meeting for training in a coworker’s home, I don’t like my boss’s comments in my performance review, and more

It’s five short answers to five short questions. Here we go…

1. Is it odd to meet with a coworker in their home for four days of training?

My friend just came to me with a question we’d like you (and your readers) to weigh in on. The friend has a coworker hired 2 months ago, to work remotely from home. Friend has been mentoring the coworker from a distance by phone and email. Today, the friend’s manager asked friend to go to the new coworker’s home for four days for in-person mentoring. Friend would be staying in a hotel, but meeting with the coworker daily in his home (a set aside area).

What do you think of this and are there any advantages/disadvantages you can think of? If it makes a difference, we do have corporate locations near the new employee and the friend that they could meet in.

Yeah, it’s a little weird to spend the whole day in the person’s home. It’s likely to feel oddly intimate. That’s doubly true when there are easy alternatives. Why doesn’t your friend suggest that they make arrangements to work out of the nearby corporate location for those days?

2. When I ask for a raise, can I mention that I’m paying more for taxes and health insurance?

I’ve been at a private non-profit government admin-type corporation for 2 years. This is a close small work environment with little room for upward mobility. I was an intern prior to working here and after earning my masters degree I was hired back. I make a decent salary and great benefits, but nothing to get excited about. After my first year I received 2% COLA increase, then this year after mentioning “I’m prepared to ask for a raise,” I received a 2% COLA and 3% increase in pay.

This is where it gets tricky, because of outside factors: federal taxes, health care costs, etc., I taken notably less money in my paycheck each year, even after both raises. My review is coming up next week and I’m wondering if asking them to reconsider the increase in pay to cover the fact I’m taking in less money is justified?

You can mention it, but it shouldn’t be your sole reason for asking for a raise. It has to be in the context of you deserving a raise because of your outstanding performance. Otherwise, by your logic they’d need to give everyone raises across the board to keep up with taxes and health care changes, and while some companies do that, most don’t. Instead, I’d use this an almost side comment in the broader discussion about why you deserve a higher rate of pay.

3. My boss made subjective comments about me in my performance review

Today I had my performance review with my manager. He gave me the highest rating in the “Delivers Expectations” category. That’s great, but I wasn’t happy with some of his subjective comments in the review. My boss is aware of my desire to transition out of my current analytical role into a commercial position. So, in my review he wrote: “I would have liked to see as much enthusiasm for technical traning and development as she has shown for commercial job shadowing” and “I would prefer that she had more enthusiasm for lab developments and worked more closely with her lab partner but understand that she wishes to move to a more business-focused role. Should such an opportunity arise, she will be missed for her independant contributions to the analytical department.”

Later in the day, I approached him and expressed my concern about these comments. I told him that if this is supposed to be about my performance, what does my desire for a career transition have to do with anything? I did point out the positive things that I do like about the job, but I do have a right to want to progress my career.

He sent me the final copy, so he isn’t sure if the comments can be changed. We don’t even have an HR purson currently to talk to about this. I should have spoken up during the initial meeting.

I’d let this go, immediately. This is not something you should be battling over. It didn’t affect his ratings of your performance, and your manager is allowed to express opinions like this in your review. Trying to micromanage his commentary in this context will make you look like you’re missing the big picture and like you’re unclear on what is and isn’t reasonable for a manager to discuss in his commentary about your work and your role. Drop this, seriously.

4. I flew in for a rude 15-minute interview

Last week, I flew out to an interview for an assistant director position at a really wonderful organization and was really excited about it. They offered to reimburse me for my expenses, which made me think they were somewhat interested in me as a candidate.

However, when I got to the interview, things were not great. When I walked in the room and was introduced to the panel, they barely seemed interested at all, and I had to make the effort to shake everyone’s hand. They did not tell me about the job at all or ask me about myself and went right into reading 5 prepared questions off of a piece of paper. During this, no one would even make eye contact and the director did not speak to me until I asked her a direct question at the end of the interview. I’ve never had an interview like this. It took less than 15 minutes and when I left my confidence was zero.

I was really taken aback because I had driven four hours to the airport and flew three hours for less than 15 minutes. I do not know why they were willing to spend the money to fly me out if they were not even interested in me as a candidate. I know that I can never know what went on behind the scenes, but I feel quite confused about what happened.

When they call or email this week to tell me that I didn’t get the job, is it appropriate to ask for feedback? I would not be rude or bitter about it but I would like to know if I could have done something differently.

Sure, you can absolutely ask for feedback. An organization that interviews like this might not be the sort of organization to give feedback, but it’s entirely reasonable to ask.

As for what happened, one possibility is that it’s an overly bureaucratic organization with overly rigid hiring practices (it’s not unusual in government hiring, for instance, for them to be required to ask everyone the same questions and not deviate from their script — which is insane). Or they might simply be terrible at hiring. (They’re certainly inconsiderate; doing a 15-minute interview after someone flew out for an interview, even at the company’s expense, is rude.) Frankly, I wouldn’t even be so sure that they’re not going to offer you the job; employers who interview this badly can also be employers that hire people who they didn’t speak with for nearly long enough. Be prepared for how you want to handle that if it happens.

5. Asking a coworker to stop chewing ice

I’m writing to ask how I can ask a colleague to stop chew ice. We work in a small confined office and it’s annoying. I’ve tried politely saying “that ice is going to ruin your teeth”, she’s not getting the message. She replies “I’ve been doing this my whole life.” What do I do?

Yeah, you’ve framed it as concern for her, which allows her to assure you that it’s no problem for her. You need to be more direct and let her know that it’s a problem for you. Say something like this: “Jane, I don’t know, but the sound of ice being chewed is like nails on a chalkboard to me. Any way for you to resist it in the office?”

open thread

IMG_0126_2It’s the Friday open thread! (I’m experimenting with weekly open threads this month, to see if they make the number of comments more manageable.)

The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on anything you want to talk about. If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet, but this is a chance to talk to other readers.

my manager got demoted because of me – and now we have to go to a tropical island for team-building

I’m throwing this one out to readers to answer, because it showed up in my in-box at the last minute and is (a) fascinating and (b) time-sensitive. A reader writes:

My crazy manager was just demoted in large part because of me, and now we are going on a team-building trip. What to do?

To give a bit of background, this is my first job. My manager and I initially had a great relationship, but it soured over the course of a year. She essentially gaslighted me, lying to higher-ups about my performance and lying to me about what higher-ups were saying, in hopes of either me quitting or her being able to fire me. She tried turning the team against me (I found out she pulled aside a new hire and told her that I was crazy and a liar and to not trust me). There were many other instances. It got so bad that I would go home and cry every night because I thought I was crazy.

Eventually, when I started talking to the team and the higher-ups directly, it became obvious that she was the problem – the only problem. Over the last year, another a new manager has slowly taken over responsibility to shield us from her, as they have gathered evidence to let her go or make her leave (it is very difficult to fire where I am).

After months of waiting, yesterday she was officially demoted. She is still slightly senior to me by title, but if I receive the promotion I am hoping for, we would be even.

She did not take it well and stormed out of the office. I am glad she is finally out of power. This will give us more freedom to focus on our work instead of pleasing a crazy manager.

I would be happy to never see her again. Except, as a reward for hitting our sales target, we were rewarded with a team trip. The whole point is to be together as a team building exercise. We are supposed to spend all our time together. We leave tomorrow – two days after the demotion. We are flying to a tropical island and I was greatly looking forward to it.

Now, I’m frankly really concerned. My coworker made a joke about the manager (who is the only one who can drive) driving us off a cliff. I don’t think she would take it that far, but I am definitely worried (laxatives in tea, anyone?). It will be stressful and I fully plan on keeping one eye open the whole trip.

The upper management pulled me aside and asked me as a chance to use this to start fresh, so I can’t back out.

However, I think she hates me. I definitely get the sense that she puts the blame on me. She tried to fire me (I still don’t know exactly why, although I have my suspicions). I also think she feels that we are the crazy ones who are being unfair and are lying about her, although everything is documented. She does not think she has done anything wrong, so I am sure this demotion is the latest (and biggest) in a long line of insults that she feels are unwarranted. She is already a bit unhinged, I think. I worry that this could push her over the edge – and my team on our trip!

What should I do?

My initial thought is to make a point of being particularly nice to her (because it’s kind, because you won, because she’s probably in a bad place right now, and because it’s probably in your best interest to)  … but readers, what’s your advice?

Read an update to this letter here.

can I ask about salary before flying out of state for a job interview?

A reader writes:

I have a friend who is going to be traveling out of state for a job interview, over 1,000 miles away. We were discussing whether or not it was appropriate for him to inquire about the salary range before he makes the trip. He thinks it would be inappropriate, but I believe that if he’s going to undertake this very long trip, any rational employer would find it reasonable for him to want to know some more particulars of the job before going down there. Mind you, the company is paying for all of his travel arrangements and accommodations.

Do you think it’s reasonable that he inquire about the salary before traveling?

Sure, that’s reasonable. I’d say something like: “Before I let you pay for my travel, can we touch base on the salary range for this position so we can make sure we’re in the same ballpark?”

Of course, if he does that, he needs to be prepared for them to respond by asking what he’s looking for — and since he asked first, he’d need to answer.

I’d also argue that it’s okay to say something like in certain other situations as well. For instance, if you’re going to need to take time off work to interview, it’s hard for you to do that, and you have reason to worry that you might be in two different ballparks on salary, you could say: “I hope you don’t mind me asking at this stage, but because it’s difficult for me to take time off work to interview, is it possible to give me a sense of the salary range so that we can make sure we’re in the same ballpark before we move forward?”

Obviously, it would be ideal if you could say this before agreeing to any interview, but the annoying reality is that too many employers think it’s a mortal sin for a candidate to raise the salary topic in the early stages of a hiring process (even though employers have no problem asking about it themselves). So I’d typically stick to asking about it only if you can provide some additional context for your request, like “before you fly me out there” or “because it’s tough for me to take time off work.”

Because god forbid that you ask about it simply because you work for money, you filthy, vulgar mercenary.

I found out my coworker is getting laid off

A reader writes:

The company I work for is significantly off budget, and I have known for about a week that a particular manager (who’s basically a peer) is being considered for layoff as the company is looking to make major cuts. I was brought into the conversation because of the effect his separation will have on my responsibilities. My manager wants to be sure I am willing to take on some tasks that are very different from my normal position. Of course, I am okay with that because I would rather have my job. Still, having the information is agonizing! Not because it is considered juicy gossip, but because I feel like I should warn him.

This afternoon I accidentally viewed severance information that confirms it is going to happen. It wasn’t shown to me intentionally, and I did not go looking for it but now I know…and I feel even worse!

This same evening he came to my office and asked if I knew why his schedule was blank after Monday next week. It may have been an oversight or not finished yet, but the rumor mill has been turning lately (not fed by me), and he is making logical assumptions. I wanted so badly to tell him, but I managed to shrug and play stupid (I am generally a terrible liar too).

I know if I were in his position I would want somebody to warn me… Personally, I think he is an arrogant jerk but not at all the type to go postal or jeopardize his reference.

Do I need to stay quiet or should I just tell him? How much damage could fair warning cause?

Well, it could cause some damage to you, so you need to weigh that against your desire to tell him.

Here’s the thing: this is information that you were given on a need-to-know basis with the expectation that you’d keep it confidential. It’s not pleasant to be burdened with this kind of information, but it sounds like it was shared with you as part of necessary planning. Some people do need to be in on the discussion when layoffs are being discussed, and this case you were one of them.

If you violate the confidentiality your company expects you to keep, it’s a pretty big breach. You’ll be saying “When I learn about confidential information through the course of my work, I might not keep it to myself.” That’s a big deal — and even more so if you manage people currently or want to in the future (since managers have to deal with confidential information all the time).

So you need to weigh that against your desire to let him know. Are you willing to jeopardize your professional reputation and future advancement for this guy?

In addition, consider:

* You say you’d want to be warned, but it sounds like he kind of has been warned, by the rumor mill. Not a “this is happening to you on Monday warning,” but a “signs are pointing to a possible layoff, and it could be you” kind of warning. For most people, that’s enough of a warning that they can get a head start on doing all the things people should do in this situation, like not making major purchases and starting to job search.

* If he’s going to find out next week, that’s only a few days away. It’s unlikely that knowing a few days earlier will make this much easier on him. (If you knew that he was planning to take on a new mortgage or buy a boat or something during that time, that might be different. Although even then, you’d still wouldn’t be in a position to outright tell — but you’d be in a position to urge him to wait until those layoff rumors finish shaking out before he takes on major new financial commitments.)

The reality is, sometimes your job can mean that you have to know things you’d rather not know — about people’s performance problems or their spot on a layoff list, the possibility that a whole program will be cut, etc. It’s not pleasant to know this stuff, but sometimes it does come with the territory. When it does, you can certainly use your position to push your employer to handle things as ethically as possible (for instance, not keeping someone’s certain layoff a secret from them for months) — but you can’t generally share confidential information just because you’d feel better if you did, no matter how understandable that feeling might be.*

* assuming we’re not talking about ethical or legal violations, which raises different issues

company is posting job applicants on their website, with contact information

A reader writes:

I recently applied for a job that was posted on the company’s website. I applied electronically using their online form. I noticed my full name and cover letter are now posted on their public website, along with similar information from many other applicants. For those applicants who included contact info such as address or phone number, that has been posted on the website as well.

Screen Shot 2014-01-16 at 6.30.59 PMThere’s a section of their website labeled “Applications” in which you can search by type of position, then click on anyone’s name and see their cover letter. I attached a screen shot. The website doesn’t say anywhere what this is for or provide any explanation for it. 

Can they do this?

Whoa. While they can do this in a legal sense, they very much should not do this. And it’s so unusual that I have to think it’s a mistake — that what you’re seeing is their internal applicant tracking system and they don’t realize that it’s accidentally been made available to the public.

I would contact them and say, “I’m not sure if you’re aware, but a long list of people who have applied for jobs with you is currently displaying on your website, along with applicants’ private contact information and cover letters. It’s showing up at (URL). I suspect this was a technical error, but as one of the applicants whose information is displayed there, is there a way to get it removed?”

my coworker told a customer I didn’t want to do part of my job, I haven’t received my legally mandated backpay, and more

It’s five short answers to five short questions. Here we go…

1. Applying for a job with a company that shares office space with my current employer

I currently work for a company where we share an office/floor with another company that is one of our clients. I was recently asked by the other company’s CEO’s executive assistant to submit my resume for a position opening that is the same as my current position. Is it wrong to apply for this position since I would still see all my old coworkers/boss everyday? The thing is that although in title it is a lateral move, in all other ways, it’s moving up. The salary would be a 50% increase plus health benefits and 401k (which we don’t have). It would be a no brainer if it weren’t for the fact that I’m literally working in the same office.

You should go ahead and apply. If you end up in the other job, it shouldn’t be terribly awkward, as long as your boss isn’t someone who takes resignations personally. People make this kind of move all the time — maybe not within the same office, but certainly jumping to, for instance, a client of their previous company, which keeps them in regular contact with their old coworkers. People are generally going to be happy for you, unless you have a particularly dysfunctional manager.

2. My coworker told a customer I didn’t want to do part of my job

A different take on the question earlier in the week about driving a large vehicle for work:

I recently stepped down from being what my company calls a shuttle driver, which was a major part of my job. It was stressing me out and making my anxiety levels so high that after the new year, I became physically ill and missed 3 days of work in a row (this was last week). So, the reason I stepped down was because it was negatively affecting my health and was making me dread my job every morning. And to be completely honest, the coworker I talk about below was causing huge issues.

Today, a coworker (Jake) said something about me that I thought was unprofessional to a customer. We weren’t even open yet (it was 7:15 and we open at 7:30) and I was in the same room vacuuming when a customer walked in. I immediately stopped and greeted him, but I don’t think he heard me. The customer started talking to the service people, and I moved onto my other cleaning duties since there was a customer, and was in the in-office bathroom when I heard Jake and the customer talking. The customer asked if I was going to be giving him a ride, like usual, and Jake replied with “No, she’s not giving rides anymore, because she doesn’t want to.” First of all, the customer didn’t even ask why, just if. Secondly, I don’t think it’s anyone’s business of why I stepped down, and I’m certainly not okay with this rumor, especially not being spread to customers. Jake has been a problem before, but, whenever I complain to my boss about him being an unprofessional jerk, I’m told “That’s just the way Jake is,” and to “deal with it.”

Am I being too sensitive, or is this just unprofessional? I haven’t told my boss about this yet, because I wanted to see what you had to say about it. I also didn’t really know how to approach the subject without sounding like a crybaby.

It’s absolutely unprofessional, and it will make customers uncomfortable. I’d ask your manager to give people guidance on what to say to customers who ask why you’re no longer driving and/or to correct Jake himself if he’s the only one who needs to hear it. People should probably say something like, “Bob is driving the shuttle now” and if pressed for more information, “We reshuffled some roles, and Jane is no longer driving, but Bob is.”

3. My employer was ordered to pay overtime backpay, but I haven’t received it yet

I work at a small private university. For years, employees were working overtime and not getting paid. Someone eventually caught wind of this and the apparently the Labor Division in my state (NC) was contacted. We were emailed in early November to formally document all overtime in the past 3 years and the next week, sent to the CFO to sign off on the checks we were to receive. We saw the projected amounts of the check from the hours we had worked and everything. We were told we would get our checks “soon.” Some individuals had already received their additional checks for the overtime pay.

It’s now January, and there are no signs of this money and the university is struggling financially to the point they just told us they will furlough staff/faculty for spring break. Thankfully, I’m not in a position that I direly need the money and I’m wise enough not to count money before I have it, but it’s super shady! Especially being that some people have received their money and my department hasn’t. Should I just leave it alone?

If the state labor agency was on this, they should continue to be involved until you’re paid the money you’re owed, so I doubt that the university is just going to ignore this halfway through the process. That said, you could reach out to the state agency to ask about the timeline (and let them know that you haven’t received the backpay yet). Or you could ask whatever department at your university is most likely to know; it’s not an adversarial question when they’ve already made it clear that the money is coming. I’d just say something like, “In November, I was told to expect a check for $X in backpay. So I can plan, can you let me know when I should expect to receive it?”

4. How do I explain that I want to leave my job because they’re illegally firing people?

After 5 months at my new (and great!) job, I’m on the market again, but I don’t know how to phrase my reasons for leaving.

The situation in short: I work in Europe, in a company that is a subsidiary of a US company. A few days ago, we were told that 15 people (~20% of the local people) were being let go, effective immediately. The problem: there is a whole procedure that applies in cases like this (mandated by law) and the management in the US is completely ignoring it and trying to treat us as “at will” employees (there is no such concept in the local law). The second problem: the people being fired are all high performers and come from all layers of the company (so it’s not a matter of firing the highest earners, to save money), so the names seem to have been chosen at random. I have not been let go, but I no longer trust the company, given they are trying to do something illegal and they are firing people with no apparent reason, without considering how this will impact day to day operations. All the remaining employees are updating their resumes and the morale is at an all time low. How do I convey this in an interview without looking like I’m badmouthing the company?

“My company has started having significant layoffs, and I’m looking for a company with more stability.” There’s no reason to get into the legality issues since the layoffs alone are a reasonable explanation.

5. Job-searching when you’re pregnant and on bed rest

I’m currently pregnant with twins and on strict bed rest. I’ve been teleworking but was recently told they were cutting my position. I’ll have no job to go back to after my maternity leave. We had already budgeted for me to take three months of unpaid leave when the babies are born (my employer offers neither short-term disability nor paid leave), and it will be a hardship for us if I’m unemployed for very long after that.

My question is what kinds of job searching activities are useful for me to do now if I won’t be able to start at a new job until June at the earliest, and won’t be able to go to an in-person interview until May? Also, what, if anything, can I say to employers who are worried about how committed an employee with new twins at home might be? (The answer is I have no choice but to be very committed. I currently earn more than half our income.) I’ve already been reaching out to my network and have a few leads. Some jobs (mostly in the federal government) will be so slow moving in the hiring process that I feel fine applying now. Others, mostly in the private sector, may have long or short timelines. I don’t want someone to be frustrated that they wanted to interview me and I say “oh, hey, by the way, I can’t leave my house for another 5-6 months.” But I’d also like to start getting my name out there so I’m not starting from scratch in June (also, I have time on my hands now).

Since I’m no Marissa and therefore no one’s banging down my door to ask me to be CEO of a major tech company, any tips for the unemployed pregnant lady?

I’d start applying for jobs now. If you have to withdraw from some hiring processes because they need someone to start sooner than you can, that’s better than realizing in June that you started searching too late. And many will be on a slow-ish timeline that fits what you need.

If you’re invited for an in-person interview before you’re off bed rest but your sense is that your start date timeline isn’t out of sync with theirs, I’d say something like, “I’m currently on bed rest until X, although I’ll be absolutely fine after that. Would interviewing by phone or Skype be possible at this stage, with a plan for me to come to you in-person in May if there’s mutual interest?”

my coworker wants me to have a sleepover with her

A reader writes:

Do you have any advice on how to decline a social invitation from a coworker when they insist that you pick the date? I recently was caught off guard by a coworker who invited me to a sleepover. (I am cringing just typing this – for context, we are both female and under 25, so I guess she is trying to have a fun “girls’ night in,” but still…) When I asked when it was (so I could politely decline by saying I wasn’t available that evening), she said she would have it whenever I was free.

Other than small talk at meetings or in the lunchroom, I don’t know this coworker very well, but I get the sense she is lonely and trying to make new friends. She has followed up with me several times asking when I would be available, and I am unsure how to politely decline this invitation (and potential others) without hurting her feelings or tarnishing our professional relationship. Any insight you have on how to handle this would be greatly appreciated!

A sleepover invitation is oddly intimate, particularly from someone you haven’t hung out with socially before, and particularly from a coworker. (I admit that I had sleepovers well into my late 20s, but they were more of the “we’re going to be out late so sleep at my house” type, not the “come and sleep at my house just for the joy of a sleepover” type.)

In any case, the good news here is that in a way, sleepovers are easier to decline than if she’d invited you to something else, because you can come up with a reason that isn’t “I don’t want to spend time with you.” For instance:

“I have a thing about sleeping in my own bed.”
“I can’t because of my dog.”
“I can’t sleep with someone else in the room.”
“I’m not really a sleepover person.”
… and so forth.

That said, are you open to spending time with her at all? If so, you could suggest doing something that’s less of a commitment and doesn’t involve pajamas, like grabbing lunch together or getting a drink after work.

If you’re not up for hanging out with her at all, though, you’ll probably eventually need to tell her that, since someone who leaps straight to a sleepover is unlikely  to end her overtures there.

So that brings us back to your broader question of how to turn down an invitation that isn’t attached to a specific date, since these force you to issue a more direct “I don’t want to.” Which is tricky in any situation, but can be especially so in the workplace, because you’re going to continue to see and interact with the person.

I’d look for a way to say that you’re not interested that doesn’t make it about her. For instance:

“My schedule is crazy so it’s hard for me to get together out of work.”
“My free time tends to be taken up with my xylophone lessons.”
“You are awesome, but I try to keep work and non-work separate so that I can disconnect and relax.”

Anyone else been invited to a sleepover by a coworker they don’t know well? I would like to hear about it if so…

Read an update to this letter here.

don’t make these 8 mistakes when negotiating salary

Unless you’re different than 99.3% of the population, you love getting a job offer but hate negotiating salary. The process is fraught with worries that you’ll ask for a number that’s too low or too high, that the employer will try to lowball you in their offer, or that you won’t even know how to evaluate their offer effectively. But salary negotiation doesn’t have to be so tricky. Avoid these eight mistakes, and you’ll be significantly better off than most salary negotiators.

1. Being unprepared. At some point, nearly every employer will ask what salary range you’re looking for, and this could happen as soon as their very first phone call to you. You want to be prepared for this in advance, because if you’re caught off-guard, you risk low-balling yourself or otherwise saying something that will harm you in negotiations later. Be sure to do your homework ahead of time so that you’re ready with an answer when the question comes up.

2. Letting the employer base their offer on your past salary history. Your salary history is no one’s business,and employers are perfectly capable of figuring out what your that work would be worth to them without needing to know what you’ve been paid previously. To avoid having future offers tied to past one, consider declining to discuss your previous salary altogether. If you can’t do that, try pointing out that you took a lower salary previously because you were working for a mission you cared about, or learning new skills that would make you more marketable in the future, or whatever other context you can provide. Instead, keep the focus on what you want to earn now and why you think you’re worth that. But if ignore this piece of advice, don’t make the next mistake on our list.

3. Lying about your past salary. Job seekers sometimes claim that they’re currently earning more than they really are, figuring that that will help them get a higher offer from a new employer. But this can backfire because plenty of employers verify salary history, either by asking to see a recent pay stub or W-2, or by checking with the previous employer directly. And even worse, it’s common to do this after you’ve already accepted a job offer, which means that you risk having the offer pulled over the lie, even after you’ve already accepted it and resigned your previous job.

4. Not verifying your research. While online salary sites can seem like the most obvious way to figure out what to ask for, the reality is that these sites are often unreliable, partly because the job titles they list often represent vastly different scopes of responsibility – and besides, salary can vary widely by geography. Professional associations in your industry might do more reliable salary surveys, but an even better option is to talk to people in your field and bounce figures off of them.

5. Giving a salary range when you’ll be disappointed if you’re offered the lowest end of it. If you give a wide range like “$40,000 to $55,000,” don’t be surprised if you’re offered $40,000, because that’s what you told the employer you’d accept. Instead, choose your range carefully, realizing that the employer may only focus on the lower end of it. (This isn’t too different from candidates who focus only on the high end of a range given by an employer, and are then disappointed when they’re offered the lower end of it.)

6. Playing games. While job search experts used to advise absolutely refusing to name a salary figure first, even if pressed, that advice often doesn’t work today and can help hurt your chances. If an employer is asking you directly what salary range you’re looking for and you categorically refuse to answer, the employer is likely to just move on the next candidate, someone who might be willing to have a more open conversation.

7. Worrying that if you negotiate, the employer will pull the offer entirely. As long as you’re pleasant and professional and aren’t adversarial in your manner, a reasonable employer isn’t going to pull your offer just because you try to negotiate. That’s not to say that they’re aren’t unreasonable employers out there who do pull offers, but it’s rare and the sign of such a dysfunctional employer that you’re typically better off not working with them. Sane employers understand that people negotiate.

8. Not considering factors other than salary. Obviously everyone has a bottom-line number that they won’t go below, but it’s a mistake not to factor in things other than salary. A generous retirement or health care contribution might mean that less of your paycheck needs to go savings or health insurance. Conversely, a job where you’ll be miserable might not be worth even a significant bump in salary.

I originally published this at U.S. News & World Report.

can training be mandatory if it requires a 3-night stay out of town?

A reader writes:

There is a 3-day-long training course I’d like my whole team to attend, and the company has offered to pay in full for the course fees, travel expenses, and the employees’ time. However, as the training is some 200 miles away from the city where the company is based, those attending the training will be unable to return home until the end of the course and will stay overnight in a hotel.

Since the company is paying for everything, including all meals and hotel bills, there has been no objection from most of my team; they see it as a rare opportunity to develop their skills without having to pay for anything themselves and appreciate the company’s investment in their careers. However, a couple of my team have expressed reservations, saying that they would miss out on their social lives during the evenings they are away from home. When asked if they had prior engagements, they said they had nothing planned in advance (the training event is in 4 months’ time, which I thought was plenty of notice for them), but were concerned “in case something comes up” without giving examples of such circumstances.

I have been told by management that my entire team must attend if we’re to receive the funding. Even if employees are compensated in full for their time and the costs for the entire course and living expenses are covered by the company, is it legal to make training mandatory when it’s out of town and requires attendees to be away from home overnight?

It’s not so much a matter of overtime compensation (being exempt, this is an unlikely option anyway), so much as the idea of what they appear to think of as a 3-day job assignment where you’re unable to return home outside of your working hours. Is it unreasonable of me to expect that everyone partakes in this training course, given the 4 months’ notice of the event, that none of my team have dependents or pets to make alternative care arrangements for, and that it’s entirely free?

Honestly, it really is a great course that the rest of us are stoked for and are genuinely appreciative of the company for offering us this opportunity to learn a new skill on their dime, which is why I’m especially bemused at a few people’s reluctance.

What! No, two nights on a one-time business trip is not an unusual or unreasonable expectation, particularly when it sounds like people are never asked to travel otherwise.

I mean, don’t get me wrong — plenty of people dislike having to travel for work and spend the night somewhere other than their own home. And that’s perfectly reasonable; people are allowed not to love business travel. But for most adults, not loving it doesn’t equate to not doing it when it’s requested, especially when it’s a rare request.

And yeah, it’s both legal and reasonable for you to tell them that this is required training and they have to go.

If they hadn’t explained their opposition to you, it would be sensible to inquire into what was behind it, to ensure that there wasn’t real hardship in play (for instance, a medical condition that made it hard for them to travel). But their explanation that they might miss out on social engagements — social engagements that don’t even exist yet! — doesn’t cut it, not by a long shot.

If there’s a business reason for wanting them there, you’re well within your rights — legally, ethically, spiritually, and all else — to tell them it’s part of the job.