoors during the warmer days. (I think we’re past frost danger in my area, though there are some mid-30s nights in the immediate forecast, so I’ll bring it in for those to avoid having the tender new leaves nipped.)
Bobina* April 17, 2022 at 5:25 am Hah, I think I’m going to have some surprise bulbs next spring as well – I’ve already forgotten what I planted where (even if mine are just potted!)
BlueWolf* April 16, 2022 at 2:11 pm We’ve had a string of warm days and nights so I’ve had my veggie, herb, and flower seedlings outside hardening off. It’s supposed to cool off for the next few days though so I’ll need to bring them back in. I’m hoping I can at least plant out my giant tomato seedlings soon. I started them way too early and they are about two feet tall at this point.
Bobina* April 17, 2022 at 5:24 am Ooh good luck with the tomatos. I’ve given up on trying to grow them but I’m always really envious when I hear people talk about their harvest in the summer! There is nothing like good tomatoes!
BlueWolf* April 17, 2022 at 9:33 am Thanks! I had about a million cherry tomatoes last year even before the stink bugs started to take over. The slicing type I tried last year didn’t do that great, so I’m adding Cherokee Purple this year and hoping they will do better.
just another bureaucrat* April 16, 2022 at 3:42 pm I am an indoor gardener and my strawberries are turning into fruit! I got to eat my first one this week, they are like a quarter of the size of my pinky tip but they are lovely and exciting and I’m thrilled to see them. I’m going to pick my first pepper tonight too. My lavender is being weird and I’m not quite sure what to do about it. But I think I’m almost committed to giving up on growing the cilantro in the aerogarden and sticking it in my “weed” pot. (I had a little starter rosemary plant I bought just to see how long I could keep it going inside, not long. But once it died I got a couple of other shoots out of the container so I kept watering it to see what would grow and now I have a little wild geranium growing in there because it was a weed. So I kind of love my little weed most of all. But I got a suggestion to just toss the cilantro in there and let it go.) I ordered some more plants as I have loved the strawberries but I’ll move onto something else after these are done. More thyme and a few other things I’ve forgotten already.
Bobina* April 17, 2022 at 5:22 am Ooh fruit! I have an alpine strawberry plant a neighbour gave me a while ago that I thought had died but looks like its coming back to life. The fruits are also tiny but amazingly fragrant I have to say. Mine lives outside though, so most of it gets eaten by birds/slugs – but when I can nab one I do.
Missb* April 16, 2022 at 3:47 pm I just spent the morning emptying out one of my large compost bins. It wasn’t full as I’ve been pulling the finished compost out little by little. But I needed to refill the bin with new material because I had two bokashi bins that were fully fermented and kitchen scraps kinda piling up in their smaller containers. So, I lugged a bunch of dried leaves, weeds, straw from the chickens, random clippings from my spring clean up and threw them all in layers and filled the whole bin. It’s one of those earth machine/darth Vader looking bins. We’ve had snow and hail on and off for the past week. It was a beautiful morning to be outside. Now we’re heading towards a thunderstorm or at least heavy rain, so I’m glad to be done. I peeked at all my winter sown containers and things managed to survive. It’s still jarring to see sunflowers, cucumbers, squash etc up and growing. They’re somewhat protected from the elements but they’re still getting hit with cold and rain/snow.
Bobina* April 17, 2022 at 5:20 am It feels like such a random thing to be envious of but your compost setup sounds amazing! Yet another random thing for me to aspire to :D
Chauncy Gardener* April 17, 2022 at 7:24 am Mine did when I lived in a tropical climate. I had no idea! The flowers were very fragrant.
Patio Furniture* April 16, 2022 at 8:30 am Hi all – looking for recs for comfy patio furniture (good prices too). Already looked a ton on wayfair, but looking for something a little more cozy! I had these lovely chairs at an Airbnb in italy and can’t seem to find anything similar in the states. If you google “ Emu – Bahama Deckchair, Scarlet / Red” they will come up. Has anyone seen a brand that sells something like that?
Dwight Schrute* April 16, 2022 at 9:13 am Those do look super comfy! They remind me a bit of zero gravity chairs- have you sat in both to see if they offer the same feel?
Generic Name* April 16, 2022 at 12:50 pm I’ve had bad luck with furniture from wayfair, so beware. The proces are reflective of general poor quality. (I’ve been happy with the light fixtures I’ve gotten there, however).
Juneybug* April 16, 2022 at 10:28 pm I have a patio set from Walmart and love it! However it definitely not what you were looking for but the Better Homes and Gardens collection are great patio furniture for a low price if you change your style. Another good thing, beside the quality, is you can return the furniture if you don’t like it. :) My set – Better Homes & Gardens Carter Hills 3 Piece Outdoor Metal Chat Set with Beige Cushions.
How do you say …* April 16, 2022 at 8:31 am Get a job before I kick you out? I’m not being funny or snarky. My partner has been out of work for 2 years (due to COVID). I know various things have negatively impacted partner’s confidence; I’ve tried to be supportive and encouraging and positive. Well, that seems to have worked too well. Partner just don’t seem to realize a job is now highest priority- we have a serious convo, interviews are attended, then in a few days partner settles back into “meh.” I can’t keep having forceful conversations about this every 5 days to keep partner job hunting for real. I have no desire to send partner packing, but at this point, I can’t stand any more of this . . . I need a healthy environment, I need my partner to be moving toward financial solvency … So how do I say “If you can’t find a job, we’ll have to separate until you do. Being partnered with someone who is this unmotivated is not an option for me. When you are solvent and handling life like an adult, we can resume our relationship.”? Or do those words work?
Asenath* April 16, 2022 at 8:36 am I haven’t been in that exact situation, but I’d be tempted to say “We can’t afford to keep this household up with no income from you. We’re going to have to split (followed by whatever makes financial sense; giving up the place, or you keeping it and looking for someone to share the rent.” It sounds like he’s not taking the serious convos seriously, so time for a next step.
Expiring Cat Memes* April 16, 2022 at 9:46 am This is where I would land too. “I can’t keep us both afloat much longer. Either you find a job by x date or we have to find separate living situations that we can each personally afford.” Then follow through, and stick to it no matter what charming words and excuses they throw your way. I’m sorry, it sounds like a tough situation with your partner becoming increasingly comfortable with you carrying the financial load. But when someone starts relaxing into being completely reliant on you (financially/ emotionally/whatever) in ways that absolve themselves of personal responsibility, that’s not usually a sign of a healthy relationship.
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 9:02 am Right. I don’t know if you own or rent but my *friend* was the leech one time (she was trying to pursue a creative dream that wasn’t paying off) and her husband made her see reason by saying, “We will have to sell the house by X date if you’re not bringing in Y a month by then; how do you feel about moving back in with my parents?” Wowza, that really worked. She still pursues her dream but also got a paying job.
Wildcat* April 16, 2022 at 8:42 am If your partner didn’t have you to use as a crutch, they would have found some kind of job already. So you probably feel like they’re taking advantage, which can be very frustrating.
Ali + Nino* April 17, 2022 at 11:41 pm This is my question – when you describe him as settling into a stage of “meh,” do you mean he’s turning down valid job offers? To me, that would be unacceptable.
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 8:50 am If that would resolve the issues with the relationship, then yes, I think those words work fine. You would also be totally reasonable to give a specific deadline for either a resolution or at least specific steps, if that would work for you. And if it’s too late to resolve, that’s okay too. I divorced this person twice. (I know :P I was 18 with the first one and knew it was a mistake before we got married but didn’t know how to get out of it. The second one managed to pretend to be a responsible adult until we got married, then he gave up all pretense along with his job and ultimately had a job for about 4 months total of the 3.5 years we were married.)
Falling Diphthong* April 16, 2022 at 10:46 am I, too, foresee a possible future in which 6 months from now HDYS’s ex arrives to tell her he is now financially solvent and so they can go back to how things were and he’s moving back in and that… really not being appealing. Be open to the possibility that as this has worn on, the lack of job looks like the only thing because it’s the big and obviously fixable thing. Two years ago it probably was the only thing–but maybe not now.
Dwight Schrute* April 16, 2022 at 9:17 am I think it depends on your relationship but those sound like something I’d say to my partner if he was doing that. Some people would probably soften the language but I don’t know that you’d need to. Sorry you’re being forced to make that kind of decision :/.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 9:30 am I personally wouldn’t say the “or we’ll have to separate until you do.” I would just say that it’s been a long time, you know it’s been hard, but you can’t stay in a relationship if they continue not seriously pursuing employment. I’d say something to the effect of that if they need to pursue counseling or medication or something, to get past their lack of motivation, they should do that, but if you don’t see a change soon, then it’s going to be time to break up.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 9:32 am And I would also address that you can’t keep having the tough “pursue employment” conversation with them every week. So this needs to be something that they initiate on their own from now on, though you’re happy to serve as a resource if they bring it up, but you’re not going to keep driving the train.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 9:35 am And I’d even say, if they keep having trouble finding something long term, they could find a retail or waiting tables job in the interim (if you’d be ok with that). But you won’t keep carrying the household yourself. And if you’re not ok with that then obvi don’t bring up that option.
L. Ron Jeremy* April 16, 2022 at 10:05 am I think those words will work. Shortly after I married my wife, she became Ill and never recovered. Been married for 34 years now and, even though it’s been tough on one income, I loved her too much to kick her out. Hopefully you’ll stay single and just partner up so you can kick them out when they lack ambition in the future.
tiredlibrarian* April 16, 2022 at 10:37 am That seems a bit harsh – based on what the commenter said, it sounds like he’s not working not because he can’t, but because he hasn’t been willing to put in the work to do a sustained job search and is comfortable with the commenter supporting them both. That’s a bit of a different situation than a partner who gets ill and can’t work.
Asenath* April 16, 2022 at 10:38 am There’s a big difference between being unable and unwilling to work.
Wombats and Tequila* April 16, 2022 at 2:33 pm I missed the part where OP willingly accepted the burden of fully supporting an able bodied adult. I have a friend with severe MS. He still contributes to the household by cleaning and cooking when he’s up to it, contributing his disability $$, and taking cash gigs when he can so he doesn’t lose his disability (one drugs alone costs $6,000). OP is simply enabling an able bodied adult at this point, to the detriment of her own financial future, and his personal growth.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 2:50 pm I don’t think they’re married, and also there’s a big difference with someone who medically cannot work and some who prefers to stay home and watch Netflix because work isn’t fun.
Two Cents* April 17, 2022 at 9:44 am The key difference is that your wife fell ill – the commenter’s partner isn’t ill, they’re just unwilling or unmotivated to find work. If you love someone, you are kind to them. Enabling isn’t being kind to your partner. It will only get harder and harder for the partner to find work the longer they stay unemployed. It’s less like your ill wife and more like the adult child who perpetually lives at home for free. Even though it’s done out of love, eventually financing an unsustainable lifestyle hinders them more than it helps.
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 10:08 am After two years, he’s not working because he doesn’t want to and there have been no repercussions so he doesn’t have to. Otherwise, he could at least pick up something part time like retail. Stop having conversations every five days and have the come to Jesus conversation.
Loves libraries* April 16, 2022 at 10:37 am Sounds super frustrating. Maybe make a clear line between a negative outcome for you as a couple and the way things are at present. Perhaps this is financial? In my case when I had a somewhat similar situation (finances weren’t a problem and we didn’t live together) I explained that having a role in the world (job or even unpaid vocation) was a key value to me and his decision to forgo that for an extended period caused me to lose respect for him. Which is a pretty core part of a relationship
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 10:47 am I’m stealing this “role in the world.” When looking for a roommate recently I knew I wanted someone who leaves the house and engages with others once in awhile but this is very succinct and I could put it in my next ad.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 10:48 am When we went through a bad time with unemployment in the 2008 crash, I told my husband he needed to get into therapy or we needed couples counseling, because our status quo was intolerable, and I couldn’t make it better by myself if he wasn’t going to try. We did 2 sessions together and he did 1 on his own, and we were able to make some productive decisions and move forward. Our situation was different than yours, because we were married with kids and he had been the main breadwinner. He was stuck in a loop where he wanted to recreate that, but wouldn’t / couldn’t engage with the job hunt enough to find anything. Our resolution was for me to get the main job and have him be the SAHP for a while. Sounds very simple and logical, but there was a lot of unspoken baggage that needed to be unpacked and released first. But the overall idea that “we can’t go on like this, something has to change, I can’t fix it unless you are equally engaged” is the place I recommend starting the conversation. Don’t walk in with a pre-planned solution. Start by naming the problem – the partnership is unequal. The ultimatum (if any) should be attached to his participating in finding the solution, not in a specific outcome. Otherwise you wind up making artificial deadlines based on things he can’t control (like a start date for a job), which will mean you continually move the deadline back. Totally self-defeating. Or else you wind up micromanaging him in ways that further infantilize him and frustrate you. Best of luck – I hope it all works out for the best!
A.N. O'Nyme* April 16, 2022 at 11:01 am Difficult to say without knowing exactly what it is that has taken a toll on your partner’s confidence, but you are the best judge of your situation. At any rate, you definitely do need something far stronger than a weekly conversation that your partner doesn’t continue to follow up on, and it does sound like being blunt may do the trick. Whatever you end up doing though, be prepared to follow up on splitting up if you do go that route.
Lore* April 16, 2022 at 12:15 pm My partner was frequently unemployed (and underemployed when employed) for five-ish years (long story involving caregiving for elderly parents, and then of course pandemic), and I can say this: there was nothing I could do to guarantee that they would get a job, and sometimes their approach to job hunting was not what I would have done in the circumstances. But they did everything humanly possible to avoid this becoming a burden on me and our relationship, whether that was taking on more around the house, finding small ways to keep a little bit of cash flow for spending money–small temp jobs; selling collectibles; whatever–cutting down expenses; making sure I had what I needed to continue to succeed at my own job. In my case, there were reasons why a lot of “survival” jobs weren’t good options for my partner–disability issues that mean both call center work and any retail/food service that involves being on one’s feet all day would be extremely challenging–but they were finding even applications for entry level admin type jobs were getting poor response, even in this “hot economy”. (They did get a job earlier this year, hurray!) If your partner isn’t in that mindset of helping, then I think you can focus on what the impacts are on you and your relationship, and how to get partner into that mindset, whether that’s partner helping to make a sustainable financial plan for you both, partner taking on all domestic responsibilities to free up your time and space. But if you condition the continuance of your relationship on something that’s not entirely in your partner’s control, especially if they’re already feeling adrift and lacking in confidence, then I’m not sure how well that will work as an ultimatum, if your real goal is to motivate them to keep the relationship alive rather than to kick off a separation.
Wombats and Tequila* April 16, 2022 at 3:39 pm Your resentment is perfectly justified and you shouldn’t feel guilty about it. Maybe this guy has some invisible challenge such as ADHD, depression, anxiety, or low self esteem. Nonetheless, this is the best job market for workers that I have seen in my 6 decades. Yes, the earnings to COL ratio is poor, but it is easy to basically earn *something*. Food service jobs are always hiring. You can drive for Uber or Lyft or apply to work at an Amazon warehouse if there’s one in your area. None of these jobs takes much initiative to apply for. Show up, fill out the forms, pay attention, do what they ask. No, these are not the most fun jobs in the world, but they are jobs. It is doing no one any good for you to continue indulging him. The kindest thing you can do right now is do what Alison always advises managers to do with employees with performance problems: tell him sooner rather than later, and tell it to them straight. You can go ahead and start looking into the logistics of moving out. How much longer is your lease? If you are in the U.S. and you never re-signed the lease, it’s probably month to month, so you can leave any time after giving 30 – 60 days notice. If you adore your place and he is not on the lease, you can ask him to leave with a 30 to 60 days notice, and if he refuses, you can begin an eviction process. If he is on the lease, you can’t evict him, so your only escape is to move out yourself. So look over your lease, learn the housing rules of your state and local jurisdiction, and make a plan for separating based on that. Also, take a look at where you could possible move so you get an idea of how much to save up. See if any friends know of a house share that might be opening up. Bear in mind that making a plan is not the same as actually separating. But this way, when you have your conversation, you are not basing your fate on whether or not he does what you want. You will be ready to take your own fate into your hands. You say that you are not ready to end the relationship, but really that means you wish he would do this thing that would make you happy. You are still clinging to hope. However, he may not be willing to change his ways without being left on his own. If that were the case, if you knew for a fact that if you stay and 6 months from now, or 1 year from now, or 5 years from now, everything would be the same, promises or shirt lived jobs followed by long periods “looking” and “it’s hard, you just don’t understand,” would you still choose that future? If not, then you need to act as if that is your inevitable fate unless you take the initiative to be the “bad guy.” Consider that maybe having a woman he loves respect him and herself enough to demand that he pull his weight, and for her to be strong enough to follow through and walk if he doesn’t, may actually be the best thing for him at this moment. He may just be in a rut and need that shock, or he will never be the man he was meant to be. It sucks for you, but it may be how things have to shake out. So, write down what you want to say. Use your words above if you want, or you can say, “I am increasingly resentful that I have been carrying the entire financial burden of this relationship with no more than token gestures on your part to get a job and contribute, so much so that I am seriously contemplating leaving. I am not having this conversation again. You need to get a job and contribute, or I will end this relationship.” From what I have read above, this is true, is it not? So why drag it out? Tell it straight. Resist the urge to comfort and reassure him. He does not need comfort and reassurance. He is not a toddler. He is a grown man who is not acting like one. He will survive his girlfriend being displeased with him. Even if you love him, this is not a bond with the Universe signed in blood for all time to Never Displease Him Ever. He should be no less considerate of you, right? So why should you be hugely concerned about upsetting him when he is apparently unconcerned about upsetting you and in fact imperiling your financial future? You know what you should be doing with this money that is going to support him? Building up an emergency cushion for yourself in case you lose your job or get sick or disabled. Saving for a car, vacation, or house. Saving for your retirement. Yes, the money you waste on him today is robbing your future self tenfold. If he doesn’t care about that, does he really love you as much as you love him? So be bold, give the short speech, and leave the house so he can have his reaction. If he immediately goes into action and secures one of the humble, somewhat unpleasant, easily secured jobs mentioned above, and then pays his way cheerfully, without no complaints or guilt trips, until such time as he finds something better, then it might be ok to stay. Or, if you still found yourself resenting him and waiting for some kind or ramification, you can leave anyway. If, after the initial shock, he makes excuses, sighs and makes a big drama like you’re asking something horrible and cruel of him, guilt trips you, finds little things to nitpick which were never a problem before, completely drops his share of household chores because he’s too tired!!! (leaving you, also employed, to do everything), acts out sexually, or otherwise retaliates or expresses resentment in any fashion whatsoever, then walk, because he is showing that he never loved you; he was using you all along. If he is angry with you at all, then get your valuables and pets out of there and leave. A good man who was just in a rut would never, ever, ever show anger for being asked to do his share, not even for an instant. If you feel afraid at all, call the police without hesitation. There is no excuse for that garbage. It is an insult to all good men, even good men who have gotten themselves into a rut, to go into denial, normalize, or make excuses for that sort of thing.
Ali G* April 16, 2022 at 8:37 pm I’m late to the party and you have received a lot of good advice. I just wanted to add, for words, I recently had to say to my husband something along the lines of “this was not the relationship I signed up for and if this continues there will be consequences for our marriage.” That seemed to do the trick. We’ve been in a stressfull time, and while I understood what was going on, he needed to know it couldn’t continue long term. Good luck to you!
Former Retail Manager* April 17, 2022 at 12:48 pm Been in this boat, but I was married. I kicked him out, sent him to live with his parents in another state and told him that he needed to find a job with a company that would allow him to transfer back to this area and if our relationship (and family) was a priority that’s what he would do…..well, he didn’t. I divorced him. He did shortly thereafter realize that I was serious…..being served with divorce papers will do that I guess, and he did get it together about 6 months after the divorce was finalized. We reconciled and have been together over 20 years now with no further issues. We were young (early 20’s) when this all happened, so I think youthful immaturity may explain some of my situation, but if your partner is late 20’s or in their 30’s, frankly, I’d be more concerned. I always handled the bills & money management (still do) but back when this was an issue, I wrote out a very simply list of monthly income and expenses to show him that it just wasn’t working, gave him very explicit expectations with regard to how much I needed him to make and contribute (which were realistic and totally doable) and gave him a timeline. When he failed to meet it more than once, I finally made good and booted him. Doing so will either snap your partner out of whatever they’re in or potentially solidify for you that your financial goals & values don’t align.
Teapot Translator* April 16, 2022 at 8:34 am Last week, in the book thread, someone mentioned mystery books with non-white main characters. I thought I’d ask for recommendations here. The one’s I already know : Ben Aaronovitch’s River Series Barbara Neely’s Blanche series Ovidia Yu’s Auntie Lee
Forensic13* April 16, 2022 at 8:53 am Colin Cotterill’s books set in Laos with Dr. Siri Paiboun Walter Mosley’s detective books (they’re a bit hard-boiled for my taste, but good) I wasn’t personally a HUGE fan of the first book in a new series, Arsenic and Adobe, by Mia Manansala, but it was cute!
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 12:17 pm I love the “Dr. Siri” books! Mystery, elements of magic/ghosts (not as helpful as one might imagine, though), marvelous relationships between the characters, snarky dialogue, a great sense of place…
Wildcat* April 16, 2022 at 9:12 am Assuming you’re including books in non western settings. Widows of Malabar Hill No. 1 Lady’s Detective Agency The Missing American
sagewhiz* April 16, 2022 at 9:22 am Not exactly full-on mysteries, but … Colson Whitehead’s Harlem Shuffle Walter Mosley’s Easy Rawlins series, starting with Devil in a Blue Dress
MaxKitty* April 16, 2022 at 10:23 am Vish Puri series (India) by Tarquin Hall Tannie Maria series (South Africa) by Sally Andrew Perveen Mistry series (India) by Sujata Massey (The Widows of Malabar Hill mentioned above is the first of the series.)
Falling Diphthong* April 16, 2022 at 10:51 am I just read Yu’s The Frangipani Chen Su Lin, set in 1930s Singapore. Quite liked it and have requested the next in the series. The Perveen Mistry (Indian, I think Zoroastrian, early 20th c) and Rei Shimura (half Japanese, modern) series by Sujata Massey.
OtterB* April 16, 2022 at 12:42 pm Post-Civil War with magic, but also a mystery: The Conductors by Nicole Glover.
Blomma* April 16, 2022 at 2:49 pm Thank you for asking this again! I love mysteries (I keep trying to read other genres but just don’t enjoy them as much) and want to read more of them with non-white characters and written by non-white authors.
Wink and Tea* April 16, 2022 at 4:36 pm The Wyndham and Banerjee Mysteries by Abir Mukherjee is a pretty solid series, if a bit intense.
Clisby* April 16, 2022 at 7:29 pm Barbara Hamby’s Ben January series. Alexander McCall Smith’s #1 Ladies Detective Agency series.
Squirrel Nutkin* April 16, 2022 at 11:59 pm I really enjoyed Barbara Neely’s books too! I’d add Valerie Wilson Wesley’s first Tamara Hayle book, *When Death Comes Stealing*, which I thought was AWESOME! The later ones she wrote are okay, but that one was really gripping.
MEH Squared* April 17, 2022 at 1:03 am The Tattoo Murder Case by Akinitsu Takagi. It’s written in 1948 and is set in Tokyo. It’s pretty grim, but also very compelling.
Tofu Fan* April 17, 2022 at 12:50 pm Daughter of the Sword by Steve Bein is about a female detective in Tokyo. It’s got present day and past storylines and fantasy elements and is part of a trilogy.
So Much To Think About* April 17, 2022 at 1:23 pm I have several suggestions, and so appreciate all these new options to add to my to-be-read list! S.A. Crosby wrote “Blacktop Wasteland,” a *very* gritty semi-mystery, and “Razorblade Tears,” similar but maybe not quite as gripping. Cheryl Head’s “Bury Me When I’m Dead” is a classic noir mystery, but with a Black woman lead. Ditto for Nadine Matheson’s “The Jigsaw Man,” set in London and with that “British mystery” feel. I didn’t LOVE Bredan Slocum’s “The Violin Conspiracy” but it did keep me reading until the end. Great thread!
Ali + Nino* April 17, 2022 at 11:51 pm Sort of a mystery: Searching for Sylvie Lee by Jean Kwok. I enjoyed it a lot.
Pocket Mouse* April 16, 2022 at 8:42 am I have a loved one who is facing a cancer diagnosis. She and I live across the country from each other, and I’d like to support her in the ways that I can. As a way of gathering ideas: if you or a family member have faced a scary diagnosis and/or period of intense medical treatment, what actions did you appreciate from people who lived far away? What made you feel supported, and what did you wish people would avoid?
Miel* April 16, 2022 at 9:22 am I’m so sorry to hear about your friend. I would highly recommend the book “There’s no good card for this” by Emily McDowell and Kelsey Crowe. It answers pretty much every question you’re asking, from the perspective of people who’ve faced cancer and loss.
Irish Teacher.* April 16, 2022 at 10:06 am I had a very mild form of cancer and one of the things I really appreciated was my direct boss straight up asking me how I wanted her to support me. I think that would be equally true with somebody who lived far away. I also had a couple of colleagues give me small gifts, like a notebook or send a card which I really appreciated. In my case, what I wanted people to avoid was unnecessary fuss. I wanted things as normal as possible. It was a different situation as it really was just a matter of having an operation, so no intense medical treatment, but still kinda scary.
RosyGlasses* April 16, 2022 at 5:42 pm I was in the same boat. Honestly, just having friends send little care cards or boxes and knowing they cared was enough for me. I didn’t want to make a big deal about it for me but I still appreciated that folks knew I was dealing with A Big Thing/Surgery and it was nice to know they cared. Depending on what they like, big fuzzy socks, blanket, books or activity books, gift cards for coffee or treats – those were nice little items.
MaxKitty* April 16, 2022 at 10:29 am We sent one relative a couple of care boxes, based on on-line suggestions of helpful items for people undergoing cancer treatment. With another one facing intense treatment for just a couple of months, I sent a steady stream of cards, postcards, etc., some with silly jokes, some just saying hang in there, thinking of you, whatever.
TheDisenchantedForest* April 16, 2022 at 1:54 pm +1 to care packages and regularly checking in. I did this when family and friends had cancer or prolonged illness; it doesn’t have to be anything big – just a card or stickers etc – basically anything that lets the person know that they’re not alone during a difficult time. Getting a random text or card or package can make a huge difference, especially on those down days.
Asenath* April 16, 2022 at 10:46 am I liked people who let me do things my way – who didn’t usually bring up my diagnosis, although one or two made a very practical offer of help, once, for me to accept or not, no strings or follow-ups. My employer made no fuss either; I was easily able to arrange leave for the surgery and those tests and treatments. And the thing, bar none, that I really appreciated, were the regular weekly phone calls from someone halfway across the country. They still continue, although I’m well past the crisis now, and with an excellent prognosis. Of course, each week there were the routine “How are you doing?” questions, but there was a lot of ordinary chitchat that just kept me feeling connected and not isolated.
Juneybug* April 16, 2022 at 10:51 pm Same here. My sister just keep me in the loop of her life and to hear about “normal” things was so nice. It made me feel that normal would happen again.
A.N. O'Nyme* April 16, 2022 at 11:06 am I would suggest asking your friend directly if there’s anything you can do or how she wants this handled. There’s not really a single answer to something like this.
A.N. O'Nyme* April 16, 2022 at 11:09 am (hit submit too soon) A very consistent thing I have noticed, however, is that people hate having assumptions made for how to handle this – unwanted or unneeded help, people awkwardly avoiding the elephant in the room when you really want someone who is not a doctor to talk frankly to or the exact opposite with people who keep bringing it up when you just want to have a normal film evening and not think about it for a few hours.
Falling Diphthong* April 16, 2022 at 11:11 am Cards. Pop up, or a particularly beautiful image, etc. I am not a card person normally, but I was so run down–a little spot of beauty in the day really helped. I was immensely grateful to the folk at my husband’s work who organized a meal train. And if my cancer returns, I will push for a cleaning service to come in. In both of these, there’s an element of not having to do the planning for the task to occur that can be an immense relief. In that vein, gift of a favorite snack, or healthy snack (sometimes people are changing up their diet, so try to be aware of that before you send a ton of banana bread), or gift card for a restaurant you know she likes closeby, or books or magazines. (When my mom had a stroke, eventually the thing I could send that was useful was local home/garden magazines not available 2000 miles away where she lived.) If you know what genres she likes, a list of things on streaming services she has that she might like to check out when laying on the couch. (I did a lot of classic Great British Bakeoff.) If you’re going to chat, ask what sort of chat she is up for. Maybe she wants to talk about the diagnosis. Maybe she would love you to describe the latest soccer snack drama while she listens with her eyes closed. Maybe she would like a normal back and forth that doesn’t focus on the illness.
UKDancer* April 16, 2022 at 11:16 am My cousin had cancer. I sent her the flowers she liked best at the halfway point of her chemotherapy. I sent her ginger tea because she mentioned it helped with nausea. I also sent her some bath salts from a range for people with cancer. Because of Covid I couldn’t be with her as we were under lockdown, so I sent her regular emails and tried to be there if she wanted to talk. It didn’t feel like very much but I wanted to do something to make her feel better and be there for her as I could.
marvin the paranoid android* April 16, 2022 at 12:52 pm In my experience, these are pretty safe bets when someone you know is going through it: -Check in regularly but don’t get annoyed if they can’t always respond. Don’t forget to do this after the initial flurry of news is over, because the vast majority of people disappear at this stage. -Be open to listening and affirming their experiences. Hold back on offering solutions unless you’re being asked for them. Never say anything that dismisses their feelings. Do not force them to think positively. -To the extent that they are up for it, continue to maintain some degree of your normal social dynamic with the person. Don’t make them feel like they are now “just their diagnosis” to you. -If you have the opportunity, it may be helpful to corral other family members/mutual acquaintances as appropriate. That kind of social management is hard to deal with when you’re struggling, so it’s a nice thing to take care of for someone, if you have the chance to do this without overstepping.
Irish Teacher.* April 17, 2022 at 5:18 am “-Be open to listening and affirming their experiences. Hold back on offering solutions unless you’re being asked for them. Never say anything that dismisses their feelings. Do not force them to think positively.” I especially agree with this. I think that in any stressful or upsetting situation, the most annoying thing is when people try to tell you how you feel or how you should feel, whether it’s “oh, you must be so upset/worried” or “just think positive. Don’t worry about it,” it’s dismissive. It’s usually best to take your cues from the person.
WS* April 17, 2022 at 6:39 am I wish people had stayed in contact with me but also understood I might not be up to regular activities and/or conversations on demand. Instead most people said “Oh, that’s terrible” and immediately dumped me.
So Much To Think About* April 17, 2022 at 1:28 pm I have done this twice, and both women still talk about what it meant to them: I sent a card EVERY MONDAY for more than a year. Funny, serious, completely ridiculous (like a Happy Hanukkah card in February to a Catholic), maybe with a cut-out article, or a bookmark … but something every Monday for the entirety of each of their treatment and recovery. Once I wrote a five line limerick (of the safe-for-children variety) and sent one line/week for five weeks. Just … SOMETHING that made them smile!
Pocket Mouse* April 17, 2022 at 4:22 pm Thank you all! I’ve requested the No Good Card For This book from my library and have a tentative plan for mailing stuff and approaches for other modes of contact.
Invisible fish* April 16, 2022 at 8:52 am Lookin’ for book recs for certain genre: the old “amazing historical discovery that somehow other people have not noticed for thousands of years” type. Think of She by H. Rider Haggard but without the racism, or James Rollins when he’s just telling a story instead of fixating on his Sigma Six characters (Amazonia, Subterranean, Excavation, etc.). I’m also a Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child fan- shocking, no? Obviously, I’ve read pretty much everything by those authors – suggestions?
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 9:00 am Matthew Reilly’s Jack West series (begins with Seven Deadly Wonders, seven books total, series is complete with no more books coming out) might be along those lines? They’re very much modern Indiana Jones type feeling to me, with an underlying theme of found/chosen family that’s kind of endearing. (I’m not sure I’m interpreting your genre description quite right, but this is what it made me think of at least.)
MMB* April 16, 2022 at 9:51 am This might not be exactly what you’re looking for but Wilbur Smith’s Ancient Egypt series is excellent.
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 10:12 am Omg, I forgot about James Rollins because yeah, the Sigma Six stuff bored me. What about Michael Chrichton?
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 12:38 pm Jeff Long’s THE DESCENT deals with the discovery of a vast subterranean network of tunnels inhabited by… um, well, it’s probably more effective when discovered via the increasingly horrifying scenes in the book. Does shade more towards horror than golden-age-heroic-exploration, but it had its points. Then there’s a classic, Jules Verne’s JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH; the various screen adaptations tend to wander from the original, and while it has its wacky and sometimes badly-out-of-date aspects it’s worth a read.
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 12:39 pm Oh, and for a variation on the theme, SLEEPING GIANTS by Sylvain Neuvel, in which the ancient historical discovery turns out to be a giant mecha from the stars!
TheDisenchantedForest* April 16, 2022 at 1:57 pm River of Doubt is about an expedition to the Amazon taken by former US President Teddy Roosevelt, where he discovered a previously unknown branch of the Amazon which is actually longer than the Amazon river itself. He spent years trying to prove his discovery. A great read.
Pam* April 16, 2022 at 6:19 pm I love Nevil Shute’s work-“- try Pied Piper, about a man trying to get out of France during the second World War.
Falling Diphthong* April 17, 2022 at 7:47 am The Last Camel Died at Noon, by Elizabeth Peters. Part of the ongoing Amelia Peabody (Victorian archaeologist) mysteries, but you could pick this one up alone. It’s clearly written with those stories in mind–I think it explicitly references She. Dude disappears in the desert chasing tales of a lost oasis…. and a decade later sends a message.
Buni* April 17, 2022 at 12:09 pm Stel Pavlou, ‘Decipher’ – team of soldiers & scientists discover that a supercomputer hidden under the ice of Antartica by the last race of humans to inhabit the earth is the only thing that can save the planet from a massive solar flare. Kind of a riff on that nuclear waste debate about how to convey information across 10,000+ years without a shared language etc. (also gave me slight Stargate: Atlantis vibes).
Tofu Fan* April 17, 2022 at 2:05 pm If your library gives you access to NovelistPlus, try searching the theme “Ancient Enigmas” to see if any Clive Cussler, Matthew Reilly, etc. sound appealing.
Dwight Schrute* April 16, 2022 at 9:32 am Books from your childhood that you still like to revisit as adults? I still enjoy Nancy Drew!
Dwight Schrute* April 16, 2022 at 9:44 am Ohhh that sounds like a fun series! I’m also reminded I’d like to revisit the magic treehouse books
CTT* April 16, 2022 at 9:41 am I return to a lot of Diana Wynne Jones books; I just finished a reread of The Merlin Conspiracy (an underrated one of hers!)
Lore* April 16, 2022 at 10:10 am Susan Cooper’s The Dark Is Rising series is well worth going back to periodically. Philip Pullman. Most of Madeleine L’Engle continues to delight me.
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 10:14 am I don’t revisit childrens books but I am sometimes tempted to reread the little house series.
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 10:37 am I did that last year after reading Prairie Fires, an actual non-fiction biography of Laura Ingalls Wilder, and it was very nostalgic.
Anonymous Cat* April 16, 2022 at 12:25 pm I sometimes think of doing that because I know so much more of what was going on. Occasionally I remember a scene from the books and I realize what was really happening. So I’m curious what else I missed!
Dark Macadamia* April 16, 2022 at 1:02 pm One day I was just randomly thinking about the books and had a sudden PA DID BLACKFACE realization.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 16, 2022 at 5:18 pm OMG SAME When I was a kid I was just like “huh. that’s some kind of old-timey thing I guess. Paint our faces and do music? Before TV I guess that’s your most exciting Friday night??”
DarthVelma* April 16, 2022 at 2:02 pm “Little House in the Big Woods” is still one of my go to books when I’m sick and can’t sleep. You can tell from my dog-eared copy that I tend to open it up to the part where they have the “sugaring off” party. (The other two sick but can’t sleep books are “Hunt for Red October” and “8.4”. I admit to having weird taste in literature, especially when I’m sick.)
Mimmy* April 16, 2022 at 2:30 pm Not the books, but I’d love to revisit the Little House TV series. I was obsessed with it as a little girl (when it was in reruns).
Invisible today* April 17, 2022 at 9:19 pm Little house on the Prairie did not hold up well at all. Some of the others do… little house in big woods and on the banks of plum creek come to mind.
Kathenus* April 16, 2022 at 10:17 am All my Madeleine L’Engle and S.E. Hinton books, can’t count how many times I’ve re-read them.
UKDancer* April 16, 2022 at 11:11 am I love Lucy Boston’s Green Knowe series, Joan Aiken’s Battersea series and Susan Cooper’s Dark is Rising. I also reread some of Penelope Lively’s books because they’re well written. I also love the ghost stories that Philippa Pearce wrote and some of the Andrew Lang fairy books simply because they’re beautiful. I like Tamora Pierce especially her earlier ones.
Falling Diphthong* April 16, 2022 at 11:16 am Danny Dunn. I’d read them from the library (over and over) and my husband had the set when we met. Still have them decades later. The Witches of Karres. I was pleased to discover there are several sequels, which are pretty good. And This is Laura, about a 12 year old who discovers she’s psychic. The Westing Game, about the heirs to a millionaire trying to solve the will to inherit the money. I really liked The Bagthorpes though haven’t revisited in a while.
Amey* April 16, 2022 at 1:49 pm Ahh, just coming here to say the Bagthorpes still hold up! I reread Ordinary Jack recently and it’s hilarious. And I need to read The Westing Game again, that’s one I used to reread a lot too but haven’t in a while.
Katiekins* April 16, 2022 at 3:12 pm Definitely the Westing Game. Even when you know the solution to the mystery/puzzle, it is a great reread. I reread it every few years.
Blomma* April 16, 2022 at 3:19 pm Love The Westing Game! I revisited that one via audiobook last year (probably 15 years after the last time I read it) and really enjoyed the experience.
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 3:41 pm And This is Laura, about a 12 year old who discovers she’s psychic. I loved that one, and they made an ABC Afterschool Special, or Weekend Special or whatever, out of it.
Aealias* April 16, 2022 at 10:44 pm If you still enjoy the Witches of Karres and its sequels, you might like Schmitz’ other work republished in the last 10-15 years by Baen. The Telzey Amberdon series of short stories straight up holds up, and I enjoy the Trigger Argee stories through a lens of “the times were sexist, and this was pretty damned advanced FOR THE ERA.” The voice is consistent throughout.
Dark Macadamia* April 16, 2022 at 11:52 am I need to revisit Nancy Drew! When I was a kid I gradually collected the original 56 books at garage sales, antique stores, etc. It’s funny to think about now that anything can be found on the internet, my mom had a list on paper of the books I still needed and it was always so exciting to see those yellow covers at a used bookshop.
Dark Macadamia* April 16, 2022 at 11:57 am I re-read His Dark Materials every couple years, and recently did A Wrinkle in Time and its sequels too. I need to dig out The Dalemark Quartet and Sally Lockhart mysteries, they were some of my favorites as a teen an d I don’t think I’ve read either for at least 15 years! I’ve read some of the Little House books to my daughter and we just started Harry Potter, which is a really fun one to read aloud even though I’ve re-read it on my own many times.
GoryDetails* April 16, 2022 at 12:23 pm The Secret Garden! Still love that book. (There’s a new graphic novel retelling called The Secret Garden on 81st Street, a modern-day multicultural version of the story that manages to retain the main characters and elements while fitting it all into a modern setting.) Kipling’s The Jungle Book – the Mowgli stories and the stand-alones like “Rikki-tikki-tavi”. Oh, and the “Just So Stories” as well, Oh Best Beloved.
Rara Avis* April 16, 2022 at 1:01 pm There’s an amazing graphic novel retelling of Little Women called Meg, Jo, Beth, and Amy by Rex Ogle
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 4:17 pm Rikki-tikki-tavi and the cartoon of it made me scared there were cobras in the garden and I told my parents we needed a mongoose. :’D
T. Boone Pickens* April 16, 2022 at 12:43 pm I came across some old Hardy Boys books from when I was a kid and it was fun giving them a re-read. I was also hoping to find my collection of Matt Christopher books but I think those got donated a long, long time ago.
Double A* April 16, 2022 at 12:54 pm The Secret Garden and Ronald Dahl books (I know he’s super problematic but he’s one I just have to separate the art from the artist.) Also I didn’t read this a a kid first but in my 20s and it’s YA: the His Dark Material series by Phillip Pullman.
Nessun* April 16, 2022 at 1:17 pm The Secret Garden, and anything by Roald Dahl or Gordon Korman. Especially love his high school stuff – A Semester in the Life of a Garbage Bag, Son of Interflux, or Don’t Care High.
Amey* April 16, 2022 at 1:47 pm I love the fact that many of mine have already been mentioned. I reread Diana Wynne Jones’ whole back catalogue regularly, and Susan Cooper’s Dark is Rising series. Zilpha Keatley Snyder’s The Egypt Game, The Headless Cupid and Libby on Wednesday. Rumer Godden’s Listen to the Nightingale. Gordon Korman’s The Twinkie Squad. The Best Christmas Pageant Ever. The Hunger Games totally holds up for me. Many of these are super specifically nostalgic for me though and I’d be totally identifiable to anyone who knows me well if they found this post! These are almost all books I read to myself as a kid and reread to my siblings so very fond memories. But I will reread Diana Wynne Jones any time!
Amey* April 16, 2022 at 1:53 pm And it turns out I hadn’t reloaded the page and I am totally delighted to find that my more obscure ones have also been mentioned! My people are clearly here.
TheDisenchantedForest* April 16, 2022 at 1:59 pm The Chrestomanci series; The Hobbit; Anne of Green Gables; Harry Potter to name a few.
Zippy* April 16, 2022 at 2:55 pm What a great thread. Some books I reread a lot: The Chronicles of Narnia, The Mixed Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler, A Wrinkle in Time, The Wizard of Earthsea and other books by Ursula LeGuin, The Enchanted Castle by E. Nesbit (though it took me aback when I reread a chapter with some stuff we would never write today — it’s from the early 1900’s), and lately the Oz books, which I started reading aloud to my kitty when she wasn’t feeling well. Probably calmed me down more than did her any good. :-) My favorite book as a young teen was A Tree Grows in Brooklyn and it is still my favorite book of all time. When I turned 30 (oh so many years ago) as a gift to myself I went to a children’s bookstore and bought a load of things I had loved as a child but didn’t possess anymore. I recommend it!
Katiekins* April 16, 2022 at 3:19 pm I also reread the Mixed Up Files of Mrs. Basil E Frankweiler. It struck me recently that this and the Westing Game are top rereads, and they both deal with “smart young girl solves a mystery and inherits something of value and keeps it secret, and also discovers her own self worth.” Plus in the case of MUFoMBEF, hides out in (“hides out in–what kind of language is that?”) the Metropolitan Museum of Art, what could be cooler.
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 3:37 pm I had to give up on Nancy. If she’s such a great detective, how come she always gets knocked in the head every time? You think she’d learn to be more careful. Or maybe all the concussions took their toll! Here are mine, not counting picture books I can’t bring myself to get rid of and kids’ books I read as an adult: –the Ramona Quimby books (all Cleary, actually) –Charlotte’s Web –Strawberry Girl by Lois Lenski –Black Beauty –Hans Christian Anderson and Grimm’s Fairy Tales –Judy Blume, particularly Blubber and Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret –all the Paddington Bear books (I’ve added ones I didn’t have as a kid) –Charlie and the Chocolate Factory/Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator –Pippi Longstocking –A Tree Grows in Brooklyn –The Boyhood of Grace Jones –Ten Tales Calculated to Give You Shudders (c. 1972, a Whitman collection of classic horror fiction like The Monkey’s Paw, The Whistling Room, etc. that scared the living crap out of me) I donated all my Trixie Beldens to the library sale before I moved. They were just too silly to revisit, plus once someone told me there was Trixie/Jim/Marv, etc. erotica online, I just could not look at them without dying of laughter. So many of the books I read as a kid are extremely problematic—Caddie Woodlawn, Tom Sawyer, the Little House books, Island of the Blue Dolphins, etc. I loved them at the time but now I find them cringey even though they’re well-written stories overall. If I had kids, I probably would have pitched them long ago and provided other stuff for them to read.
Amey* April 16, 2022 at 3:49 pm I’ve recently started reading the Ramona books to my kids and been surprised by how well they’ve stood the test of time – the gentle empathetic parenting in particular feels really modern. And my kids adore them and relate so strongly to Ramona. All of your examples of problematic books are ones I also loved as a kid and could possibly still enjoy now (as I do other stuck in their time books such as my favourite golden age mystery novels) but would struggle to read to my kids, so the Ramona books were a lovely surprise.
Dark Macadamia* April 16, 2022 at 4:26 pm I love Ramona so much. I re-read the whole series to my daughter and they hit differently as a parent. I don’t know how Beverly Cleary managed to capture the experience of being a kid and feeling misunderstood by adults so accurately and compassionately while still being hilarious!
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 4:26 pm I love her so much. I still relate to her! Sometimes you have to make a great big noisy fuss, lol. And yes, I would only read the problematic ones to kids if I was certain they could understand a discussion about the issues. I forgot one in my list—a book by E. L. Konigsberg called Jennifer, Hecate, Macbeth, William McKinley, and Me, Elizabeth. Anyone read that? I lost my copy ages ago and really need to replace it. It was a huge fave. Also Irma’s Big Lie and The Wicked, Wicked Ladies in the Haunted House! Man, I could do this all day. :)
Amey* April 16, 2022 at 5:31 pm Oh, I read that one, but I don’t remember anything about it except the brilliant title! I read lots of E.L. Konigsberg because I adored The View from Saturday (also one of my rereads) and From the Mixed Up Files… but I found them quite hit or miss. She was always doing something different and interesting though.
Elizabeth West* April 17, 2022 at 1:12 pm The Jennifer, Hecate, etc. book was about a little girl (Elizabeth) who is new in her school and meets another little girl (Jennifer) who pretends she’s a witch. They construct this whole thing around the witch business as they’re getting to be friends. I think my house ate it. I couldn’t find it when I moved, along with a couple of other books and a hoodie and t-shirt I KNOW were in that back closet. I really think there was a hole in my house like that Twilight Zone episode when the toddler went through the wall into another dimension!
Falling Diphthong* April 17, 2022 at 7:59 am You never know what someone will draw from a book. When I was young Podkayne of Mars was a HUGE favorite of mine, and I picked up on all the sexist stuff but Heinlein was old–even older than my dad–so I cheerfully ignored all that. My daughter was into Twilight in its time, and I figured she would be fine and didn’t need me to provide a helpful old person critique of the themes. She has in fact turned out fine.
Elizabeth West* April 17, 2022 at 1:21 pm That’s true; when I first read Gone with the Wind at twelve, all I cared about was Rhett Butler and Scarlett’s beautiful dresses. Re Twilight—if I had a kid, obviously I would already have taught them about consent, abusive relationships, etc. I’m sure you did that too. If they wanted to read something old with gross junk in it, I think I’d definitely want to mention it, but that’s just me.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 16, 2022 at 5:30 pm Oh god it’s been ages since I read Caddie Woodlawn, and whatever was problematic I didn’t pick up on it as a child- can you summarize?
Elizabeth West* April 17, 2022 at 1:06 pm The way Native Americans were portrayed and the way they talked. The scalp belt, use of the words “squaw,” and the phrase “half-savage eyes” when describing how the children were fascinated with Caddie’s red hair. I would also add the whole massacre scare on which the climactic incident hinges (when Caddie sneaks out to warn Indian John’s tribe that the settlement intends to attack before they can be attacked), although that was part of the history of the time (because colonizers). You can read more in Debbie Reese’s essay “Reflections on Caddie Woodlawn: Teaching about Stereotypes using Literature.” Caddie was based on a real person—author Carol Ryrie Brink’s grandmother, Caroline Augusta Woodhouse. There is a sequel first called Magical Melons and now known as Caddie Woodlawn’s Family. I had it at one point but I don’t know where the hell it went.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 17, 2022 at 7:48 pm Holy cow I really have forgotten more of that book than I remember. Like…I didn’t remember that there were Native Americans at all. Jeez. Hope I haven’t recommended it to anyone in the past. Funny thing is, I still remember the title Magical Melons too.
Jay* April 16, 2022 at 6:59 pm Beany Malone. I don’t know why but they make me happy. I own them on Kindle.
Aealias* April 16, 2022 at 10:50 pm I’ve been reading Bruce Coville to my 7-yr-old (My Teacher Is An Alien! – although I’ve got an old AI Gang book on my shelf somewhere, too) and man, those are still good! The writing style is personable and engaging, the story is exciting, kiddo’s on the edge of their seat. There was one sexist joke I was tempted to elide – and it was called out immediately by another character, in no uncertain terms. I’m so pleased by how well some of my favourite childhood stories are holding up!
Squirrel Nutkin* April 17, 2022 at 12:10 am It’s great that so many people love *The Secret Garden* — me too! I re-read *Understood Betsy* recently as well. I like those “anxious, withdrawn cosmopolitan child gets sent to the country and learns practical skills and how to chill out” books. I would totally re-read all of the Encyclopedia Brown books again.
matcha123* April 17, 2022 at 12:18 am I work overseas so it’s a bit harder to revisit old books, but I have carried Jurassic Park with me for over a decade. I first read it in fifth grade? a yearish after the movie came out. And it scared the crap out of me. I re-read it every few years and with each new reading I discover something new.
allathian* April 17, 2022 at 2:58 am I read the Moomin books about once every ten years. I have fond memories of my dad reading them to us when I was 10 and my sister was 7. I was an advanced reader, but not quite at that level. I read them for the first time when I was in high school, and again in my late 20s and mid-30s. A few years ago I read them to my son, when I was in my late 40s, in an attempt to provide him with the same experience that I had. I still enjoy Anne of Green Gables.
Camelid coordinator* April 17, 2022 at 3:12 pm I am late to this party, but I love The Riddle-Master of Hed trilogy by Patricia McKillip. Little me wore out the original paperbacks reading them so much.
Clisby* April 17, 2022 at 4:04 pm Anne of Green Gables series; Betsy, Tacy, and Tib series; Charlotte’s Web; Nancy Drew; Beatrix Potter books.
Llellayena* April 16, 2022 at 9:48 am My offer was accepted on a house!!!!! I will be the proud owner of a lovely 3-bed townhome. Now for my question: when I made the offer, the seller asked if I could up my bid. My lender walked me through the numbers and I have very clear memories (though little written info) of what she said for mortgage insurance amount, assumed home insurance amount, APR, and total monthly payment which she clearly stated included the HOA. This reassured me that I could up my bid by an additional $15k. AFTER the offer was accepted and I started to receive the actual calculated loan documents, I noticed that all these numbers (except the home insurance) went up. I anticipated some change to the APR, those rates are making leaps and bounds right now. But mortgage insurance 3x what you told me? Home insurance assumed to be lower based on it being a “townhome” where it’s “walls in” (but the community is fee simple and I am responsible for the outside as well). An APR that’s higher even AFTER prepaying to get a lower rate (and advice on that prepaying for rate thing would be helpful too)? When there was less than a week between the two quoted rates? The total monthly cost is about $200 more now and does NOT include the HOA, which is definitely higher than I wanted to be, though not impossible. So, is this kinda normal or am I looking at something of a bait and switch? Is there anything I can do to argue these numbers when I don’t have anything written from what they assured me before the offer? They keep saying the numbers will “only go down” as they get more accurate pricing in, but every time they say that, something goes up…
L. Ron Jeremy* April 16, 2022 at 10:15 am Looks like you needed these numbers in writing from you lender right before you agreed to up your offer. It sounds like they didn’t lock the rate either. Also surprised the mortage surance is 3X what you expected. Sounds like you’ve been bitten by raising mortage rates. You can still walk away, but this will cost you your earnest money since you’re in escrow.
Can't think of a funny name* April 16, 2022 at 10:36 am The lender should have given you a document called a Loan Estimate…not just verbal info. I would go back to them and ask them to explain why all those things went up. When is closing supposed to be? You could attempt to get a new lender but you might not have enough time. Like L. Ron Jeremy says, you can back out and lose your earnest money. Do you have a real estate agent? Before you back out, they can ask the seller if they will agree to reducing the price…they might say no but they also might not want to start the process over. Do you have any contingencies in the sales document that could possibly get you out of the purchase?
Fit Farmer* April 16, 2022 at 10:44 am Yes, my impression has been that the loan officer at the bank has some level of discretion or wiggle room, which might allow them to reduce other fees or requirements to help make up for it — IF you can get them to admit that they ever told you those verbal numbers! My mortgage is with a small local bank, and it wouldn’t surprise me if giant bank would work differently.
Llellayena* April 16, 2022 at 12:14 pm I got that document…after the offer was accepted. At which point the numbers were higher. I only had an hour to decide to up my offer so I couldn’t wait for things in writing.
Decidedly Me* April 16, 2022 at 10:46 am Mortgage insurance is typically a percentage of the loan amount, so it makes sense that the amount went up as the amount of the loan did, though 3x is a large difference without a rate change. However, the rate may have changed if the additional cost lowered your down payment percentage significantly.
Llellayena* April 16, 2022 at 12:22 pm Down payment has never changed. She verbally told me around $22/mo for mortgage insurance and now it’s listed at $68/mo.
acmx* April 16, 2022 at 1:00 pm Well, you did increase your offer so is your down payment now smaller? I think if the down payment is now even lesser than 20% mortgage insurance will increase (not sure, never had to pay it).
Can't think of a funny name* April 16, 2022 at 1:03 pm Correct…PMI is based on the loan amount so if the loan amount went up, the PMI will go up (as you said :) ).
Llellayena* April 16, 2022 at 1:58 pm The numbers she gave me were for AFTER I raised the offer. It was part of what convinced me I could afford to raise the offer.
Can't think of a funny name* April 16, 2022 at 1:01 pm Buying down the rate can be a good idea if you plan to stay in the house long enough…you would have to figure out exactly how long that would be but it’s roughly 5-7 years…so if you are planning to move in less than 5 years then probably not worth it, if you are planning to stay longer term, probably is worth it. But you also have to factor in that you will be paying PMI long than if you took that rate buydown money and put it towards the down payment instead.
Llellayena* April 16, 2022 at 2:23 pm I’ve got a 3% down payment, adding the buy down money to that won’t dent the mortgage insurance. I’m definitely there for at least 5 years due to a first time homebuyers program with a forgivable loan. I’d have to pay it back if I left before 5yrs.
Wombats and Tequila* April 16, 2022 at 3:57 pm I don’t know if you can shop around for the mortgage insurance, but you should certainly do so for your home insurance. Also, you haven’t closed yet. Use that to your advantage. You don’t want to back out, but they don’t want you to back out, either.
Cedrus Libani* April 16, 2022 at 6:16 pm Was there confusion about whether the property is officially a townhouse? I know our lender had a bunch of different rules for different kinds of property, including changes to the minimum down payment needed to avoid mortgage insurance. Alas, I’m not an expert, just a first-time homebuyer currently under contract. For what it’s worth, I’m not going to buy points. If I have to sell early, it’s likely because of an unexpected hit to my finances; in that scenario, I’d also be losing whatever I spent on points, making a bad situation worse. Also, money that I haven’t paid the bank yet is available for investments, and mortgage rates are still low enough that it’s reasonable to “rent” money from the bank this way. (That is, I chose to minimize up-front payments – I’m betting that I can invest that money and make more than I’m paying the bank in extra interest. That’s indeed a gamble, and your risk tolerance may vary.) Be aware that tax deduction math could make a difference (I’m assuming you’re in the US, no idea how it works elsewhere).
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 9:08 am I will say that someone when I bought my first house, and when I later refinanced, “somehow” everything ended up more than what people said every time, so I think that is kind of the way it goes unfortunately. What was on the estimated documents went up slightly, but what was said on the phone – forget it, that was always several hundred dollars more. The mortgage guys kind of lie to your face (one promised me a credit that never materialized) and the real estate agent gets a cut of your price so they have perverse incentives (I kept arguing with mine to make lower bids and she would always want to walk them up. This was back when houses were sitting on the market – why??). I would say tune everybody out, or get a good friend with no skin in the game, and just look at the numbers yourself and ask if you can afford it. You’re not going to find any great deals right now and if you want a house it may be this is your option, but don’t bankrupt yourself or have nothing left to pay for inevitable repairs, moving expenses, etc.
Anonymous Cat* April 16, 2022 at 9:53 am How do you deal with big regrets? Like life-changing regrets? I keep telling myself that I don’t really KNOW that the other path would have been better but I can’t really convince myself. I’m really unhappy and it’s not possible to change it. How do you handle it or what do you tell yourself over and over? (If Not So New Reader is here, can you chime in with advice from you or your wise friend? You usually have wise practical advice though I’ll listen to any suggestions! :). )
Not A Manager* April 16, 2022 at 10:18 am That’s a tough situation to be in. I wonder if the crux of the issue is “I’m really unhappy and it’s not possible to change it.” You can’t go back and take the other path, but if you can see a way to be happier in your future – given the path you took – then the regrets might feel less acute. When you say “it’s not possible to change it,” I’m not sure if you mean the path not taken (which is true, you can’t change that), or if you mean “it’s not possible to change being unhappy now.” Of course you know your own situation, but it’s unusual to be in a situation where there is *no* chance at all of making *any* positive changes for the future. For me, when I feel crippling regret about past choices which led to current unhappiness, it tends to sting me into action. My question is “what can I do now to make things better later?” I know this can be easier said than done, but I don’t think that it will be easy to let go of this regret until you have some sense that you can be happy* now or in your attainable future. *Happy is a loaded word, and I don’t mean maximally happy, or as happy as you would have been in some other world, I mean “happy enough given the life you have.” That sounds a bit defeatist, maybe, but I’ve gone a long way myself learning to be “happy enough.”
Anonymous cat* April 16, 2022 at 10:59 am You’re right that the bigger problem here is that I’m unhappy. I think if I were happier, I wouldn’t think much about the other path. (By “can’t change it” I meant there is no way to undo/redo the choice. Like if I moved from city A to city B, didn’t like it, and moved back to city A. I can’t “move back to city A.”) I feel like I’ve been making do with small bits of happiness for a long time and that I missed my chance to make that better. So I was hoping people might have some wisdom to share on how to deal with this or how to “talk back” to these regrets.
CatCat* April 16, 2022 at 10:26 am When I have thoughts along these lines, I like to think of the people I’ve met and care about in my life since then. Like, “if I hadn’t made choice X, I probably wouldn’t have met Lucy, and I’m so happy to know her because she makes me laugh.” I even enter pets or activities into the equation. Like: “If I hadn’t made choice Y, my life wouldn’t have been aligned in such a way to meet Fluffy at the shelter the day I did and she brings me so much joy, I can’t imagine being without her.” and “If I had moved to BigCityFarAway instead of staying in SmallCity, I’d have missed out on Activity and that Activity is such a great memory for me.”
Can't think of a funny name* April 16, 2022 at 10:39 am I tell myself that I made the best decision that I could at the time with the information that I had. And even if I think something was a “mistake,” I try to view it as a learning opportunity.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 16, 2022 at 5:36 pm Yes, like Marie Kondo- she says when you are getting rid of, for instance, a shirt that you spent a lot of money to buy but never wore, use the chance to understand why you didn’t actually wear it- now you can avoid that kind of fabric/color/closure in the future when you buy clothes. Then you can say ‘thank you for teaching me’ and let it go. You may not have gotten a useful piece of clothing, but you learned something about what matters to you. I know a shirt is much smaller than what you’re talking about, but this technique has helped me a lot to let go of my ‘sunk costs.’
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 10:58 am Losing that other path is a loss, like a death. You need to grieve before you can move on. Don’t try to talk yourself out of being sad, or try to convince yourself of anything. The cognitive dissonance keeps you stuck. Get some support for the life change, so you talk the feelings out and move through the sadness, anger, etc. Eventually you get to acceptance, and then you are free to invest fully in your new reality and make it good. You can’t circumvent the grief process. It’s like a tunnel- the only way out is through.
Shiny* April 16, 2022 at 12:04 pm Oh, I feel for you. This was me for a long time. Something major happened in my life and cut off the path I had been pursuing for many years. I still grieve it sometimes. Honestly, what helped me most was time. I still look back wistfully, but that alternative life is gone. I have also done a lot of make me happy in the here and now. The career and life I thought were waiting for me will never happen, but I’ve built a different one. It’s not perfect, but it’s mine, and it’s enough, and I did it all after coming through some really, really dark times. The other part has been trying to be kind to myself, instead of dwelling on my failures (not saying this is how you conceptualize things, but it was very true for me). I told myself, and I still do, that I did my best, I’m doing my best, and that’s all I can ask of myself. But really and truly? Time does heal so much.
Anonymous Cat* April 16, 2022 at 12:58 pm Thank you everyone! I’m listening! Another thing I’m having such trouble with is living with the consequences of my choice. My therapist told me not to judge myself harshly and be kinder, but it’s not me being judgmental—it’s me trying to live with the practical consequences. I try not to think about it and to make better choices but I’m having such a hard time. I know part of this is just life but ….
anonagain* April 16, 2022 at 5:52 pm This might not apply depending on the situation but are there things you can do to start addressing the practical consequences of your choice? I picked a job in the wrong city. It’s been pretty rough. It has helped me to rework my budget and sign up for city driving classes. I’ve also made a list of meet ups that I’ll probably never actually go to, but whose existence reminds me that I’m a hermit by choice. These things haven’t solved the problem. It still sucks. But they’ve been tiny things that tell my brain I’m doing my best. I can tread water until the next opportunity for me to make a better choice. Again, that might be totally unhelpful for your situation. If so, ignore me! Either way, it’s a difficult spot to be in. I hope things get better for you.
Generic Name* April 16, 2022 at 1:10 pm Living with regret is so painful. I encourage you to re-examine your belief that your unhappiness is unchangeable. When I was regretting choices I made a long time ago, I would think about the late Maya Angelou’s words, “When you know better, you do better” as a way to have compassion for my younger self and the choices she made. I didn’t know any better back then, but I do now. You can only move forward.
30ish* April 16, 2022 at 1:41 pm If you are very focused on regrets, that can be a sign of depression. Especially if you ruminate and blame yourself.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 2:41 pm I acknowledge the pain, and try to accept what I’ve learned, and look more towards the future than the past. It’s so hard sometimes. But looking towards the future, and positive things that I can do (instead of focusing on the past, which I can’t change, no matter how much I would like to) helps. Also, therapy.
Not So NewReader* April 16, 2022 at 2:44 pm I totally agree with what people have already said here and I have actually practiced these things myself. My wise friend would say, “Time.” As in it takes time to build a new path, once on the new path you might end up thinking, “What in the world did I want Old Path for????”. And it can turn out that what you really have is better than some dream or lofty goal, for the simple reason what you have is actually YOURS. You can start to realize the Old Path was not yours yet, it was a dream/goal. It wasn’t real. I wanted a big huge Victorian house. I ended up with an almost 200 y/o school house. Schoolhouses were cobbled together out of what ever the community had on hand. And my place reflects that. I love big rambling houses and I always will. But I have a house that *I* can actually take care of. It doesn’t leave me dog-tired and financially destitute like some big Victorian house would have done. It takes time to figure all this out and to actually see that we did not get what we wanted, we got something better: We got what we need. I am 200% grateful. It took time to see that I had what I needed. It also takes time to take back our power. A loss of any sort can leave us feeling powerless and worse yet it can leave us feel rudderless. So we have no rudder (nothing to steer our lives with) and our power/autonomy seems to have flown the coup. This is a really bad mix, as it can leave us pretty gutted. If this resonates, perhaps counseling or life coaching is for you. Rebuilding a life plan can feel like starting all over. Don’t make yourself walk alone. Find people who you respect and talk with them. This is not a time to be proud, frugal or whatever other reason people have for not reaching out. Keep reaching out. When my husband passed, I woke up one morning and said. “hmmm…. I can do anything I want with my life… I have no one dependent on me.” Then it sunk in…”OMG!!! I can do anything I want with my life!” I was reduced to something like a 5 year old who wanted guidance over the simplest things- I felt so very overwhelmed. My husband helped to steer my life, I had to factor in his wants and needs and I had to work with him. All of the sudden it was just me. I had been two people for almost 30 years. My wise friend at one point talked about the importance of doing the obvious things that are right in front of us. As those things are completed, more of life will be revealed to us. But first we must take care of the immediate needs. There’s a long winded explanation- but this post is long enough. Suffice it to say, baby steps and one thing builds on the previous thing. Start by keeping you healthy and keeping your belongings safe and secure. Start there. Indeed one thing did build on another thing. Let’s string this together. I never would have met my wise friend if I had not gotten so sick. I missed a lot of life in those years.(regrets, grief, anger) I started feeling better and doing more- for example, I got my degree, my house, my dog, etc. Then hubby got sick. I pulled from all that I had learned from my own problems to help him. My wise friend’s advice popped up in my thinking over and over. What if I had never met this wise person? After my husband passed, I took my wise friend’s advice from so long ago and did the things that obviously needed to be taken care of. (This was hard because I did not give a crap about anything. I had to convince myself that at some point in the future I would be “mad at myself” if I did not take proper care of things now. This goes back to good self-care and taking care of your surroundings and belongings.) It took a bit to take back my power, it took a bit to find how to steer my life. And I am still working on that. I had to let other people help me, I had to listen to well-thought out advice, I had to start buying clothes at consignment shops [shrugs]. In other words, every part of my life changed. And an odd thing happened. I am content with how it all landed. And in some ways I am better off than I have ever been. I am not sure I would have found contentment if I remained on the path I had planned for myself. I would not have the friends and activities I have now for sure. (I have one more year to go on the mortgage for the old school house.smh) To me, contentment is higher than happiness. Happiness is fleeting- like “Oh here’s a birthday present for you!!” You unwrap it and then, the moment is over. Contentment is more like quiet reassurance- it carries us through the thick and the thin. It doesn’t go away, it doesn’t fade, it doesn’t rollercoaster unlike happiness which can rollercoaster. My wise friend used to talk about rollercoastering. My friend said, “Whenever you go high, you can plan that you will go low in the near future. The trick is to smooth everything out so the highs are not so high and then the lows will not be so low.” Watch the highs in life, my wise friend said. Punchline: The big hits (injuries/saddnesses/griefs) in life require a multi-prong attack to counter-act how much damage that hit has done in our lives. Take care of the basics in your life. Make sure you have a solid foundation to work from. Then move to trying small and well considered changes. Go one at a time so you can see if it is working or not. In all likelihood, I think you will go a long ways before something hits you this hard again, if ever. There’s lots of reasons for this. Keep going, work it through as best you can and one day at a time.
Anonymous cat* April 16, 2022 at 9:08 pm Hi! I appreciate you writing such a long response! And including your wise friend! The thing is–it’s not so much a loss as I made a decision and life went downhill after that. I did think it was the right decision at the time but life got bad and I don’t see a way to fix it. I’m trying to do little things to make my life better and take care of myself but it’s such a slog and the regrets keep pounding in my head. I’ll reread all the comments for inspiration!
Aealias* April 16, 2022 at 11:10 pm I hear you. The decision seemed good, and then not only was it bad, but the bad reverberated…. I made a bad choice in early adulthood – bad enough that I actively warn people away from it when I see them in similar circumstances. It LOOKED good, but it knocked my career plan off the rails and into a ditch, solidly abandoned. It took me a long time to forgive that mistake. I’ll be living with the consequences for pretty much the rest of my life – it affects my retirement savings, when I can retire, where I am in my job progression now, where I live… But with time, I came to value the path I landed on POST-mistake. Without the mistake, I would have made different friends, married someone different (if I’d married at all), quite possibly exploded my career in a whole different way, and definitely have missed out on some formative experiences that taught me about my strengths, weaknesses, and true wants. I think you have to work through the consequences without kicking yourself over them. When you can dig yourself out of active unhappiness, you can start to work towards finding your next path, and the parts of your life you’ll eventually value more than the hypotheticals you regret.
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 9:10 am Right. Forget the choices that led you here, that’s just what my shrink called “ruminating” – focus on trying to improve your current situation in anyways that work, big or small.
bibliovore* April 17, 2022 at 8:36 am Thank you for sharing. Mr. Bibliovore was the happiest person I knew. He didn’t regret the past. His motto was “seemed like a good idea at the time” I’ve tried to remember that. I too lived in an old school house although not at all like yours. I will put the real estate link in comments. The “what if’s” can take me down. I try to direct my thoughts to today rather than the past.
bibliovore* April 17, 2022 at 8:47 am https://www.brownstoner.com/neighborhood/brooklyn-heights/building-of-the-day-65-67-middagh-street-brooklyns-first-public-school/
Not So NewReader* April 17, 2022 at 2:42 pm Nice! They redid an old “high school” a couple of towns over- they turned in it into lovely apartments. They kept up the facade and it looks nice from the street also. I love it when people do stuff like that. My house was a one room school house. But it had “good bones”. Things could be added here and there and make it kinda cute. I saw that the very first time I met the place…. and some day maybe I will make it look kinda cute. lol.
small town* April 16, 2022 at 3:15 pm your might want to read Dear Sugar “the Ghost Ship”-much wisdom there
just another bureaucrat* April 16, 2022 at 4:05 pm I really don’t think this is doctor recommended….but it’s the way I get myself through pretty quickly. Focus on all the possible negatives of the other path. Tell yourself a horror story about it. Then tell it again. Then again. then again. You would have been miserable. You would have been fired. You would have been hurt. You might have been run over. If I’m going to ruminate, rumination is going to pay the bills to keep the lights on. It doesn’t actually have to be that bad. But just like, “If I’d picked that school I would have felt uncomfortable because there were so many insanely wealthy kids and I would have absolutely been a “scholarship kid” and I would have been looked down on and I would have had more debt and I would have not had a support network nearby.” There is an alternative story that would be “If I’d picked that school I could have made more connections and gotten a better job out of school and had a pedigree” so then I (rightfully so I think) point out to myself “Going to that school would not have magically made you able to socialize with a class you can’t even fathom, it would not have made you able to schmooze, it would not have made you pretty or popular, you would still be you, and you works hard and does good stuff, but you is not schmoozy and doesn’t want to be schmoozy so knock it off.” Part of it for me is recognizing that regret is not a logical thing, so fighting it with logic isn’t the right weapon. You have to weaponize something else against it. I struggle to weaponize joy (or have it). And I’ve never managed to weaponize comfort (which I do have and is what I look for when appropriate). But I can weaponize the snot out of a lot of other things.
Qwerty* April 16, 2022 at 5:49 pm Is this a “grass is greener” scenario or “I screwed up” I’m guessing at the time you made the decision, it seemed like the best possible choice. Or maybe you were torn and couldn’t make up your mind. When dealing with crappy stuff from my past, I remind myself that I like who I am today (or at least aspects of me!) and that I’d be different if I hadn’t gone through my history. Without knowing details of your situation, I feel a little like I’m throwing vague stuff at you. One tip is – do you own that decision that you make as yours? Are you afraid of making mistakes in general? I’ve had a few points in my life where I thought “this is a giant mistake but I know I’ll regret not doing it more”. What are you unhappy about? Is it that the path you chose wasn’t the solution to pre-existing problems? Did it not turn out to be as nice as it could have been? Can we maybe just tweak the situation to figure out how to improve things a bit? Also, can you blame the pandemic at all for either the choice not fitting or for your current unhappiness? I feel like everyone’s world got turned upside down in the past few years so NOTHING went as planned. Sorry for being rambly – really want to help but need more details to tailor this to you.
Anonymous cat* April 16, 2022 at 9:11 pm Kind of a mix between “I should have been braver” and “I screwed up”. I don’t want to give too many details because I know some coworkers read this column, but I think the biggest sources of unhappiness right now are depression and loneliness. >>Is it that the path you chose wasn’t the solution to pre-existing problems? Did it not turn out to be as nice as it could have been? More that I didn’t act when I could have and now I think my life would have been better. Less lonely and more fulfilled. >>Can we maybe just tweak the situation to figure out how to improve things a bit? I’m trying to rebuild a social life but it’s slow going. >>Also, can you blame the pandemic at all for either the choice not fitting or for your current unhappiness? I feel like everyone’s world got turned upside down in the past few years so NOTHING went as planned. Yes, we can blame covid for some of this! I’ve been mostly alone and WFH for two years now which make the depression and loneliness even greater. The world is opening up again but I’m finding it a challenge.
Cedrus Libani* April 16, 2022 at 7:59 pm There’s a column from Dear Sugar that lives rent-free in my head. Here’s the last paragraph: “I’ll never know and neither will you of the life you don’t choose. We’ll only know that whatever that sister life was, it was important and beautiful and not ours. It was the ghost ship that didn’t carry us. There’s nothing to do but salute it from the shore.” Yeah, I’ve got some of those too. Lives that were beautiful, important, and not mine. There’s another story that’s stuck with me. The student looks at the syllabus in dismay. So many books! So he asks the teacher: “Sir, is all of this required reading?” The teacher gives the student a withering glare, and replies: “The only thing you are *required* to do is to come when the Good Lord calls you. Passing my course is optional.” It’s true. Death is mandatory. All else is a choice. When the mugger puts a gun to your head and asks you to choose between your money and your life, you may not like your choices, but they do exist. When change is so hard and uncertain and scary that you’d prefer to stay where you are and be miserable, that’s a choice too. If you’ve chosen badly in the past, you can choose to learn from it. So long as you’re alive, you have agency, and you can use it to make the best of whatever choices you’ve got.
Janet Pinkerton* April 17, 2022 at 8:25 am I’ve read your responses below as well. I think you nailed it by citing depression. Are you sure your therapist is the right match? Are you on meds and are they helping? (Loved my therapist, love my meds.) The only regret that’s 100% un-undoable is having a kid or major injury. You can’t just give up a kid, and there are plenty of parents who quietly regret having kids. And you can’t un-injure yourself, though sometimes you can heal. It sounds like this decision didn’t singlehandedly make your life worse, but rather has been a good scapegoat. I would find that a comfort, I think? Since we don’t have time machines anyway. Doing the work to rebuild a social life sounds like a great start! And I suspect there might be opportunity to be brave still and make some changes. It might have been easier before, but it might still be doable now.
HannahS* April 17, 2022 at 12:09 pm 1. We always imagine that the path not taken would have proceeded as planned; we’re often comparing reality to fantasy, not reality to reality. 2. If you’re unhappy, that’s the problem. Not that you didn’t do XYZ in the past, but that you’re unhappy NOW. It’s not very helpful to think, “I wouldn’t be so lonely if only I had done XYZ,” but it can be helpful to think, “I’m very lonely, what can I do to be less lonely?”
HannahS* April 17, 2022 at 12:13 pm Oh, also, sometimes I tell myself that regret is a part of life; it’s an inevitable consequence of having imagination :) Everyone–literally everyone–dreams about more than they can accomplish in their life. Imagination is part of what make our species different from other animals. Regret isn’t always a sign that something has gone wrong, but just that we are able to imagine many possibilities.
Decidedly Me* April 17, 2022 at 1:01 pm Lots of good advice here already, so this may be a silly suggestion, but I just finished a book (fiction, not self help) that addresses this topic and I found it helpful for my own feelings. It’s The Midnight Library by Matt Haig.
bibliovore* April 16, 2022 at 9:57 am Bathroom renovation! Its been a roller coaster ride. Neither of the tubs worked out. Sigh. But found this one. Omnitub extra. Question lighting- The designer suggests two sconces at the sink and a recessed light in shower and above the tub. I am concerned that won’t be enough light. Your thoughts or links to suggested lighting solutions that you love please.
Dwight Schrute* April 16, 2022 at 10:02 am How big is the space? In a smaller bathroom I think that would be plenty, especially depending on the bulbs you go with
Fit Farmer* April 16, 2022 at 10:48 am Taking the technical route, personally I would go into similarly-sized bathrooms and look at how much light they have. Not just the fixtures, but how many lumens are coming out of the bulbs. Of course you want the right “amount” of light in each area depending on its use (sink, in-shower, etc), not just a total for the space, but that might give a sense of whether the designer’s suggestion is in the right ballpark.
mreasy* April 16, 2022 at 11:08 am I love a bright bathroom and would want vanity lighting around the mirror at least.
Anono-me* April 16, 2022 at 11:09 am I suggest an overhead light/ venting fan/heater combo with a timer and multiple settings. You probably need the venting fan and want the heater so why not get one system that does all three? Many nice vent fan/heater combos are available with a light as well. If you get the three part combo rather than a two part combo ; you have the additional lighting if it turns out you are right (and without sacrificing much of the design aesthetic.) We have a poorly lit bathroom and it is irritating, so I think having an additional light on its own switch would be nice.
Not So NewReader* April 16, 2022 at 3:05 pm I agree with you that is not enough lighting. The reason being often times our bathrooms become a place where we do health/medical stuff. Is there enough light to see that splinter in your finger and remove said splinter? What about taking care of a wound? Will you be able to see it well enough to treat a wound satisfactorily? My friend had surgery. He wanted help with changing the bandage on his back. He wanted me to look closely at the wound to see if I saw a problem. (I do not mind doing this.) My bathroom is so poorly lighted I almost had to shine flashlight to see the wound clearly. I also have aging eyes. Light that was okay at 30 yrs old is a little darker now at 60. I did redo the lighting in my bedroom. And I did use sconces. I was skeptical about the sconces but I did not want another ceiling light that 80 y/o me would not be able to replace a burned out light bulb for. So, sconces. Happily I found sconces that took 100 watt bulbs. I have 75 watt bulbs in there now because that suits my needs atm. I can put brighter bulbs in later if need be. Because the ceiling is white, the light reflects off the ceiling and fills the room enough for me to clean it well. Whatever fixture you end up with, don’t skimp on wattage. You can chose to put a smaller (wattage) bulb in for the time being and if the room starts feel darker, you can get the proper bulbs in place. You can also consider putting in one or two more sconces than what the contractor initially recommends.
Southern Girl* April 17, 2022 at 9:42 am We did major bathroom remodel of both bathrooms 3 years ago. Agree that is not nearly enough light. We have fixtures above the large mirror that hold 4 bulbs each (total of 8 bulbs) but on a dimmer switch if you want less brightness at night. Also recessed lights above the tub and shower. And in the small bathroom, sconce lights by mirror plus 2 recessed LED lights in the ceiling. We rarely use those recessed lights but they are there if needed.
Lucy* April 16, 2022 at 10:11 am Anyone know of any low-maintenance flowering plants (or even just pretty green plants) that animals usually leave alone? I’ve always had problems with both annual and perennial flowers in the garden areas along all four sides of my house getting getting eaten by animals (sometimes they just eat the buds/flowers, sometimes they eat the entire plant). I’ve tried animal deterrents (garlic sticks, invisible fence, sprays, etc.) and don’t want to deal with them anymore since they don’t work for me. Overall, I just want a lower maintenance garden because I don’t have the energy/time for a lot of gardening work anymore. Does anyone have any suggestions? Right now I’m thinking a few more geraniums (I have three right now, and they only get eaten a little bit…because they’re more like bushes I guess?). Thank you!
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 11:00 am Do you know what the animals are? Different plants are tasty or repellent to different critters.
Sunshine* April 16, 2022 at 11:20 am I’ve had good luck with lavender. Deer avoid it. It’s pretty in bloom. It’s easy. And if you buy certain varieties you can have decorative or culinary use
Girasol* April 16, 2022 at 12:09 pm If you do annuals, marigolds’ fragrance repels some critters, and zinnias are tough and stringy, so they might be somewhat less tempting than tenderer plants. Around here it’s the latest thing to plant a two foot strip of zinnias around a farm field to attract insects away from the crop. The job doesn’t seem to bother the flowers at all. They look so boisterously colorful.
Generic Name* April 16, 2022 at 1:07 pm If you’re located in the west, High Country Gardens is a mail order nursery. They note if their plants are deer or rabbit resistant. They specialize in plants for dry climates.
Chaordic One* April 16, 2022 at 4:29 pm Maybe ask for some advice from your local County Extension Office?
Pam* April 16, 2022 at 6:42 pm Geraniums are good- tough, lots of colors, easy to grow from cuttings.
Cedrus Libani* April 16, 2022 at 6:49 pm Maybe go for a wander around your neighborhood and see what’s thriving? Bonus points if it’s thriving in a yard that doesn’t look well maintained. If you don’t recognize the plant, take some pictures; there are apps that will identify the plant for you.
Radical Edward* April 16, 2022 at 7:28 pm Coneflowers, butterfly weed (the short stuff with orange blossoms, not the gigantic leggy milkweed) and forsythia shrubs fare really well where I am. They’re tough, although honestly I haven’t seen rabbits, deer, or other critters try to eat them at all in our garden, and we have everything from caterpillars to voles to black bears. Coneflowers reseed pretty successfully too, so I’ve never had to replant them once they’re established in a particular spot. Bonus: lots of butterflies and goldfinches! I’m not sure if you’ve already struck out with these, but peonies, Lenten Roses, or dahlias might work too – if you like showy blossoms there are types that can be minimal/zero effort for maximum reward. I’m not familiar with varietal names though unfortunately.
ShinyPenny* April 17, 2022 at 1:37 am In my yard (wild rabbit population reaching a million, I’m guessing) every bluebell has been half-eaten, and the hardy geraniums (aka cranesbill) are always mowed to sad nubs, but the columbines are untouched. Hydrangeas, ferns, bleeding heart (both native and commercial), ajuga, and daffodils are also untouched. I, too, am at the “sink or swim, plants!” stage.
Chauncy Gardener* April 17, 2022 at 11:02 am Depends upon your geography, but I have found the following, in no particular order, to be deer proof (and I have actual herds around me. I swear they’re partially domesticated at this point!): Peonies (herbaceous, hybrid and tree types) Daffodils Alliums Camassia Iris (bearded and siberian) Andromeda Viburnum Rhododendrons (usually) Globe thistle Sea thistle Clematis Potentilla (the shrub kind) High bush blueberries Lilacs Hellebores Bluebells Bloodroot Sage (the herb) Salvia Chrysanthemum Shasta daisy Black eyed Susans Liatris Lambs ear Veronica Witch hazel Phlox Sweet woodruff Trillium Bleeding heart Columbine Rhubarb They absolutely MOW my hostas and daylilies, but I have found that Plantskydd spray really makes a huge difference. But it smells super gross when you first spray it. Good luck!!
Very anonymous* April 16, 2022 at 10:32 am Don’t know what I’m looking for here, really. Commiserations maybe? Similar stories and how you deal with it, I guess. My relationship with my mom is very, very difficult. She’s… getting more aggressive as she gets older and I think that she has dementia, or is developing it, but she isn’t diagnosed. However, it’s always been a passive aggressive relationship, it’s just more noticeable now. She says very hurtful things, which – at the age of 48! – I’ve only really started to notice. Everyone says how lovely she is, but she isn’t with me. She’s critical, and sometimes downright nasty. I think she might be jealous of me? And I just don’t know why! She’s never wanted me to be my own person and she’s very, very controlling. Until recently I’ve let her, but starting to set boundaries when you’re in your 40s is just super tough. I limit my time with her to once a week, for about an hour. And I don’t want to go no contact. I’ve had therapy many times over the years, which has been helpful, and I will certainly be going again when I can afford it. I’m hurt and sad and angry that I feel like I’ve wasted my youth on this person, when I could have been doing things for myself. I’ve never married and I’ve never had kids – long and complicated story, but I attribute it in large part to not allowing myself to get close to people, especially men, because of my mom (I’m a heterosexual woman). Obviously I’m missing loads out of the story! So…yeah, commiserations and similar stories I guess? Happy endings too! How’d you learn to love and reparent yourself?
L. Ron Jeremy* April 16, 2022 at 11:09 am You need to get a copy of a book by Peg Sreep ‘Dughter Detox’ and the workbook. My wife had similar difficulties with her mother and this book helped her to live an independent life and still be around her controlling mother.
Very anonymous* April 17, 2022 at 7:12 am Thank you, it’s not a coincidence that it was mentioned twice!
MissGirl* April 16, 2022 at 11:31 am I am so sorry. Similar situation with my dad except his dementia actually softened him and it was easier to be around him. It helped me to have a therapist to balance my needs with wanting to be there for him. It’s so helpful to recognize the pattern. I reminded myself that boundary-less people need clear boundaries.
Potatoes gonna potate* April 16, 2022 at 11:38 am oh I am so sorry you’re going through this. Lots of similar stories here as well. Feel like I wasted my youth on her as well and constantly trying to work through the damage inflicted from childhood.
Very anonymous* April 17, 2022 at 7:39 am Thank you. Realising the extent of the damage is just mind blowing. Part of me thinks how did it take so long to notice somethings so obvious?, but the other part of me realises that it was my way of coping with it.
TheDisenchantedForest* April 16, 2022 at 2:33 pm Relationships, especially with family, can be very difficult and emotionally draining. Speaking from similar experience with family members, my advice is simply this: you have to do what’s best for you and your happiness and emotional well-being. I recommend reflecting on how these interactions make you feel, as well as to how much of a relationship you are comfortable having with your mother. It is ok to decide that you want to have a less close (or no) relationship with her. Family is not a reason to be treated in a way that makes you feel upset/angry/unworthy, etc. It can be very empowering to know that you get to decide what relationship you want to have, you get to decide how and when to engage with her (phone, text, in person, etc), and you get to decide when to walk away if you no longer want to be exposed to her negativity. It may take some time, and some trial and error to figure out what works best for you, but setting boundaries (and holding to them when she pushes back or makes you feel guiltily) is so important in creating that safe space for yourself. It is ok to feel bad about setting boundaries and withdrawing from the relationship. That is totally normal. But you have got to do what is best for you, even if that means distancing yourself from or removing negative people (even family) from your life. It’s a tough and frustrating position to be in, when you feel like you’re not getting what you need from those in your life. But you get to decide where you go from here. And that is a good thing.
Very anonymous* April 17, 2022 at 7:42 am Thank you so much for your kind comment. You’re right. Working out what is good for my health is the first step and that is tricky, as I am not always sure. But as you say, it’ll be trial and error.
small town* April 16, 2022 at 3:17 pm The Captain Awkward archives have great stuff on this. She is very wise.
Very anonymous* April 17, 2022 at 7:44 am Thank you! I don’t really gel with her style, but she is very clear cut and direct, and I know that she is helpful for lots of people. Even though I didn’t use her scripts, that blog helped me see my way to ending a friendship that wasn’t good for me. Funnily enough (or maybe not) I’d been trying to be friends with someone who was like my mom, for YEARS! Wondering why it wasn’t working out.
Not So NewReader* April 16, 2022 at 3:22 pm I read a few mother-daughter relationship books. The punchline was very similar. Be your own good mother to yourself. Procure yourself, what you need to take care of you, each and every time. This means basics such as food/medical but it also means other things pets-trips-education and so on. You have all your eggs in one basket and the basket is not happy with you. I suspect no matter how much more of your life you give up for her, she will remain unhappy with you. Before I could love me, I had to find me. That meant I had to get out from under my mother’s shadow. I had conformed to her so much that I had no idea who *i* was. I was 19-20 when I decided to make a change in life. I was scared crapless. I had been so use to my mother’s crazy-making ways and I really did not know much about how the real world worked. I used to say that healthy people were bewildering to me. There’s a lot of videos on YouTube about Narc parents. I don’t think you need a diagnosis on the parent to find the advice still useful and applicable.
Very anonymous* April 17, 2022 at 7:48 am You have all your eggs in one basket and the basket is not happy with you. I suspect no matter how much more of your life you give up for her, she will remain unhappy with you. Ooof. That is…the painful truth. Thank you. I remember watching videos by Merdith Miller on YouTube thinking ‘oh this doesn’t apply to me as my mom is not narcissistic’, but they were helpful and you’ve reminded me to go back and look at them again.
Very anonymous* April 17, 2022 at 7:57 am I guess that the behaviours are the same as for an enmeshed person, which is why I related to them so much.
Not So NewReader* April 17, 2022 at 2:50 pm One surprise I got in this whole story line was once I branched out and started including others in my life more, I found older women (neighbors/family) who took a motherly interest in me without being smotherly. I had one aunt who lost her husband just two years before I did. We walked each other through that process but in different ways. I remember thinking to myself in some ways she helped me more than a mother type person could have helped. I think one reason is the slight distance in the family relationship , aunt-to-niece as opposed to mother-to-daughter. Sadly we have to back off of OR let go of the intense thing, to let other good and healthy relationships get into our lives.
Ali G* April 16, 2022 at 8:44 pm My mom has always been dispropotinaitely controlling of my life, because of a lot of reasons I won’t go into, she expected me to live (read: validate) her life choices. When I didn’t (also no kids amongst other things), she doubled down and I had to put her on an information diet. It helps we don’t live near each other. Bottom line is you don’t need to know why she does what she does, you just need to figure out how to manage her in a way that works for you. That could mean you do fun things together but don’t get into more in depth conversations, or it could mean that you meet once a month for breakfast. Whatever works for you.
Very anonymous* April 17, 2022 at 7:50 am Thank you. I guess the thing is to emotionally deal with the hurt of having just a superficial relationship with her. Information diet…so true! I need to do this more.
MEH Squared* April 17, 2022 at 1:13 am I feel your pain and am very sorry you have to experience this. Recently, I went through a life-threatening medical trauma that really brought home how dysfunctional my parents were. Each a narcissist in their own way and enmeshed in a very codependent relationship. I had been detaching from them in the last five years with the aid of Taiji (tai chi) and therapy (not currently) when my medical trauma hit. The way they reacted reinforced to me that they loved the idea of their child, but not me in particular. (They don’t know me at all and what they do know, they don’t particularly like.) Now, I just keep it as superficial as possible. I figuratively nod and smile when they say something outrageous and move it along. It helps that they live halfway around the world and we only talk every few weeks or so. I had to realize that it would never get better. I’m 51 and they are not going to change. The upside of the medical trauma? I lost all my self-loathing , especially for my body, which got me through some really dark days. I am secure in my sense of self, which more than makes up for the knowledge that my parents are a lost cause. I wish you the best and hope that you can find some peace.
Very anonymous* April 17, 2022 at 7:55 am Thank you so much for your comment and I am sorry to hear about your trauma. However, I am glad that what came out of it was a strong sense of self and self-esteem. Your story has really hit home, especially this: Each a narcissist in their own way and enmeshed in a very codependent relationship…The way they reacted reinforced to me that they loved the idea of their child, but not me in particular. (They don’t know me at all and what they do know, they don’t particularly like.) I identify so much with this. Thank you. I wish you the best.
Anony* April 17, 2022 at 10:18 am Are we long lost sisters? This describes my mother to a T. Interestingly, things got a lot better for both of us when I started to set boundaries and we both enjoy our relationship now more.
mreasy* April 17, 2022 at 12:10 pm I would also like to recommend Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents. Huge help to me, a classic for a reason. (TY to other commenters, I will also check out Daughter Detox.)
Hannah* April 17, 2022 at 3:12 pm Scrolled through looking for this comment—I second this series! (There are 3; all wonderful!) For me, these books have been life changing!
Very anonymous* April 17, 2022 at 6:25 pm Oh I have this book! I actually saw it recommended here in a thread once. Yes it’s very helpful.
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 10:33 am I want whiter teeth. My same age friends still have white teeth and when we smile in photos they look great and my teeth look so dingy you can barely see them. I’m 50 and a coffee drinker. Does anything work or is this it?
Princess Deviant* April 16, 2022 at 10:38 am I get mine cleaned at the hygienist, and I also use bicarb of soda toothpaste, which does help. But sometimes teeth are just… not white, master what you do.
mreasy* April 16, 2022 at 11:10 am Yeah, lifelong coffee drinker here, too. If you don’t have sensitive teeth there are OTC options you can try in addition to dental whitening, but they will weaken your enamel and make your teeth more sensitive. My dentist has told me pretty plainly that because of sensitive teeth I would be in for a lot of discomfort.
Wildcat* April 16, 2022 at 11:15 am I used Crest Whitestrips after I got my vraces off and they worked well. Those charcoal whiteners were trendy a bit back but avoid those as they can damage your enamel. Follow up any whitening with fluoride.
Generic Name* April 16, 2022 at 1:16 pm I had noticeably yellow teeth when I was younger and I used crest white strips and whitening toothpaste. I haven’t felt the need to whiten them in about ten years or so, so the results have been quite lasting. You can also get your teeth whitened at the dentist.
PollyQ* April 16, 2022 at 3:07 pm Sure, simple drugstore white strips work, and the fancier custom trays your dentist can make for you work even better. I’d bet money that at least some of your friends’ white teeth are due to them using these kinds of products.
Wink the Book* April 16, 2022 at 4:49 pm Honestly if you want a low barrier to entry fix that is pretty decent for your tooth health, try the activated charcoal treatment. It works especially well on coffee/tea stained teeth. I found a bottle of activated charcoal capsules at my local drug chain store, and it was about $10. Basically, you get a new toothbrush (not electric), get it wet, dip it in the charcoal powder, put it on your teeth (do NOT brush, just kinda mash it on there), be weirded out by your black teeth, keep it on for 5-10 minutes, then rinse your mouth out thoroughly and GENTLY rub any excess off w/a finger. I usually brush my teeth with regular toothpaste beforehand. It usually takes a few days to get a dramatic change, but I do this for a week twice a year, and it works awesome. You can also google the full process. Also, I didn’t go to the dentist during COVID because seemed a bad idea. My dentist remarked on how my teeth are SO clean. I put it down to regular brushing and the charcoal treatment. He barely has to do any plaque removal and just some polishing.
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 7:13 pm I think I’ll give this a try. I already exclusively use crest whitening toothpaste and that doesn’t do anything.
Sufferer* April 16, 2022 at 5:03 pm I’d love an answer to this as well. Nothing works for me. I’ve done a few in-office procedures, and the improvements was not only very modest, but short-lived. I think my enamel is also thin or something. I wish so much for a solution.
Qwerty* April 16, 2022 at 5:38 pm I saw an impressive improvement with just Crest whitening toothpaste, if you want to try it out without using any of the harsher stuff. I drink tea instead of coffee, so I saw noticeable improvement without even going through a full tube. Post-improvement, I use it once every week or so to prevent stains during months where I’m drinking black tea. Your dentist would be able to give the best recommendation based on the current state of your teeth. My family all goes to the same dentist and we were given different recommendations based on our teeth, fillings/issues, and current levels of staining.
Juneybug* April 16, 2022 at 11:18 pm – I have had great results with Opalescence Go – Prefilled Teeth Whitening Trays – 15% Hydrogen Peroxide – Mint. You can purchase them from Amazon. I brush my teeth after dinner/evening snack, then wear them for 30 minutes, remove and lightly brush the gel off my teeth. For me, they work much better than Crest Whitening Strips. – Brush three times and floss daily. – Have your teeth cleaned twice a year by dentist. – Wear blue based lip gloss or lipstick. – Use whitening toothpaste. If your teeth are sensitive at dental appts, use sensitive toothpaste for two weeks prior to your appt. Then switch back to whitening toothpaste afterwards.
WellRed* April 17, 2022 at 1:58 pm Ordered. If they do have as good as they advertise, I’ll consider it a success.
Anony* April 17, 2022 at 10:19 am Brush your teeth BEFORE drinking coffee in the morning. This simple tip changed the game for me. The coffee sticks to the plaque and actually yellows your teeth more if you don’t brush first.
Dino* April 17, 2022 at 3:47 pm Thank you for this. Coffee drinker and smoker. Gotta get myself to the dentist.
Australia Trip* April 16, 2022 at 10:52 am I’m going to be in Sydney and Melbourne for a few days each in May. Any suggestions on top things to do in each since it’s a limited time? Thanks!
Australia Trip* April 16, 2022 at 10:53 am Also, must eat foods and/or restaurant suggestions would be great :)
TheDisenchantedForest* April 16, 2022 at 2:53 pm The Rocks district is full of pubs and restaurants; it’s close to the waterfront (within walking distance of the opera house), and there are plenty of choices! You can check them out online in advance, as some may have COVID restrictions to take into consideration with your schedule and comfort level (takeaway only, dining outside vs inside, vaccination program mask requirements, etc).
Expiring Cat Memes* April 17, 2022 at 9:47 am I would say the fresh seafood here in Australia is something worth trying. In Sydney, I’d recommend a visit to the Pyrmont fish markets to try some fresh-off-the trawler prawns (get Tigers or Ocean Kings; avoid the cheaper farmed ones like Crystal Bays or Bananas), Moreton Bay/Balmain bugs (a lot like lobster), and in a decent restaurant/café if you see barramundi, snapper or coral trout you can’t go wrong. Sydney is a bit hit and miss for food I find. Many good places, but twice as many tourist traps. Darling Harbour/Rocks etc are the worst for that. Nice views, but if food is important to you maybe try Surry Hills or venture somewhere else a little off the main strips instead. Also, it’s not a tip culture here, so expect the service to be disappointing compared to what you’re used to. It’s especially bad now, as good service staff are in high demand and short supply since panini. Melbourne and surrounds are much more consistently good on the food scene than Sydney I think. Just over an hour out of Melbourne is Mornington Peninsula, it’s bush meets beach with many wineries and great dining options in between. If you’re up for a fancy meal, I highly recommend Ten Minutes By Tractor. Polperro was great too. If you have the time, a few hours at Peninsula Hot Springs around sunset is an amazing experience.
Expiring Cat Memes* April 17, 2022 at 10:00 am Oh, and make a point of going out for breakfast/brunch. This is apparently a land of morning people and if there is one meal we have nailed, it is breakfast (which many cafés offer all day). And good coffee.
Falling Diphthong* April 16, 2022 at 11:24 am I loved the Twelve Apostles, a day trip south from Melbourne. We were by car and it’s mostly bus tours, so it was much easier to land in uncrowded parts than I would have expected.
TheDisenchantedForest* April 16, 2022 at 2:49 pm If you want to see the Sydney Harbour Bridge without doing the climb to the top, one of the bridge’s pillars has stairs you can climb for a nice view of the city. Darling Harbour is nice and has some good shops. And the city market is great for souvenirs. If you want to see a show at the opera house, you can usually get cheap tickets for a production in one of its outbuildings (instead of the main hall). Also, all roads lead to the Queen Victoria Building (called the QVB), a 19th century train station converted into shops. It’s a great place to grab a map and use as a reference point to get around the city. Sydney is very walkable, too, so wear comfy shoes if you plan on going on foot. Enjoy! Sydney is a great city.
Virginia Plain* April 17, 2022 at 5:05 am But do consider the bridge climb. It’s wonderful! I got the bus to coogee and walked round to bondi beach one day which was lovely.
Ismis* April 16, 2022 at 9:27 pm This is all for Melbourne. I’m not much of a restaurant goer I’m afraid! You’ll find the ACMI and the Ian Potter Centre at Federation Square. The ACMI has a permanent (free) exhibition which is worth a look (I love the zoetrope). Ian Potter is a gallery of Australian art. A short walk away is the National Gallery of Victoria; if you’re not interested in the exhibitions, you can go inside to check out the stained glass ceiling in the great hall. Also in the city, Melbourne is known for its street art, so have a walk down AC/DC lane and Hosier Lane. The Block Arcade and Royal Arcade are Victorian era shopping arcades and worth a walk through as well. Melbourne is big on brunch and Degraves St used to be the place to go. It’s been a while for me but there used to be a lot of options there. You can get a myki card and hop on a tram down to St Kilda (around a half hour trip). Acland Street is known for its cake shops, go to Luna Park if you want to hop on a rollercoaster, or take a walk along the beach before grabbing a drink and watching the sunset. You can do a wine tasting tour that picks you up in the city and brings you to some wineries in the Yarra Valley. I did one a few years ago with Yarra Valley Wine Tasting Tours a few years ago that included a really nice lunch and a visit to a chocolate factory. I went with a few friends but people were very friendly so I think you would be good to go solo. You could also do a boat trip on the Yarra. If you like sport, you could do a tour of the MCG or go to a footy game. If you have a car, another option is a trip out to the Dandenong Ranges, where you can ride on the Puffing Billy steam train, see native animals at Healeville Sanctuary, and feed native birds at Grant’s Picnic Grounds. I’m sure I’m missing lots but I hope that helps!
Melb local* April 18, 2022 at 2:26 am Great list! I think you can take a train to get to the Puffing Billy https://puffingbilly.com.au/visit-us/getting-here/public-transport/ If you do have a car, I’d recommend the Heide Museum and Banksia Park.
Bobina* April 17, 2022 at 5:32 am I did one of those day trips from Melbourne that takes you around a couple of sites – Twelve Apostles, a rainforest I forget the name of etc. I thought it was a good way to get to see the bits outside the city that would be a bit of a trek otherwise, and it didnt feel particularly rushed to me. I did it solo and felt very comfortable. If you like wine (or even if you dont) – I also enjoyed doing the wine tour to Yarra valley, if only for the scenery and nice lunch that was included. In Sydney, one of my favourite things was the beaches that have rock pools as well. I think this is fairly common there but its certainly not where I’m from, and I just loved experiencing that!
Silence* April 19, 2022 at 3:40 am A lot depends on what you like doing. The vivid festival is at the end of May in Sydney and very nice most of it is free but I did the paid tour of Taronga zoo one year and the view from the sky rail was great A day trip to the blue mountains to see the three sisters/ scenic world is lovely Not the right time of year for sculpture by the sea but the walk from Bondi beach is still lovely. A harbour cruise is good and available at multiple price points from the public ferries $150
Technical Writer* April 16, 2022 at 11:08 am I have two weddings to attend coming up in May and in August. The May wedding is formal attire and avoids the usual colors (Avoid wearing any white, cream, and gold champagne colors), while the wedding in August will be an Indian wedding. Any places where I can get clothing that would be suitable for both weddings?
Katie* April 16, 2022 at 2:45 pm I thought the same thing, and then went and looked at dresses to buy there…
Technical Writer* April 16, 2022 at 5:33 pm I thought eshakti first since that’s where I had gotten a dress for the last wedding I attended – but they all seemed too casual for a “formal attire wedding”…
ecnaseener* April 17, 2022 at 2:42 pm Yeah, I think they’re skewing a little more casual since the pandemic. They used to have a formal line but I don’t see it on their website anymore and I forget what it was called. They still have a wedding guest dresses section though.
Be the Change* April 16, 2022 at 1:38 pm I have never told my sister that I attended her son’s extremely fancy gigantic wedding (about 10 events over 5 days all told) wearing dresses from thrift stores. They were all beautiful and I got lots of compliments. Of course I was lucky with my thrifting, but it sure made me feel better not to spend a ton of money on fancy clothes that I would never wear again. Maybe ThredUp would be good? For an Indian wedding, do not wear black. (Source – Indian family members.)
Virginia Plain* April 17, 2022 at 4:50 am I wouldn’t wear black to any wedding tbh; it reads rude – “I’m mourning your marriage”. I’ve been that red is to be avoided for Indian weddings as it’s the bride’s colour, so like wearing whites/cream to a western wedding.
Technical Writer* April 17, 2022 at 9:43 am So there are 2 weddings. The first one is the traditional Western wedding – no white/cream/gold. The second wedding is the Indian one – but I have no idea what’s usually considered acceptable and Google shows that there are multiple days and outfit changes?
Purple Cat* April 17, 2022 at 3:27 pm Depends on how traditional the Indian wedding is. Traditional Indian bridal attire is red. So avoid that (or any pink/wine blush etc). Otherwise, the Indian guests’ attire will likely be very bright and colorful, so anything “fun” will fit in.
the cat's ass* April 17, 2022 at 10:50 am Hot pink or blue are my celebratory go-to colors for weddings and i got a great dress with a lace top in cobalt from Goodwill.
Home Decor Question* April 16, 2022 at 11:14 am I have these….door plaques (?) doorknob decorations (?) that were left in my house by the previous owner. They’re beautiful – solid wood; hand-painted. But I’ve never seen them before. They almost have a Pennsylvania Dutch feel to them. (I live in Ohio, if that’s useful to know.) Do they have a name?? I will put a link in the comments. Thanks for anyone who can shed any light!
Home Decor Question* April 16, 2022 at 11:15 am Here is a photo: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XhyFcbAVxhhiaSVnsKSvFJs5e8XYG_QR/view?usp=sharing
Jen Erik* April 16, 2022 at 12:01 pm I’d call them fingerplates, but I haven’t seen any like that before!
pancakes* April 16, 2022 at 12:01 pm I don’t know anything about that style, but those are door faceplates.
mreasy* April 17, 2022 at 12:13 pm Poshmark is where I buy all my wedding attire! It’s a great place to find the type of thing you’ll only wear once or twice, like formalwear.
Dark Macadamia* April 16, 2022 at 12:05 pm Oh wow I love that! The paint style looks like rosemaling to me, a type of Scandinavian folk art
Blomma* April 17, 2022 at 6:25 pm Yes, it definitely looks like rosemaling, especially with the shade of blue used for the background.
Home Decor Question* April 16, 2022 at 5:06 pm Thanks, everyone! As usual, the most helpful community on the Internet.=)
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 5:34 pm Rose plates or back plates. The round thing that goes around the doorknob hole is called a rosette.
Sunflower* April 16, 2022 at 11:17 am I’m using a High Efficiency washer and dryer for the first time and I don’t know if there’s something wrong with it or if this is just how H/E’s work. I am renting in a condo in NYC for reference. They are both quite compact and the dryer sits on top of the washer (for space reasons). Learned during my first load that I can only put about 10-15 items in per load or else the clothes won’t get fully wet. The dryer seems to take FOREVER or just not work- I usually run everything on Very Dry. I washed only a flat and fitted sheet and had to run it on Very Dry for 4 loads for it to dry. Last week, I ran a load in the dryer and left the clothes in there. This morning, ran a load in the wash and when I went to transfer the clothes out of the dryer, they felt wet in some spots. Is it possible that moisture could be flowing up from the washer into the dryer and that’s what is partially to blame for causing the clothes to be wet? Basically just wondering if this is something that H/E dryers just do and I have to get used to running multiple times or if it’s time to call my landlord about taking a look. I remove the lint tray each time, the clothes feel warm after drying so is there anything else I should try first?
Tib* April 16, 2022 at 11:42 am I’d look at how things are vented. We have an old gas dryer that vents to the outside and I think the clothes get damp from the outside air.
Not A Manager* April 16, 2022 at 12:07 pm My experience is the opposite to Tib’s. We rented a condo where I think the owner put in an unauthorized laundry unit and the dryer did not vent to the outdoors. It took at least 4 cycles to dry a few things, and I think it’s because it wasn’t venting properly. I’ve had numerous HE machines and when they vent to the outdoors they dry perfectly well. In terms of the washer, if it’s a compact size you probably will need to be careful about overloading it. But also check the settings on the washer and see if you can adjust them to use more water than the current setting.
Girasol* April 16, 2022 at 12:14 pm I did a load in Dad’s stacked washer/dryer and it took hours to dry. He said it didn’t have a lint trap. When I found the well-hidden thing and cleaned it out, the dryer dried much better.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 12:27 pm I don’t think dryers can actually be high efficiency, just washers. Or at least that’s how it was when we were shopping 8 years ago. We bought a high efficiency washer, and a dryer that matched, but wasn’t high efficiency. So I don’t think it’s an issue related to it being high efficiency, just either an incorrectly installed or not working dryer.
The Other Dawn* April 16, 2022 at 12:47 pm Does the dryer have a timed setting? I have H/E, too, and I’ve found the Very Dry setting just isn’t right much of the time. It stops way too soon, or it goes longer and still isn’t really enough. Most of the time I used the timed setting and it works much better. Also agree with checking to make sure it’s vented properly and if so, that the vent is clean.
The teapots are on fire* April 16, 2022 at 12:56 pm First of all, HE washers use less water and they spin like CRAZY, so unless your clothes come out looking or smelling dirty I wouldn’t second-guess how wet they got in the washing process. If there are obvious completely dry spots, then, yes, it may need servicing. The moisture sensor on our HE dryer is 100% useless unless the dryer is just packed full, so I use the timer. But there could also be a venting problem; I wouldn’t be suprprised, especially if it’s a retrofit in an old building.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 1:51 pm The dryer vent conduit / duct needs to be checked and cleaned immediately. Do not use it again until you have done so. The poor performance is not your worst problem here. This could be a fire hazard. Even if it is properly connected to the outside, it can get clogged with lint, because the lint trap is not perfect. A lot of lint still collects in the duct and/or the vent screen, and builds up over time. The next-day moisture is most likely condensation from when the dryer cooled down. This is another symptom of lint in the ductwork, because it traps humidity. Clogged ducts / vents can cause the dryer to overheat and trip the auto shutoff so that it takes a bunch of cycles to dry the clothes.
lapgiraffe* April 16, 2022 at 5:13 pm +1 for this, there’s specific companies that do just this and should be an easy and not terribly expensive service.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 8:19 pm You can get a kit at a hardware store or walmart with a long flexible brush that will loosen everything up, and then vacuum it. I’m sure a service is great, but it’s an easy DIY.
M&M Mom* April 16, 2022 at 2:31 pm I have this problem, too. Our unit cannot be vented outside. Mine is a Bosch which has settings for Very dry and Extra dry. These settings somehow dry even less than choosing Regular dry. It was also taking me hours to sorta dry things, so I’ve kind of given up. After a while, I take things out and use a clotheshorse and let them air dry.
Unkempt Flatware* April 16, 2022 at 6:02 pm Until you find the problem and solution, dry with an already dry towel to help soak up some moisture.
*daha** April 16, 2022 at 7:45 pm This could be caused by built-up lint in the venting to the outside. You can youtube various clearing methods, but depending on how your dryer is vented you might need a pro.
Sunflower* April 16, 2022 at 8:53 pm Wow I was not expecting so many helpful replies! My guess is that it may not vent to the outside. My building has about 10 units, however, the others are all studios/1 bedrooms whereas mine is 2 units that was converted to a 2 bedroom and I’m guessing may be the only with a W/D. Based on where the W/D sits…it seems doubtful it’s venting outside. It sounds like the culprit it a vent issues and I fear it’s clogged So….how the heck do I check the air duct? Just pull the whole dang thing out? Youtube videos? The basement tentant does serve as the property manager so I can also ask him to take a look.
Not A Manager* April 16, 2022 at 10:51 pm If it doesn’t vent to the outside, there might not be an easy fix (but people are right to check the conduit for trapped lint anyway). In that condo with the poorly vented dryer, I wound up just air drying everything that’s reasonably thin – things like cotton shirts and bed linens dried a lot faster open to the air than they did in the dryer. I only used the dryer for jeans and bath towels, and I would get them to the “damp” stage and air dried them to finish. It can be helpful to complete your washer cycle and then run the wet items on “drain and spin only” to get out additional moisture. Some washers have an explicit setting for “drain and spin,” but for others it’s in the “special cycles” or “custom” menu. You can find how to set it in the online manual.
Juneybug* April 16, 2022 at 11:31 pm Look outside of your building to see if there is an opening for the dryer air to flow (called an exterior exhaust dryer vent). If there is, have the property manager run a dryer vent brush to clean the duct work. They should also use the brush to clean from the dryer as far as the brush can reach. Run the empty dryer for a few minutes to help blow out the loosen dirt, lint, etc. If there is no exterior dryer vent, ask them to figure out where the hot air is going – basement? Walls? If it’s a gas dryer, it must run outside so you don’t have carbon monoxide build up.
Dwight Schrute* April 17, 2022 at 9:37 am I’ve always had this problem with stackable units and just thought they kind of sucked. Hopefully you can find a fix for yours!
LC* April 16, 2022 at 11:34 am Curious to get some opinions on the ethics of a specific situation. San Francisco, like some other cities, has a program for first time home buyers that, among other things gives people under a certain income cap access to purchase homes at a significantly lower cost than normal. Our current combined income is between 110% and 130% of the allowable two person income cap (about 40/60 split), variable from place to place. He is extremely underpaid and is looking for a new job. If he were to find what he’s looking for (likely), his salary alone would put us right around or just under the two person income cap. Once he’s settled in this theoretical new job, say I quit my job. Then we buy a place. Then some time after that, I get a new job, which would put us back over the income cap. (We wouldn’t do this without enough savings to be okay with me not working for a couple months.) Setting aside concerns about our money, which is plenty to think through on its own, and the idea of buying somewhere in a lower cost of living area, which is a consideration but not what I’m asking about, setting aside everything but this particular question: Does this seem ethical?
Shiny* April 16, 2022 at 11:55 am I do think that this is circumventing the spirit of the programs, if not the letter. It also seems rife with room for things to go wrong, as there are multiple steps that require the right timing, but if your risk tolerance is high enough, that may not be an issue. I recently (literally went under contract yesterday) a home in a different very high COL area. There are similar programs here, but the occupancy requirements were quite high for the homes in this program. I’m sure you’ve looked into this, but you will want to be extra sure that you fit under the (her, quite low) income caps with the right occupancy. For example here, a 3br needs to be occupied by at least 5 people to qualify. I am also a first time buyer and was eligible for certain types of loans, though not the lottery properties. However, talking to my lender, it made more sense for me to go with a conventional loan as the interest rates were lower. Granted, this involved me borrowing from myself, but I will save money over the long term. It may not be right for you, but you can take an IRA disbursement without the usual penalties for the purposes of buying your first home. Good luck! I know it’s hard out there right now, but I just totally lucked out and I hope that happens for you, too.
LC* April 16, 2022 at 4:18 pm you can take an IRA disbursement without the usual penalties for the purposes of buying your first home I’d never heard of this! I can see that being very helpful, definitely worth looking into. Thank you for mentioning it!
Shiny* April 17, 2022 at 11:19 am Please talk to your tax and/or financial advisor and don’t take my word for it! But yes, it’s one of the very few circumstances. You still get taxed as you would for a regular withdrawal, but no early penalties.
Sunflower* April 16, 2022 at 11:59 am In theory, no I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it. However, I think the way these programs are set up, they already have systems in place to prevent people from doing this. Without knowing anything about the SF buyers program, what is the inventory like for those who qualify? Living in NYC, I only know about our housing lottery here and it’s extremely competitive so it’s unlikely you’ll get picked in the first place. I have a friend who is a lifelong resident and has gotten selected many times, however, there are different levels of ‘deals’ and packages and often whatever she was selected for wasn’t actually great and she opt’d to stay in her non-subsidized housing. Even for friends who were accepted, the process can take around 6-8 months to be accepted and another 6 months to check and process all the forms before you can move in- so it’s likely you’d need to be out of work for quite some time to qualify. I would really make sure you read the fine print, otherwise, it seems like a lot of people would be taking advantage of this (which maybe they are!)
kina lillet* April 16, 2022 at 1:00 pm The ethics are fine; you need this to buy a residence. You’re not buying a house/condo as an investment tool. And, if “I follow the rules” is your only standard for acting ethically in this situation, then it’s enough that your income will be at the limit when your husband gets his new job.
kina lillet* April 16, 2022 at 1:01 pm That said, as Sunflower mentions above, it’s probably going to be a huge PITA, so make sure to really figure it out before launching into a lower income.
LC* April 16, 2022 at 4:15 pm You need this to buy a residence. You’re not buying a house/condo as an investment tool. This is an interesting thought. I’m still not sure how I feel about the whole thing, but I would absolutely find it unethical and just plain shitty for someone to do this simply for the investment opportunity.
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 9:17 am Most first time home-buying programs have rules in place to prevent this. It has to be your primary residence, and if that changes you have to pay back the benefits of the program.
Patty Mayonnaise* April 17, 2022 at 10:01 am I would be extremely surprised if the program didn’t require you to live in the home as your primary reside,
Clisby* April 17, 2022 at 6:35 pm There are some limited opportunities like that here (Charleston, SC) but if I recall correctly, there are strict resale limits to prevent people from using it as a flip-it investment. Something like (I’m making this up, because I can’t remember the limits) if you sell the house before you’ve owned it for 5 years you can only sell it for 5-10% more than you paid for it.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 2:04 pm If the same sequence of events happened due to life reasons (like for example, leaving your job to start freelancing or become a stay at home parent but it didn’t work out) then there’s nothing inherently wrong with that. I do feel that creating a long-term plan to game the system is both foolish and morally questionable. There is a limited resource for people who need it. You don’t actually need it, you would just be LARPing temporarily as someone who needs it, and your use of it reduces the pool of what’s available for everyone else. It’s analogous to deliberately injuring yourself in order to get a disabled parking placard, but then keeping that placard after you’re healed up. On the ethical front you are blocking access for your own convenience. On the practical front, you could wind up with things going badly wrong and hurting yourself worse than you thought.
LC* April 16, 2022 at 4:12 pm I completely understand how someone would have an ethical objection to this, and I agree that it could very well be, in a practical sense, an absolute disaster. I don’t even know how I feel about it, which is the reason I’m asking for others’ thoughts. But saying that we would be LARPing as people who need it is harsh. The point of the program is to allow people to purchase a home in an area they’d never be able to otherwise. And I don’t think that otherwise we’d ever be able to afford something within a hundred miles of our preferred location. Even with this, we’re talking a price that’s at the high end of what we’d be able to afford, it’s not like we’d be taking something out of inventory that is only a quarter of what we could easily afford or that our income is like four times the cap.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 5:05 pm The program is very specifically for people with stated incomes. A group that does not include you, and which you intend to remove yourself from as soon as you get what you want, because you can. That’s LARPing. Do you not see how you are trying to twist the definitions to suit your desired outcome? The way you keep shifting your justifications should ring a big alarm bell that this is — well, shifty. The sure-fire way to make sure this is ethical would be to contact the program and ask if it’s allowed. Would you be willing to do that? Or would you not want to be transparent, in case it tanked your plans? I think you need to get honest with yourself. If you’re determined to do it, you could probably get away with it. But you can’t do it AND be ethical about it.
Jacki* April 16, 2022 at 5:16 pm But you would be playacting the part of people who need this, by deliberately creating circumstances to qualify you for something that is supposed to be for those in genuine need. You do not qualify, and you do not intend to live a life that qualifies, you’re going to fake it to take advantage of this scheme. That is LARPing as people who need it – and no matter how you try to justify it to yourself, that’s the reality. If you aren’t comfortable hearing that, that should tell you everything you needed to know.
S* April 16, 2022 at 7:16 pm LARPing is very harsh—if I’m reading you right, you’re in the unfortunate spot of having enough income to not qualify for help but not enough to actually be able to buy, given the insanity of the housing market here. I sympathize, we’re in the same boat and I’ve just given up on the idea of owning instead of renting. So I get why you’re thinking of doing this and I won’t say it’s obviously unethical—like, is there a difference between your plan and someone who quits their job, stays home with a baby, qualifies, and purchases? Because if the person had kept working and paid for daycare instead, they wouldn’t qualify (and they’d be ensuring childcare workers had a job to boot). Or went back to school and temporarily lost an income that way. They’re making a privileged choice with an added bonus of qualifying “ethically.” They’re not the target demographic a lot of commenters seem to be imagining (commenters who clearly aren’t living here). But I do think you know it’s squishy ethics. So I would think hard about it, incl looking at the places you were looking to buy. Like wanting to buy in a gentrifying neighborhood this way would be a no for me—you’re gaming the system and thereby displacing marginalized people. Good luck, and I hope you find a way that is realistic for where we live, aligns with your values, and gets you a home you can be happy in.
Vincia* April 16, 2022 at 2:57 pm No. You are deliberately circumventing processes put in place to help those less fortunate than yourself, to access a supportvyou are not entitled to. How can that be ethical? It’s cheating the system to advantage yourself. Gross.
TheDisenchantedForest* April 16, 2022 at 3:08 pm It’s one thing if you quit or lost your job as an unplanned circumstance. However, if you are deliberately planning on quitting your job in order to use this program, then doing so is unethical. The program is intended to help those who for reasons largely beyond their control, are unable to purchase homes. That doesn’t sound like your situation. Plus, quitting your job is very risky – you never know how long it will take to find another job, and so that part of your plan may backfire. You are fortunate to be able to afford a home (even if it’s not your idea home or price), so just be prepared to deal with the crazy housing market and it’s insane prices like everyone else.
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 9:18 am Also I’m confused about how you would qualify for a mortgage at your new reduced single income. If you can’t get a good rate you’ll lose the money you would have saved through the program.
Not So NewReader* April 16, 2022 at 3:34 pm I’d be afraid of getting “caught” and it would “blow up in my face”. I get why people do this, I really do. But since you asked, my vote is no. My number one reason is the rule of thumb that any time we accept money or favors from others they then own a part of us. I would fully expect the fine print to include you promise to hand over your grandchildren’s income once they reach adulthood or similar outlandish requirement. I am kind of side stepping the ethics question and moving on to “what happens if things go wrong here? How spectacular is the mess that follows?”
Candi* April 16, 2022 at 8:03 pm I’ll take it a step farther. Say LC and spouse get caught at this attempt to finagle the system. It’s pretty much guaranteed that for the next ten years -at least- they’ll be held up as an example of the people who use the program, cheaters, by everyone who wants to defund it or argue that it’s not needed. The same way the 2% or less number of people who actually, actively cheat welfare are held up as an example of the majority of welfare users, even though that is not true at all. 98-99% of users on the system need it (and need it to be better) and use it responsibly. But it’s not the single mother who squeezed groceries for three for a month out of $500 in SNAP while working two part-time jobs who’ll be held up as an example of people on welfare. It’ll be the person who repeatedly sold their SNAP card for cash for half the value and reported it lost, rinse and repeat. (That’s why it costs $1 in my state to replace the card after the first loss, unless there’s a police report.) And it won’t be the people who desperately need the housing aid and use it responsibly that’ll be held up, it’ll be the couple that cheated. Those are the stories that get clicks.
Bumblebeee* April 16, 2022 at 5:22 pm I think of ethical behaviour as doing the right thing even when no one is watching; even when doing the wrong thing is perfectly legal. The moment you ask “is this ethical” you know yourself it is not. Kind of like the question, “is this cheating on my partner?” You only ask because you know you’ve already crossed boundaries into something that’s not okay.
Janet Pinkerton* April 17, 2022 at 8:42 am Okay I’m spirit I’m with you—this situation seems pretty clear-cut unethical—but I don’t think merry asking the question makes something unethical. Example: my grandmother hesitated to put her house in trust so Medicare couldn’t take it for her medical expenses. She was concerned it was unethical. But this option specifically exists so people can do it. It’s specifically allowed. And it’s not unethical. Another example: my dad got a small gift card for hitting 1000 hours with his volunteer organization. He was concerned about the ethics because he has only volunteered 600 hours with them, but they count the hours funny. (Something about his volunteering saving them the extra time.) The organization counts all volunteer hours like this. So it’s not unethical for him to accept the gift card, because it’s not like the organization is over-counting his hours and not everyone else’s. (Might the overcounting be hinky in some other way? Yes. But not regarding the gift card.) But yeah, the situation as written about by the original poster is unethical and shady. I think the advice to ask the program office if the plan would be okay is a good one—maybe they routinely have people do this and they support it! But if you aren’t comfortable asking then you know it’s shady.
Qwerty* April 16, 2022 at 5:33 pm I find a good rule of thumb for ethics is to think through “what if everyone did this?” and “what if I was completely honest during this process?” It’s really easy to justify doing what we want or gaining some benefit. Very easy to say why we deserve something or how we’re special. What you are describing is gaming the system. Say there’s a real person you talk to when processing your application for the program (like in the old pre-automation days) – while they were evaluating your application, would you tell that person that you deliberately quit your job as a temporary measure to qualify for government assistance? Think about the past few years with the pandemic. How did you feel about corporations gobbling up the PPP funds that were meant for small businesses? What about the people who hoarded high-demand products which added up to scarcity and bare shelves at grocery stores? How do you feel about government assistance programs in general? Do you want to see more of them? Because gaming the system results in more scrutiny which makes it harder to fund and expand those programs and puts them in danger of being reduced or eliminated. You and your husband have options right now – these programs are intended for people who don’t. I say this as someone who is priced out of living in my city. From a practical perspective, I don’t think taking a couple months off work would qualify you anyway. A decent system would be look at overall annual income rather than extrapolating from a 1-3month period, so you’d probably have to stop working for close to a year at a minimum.
anonagain* April 16, 2022 at 6:07 pm This does not seem ethical to me, no. I hope your husband finds a better job and that you are able to find a place to live.
Squeakrad* April 16, 2022 at 7:18 pm I live in San Francisco and was curious about this. When I looked at the programs available for first time homebuyers, I see that there is a program that assist you with a down payment/loan, where you would be bidding on properties on the open market. I would say if you have the money to do that, I would have less of an issue with you getting some help for the down payment. However the other program for below market rate units is just for several units in pretty crappy neighborhoods. However these units are priced way below market so I think if you were to try to take advantage of that program It would be super unfair to those folks are legitimately do not have the income to buy a market rate property but can afford these low cost properties. To be fair I do not have a strong homebuying bias and would certainly not do anything to purchase a home in the areas I see the listings for On the below market rate list.
Virginia Plain* April 17, 2022 at 5:21 am The long and short of it is, the scheme is for people who earn less than you; you don’t qualify. Giving up your job to technically come under the income threshold is…dishonest. And giving up a job without a new one planned because you have enough of a financial cushion to see things through while you do all this, is leveraging your privilege to gain an advantage specifically set up to assist those with less privilege than you, which leaves a rather nasty taste into mouth. If I were someone that was clinging on to my job for dear life and still coming in under the threshold, I’d be livid with you. Also you might not be eligible; your chunk of savings might be taken into account and they could say you come in over the threshold on that basis. Lastly schemes like these (in my country at least) are not aimed so that people can buy a house in an area they wouldn’t be able to afford, ie a fancier neighbourhood – they are for people who otherwise couldn’t buy a house at all. All this said I think from your question wording that you know what or feel about this. If you were fine with it you wouldn’t have asked the question.
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 9:20 am To be fair, I know tons of people who are careful to keep their side hustle below some amount because they don’t want to lose various benefits, and I am sympathetic to that because earning just a few dollars more could put you over the cap for reduced insurance worth thousands. They are victims of our system IMO. Quitting a decently paying job seems a lot worse though.
MMB* April 17, 2022 at 9:40 am I totally understand your thought process here, so maybe look at it from a slightly different angle. When you think about doing this in order to get the loan try substituting the phrase Food Stamps or Section 8 voucher for Home Loan and see if you feel the same way. At the heart of the matter it’s the same thing.
Falling Diphthong* April 17, 2022 at 12:05 pm To question: If you have to ask if it’s ethical, 9 times out of 10 you know it isn’t and are looking for permission. (1 time out of 10, I’m like “Of course that is okay, you can drop your end of this dispute.”) To practical concerns: Deliberately quitting your job just before applying for a mortgage is probably not a great idea.
AvonLady Barksdale* April 16, 2022 at 11:36 am I recently acquired some beautiful linens from my late grandparents’ home. They were stored in a mid-century credenza that smelled… weird. Not mildew-y or musty, just odd. The linens are not especially fragile so I washed them on delicate, used Woolite, all that jazz, but there’s still a faint smell. Two questions: first, any tips on completely getting rid of the smell? Maybe a spritz with vinegar and lavender? Second, I’m storing them in a bench and want to make sure I keep things fresh. I just put an activated charcoal bag in there– is that enough?
Wildcat* April 16, 2022 at 11:39 am Hanging them outside, if possible. I wash things with baking soda to get smells out.
MassChick* April 16, 2022 at 1:35 pm Where/how/when do you add the baking soda? (I am assuming this is a washing machine load).
Not So NewReader* April 16, 2022 at 3:36 pm I put mine in with the soap but you can put it in with the rinse water if you like.
Wildcat* April 16, 2022 at 4:21 pm I just throw it in with the clothes in the beginning. Really works for cat pee.
Not A Manager* April 16, 2022 at 12:44 pm Definitely hang them outside as much as possible. Activated charcoal is good; another option is an open container with some baking soda in it.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 2:37 pm Can you hang them outside to air them out? That’s a low impact thing. Putting things in sun removes stains(!). I would do something low impact before trying other strategies.
AvonLady Barksdale* April 16, 2022 at 3:11 pm I don’t have any outdoor space, sadly. I wouldn’t hang anything out of my windows here– too much city soot, plus birds really like my windows. The closest I can get is a drying rack in front of my floor-to-ceiling window.
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 9:22 am This is crazy but I think I would plan a weekend away at some air bnb in the country (which I would want to do anyway, I mean) and bring the sheets with me :D
I take tea* April 16, 2022 at 3:58 pm Soak them overnight and add white vinegar and baking soda. Then wash them again.
fhqwhgads* April 16, 2022 at 5:36 pm Spritz with vodka. Or soak in hot water and vinegar overnight…or really, start it in hot water which will of course cool down, but that. Or put it an enclosed container with activated charcoal.
Not a cat* April 16, 2022 at 6:15 pm The trick for vintage clothing is spraying them w/ white vinegar and hanging them outside to dry. The Laundress makes a fabric freshener that I’ve used on vintage cashmere w/ success.
Chauncy Gardener* April 17, 2022 at 12:06 pm Hang outside in the sun (unless they’re not white). The sun will get rid of stains and smells
Shiny* April 16, 2022 at 11:38 am Last weekend I posted asking for advice as I went out house hunting, and the commentariat came through. This week, I’m under contract for my new home! I can’t believe how quickly and easily it all happened; it feels almost suspiciously too easy. I close in a few weeks. Things I should know, do, think about, anticipate, etc., etc. and so forth?
Can't think of a funny name* April 16, 2022 at 2:22 pm If you are getting a loan, turn in everything you are asked for quickly…that process can take awhile. Schedule your home inspection if you haven’t already.
Filosofickle* April 16, 2022 at 2:30 pm I closed this week (14 day close…totally banana crackers) and have one weird piece of advice: Wire transfers have gotten complicated, due to fraud and pandemic changes in banking, so find out what you need now so it doesn’t catch you by surprise in that last day or two. I had money in two places — an online bank and a traditional bank. The online bank was super easy, they allow big transfers to title companies. But the traditional bank would only do the wire transfer via a banker in person, and I could only see a banker with an appointment…which no branch near me had. If I’d known, I’d have scheduled an appointment in advance! I also didn’t know that wires have to be processed by 2p where I am (pacific time), so I lost a day due to that as well. Expect to need a lot of time in the final days for the walkthrough, paperwork, notaries, wires, etc. It’s a lot of tasks and they lean on you to turn it all immediately. Either be prepared for that or be comfortable going at your own pace even if it pushes out the closing. I was lucky work was slow. It’s not too easy! You just got lucky. As did I. Congrats!
Shiny* April 16, 2022 at 11:13 pm Thanks for this! I had to mail a physical check with my earnest money to the title company, which I was not anticipating. Foolishly, I dropped it in the mail and only then realized I should have gotten a tracking number. So fingers crossed I haven’t already messed up the timeline. Mail service here is very reliable, but things happen.
Albeira Dawn* April 16, 2022 at 11:38 am What’s your favorite moving advice, both long- and short-distance?
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 16, 2022 at 12:37 pm Color-code your boxes with colored or patterned duct tape – when I move, I label each box with a tape that corresponds to a patch stuck to the door or entry of the room it’s going to end up in, an up-arrow if it’s going upstairs, and a number that corresponds to my Excel master box inventory listing box contents. (This may not be necessary if you’re moving between smaller apartments, but I was moving four people between two-story houses, and it’s super useful when you’re going “Ok, which one of these fifteen kitchen boxes is the colander in?”) Furniture can also get the duct-tape treatment. Also, try to avoid boxes of “misc”. These are always the ones that end up in a closet and then you realize you haven’t opened them since you moved five years ago. :P
The teapots are on fire* April 16, 2022 at 12:51 pm Label your boxes verbosely. Declutter as you pack. Declutter again as you unpack (you’ll often find you don’t want to keep something badly enough to figure out where you will put it in the new home.)
tab* April 16, 2022 at 1:14 pm I thought this article was great. I filed it away for our next move. https://www.farmers.com/learn/plan-and-prep/moving-preparation-checklist-and-tips/
acmx* April 16, 2022 at 1:40 pm Pay someone to do it. Also, agree with the color coded labeling of boxes.
Squirrel Nutkin* April 17, 2022 at 12:23 am My ex had his new company pay for movers to pack his stuff up in addition to moving it. It was a very low-stress way to move. Also, don’t have any utilities shut off the day you’re supposed to move or the day after, and plan for your movers to be late. I had movers show up an entire day late back in the early 90s after my phone service got cut off. Having to call them from a pay phone to find out what was going on was not fun.
Stephanie* April 16, 2022 at 1:53 pm Always, always label boxes as specifically as possible. Like, instead of “Dishes”, write “Plates and bowls” or “Serving bowls” or whatever. My husband helped my daughter pack her apartment after I packed up her kitchen, and the boxes that they labeled said, I kid you not: “Desk Crap” and “Random Crap”. Sigh. Now, when she wants to find something (she’s living with us for now), we have to spend WAY too much time opening boxes and digging through them. Pack a box with anything you’ll need ASAP when you get to the new place. Think sheets and such for your bed, coffee/tea making equipment, one set of dishes/glasses/utensils for each person (or disposables), multi-surface cleaning products and paper towel, toilet paper, hand soap, dish soap, box cutters, a set of towels, and any pet stuff (food/water dishes, food, medications).
Unsure* April 16, 2022 at 2:22 pm Pack yourself. No one cares as much about your stuff as you do! Use clothes in lieu of packing paper. Use toilet paper in lieu of bagged air. Bags can be easier to move than boxes if you’re doing it. If you’re paying someone, use boxes. Try to minimize the moving of things to reduce the chances of breakage. That means no temporary storage. Wrap or box mattresses to keep them clean. Have a box of tools and hardware from your stuff be the last thing packed, and keep track of it so reassembly is easy. Keep pets in empty bathroom or offsite. Downsize/donate before you move, not after. Hire piano movers in lieu of trusting regular movers with your baby (lesson learned).
Filosofickle* April 16, 2022 at 2:56 pm Even if they cared about my stuff as much as I do, I always yourself so I know what’s in the boxes and can pack with short/long term in mind. I’m preparing to move (short haul) right now and due to mobility issues I will be slow to decorate and unpack. I’m making sure that I put needed items together so I know what to unpack immediately (ex. daily cookware) and what can wait for months (ex. china). I’m also moving all my art myself, and stashing it in a back closet so it’s safely out of the way. Long term I make serious inventory lists, assigning a number to every box/item and capturing the rough contents of each box — not every single item but categories (spatulas) and any key items that are expensive or special and you’d want to claim on insurance. Take pictures too of furniture and special things if you can. This process feels like overkill, but when things go missing you need to know what was in there and what to claim!
PollyQ* April 16, 2022 at 3:03 pm Time permitting, throw out as much stuff as you can before/while you pack. Everything you get rid of is something you won’t need to unpack or find a new home for in your new place.
Filosofickle* April 16, 2022 at 3:51 pm There’s one caveat I’ll put on this — with supply chain challenges make sure you really won’t need it. I’ve done a great job at getting rid of tchotchkes / papers / cookware / stuff I truly don’t need, and that’s ideal. But there are a number of big things I had always planned to ditch in my next move that I have decided to take with me because it’s hard to source things these days. Appliances and furniture especially. Taking my crappy old couch is better than not having one for several months.
PollyQ* April 17, 2022 at 2:24 am Yes, definitely good advice these days. I was thinking mostly of books, clothes, linens, etc., where it’s entirely possible that we’re only using a small fraction of the amount we own.
I take tea* April 16, 2022 at 4:13 pm Pack one travelling bag with a week’s worth of clothes, and a box of miscallainious “need immidiately”, as Stephanie said. Then you don’t have to unpack for neccesities. Make the bed immidiately, before unpacking anything else, so you can go to sleep when you want. Also plan for food, even if it’s just the number to the local pizzeria. If you have pets, try to have one room where you can keep them contained, at both ends. Always give yourself a whole day for cleaning the old place, even better if you can outsource it. Vacuum your books when you pack them. (This is what I wish I would do, but usually don’t get around to.)
Yet Another Unemployed Librarian* April 16, 2022 at 4:19 pm Yup, agree with all the comments about labeling boxes really well, or number them and list the contents in a notebook or list on your phone or something. Even a couple days of the boxes being out of sight is enough to forget what you think you’ll remember when you just write “kitchen” on it! I color coded once with tape but the movers carrying the boxes were not too into that system and kept asking me which room things went in even after I put the corresponding tape on the door frames. If you disassemble anything keep all the parts/hardware together in a labeled ziplock bag. In addition to decluttering your items, try to declutter your mail in advance too – unsubscribe from stuff, do online bill pay, etc. Start keeping track of what comes in the mail so that if you still need to get it you have a list of where you need to change your address (that includes online shopping…. More than once I have failed to change the saved address and had my order sent to an old apartment… fortunately in the same city). Get your money transferred out of a local credit union if you won’t be able to visit them anymore. You can have the post office forward your mail but they will merrily forward on all the junk too! If possible, scout out your new area either in person or at least online. I made a Google Maps list of places like groceries, gas stations, bank, drugstore, urgent care clinic, hardware store, post office, library, fast food, etc – things I’d probably need in the first couple weeks after moving. It was nice to quickly refer to that in the midst of unpacking.
Qwerty* April 16, 2022 at 5:57 pm I make a spreadsheet with what is in the boxes. That way I can give it a generic label like “#4 – Kitchen” or “#5 – Dishes” but know that I actually put in dinner plates, some bowls, and random tupperware. This really helps for when a box ends up being heavy or having odd shaped crevices so you can throw random filler items in the box without losing them. Also, I like to reuse my boxes so I label them by taping an index card on the box (write on it first) rather than writing directly on the box. (Story behind this: One cross-state move, we put my dad in charge of taping boxes closed and labeling them. He decided no box could have empty space and started taking clothing *out of my suitcase* and putting it in the boxes. The moving company was supposed to arrive a few days after me with my stuff but got delayed due to a snowstorm. I found myself completely without underwear or socks, wondering where on earth they went, and having to buy a bunch of new ones. Several months after moving I open the box labeled “Puzzles” to find all my underwear.)
Ali G* April 16, 2022 at 9:28 pm Label boxes X of Y (so 1 of 32). This prevents boxes from walking off. Put down carboard or drop clothes in the new place to prevent the floors from getting dirty. Pack the most immediately needed stuff (towels, TP, toiletries, etc.) in separate boxes and carry them with you. Always hire movers with a good reputation.
Virginia Plain* April 17, 2022 at 5:00 am If a box is oarticularly heavy (lil, it contains two wooden breadboards, and a large le creuset) label it as such so nobody is caught unawares. Whether you hire packers or not, pack the fragile things like precious glass yourself and take them in your car rather than letting them go in the van. I wrote “fragile items best left to Virginia!!” on my cut glass lol. To obtain more boxes, or get rid of the ones you’ve used after you move, your local Facebook group is great. I offered mine free to a good home and someone had sent her husband round in the suv within 24 hours; he took the lot!
Littorally* April 17, 2022 at 7:30 am Don’t try to write on a box everything that is in it. Get a notebook, and label your boxes with just a letter or a number, while you write what’s in the box in the notebook. It lets you be much more detailed and it’s easier to number/letter label a box on all sides than to make the inventory list visible on all sides. Separate out the things you will want right away, and spend a lot of time thinking about this — there are many things we often don’t think about that are part of necessities. Toilet paper, paper towels, trash cans, at least one lamp per room that doesn’t have overhead lights, etc. If you have pets, completely clear one room (if you have the space) and put the pets in that room with the door closed while packing is going on.
Dear liza dear liza* April 17, 2022 at 8:50 am Wardrobe boxes are the best. Everything in the closets go right in the box, on their hangars. All the shoes are dumped in the bottom half. Easiest boxes to unpack, too.
Marion Ravenwood* April 17, 2022 at 10:44 am Stolen from someone on AAM many moons ago: the night before or day of the move, put a fresh duvet cover and pillowcases on your duvet and pillows. Bag these up (with the new covers still on) in a separate clear plastic bag, and ideally take it in the car with you rather than in the moving van. Then when you get to your new place and make up the bed (which I would advise doing first so you can go to bed as soon as you want to later), just put on a new fitted sheet and throw the pillows and duvet straight on there. I also second the suggestion of packing a ‘first day (or first few days) kit’ with clean clothes (including socks and underwear), basic toiletries, tea/coffee making supplies (including the kettle), toilet roll, hand soap, a small towel, pet supplies etc. Lastly, those supermarket ‘bags for life’ made of a sort of plasticky woven material are a lot better for carrying books than regular cardboard boxes. Good luck!
Llellayena* April 17, 2022 at 11:31 am I still hold out for Barnes and Noble boxes for books! Bags are great because of the handles, but the last time I moved I had 21 boxes of books. That’s probably about 40-50 bags…
mreasy* April 17, 2022 at 12:16 pm If you’re shipping, use more smaller boxes rather than fewer heavier boxes. Your back and your carrier driver will thank you!
Pocket Mouse* April 17, 2022 at 3:54 pm This is more life admin, but once you move, mail your contact info to your old address so the new residents can contact you if anything important-looking slips through mail forwarding. Also, if you’re moving to a new state, refill all your prescriptions before you move.
Sundial* April 16, 2022 at 11:41 am What is a good (hopefully free or very low cost) app or site for learning a new language from scratch? I’ve used Duolingo in the past to refresh my intermediate college Spanish, but it was absolutely awful for a language that I had zero vocabulary in. IMO the way that site works is terrible unless you already have working knowledge of nouns and verbs.
Elle Woods* April 16, 2022 at 11:51 am I’ve been using the free version of Drops to learn Swedish. It’s great for vocab at least. I’m sure as I get further into it I’ll learn lengthier phrases and such.
A.N. O'Nyme* April 16, 2022 at 12:21 pm May I ask if you have a specific language in mind or are you looking for generic recommendations? I’ve often found that apps for a specific language work better than apps dealing with multiple languages (probably because they have a lot more focus).
A.N. O'Nyme* April 17, 2022 at 10:02 am Hmm, afraid I can’t be much help with those – learned both of them in a classroom setting. The only recommendation I can give if you need an online dictionary is Reverso Context, which is a free website and app that not only gives you the translation of a word but also some example sentences so you can see how it is used. Hope others can be of more use though!
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 2:08 pm Our local public library offers free access to Mango Languages. I have dabbled with it, and it seems easy to use. The library is always the first/best place to check.
Not a cat* April 16, 2022 at 6:18 pm Agree with you about Duolingo. I took 4 years of HS Spanish and 2 of college and it was really difficult if not incorrect.
Janne* April 18, 2022 at 5:58 am I think it’s very language-dependent. Danish on Duolingo is worthless, it doesn’t get you much further than the absolute basics and it can be really confusing. German and French on Duolingo are much more comprehensive, they contain grammar lessons with explanations and way more vocabulary. I’m working through the French Duolingo now, refreshing 6 years of highschool French, and it’s really enjoyable and I learn a lot. (I’m working on verb tenses such as “je voyagerais = I would travel” and “j’avais voyagé = I had travelled” which I didn’t learn in highschool)
Qwerty* April 16, 2022 at 6:46 pm I love LingoDeer. I’m not sure what the current pricing model on it is. I think languages are split into two tiers where the first is free, but I’m not entirely sure. I joined early enough that a lifetime membership was $40, not sure what it is up to now since they’ve added a lot more languages.
Hopeful Ex Librarian* April 16, 2022 at 12:48 pm Those of you who have popsockets on your phones… what do you have? I ordered myself one that’s a lemon slice, because my phone is yellow and I thought it would be cute. It’s supposed to get here hopefully today, and I’m excited. I haven’t really given popsockets a fair chance, so I’m hoping my lil lemon slice works out. :’)
acmx* April 16, 2022 at 1:42 pm I have 2 flamingos and a tropical background on one case (I swap between using a socket and not). Hope yours works out for you! :)
osmoglossum* April 16, 2022 at 3:31 pm i love popsockets and can no longer use my phone without one. i’ve had the enamel solar flare on my phone for 2 years — i just checked their website and they have so many awesome new designs. the lemon slice looks very refreshing!
Generic Name* April 16, 2022 at 4:17 pm I have a combo card holder with a pop socket I really like. It’s a blue and purple galaxy pattern that matches my purple phone case.
LC* April 16, 2022 at 4:23 pm I love my popsocket, I’d have a very hard time giving it up at this point. Mine is a kind of galaxy looking print in the colors of the bi flag.
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 7:57 pm I got one at Walmart that has a galaxy pattern. Usually I prefer a ring so I can put my finger through it—it feels more secure—but I wanted a PopSocket. The top fell off, but I just glued it back on with some E6000 and now it’s fine. That stuff is miraculous.
Littorally* April 17, 2022 at 7:32 am Got one for Christmas a couple years ago that is a shark in the Jaws pose. I find it really useful to have — it takes a little getting used to with sliding it in and out of your pocket, since the phone is no longer completely flat on the back, but it’s handy and I drop my phone less.
Maryn* April 17, 2022 at 2:26 pm My PopSocket is line art, black woodgrain on a white background. It goes perfectly with the phone’s case, which is line art of the same style in a larger scale, only white on black. I’ve never dropped my phone, most likely because of the PopSocket. I position it differently than some people, but it fits my hand nicely.
Double A* April 16, 2022 at 1:15 pm Back in September, our 1 year old kitty was diagnosed with FIP, a 100% fatal coronavirus infection. I posted here and folks shared their experiences, which I appreciated, and I have an update. There is no FDA approved treatment…but there is a treatment that has proved effective in small trials (it’s remdesivir, basically). However, you can get this treatment from sources in China. You then have to give your cat a daily injection for 3 months and monitor their blood. It seems kind of sketchy, but we went for it, and I’m happy to say that after blowing his lifetime allotment of veterinary funds…our kitty is officially cured. His final bloodwork looks perfect. No one knows if there might be some long term effects, since cats have only been surviving this in the past 5 years or so, but as of right now he is healthy and being his weird, headstrong, totally confident self. It was a wild ride but we’re very happy that our little kitty herd had made it through intact.
Asenath* April 16, 2022 at 1:34 pm Good luck. By coincidence, a local cat (I’m not in the US) has been treated for FIP recently – I don’t know the name of the drug, but it’s new, horrendously expensive and administered by a vet as an experimental/last chance thing. The cat (only a kitten, really) was diagnosed in January, fund raisers were held to help pay for the treatment, and he’s looking good now; like a new cat, full of energy and not showing any symptoms. If he continues doing well now that the injections are over, it appears his chances long term are good. I was astonished he responded so well, since I too had assumed there was no treatment, and he was going down pretty fast when the vet confirmed the diagnosis.
Double A* April 16, 2022 at 3:22 pm Yeah, I’m sure this is the same thing we did! The whole regimen was about $2500 just for the medication, with probably $1000 of diagnostics and monitoring on top. In the US, the drug is not approved at all. It’s called GS-441524. It’s very similar to remdesivir, which only has emergency use authorization so you can’t get it for animals. Many vets won’t even tell you about it because it’s black market, and no vet will administer it for the same reason. So I had to learn how to give those injections…oof, I was so glad when it was over. This article tells the whole story, it’s pretty interesting! https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/05/remdesivir-cats/611341/&ved=2ahUKEwjItsGupZn3AhW1DkQIHYP2D4cQFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1InYSaYkRCGMd-lBcVnjnV From what I’ve learned, if a cat responds early they tend to do well, so good luck to your neighbor kitty!
Princess Xenia* April 16, 2022 at 8:44 pm That’s the horribly cruel thing about FIP – most of the cases occur in young cats. In fact the older the cat the less likely it’ll develop based on prior data. It’s very unfair.
Can't think of a funny name* April 16, 2022 at 1:39 pm I did not see the original post but congrats! This is wonderful news!
merope* April 16, 2022 at 6:08 pm The Kitten Lady on YouTube has also just finished administering the same drug to one of her household cats, with the same success. It was very interesting to see her explain the results, and see the cat at the various stages of treatment.
Princess Xenia* April 16, 2022 at 8:43 pm I just had a similar experience! Kitty diagnosed with FIP, vet gave us no hopes. We looked online and found a Facebook group called FIP warriors, who got us in contact with a few different options. We got her into an experimental trial antiviral (not remdesivir but similar idea). Pills twice a day for months. I’m also happy to say that my kitty has made a full recovery! She does have a higher chance for side effects later in life, including cancer, but given a chance to have 6-10 more years with her for effectively no drop in quality of life we went for it.
Cat and dog fosterer* April 17, 2022 at 4:16 pm I remember this discussion from the fall, because FIP is so deadly yet Mutian and other drugs are starting to have wide success. They aren’t a guarantee, and they are expensive which is why many vets don’t mention it (in addition to being unresearched), and yet… if someone can afford it, then the drugs seem to have a high chance of success. https://www.askamanager.org/2021/10/weekend-open-thread-october-2-3-2021.html#comment-3573919 I’m glad to hear that there are pills now, because the shots are apparently painful. I have given shots for diabetes regularly, and the animals don’t even notice if you give them a treat, but some needles are a struggle both physically and emotionally. I’m so happy for both of you that it was a success! I’ve heard that FIP is caused by a coronavirus, and that Mutian and other therapies have helped with the research for Covid-19 drugs. I hope that research from the past two years with human drugs will now help with FIP!
Double A* April 17, 2022 at 7:36 pm I had not heard there were pills now! My cat tolerated the shots pretty well and we avoided lesions, but they were definitely stressful for me.
mreasy* April 17, 2022 at 12:17 pm I’m so glad to hear it worked. Congratulations to you and your now-healthy baby, I hope you have a long and loving time together.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 1:21 pm Do we have a cooking thread yet? Some major holidays this week and month, who’s doing (or just did) a special holiday recipe? We’re having Easter dinner with the grandparents tomorrow, so I’m going to do a lemon chiffon cake with stabilized whipped cream and strawberries. Found a technique to add marshmallow fluff to the cream to keep it from getting melty. Happy Passover and Happy Easter, and an ongoing blessed Ramadan to those who observe.
M&M Mom* April 16, 2022 at 2:36 pm That sounds delicious! We are trying a new appetizer recipe of asparagus wrapped in prosciutto topped with a piece of brie and then wrapped in puff pastry.
wireknitter* April 16, 2022 at 6:47 pm Someone mentioned a green chile apple pie on a thread a few weeks ago-I’m trying it tomorrow.
green spotted frog* April 16, 2022 at 3:04 pm I made my daughter a gluten-free (almond flour based) sponge cake as a basis for a jelly-roll cake for her birthday. turned out surprisingly well. And perfectly absorbed the juice from the fruit I rolled it up with.
I take tea* April 16, 2022 at 4:18 pm It’s not a special holiday thing, but I did a oatotto (risotto with oat instead) with butternut both in it and roasted on the top and it turned out really good.
PollyQ* April 16, 2022 at 4:21 pm Working on a flourless chocolate cake for 2nd night seder even as we speak!
The OG Sleepless* April 16, 2022 at 6:51 pm I just finished making a cake I haven’t made in years, the lemon mascarpone cake from the June 2003 Epicurious. Tomorrow morning I will make deviled eggs.
Princess Deviant* April 16, 2022 at 8:05 pm I went for dinner at my brother’s on Friday and took a vegan chocolate cake, and it is amazing! The recipe is from Pick Up Limes YouTube channel. It’s the second time I’ve made it, and it’s so so good.
Falling Diphthong* April 17, 2022 at 11:50 am The chocolate olive oil cake from Smitten Kitchen is delicious and hits my target of “would make it this way even if there were no allergies to consider.”
Ali G* April 16, 2022 at 8:50 pm Tomorrow I am making our first meal in the new kitchen!!! The kitchen is over a year in the making (Thanks COVID). Sous vide and reverse seared rib eye with asparagus from the farmer’s market, oven fries and fresh bread. I haven’t cooked a proper meal since January and I am so excited. Hubs also requested wings, so that will be coming too this weekend (we took off Monday and Tuesday to move back into the first floor from the basement).
beentheredonethat* April 16, 2022 at 11:36 pm My job is to make veg plate and dips. I am trying an Italian layered dip and an Asian layered dip. Also a olive oil anchovy garlic preserved lemon shishito pepper slow cooked dip. Food is an adventure
Dark Macadamia* April 17, 2022 at 1:29 am We’re not getting together with anyone for Easter but I decided on a whim yesterday that I want to try focaccia bread art, so I’ll do that in addition to a small, simple ham dinner :)
UKDancer* April 17, 2022 at 5:27 am Nothing particularly celebratory for me this month. But I tried a really good recipe for chicken with raisins and saffron which I enjoyed and will add to my cooking rotation. I always like trying new things at the weekend. I did a nice marinated steak with red pesto earlier in the week as well and that was tasty too. Variety is always a nice thing.
Falling Diphthong* April 17, 2022 at 11:47 am Easter snuck up on me, as someone whose kids are no longer here to hunt for the candy in the morning. We colored Easter eggs and got 2 small chocolate rabbits, and today I made some deviled eggs. (Deb from Smitten Kitchen observed that if you asked someone to eat a half dozen eggs most would say “blurch–not physically possible” but then if you hard boiled them, cut them in half, mashed the insides with mayo and herbs and capers, and restuffed them, suddenly polishing off that many eggs seems pretty easy.) I’ve been cooking a lot of stuff from Carla Lalli Music’s That Sounds So Good. She’s especially good on “what’s a one-dish meal I can make for two people that is very vegetable forward?” recipes, and last night we had the radicchio and endive with walnuts, dates, and parmesan frico. (I’m still adapting to cooking without a teenage athlete to feed.)
Unsure* April 16, 2022 at 2:14 pm I’ve been considering having a child as a single mom by choice. Due to medical issues i can’t bear the child myself. I thought my ex-husband and I were going to have kids but it turned out he’s a lying, manipulative, abusive danger. So here I am about to turn 43… and I think I want a kid. Never was big into dolls or kids growing up and even now I’m mostly meh, but the last few weeks I’ve been actually into the kids I see in the stores. I want a mini-me. I want to have a child who’s got my DNA. I want someone I can teach and see life in a different way. I want someone to pass my things – thoughts, items, property, Etc. I’ve been saving up for surrogacy and have most of it, but then I’ll be broke! I moved during pandemic so haven’t made any friends here yet, and my parents are disabled and unable to help. So I’d need to hire help especially as I won’t be able to physically do it all myself. I know I’ll be the oldest parent there. The reproductive place tells me it’ll take a few years still to get my child due to legalities and vetting sperm and surrogates. I guess.. I’m still not sure. I haven’t done anything that won’t stop the train. But I also haven’t felt fully into this – it’s why my eggs from post-divorce several years ago are still ftozen and i haven’t signed paperwork. I just feel in limbo. I feel pressure to decide ASAP due to my age. Did anyone do something like this? Any thoughts or considerations i should be sure to think through? I know people have kids without this much thought but this is me. It would be an easier choice if I could have my kid myself. And I hate the guy who broke me in the car accident enough.
Swisa* April 16, 2022 at 2:34 pm I have a single friend who had two kids on her own, by choice (through ivf). She was over 40 for both. She has a sister in the area, but other family are a plane ride away. I know it’s hard but I know she loves it (hence the doing it twice).
green spotted frog* April 16, 2022 at 3:01 pm I’m really sorry that you’re broken. I totally get wanting a child who has got your DNA. There will be some connections there. But do keep in mind that genetics is a weird business, and that it could be your kid ends up much more like the father than you want. You may not, of course. But the genetics is a real wild-card for the “mini-me” aspect of things. In any case, you have a lot on your plate, and good luck with it.
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 3:35 pm One thing I think you should consider is whether and how you can accept the kid you get when they do not conform to what you wanted. Because in one way or another, they won’t. Whether “mini me” means looks or temperament, there are no guarantees. And indeed, a child who is exactly like you in temperament can be the most infuriating, because they double your flaws as well as your virtues. What if they think so differently from you that you can’t teach them to think differently? What if they have a disability that means you can’t really teach them at all because they need specialist help to learn anything? What if they reject your worldview because they think it’s just wrong? What if they grow up and don’t want the things you pass down? What about the times when they are just being jerks? Or you catch yourself being a jerk to them? Parenting inevitably brings conflict into your life, because even the most awesome kid has their own ideas and feelings that aren’t going to line up with yours all the time. You need to be emotionally prepared to accept and love a human being who is totally separate from you, flawed, immature, needy in all the most stressful ways, and determined to become independent from you. Parenting is great, I love it, but the “it’s not easy” isn’t just about logistics or finances. A lot of the support you will need from your network is emotional support. If you are all-in on loving this future stranger no matter what, then the logistics can be worked out.
Anonymom* April 16, 2022 at 3:51 pm I’m a (happy) mom, my best friend is an older solo mom by choice (IVF because she had no partner at 43). I totally understand the desire of wanting a bio kid. If I were you, I’d talk to a therapist who has experience with mothers and mothers who used surrogates. You need IMHO to figure out three things 1- do I want a child (as opposed to just feeling lonely and wanting life to have more meaning). 2- can I provide a good enough home to a child. 3- if i can’t have a child, what would I do to make my life better? Start doing that if you can. The less expectations you put on the child, the easier it’ll be. Regarding 1-. Imagine you do have a healthy kid who loves you, but who is very different from you, who doesn’t agree or even doesn’t really want to hear what you have to say. Who doesn’t look like you at all. Who doesn’t care about your stuff. Does this possibility fill you with dread? I don’t know how my kid will turn out, but watching them grow is fascinating and awesome. I don’t just feel I’m investing in the future, I’m loving the process (on the whole, some days just suck obv.). Subquestions of 2- 3- who will help me raise them / be there for me 4- how will I manage to afford it 5- how’s my mental health? Can I cope with being slightly overwhelmed and not in control? 6- can I cope (financially, mentally) if things don’t go as planned (twins, a disabled child, job loss…) If you’re on your own and financially insecure on top of everything, there’s a risk you’ll come to hate your life as a young mother and possibly resent the kid. Babies, even healthy adorable babies, are exhausting even for a young couple. And if, like me, you hadn’t ever taken care of a newborn before having your own, babies make you second guess yourself a lot. You’ll often feel the mom you’ve become is not the mom you wanted to be (and that’s okay, unless it makes you unhappy). The most important thing IMO is to have people around so you have help and also don’t get too much into your own head. You need to feel able to ask for help and support (or pay for it). Raising a baby truly allne Also, can you afford to stay home or work even just part time for the first 4-7 months? Babies need to bond and you need to bond with them too. Surrogacy IMO makes this even more important.
small town* April 16, 2022 at 4:51 pm I hope whatever you choose is successful! Just beware the mini-me thing. My husband and I (brown hair, green and hazel eyes) somehow produced two blond haired blue eyed children. We parents are all science. They are liberal arts. The husband was 43 when the youngest was born so just make sure that you are as healthy as possible to keep up. Good luck!
anonagain* April 16, 2022 at 6:18 pm Ha, yes. My sister and I could not be more different from our parents — or each other! People are always shocked that any of us are related.
Falling Diphthong* April 17, 2022 at 11:29 am This here on the mini me hope. A running family joke was that my husband’s dna contribution was fidgetiness–otherwise the kids look exactly like me. (Over time, we can now see that he also contributed height.) Both of them are really good at history/English etc, things that bored him in school. Privately, he was disappointed that neither of them was motivated for the “help parent fix things” that he recalls as a marker of his childhood. One thing that made me really love him was how he worked to meet the kids where they were. Youngest got really into a sport spouse knew nothing about, so he learned.
pancakes* April 16, 2022 at 5:10 pm “I want a mini-me. I want to have a child who’s got my DNA.” You do realize that sharing your DNA doesn’t mean they’ll want to share your views as well, correct? Or want your belongings? I thoroughly rejected many of my mother’s views on the world—most, really—and feel quite sure I made good choices in doing so. There is so much more to having a good, loving, happy relationship than sharing DNA. Well-adjusted adults make their own choices about how to live their lives, they don’t slavishly replicate their parents’ choices.
Not So NewReader* April 16, 2022 at 8:14 pm The mini-me thing is probably a figure of speech, or I hope it is. I have often wondered if I was that mini-me. Long about age 3 or 4 I epically failed because I grew. The story went downhill after that. Carrying an adult’s DNA can be a big responsibility for a little kid.
Falling Diphthong* April 17, 2022 at 11:34 am My parents passed in the last few years, and I have taken none of their physical belongings. Which I think is a very common feeling for the last few younger generations.
pancakes* April 17, 2022 at 1:05 pm I think so too, but physical belongings are the least of my concerns in this scenario. They’re easier to handle than a stifling, domineering, or narcissistic parent.
Not So NewReader* April 17, 2022 at 2:55 pm Agreed. The insecurity experienced by the Greatest Generation (depression then war) is fading out. And it dissipates more with each subsequent generation. The latest manifestation of this process that I have seen is at tag sales where item originally cost $100 or more can be purchased for a dollar or two. “Stuff” doesn’t matter the way it used to.
Bumblebeee* April 16, 2022 at 5:15 pm I have two kids. Knowing what I now know about parenting I would not do it on my own in my 40s. My oldest child is autistic. I didn’t know he was autistic until he was 10 so spent the first decade of raising him constantly feeling like a failure. I’m so glad I know he’s autistic now, it was such a aha moment. But parenting him takes a lot more extra parenting and financial resources than I had ever anticipated. My son also has learning disabilities and mental health issues. I remember asking his psychiatrist how my son has autism and all his other diagnoses when (1) I had a healthy pregnancy in my early 20s; (2) there is no family history for most of his diagnoses. She told me sometimes….it just happens. If you choose the surrogacy route I hope you have a healthy and happy child. But sometimes – actually, a lot of times – this doesn’t happen. If I had to parent my beautiful special needs child alone I would have lost my sanity long ago. When times get tough my husband and I take turns handling the rough stuff. We can commiserate like no one else can because we live with our kid and know him more intimately than anyone else. I can stay home without worrying about finance because my husband has taken on the breadwinner role. I also add we have LOTS of family support. We have grandparents and relatives living within walking distance. And I have good friends, one of whom also has an autistic child, for emotional support. But I still can’t imagine parenting solo. To me there isn’t an adequate substitute for an actual parenting partner in our situation. I’m sorry that’s probably not the response you were hoping for. Wishing you all the best with whatever you decide.
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 10:22 am Interestingly, I usually hear “no, don’t do it” from married moms who had their kids young, thinking about how hard it was and how much harder it would be doing it alone. I more often hear “yes, do it” from single moms. Take that for what it’s worth! I’m not sure what it means, honestly.
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 5:15 pm I think you should explore this with a therapist. Wanting a mini me and someone to pass stuff onto aren’t exactly screaming reasons to have a kid, especially with no co parent and no family help. It also sounds like you can’t truly afford it. Maybe I’m just cranky having seen how difficult single parent hood has been for a friend of mine. If the kid is sick, she can’t work and doesn’t get paid. And she has some family to help (except for the pandemic).
Ginger Pet Lady* April 16, 2022 at 6:22 pm What if….. the child you get ISN’T a mini me? What if they don’t share your views? What if they don’t want all your stuff? What if they reject what you teach them? Kids are who they are. They are not clay you can mold to be who you want them to be. Have a child if you want a child and want whoever they might be. Do not have a child if you only want a certain kind of child.
Not So NewReader* April 16, 2022 at 8:16 pm Uh. It looks like we have met. Good questions for OP to think about.
sudsy* April 16, 2022 at 7:24 pm As a parent…. these are bad reasons to have a kid. Do you want to completely overhaul your lifestyle, lose sleep for a long time, spend most of your non work waking time tending to a small creature who will whine, puke, poop, scream, cry and want you to play games that most adults find boring for hours (for YEARS), sacrifice your own interests for theirs, devote most of your disposable income their way for 18+ yrs? Are you ready to do all that if your kid is very different from you? Has serious medical needs? Is intellectually disabled? And do that on your own w/o another adult in the house to relieve you? If all that excites you, go for it and if you can afford it. But there are lots of ways to be involved in kids that don’t require a full overhaul of your day to day life for the next 18 years: volunteer, be a big sister, foster, etc. Maybe some of those are right for you instead?
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 10:23 am I mean, the way you phrase it, I’m not sure why anyone would ever want a kid. That seems like a pretty high bar to clear (but I agree on OP’s motivations).
pancakes* April 17, 2022 at 1:08 pm Do you agree that these are things people should think realistically about before having a child? If these seem like overwhelming things to even begin to think about in the abstract that seems like a pretty good cue to keep thinking.
Anonnie* April 16, 2022 at 7:29 pm please, if you are unsure, don’t do it! that’s a recipe for an unhappy kid and an unhappy you. in all cases but especially doing it on your own, you really should feel compelled to do it and it does not sound like you do. if you’re unsure, err on the side of not bringing a new life into that uncertainty. also if you’re broke after the surrogacy, how will you hire help? what if you get sick or lose your job? will you have enough of a cushion to get through? if not, then what? the way you are talking about this makes me worry that you have an unrealistic idea of what parenthood is about, especially that day after day slog of it. having a kid doesn’t have anything to do with how interested you were in dolls growing up and being interested in kids in stores for a few weeks is not something to drive this decision. can you spend some time with kids of friends one on one, maybe take one for a weekend?
Dark Macadamia* April 16, 2022 at 7:31 pm “I’m mostly meh. I guess. I’m still not sure. I haven’t felt fully into this. I feel pressure to decide.” Gently, based on just this post you do not sound like a person who wants to be a parent. It will be sad for you if someday you ARE sure and it’s too late, but it will be much sadder for you AND your child if you rush and regret it.
Swisa* April 17, 2022 at 12:18 am And I recommend the Ghost Ship column by Dear Sugar. It’s short, and lovely, and all about deciding to have a kid. Hugs.
Feeling for you* April 17, 2022 at 1:36 am I think you are brave to be asking these questions. I will offer a slightly different perspective, though it may speak to you. I never wanted kids. I love kids, but just didn’t want any myself. I did not have the drive or need for whatever reason. Luckily the man I married in my 30’s didn’t want kids either. I was fine with all this til I was close to 40 and all of a sudden my biological clock exploded. I went from being certain since I was 10 years old that I didn’t need to be a mom, to sobbing in stores whenever I saw a child. I knew it was hormones but the strength of it was unbelievable. We started talking about having kids — my husband was willing to do it for me even though he really didn’t want kids. All my friends pressured me to do it and told me I would regret not having a kid. Luckily, the “phase” passed, and other than that one excruciating blip in time (which probably lasted six months), I have been very glad I stuck to my original instincts not to have children. I don’t think I would have had the energy or patience to be a good mom, partly because I never really wanted to be one. And 25 years later I do not regret it. Did I miss some experiences I would treasure? Absolutely. But I think that if I had had a child I wasn’t altogether sure I wanted that there would have been a lot of grief for all concerned. I think this is a decision one has to make wholeheartedly or not at all. The stakes are too high. There are no take-backsies. I feel for you, I really do, as someone who went through that “I want one! I need one!” phase. Please find a good therapist to talk this through with, it will help you sort out what you really really want — whether yes or no — and help you to have peace with whatever you decide.
PX* April 17, 2022 at 5:54 am As others have said, making a decision like this under pressure is maybe not the best way. My suggestion would be to try spend some time around kids for the next few months. If you can, make a concerted effort to either find friends with kids and babysit or volunteer or be around children (of multiple ages!) for a while and see how you find the experience. Because its one thing to want kids in the abstract, and another to want kids when you’ve been around them for many hours at a go, when maybe you yourself are tired and cranky and in a bad mood and still need to take care of them. I’d also be very wary of not having a support network around you at all (or having the finances to hire help).
Unsure* April 17, 2022 at 12:29 pm Thanks all for the thoughtful replies. Mostly you all brought up things I have thought of. Yes, “mini-me” is not literal. It’s just what my therapist and I call her/him. I know they may be different. I have been in therapy since I found out about my ex, and I hope the therapy will help me stop the generational dysfunction and I’d be a healthier parent if that’s what I decide. As to finances, my savings will be drained but I have a good job, no worries there. I have spent time around kids thankfully. I have found I’m not big on them being very young but my friends say not to worry- they go on to the next phase soon enough. I know there are plenty of parents who don’t love every phase so I’m not worried about that. I know I’m giving this much more thought than many parents, but I think it’s deserved considering my situation. Thank you!
Emma* April 17, 2022 at 2:49 pm Thank you so much for sharing/updating! It sounds wonderful and very important that you’re thinking deeply about possibly making the most permanently life changing decision a person can make, as everything from your finances, to your time and space, to your emotional and mental self is entirely affected the rest of your life by taking on the responsibility of raising and supporting a child. It is commendable to reflect on and I hope many potential parents do so; I know we did. I recommend talking with your therapist about reframing the term “mini-me” to help distinguish this possible person as having his or her own entire existence, rights, body, identify, needs, personality, growth, and humanity. Sending thoughts of warmth and love for whatever you deem is right for you.
HannahS* April 17, 2022 at 1:13 pm Having children is full of unknowns. I didn’t have a baby knowing exactly what it would be like. No one does. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect to make this decision knowing exactly what it’ll look like and being willing to happily accept the worst possible scenario. I think the only thing that matters is that you want to be a parent more than you want the things you’ll be giving up.
Former Retail Manager* April 17, 2022 at 1:19 pm I’ll be blunt….some of the things you said concern me. “I think I want a kid” and the desire for a “mini-me.” Even if you were having a 100% full biological child with a partner, you cannot control genetics and you really cannot control their personality (i.e. whether they’ll be your mini-me or not) and you have to ask yourself how you’ll feel if you have a child that is the total opposite of you. Will you still embrace them the same way that you would a mini-me or will you be disappointed? Or maybe even resent them? It’s possible for you to give 110% doing all the things you mention….teaching them, sharing your outlook on life, etc. and they may just not be receptive. I say this as someone with a 100% biological child that is EXACTLY like her father (her father and I are opposites), and while I still love her father and we are still together, as a child, she has been extremely challenging to me at every phase of her life. She is now a young adult….I am either stressed, annoyed or exasperated with her on a weekly basis….seriously. We are not close and likely never will be. I’d describe us as oil and water. I’m okay with that, but I went in knowing that this was a strong possibility (call it intuition or whatever). She is super close with her father, and I love that for them, but I would be lying if I said it weren’t a challenge to always feel like the outsider or the afterthought. I have no other children. Under the best of circumstances, 2 parent household, young & fit, everyone being healthy and financially stable, good support network, children are challenging. Throw in the challenges of your scenario and I foresee it being difficult. And this may be an unpopular opinion, but I personally don’t think it’s a great idea to be pursuing children at your age. If you’re 43, let’s say it takes 3 years to “conceive”, now your 46, another year to have the child, 47. You could potentially be retiring as your child is going to college. You mention that you will need to hire help because you can’t physically do it yourself. I don’t know if you just mean regular child care or if you have other health issues, but if you have other health issues, they’re only going to get worse with age, and without a support network, I think you are setting yourself and your potential child up for some very difficult times financially and emotionally. If you truly want to be involved in a child’s life, I’d suggest looking into fostering, especially older children. You may find a child that is more like you than you ever thought possible.
Ali + Nino* April 18, 2022 at 12:09 am “I personally don’t think it’s a great idea to be pursuing children at your age.” I think if OP was 110% sure she wanted a child it would be a different story. But to not be sure, and then pour considerable money, time, and emotion into TRYING to have a child (because let’s not forget that there are no guarantees), sounds like a questionable choice. I have a good friend who married in her late 30s (just hadn’t met the right guy until then) and naturally conceived and had her youngest child at 45. She loves her kid, but she strongly recommends women not wait so long, as it’s very hard, physically, to care for a baby and young child as we get older. Just some food for thought.
MeepMeep02* April 17, 2022 at 4:21 pm My mother’s best friend did exactly that at the exact same age. She’s very happy she did it. I had mine via a sperm bank at 39 and I am also very glad I did it. Things to think about as an older mom: babies don’t sleep well. Your tolerance for sleep deprivation goes way down when you’re older. I have a partner and I still nearly broke down altogether because of that. We went into horrendous credit card debt because I was too zombied-out to work. If you’re on your own, start building your support network now. You will need the kind of friend who will be able to babysit on a moment’s notice. Hired babysitters aren’t the most reliable people out there, as I can tell you from experience. We have had to ask friends for help quite a few times, and we are terribly grateful to them. Something else to think about is that genetics is a funny thing. My kid is biologically mine, and her bio-father is a sperm donor. She’s a 100% carbon copy of him, physically and psychologically. There’s very little of me in her. And it makes no difference at all. This is the kid I remember rocking to sleep when she was a baby. This is the kid who comes running to me to show me cool stuff. This is the kid who makes me “love cards” to show me her love. I can’t imagine my life without her, and I think I would feel exactly the same way if she were adopted. (And really, the more I see her in action, the more I’m glad I didn’t end up with a mini-me; a mini-notme is way more fun to guide and discover).
Renter in a bind* April 16, 2022 at 3:13 pm I’m writing on behalf of me and my four renting neighbors in California who share a five-unit building that’s more than 100 years old, Our landlord is behaving badly and illegally. Although we are all long-time tenants, we have a month-to-month lease so we’re all feeling vulnerable to retaliation. It would be good to hear from others who have been through something comparable. A few days ago, water spontaneously started cascading from a second-story unit through the bedroom ceiling of a downstairs unit. A light fixture filled to the brim with water, the plaster of the ceiling totally collapsed, and water continued flowing into the basement. Fortunately the neighbor who lives there was home, managed to contact the landlord, and got instructions to turn off the water line to the building. The tenant in the apartment above wasn’t even home so she had nothing to do with it. She had minor leaking on the floor of her bathroom but nothing else. Our landlord came to look at the place the same day and the next day. He had a handyman remove the wet carpet and is paying for my neighbor to get a new bed and replacing the ruined carpet. All he has done is replace the toilet in the apartment above the leak, insisting there was a blockage without having any idea of what actually caused the issue. But that’s all. He hired someone to sheetrock over the damaged ceiling that’s still wet, but the affected neighbor said no way. Our landlord didn’t offer to put her up elsewhere, and it’s the other four of us who have given her heaters, fans, and air filters to help. He has done zilch. The air in my neighbor’s place is terrible, triggering my asthma when I spent a few minutes in there. I took photos immediately after it happened so she’s got those that she shared with him. The landlord has done nothing in the basement, either. You’d think he would want to protect his investment in the building by getting inspections for the plumbing, electrical system, etc. but he just says it was all caused by a blockage in the toilet upstairs without having any kind of inspection done. We are banding together to support our neighbor so we’re a unified front. We’ve gotten referrals through friends to an industrial hygienist firm that we’re contacting next week, and it’s likely they will do a free consultation for us. That would give us documentation of what is needed. We’ve contacted our city and county to gather basic information, and will proceed with having the industrial hygienist provide us with a free assessment. We know we could report this to our city’s building inspector. Although we plan to proceed as a unified group, we’re all afraid of getting evicted for moving this forward since we have only a month-to-month lease. Our rent is way below market rate in a very expensive area. Has anyone else been through something comparable and had success without retaliation? Any advice would be great to have.
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 5:00 pm It’s only been a few days. Has she asked him to hat else he plans to do? And his timeline? And I have a great landlord. We had two water events. One was from a leaky toilet, the second, I think it was a washer. Brought our whole kitchen ceiling down. The issues were fixed quickly but I don’t recall him calling in the cavalry with electricians and inspector.
Squeakrad* April 16, 2022 at 7:08 pm I was researching this myself – they are doing some major repairs on our building and I wanted to find out if the landlord was responsible for finding us another place if our place becomes an habitable. Here in California they don’t have any responsibility to find you someplace else to stay. Realize that’s just one piece of your question and doesn’t speak to the landlord‘s general in attentiveness to the problem. Here in San Francisco you can report the building to the building inspector. Now that there is state wide rent control I would double check with the law is about retaliation. Good luck!
Renter in a bind* April 16, 2022 at 11:26 pm I may not have been clear in my post. The ceiling that collapsed had black on the back that looks like it might be mold from a leak over time. My landlord has been very clear that he is done working on this issue and uninterested in doing anything else other than putting sheetrock over the wet ceiling, a recipe for mold. The person who replaced the toilet in the upstairs said it seemed to have nothing to do with the leak. My landlord did sketchy piecemeal work on the foundation with unlicensed workers until another neighbor reported him to the city for not getting permits. He unfortunately can get hostile about maintenance work in general and criticizes tenants for bringing up legitimate issues. For example, for years he’s been ignoring a leak from rain on an external wall in my unit with a visibly bowed ceiling, and broken window frames in at least two units despite our asking for repairs on all this stuff multiple times.
Renter in a bind* April 16, 2022 at 11:29 pm I showed the photos of the collapsed ceiling and fallen pieces to a licensed architect (and a former tenant in the building) and an industrial hygienist, both of whom expressed alarm and a need for remediation by a professional.
Doctors Whom* April 16, 2022 at 7:22 pm I don’t have advice on the landlord front, but your neighbor’s renter’s insurance should have a loss of use provision that gets her put up elsewhere. (If there’s any subrogation to do with the landlord’s insurance, her insurer should be able to handle that.)
Renter in a bind* April 16, 2022 at 11:16 pm Unfortunately, my neighbor doesn’t have renter’s insurance. I’ve had it for my place for years and talked to her about it’s importance, but she hadn’t gotten around to getting it. It’s too bad, because it would have taken us tenants out of the equation.
kina lillet* April 16, 2022 at 11:10 pm Ugh, I’m sorry. If you have a tenants’ union that operates in the city, it might help to contact them to see if they have advice or resources. Your state rep (your rep in state government I mean) might have additional resources or know where you should call.
Apartment Seeker* April 16, 2022 at 3:38 pm What are your favorite websites for finding a home to rent? I’m not able to find the smaller landlords like for a townhouse or a condo, just the big apartment complexes. I consistently see signs about units to rent when I walk around my neighborhood, but have never found most of those places online so I’m wondering if there’s a different popular site to check. I prefer viewing postings to calling so I can screen the places based on pictures, parking, laundry, etc. (when I call, they just want to go straight to the showing which is a waste of time and requires taking time off work to see) Places I currently check: – Zillow – Craigslist – HotPads I’m also finding no one fills out the postings correctly. They put important details in description instead so filters are useless
AvonLady Barksdale* April 16, 2022 at 4:16 pm This is often location-dependent. I used Streeteasy in NYC, but I also found my favorite apartment by calling a number on a sign and looking at it. When I lived in the south, someone recommended a realtor’s site that had rentals. When I moved to DC I used Zillow but also Googled neighborhoods and looked up individual buildings. Private landlords sometimes prefer not to list so they can better vet their tenants, so you might be at cross-purposes here.
VegetarianRaccoon* April 16, 2022 at 5:58 pm Honestly I find most small landlords are listing on Facebook Marketplace around here.
Clisby* April 17, 2022 at 6:51 pm Here, too, along with Zillow. One thing I’ve done is check whether there’s a property management firm (Zillow and FM often tell that) and then go check their website.
Anono-me* April 16, 2022 at 11:31 pm Do any of the people who know have apartments that would work well for you also? If so, maybe reach out to their apartment manager and tell them you are interested . Also, if your friend is a good tenant and knows you well, consider asking your friend to call and vouch for you if they feel comfortable doing so. Apartment managers are just like most everyone else. If a good easy resolution falls into their lap thay are going to take it and move on to the next thing they need to do. I got my last apartment by telling the manager of a building that I liked that I was looking and asking if they would call me the next time one opened up. The manager never bothered to list it, just called me.
Skeeder Jones* April 17, 2022 at 3:42 am I’m also in the process of looking for a home (or duplex/triplex). I’m surprised you aren’t having any luck with Zillow. Although the majority of listings I’m seeing are for apartment complexes, I’m still finding a lot of single-family homes and small apartment complexes. Dumb question, but have you checked your search settings? I’ve also found that when I look at the list of listings, if there’s an apartment complex name, then keep looking but if it says “apartment” but there isn’t a name and the address either doesn’t contain an apartment number, or the apartment number is like “a” or “2” or some small number/letter, then it is more likely to be a duplex. I will say that you are correct, the filters are basically useless beyond the price, beds/baths, and type. I’ve never had any success with Craigslist, but I have tried looking on rent.com as well, but I think they tend to have listings that are really old and already off the market. Good luck, it kind of sucks, right?
Raboot* April 17, 2022 at 4:27 am Zillow owns hotpads, so they should have more or less the same inventory minus some categories like room for rent or maybe some landlords that specifically opt out of some site or another. So you can probably just use whichever one you like more (unless you’re interested in something like room for rent).
Tris Prior* April 17, 2022 at 11:20 am We just found an apartment in an extremely difficult market by posting on the neighborhood Facebook group and asking whether anyone had an apartment with the wants/needs we were looking for. This connected us with a great private landlord who prefers to deal in word of mouth; she didn’t even have the place listed anywhere. My city also has a very active local classifieds Facebook page where private landlords also list apartments, so if your city has something similar, that might be worth checking out.
mreasy* April 17, 2022 at 12:19 pm I have had luck with Craigslist in Brooklyn – just continually refresh and call as soon as you see something you’re into!
Dino* April 17, 2022 at 4:06 pm -Craigslist -Apartments.com -Facebook marketplace I searched solely by price (very low end) and desired room size multiple times in a span of weeks, and I got to know the market pretty well. Spent lots of time on Google Maps, lol. Found my current place (underpriced, not “desirable” but way better than I had before), emailed back and forth about specifics and had a tour set up before it was listed anywhere but the property management site. That’s where I had stumbled across it researching another unit. It took some work to find and it’s not “hip” but it’s within my budget and my needs. And I’m less stressed knowing that most months I can afford to put money in savings. It was worth putting the time in for the research.
Forensic13* April 16, 2022 at 3:38 pm Does anyone have any recommendations for virtual/online writing groups? I’ve joined a “Shut Up and Write” group, which helps me do some set writing but doesn’t involve much social interaction, and my local writing group, but we mainly focus on critiquing works-in-progress. I’m looking for something where I can work out plot ideas with people/ask random questions about content I want in my book. THanks!
RagingADHD* April 16, 2022 at 7:36 pm I haven’t been on NaNoWriMo groups in years, but back in the day they had a mix of online groups and IRL local chapters that were pretty nice and chatty.
Maryn* April 17, 2022 at 2:32 pm Consider AbsoluteWrite.com/forums. (Disclosure: I’m a moderator there, of a single board for my writing genre.) There are boards for brainstorming ideas, places you can seek expertise or reference works for things you need to know for your writing, and many, many social threads, some writing-related, many not. It’s well moderated compared to some, so the usual trolls, insults, etc. don’t happen. You can read most of the board to see if it’s the sort of thing that you want without joining, although some boards have passwords. Maybe I’ll see you there?
Bumblebeee* April 16, 2022 at 5:26 pm I’m doing a massive clean out and decided to get rid of a lot of stuff that’s been sitting around in my home. Any tips about listing and selling things online? Not in US so it’s not ebay.
WellRed* April 16, 2022 at 6:05 pm Different forums for different stuff. In the USA, I used FB marketplace for office furniture and household goods and furniture. For clothes I’ve used Poshmark. For old fashioned electronics like tvs I use next door (and give away for free).
The OG Sleepless* April 16, 2022 at 6:46 pm Facebook Marketplace is really about the easiest to use and seems to have fewer weirdos than Craigslist. You can mark that you’re willing to deliver stuff, or pickup only. Don’t hold things for people; first person to show up with the cash gets it. Mark it sold the moment they leave. Make the selling price a multiple of whatever cash denomination people normally get out of the ATM (in the US it’s $20) so you don’t have to make change. Do research on the scams people run on online sales; r/scams has a ton of information. However, you may find that a whole bunch of your stuff is not as sellable as you might think. Some of it might need to go to a charity shop (if it’s good enough) or a junk removal company. Electronics and appliances can be especially tricky. There is a charity shop near me that has some sort of arrangement with an electronics recycler so I’ve taken a bunch of stuff to them. I learned that dishwashers in particular are hard to get rid of. If you have any large scrap metal or large, useless metallic objects, a salvage yard may pay you a bit for them, and the sensory experience of a salvage yard is not to be missed.
Elizabeth West* April 16, 2022 at 8:06 pm I used Craigslist without too much trouble. It seemed to work best for furniture. FB Marketplace was better for selling other odds and ends.
Sunflower* April 16, 2022 at 8:55 pm FB Marketplace is really the best! If you just want stuff out of your house and don’t care to make a profit, FB also has lots of Buy Nothing groups that people will surely jump at the chance to take your stuff
the cat's ass* April 17, 2022 at 11:13 am Agreed with the buy nothing groups! Also, yard sales can be fun; if there’s a recycling center nearby that can also be helpful! And as much as i try not to contribute to the landfill, some things i tossed.
Elizabeth West* April 17, 2022 at 1:24 pm Yard sales are a lot of work, so if you’re looking to make money, they may not be the best option. Most people who go to them are looking for steep bargains. They’re great if you just want to get rid of stuff, though. It’s amazing what crap people will buy if they think they’re getting a deal!
Marion Ravenwood* April 17, 2022 at 2:13 pm If they have it where you are and you’re more bothered about getting rid of stuff quickly than making a lot of money on it, I’ve found Vinted to be quite good. It’s mostly homewares but they’ve recently branched out into books and homewares as well (at least in the UK).
Jackie* April 16, 2022 at 6:45 pm Has anyone had to deal with army worms ? Our lawn has had them for a few years and we don’t know what to do. They have destroyed a very large portion of the lawn and anytime we call in the “experts” it seems to get worst as whatever is sprayed doesn’t fix the problem.
Candi* April 16, 2022 at 7:49 pm Are they using granular insecticides? Those don’t work well on that type of caterpillar. I’ve heard of good results with Bacillus thuringiensis, but you have to nail the things with it within a day or two of hatching. My dad does freelance gardening, and he believes in a mixed variety of grasses and grass-like plants in the yard to deter pests while maintaining a reasonably uniform look, but a lot of people don’t like the slightly to very patchwork look that can bring. (Using the same species of grass throughout a lawn can leave it more vulnerable.) There’s some interesting Youtube videos on the topic, but some of them just look like long ads for “buy our product”.
Not So NewReader* April 16, 2022 at 8:40 pm There seems to be a lot of info out there. I am a fan of doing as much as possible naturally. They seem to be attracted to certain grasses. You can check with a reputable nursery for grass seed that is not inviting to them. Sites are also pointing out that taking away places to hide so birds can find them and eat them is helpful. This means raking up a little more and it can mean cutting lower branches on trees so air and light can get in. (This prevents many pests/diseases so you are not wasting time doing this.) Since you mentioned using pros, it would be interesting to find out what they have sprayed so far. I’d also check to see if their is any guaranty on their work, so if the pests come back you might get free help. I do agree that there are plenty of buy our products videos, but if you watch a few of them patterns will emerge that might give you clues as to where to go next. I am also a big fan of befriending a local and reputable nursery. Yes, they will sell you products, but the products have to work because they want you to be satisfied with their advice. WHEN you spray is just as important as what you spray or apply. It’s good to have an overall familiarity with the life cycle of a pest so the stuff you apply give you the most effectiveness for the money spent. Several sprays that I looked at talked about the importance of NO rain for a period of a day or so. Here in NY that has been almost impossible. It rained all last year and it looks like we will have another year of rain, so far. But rain can render the spray less or not effective at all. So don’t skip the step about watching the weather forecast.
Southern Girl* April 17, 2022 at 9:45 am We had then last year. Poured soapy water on the ground to verify and they crawled out. Gross! We used granular application from Lowes and it worked fine.
Candi* April 16, 2022 at 7:52 pm Yeah, you know when Alison sent out a call in 2020 for our pets that were helping us work and study from home? (For given definitions of helping.) I sent in my cat Gritz, and he made it to the second post on the topic. Well, Gritz was a senior cat even then, and, well, last month he got really sick and started failing fast. Like in a week going from scrawny old-age mostly healthy to skin and bones and only wanting to lap liquids. So he crossed the rainbow bridge last month.
Ali G* April 16, 2022 at 8:58 pm Aw I am sorry. I have a senior dog and I know that every day we still have him happy and healthy is a blessing that will not last. Hope you are doing OK.
ImOnlyHereForThePoetry* April 16, 2022 at 10:32 pm I’m so sorry. I also submitted a pic of my baby (dog) and he crossed the bridge a year ago. Still miss him.
ThatGirl* April 17, 2022 at 10:02 am My dog was also among them and we said goodbye in December. Definitely miss my sweet furry baby.
mreasy* April 17, 2022 at 9:18 pm I’m so sorry for your loss. You gave him such a happy beloved life.
Ali G* April 16, 2022 at 8:57 pm Garden question for you all. We put in a new shed last year. I knew from the start I wanted to do a flower garden around the shed, but it was too late to do anything by the time it was done, so I waited until this year. For a variety of reasons we didn’t get to prep the ground this year either, but I got a little antsy anyway and ordered a bunch of plants which have been sitting on my back porch and need to go in the ground. They are perennials (a lilac, lots of wild geranium, columbines, asclepias, and the like). So I was thinking I would plant them in the raised bed, since I didn’t have many plans for them this year and then transplant them next year when the garden is ready. Is this a good idea? I think it will work, I just need to know the best time to transplant stuff to make sure they stay alive. Thoughts?
allathian* April 17, 2022 at 3:41 am Perennials are easy. You can transplant them pretty much any time of year, as long as the ground isn’t frozen, which may or may not be a problem in your climate. The most important thing is to ensure that the soil you’re planting them in is moist enough so that you don’t stress the plants unduly as they’ve been transplanted. No matter how careful you are, some roots will break, and the plants will need more watering than usual (but don’t overdo it). I’ve successfully transplanted blooming daffodils from a pot to the ground, and they continued to bloom that year and they’ve flowered again in the three years since. When we moved to our current house, we transplanted a 10 ft lilac bush from our old garden, and luckily we had a trailer and wheelbarrow to transport it in. It’s grown at least another 5 ft in the 10 years since the move, and it flowers beautifully. We’ve also transplanted two blackcurrant bushes and a Lamprocapnos (bleeding heart) successfully. Sally Roth has some great ideas on how to transplant perennials successfully, see the link in the reply when it clears moderation.
allathian* April 17, 2022 at 3:41 am https://www.birdsandblooms.com/gardening/flower-gardening/transplanting-perennials/
Bobina* April 17, 2022 at 6:00 am Depends what you mean by prepping the ground, but as its spring at the moment (assuming Northern hemisphere) then now is basically the best time to be planting things! As allathian said, as long as the ground isnt frozen and you’re not going to be moving them again – plant away. If you mean things like there is going to be more work happening in the garden and they might get damaged (stepped on, machined on etc) then thats the only reason I would hold off on planting them – but even so, perennials should survive regardless of when you plant them, it may just take them longer to get going.
Not So NewReader* April 17, 2022 at 7:05 am It sounds like a good plan to me. The tricky part is actually getting that bed in place- years can fly by and the project stays on the back burner. You can always transplant when the plants are dormant- such as early spring and late fall without any worry. Be sure to keep them watered even though they are dormant. Some plants do slightly better transplanted at a particular time of year. If you are committed to watering, you will probably be okay no matter what. The two times I would not transplant is when the plant is blooming or in the high heat of summer. Those are two times where the plant is working hard to thrive. If we transplant at those times the plant has less energy to re-establish itself- because Flowers! or Thirsty!. That said, I have still moved stuff in bloom or during high heat. I have gotten away with it because I totally baby the plant. I put a basket over it to give it artificial shade, I water it sometimes several times a day. It’s work and that is why it’s preferable to wait. Bonus, waiting gives you the best chance of being successful. Columbine is one of my favs. They are very good at reseeding. I got several plants and I now have columbines popping up all over my yard.
Ali G* April 17, 2022 at 8:13 am Awesome! Thanks you guys! Yes we need to actually build the new garden area (including digging out some rocks and adding some soil), so I can’t plant them where they eventually will go. Fortunately I have a lot of room in the raised bed and they can hang there until we are ready. Today is the perfect day – it’s cool and not real sunny and it’s going to rain tomorrow.
Wildcat* April 17, 2022 at 3:28 am My mom is turning 70 this year and I’m totally stumped on gift ideas. I can come up with small things like tea, books, nice slippers. But I feel like I owe her something big and I just don’t have ideas. How do people get inspired on big gift ideas?
UKDancer* April 17, 2022 at 5:17 am For me I find experiences are sometimes better than actual gifts. By 70 most people have the things they want in my experience. So for one birthday (her 50th I think) Dad and I paid for Mum to have a ride in a hot air balloon. I took Dad to Dublin for his 60th and we had a wonderful weekend away together going to the Guinness museum and pottering around. I was living abroad at the time so saw less of my parents that I wanted and it was lovely to have 3 uninterrupted days with my father so we could really talk. I tend to look at what people are interested in, what they’d like to do and what would make for a wonderful memory. So for her 70th I helped my grandfather arrange to take my Granny to a very nice hotel in Paris and got them really good tickets for the Moulin Rouge. He wasn’t confident booking things online so asked me to help with the logistics. She had a wonderful time because it was her ideal of a perfect holiday.
Lilith* April 17, 2022 at 7:12 am I generally look at what they currently enjoy doing or have (specifically my elderly parents, in this case) and try to find something that’s just a bit nicer or more effort than they would usually buy themselves. For various big birthdays I have: – bought an electronic photo frame, and rounded up all the nice photos that have been texted / emailed / whatsapped over the years onto a USB stick for it – bought an ice cream maker and some recipe books – bought them some of The Great Courses DVD sets on art history and archeology – bought art supplies and a ‘guide to’ book as an idea for a new hobby These have been for people who can’t easily leave the house and aren’t that comfortable with the internet/streaming, which obviously cuts out a lot of options. Listing the above isn’t necessarily helpful to you, but I just wanted you to see the range of the kind of stuff I’ve given that has gone down well!
Not So NewReader* April 17, 2022 at 7:17 am A good friend of mine got into her late 70s and she started saying, “Do NOT by me large or expensive gifts.” There’s lots of reasons why they say this. She’s been given a washer-dryer, a tv, a microwave and many other things. With each thing someone had to come and help her set it up ( too heavy, too techy) and they had to help her learn to use it. It was NO problem for the person doing it, but it was hugely exhausting for her. So this is something to watch out for. I do have older friends who are financially strapped. Their kids give them gifts such as paying for weekly garbage removal for a year. One has a kid who pays for her very nice phone. As the years rolled by mom has gotten her phone updated frequently- and mom loves her phone. Cable tv subscriptions are something else to consider. I have a friend whose grandchild will walk in the house, see a random bill on the counter and just pay it off.
BookMom* April 17, 2022 at 8:44 am Yes, prepaying a year of phone, TV, other services is a great idea! We do this with my grandma and she loves it. (Doesn’t travel anymore and lives in a rural area without splurge entertainment options like theater tickets.).
Betsy Devore, Girl Sleuth* April 17, 2022 at 4:24 pm Mr. Devore gave his mother a new shower head for her birthday one year, but he did set it up for her. Also replaced some tiles and fixed the leak in the toilet, while I scrubbed the bejesus out of the bathroom, especially the shower door. That went over very, very big!
Not A Manager* April 17, 2022 at 8:56 am I second the idea of experiences. My mother really liked to have experiences *with me,* so while my presence wasn’t the actual gift, it was part of it. For one special occasion, I took her to a spa weekend that I would not have chosen for myself, but she loved it and I enjoyed it as well. For another special occasion, I took her on a longer vacation to a nice city with a lot of culture. We stayed at a hotel that read “luxury” to her (and “fusty” to me), and we saw as much theater and went to as many museums as she cared to do. A big part of both of those experiences was that we shared a hotel room and had all our meals together, etc. Obviously the content of this sort of thing depends on one’s budget (for money, time, and devoted attention to the parent), but you can scale it to almost any kind of nice, shared experience.
Wildcat* April 17, 2022 at 2:44 pm Yeah experience gifts are a little tricky because my parents live in a small Midwestern town. So doing stuff in say Chicago, the closest big city, requires them to drive 2 hours.
WellRed* April 17, 2022 at 9:14 am In my family those milestones means a splurge meal out, especially as they are getting into their 70s. No stuff needed.
Ginger Pet Lady* April 17, 2022 at 11:36 am When my husband’s dad turned 70, the three siblings each wrote a list of “70 fun memories of dad” and my husband got all the old family photos scanned. I made the memories and photos into a book, with photos next to the corresponding memories if a photo existed. It was a hit. After he passed just over ten years later, we found it in his nightstand, and it was well worn.
Bluebell* April 17, 2022 at 11:43 am I like the experiences as presents. How healthy is your mom now? If she is still active, and it’s in your budget, is there somewhere special she’d like to travel? Thinking back, I sort of wish I’d done this before my mom became too frail. One other idea is to pay for some sort of subscription or membership she would enjoy. I have given my mom museum memberships that let her bring a friend, and include admission to special exhibits. She has enjoyed that.
Wildcat* April 17, 2022 at 2:45 pm Yeah my mom’s still active but my Dad just beat cancer and the surgery took a lot out of him.
acmx* April 17, 2022 at 12:11 pm For a milestone birthday (75 in our case), my sibling and I had a party at a venue.
Potatoes gonna potate* April 17, 2022 at 5:43 am Weird question but….How do people celebrate their birthdays? is there an unspoken rule that the birthday person cannot plan their own party/event? Is it seen as pathetic or demanding? It seems like everyone I know has friends/spouses/families who plan something for them. And this isn’t just a social media highlights thing it’s IRL that I’ve been seeing most of my life now. I don’t get together with friends often anymore and that’s totally understandable – as adultier adults with careers & kids it gets hard to meet up as much. But they at least they have family/spouses to celebrate with, which I do not, and its not a great feeling. FWIW I have kept my expectations pretty low, no parties or trips or gifts, just a meal and hanging out. Also, does every group have a dynamic that if A doesn’t’ show up then B definitely won’t show up, and if B does not’ show up then that’ll leave C and D who barely know each other, so the entire plan gets chucked? I feel like that’s the dynamic in every friend group I’ve been a part of. The last time I celebrated my birthday was a lunch with friends in 2019. I had a great time the day of but I had such anxiety beforehand that all of them would agree then cancel (that actually did happen to me when I was 14). I want to float the idea this year but i just feel embarrassed to say “hey I want to celebrate my birthday and go out for lunch/dinner” only for them to say no they can’t.
Puffle* April 17, 2022 at 6:31 am I usually organise my own birthday events, though I generally keep it low key out of preference as much as anything- ie cinema and meal or something. I think I’d only think of it as demanding if someone was organising a massive birthday event for themselves and insisting that I attend with no regard for my schedule/ budget- which you’re not, so I think you’re fine.
653-CXK* April 17, 2022 at 6:42 am I usually celebrate my birthday with a week’s vacation and lunch at a good restaurant. When COVID hit in 2020, I delayed the restaurant visit for a couple of days and then had it. In 2021, my brothers were planning to take me to a casino for my 50th birthday, but then I got COVID (since recovered) and with my recovery. the casino celebration got scrapped, so I ended up having lunch delivered on my birthday. The plan then became a celebration of my 50th and my sister in law’s 40th at another restaurant…until an in-law died, so the plan also got scrapped. I did get a Cameo birthday video from the late Gilbert Gottfried, however – very tame compared to what he could have been capable of. “You’re 50 years old – that means you’re half a century old.”
Happy birthday!* April 17, 2022 at 7:21 am When I want to see people, for whatever reason, I reach out to them and say “hey I’d like to get together [for my birthday/to watch the World Cup/to binge the new Bridgerton season], are you free on the 18th?” It’s not embarrassing or demanding or pathetic to want to see your friends. That’s the point of friends. If it’s a party and lots of people can’t make it I reschedule it. There are definitely dynamics within any group of friends but they’re all manageable – if B only shows up if A is invited and you want to spend time with B, why not plan some one on one time and strengthen that friendship? Conversely, if you’re not one on one friends, maybe just invite a different person to your party if A’s not coming? I certainly don’t make my plans based on the idea that most of the people I know are going to do something super rude (accept with the intention of cancelling last minute) and I don’t let my actions or beliefs as an adult be informed by things that happened when I was a young teenager. It sounds like that feeling of “what if I ask and they say no” is bound up in a lot of “what if all my friends don’t really like me” worries and how best to manage that is a question for a therapist not the internet.
Glomarization, Esq.* April 17, 2022 at 8:11 am I figure once a person is past their teen years, it’s really up to them to make their birthday party happen. Whether it’s a gathering at home or we’re meeting somewhere else for drinks or a meal, even for a major “multiple-of-ten” birthday, personally I don’t expect anyone else to plan an event or acknowledgement. For my birthday, ordinarily I’ll make a cake and invite friends over on a Saturday afternoon close to the actual day. I’ll put out something in the crockpot as well as some chips and crudité veggies, plus some spendy cheeses as a treat for myself. Mr. Glomarization helps with the grocery shopping and the housecleaning ahead of time, which I guess counts as “planning” for a gathering that doesn’t take much more work than a social media invite and a $50 budget for beer and party food.
Sloanicota* April 17, 2022 at 8:21 am For this kind of anxiety, the best solution I think is to pick one person who is generally trustworthy (not someone who sometimes flakes at the last minute) who you would be perfectly happy to get drinks / brunch with, just the two of you, if nobody else comes. Find a time/place they’re committed to. Then with everyone else, you can say “Ana and I are headed to X at Y time to grab birthday (whatever), I’d love to have you join us!” If only you and Ana make it, that’s fine! You’re still celebrating! Do not engage in the dynamics of who else knows who else – they’ll sort that out behind your back if they care that much, or they’ll just come happy to see you.
The Other Dawn* April 17, 2022 at 8:47 am I feel once one gets out of their teen years, it’s up to them to plan their own celebration is that’s what they want. I have one friend, though, who has gotten upset a few times because no one asked her to do anything for her birthday. It was along the lines of expressing disappointment and hurt feelings to a couple people. It just didn’t occur to me to ask her to do something. I assumed if she wanted to, she’d say so directly. I had no idea she was upset at all. Normally, my husband takes me out to dinner and that’s about it. If I wanted a party, I’d plan it. Though I admit when I turn 50, which isn’t too far off, I would love it if someone planned something for that. But if not, I’ll survive. If you want to go somewhere or do something, ask. As with planning anything, you always run the risk of people saying no. But that happens when people are adults. They have responsibilities. It doesn’t necessarily mean they don’t want to see you.
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 17, 2022 at 8:47 am is there an unspoken rule that the birthday person cannot plan their own party/event? I think it’s the other way around — once people hit adulthood, the general expectation seems to be that if they want birthday shenanigans, it’s their own responsibility to either plan said shenanigans, or explicitly request that someone else do so for them IF that relationship warrants it. (I would not consider it unreasonable for me to ask my husband to plan a birthday dinner for me if I wanted one, and neither would he, but we’d both agree that I would do a better job of it anyway :P )
WellRed* April 17, 2022 at 9:09 am I think you should float the idea, especially since you can frame it as “it’s been a couple years due to Covid (or whatever) thought it’d be fun to get together for lunch at favorite place.”
RagingADHD* April 17, 2022 at 9:10 am Honestly, I haven’t celebrated birthdays with friends since turning 21, and I can count on one hand the number of friend birthday lunches/parties I’ve been to since. Maybe it’s a generational thing, but after 21 it is just milestone birthdays with family, like my in-laws 80th, or something. And that’s really a family reunion with a target date, as much as it is about the birthday boy.
RagingADHD* April 17, 2022 at 2:19 pm That said, I wouldn’t think it was rude or wierd for someone I knew pretty well to invite me for dinner or drinks or cake or a movie – something we might do in the ordinary course of our friendship – for their birthday. The things that would make it rude or wierd (which have happened and caused me to decline): – Organizing a party for oneself and expecting the invited guests to pay. – Inviting a very large guest list (dozens) of distant acquaintances and professional connections, with kiddie-style birthday themes. -Multiple celebrations for a “birthday week” or “birthday month.” Those would be big nopes. And as for your question about friend dynamics with A and B, no. That doesn’t sound like normal interaction in any group I would stay friends with. I have no problem hanging out with a friend + a new person. How else do you meet people, if not through mutual friends?
allathian* April 17, 2022 at 9:37 am I’ve known most of my current friends since middle or high school, or college. We’re all turning 50 this year, or did so last year. For a friend’s 50th we went to a restaurant last fall, the first time I went to a sit-down restaurant since February 2020. The birthday girl has been on disability since her late 20s, and doesn’t have much money to spend, so our birthday gift to her was to pay for a 3-course meal and drinks. I celebrated my 50th with my parents, sister, and in-laws, with coffee and home-made cake at our house. I haven’t celebrated with my friends yet, maybe we’ll do something together in the summer. I’ve never considered it particularly important to celebrate my birthdays on the day of, at least not since my early teens. This certainly helps with coordinating schedules. When I’m organizing a party at home, I’ll always try and make sure that my best friend can come to the point that I’m willing to postpone it if necessary to make sure she can make it. She does the same for me. When we’ve agreed on a date, I’ll invite my other friends to whatever it is, and then I’ll have fun with those who can and want to come.
Generic Name* April 17, 2022 at 10:30 am I totally threw myself a 40th birthday party. It was basically a party at my house, kids welcome. Folks in my area tend to BYOB, and I provided the food. It’s also totally legit to ask one’s partner to throw a birthday party for them (the action of planning and executing a party being a birthday gift).
Bluebell* April 17, 2022 at 10:46 am I agree with all the folks here saying that after a certain age, you plan your own birthday outing, or designate a good friend. What sometimes happens, that I don’t think is great, is when the birthday person picks the restaurant, invites people, and expects people to pay for them. That works if it’s a group that always does this, but if not, it seems grabby. Pre-covid, my birthday tradition was to take the day off of work, and sometimes invite a few friends to go out with me in the evening. Other times I’ve planned something at my house, or a fun outing.
Filosofickle* April 17, 2022 at 12:22 pm I used to be really sad that no one planned things for me..so I started organizing my own parties/events. It’s so liberating! I get to do exactly what I want to do with who I want to do it. If I’m not in the mood for a party or my friends need more flexibility than a single place/time, I think of couple things I would like to do — museum, wine tasting, dinner. Then I reach out to friends and say “Hey! It’s my birthday soon here are some things I want to do, would you like to join for one of them?” and usually I can match everything up over a week or so. It works great and is actually a helpful mechanism to reconnect. People are more likely to make time for a birthday. (No, every friend group doesn’t have that dynamic.)
Pam* April 17, 2022 at 3:51 pm I like to do multiple Birthday events- lunch with some people, dinner or a walk with others. Iif it happens in my Birthday month, it counts.
mreasy* April 17, 2022 at 12:22 pm I always plan my own birthday because I don’t want to rely on anyone else to manage the details. If we do a dinner out I pay, or I have people over. There is no stigma about planning your own celebration! (If there is in your group of friends they are wayyyy unusually judgmental.)
mreasy* April 17, 2022 at 12:23 pm Corollary, sometimes people will say you shouldn’t celebrate after your 20s or so but…why? If you just want to see your friends, birthdays are a great reason. As long as you aren’t weird if people can’t come it’s just a good time to hang out.
Elizabeth West* April 17, 2022 at 1:28 pm I always plan my own birthday stuff since I’m usually on my own. Plus, my birthday falls on or near Memorial Day Weekend, and most people either go out of town or have family stuff going on. So I take the whole weekend and treat myself to whatever I want to do. Sloanicota has a good suggestion about inviting one person and asking others if they want to join. It’s usually easier to make plans with one other friend than to get a whole group organized; then if they want to come, the more the merrier.
Namenlos* April 17, 2022 at 3:29 pm German perspective: Whoever has the birthday decides what they want to do, plans it, invites guests and pays. People also bring their own birthday cake to work. So expecting somebody else plan a birthday party seems very strange for me. Not valid for parents planning birthday parties for their kids obviously.
HannahS* April 17, 2022 at 3:33 pm Most people I know plan their own stuff, married or not. It’s not at all weird to ask people to celebrate your birthday with you. In fact, you should do that! It’s not embarrassing if people can’t come to your party, it just means that they have other plans, not that they secretly don’t like you or care about you.
Katie* April 17, 2022 at 3:45 pm My husband and I’s birthdays are 5 days apart and falls around Memorial day. Pre-covid we would always throw a big shrimp boil/taco bar party. People knew it was our birthday but there has never an expectation of gifts (and generally we don’t). It was always a good time.
Person from the Resume* April 17, 2022 at 8:25 pm I have lots of single friends. We plan our own parties and usually host them. Married or partnered people might have their partner plan it. Not for birthday parties specifically but if I’m planning something else I also do the thing where I make sure 1 or 2 friends can come and then invite everyone to the event at that date and time. It’s way too hard to coordinate finding a good time for a large group so I keep that small.
Person from the Resume* April 17, 2022 at 8:31 pm This year for my birthday we were still waiting to see if there had been a holiday COVID surge (there wasn’t) so I invited people to my house to hang out outside and ordered take for dinner so it was easy. Before COVID I invited a bunch people to a restaurant midweek where we easily got a big table. Other friends have done backyard hangouts with food.
londonedit* April 19, 2022 at 7:19 am It would seem really weird to me if someone else planned my birthday celebrations. I’ve always planned my own, and so have my friends/family. Last year was my 40th and while I didn’t have the big party I was imagining pre-pandemic, I invited some friends out for dinner and took a week off work where I went on a spa day and went to visit my family. My sister got me an ‘experience’ type of gift, which we did together while I was on holiday there, but that’s the only situation where someone would plan something for me to do. For non-big birthdays I usually just go to the pub with a few friends, maybe take a few days off work and do something fun. I hope I’ll get to have a bigger ‘non-40th’ party at some point in the next couple of years, but at the moment I still wouldn’t want to invite people to a big do because of Covid etc – I wouldn’t want to put pressure on people to go to an event that they might not feel comfortable with.
Koala dreams* April 17, 2022 at 6:35 am I thought the thing where family and friends plan the entire celebration only existed in movies. I’m a fan of the “plan your own party” style of celebration. The birthday person gets the party they want, with the food they want, the activities they want and they get to invite the guests they want. Of course, guests are always free to decline, and if you want your family and friends there you might need to compromise on the celebration to make sure it’s something they’ll enjoy. It’s normal that not everyone can come, and anyway people can get ill or have a family emergency. For dinner, do you really need to be a minimum amount of people? If there’s an activity that requires a certain number of guests, you might want to make a plan B just in case.
No more nest* April 17, 2022 at 10:13 am Does anyone have any advice on finding a roommate after college? It’s really time for me to leave the nest but it’s proving very difficult to find a roommate. Where I live now is far away from where I went to college and where my network of friends are. Not sure if I’m looking in the wrong places or if I’m just being too selective in potential roommates. Matters that further complicate things are: having a cat that can’t live with dogs/cats, needing a quiet room, and being a naturally messy person (though I do try very hard to keep my mess out of the common areas.) It seems like every roommate listing in Facebook in my price range either has other pets, wants no pets, is one out of 6 bedrooms, or is someone who posts that they prioritize cleanliness highly. I’m not sure if I should just start reaching out to folks who would be a good match minus the cleanliness bit. I don’t want to be anyone’s nightmare roommate nor do I want to have a repeat of my own nightmare roommates. I’m also having a bit of anxiety about the whole thing because I like living with my parents and they want me to live here, but I think by 24 and fully employed for quite a while it’s hurting me more than it’s helping me to basically live like a teenager again. They will not even accept any financial contributions to the home which makes me feel like a big leech.
Generic Name* April 17, 2022 at 10:33 am Since living with your parents is mutually enjoyable, what if you saved money so that when you move out, it can be to your own place? Not necessarily buying anything but roommate free. Or is that not attainable in most areas of the country anymore? I’ve been out of my parents house for over 20 years now, and I know things are different.
Red Reader the Adulting Fairy* April 17, 2022 at 8:49 pm Yes – budget as if you were moving out, and put your rent money (plus whatever you think you should be contributing that your parents won’t accept) aside in a savings account.
Falling Diphthong* April 17, 2022 at 10:56 am For the cat one: That’s going to be much easier if you have the apartment (one which allows cats) and look for one or two roommates who don’t have pets but don’t mind living with one. For example, my oldest considered the resident cat a decisive feature of the apartment she just leased… but if she was leasing on her own (a bother) AND getting a place that allows any pets (more bother), then the motivation would likely be to get her own pet. If you’re the one on the lease, it’s harder to assess the quietness and cleanliness of the applicants for the other rooms. Even though matching mess tolerance is important in roommates, I think people tend to overstate their own picking up instincts lest they wind up the expected caretaker of the sea of pizza boxes. And then the people who said “neatness very important” because it sincerely is have no way to distinguish themselves.
WellRed* April 17, 2022 at 11:09 am As someone with a ton of experience looking for roommates, we list no pets, but if the right person with a cat reaches out, we consider it. As far as the cleanliness thing, as long as you aren’t leaving stuff all over the place, or leaving dishes in the sink for days, and you pitch in on cleaning, being a messy person in your room doesn’t need to come up. So don’t overlimit yourself. Treat it like a job search. Be friendly but not needy. Provide some info about yourself on the first reach out (nothing turns me off more than a poorly punctuated “hey, is the room available?” Ya know, write a “cover letter” but for roommates.
WellRed* April 17, 2022 at 11:25 am I want to add: if your messiness extends to your cat, please reconsider moving for now. I’m not dealing with litter and cat hair all over the house so I will ask your routines for that.
Cookie* April 17, 2022 at 1:39 pm One of my post-college roommates thought I wasn’t “clean” enough because the bathroom did not “sparkle” when I was done cleaning it. That’s a little much – it was clean, just not Instagram-worthy. I ended up moving in with my boyfriend to get away from her. I keep a pretty neat house now that I’m much older, but the Bathroom Sparkle Police was too much for young me, and would not even work for me now. Having said that, I lived with a different roommate for a while, and the “keep your mess in your room” idea is cool as long as your mess does not attract bugs, rodents, etc. Hers did; having a “clutter” problem that attracts bugs affects the whole apartment, not just your space. She rarely washed a dish, just let them pile up in her room. She ruined a carpet and I had to pay the landlord for it. So be sure you are really honest about how containable your mess is. If it’s actually not, and abiding by others’ reasonable need for cleanliness would be stressful for you, I agree with the above comment: bank your money now so you can move out of your parents’ place into an apartment by yourself.
fueled by coffee* April 17, 2022 at 1:41 pm re: cleanliness – the overwhelming majority of people want roommates who can keep common areas a reasonable degree of tidy. Nobody cares about the state of your own room unless there’s a hygiene issue. If it’s in your budget, you might want to look for apartments where you’d get your own bathroom, too, so that you only have to worry about keeping the kitchen/living room areas clean. Similarly – look for a place with a dishwasher! For vetting roommates, ask potential roommates how they handle chores/cleaning. If you aren’t intrinsically motivated to clean, you might do better with roommates who have a system for delegating who takes out the trash, how often you wipe down the counters, and so on. And finally… just limit the amount of “stuff” you move into a shared apartment. A lot of my issues with “messy” roommates have come from “gadget” overload which clutters up the countertops and leaves no space for my own food prep – in a small apartment in your 20s, you don’t need a blender AND a waffle iron AND a stand-mixer AND a toaster AND a toaster oven AND a coffee maker AND an electric kettle AND an espresso machine… Figure out what you’ll *actually* use, and leave the rest at your parents’ house until you can afford your own place (ditto other things that are not necessary in a small shared apartment – your grandma’s china, every book you’ve ever owned, 3 heavy winter coats in Florida, and so on).
Generic Name* April 17, 2022 at 2:40 pm Hm, as someone who is looking to downsize after my child graduates high school, I’m super not interested in being free storage for my child’s “overflow” personal items. If one is living on their own, I think it’s reasonable to expect that they will have physical possession of their belongings. I don’t like clutter either, but the answer to a clutter free shared small space isn’t necessarily “well just store it at mom and dad’s”.
fueled by coffee* April 17, 2022 at 3:12 pm Oh, absolutely. But if someone was living at their parents’ house prior to the roommate situation, it’s reasonable to expect that the waffle iron is not *their* stuff.
fposte* April 17, 2022 at 4:12 pm What’s more, some parents will try to solve the “too much kitchen stuff” problem by passing on the blender/instant pot/perfectly good gravy spoons etc. to the departing child who hasn’t yet realized that they have no need for that thing. So it can be wise for the person moving out to resist any entreaty that they will surely *want* the waffle iron.
*daha** April 17, 2022 at 3:59 pm Get the apartment first and advertise for roommates to join you. You get to specify things like “there will be a cat but you can’t bring a pet” and screen applicants for the things that matter to you.
Not A Manager* April 17, 2022 at 5:16 pm I’m curious why you’re basically living like a teenager. If you mean that teenagers get free room and board, okay, but so do some fortunate adults who like living with their parents and whose parents like living with them. “Living like a teenager” to me means not acting like a responsible adult – your parents do your laundry, pick up after you, cook your meals, etc. If that’s the case, this is within your control even if you do live at home rent-free. I suggest that you do what you want to do and not what you think you should do, unless you really do have reason to think that this situation is “hurting you more than it’s helping you.” But otherwise, why not show your appreciation for your parents’ loving generosity by banking your money for your future (this is an incredible gift they are giving you), and be as helpful and supportive and responsible as you can be in their home? Of course, adults living with parents can be tricky, and if they are infantilizing you or bossing you around or not respecting you as an adult, my thoughts are different. But you don’t really suggest any of those things, and you say you like living with them. So again, if all of you like it, and if it’s not actually harming you, I say keep living at home if you want to.
bls412* April 17, 2022 at 1:02 pm Not full-fledged Army here (Army-adjacent, I guess)…but my Army friends are STOKED.
Betsy Devore, Girl Sleuth* April 17, 2022 at 4:14 pm https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/kentucky-man-lawsuit-panic-attack-birthday-party Anyone hear about this? “A Kentucky man secured $450,000 in a lawsuit against his former employer after the company threw a surprise birthday party that caused him to have a panic attack…Berling’s lawyer, Tony Bucher, argued that Berling never exhibited any violent tendencies and that a panic attack does not make someone a danger to others. ‘Basically what the argument was is he was fired for having a panic attack,’ Bucher told Link. ‘They made assumptions that he was dangerous based off of his disability and not off of any evidence that he was violent.'” I’ll remember that the next time someone says “Don’t do anything for my birthday”.
The OG Sleepless* April 17, 2022 at 6:56 pm Oh, dear. Kind of like when they literally scare the gangster to death at the beginning of Get Shorty.
David* April 17, 2022 at 7:21 pm Yeah, I actually just watched a YouTube video about that a couple hours ago! From what I heard in the video, the man specifically asked the company’s office manager that they not throw a birthday party for him because he expected it’d trigger a panic attack. If that’s true, it’s hard not to feel like the company really screwed up and deserves to be held responsible in some fashion. I was thinking while watching the video that it’d be interesting to have seen Alison’s response on this if it were a letter from a reader. Not that there’s much doubt about the conclusion, it’d just be entertaining to read.
L. Ron Jeremy* April 17, 2022 at 10:27 pm And after he had his panic attack, they brought him into HR and derided him for having a panic attack and fired him. The balls they had! Glad he won.
The Dude Abides* April 17, 2022 at 5:47 pm Any recent homebuyers look into a bridge loan in lieu of buying on contingency? We had been discussing moving into a bigger house, and then a potential forever home was listed Friday. Loan application is in, we’re shooting to offer 10 over asking. We don’t want to necessarily have a contingent offer, since there are 2-3 things we would want to do before selling, and need some time to get those done before listing our house should it come to that.
Recent homebuyer* April 17, 2022 at 6:08 pm We tried to get a bridge loan but several places told me they aren’t offering them anymore. Hopefully not an issue for you but mentioning in case you hit the same road bump.