coworkers only ask me about ducks, sending flowers on someone’s first day of work, and more

I’m off for a few days. Here are some past letters that I’m making new again, rather than leaving them to wilt in the archives.

1. People only ask me about the ducks I work with

I’m in the lower-middle level of food service establishment with a couple hundred employees. Last year, I started a side project where I got us a small flock of ducks for fresh eggs and general merriment.

Ever since, folks only ask me about the ducks. I have brief interactions with at least a dozen people a day and 90% of the conversations start with, or completely consist of, “how are the ducks?”

The ducks are darling and entertaining and I love working with them, but they are a small part of my job and not the only interesting thing about my role or personality. I’m getting increasingly cranky and desperate for more diverse conversations. The ducks are always fine. If anything big happened with them, I’d let folks know. They are literally out the back door and anybody could go look at them if they wanted.

Is there any way I can get out of having this same insubstantial conversation 10 times a day for the foreseeable future? Especially since any one person probably won’t ask me about them more than twice a week, so it seems unreasonable to ask an individual to stop? I want to be friendly and gracious but seriously enough with the ducks for one second.

I feel guilty because I really want to ask you for a picture of the ducks.

This is going to be tough because lots of people are going to find it amazing to have ducks at work, and they are going to think of it every time they see you and feel jealous that you work with the ducks and will want to ask about it. It’s easily the biggest conversation starter that people who don’t know you well will remember. (In fact, I bet that the people who know you really well / work with you most closely don’t do this nearly as much, right?) They’re also probably not accounting for the fact that everyone else is asking about the same thing all day long.

You could put up a sign that says, “The ducks are great! They are right out that door if you want to see them” with an arrow and a picture of the ducks … and that will probably cut down on some of the inquiries, although not all.

You could also cheerfully respond to inquiries with, “Everyone asks me about the ducks!” As long as you say it cheerfully and not resentfully, that’s a polite way to nudge more perceptive people into realizing that it’s probably too much.

But that might be the best you can do, unfortunately. You have ducks at work! It’s going to be a thing. (Although it will probably become less of a thing in time, when the novelty has worn off a little.)

Read an update to this letter here (it includes videos of the ducks!).

2019

2. Sending flowers on someone’s first day of work

I work at a smaller organization, and Sansa, who manages our 10-person junior staff, is leaving after working here for the better part of the last decade. She’ll be sorely missed, and the head of the organization has indicated plans to do some kind of sendoff for Sansa. Today a fellow junior staffer named Arya emailed the junior staff saying that she wants to send a flower arrangement to Sansa’s new office on the first day of her new job “instead of a parting gift.” Arya specified that each junior staffer might consider contributing $5-10, but that no one should feel pressured to contribute. Everyone else is on board with the idea.

What do you think of this? If it were me, I wouldn’t really want old coworkers sending me flowers at my new office on Day 1. I’d be nervous about meeting new people, setting the right tone, and getting set up at a new organization. I think I’d be self-conscious if a big flower arrangement from my old coworkers showed up at my desk on my first day. I also just think it would be nicer to give Sansa a gift in person when we’re still in the office together, since realistically many of us probably won’t see her again after she leaves.

If it matters, Sansa is a pretty senior-level woman. I think part of my knee-jerk unease might come from being an early-career woman in a field dominated by older men, and getting flowers at my desk on day 1 feels a bit at odds with the professional image I’d want to project during my first impression. I’m probably overthinking this though. I plan to pitch in and join the gift because it doesn’t seem worth objecting to, but I wanted to know if you have any thoughts about this gift idea.

Yeah, it’s a really nice thought, but a lot of people wouldn’t want flowers on day 1.

For one thing, some people don’t even have a desk on day 1! They’re in training, or moving from one orientation meeting to another, and may not have anywhere to put a vase of flowers. And you really don’t want the distraction on your first day of trying to figure out what to do with a big bouquet.

For another, assuming you do have a desk to put them on, you’re going to get a lot of “flowers already?” comments and will have to explain they’re from your old coworkers, and that’s sweet but also maybe a little odd, and you’d probably rather be focused on other things. It’s also … pulling you back to your old job mentally, at exactly the moment when you want to be focused on the new one.

That said, some people would love and appreciate it! It depends on the person, but it’s the kind of thing where you need to know them well enough to be sure they’d be into it. In this situation, where Arya is junior and Sansa is senior, I don’t think Arya can know, and so a gift in person before Sansa leaves is a better idea.

Read an update to this letter here.

2019

3. Is sex a bad example in a work presentation?

I sometimes present internal “an intro to statistics” seminars at my company. Previously I have based the seminar on the fact that men say they have sex with women much more often than woman say they have sex with men, which is by far the clearest example I have of many obvious and not-so-obvious statistical issues.

No clients attend and the seminars were well received, but I am now less young (and I have read your blog more) and I think this was a bad idea. My question is how bad? Can I never mention the example at all?

Yeah, I’d steer clear of that example (unless, of course, it’s directly relevant to the organization’s work, in which case that’s entirely different). It wasn’t the worst thing in the world and you don’t need to feel mortified or anything like that, but using an example about sex in a work context risks (a) coming across as gratuitous — like you had other good examples but chose this one because Sex! or (b) making people a little uncomfortable. We’re all adults and know people have sex, obviously, but it can feel a little jarring to have it come up in a work presentation. (Plus if you have anyone creepy there, they’ll be all too happy to use it as a lead-in for inappropriate remarks to others, either in the moment or later.)

Read an update to this letter here.

2019

4. My coworker puts dirty tissues in my trash

My coworker often pops into my office to talk about work or whatever. I don’t mind the short conversations, but she has a habit of wiping her nose in my office and throwing out the dirty tissue in my wastebasket. I have tried to move the wastebasket, but that doesn’t seem to work. What should I say?

I am confused by this question and now wondering if I’m a filthy person and didn’t realize it. I would think the trashcan is the precise spot where she should be putting her dirty tissues. I get that it’s your trashcan and not hers, but it’s … for trash. There’s not really anything to say or do here, because she’s not doing anything inappropriate.

If you’re just really squeamish and it’s killing you, I suppose you could say, “Hey, I’m pretty germophobic and I know this might sound silly, but would you mind not throwing your tissues in my trash can?” … but be aware that it’s going to come across as a strange thing about you, not about her (which is why the language there conveys that you realize that.).

2018

{ 25 comments… read them below or add one }

  1. Person from the Resume*

    I with Alison here. I am so baffled by Q4. They throw the tissue in the nearest trash can. And what’s the problem?

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    1. The Prettiest Curse*

      Also, would this OP just prefer it if their colleague let their nose drip all over the place? Because that’s probably less hygienic than wiping your nose and then throwing the tissue away.

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    2. Annie*

      I also have a colleague like this! The trash can just outside his cubicle is *his trash can*, and woe betide the fool who drops trash in it.

      (To be fair: I would be a little salty if I had to smell the remnants of someone’s breakfast burrito all day; asking folks to keep food-adjacent trash in the kitchen/break room trash can seems perfectly reasonable to me. But tissues? Yikes.)

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    3. Falling Diphthong*

      From the header I expected this to be someone who blew their nose elsewhere, but ferried the used tissue to OP’s cubicle because they didn’t want the trash in their own cubicle. And I get how that would feel like the coworker views you as adjacent to their special trash.

      But this just sounds like someone with allergies, throwing their used tissues in the nearest trash can.

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    1. General von Klinkerhoffen*

      The city of York recently had a big ceremony to unveil a memorial statue of a popular duck (Long Boi, RIP) which had to be live streamed so his many fans could pay tribute.

      I may have got some of these details wrong but not the substance.

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  2. nnn*

    When I read the blog post title, I didn’t realize that LW1 was affiliated with the ducks, and thought the problem was going to be co-workers only talking to LW about ducks for no particular reason.

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    1. RCB*

      I too had lots of questions after just reading the headlines and wondered how in the world ducks became the topic of conversation. As with most things, I should have learned by now that if I just shut up and read further the answer is usually on the way…

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  3. RCB*

    You don’t realize just how bad your mental health is until you see two duck videos and it feels like you’ve taken a couple hits of the best drugs possible because you are instantly in an insanely better mood now thanks to those ducks! I don’t know how I missed these Duck Tales (Woo-Ooo!) when they were originally published but I am so happy to have caught it now!

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    1. nnn*

      This sent me looking up the Duck Tales theme on Youtube, and now I’m down a delightful rabbithole of childhood cartoon themes

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  4. Tiara Wearing Princess*

    #1 I neeeeed to know how the ducks are. I mean, it’s been 5 years!

    Seriously tho, I have the biggest smile on my face after watching the Duck videos (in update)

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  5. TheBunny*

    Ducks are my favorite animal. I didn’t know I needed a duck video in my day… but I should have known because…ducks.

    Sorry OP. Of I worked with you all I’d ask you about would be the ducks.

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  6. Literally a Cat*

    Number 4: I always figured that rubbish bin is where I’d throw my dirty tissues into, now on further thinking, hey 2019 until now was a horrible time and I think others are not unreasonable to want me to keep my own nasal secretions to myself, especially asymptomatic carriers are so common. OP is ahead of their time, I think I will change my own practice here.

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    1. Mongrel*

      As long as you’re not actively rooting around in the trash can it’s fine, the tissues trap the nasties.

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  7. Thepuppiesareok*

    Oh man I went back to see the videos of the ducks because, well, ducks. The top comment included ‘happy 2020 everyone.’ If only we’d known…..

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  8. Nodramalama*

    Even reading the original comments for LW4 that for some reason descended into a whole etiquette minefield about whether asking people to take shoes off in a house is unamerican, i still don’t see the problem with using a trash can to throw away trash.

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  9. Alternative Person*

    Hmm. I’m a little torn on LW4, on one hand, a trash can is for trash. On the other, if my co-worker regularly came to my cubicle and ended up wiping their nose and putting the tissue in my trash, I’d be a little weirded out and perhaps worried I was being exposed to a cold or something.

    Maybe they can’t help the runny nose which I get because I get one in certain conditions, but IDK, I’d think it’d be good etiquette to try and wait until the nose flood is over to go by someone’s desk for a chat. I’d also get a bit irritated if they were constantly taking my tissues for it, but the LW doesn’t say either way.

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  10. Never the Twain*

    I do remember #1, but my mind went first for some reason to another legendary anatine post, and I was picturing new starters on their first day eagerly asking “How do I join the duck club?”

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  11. Irish Teacher.*

    While I know it’s way too late to give advice to the LW, I think another example that might work for LW3 is the one about how if you ask a husband and wife (or probably any two people sharing a home) what percentage of the housework they would estimate they do, the sum of both people’s answers will be more than 100%.

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  12. Knitting Cat Lady*

    #4: Any mentions of tissues and trashcans reminds me of the time the coworker on the desk next to me had a cold, ran out of tissues, and started pawing through his trashcan looking for the least used tissues. I just stared at him in horror, held out my 100 count box of tissues, and wailed “JUST SAY SOMETHING!”

    Guy was a 60ish years old engineer. Boy am I glad he left before the pandemic!

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