my manager wants me to lie, I overheard a new coworker being rude, and more

It’s seven short answers to seven short questions. Here we go…

1. How can we implement a fair PTO system?

My work is not competitive at all when it comes to sick, vacation, or personal days off. They have acknowledged this is something they need to improve and change. Currently, employees do not receive any days until they have been here for 2 years, then the employee receives one week. Employees do accrue time off with hours worked, but it is extremely minimal.

However, now it is a question of how we will implement additional sick, vacation, personal days for brand new employees and be fair to employees whom have been here for a length of time. Any suggestions?

Sure. Decide how many days people will earn per year (you can increase it with years of service or have it remain the same for everyone; just make it competitive with what other employers provide), and have it accrue per pay period. And since you’re correcting a serious company shortcoming, implement it retroactively. So if you get X days per year, and someone has been there three years, put 3X in their PTO accounts right now. If someone is new and has been there for three months (a quarter of the year), put 1/4 of X in their PTO account right now. Then keep it accruing moving forward.

And start this immediately. Giving people no time off until two years is horrible.

2. My manager wants me to lie to the state unemployment agency

I am an HR rep and I have a ridiculous situation I must deal with. My manager is asking me to lie about the reason a previous employee was fired, in order to ensure they get unemployment benefits. Long story short, a coworker was fired for repeated poor job performance. This is as legit of a firing as I can imagine and this employee was absolutely horrible at their job. I will not lie and really need advice on how to handle this discussion with my manager. This employee would get unemployment after a penalty period and has already received plenty by way of severance (company was not required but did because of longevity) and vacation payout. I’m actually pretty furious that this has even been brought to me. I really wanted to paint a whole picture.

It’s pretty reasonable to say to your manager, “I’m not comfortable lying on a government form. All we can do is present the truth and let the state unemployment agency make their own determination.” (And actually, you might point out that this person is likely to receive unemployment benefits anyway; people usually do, unless they were fired for misconduct — as opposed to incompetence, as sounds like the case here.) If your manager pushes you to lie anyway, then I’d suggest telling her that you don’t think you can ethically do that and if she requires the form to be filled out that way, you need to recuse yourself from being involved in it. Keep using the words “lying on a government form,” because that’s what she’s asking you to do, and you might need to make sure she realizes it.

3. Should I mention the nastiness I overheard from a new coworker?

Earlier this morning, I heard one coworker talking to another. The second coworker’s desk is right next to mine, and I’m pretty sure others could hear this conversation as well. She referenced an interview she had for an internal promotion, and at first I was happy for her. She’s always very nice and while she hasn’t been here very long (three months), she seems to fit in well with the culture. I have no idea if she’s qualified for this promotion. We work in very separate departments, so I only see her in passing. Anyway, she went on to say that she really didn’t care about the work she was doing currently, which is concerning because she works directly with our customers. I think this may be explained by the fact that she said she wasn’t feeling well and therefore maybe she just didn’t care today, which I understand. However, she then went on to say something nasty about another coworker with whom she works closely. It wasn’t terribly offensive, but definitely inappropriate.

Should I say something to someone, considering her promotion consideration? My first thought was that it’s Not My Business, and I should stay out of it. I thought I’d ask anyway.

I would, particularly if you have a good relationship with her manager or the hiring manager for the new position, but then I have made a career of nosiness. But if I were either of those managers, I’d genuinely appreciate hearing a discreet “Hey, I was taken aback when I overheard this and since she mentioned she’s being considered for Promotion X, I thought I’d mention it to you. Now that I’ve done that, I’m going to wipe it from my mind.” But I suspect 99% of people out there will tell you not to say anything, on the grounds that it’s not your business or that you might have just caught her in a bad but uncharacteristic moment. (Which is possible, but in my experience, someone making comments like that after only three months on the job is nearly always capital-T Trouble.)

4. Was this role really put on hold?

I applied for a senior administrator/office manager role recently and happily the recruiters contacted me to say that I have a very strong CV and they would like to call me to discuss the role further. I spoke to a really nice lady from the recruitment company who asked me some very detailed questions to establish that I had the relevant experience and to explain the role fully. Following our conversation, she emailed me the same list of questions that she had asked me in our telephone conversation. I replied to the questions as requested – she then asked me to tailor my CV more specifically to the role and asked if she could send it on to her client. I sent the revised CV to the recruiter, and she emailed me to say it was perfect and that she had sent it on to her client and was hoping to hear back within a couple of days regarding interviews.

A week later, I still hadn’t heard anything back so I emailed the recruiter and received a reply a few hours later apologising for the delay in getting back to me – she had apparently been trying to contact her client and had only received a response by email to say that the role is on hold and that they wouldn’t be proceeding with any of her candidates. The recruiter thinks that they probably went with an internal candidate – but that doesn’t make any sense to me. Why would they bother using an agency and wasting their time if they had a great internal candidate? I would really appreciate your take on this .

I don’t know why your recruiter is assuming that “the role is on hold” is a lie; if they went with an internal candidate, the employer would have likely just said so. But in answer to your question, people often use recruiters when they have a strong internal candidate, for the same reason they do job postings in that case too: because they want to see the full pool of candidates before making a decision (or because they have internal policies that require them to).

(Also, I suspect that recruiter is … not the cream of the crop. Asking you questions over the phone and then emailing you those exact same questions for you to answer again? No.)

5. Can an employer make you fill in for a higher-paid position without raising your pay rate?

A few coworkers and i would like to know if and employer can make you fill in for someone in a position that has a higher pay yet reman at your current pay? If so how long? A year? A month? A day? Or even an hour?

Yes — an hour, a day, a month, a year, or even a decade! There is no law requiring employers to increase your pay, ever (aside from minimum wage laws). If you would like more pay, however, you can certainly try to negotiate that, by making a case based on the value of your work.

6. Should I mention that I know the CEO personally?

I applied for a position that requires a little bit more experience than I have (I’m a recent college grad) but using your tips on cover letters, I was able to score an interview. I am confident that I can excel in this job but I am still afraid that I will lose out to someone with more experience.

This particular company interested me because I know the CEO personally. It is a large institution and I think it’s virtually impossible that my interviewers will be aware that I know him. Is it completely out of bounds to bring up my connection to him if I am asked why I applied to the job? I’m not sure how an interviewer would react to this and I don’t want to come off as thinking that I can use him to get the job. However, I want to give myself the best possible chance of getting the position.

If you’re directly asked why you applied and a part of that reason is that you know the CEO, it’s absolutely fine to say that — but be careful not to sound like you think that connection will help you. (It’s certainly possible that it will, but it might not, and either way if you sound like you expect it to, you will turn off your interviewer.) But something like this would be fine: “I’ve known Fitzwilliam Darcy for a while and always thought the way he talked about the work here was fascinating, so I was excited when I saw this opening.”

7. Should I have two separate LinkedIn profiles?

I have two careers, so to speak. My day job is finance and professional. My LinkedIn profile reflects that.

Evenings and weekends (and early mornings!), I am a fitness instructor/personal trainer. I would like to start connecting with more people in the fitness industry. Do you think I should have a separate Linkedin profile to reflect my fitness career? Or should I use one profile for both?

You should have one profile for both. First, LinkedIn’s rules prohibit multiple profiles for one person. Second, the profile isn’t for your job; it’s for you. You do two things. They’re both part of who you are. Include them both. (And to many people in both fields, it will make you more interesting.)

where are they now: 5 reader updates

I’m starting the updates a little early, because I have so many of them!  There are more than 50 coming…

1. The reader whose manager was excluding her from important conversations

I have actually moved on — I left the company in June and relocated 8,000 miles away to East Africa.

During my exit interview, my manager basically said that she felt that at times there were things I wanted to tell her, and that I chose not to say anything. That was true — I knew I was getting ready to leave the company, and she’d been a supporter of my goals all along (having written me glowing recommendations and praising the work I’d done in the past year), and I did not want to jeopardize that with a “confrontation.”

When the exit interview happened and I received her feedback, I felt frustrated– frustrated that I essentially appeared like a doormat and did not address with my manager the times when she “checked out” of work or behaved as though she did not value my work. It made me wonder whether I should have done differently, but I’d decided at the time that a painful conversation might have done more harm than good: she’s quite sensitive; I was managing my final projects and coordinating my move, etc. So, I let it all go. In the future, though, I am not sure that I will take the same course of action.

2. The reader whose mentor was going to get fired

Your advice was great! And I took it. But as it turned out, the program we were working on at the time ended up being cancelled for reasons far beyond any of our control, so the issue didn’t really come to a head. However, the whole situation made me rethink how much I wanted to stay at that company, and as it happens, I’m now working elsewhere for a well-respected company in my field, with a boss who I don’t think would put me in the position I was in before.

3. The reader applying to a job that wanted letters, not phone calls, from references (#5 at the link)

Thanks to your answer and the very thoughtful answers in the comments section, I decided to use a reference from another job in place of the reference who didn’t want to write a letter. The reference I ended up using was older but was from a job that better matched the responsibilities of the position. My other two references were really good about writing the letters and I ended up with three great references.

I got the job and have been in the position for three months now. The position is great and is a good match with my abilities, personality and ambitions. It took me over a year and several rejections, but looking back I am glad I didn’t get any of the other jobs. I never really understood the idea that interviewing is a 2-way street. I think my focus on both what I would bring to them and how the position would fit with me made me come across as a confident candidate, and might have made up for my lack of academia experience. Plus I worked up a great cover letter! I now work with a variety of students in their final year of school and I am going to recommend your website as a resource as they start to look for jobs. Thanks so much!

4. The reader wanting to repair a bad job history

I just wanted to say that I sincerely listened to your advice as well as the ones in the comments. Some of it was honestly really discouraging to hear, and I tried my best to go forward in my job search. I just wanted to thank you because I was able to find a well paying job in my field. I feel so lucky about it, like I am being given a second chance to try again. I had previous long-term volunteer experience so I used that to my advantage in my resume like others suggested. I think your advice really helped me land the job. So, thank you and please don’t ever stop blogging!

5. The reader wondering how to launch an employee performance tracker (#2 at the link)

We’ve rolled out various performance trackers since January. I don’t believe they’ve had much overall impact on employee performance because the follow-up after delivery is lacking and there isn’t accountability to achieve specific metrics on these trackers. The employees (and their managers) see them as more of a “here is where you’re at” rather than a “you must achieve this result,” which was part of my original concern. I believe without the buy in of front line managers, any type of accountability system will be flawed. 

can I include the value of my benefits when I talk about my current salary?

A reader writes:

I have an interview tomorrow and they’ve asked me to fill out the job application, as well as print two copies of my resume. On the application, it asks for my salary history. I’m reluctant to give this out because I’m afraid they’ll try to lowball me for an offer. I accepted my current job in 2011 in a terrible economy and know that I’m overqualified for it based on my experience and education.

My entire compensation with benefits is approximately $6k higher than my actual salary (by itself). I have the exact number because it says on my HR profile: “Company paid benefits represent an additional 15.20% of your annual compensation. Your total annual benefit and compensation is X.”

Would it be ok to put the higher number? If I got an offer and they called my current company to verify, I’m not lying, so would there be a problem with this?

No, it’s disingenuous. After all, if they offered you a salary of $75,000 and later told you, “Oh, it’s really $65,000 but the value of your benefits adds another $10,000,” wouldn’t you feel they’d lied to you? Plus, if they verify your salary with your employer (which many do), they’ll realize you misled them.

You’re better off either (a) declining to disclose your salary history altogether since it’s really none of their business anyway (and since you already have an interview, you’re more likely to get away with this) or (b) being honest and explaining why you’re worth more than your current salary.

how many interviews is too many for one job?

A reader writes:

I applied for a mid-level position over the summer and had my first interview in August. After not hearing from them for nearly a month, they asked that I come in to interview with another person, which I did last week, and afterward he asked for my references. I have just been asked to come back again to interview with two more people.

The first two interviews went pretty well and everyone I met there has been very nice, but they haven’t been able to meet me outside my 9-5 regular work schedule. It was difficult to arrange the first two interviews because I had to come to my current office late or leave early, and I don’t feel great about doing that three times. Is it rare to be asked for this many interviews and should I take any of this as a red flag?

Three interviews isn’t outrageous. When you think about how important the decision is on both sides, it’s actually pretty weird when companies hire after only spending an hour or two with someone. That said, by the time you’re on the third interview, you’d want to have a sense of what the rest of their hiring process looks like. It’s reasonable to ask whether this is the final step in the process or whether they anticipate additional interviews … or more generally, what the remainder of the hiring process looks like.

You also want to have some confidence that they’re doing three interviews because they’re truly being rigorous — and not just because they’re disorganized or inconsiderate of your time. So, have they used your time well? Did you understand why you met with each person you met with (and why you’re being asked to return to talk to these additional people)? Were the meetings valuable or were they not very substantive? Does this employer seem like they know what they want, or are they flighty and disorganized? That’s all information that tells you whether this is a process you can respect, or whether it’s not … and if it’s not, that’s valuable information about whether you want to work there.

As for their unwillingness to interview outside of regular work hours, it’s reasonable at this stage to say, “It would be difficult for me to take off additional time to interview. Would it be possible for me to come earlier in the morning or after 5? Or to talk by phone instead?” A reasonable employer should at least try to make that work after you’ve already come in twice on their schedule, and if they ultimately can’t, they should explain why (such as that the person you’re meeting with is constricted by her kid’s day care schedule, for instance). If they won’t budge and they won’t explain why, assume there’s at least some rigidity and inflexibility in their culture and/or that they don’t really get that hiring the right person is important enough that they should try to be accommodating.

required to read a self-help book, manager calls us “old,” and more

It’s seven short answers to seven short questions. Here we go…

1. Did we waste money flying a fired employee back home?

I work for a company that justly terminated an employee while that employee was out of town on company business (for a company policy violation). Is the company obligated to provide that employee with transportation to get back to his home base?

The manager who did the firing wanted to leave the employee stranded, but I insisted we fly him home – and we did. However, now this continues to be a complaint of how money was “wasted” on this flight. What would be the correct answer in this case?

Of course you’re obligated to provide transportation back. Why should the employee have to pay to return himself home when he was there on business? The correct answer to that manager is: “We are not going to leave employees stranded when they’ve left town on business, both because that’s incredibly unethical and unkind and because other employees who hear about it will never want to go on business travel for us again, and quite rightly.”

2. Can my company make us ineligible for unemployment benefits?

I work for a company in California. That just sent an email alerting all employees today that there was a high likeliness we would not have jobs by the end of the year with company layoffs the first two weeks of December. Alarming, yes! Even more alarming is that they are suggesting that there is a law protecting them from us getting unemployment benefits because they are giving us notice. Is this possible?

No. If you’re being laid off, you should be eligible for unemployment. The only real law around advance notice of layoffs is the WARN Act, which requires employers with 100 or more employees to provide notification 60 days in advance of plant closings and mass layoffs. If an employer fails to give that required notice, they must pay the laid-off employees for those 60 days (so it’s basically severance in lieu of notice). So I wonder if what your company meant is that they’re not planning to pay out severance since they’re giving you the required notice. This would be totally different from unemployment benefits, though, which you should be eligible for.

3. Required to read a self-help book — and take a test on it

An employee of mine works for another dentist part-time.The dentist is requiring her and all of his staff to read a 292-page self-help book not related to her position or dentistry. He said they have to write a report and take a test on this book. They are not being paid to do this. They must read it on their own time and finish by a certain date. Is this legal for him to do?

It’s certainly legal for him to require them to read the book and test them on it (although the testing part of this is really weird and he should rethink at least that part of it). If they’re exempt employees, he does not have to pay them for the time they spend reading it. If they’re non-exempt and the book is required work, he does need to pay them for that time — since non-exempt employees must be paid for all their time.

4. Should you always email your thanks to people for answering questions, or will it clutter their in-box?

When you ask someone a question via email and they answer you, is it considered polite to email them back to thank them for answering your question? On the one hand, I sometimes feel rude not acknowledging when someone has taken the time to answer a question I’ve had. On the other hand, I don’t want to clutter their inbox with an email which might be considered unnecessary.

Depends on what is it. I don’t think constant thank-you’s are necessary for routine internal emails from coworkers (although they’re still gracious), but you should absolutely be thanking (a) coworkers who go out of their way for you and do something that isn’t part of the normal routine of their job and (b) any non-coworkers who answer anything for you.

5. Talking to an employee about inappropriate cell phone use

I am the principal for a small juvenile justice facility. I am on my cell a lot; my boss texts me, especially since my minutes have run out. We don’t have a long distance line yet as we are a new program and really just getting set up and severely technologically challenged.

I noticed that recently (the last 2 weeks) my assistant is on her cell more than I am. I’ve seen her playing games on her phone and having personal conversations…more than I’m really comfortable with. There were some transportation issues, and her child was sick. Those types of situations, I don’t really mind. However, chatting with a friend over what to buy a child for a birthday is unnecessary at work. But what I’m expecting when I tell her that we have a problem with her cell usage is that she will most likely throw it up in my face that I’m on my cell too. So I’m seeking advice before I get bent and say some things I probably shouldn’t.

She does a good job with paperwork and all that, but other people have said things to me about the cell use. She will also go MIA at times. She is also related to some of the other people who work in this building. So there is a PR issue on both sides. I’ve got to formulate a plan of action to deal with her because saying one or two things about the cell will most likely cause conflict that I’m hoping to avoid if possible.

You can’t avoid conflict as a manager; you will need to have tough conversations and give difficult feedback. This one is actually pretty straightforward though: “Jane, I don’t mind you using your cell phone for personal matters when it’s an emergency, like a sick child. But other than that, please don’t use it for personal conversations during the work day or play games on it.” If she responds that she sees you on your cell, then say, “I use my cell primarily for business, but we’re talking about you now, and I’m letting you know what I need from you.”

It’s really not her business how or why you use your cell phone. If she continues bringing it up after this, then you have an insubordination issue that’s probably bigger than the cell phone usage.

6. How can I thank my boss for taking me on this business trip?

I just returned from a work trip to Las Vegas with my boss, the managing director, and one other director. We had a conference for 3 days and stayed on an extra few days. We did so many cool things after the conference, like a helicopter tour to the Grand Canyon and a famous show. I really appreciate this and would never be able to thank my boss enough for taking me with them.

The question is, how do I show them my appreciation, other than working hard (as I always do)? Would a small gift be appropriate, and what if I do give them?

Don’t give a gift; that would be overkill. This was a business trip, first and foremost, and a gift wouldn’t seem quite right. Instead, just tell your boss how much you appreciated being able to go, and explain what you got out of the conference, and then add that you were thrilled to be able to stay those few extra days and you had a great time. That’s it. Make it sincere and heartfelt, and that will have far more meaning than a gift could.

7. Manager keeps calling employees “old”

I’m writing in to ask about a situation that my mother is in at work. She has been with the same company for the past 15 years or so. She’s in her early 60s and loves her job and does it well.

Her new supervisor has never managed people before and has had several slip-ups with her direct reports. These slip-ups mostly revolve around my mother and another seasoned coworker of hers. Namely, the supervisor has called them “old” in meetings and in individual encounters. Yesterday she called them “old” in a meeting of the whole staff. When my mother interrupted her and said that was inappropriate, the supervisor said “Would you rather I call you elderly?” She said this completely seriously and with a straight face!

I told my mother she should be documenting these instances and writing to her HR representative. She’s hesitant, though, because she’s approached the HR representative in the past about other issues and had no response. What do you suggest?

Just because she hasn’t had a response from HR in the past doesn’t mean she won’t now. She should talk to them in person and then follow up with an email summarizing her concerns, and she should be specific that she’s concerned that the manager is demonstrating an age-based biased “which could get us into trouble because of federal laws against age discrimination.”

Notice the “us” in that sentence. That’s intentional, because it’s far easier to have this conversation when you put yourself on the same side as the company than when you position yourself as an adversary.

Any competent HR department will hear about this and take action, because that manager is laying the grounds for a reasonably strong age discrimination lawsuit if any of the older staff happen to get laid off, fired, or demoted. (In other words, the comments on their own probably don’t provide grounds for a lawsuit, but combined with actual adverse action, they could.)

should I talk with my manager before I accept another job, even though I wouldn’t accept a counter-offer?

A reader writes:

I have a great relationship with my manager, and about a year ago he mentioned that if I were to ever get a job offer, I should speak with him before accepting it so we could work something out. We’d had a few people in our department resign over the course of 3 or 4 months, and he said something like, “If you get a job offer, just promise me that you’ll come talk to me *before* you accept.” I thought he was joking with me, but then he said something like, “No really, come talk to me so we can work something out.”

Here is my problem: I just received a job offer for my dream job (thanks to your awesome advice)! We are in the final stages of negotiation and I expect to hear something within the next two days.

I would like to talk to my manager before accepting the offer, since he asked me to, but I feel there is nothing he could offer to make me stay. He can’t change any of the reasons that I’m leaving. The new job is at a much larger company, with more opportunities and ideal career track. I love my current manager, but I’m worried that talking to him about an offer I am considering, but haven’t yet accepted, is a mistake. On the other hand, I’m worried that if I just resign without giving him the opportunity to counter-offer, he will be offended.

What should I do?

By the way – my manager always makes a counter-offer if he wants to retain the person. I only know this because I am his assistant and I draw up the counter-offers on his behalf. One person did actually accept the counter-offer and is still with us, and I’ve never perceived any awkwardness between him and my manager.

You’re not obligated to talk to your manager before accepting this other offer just because he asked you to. And really, the type of thing he said to you doesn’t usually mean “I will be offended if you take another offer without talking to me.” It more often means “I would like the chance to keep you from leaving, probably with more money.” If you know that he wouldn’t be able to make you an offer that would entice you to stay, then you should be able to comfortably skip that step.

That said, there certainly are people who have such a strong relationship with their manager that they would want to talk with them before making a final decision on an offer. And that’s reasonable, when it’s in a context of knowing they won’t be penalized for it. But it doesn’t sound like the desire to talk to him about this is coming from you — it’s coming from him. So what you have to remember is that his asking you to do that doesn’t incur an obligation on your part — you get to decide for yourself whether it makes sense to give him a heads-up before you make a decision.

If you choose not to, then when you resign, if he’s dismayed that you didn’t talk to him first, you can say something like: “I appreciate that you would have been open to talking with me about it. But I’m committed to my decision, and I don’t want to put you in the position of trying to work something out with me when my mind is made up on the other job. I hope you understand.” And then you quickly follow that up with something about how much you’ve enjoyed working with, what a great manager he’s been (since it sounds like that would be sincere), and how you’re going to work to help him have a smooth transition and hope to stay in touch afterwards.

He might still tell you that he wishes you’d talked to him earlier — but a sane manager isn’t going to hold it against you that you didn’t.

do dogs belong in job interviews?

A reader writes:

I work for a company that allows pets to be brought to work. In fact, we have a “Dog of the Day” program and a coordinator. Did I mention the pooches get their own company name/ID badges too?

But I digress.

Recently, I was part of a panel made up of a VP, two sales managers, a customer service manager, and myself (also a customer service manager) to interview a candidate for a position in our newly formed sales organization. My cohort in customer service brought her dog into the interview. I was appalled by this, as I perceive it to be completely unprofessional and disruptive as the dog, a larger German Shepherd mix was constantly moving around under the table and doing what dogs do throughout the interview.

So what’s your take on pets in interviews?

Well, in general, I’d say that pets don’t belong in interviews, for the same reasons that kids don’t belong in interviews: They’re a distraction. And they make some people nervous.

Of course, in your company, you could argue that your coworker simply gave the job candidate a direct look at company culture. And seeing the culture firsthand helps candidates figure out if they want to work there.

However, I’m going to argue it still wasn’t a great idea … because not everyone is comfortable around dogs (some people are even outright afraid of them), and it’s not fair to impose a dog on a job candidate in a situation where the power dynamics mean that she might not feel comfortable saying anything. It would certainly be a cue to such a candidate that she probably doesn’t want to accept the job, but it’s still not particularly considerate to put her in a room with one for an animal she’s afraid of — or allergic to — in a situation where she might feel obligated speaking up.

Plus, even without that problem, you’re still left with the distraction issue.

That said, I think this is one of those items where your company simply needs to come to a shared understanding about where it is and isn’t okay to bring the dogs. And if job interviews end up on the “okay” list, then someone needs to let candidates know ahead of time, in case they have allergies or otherwise want to decline the interview.

10 things not to say to your out-of-work friend

If you have an out-of-work friend who’s trying to find a job, you probably want to be supportive and say the right thing to make her search easier. But well-intentioned comments can easily make a stressed-out job-searcher feel worse. Here are 10 things you should never say to an out-of-work friend.

1. “It must be nice to have so much time off work.” It might look to you like it’s nice to have plenty of time to run errands and watch Netflix, but this will make you sound insensitive to the stress and anxiety of unemployment – which your friend is almost certainly dealing with. Being unemployed isn’t a vacation. For many people, it’s more stressful than going to an office every day.

2. “How many interviews have you had?” There’s no way for this question to make your friend feel good. If she hasn’t had many, she’ll feel awkward explaining that. And if she’s had a lot, she’ll worry that you’ll wonder why none of them have led to an offer. Don’t put your friend in the position of explaining how successfully or unsuccessfully her search is going – after all, the only success that really matters is when she gets a job.

3. “Have you tried looking for jobs online?” Unless your friend is unusually technological inept, she’s looking for jobs online. Possibly daily. Suggestions of tried-and-true methods like this one can be aggravating for job-seekers, and can come across as if you don’t have faith in their ability to manage their own search.

4. “Why don’t you try temping?” While this can be a good suggestion for some people, temping isn’t as reliable of an income source as it used to be. With so many people out of work and competing for the same jobs, even temporary ones, many qualified job seekers report that they’ve registered at multiple temp agencies and never been called.

5. “Did you apply for that job I sent you?” You’re probably just asking out of curiosity or to be supportive, but it can be your friend in an awkward spot. She might have determined that job you sent wasn’t right for her, or she might have applied and not appreciate your stirring up anxiety about why she hasn’t heard back. It’s great to pass along job opportunities that you see, but make sure you don’t sound like you’re nagging about them afterwards.

6. “But you’re so smart (or accomplished or well educated). You shouldn’t have trouble finding a job.” You might think you’re being supportive, but since your friend apparently has had trouble finding a job, you’ll either make her feel bad about herself (why hasn’t anyone wanted to hire her if she’s so smart?) or make her think that you’re naïve about the very tough realities of today’s job market.

7. “You hated your old job anyway.” Sure, your friend might have hated her boss or not gotten along with her coworker, but she would probably rather have the income from that job than not have the work at all.

8. “Have you heard back from that interview you had last week?” This is a good way to remind your friend of something she might be trying not to agonize over. When a job-searcher has good news that she wants to share, you’ll hear it!

9. “Let’s go out to (expensive dinner / concert / trip).” Without any income coming in, your friend is probably watching her budget, so be careful about the cost of any activities you suggest. The exception to this, of course, is if you’re treating.

10. “It’s taking you so long to find a job!” Don’t expect your friend to find a job immediately or express surprise that she’s been searching for so long. In this market, job searches take months, and in some cases a year or more. Comments like this can be excruciating for the job searcher, who might be working far harder than you know.

I originally published this at U.S. News & World Report.

rude texts from manager, should HR be required to use the company’s benefit plans, and more

It’s seven short answers to seven short questions. Here we go…

1. Boss texted me rude comments about my marriage and wants me to work on my anniversary

I am a salaried employee who is considering divorcing my husband. My boss is aware of this and we have had several discussions regarding this during our lunch time. This past week, my boss asked me to come into the office on a Sunday because I was out sick Thursday and Friday (which I took vacation days for). I responded to the text message that Sunday was my wedding anniversary. My boss sent one back that said, “Who cares? Are you celebrating or leaving him?” I answered and said I could work Saturday, she said no, that she had other plans that she couldn’t break.

Is this legal? Can she request that I come in on my normal day off (we work M-F) that is a occasion for me, and try and make me feel guilty?

Yes, it’s legal. No law prevents your manager from trying to make you feel guilty or from making rude remarks about your marriage. She can also ask or require you to work days that different from your usual schedule. You can say yes, no, or propose a different arrangement. If you say no, it’s her prerogative to insist — but a good manager isn’t going to require someone who normally works Monday through Friday to work on a Sunday when they say they can’t except in fairly rare circumstances.

2. Can I ask an employee to show me the offer letter they claim they received?

Is it legal to ask for a copy of an offer letter when an existing employee is asking for a raise based on this supposed “offer”? I have my doubts that the employee actually has this offer, but I’m in a nonprofit organization and the culture is more relaxed than my for-profit experience. If I give this employee the raise they want, they will surpass peers and this person doesn’t have the credentials their peers have. I don’t want to lose the employee but I need guidance on how to handle.

Sure, it’s legal to ask for that, but I wouldn’t do it. You need to decide if you’re willing to pay this person what they want based on their value to you, not to an entirely different organization. Does paying them more make sense for the organization (considering value and how this will position them relative to their peers)? If not, then you shouldn’t offer a raise just to keep the person. (In fact, you probably shouldn’t counter-offer at all; read this.)

3. We can’t take time off unless we find our own coverage — but there isn’t anyone available for coverage

I was happy to find your post about overly rigid vacation policies, as I am in a similar work situation, also in a hospital. However, I’m curious about the “find your own coverage part.” Our director sends out every schedule (3 to 4 months in advance) with the caveat that “PTO requests are not considered approved until coverage has been found.” Here’s the rub: there is NO ONE to cover by the 12 full-timers who work in the department. We have no part-time or PRN employees and the director refuses to bring in agency/temp help. So, we are constantly being guilt-tripped and pressured into picking up extra shifts and working OT on our scheduled days off so that one of us can go on vacation. The implicit threat is that if you don’t pony up and do your share, you might not get to take your vacation.

I have scoured our HR policies and there is nothing that addresses this. So, I’m guessing it is legal to do so, but what is a person supposed to do in this situation? We work 80-hour weeks (7 to 8 consecutive 10-hour shifts, some have a day or two off before the final shift depending on the shift they are working). We’re tired and we all have lives and things we have to do/need to do/want to do on our days off. Not to mention feeling like your PTO is being held hostage — in my opinion, once it goes on the schedule that you are on PTO, isn’t that considered “approved”?

Yeah, a company can set any rules for taking PTO that it wants, including that you have to find your own coverage. It’s a terrible rule and it pretty much guarantees that employees will end up feeling like you do. Your options are to accept it, push back against it (ideally as a group), think about unionizing (which has both pros and cons, so you’d want to do a lot of research — although they’re really asking for it in this situation), or find another job. But yeah, your management sucks.

4. Do employers still hire in December?

Every company and industry is different, but do people usually hire (for long-term positions) in December or do things start slowing down?

Sure, plenty of employers are still hiring in December. Some slow down because people are away … but the flip side of that is that job-seekers often slow down too, so of the employers that ARE hiring then, you can sometimes end up with less competition.

5. Should HR managers be required to use the benefit plans they negotiate for their organizations?

At a recent family gathering, one of my relatives was venting about some rumors about the head of HR and the benefit plans at their employer. Apparently next year, two providers will be switched, leading to a drop in the range of benefits provided in one case and, in the other case, to a benefit provider with a reputation for slow payment and frustrating communication issues. (Neither of these changes are in medical insurance or related to the ACA as far as we know.) The change will save the company an amount near the very bottom of the six-figure range. The employer is financially healthy and is expanding at a modest rate.

These changes, of course, are legal. At present they are considered ethical. Here’s the thing, though — the head of HR brags about their spouse’s cadillac benefits and does not use any of the benefits HR negotiates. Any problems with the reduction in benefits or delayed payments will not affect the head of HR.

My relative is outraged, and I can see the point. I wish SHRM or other groups would stipulate that HR managers who negotiate this stuff must also have to sign on to use the benefits. It seems fairer to me, although I know curbside fairness has nothing to do with corporate legalities. It also seems practical to me — if HR is using the benefit providers, they are an early warning service if the provider is not meeting acceptable standards of performance. Do associations for accountants, IT staff, corporate procurement, and other business executives have ethical standards and would something like this be appropriate for SHRM or other relevant groups?

It’s an interesting idea. I suspect organizations like SHRM (Society for Human Resource Management — the professional association for HR people) wouldn’t go for it, because HR isn’t always the final word on what insurance plan an employer offers. If you were the HR director at an organization that could only afford a cheaper plan, but your spouse had excellent coverage and you had health problems, is it realistic to require you to forego that better coverage that’s available to you, particularly when you’re not the final decision-maker? And if even if you were the final decision-maker, sometimes financial realities dictate lower-cost plans anyway, no matter how sensitive someone might be to the health care needs of their workforce.

It’s another reason why tying health insurance to employment is a flawed idea.

6. Can I negotiate this job offer?

I am 25 years old and recently received my master’s degree. In the past, I have held internship positions and done work in the industry that I am applying for jobs in as a part of my masters curriculum. However, I have been applying for jobs the last 3 months post graduation. I have had interviews but no clear offers until I had a chance to speak with a relative who forwarded my resume to one of is former colleagues. His colleague was impressed with my resume and after an initial phone screening I was invited to interview with 4 separate people, including the company CEO, in day-long interviews. Last week, I received a phone call that they would like to extend me an offer.

Here’s the issue. The company is restructuring and my position was a newly created one. I discussed what sort of projects and priorities I would be expected to tackle after being hired, but at the time of the interviews the position had no title and the organization was still working on nailing down what they wanted as the duties of the new hire. So I have an idea of what my job would be, but I cannot research salary and benefits to negotiate a job offer if I am not even sure of a position title. I do want to work at the company and found the people I spoke with to be very engaging. The work would be a challenge, as I would be creating a platform and doing things that don’t currently exist for the company in the form of creating performance metrics. Both the company and I would be making it up as we go along, and I do expect a steep learning curve working for a company in the healthcare industry. I was told they would make me an official offer within the next 2 weeks. How should I approach the job offer as a new hire and recent graduate with limited work experience? I am excited to start my first real job but do not want to botch the job offer. Do I have room to negotiate?

Like all negotiations, it depends on how badly they want you and you want them. As a recent grad without much work experience, you don’t have a lot of standing to negotiate (you can’t point to a track record of professional success, let alone one in the area they’re hiring you for). But that doesn’t mean that you can’t try at all; you just can’t ask for something dramatically over what they offer. I’d wait and hear their offer and then see if it feels reasonable to ask for a bit more than that (a bit meaning a few thousand, probably). But make sure that you have the details and responsibilities of the job nailed down first, because you’re right that you can’t intelligently negotiate for more money (or even say yes to an offer) without knowing what the work actually is and what you’ll be expected to achieve.

7. Should I thank this search firm for interviewing me?

I applied to a job that was actually through a professional search firm. I had the phone interview last week and met the recruiter today. I do not know if I will get an interview with the actual company. Sounded like it, but like you always say, when you submit a resume and maybe even get interviews, until you get a job offer, carry on to the next resume/intervew. But my question is, do I send a thank-you to the search firm?

If so, I was just thinking of a simple “It was a pleasure meeting with you, let me know if you have any further questions for me…” Something to that nature. Short and simple. I don’t think it is a bad thing to do so, but is it necessary?

Necessary? No. Thoughtful and gracious? Yes. It’s rarely a bad idea to thank someone for their time or for helping you.

recruiter wants me to lie about my experience

A reader writes:

Lately I’ve been troubled by a recruiter who appears to be encouraging me to lie about my qualifications to the companies he wants to submit me to. The first time, I lacked many of the qualifications listed in the job description and told the recruiter that I didn’t think that position was suitable for my level of experience, but he insisted that I had those qualifications because he looked at my resume (which didn’t say anything at all about those qualifications), and encouraged me to just say I had experience with those technologies and then look them up on the Internet before the interview. He also pressured me with repeated calls, asking me to give him permission to forward my resume to the job without even telling me anything about the job other than the list of qualifications required.

I strongly insisted that I didn’t think I was right for the position, and eventually he got the message and backed off…or so I thought. Now he’s contacting me again with jobs requiring experience in a half-dozen things I’ve never done before, claiming that my resume says I’m competent to do the job and that it doesn’t really matter if I lack the experience as long as I can claim I have it. Once again, he’s told me nothing about the jobs except for the list of required qualifications. Naturally, I’m planning to push back strongly against him, but should I be reporting him to the company he works for as well? Is there anyone else I should be reporting this to as well, maybe some kind of blacklist for bad recruiters? I feel bad for the companies that are dealing with him, being force-fed young ineperienced recruits who are being pushed to deceive the interviewers about their experience.

Wow. He wants you to say you have experience with specific technologies and just look them up on the Internet before your interview?? And it doesn’t matter that you don’t have experience as long as you’re willing to claim that you have it?

Obviously, do not work with this recruiter. The next time he contacts you, say something like this: “I’m not comfortable misrepresenting my experience, and I’m uncomfortable that you’re suggesting I should. I don’t think we’d work well together, so please take me off your contact list.”

If you’d like to get more expansive than that, feel free to add, “I don’t think the companies you’re recruiting for would appreciate what you’re saying to me.”

But as for reporting him to the company he’s recruiting for … you certainly could look up the hiring manager on LinkedIn or the company website and send them a short, professional note letting them know how this guy is operating. But I’m hesitant to advise you to do that — because as much as I would want to know about this if I were in their shoes, you risk it impacting the way they see you (because you might just come across as disgruntled).

But you can take solace in the fact that this guy isn’t likely to keep companies happy with his services for long. If he’s sending them unqualified candidates, any company with a halfway decent hiring process is going to pick up on that very quickly, and it’ll come back to bite him in the ass … with a lack of hires (which means no commissions for him) and eventually a terrible reputation and little to no business.

You’re right that there should be a site like Glass Door for recruiters though … and if there were, I bet it would be filled with stories in about 48 hours.