how to team-build — without trust falls, rope courses, or lengthy off-sites by Alison Green on September 23, 2014 When we hear about team-building, it’s often in the form of cringe-inducing exercises like trust falls, athletic events like rope-climbing that many people dread, or other practices that can easily cross over into violating people’s comfort and even dignity. So what are you to do if you’re a manager looking for a way to build a sense of team on your staff? First, ask yourself whether team-building is really what’s necessary. Managers sometimes turn to team-building to fix communication, cooperation, or morale problems, but it’s rarely the right solution for those kinds of challenges. Those types of problems usually require a solution at the management and systemic level; an afternoon playing paintball or doing ice-breakers isn’t going to mend management challenges. And in fact, introducing team-building in those contexts can actually make the problems worse, because employees will be frustrated that they’re being asked to spend their time on activities that read as frivolous while the real issue goes unaddressed. But if you’re sure that cultivating more of a sense of team and unity is truly what your staff needs, then think about team-building through measures like the following: Creating ways for your team members to get to know each other better, without violating anyone’s privacy or dignity. This means remembering that what’s fun for some people (like public performances or athletic competitions) is misery for others. Look for things that are voluntary and low-key. Creating opportunities for team members to get a deeper understanding of each other’s work. People don’t always have a good sense of what their colleagues are working on or what value they’re bringing to the organization, and increasing that understanding can make people appreciate their team members in new ways. But be careful – the solution to this isn’t to institute lengthy staff meetings where everyone recites a list of what they’re working on (which tends to just put people to sleep or make them antsy to get back to work). Instead, try using your role at the hub to spot opportunities to share information or connect people. Creating ways for team members to have meaningful input into the direction of the team. This doesn’t mean that you should open up every decision to a vote, but rather than you should seek out and truly welcome people’s feedback into strategy and process, as well as whatever problems you’re grappling with at any given time. In fact, many artificial team-building exercises are built around group problem-solving, like having to solve a maze or build a balloon castle; skip the artificial activities and delve as a group in real-world problems your team is facing. Establishing rituals. Any positive, shared experience can become a ritual. For instance, you might start holding optional monthly brown-bags about interesting developments in your field or start doing champagne toasts after major projects finish (with non-alcoholic alternatives available for those who prefer them). And for anything you’re doing with the intention of team-building, ask yourself: Specifically how is this going to help our team get better results? If you can’t answer that, that’s a flag to rethink the plan. I originally published this at Intuit QuickBase’s blog. You may also like:my employee keeps venting to me about his divorce, trust-building activities that actually work, and moremy office loves expensive, physically demanding team-building activitiesour motivational speaker got drunk and went off the rails { 244 comments }
can I suggest a candidate to replace my low-performing boss, job hunting with a fragrance allergy, and more by Alison Green on September 23, 2014 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. Can I suggest a candidate to replace my low-performing boss? Over the past few months, I’ve noticed that I rarely see my boss performing or producing much of anything. As his employee, I was assuming (and hoping) there was a lot going on at a higher level that I was not privy to that was consuming his time. However, last week, while I was working late and he had already left for the day, his boss came into my office and vented about how poorly he is performing, and how frustrated she is with his work. While it was inappropriate, it made me feel better, because it validated my feelings. She later apologized profusely for speaking about it to me. I like my boss personally, and he’s been very easy-to-work-for, so I do not want him to leave and be replaced with someone I do not enjoy working for. But I also happen to have a former colleague who might be looking for a new position, and who I know could do the job at a much more efficient level. I would like to suggest this person have coffee with our director, but I don’t want to cross over a boundary or imply that I think my boss should be fired. Is this inappropriate? Is there a way to do this without seeming presumptuous? (We are too small to have an HR office that I could submit a resume to, so it would have to go directly to the director.) Normally there would be zero way to do this; the position isn’t open, and you’d essentially be saying, “Hey, fire my boss and replace him with someone I like better.” But in this situation, your boss’s boss opened the door to the conversation by complaining to you about how bad his performance is. Given that, you could potentially pull off saying something like, “I feel really awkward about saying this, but in light of our conversation the other day, I know someone with an amazing background in X who’s actually looking for a new role — is there any scenario where it’s not horribly presumptuous for me to put you in touch with her? If I’m being wildly premature in mentioning this, I’ll forget we ever had that conversation, but I wanted to throw it out there.” This is only workable if you have a pretty good rapport with her, but I’m taking the fact that she vented to you as evidence that you do. Also, in doing this, you want your own mental framework to be that talking to others who can do this work well might help your boss’s boss realize that the organization can do so much better, not that she will hire the specific person you suggest– since if she’s going to replace your boss, she should go through a full hiring process and talk to a number of candidates. But sometimes talking to one great person can help push a manager to realize that it’s time to search for a replacement. 2. How can I find out a prospective employer’s policy on fragrances and toxic cleaning products? At my current office job, I am forced to sit in a cloud of air fresheners, cleaning products, and perfume, all of which bother me intensely, aggravate my allergies, and lower my morale. I’ve tried asking the people who sit near my cubicle not to use air fresheners, but one of them refused, and honestly the problem is so pervasive that we would need an across-the-board policy to make a difference. In this big bureaucracy, it’s a lost cause. My question is, when I search for my NEXT job (which will be soon), how can I ensure that I work at an organization that cares about indoor air quality and puts restrictions on air freshener use? This is extremely important to me – I do not want my health to be compromised by my workplace. I simply can’t sit in an office where air fresheners are constantly being sprayed or where my desk is doused in toxic cleaning products. Do I bring this up at the offer stage? How can I suss out an organization’s culture when it comes to air quality, chemicals, and employee health? To me it’s a no-brainer that toxic aerosols should not be sprayed in an office, but most people don’t seem to notice or care. You could certainly raise it at the offer stage, like you would any other health-related accommodation that you wanted to inquire about, saying something like, “I’ve found that air fresheners and some cleaning products (although be more specific here about what types of cleaning products) aggravate my allergies. I know many organizations are taking measures to minimize the use of those. Any chance you could tell me about the working environment in that regard?” However, only a minority of employers have taken this issue on in any meaningful way, and so I think you’re unlikely to find many with a satisfying answer. That means that you might need to look into whether your symptoms are severe enough that you’d be covered under the Americans With Disabilities Act; if they are, that opens up new avenues for addressing this. 3. Applying for jobs right before going on a three-week vacation overseas In the last week, three jobs that really excited me were posted – I’m dying to apply. I live in a small city where jobs in my field aren’t that frequent so I don’t want to pass on them. But I have a three-week overseas holiday coming up that begins three days after the closing date for all three applications. I don’t want to put something in my cover letter that immediately puts me in the do-not-interview pile, but I don’t want people to call me to arrange an interview and get a sorry-I’m-overseas-try-emailing-me voicemail, which seems both a shabby thing to do to HR and likely to look bad or thoughtless. Is there a non-off-putting way to phrase this in a cover letter? I know (having perused similar in your archives) that by not cancelling the trip I’m showing where my priorities are, but it’s a big financial investment for me and I’ve saved up a lot of leave for it. So I guess it is my priority, I just want to mitigate its effects as much as possible! I don’t think it’s so much about “showing where your priorities are” — it would be crazy to cancel a trip just because you might get called for an interview while you’re away. You should proceed with your plans, and no one should find that odd. But yes, it might end up being the case that you’re away during the period when they’re conducting interviews. If it’s a hard-to-fill job or you’re an especially ideal candidate, they might be perfectly willing to wait for you to get back, but you risk that they’ll move forward while you’re away. There’s not really anything you can do about that though; you certainly shouldn’t alter your plans, particularly since you don’t know if they’ll invite you to interview anyway, or whether they’ll even be scheduling the interviews for before you’re back. It does make sense to include a note at the end of your cover letter saying something like, “While I’ll be traveling overseas from DATE to DATE, I’ll be checking email regularly and would love to set up a time to speak for any time after DATE.” You should also make sure that your voicemail is clear about the situation, and that you do check email while you’re away (ideally at least every few days if you want to be able to respond to an employer quickly). 4. I don’t find out my schedule until the night before I’m supposed to work I just got a new job. We have one supervisor who is scheduling the whole animal hospital (boarding, reception, technicians, doctors, retail, etc.) — at least 40 employees. I usually don’t even find out my Sunday-Saturday schedule until Saturday before the Sunday of the coming work week (for example, I found out mid-day on 9/1 what my schedule is for 9/2-9/9). This makes it hard to plan any kind of doctor visits, plans or any errands I need to do. I’m used to knowing my schedule for the next two weeks. The past two days, my supervisor has texted/called employees at almost 11 pm telling then what time they work the next day. I feel like this isn’t right, especially if I don’t know what time I should be in bed or am not able to plan my day because I’m not sure if I work the next day or what time I work until it’s almost midnight. I don’t know what to do or say. I don’t think it’s fair but I can’t seem to see any laws against it. Yeah, it’s not illegal, just really, really bad practice for the reasons you mention. All you can really do is point out the difficulties it causes and ask if there are alternatives. For instance: “Jane, is there any chance of getting our schedules a few days earlier? When I don’t hear until midnight before a day I might need to work, it makes it really hard to plan.” You could also talk to your coworkers about speaking up as a group; presumably everyone else is frustrated by it too, and speaking up as a group can sometimes carry more weight. If that fails, you should at least be able to fight back on the midnight thing — as in, “I need to know no later than X if I’m scheduled to work the next day. I’m often asleep by the time you send the schedule.” 5. When should I mention my visa status? I’m a Canadian citizen in the U.S. on a employer-specific work visa. I’m looking to change jobs but stay in the U.S., and am worried about how to disclose that to prospective employers. At what point in the process should I disclose my visa status? And in what form? I don’t want to be deceitful, but I also don’t want to be dismissed before they have a chance to look at my qualifications. I’ve heard the advice of putting it on my resume at the top as “Current U.S. Visa status: would need sponsorship” but that feels quite brusque. For context, I’m planning on applying to large organizations that I know have some level of sponsorship program. Yep, you should put it on your resume. If an employer is set up to do the work of sponsoring you, it’ll seem normal to them to see it there, and if they’re not, it’s useful (and considerate) to alert them to your status ahead of time so that they don’t start the ball rolling with you only to find that it’s an obstacle. You may also like:everyone is frustrated with my "lazy" coworker, but she's actually hiding a serious illnessmy slacker coworkers make more work for me, constant trainings disrupt my job, and moredo I really have to have career ambition? { 306 comments }
my employer makes you wait 3 years for a raise and is staffed by lunatics by Alison Green on September 22, 2014 A reader writes: I’m just over two years into my first “real” job after grad school. My company (a large nonprofit) has a very strict policy that someone in my position has to be in that position for at least three years before they are eligible for a raise. Then, in order to actually get the raise, I have to submit a packet of documentation from myself, my supervisor, and my project leaders detailing why I deserve this raise and why it’s a good move for the company, which is then reviewed by a committee under HR. I’m already overqualified for this position and have been working far above my level since I started and receive frequent praise. I feel like I’m being required to write a thesis defense for why I deserve to get compensated for the work I’m already doing. Furthermore, I’m very frustrated that when I started, the policy was a minimum of two years, but five months before I hit two years they changed it to three with no exceptions! Is this normal? If not, what’s the normal process for getting a raise? How can I politely ask future interviewers whether they operate on a merit- or longevity-based promotion model? Noooo, this is not normal. First, three years before you can even be considered for a raise? One year is standard in most organizations. Forcing you to stay at the same salary level for three years is a really good way to ensure that your organization isn’t competitive on salary and won’t retain its best people, who will have other, better-paying options. (Also, keeping you at the same salary for three years means that in many cases your buying power will be decreasing during that time, because of inflation.) Then, the documentation is ridiculous. First of all, your company should automatically be revisiting your salary on their own periodically anyway — a hell of a lot more frequently than every three years. And then to create such a significant burden on you to do the work of justifying it? It’s not unreasonable to be expected to present a case for a raise, but that case can usually be made by a quick rundown of how you’re contributing at a higher level than you were when your salary was last set. And then a committee reviews that documentation? A committee? No, it’s not normal. It’s incredibly bizarre and dysfunctional, and it’s got to making your organization less competitive. Here’s what’s normal: Getting an automatic salary review each year. Or being able to make an annual case to your manager (not to a fricking committee) for why you deserve a raise. And having your manager make her own decisions about who on her team deserves a raise and for how much, within the confines of her budget for salaries, sometimes in consultation with her own boss or with HR. (Generally if HR is involved, it’s to advise on the going market rate for the role and how the person’s compensation will fit into the company’s larger salary structure, and to ensure that raises aren’t inadvertently creating problematic pay disparities.) As for asking future employers about it, you can certainly ask something like, “Can you tell me whether annual raises are typical, and what the process for raises is generally like?” (I’d probably do this as part of salary negotiations, rather than earlier in the process.) But I wouldn’t worry too much about encountering this particular model again, because this particular model is bizarre. You may also like:should I use a job offer to get a raise at my current job?will asking for a huge raise make it more likely you'll get the lower number you really want?I asked for a raise but instead they're doing small cost-of-living increases for everyone { 105 comments }
employers, stop labeling millennials by Alison Green on September 22, 2014 If you’ve picked up a newspaper or read a business magazine in the last decade, chances are high that you’ve been bombarded with articles about how the millennial generation requires different treatment at work from everyone who has come before them. In fact, entire consulting businesses have been built on the idea that employers need to learn special techniques in order to effective manage millennial employees, who are alleged have utterly different needs and motivations – and weaknesses – than anyone else. Confounding matters further, Millennial workers are alternately accused of being lazy and driven, highly focused and unfocused, independent and overly dependent, in need of structure and adverse to structure. But contradictory descriptions aside, most of the stereotypes that people attribute to millennials aren’t about what generation they happen to belong to; rather, they’re about being young and inexperienced in the work world. This generation is far from the first group of 20-somethings to find entry-level work boring, or not to understand the concept of paying their professional dues, or to bridle at dress codes and office norms, or to yearn to have more of a voice in office decision-making. It’s not that generational differences don’t exist; of course they do. The influence of trends in things like parenting, pop culture, and education do create common value systems that broadly distinguish people growing up in a particular time from people who grew up at different times. And of course it’s interesting to examine how changing social norms have created different values and approaches in particular demographics. But the bigger factor at play in the Millenials’ work style is about age and experience level. While it’s certainly true that millennials are less likely to have a skillful command of office politics within a hierarchical structure than 48-year-olds do, for example, that was true of 22-year-olds 30 years ago as well. The traits and behaviors commonly attributed to millennials are about being inexperienced, not about being born in the years 1982 to 2004. Moreover, if anything, much of this generation is the precisely the opposite of entitled when it comes to their workplace expectations. They graduated into one of the worst job markets in recent history, often saddled with crippling student loan debt for educations that they were assured would help them pay off that debt quickly, and had to quickly adjust their expectations to a fairly devastating new economic reality. Many studies show that they’ll never catch up, that graduating into that market will permanently depress their lifetime wages. The millennials I talk to are painfully aware of this, not blithely oblivious to such a sobering career reality. Contrary to being entitled, many of them – particularly new grads – are willing to work multiple jobs, long hours, and searching for any employer who will have them. They don’t expect senior level jobs to be handed to them; they’d just like any job, please. And as if that weren’t enough, consider that the popular conception of “millennials” is largely confined to a particular socioeconomic demographic, leaving out huge swaths of people who don’t fit the narrative. What of the millennial blue collar workers, veterans, and first generation college students? What of the millennial single parents? There are plenty of them, and they’re generally ignored by the pop culture mythology about their generation. So where does this leave the employers who are struggling to make sense of the enormous quantity of advice on how best to manage millennials? Managers who buy into generation-based strategies for managing workers are making a significant stumble. Good managers adapt their management according to the needs of the role and the individual employee, and they shouldn’t adopt “millennial management strategies” any more than they should make broad generalizations about managing based on sex, race, or astrological sign. Millennials don’t need or want to be managed “as millennials,” but rather as relatively inexperienced workers who have similar needs to junior-level workers at any time in the last several decades: clear expectations, a reasonable amount of training, meaningful feedback, and employers who treat them as individuals, not representatives of a generation. It’s time to retire the millennial label – and maybe in the process, our whole compulsion to label and define generations at all. I originally published this at U.S. News & World Report. You may also like:my younger employee doesn’t know professional normscoworker trash-talks Millennials, is it better to send a perfect application or apply right away, and moremy new job doesn't give raises -- ever { 386 comments }
wearing school colors when interviewing at a university, recommending a fired employee, and more by Alison Green on September 22, 2014 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. Wearing school colors when interviewing at a university When applying for a classified or administrative position at a university, whether or not you attended that particular university, is it inappropriate to wear a blouse or accessorize with one of the colors of that university? My feeling is that it could go either way, so I would love a professional opinion. I don’t think it’s going to hurt you, but it feels gimmicky to me — and it’s pretty unlikely to help you unless you’re interviewing with someone who judges candidates on the wrong things. You’re better off focusing on showing why you’d excel at the work. (And that goes doubly if the school colors are creamsicle orange or another garish selection.) 2. Should I write a letter of recommendation for an employee I fired? I manage a team of remote workers, and recently my boss and I decided to fire one of my employees. A few days after being fired, the employee contacted my boss asking for a letter of recommendation. My immediate reaction: WHAT? My boss forwarded her email to me, and said he doesn’t want to write her one, but I can if I’d like. Is it common to provide letters of recommendation for fired employees? Is it acceptable and reasonable to tell her no? I don’t think I could possibly write a good letter considering she was fired for very serious performance issues, and only worked at our company for 2.5 months. I’m always more than happy to write letters, but not when the employee is fired. No, it’s not not typical or expected to write recommendation letters (or give positive references) for employees who were fired for cause, not unless they were fired for A but you worked with them long enough and closely enough to honestly say that they’re great at B. It’s completely reasonable to respond to the former employee with something like, “I don’t think we’re in a position to be able to write you a helpful recommendation, especially since we worked with you for such a short period of time.” Also, letters of recommendation aren’t generally that helpful at all for the reasons I explain here (outside of a few fields that still use them, like academia and some parts of law). Most reference checkers want to actually speak to references and don’t care that much about what a letter says. 3. How can we address confusion over our internal transfer process? A concern that comes up consistently on our annual associate opinion surveys is that associates feel confused about the internal job application/transfer process, including lateral moves and promotions. Survey results say that eligibility criteria for job transfer don’t make sense, that they feel these decisions are made unfairly, and that they don’t understand the process all that well in general. I only recently joined the HR team, but I now handle internal job transfers. I am still getting acquainted with the company, but I think these survey results may be something I can address – or at least begin to address. Although I imagine some of the people making these statements on the survey may be venting frustration at not being selected for job transfer, I am also concerned that this is hitting on a real issue. During recent exit interviews, at least two associates have said that dissatisfaction with at least part of the job transfer process has influenced their decision to leave the company. What can we do differently? Each manager announces job transfers during departmental morning meetings, and refers associates to the job postings board in the break room for more details. (Most associates have limited computer access at work due to the nature of the work.) Interested associates can apply by seeing me, and I make sure to offer them a copy of our job transfer criteria at that time. I always ask if they have questions, although they rarely do. Any associates who are ineligible are notified by their current manager of the reason. Associates who interview for the position but are not selected are notified by the hiring manager. I am not sure where the breakdown in understanding and communication is happening. It’s difficult to say from the outside what’s going wrong, but I bet the people who are telling you that there’s a problem could tell you! Or at least, they’ll be able to help you better understand how they’re perceiving things from their side. So make your first step in tackling be seeking to better understand the problem. You can do that by soliciting more information from employees — either the ones who have complained about it (if the responses weren’t anonymous and if you can follow up with people without making them feel like they’re in the spotlight for complaining), or a selection of employees from various parts of the company. Ask them what they think of the process, where the problems are, and how they think it could be handled better, and I bet you’ll get the beginnings of a blueprint to address it. 4. Responding to a fundraising solicitation from a coworker running for office My colleague (and former manager; we aren’t on the same team any more) is running for office. She recently reached out to me directly (in my personal email) and asked for a donation to her campaign. I was already planning to donate (both because I believe in her candidacy, and because I like to support my friends who are doing hard and admirable things), but her direct request still rubbed me the wrong way. The situation is complicated by the fact that our employer is an advocacy organization with a (c)4 partner that supports candidates directly. The office she is running for is directly relevant to our mission and it is likely that the (c)4 is supporting her campaign (but I have no way of knowing that for sure; I don’t work with the (c)4). It all just feels a little murky to me, and I both wish that I wasn’t put a position where I may have had to say a direct, uncomfortable no to a colleague (had I not wanted to donate) and I worry that she’s crossing lines that could get her or our employer in trouble. What do you think? Should I do anything? First, I don’t think you even really have to respond to these sorts of emails if you’d rather not. I tend to think that emails and letters soliciting donations or purchases should be treated as informational messages that don’t require a response — you should see them as “here’s information about an opportunity that you might appreciate knowing about,” but not as direct questions requiring direct answers (in most cases, regardless of the language of the email). On the broader issue of whether you should say something about it being a bad idea to do this in general, depending on your relationship with her, you could say something like: “I think it’s awesome that you’re running and I was glad to be able to donate! I’m a little worried about whether fundraising with staff gets into a murky area with the (c)3 rules on electioneering — have you thought about how to navigate that?” And if you have an especially comfortable relationship with her, you could go further and say, “While I was already planning to donate to your campaign, I can imagine staff feeling awkward about getting fundraising solicitations from a colleague if they weren’t.” 5. My written offer is lower than the verbal offer I was interviewed and hired on the spot. I was offered $12 working retail, but a few days later in orientation the written offer said $11. I didn’t say anything at the time because other people were around, but should I clarify what was verbally said and what was written? Whoa, yes, absolutely. Treat it as a clerical error or a miscommunication that needs to be corrected, and do it immediately, because it will get far harder to fix it the longer you wait. Say something like, “We’d agreed to $12 an hour, but I noticed the paperwork says $11. How do I get this corrected?” You may also like:do I wear too much black at work?do I need to ensure my nipples are never visible through my work clothes?I’m in trouble for what I wore when when my boss made me pick him up for the airport in the middle of the night { 152 comments }
Sunday free-for-all – September 21, 2014 by Alison Green on September 21, 2014 It’s the weekend free-for-all. This comment section is open for any non-work-related discussion you’d like to have with other readers, by popular demand. (This one is truly non-work only; if you have a work question, you can email it to me or post it in the work-related open thread on Fridays.) Have at it. You may also like:is there a best time to send rejection letters?why do so many managers do firings and layoffs at the end of the day?most popular posts of 2018 { 630 comments }
should I reach back out about a job I was rejected for, convincing a friend to job-search, and more by Alison Green on September 20, 2014 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. Should I reach back out about a job I was rejected for? About 6-8 months ago, I went through three rounds of interviews for a job I was really excited about, at a company I would love to work for. I had a really good connection with the HR manager on the phone and over email, and (I thought) with the team members I met during a six-hour in-person interview. The supervisor of the position told me she really liked me as a candidate, but that she usually takes many months to hire the right person. I get that – I have hired for high-level positions and agonized over making the right call. Eventually the HR manager notified me I was being passed over (and at the same time, I saw the position re-posted on several industry sites). It has now been about six months since I was rejected, and the position has been re-posted AGAIN – proving how truly difficult it is for this supervisor to pull the trigger, I guess. I’m still really interested in the job and the company. Would it seem crazy to reapply and try to make a better case for myself? I’ve done some temp work since then that would possibly make me a slightly more attractive candidate. I have an alumni connection with the HR manager; I’m thinking maybe I could test the waters with her more informally first? I wouldn’t apply all over again; you’ve already been through their interview process and, for whatever reason, the hiring manager decided you weren’t quite right. But I don’t think there’s anything wrong with reaching out informally and saying something like, “I noticed the role was still open, and I’d love to reconnect if you think it might be worth our talking again.” I’d reach out to the hiring manager, though, not the HR person, since the hiring manager is the one who’s going to decide if it would make sense to talk again. I’ll caution you against being too hopeful that anything will come of it, since there’s probably a reason why the hiring manager declined to keep you in the running last time. But you never know, and you’ve got nothing to lose by shooting her a quick email. 2. Should I go to this interview? I was contacted via email by an apparel company that found my resume online to come in for an interview for a receptionist/administrative assistant position. I have no idea what the job entails or what the salary is since no description was provided, and it’s located 15 miles away from me. I live in Los Angeles, and traffic here is pure hell. I don’t know if I should go to this interview or not. I don’t want to work someplace where I’m fighting traffic for hours every day. After googling the company, I wasn’t excited. But after months of job hunting, this is the first interview I’ve gotten. But I’m worried about taking off from my current job and going way out to this place just to find out its not what I want or it doesn’t pay enough. Without a job description, it’s really difficult to decide what to do. When you’re contacted about a job you didn’t apply to, it’s totally reasonable to say, “Could you send me a copy of the job description to look at?” I’d even argue that it’s reasonable to ask about the salary — normally too many employers consider that a terrible sin to do an early stage, but where they’ve proactively approached you, I think it’s fine to ask at the same time that you’re asking for more details about the position. 3. The person I recommended for my old position is struggling in the job I recommended someone for my former position when I was promoted. However, they are not thrilled with her. They say she is a slow learner and doesn’t complete assignments unless asked multiple times. I never saw any of this from her when we worked together previously. Should I feel as bad as I do? Is there anything I should do? Assuming you genuinely thought she was great, you don’t have anything to feel bad about. Sometimes a role just isn’t the right fit. I do think that you could say something like, “I’m sorry it’s not going smoothly with Jane. I didn’t see those issues when we worked together previously or I wouldn’t have suggested her for the role.” You might feel like that’s obvious, but putting it out there can make you and the person managing her feel less awkward about the fact that you recommended her. 4. Can my restaurant make me do hostess shifts? I’m a server in a restaurant and hurt my knee outside of work. I was not able to serve, so I did some hostess shifts. My doctor okayed me to go back to work and I gave my general manager the doctor’s note before he made and posted the new schedule. In between that, one of his managers offered me a position as a hostess; she never got back to me on about how much I’d be making. I emailed her and the manager and respectfully declined the position and shifts for that position. Can they now make me do hostess shifts even though I’ve declined their offer? Assuming you’re not under some kind of indentured servant arrangement, they can’t make you do anything. But they can tell you that they’re switching you to hostess work, and they can require it as a condition of your job. At that point, you’d need to decide if you want the job under those circumstances. But as a next step here, if you find yourself being scheduled for hostessing work, I’d just address it head-on, nicely but directly: “I appreciate the chance to try out hostessing, but I’d like to return to server shifts. Will that be okay?” 5. Update from the letter-writer who wanted to convince her friend to job-search Here’s an update from last year’s letter-writer who was wondering how to convince her friend to get a job. (#3 at the link) The friend hadn’t worked for 2+ years since finishing grad school, was being supported by her parents, and had weird ideas, like that “people get jobs because of their charm but not by merit,” and “employers should approach the candidates instead.” It has been more than a year since the question was published. Thanks to your wonderful readers’ comments. Here’s what happened to my friend in the past year. Through her parents’ connections, she got a part-time job proctoring exams at local universities. In addition, she got a gig marking tests at a college. Those jobs were mundane (which I agree), but were better than nothing. Finally, she decided that going for a PhD in her field would be better than working at all those dead-end jobs. She applied to at least a dozen of universities and got accepted in a few of them with funding. She accepted one of the offers and has moved to another town to start her PhD. The acceptance letters were an ego booster: She had never felt so much in demand for years. She has been quite honest with me that the job prospects of the particular field outside of academia are limited. The job prospects in academia are even more limited. Attending PhD is a temporary solution for not working on anything at all. In the past year, I kept my mouth shut about all those “Help Wanted” signs near her home. 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I’m losing out on job offers because I don’t make enough eye contact by Alison Green on September 19, 2014 A reader writes: Ever since I was a little kid, I’ve been told I make eye contact less often than other people do. My dad’s constant refrain from about age 8 onward was “stand up straight and look people in the eye!” I’ve done my best over the years to improve the length/frequency of my eye contact in conversation, and I try to be especially conscious of it during interviews. (The standing up straight took care of itself after I finished being a teenager!) Now, as a 40-year-old adult, it doesn’t seem to affect my personal life adversely at all. None of my friends or acquaintances has ever brought it up to me unsolicited, and on the rare occasion I ask if they notice it I get reactions that are about 50/50 “Oh sure, when you first meet people I kind of notice that” to “Huh. It’s literally never occurred to me.” So I don’t think I’m really that far outside the range of whatever “normal” is for other people. I’m friendly and cheerful, not someone who mumbles and stares at her shoes. I have, however, on two separate occasions been told through the grapevine (friends who passed on anonymous feedback from search committees) that I didn’t get a job because my lack of eye contact made me seem like I was nervous or uncomfortable. Both of these situations were interviews where I actually felt very confident and was intentionally being mindful of remembering to make eye contact more often than I typically do, so it felt especially frustrating to be told that it was the deciding factor. Further detail: these were both jobs in academia that don’t have a public-facing component. I would have been working with other academic colleagues and faculty. I wouldn’t be surprised to be told that the way I make eye contact might bar me from, say, a job in sales, but it was incredibly shocking for the types of jobs I apply for. So how do I deal with this? I know that two jobs lost over the course of a career is not a large number, but it makes me wonder how often this has affected my candidacy and I *haven’t* been told about it. I’m all for continuous improvement and will continue to work on this, but frankly after 30 years of this feedback at home and on the job I sometimes want to just sigh and say, “Look. This is it. This is my face. Problem?” I guess I’m looking for ways to deal emotionally, since I know it’s hardly something I can bring up to employers. And I suppose I hope that this letter might make hiring managers think about how much weight they’re giving to their interpretation of body language, instead of the candidate’s actual skills for the job. Some days I wish I’d been born in Japan, where my style of eye contact would be considered an asset! This is going to be a frustrating answer because I’m going to answer a different question than what you asked, but I don’t think there’s a solution here other than to work on your eye contact. I get that it feels unfair — what does your eye contact have to do with your ability to perform the job, after all? — but interviews aren’t just about identifying the candidate who will perform a particular job best; for many roles, anyone who reaches the interview stage has the basic qualifications to do the job, and the interview is about figuring out who will have the best rapport with the manager and team and be easiest to work with. And hiring managers are making those judgments fairly quickly, because they don’t have much alternative to that. Rightly or wrongly, people do read lack of eye contact as “not comfortable.” And “not comfortable” can be a real rapport killer. It’s understandable that if an interviewer is talking to multiple qualified candidates, they might gravitate toward ones they have good rapport with. And that can be especially true in academia, since once they hire you, you’re likely to be around for a long time, even decades. I’m sure this is quite annoying, because you sound like someone who probably has great rapport with all sorts of people, but interviews are by their nature about quick judgments, and when humans are making quick judgments, things like body language and eye contact count for a lot. It sucks, but it’s true. If you can make yourself stare at the bridge of your interviewer’s nose for an hour (which will look like eye contact), I think that’s the easiest path to solving this. You may also like:when your teenager dates your boss’s son and it goes badmy boss forced me to do a video call -- with eye contact -- while I was drivinghow many times can I ask a networking contact for help? { 140 comments }
open thread – September 19, 2014 by Alison Green on September 19, 2014 It’s the Friday open thread! The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on anything work-related that you want to talk about. If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet, but this is a chance to talk to other readers. You may also like:our new phones have fewer speed dial buttons and everyone is freaking outI'm burned out and overworked and my bosses keep piling more work on mehow do I interrupt my boss in person when I need something? { 1,091 comments }
asking my boss why he’s disengaged, telling a coworker not to use Comic Sans, and more by Alison Green on September 19, 2014 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. My boss seems disengaged — how can I ask what’s up? My manager is in a remote location from me. Recently he has become disengaged. He no longer reaches out or responds to messages on a timely fashion. When I’m able to get him on the phone, I do have his full attention and we have a healthy dialogue. But after the conversation, he goes back to silence. There have been some changes above him that I know he isn’t happy with, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he is looking for a new job. But paranoid me needs to make sure that I’m not the problem. How can I ask him if our relationship is OK without coming off as needy? There are certainly some work relationships where you could just ask that straight-out — as in, “Hey, we hardly ever talk anymore and I’m wondering if I’m the problem.” But if you had that relationship, you’d probably just plunge ahead with that and wouldn’t be asking about it here. Given that, I’m not sure that the right approach is to ask about the relationship. Without more reason to think that you’re the problem, it does risk coming across as overly needy, especially for work. Instead, I’d just name the specific behavior that’s concerning you, give him the benefit of the doubt about the cause (for instance, assume that he’s busy), and then ask if there’s anything you could be doing differently to help the situation. For instance: “Hey Bob, I noticed we’re not as in regular communication as we used to be. I’m guessing that you’re swamped. Is there that I could be doing differently that would be helpful on your side?” All that said, if you know intellectually that you’re not the problem and this is just about assuaging anxiety, then I’d just let it go. (And I’m all about assuaging anxiety, but if it’s truly about you and not about the situation, you’re better off forcing yourself to back off.) 2. My boss sizes me up every day My boss is the HR director at our company and she’s not the easiest person to talk to. You’d think that being in HR, she’d know how to interact with humans but that’s not the case. How do I approach her when it comes to her sizing me up every day? I’m talking about a straight up and down look at me while saying absolutely nothing. Not even a smile, compliment or anything. It’s obvious she doesn’t like what she sees, but how do I go about telling her that it makes me very uncomfortable and puts down my already very low self esteem? Should I email her once about it? Schedule a meeting (probably only to have her yell at me that I’m doing something worthy of her actions)? When I see her do it, it just makes me want to scream in frustration and say “WHAT?!” Well, first, I wouldn’t assume she’s looking you up and down because “she doesn’t like what she sees.” Some people do this just as a way of processing the other person’s presence, or because they’re interested in what people wear. Some people are also oblivious to the fact that their quick scan of other people reads as uncomfortable scrutiny. So you might be reading more into it than what’s there (although maybe not; it’s certainly possible that you’re picking up on a critical vibe). So ideally, I’d let this go if you can stand to. But if not, don’t schedule a meeting or send an email about it; that will introduce way more drama than is needed. If it bugs you enough that you feel you have to address it, the way to handle it is to say something in the moment about the behavior but without accusing her of anything. For instance: “Is something on my outfit? You’re looking me up and down.” It’s the same principle as saying, “Is something on my shirt?” when someone is staring at your chest. (It’s also kind of similar to the answer in #1 above, actually.) 3. Telling a coworker not to use Comic Sans Someone on our partner team used Comic Sans font in an official computer record that many people from all over the business may see. This person is at a higher level than I am, but not in my management chain, and my team is in charge of these records. So I fixed it, and I need to alert him that he really shouldn’t use this font (he’s in India – I have no idea if he has a notion of American typography zeitgeist). How do I phrase this? “Just wanted to let you know that I changed the font in this document from Comic Sans. American culture is rabidly anti-Comic Sans (there are even whole websites devoted to attacking it), so I went with the less controversial Arial. Thought I should flag it for you!” 4. I’m earning less than our team’s contractors I work for a very well-known tech company that routinely makes the “Top Companies to Work For” lists and is, to put it mildly, rolling in the dough. I mention this because our department, traditionally, is ridiculously underpaid. There are 10 of us in this department, all doing the exact same job (except the 2 new hires, who are in contractor status and don’t have the same authorization levels we do), for what I thought was roughly the same pay. Turns out, I was wrong. The contractors are both making more than I do, by a pretty substantial amount, and that’s after the 33% raise I got when transferring from contract to full-time one and a half years ago. (I know that sounds like a lot, but I was just barely scraping by before, and with the health insurance premiums, I’m only coming out about 5% ahead in take-home pay…so I’m still just barely scraping by, but now I have health care.) I don’t really think I can say anything about this, since it’s not anything against me that they happened to go with a contracting firm that apparently had more pull with our employer, but I’m feeling a little undervalued and, if I’m honest, kind of ripped off. I’m also frustrated at myself because I feel like I should have negotiated harder when the time came to convert my contract, but I was told at the time that what they were offering was the absolute top for this position. It’s not really enough to live on without a second income, but I’ve been persisting for the sake of the health insurance. So, is there anything I can reasonably say that won’t make me sound like I’m whining about how life isn’t faaaaaaaiiiiir? It’s pretty normal for contractors to make more. It’s because they don’t get benefits (which can account for a sizable portion of an employee’s costs). It’s not really a useful comparison because of that; your employer presumably pays for you to have paid vacation and sick time, health insurance, retirement contributions, and other benefits that the contractors aren’t getting. 5. Should I let my references know every time I apply for a job? I’m currently applying to jobs very selectively, as in maybe 1-2 jobs per month. Considering that most application systems require that I submit reference contact information at the application stage, how do you suggest I keep my potential references informed that they might receive a reference call? Should I email them every time I list their name on an application or can I assume that once they okay me using them as a reference, I’m good to go for a few months or so? The latter. No need to alert them every time; that’s going to be too many interruptions and too much for them to keep track of (even at only 1-2 month), and statistically speaking, you’re unlikely to be invited to interview for the majority of jobs you apply for, so you’d be loading them up with a bunch of unnecessary information. Plus, even though those application forms are asking for references at the start, those employers are still highly unlikely to CHECK your references until late stages in the process. They’re asking now so they have them on file (which is annoying and silly), but they’re not likely to use them until after you’ve been interviewed. You may also like:I’m still not doing the job I was hired for two years agomy coworker got drunk on a business trip and his hangover was a problem the next daymy boss doesn't want my toddler in the background on work calls, coronavirus cancellations, and more { 258 comments }