terse answer Thursday — 7 short answers to 7 short questions

It’s terse answer Thursday — seven short answers to seven short questions. Here we go.

1. Asking job candidates, “Tell me about yourself”

I am a manager for a small nonprofit organization and I am responsible for a lot of the hiring that we do. I feel like saying, “Tell me about yourself” is a pretty standard entry point for initial phone screenings, and I always assumed that a standard answer would include a brief summary of where you are from (if you feel comfortable sharing that), where you went to school, and maybe a general overview of the most recent roles that you’ve played or (depending on your experience) a brief description of your overall career trajectory that explains how you got to where you are.

Today I interviewed two candidates for an opening we have. One gave me a 30-minute-long dialogue about her education, her very first job (she has several years of experience and several positions on her resume), and her master’s degree experience, without telling me anything about what she is doing currently or what she has done since 2010. The second completely skipped over her education and early work experience altogether to discuss what she’s been doing for the last 10 months (she finished a master’s degree in August 2011). This had me wondering, both as an interviewer as well as from a candidate’s perspective, is there a better way to ask, “tell me about yourself?” And also, is there a preferred or more helpful way to answer that question?

Personally, I don’t ask it. You rarely get information that isn’t on the resume — and in fact, if you look at what you say you’re expecting in an answer, it’s all stuff you already know from reading the candidate’s materials (minus where they’re from, which isn’t really useful anyway). But if you’re going to ask it, I definitely wouldn’t ask it in phone interviews — since they’re usually much shorter than in-person interviews, and you presumably have a slate of questions that you want to get through, and thus want to be more directive in how the conversation goes than “tell me about yourself” might allow.

But why ask it at all? I know some interviewers think it’s a good softball opener, but why not ask something like, “So, what interested you about this opening?” to start off with?

(And while we’re on the topic, here’s how I recommend candidates respond to “tell me about yourself.”)

2. Fingernail length in job interviews

I’ve read on your blog somewhere that nails should be neatly filed and slightly over the tip of your finger in length. However, I’m an art hobbyist, and I have to keep my nails very short to keep them from digging into my palm (thanks to my awkward handling of pencils). While I can keep them neat and tidy, they’re lacking in length. Is this going to be an issue with interviewers? Are they going to look at my nails and write me off immediately? I’d hate to give up a hobby for the sake of pleasing interviewers. Thank you for your advice!

You didn’t read me say that they need to be slightly over the tip of your finger. I could give a crap about the length of your nails, as long as they’re not disgustingly long or grossly jagged. Don’t worry about having short nails — no one will care.

3. Can I be fired for refusing to work when I’m not getting paid?

If your employer is consistently cutting you paychecks that bounce, are you required to work? Can you be fired if you decline to work shifts until paid?

There are two separate issues here: the bouncing paychecks, and whether you can be fired for refusing to work. You could indeed by fired for refusing to work, although you’d be eligible for unemployment because not being paid is a qualifying reason for leaving a job in their eyes (and in everyone else’s eyes). But separately, your employer is required to pay you for your work within a period of time dictated by your state government (usually a few weeks or less). If you’re not being paid, and you’d like your money, contact your state department of labor for help.

4. Can I get in trouble for leaving work early because of snow?

I made a judgement on the snow conditions and left work early on Friday, as I was afraid I would not make it home. Plus, I hate driving in the snow and bad weather conditions. Can I get into trouble for this?

Legally? Sure. Will you in practice? It depends on your employer’s policies and/or culture and/or how your manager handle these things.

5. Should I wear a suit when I go for job testing?

I am a recent graduate, and I have been invited to a 2-hour literacy and numeracy test for a government job. This is the first “big girl” job I’ve applied to and had a response, so naturally, I’m quite nervous! I don’t doubt my capabilities in literacy and numeracy, but I do wonder what I should be wearing to the said test. I’ve taken you up on your advice on purchasing a nice suit, much to the teary-eyed joy of my parents, so would I be correct in assuming that I should be wearing this to the test? I don’t know if there will be anyone present who will judge my physically appearance as an applicant there, but I’d like to know for sure before I under/overdress.

Wear the suit. Even if you’re overdressed compared to other applicants, you’ll stand out for being professional, not for being over-dressed, and that’s a good thing. Employers who like suits — and the government falls in that category — appreciate it when people wear them to professional functions even when they don’t have to.

6. Our last bathroom question for a very long time

I have a simple question, but to me confronting the issue is terrifying. I am a supervisor, and I have only two employees. Every time I go into the staff bathroom, the toilet is disgusting to say the least. How do I confront the issue without embarrassing anyone? I am tired of cleaning up other people’s mess so I can go to the bathroom. We do not have a cleaning staff.

Why terrified? You have to deal with far more difficult conversations as a manager. Plus, anyone leaving the bathroom in these conditions has no shame anyway, so there’s no need to worry about embarrassing them.

Either send an email to your staff or post a sign in the bathroom, instructing people to clean up after themselves. Also, consider hiring cleaning staff.

And thus ends our bathroom discussions for a very long time, because I can’t take any more of them.

7. What to wear to a job interview when you have a cast on your leg

I’m a man who recently graduated with a masters degree in economics and am in the process of applying for jobs. A couple of weeks ago, I had the misfortune of rupturing my achilles, requiring a cast from my toes up to my knee. None of my dress pants will fit over the cast so I have been trying, without success, to find information about the right dress code for a job interview under the circumstances. The only thing that I have at the moment that fit over the cast are blue sweatpants. What would you do?

If only you were a woman and could wear a skirt, this would be so much easier. Is there any chance you can find some wider-legged dress pants that will fit over the cast? If not, tell them your situation ahead of time, sound embarrassed, and ask if you’ll make a horrible impression if you show up in the only pants that will fit over your cast, which unfortunately aren’t normal business attire. If they’re at all normal, compassionate, reasonable people, they will say it’s completely fine, and that will be that. (If for some reason they balk, take that as a signal that you’d be working with jerks if you took this job.) Also, make sure that the sweatpants you wear are as nice as possible — don’t wear the kind with elastic at the ankle, for instance. Good luck!

dealing with a coworker’s loud personal phone calls

A reader writes:

I share a cube wall with a young man who is a bit socially awkward. He doesn’t seem to understand normal boundaries and talks loudly about his personal life with his coworkers and on the phone all the time (and right now he’s doing an extended drumming session on his desk). His stories are the stuff gossipers dream of (jail! custody! legal fees! court orders! tax issues!), and sometimes I think he even talks about this stuff to vendors and clients. It’s very unprofessional and hurting his reputation with everyone sitting around him who isn’t on his team.

We have quiet rooms just steps away for exactly these types of phone calls (though that won’t help with the drumming). His team seems to find it amusing, and his manager has to be aware of the situation, since he sits near us and, as far as I know, is not hard of hearing. I’ve heard he’s brilliant at his job, so there’s no performance issue. He’s also very nice and friendly most of the time.

I’m not on his team — I’m not even in the same chain of command and I’m brand new to my job and the company. I have no relationship with his manager at all and I don’t have an on-site manager. I have noise-cancelling headphones and they help with the general chitcat, but not with the phone calls — I can still hear him. There are no open cubes for me to move to.

Since he has this general level of immaturity, and I’ve heard him get testy with insurance people on the phone, I worried about approaching him directly and just saying, “Can you please take your personal calls in the quiet room.” Several coworkers (on my team, not his) have said they feel sorry for me for sitting next to him, and they haven’t said anything because he’s such a source of entertainment for his team they think it would sour the relationship with everyone. I think he likes the attention he gets from his team.

I think the thing that is most distressing to me is not that it’s loud and distracting, but that his manager isn’t speaking up and telling him that it would be more professional to keep his personal life personal. It’s doing this guy a big disservice.

I’m stuck. Any advice would be appreciated.

You have three options: Talk to him, talk to his manager, or deal with it.

If you weren’t new, I’d say you should absolutely talk to him, and then escalate to your or his manager if necessary, but since you’re new, it’s a little dicier. Rightly or wrongly, when you ask a coworker to change their annoying behavior when you’re new, and when they’ve been doing this annoying thing without complaints for long before you got there, you sometimes risk looking inappropriately demanding or like you don’t adapt well to new cultures than if you made the same request after being there longer.

That said, in this case I think there’s no reason that you can’t nicely explain the problem to him. Say something like, “Bob, I’m finding that I’m having trouble focusing when you’re on the phone. I’ve tried noise-canceling headphones, but they haven’t solved it. I know you need to make calls for your job and I wouldn’t ask you to stop, but when it’s personal calls, I wonder if you’d be willing to use one of the quiet rooms.”

It’s still possible that he’ll get testy with you, of course — because it’s possible that anyone could get testy over anything — but this is a perfectly reasonable request with perfectly nice wording.

If that doesn’t work, or if you feel too awkward to do it, consider talking to his manager and ask for her help in solving the problem. Use the same sort of wording as above — explaining that you’ve taken measures on your own, like the headphones, but that the calls are long, frequent, loud, and distracting.

Or, your last option: Resign yourself to dealing with it, at least until you’ve been there a few months longer and might feel more comfortable speaking up.

But those are really your only options. You’ve got to decide which is the least painful to contemplate.

do you need to include months when listing job dates on your resume?

A reader writes:

What is your opinion/advice on removing months from the dates portion of your resume? I have a few years of professional experience and wonder if the months could come off from my earlier jobs.

For instance, changing “Job Title, April 2011 to June 2012” to just “Job Title, 2011 to 2012.”

Or is this something that hiring managers generally require and would like to see?

In the example you gave, leave the months. If you just write “2011 to 2012,” I have no idea if you were there for three months (like November 2011 – January 2012) or for 24 months (January 2011 – December 2012). And it makes a difference.

Most hiring managers aren’t going to reject you for not listing the months, but if they’re any good, they’re going to (a) wish you’d included it and (b) ask you to clarify it in an early screening. And if it turns out that it was only three months, they’re going to be annoyed that you tried to conceal that.

That said, if it’s a job in the far distant past or a job where you were there for a longer time (say, four or more years), no one will really care if you just use years.

employee is making sexually suggestive remarks — to his boss

A reader writes:

I’m writing on behalf of a friend. (She’s reviewed and approved this submission, by the way.)

My friend was recently promoted from chief accountant at one hotel to assistant director of finance of another hotel managed by her company. She’s been at the new hotel for about a month now, and the A/R manager — who reports to her — has gotten a little too comfortable with her. He’s begun making comments that are becoming increasingly sexual in nature. It began with remarks about how her boyfriend is “so lucky to be with her” and has grown to the level of what she describes as “increasingly explicit double entendres suggestive of S&M.”

Besides the sexual innuendos, she says that he’s an excellent worker — the best on her team — so she wants to give him a chance to change his behavior before reporting it to her manager or HR. To give some context as to why he might be acting less professionally with her than he might under different circumstances, she has a firm but casual management style and can sometimes blur the line between friend and manager. (She was my manager for about two years, so I speak from experience.) Aside from that, both he and her predecessor reported to the director of finance previously, so he’s used to being on somewhat equal footing with the person in her position. They’re also both fairly young: he is 26 and she’s 27. (Again, I’m just putting the behavior into context, not trying to excuse it — it’s clearly disrespectful and inappropriate.)

How can she clearly communicate that the behavior needs to stop?

She manages him and she hasn’t put a stop to this? Between that and your description of her tendency to “blur the line between friend and manager,” I have some worries about how she’s approaching her job as a manager in general. But we’ll get to that in a minute.

She needs to put a stop to this immediately. This would be true even if they were peers, but she’s his boss. She’s responsible for setting and enforcing standards of behavior.

The next time he makes one of these remarks, she needs to immediately say, “That’s not appropriate to say at work. Please don’t talk to me or any other employees like that.” She needs to say it clearly — no watering it down with a smile or a laugh.

If it continues after that, she needs to treat it with escalating seriousness: “Bob, I’ve told you in the past that remarks like that aren’t appropriate at work. I’m not comfortable hearing those comments, and it’s not acceptable to say things like that to others here either.”

(Note, by the way, that she shouldn’t just be shutting him down when it comes to conversations with her; as his manager, it’s her responsibility to tell him that he can’t talk like that with others at work either.)

She should also alert her HR department that she’s had this conversation with him — because it will not go well for her if someone else reports him for harassment and it comes out that his own manager knew about his conversational tendencies all along.

Now, let’s go back to this management style “that can sometimes blur the line between friend and manager.” She needs to stop that too. She isn’t her employees’ friend. She’s just not, no matter how much she might want to think that she is. Friends don’t judge each other’s work, give tough feedback, impose consequences when their work isn’t up to par, make decisions about raises and promotions, and potentially need to lay them off or fire them. (And managers who try to be friends with their staff? It rarely goes well.)

Given that your friend is already not sure how to address inappropriate behavior from someone who reports to her, she’s really got to step back and reassess her management style — and put an end to the friend pretense. That doesn’t mean that she needs to be cold and aloof, but it does mean preserving professional boundaries, being forthright when there’s a problem, and being comfortable with exercising authority.

how to overcome your fear of negotiating salary

Most job-seekers are thrilled to get a job offer but dread the salary negotiation that comes along with it. Especially for people who don’t do much negotiating in their daily lives, negotiating salary can be intimidating and many people would rather simply accept an employer’s first offer than push for more.

But overcoming your fears about negotiation can lead you to increase your starting salary significantly. Here are some of the most common fears about negotiating, and how you can overcome them.

1. “The employer’s goal is to lowball me.” Well, that might be their goal, but if they’re a good employer, their goal is probably to get you for a fair-market salary that’s in line with their salary structure and which you’ll be happy with. Smart employers want to ensure that their employees feel fairly compensated, because they want to retain them. If they manage to hire you for below the market rate for your work, you’re more likely to leave as soon as you find something that pays more. If you’re dealing with a decent employer, assume that you both want a fair and reasonable salary agreement. (Of course, that’s a big caveat. If you’re dealing with a shady employer, this doesn’t apply.)

2. “If I try to negotiate, they might pull the offer entirely.” This is probably the biggest fear of job-seekers when it comes to negotiating. Fortunately, it’s pretty baseless, as long as you handle the negotiation in a pleasant and professional manner – without being too pushy or adversarial about it – and as long as you don’t ask for an amount so unrealistic that it calls into question your sanity. That’s not to say that no one has ever lost a job offer by trying to negotiate – some people have. But that only happens with highly dysfunctional employers, and you’re generally better off not working for them – because if they react so bizarrely to such a normal move on your part, imagine how they handle requests for time off, raises, or new projects.

3. “If I ask for more and don’t get it, I’ll look silly accepting their lower offer.” You might worry that if you ask for a higher salary and get turned down, you’ll lose face by accepting the initial offer. But employers won’t see it that way at all. If they tell you that their offer is firm and you ultimately decide to accept it, they won’t think any less of you for having asked if there was any flexibility.

4. “I don’t know what salary to ask for, so I might end up lowballing myself.” If this is your fear, do some information-gathering so that you’re not coming into negotiations blind. Before you reach the offer stage with any job, you want to have researched the market rate for this type of work in your geographic area. That way, you’re not just guessing what an appropriate salary would be; you’ll have some data to base your thinking on.

5. “I’ll look foolish if I don’t negotiate, but I’m happy with the initial offer.” While in most cases it makes sense to try to negotiate an initial offer for at least a little bit more – because you’ll often get it – sometimes you’re thrilled with the first offer and think it’s fair, or even more than fair. If you’re dealing with a generous company that has matched your expectations, don’t beat yourself up if you decide to simply relax and accept.

I originally published this column at U.S. News & World Report.

wee answer Wednesday — 7 short answers to 7 short questions

It’s wee answer Wednesday — seven short answers to seven short questions. Here we go…

1. My boss banned sugary foods from the office

Today my boss, who is also the buisness owner, tried to tell our office staff that we are banned from bringing in sugary foods, and she told a coworker who brought in doughnuts for the office that if they weren’t gone in an hour, she was going to throw them away. She has no health problems when it comes to such foods; she just has no will power to not partake in them herself. Is is legal for a buisness owner to ban certain foods from the office?

Yes. But you can still make a case to her for changing the policy, and offering to keep these foods out of shared spaces might help if her concern is that she’ll be tempted. But ultimately, it’s her call. A silly call, but hers to make.

2. Being asked to take a public speaking course when you have a history of stuttering

My company has asked everyone at my job level to take a public speaking course. I think we are all being asked to go because two of my four teammates are terrible public speakers.

This would be fine, except that I have had a stuttering problem since I was a little girl, and the thought of taking a class like this makes my anxiety go through the roof — not because I am afraid of public speaking, but because I am afraid it will aggravate my stuttering and cause it to return with a vengeance. I had many years of speech therapy, and I am able to hide my stutter now to the point that most people do not know I do it. I have developed my own personal techniques for preparing for public speaking over the last 30 years, and I feel I do a very good job. In fact, it was noted on my lastest performance review what a great job I do in communicating with clients. I just don’t want to risk a recurrence. Do I have the right to ask my manager if I can skip out on this training, or should I suck it up and attend?

Talk to your manager and explain what you said here. If you explain that you’re concerned that this will cause a return of a problem that it took you years to overcome, any compassionate manager will recuse you. If she seems hesitant, offer to bring in documentation from a speech therapist or doctor. (Employers aren’t legally bound by doctor’s notes, but even just offering one can be helpful in persuading them that something is both real and serious.)

3. Asking for feedback after a job rejection

I know you’ve talked about asking for feedback after receiving a rejection. I was wondering do you think it’s better to call or email?

Email, always. First, whenever you can email an employer rather than calling, you should — because calling interrupts people and demands an answer on your schedule rather than theirs, whereas email can be answered at their convenience. Plus, in a case like this, you want the person to have time to formulate their thoughts and not be put on the spot.

4. Manager only gives feedback when there’s a problem

I was hoping you might shed some light on a tough work situation I have. I have multiple supervisors (a challenge on its own to deal with), but my on-site supervisor is the one I struggle with most because she doesn’t show any emotion besides displeasure. I’ve been told by other people that she will never give anyone positive reinforcement for good work done. The best sign of her approval, they told me, was if she doesn’t say anything to me at all. I don’t need a lot of praise, but her stoic demeanor makes me uncomfortable and I constantly worry that there is feedback I am losing because of a lack of communication. The few times I have suggested improvements to methodology have provoked negative responses to other things in the past, so I am hesitant to bring it up to her. How can I best work with her if I cannot read where she stands on things?

You can certainly ask her for more feedback — asking her what she thinks is going well, where you could do better, etc. But it sounds like your best bet is to believe what your coworkers told you: With this manager, hearing no feedback is good feedback. That’s not good management, obviously, but it’s not that uncommon either. Some managers simply don’t see their job as to give praise; they see it solely as ensuring that work gets done, and correcting people when needed. Not a great approach, but not unheard of.

Since you can’t do anything to change her, your options are to (a) accept that this is how she works and interpret accordingly, or (b) be upset about it, which won’t result in her changing but will result in you being unhappy. Go for (a).

5. Telling prospective employers that I’m doing some career soul-searching

I’m early into my career and am wondering, is it ever alright to admit to potential employers that I’m still doing some career soul searching? Specifically, I’m applying for internships at the moment, and one company is hiring for several departments, but only has one job posting. I feel that I should mention which departments interest me most, but I find myself listing a multitude of departments that are quiet different. My plan was to write a cover letter that emphasizes my desire to work with the company in question, but what’s a good way to say I’m open to working in a variety of departments without sounding overly immature or flaky?

It’s fine to say that you’re at the start of your career and not yet committed to going in one particular direction, and that your goal right now is to do useful work and get experience. But I’d stop there — don’t give a long list of departments or explicitly say that you’re soul-searching. Employers want to feel that you have some sense of direction, so that you won’t end up pulled in a different direction than whatever they hire you for.

6. Telling retail employers I have complete availability

I graduated from college in May. Apparently I’ve taken a lot of bad advice from all of my well-meaning relatives, so thank you for writing your blog. It confirms what I always suspected! I’m sure there are dozens of questions I could ask, but what I’m pondering right now is how to apply to shift work, like at a coffee shop or retail.

Since I am unemployed, I don’t have many scheduling demands. Since I just graduated, my sleep schedule is completely destroyed. I wake up before class, go to bed when projects are done, spend all day studying, regardless of actual time. It doesn’t help that I’m a night owl living with family who wake at 4:30. Once I get a job, I plan on settling into a pattern, but until then it could go either way.

If I mark that I am available for all shifts and all times, or 80% of them, does it come across as desperate? Will the employers believe me? Should I pick a time slot and stick with it? I really just want something to tide me over until a better position, plus give me much needed work experience.

No, it doesn’t come across as desperate, and food service and retail employers will love it. They want people with open availability; those people often go to the top of their stack of applications. You can find more advice on applying to these jobs here.

7. My email was hacked!

I was contacted by two amazing companies that I’d love the opportunity to work for. After I interviewed for both positions, a few days later I woke up to find that my email account was hacked. A link (I’m not sure if it was a virus or just spam) was sent to everyone in my contact list, including everyone who I interviewed with over the last few weeks.

You can imagine how distraught I was. I spent two hours emailing those who received this bad email telling them my account was hacked into, apologizing for any inconvenience this may have caused, and to not click on the link that was sent to them.

Do you think this hacking situation affected my interviewers’ impressions of me, putting me in a negative light? I know it wasn’t my fault and these things happen to people all the time, but out of all the people I interviewed with (a total of 7), I only received a response back from one person telling me not to worry about it. Bad sign? Or do you think they already made up their minds about me as a candidate before the email was even sent to them?

They didn’t care. They deleted the email without even thinking about it. Unless they’re really odd, it’s not going to affect their impression of you at all. Put it out of your mind.

how to apply for a job you’re not fully qualified for

A reader writes:

Reading one of your older posts about those who may be a bit under-qualified for a job, you said that the applicant has to offer a way that they can make up for their lack in experience. Can you give a few examples of what you mean by that? Would offering to start below the starting end of the salary range be a good idea?

Noooo, do not offer to take a lower salary than what they’re planning on. Hiring managers want to hire the best person for the job, they’ve budgeted a certain amount for the position, and they’re not going to take a weaker candidate just because she offers to work for less than the budgeted salary. At least no good hiring manager is going to do that.

The reality is that it’s pretty hard to get hired for jobs that you’re under-qualified for in this market. (The post I think you read was from 2007, when the job market was different.) When employers are flooded with highly qualified applicants, there’s no incentive for them to consider someone less qualified. So if you really consider yourself under-qualified, you might be looking at the wrong jobs. You’re going to have the best chances applying for jobs that you’re qualified for; you don’t have to be a perfect match, but you should be fairly close.

However, there are degrees of qualified. If they want 10 years of experience and you have two years, this probably isn’t the job for you. But if they want 3-5 years of experience and you have two years, and you can write a really good cover letter and point to excellent achievements in those two years, go ahead and apply.

But those caveats about the really good cover letter and the achievements? Those are the key.

Overall, the idea here is to put yourself in the hiring manager’s shoes. What should make them excited about hiring you? That’s what needs to be reflected in your cover letter and your resume. If you can’t figure out why they should be excited about hiring you, then there’s no way you can expect them to figure it out — and that means you need to move on to a different opening, one where you can make a compelling case for yourself.

how to tell a coworker to stop commenting on my hours

A reader writes:

How do I tactfully tell a coworker to stop commenting on my hours? I could do it, but I tend to be snarky, especially when I’m annoyed about something, and I’d like to maintain the appearance of diplomacy.

Here’s the background: I work in accounting. She’s the receptionist. She has to be there from 8:30 to 5 with lunch from 12-1 pm. I don’t. I’m sure her comments are because she’s resentful that she’s the only one in the office that has to work set hours, but that’s not my problem. She also barely fulfills her job functions, but that’s a different problem.

Every day, I’m in between 7 and 7:30 am and I leave around 4 pm. My boss doesn’t have an issue with it; I work better coming in early and leaving later. I take my lunch at 1 pm. Sometimes I don’t take my lunch if I’m busy or if I need to leave early. Usually I leave for lunch around 1 pm, but sometimes I leave later if I’m finishing something up. Some days at work I leave later than 4 pm if I’m finishing something up and I don’t want it sitting there when I come in the morning. Sometimes I leave earlier if I have an appointment or somewhere to be. I should add that my days are usually mostly the same — the times that I leave early aren’t that often. And I never short the company on working time. I get my work done. I know my boss doesn’t have a problem with it because he has told me so. He doesn’t mind as long as we (my other accounting coworker and I) get our jobs done and we are in the office a reasonable amount of hours. He doesn’t mind that we occasionally leave early; he knows that people have stuff to do. And he really doesn’t care what time we take our lunch at. He’s not a clockwatcher.

However, it never fails that every time I leave early, she says something. If I’m in the office after 4 pm, she says something. If I don’t go for lunch right at 1 pm, she says something. If I work though my lunch, she says something. If I come back from lunch earlier than 2 pm, she says something. She doesn’t see that I’m in at 7 am or earlier. And it’s really annoying. I hate having my every move commented on. And it’s not because I’m not letting her know when I’m in and out — we have an in-and-out board, and as far as I can tell I’m the only one that uses and she never updates it or remembers/knows where people are. I’m not sure if I’m the only she makes these comments to or not. Or if I’m the only one that it bothers. Any thoughts? I really want to tell her to mind her own beeswax!

I wrote back to this reader and asked what exactly the receptionist is saying. She replied:

If I leave early, she says, ” must be nice!” or “are you leaving already?”
If I don’t take a lunch, she asks why I’m not taking a lunch.
If I leave late for my lunch, she asks why I haven’t gone yet.
If I come back early, she asks why I’m coming back early.
If I leave after 4, she asks why I’m still there or how come I haven’t left yet.

Ok, now that I write them out, they seem innocent and they aren’t really underhanded comments, but I’m tired of my hours being commented on. I don’t ask her why she’s late every single morning.

I wrote back again, asking: “I could see these comments being genuine attempts at being friendly (although it’s still annoying) or it could be snide/snotty comments. Any sense of which it is when you think back on her tone/general vibe?” The reply:

I’d say it’s half and half. She’s already quite friendly with me and we talk often (too much in my opinion, but that’s neither here nor there — she tends to be an oversharer!) so I don’t think it’s an attempt to be chatty/friendly (and she’s not like that anyhow; she doesn’t go out of her way to be chatty/friendly with people) and while there is no underlying or obvious snideness/snottiness, I still get the impression that she is saying it because she’s resentful (since I happen to know she really doesn’t like her job and her attitude and work ethic quite frankly stink) that I (and others) have the flexibility and she doesn’t. And she’s said comments to me about other staff — like, “I wish I had kids so that I could leave early and pick them up/go to a soccer game/take them to the doctor” Or “I wish I had kids so I could stay home when they are sick,” etc.

Okay, this is useful additional context to have. When I read your original question, I thought her comments were pure snottiness, but now it actually sounds like it’s a combination of trying to chat and be friendly (without realizing that she sounds like she’s judging your hours) and expressing frustration with her own job … but not intending to direct it you.

Regardless, it’s annoying.

If you want to address it, I think you could say something like, “I feel a little odd when you comment on my hours. I can’t tell if you’re implying I should be staying later or something like that.” Or, “I know you don’t mean anything by it, but I feel self-conscious when you comment on my hours.”

If it continues after that, the next time it happens again, you could make a joking reference to your past request — saying something like, “We’re going to need a contract agreeing that you won’t keep commenting on my hours.” (Okay, that’s not a very funny joke, but if you say it in a cheerful tone while smiling, it’ll come across as good-natured.)

But I think ultimately you probably just need to realize that her comments are really just another way of expressing dissatisfaction with her own job and aren’t about you at all. Your boss is happy with your work and your hours, and that’s what matters.

And frankly, since she’s friendly with you, it might be kind at some point to say to her, “You know, you seem pretty unhappy with your job here. Have you thought about looking for something else?”

saying hello and goodbye to coworkers: distracting or polite?

A reader writes:

I was hoping that you might be able to help me out with an etiquette dilemma.

I’m currently in a graduate program, and for the last year, I have been employed on campus as an office clerk. I usually work three or four hours a day, covering lunch for the regular staff. My shifts begin at 10 or 11 and finish at 2. Because of the timing of my arrival and departure, I generally only say “hi” or “goodbye” to the people I share an immediate workspace with (about 3 out of 10 people). If I see the rest of the office staff during my shift, I of course say hello and chat briefly. My reasoning is that I don’t want to distract other staff when I come and go, given that it’s the middle of the workday. Do you think this comes off as rude? Should I be making the rounds each time I come and go?

What you’re doing sounds fine: saying hello to the people in your immediate vicinity but not seeking out others.

For people who have jobs that require focus and concentration, even if only sporadically, it can be really distracting to have someone interrupt you with a greeting (which requires a response) just when you’re in the middle of focusing on something. And yes, that might sound grinch-like to people who aren’t that way, and indeed everyone is not that way, but enough people are — and have work that requires them being that way — that it’s worth being cognizant of it.

And anyone who’s going to get bent out of shape for not getting their very own greeting or good-bye has issues that are about them, not you. You’re there to do a job, and you’re pleasant to the people you encounter while doing that job, but there’s no need to seek people out specifically to toss pleasantries at them.

tiny answer Tuesday — 7 short answers to 7 short questions

It’s tiny answer Tuesday — seven short answers to seven short questions. Here we go…

1. I want to be an employee, not a contractor

I’ve been offered a contracting job with a fantastic company, but I want to be a full employee. They said they’d hire me as an employee if I move to California (where everyone else in the company is), but that isn’t an option for me for at least five years. Is employee-ship something I can negotiate? I know it’s not your area of expertise, but would it cost them a zillion a year to have a New York employee? They make a lot of their money from customers in New York, if that make a difference.

Not a zillion a year, but it’s something of a pain in the ass to set yourself up for employees in a different state if you’re used to having them all in one single state. For instance, New York requires employers who have any employees based there to establish a workers compensation insurance account and a disability insurance account with the state and to make ongoing payments into them, among other statutory requirements. Plus, adding employees in new states means keeping up with (and complying with) employment laws in those states — which can be a not insignificant burden, particularly for a smaller company. None of this means that you can’t try to negotiate it anyway, but you should go into the conversation understanding that you’d be asking them to take on a whole new set of operating fees and bureaucratic headaches.

2. Asking for a raise after getting a bonus

I’ve been in my current position for 2.5 years with only paltry annual cost of living increases that have not kept up with inflation. Unfortunately, my company does not have a practice of conducting regular performance reviews. In the past, I’ve mentioned to my boss and our department head that I would appreciate having a review so that I can get a sense for how I’m doing. About seven months ago, they surprised me with an impromptu review in which the feedback was 100% positive, and they then solicited my feedback on my job and our department and presented me with a nice bonus. Since I wasn’t expecting this review, I was not prepared to discuss my overall compensation.

I have an excellent relationship with my boss and the department head, and know from informal feedback that they continue to be very pleased with me. In fact, just last month our department head said to me (jokingly), “You’re never allowed to leave!” so I feel I’m in good standing to ask for a raise. However, is it too soon to ask them for a raise in light of the bonus? If not, would I approach my direct supervisor or my department head about this? I suspect my boss does not have authority to approve a raise. And should I approach them in person prepared to discuss it on the spot, or would it be better to ask in advance for a meeting to discuss this?

It’s not too soon. A bonus doesn’t impact your salary on an ongoing basis; it’s different than a raise. I’d approach your manager, not your manager’s manager, because even if she doesn’t have the authority to approve it on her own, you shouldn’t go over her head. She deals with plenty of things that she doesn’t have the authority to approve on her own, but that doesn’t mean that you go around her — same thing applies here. As for whether to ask for a special meeting or not, you could — or you could just bring it up at your next regular meeting with her. But this is definitely a conversation to have in the context of a meeting (either existing or scheduled just for this); don’t just pop into her office randomly one day.

3. Where is my job offer?

I interviewed for a position within municipal government on December 20 and was contacted by phone on December 31 by the hiring manager, who verbally offered me the job. Following a brief discussion over salary and potential start date, I verbally accepted and asked when I should expect a written offer. The manager said he would forward my information to human resources and that they should be in touch with me about the formal offer. I was warned by the manager during the interview and during this phone conversation that the HR department typically moves more slowly than he would like, so I was prepared for the hiring process to take some time; however, it has now been nearly three weeks since I received the verbal offer and I have still not been contacted by human resources. I have exchanged a couple of emails with the hiring manager letting him know that I still have yet to hear from HR, and he has responded to say that he is looking into it and later responded that I should be hear something soon, but friends and colleagues that I’ve talked with seem to think this delay is unusual. Should I be concerned and/or consider moving on with my job search at this point?

Some employers really do take this long, and he did warn you about it in advance. But why not ask him to give you a sense of what timeline you should expect, so that you have some information to work with? Meanwhile, though, you’ve got to abide by the “you don’t have a real offer until you have the offer” principle, which means that if you’d be job searching if this offer hadn’t happened, then you should continue that search. (To be clear, that doesn’t mean that I think this sounds like it’s going to fall apart; I don’t. But until you have that formal offer, you risk something changing.)

4. Interview wear when blazers don’t fit you well

Reading through your posts, I’ve noticed you highly recommend people wear suits. My problem is that every time I put on a blazer I completely lose my confidence. I’m a little broad shouldered and on the short side (5’3″) and I feel like a football player when I wear a blazer. I’ve had several of them and never end up wearing them to interviews because I just don’t feel confident wearing them — I just think I’d be self-conscious the whole time and it would affect my interview. I never get ones with shoulder pads to avoid the bulk and I’ve tried on expensive ones, cheap ones, different shapes and styles and I just don’t feel I look like a professional adult in them, but rather a child in dad’s suit jacket. Is it better not to wear a suit and be confident? I normally wear a high-quality LBD and a simple black cardigan over it.

Same rule as always: Know your industry. In some industries, the outfit you described would be absolutely fine. In others, it wouldn’t not be considered sufficiently professional. So you’ve got to know what’s expected in your industry (and more specifically, in your industry in your geographic area).

But on the discomfort issue: Have you tried a tailor? A good tailor can usually fix the problems you’re describing.

5. How to count years of work experience

When people ask how many years of work experience I have, how should I answer? Do they generally mean how many years of full-time experience, or how many years of experience in a particular field?

I didn’t follow the normal routine of graduating at 22, working a few years, then doing my MBA. Instead, I often balanced 2-3 different jobs which essentially added up to a full 40-60 hour work schedule until I got through college (3 degrees which are unrelated to each other but all miraculously relevant in my current position). I started working when I was 14 years old, which would mean 17 years of work experience spread out over 8 employers. This includes waiting tables, running my own online business, and working for the university. Although I gained a lot of valuable skills such as the ability to multi-task, manage others, and prioritize, I am new to my chosen career path (marketing), which means people make references to my limited work experience when considering my job responsibilities. On the one hand, I get amazing performance reviews from people who didn’t expect such quality contributions from an entry level employee like me. On the other hand, I feel like I can be selling myself better to get higher earnings based on the strengths I have built over the years.

There’s no one right answer to this question, but usually when people ask how much experience you have, they’re talking about professional full-time (or close to full-time) experience. I’d leave out anything pre-college, since if you’re 30 and you say that you have 20 years of experience, it’s not going to ring true to people (and usually they’re not including waiting tables, etc. in the question). It’s also fine to say “X years in marketing, but Y years overall.” But really, your ability to sell yourself isn’t going to be based on how you answer this question; it’s going to be about what accomplishments you can point to and how you can tie them to the work you’d be doing for whoever you’re talking to. That’s where I’d keep your focus.

6. Being asked to work on Valentine’s Day

I am a waitress in California. I saw my schedule today and I am scheduled to work on Valentine’s Day. I am a full-time student and have school all day that day. My manager says I need to find someone to cover the shift because school is not an excuse. I know each company probably has their own policy, but it’s not a national holiday and I just want to know if this is wrong or right.

It’s pretty typical for hospitality workers to be expected to work holidays like Valentine’s Day and to be asked to find a sub for the shift if they can’t. There’s nothing wrong with asking not to be scheduled that day because of school, but your manager is also within his rights to tell you that he needs you there.

7. Messaging LinkedIn contacts on my husband’s behalf

My husband and I relocated last fall to a new country for my job. It was a fantastic move for us both because his field is much more in demand in our new area. He had to wait a few months for his employment authorization paperwork to go through, and now that he has it, is excited to be looking for work. However, his LinkedIn profile isn’t very developed since he is not a big fan of social networking (he also does not have a Facebook profile). He’s going to work on improving it, but in the meantime, would it be strange or spammy for me to message my LinkedIn contacts on his behalf? I would keep it very short and upbeat, just saying that we had recently relocated, he’s excited to be looking for work in his field, and I would appreciate it if they could let me know if they hear of something. What is your take on the etiquette around this?

Meh. I think it’s fine when you’re contacting friends and family, but if you’re going to send the message to people you don’t know that well, you risk it looking bad that he’s not networking on his own behalf (especially when LinkedIn makes it so easy to see which of your connections he might want to reach out to). I also wouldn’t do it via LinkedIn if he himself doesn’t have much of a LinkedIn profile — that’s the first place your message recipients are likely to look to learn more, and if his profile is barren, it’s not going to make a great impression. But he should be able to put together a decent LinkedIn profile in an evening — why not have him do that first?

(Also, it’s entirely possible I’m being too rigid about it being weird to do on his behalf. Anyone want to argue it’s fine?)