my new networking group uses high-pressure sales tactics

A reader writes:

As these networking and referral groups proliferate, I may not be the only one with this type of question. I appreciate your thoughts.

I’m a professional, with a professional degree in the field in which I work. I receive a salary, but also half of whatever business I bring to the company. When I announced to a group of friends on facebook that I had joined a new company and that I do X, Y and Z work, should anyone be in need, one friend invited me to a networking and referral group of which she is a member. I went to a couple of meetings, liked some of the people involved, and discussed with my boss, who thought it was a great idea and generously offered to pay for my membership (which is not cheap).

As I get further into this networking and referral group, however, I’m having reservations. I am not a salesperson. I feel very uncomfortable with some of the sales tactics employed, and the pressure to employ those tactics to promote not only my own business, but other members’ businesses on social networking sites, etc. Because of my profession, I am bound to be sure that the other professionals to whom I am referring my clients are what they seem to be (and to stay professional, not to hawk candles and cleaning products on my facebook page). I am making the effort to get to know some of the other members (though there are some I prefer not to get to know). There are a few people in the group, also new members, with whom I really do believe I could establish good referral relationships — part of the reason is that these peoples’ businesses naturally compliment my own. These few are not really salespeople, either, and we’ve discussed our reservations privately, but they’re not sure how to respond to these pressures, either.

There’s also pressure to buy from the home-based businesses which make up about half of the membership – their products include candles, cleaning products, jewelry, etc. It’s all overpriced and nothing I would normally buy – moreover, on my salary, I really can’t afford those “extras.” I get the impression that the thought is “If you don’t buy a candle, I won’t use you when I need a [insert my profession here].” (For what it’s worth, if candle-lady referred me a good client and fee, I would consider it a cost of doing business to buy a candle with part of that fee.)

The other major pressure is to get friends and acquaintances to visit a meeting – the thought being that about one out of every ten visitors becomes a member. I’m having trouble doing this, because, again, I’m not a salesperson. If someone tells me no, they don’t need my services, or no, they aren’t interested in a networking group, I say “ok!” and change the subject. I’m not at all sure that this group is right for me, but as my boss has already paid my membership fee, I need to play this game, without compromising my values and manners, and get out of it what I can. (I haven’t had a chance to discuss this in-depth with my boss, but I know her well enough that I’m sure she’d be uncomfortable in the same situation, she is not a salesperson-type personality either.) How can I put my reservations on hold and make something of what could be a good opportunity? Am I thinking about this all wrong?

This doesn’t sound like a networking group. It sounds like a sales group, with a small potential for networking on the side.

I’d quit the group. It doesn’t sound like whatever benefits you’re getting from it are outweighing the fairly significant disadvantages, like inappropriately pressuring your friends and family, buying products you don’t want, and promoting businesses you don’t feel comfortable promoting. And in fact, any venture that does these things is usually a venture that you don’t want to be involved with.

I think you’re hesitating because you’re wondering if maybe you’d be more comfortable if you were just more of a “natural salesperson” — but that’s not why you’re feeling uncomfortable. You’re feeling uncomfortable because the group’s practices are legitimately sketchy.

See if you can get the membership fee back, at least prorated for whatever portion of the time you paid for won’t be used — but if you can’t, consider just repaying your boss so that you can drop out without qualms. (And your boss is likely to tell you not to repay her, but you should at least offer.)

Read an update to this letter here.

short answer Saturday — 6 short answers to 6 short questions

It’s short answer Saturday — six short answers to six short questions. Here we go…

1. Company is letting me choose whether to interview by phone or in person

I had a phone message and email from an HR person about a position I applied for. Both mentioned wanting to schedule an interview. I called back as directed and agreed to the time they suggested, less than one week from now. After the date and time were set, she asked me if this would be on the phone or in-person. I was taken aback, because I assumed it would be on the phone. I also thought it was weird that it was up to me. Wouldn’t they set that? I told them I would let them know later today. She didn’t seem to care very much, but I do want to let them know quickly.

I don’t live in the same state and would realistically need to fly to make it there without taking lots of time off. I’m leaning towards doing the interview via phone right now, but I’m a little concerned it will hurt me if I am not there in-person. The cost to fly there may decide it for me. Do you think it’s OK to do a phone interview at this time? I was thinking that perhaps the next step, if that goes well, would be an-person interview.

Yes, it’s weird that they didn’t specify which they’d prefer. However, since they’re leaving it up to you and you’d need to fly there to do it in-person, I’d do it over the phone for now. If things go well and you’re both still interested, offer to come there in person for the next conversation.

If you run into this in the future, ask whether it’s an initial screen or a longer, in-depth interview, as well as whether they plan additional rounds of interviews beyond that. If there won’t be second interviews, then you’re better off going in person.

2. Managing without authority

I’m a supervisor in a call center, and while I am required to discipline people (write them up), whether the write-up sticks is HR’s call and they have firing authority. Sometimes, they seem to follow the process, and fire people when the handbook says they’re in danger of being fired. But sometimes an employee reaches the same level of disciplinary action, sometimes in multiple performance categories, and they’re inexplicably kept on. To the surprise of no one, these people generally still continue to have performance issues, like the person who took a 2 week “vacation” without actually clearing it with scheduling, resulting in a 2 week no call, no show. After they were allowed to come back, I found them sleeping on the job. What’s going on here? Turnover is very high, and I think there’s pressure to keep people on phones, but I don’t see how not firing helps, especially if the employee has attendance problems. And is there anything I can do to make sure my own write-ups stick and are given the proper weight? (So far I haven’t been in this kind of situation myself, but I probably will, since it seems like it’s happening more often.)

What’s going on is abysmal management above you. You can certainly talk to HR about the importance of employees seeing that there are consistent consequences, as well as your need to not have employees who sleep on the job, but horrible managers usually remain horrible managers. (By the way, I’m assuming that the reason HR has so much power is because this is a call center, which often operates differently. Normally, HR shouldn’t be making these calls rather than direct managers.)

3. Former colleague is trying to rile me up when I applied with the company again

I used to work for a company a few years back and was let go with 95% of the workforce due to a buy-out. I saw a job opening and applied with this company again. I received an email from one of the corporate directors that openly questioned my job title and my ability. This person also lured me into an argument with him, as he tried to question my abilities, and he actually told me I must be struggling to have applied with the company. It went back and forth, and he even said a couple of people that stayed were “doing just fine” in an attempt to rile me more, and that they definitely kept the “A team.” I would like to send this email to his HR department. Do I need to seek legal counsel to cover myself before I do this?

No. But this guy sounds like an ass, and you shouldn’t let yourself get riled up by such obvious jerkiness.

4. Applying with IT jobs without prior IT titles

Currently I am trying to get an entry-level IT position, but my experience in the workforce under the label of “IT” is lacking, even though my past positions have called for the knowledge of machinery, and on more than one occasion I have had to fulfill the duties of someone who worked for the Help Desk by fixing or setting up machines in the office I worked. I also have extensive hands-on training and multiple certificates qualifying me as an MCITP. Does this not count as experience I can put on my resume under the label as help desk experience or IT, even if the position I held was labeled as “office support”?

Sure. You can’t change your past job titles on your resume, but you can make sure to clearly describe the I.T.-related work that you did there, and highlight it in your cover letter.

5. Is this company charity drive mandatory?

I have a question about company charity drives for the holidays. Today, I received the following email from the company president’s personal assistant: “This year, [President] has requested we buy gifts for families not able to purchase their own… [President] would like each of us to spend about $25 on a gift, but you can obviously spend more if you’re feeling especially charitable.”

Is it implying that participating is mandatory? I’m worried because a) as the youngest and possibly lowest paid person in the company, I really don’t have $25 to spend for this — I’ll be lucky if my parents get gifts this year. Also, I used to work for a children-based non-profit, like the ones this gift would go to, and if I am able to give back, I’d prefer to give to my old nonprofit. What are my options here? Do I just ignore the entire thing and hope it goes away? My company culture is super uncomfortable at times, and the president can be very strict and demanding, but I’m not sure if that spills over onto this.

Ignore the email and assume it’s not mandatory. If someone follows up with you, explain that you support the drive but you’re not able to contribute financially.

6. Listing a current temp job on a resume

I managed to get hired as a temp at a local mortgage office, and they recently have expressed that they really like the work I’ve been doing and would like to increase my hours from 3 to 8 per day. I’ve been learning a lot and this is my first experience working in a non-academic office. Plus there are only 6 of us (including myself), so I have tons of work to do and have had increasingly more responsibility.

I’ve only been there 3 weeks so far, and I’m not sure how long the assignment is, but would it look weird if I put it on my resumé? For some context, the “big-girl” jobs that I’m applying to are mainly office-assistant/program-assistant jobs at nonprofits, and my other administrative experience listed on my resumé comes from a work-study position and a volunteer position in my church. This job is by far the most involved, even though it’s temping. What are your thoughts?

Sure, you can put it on there. Just be sure to indicate that it’s a temporary job, so that the places you’re applying don’t wonder why you’re looking to leave after such a short period of time.

fast answer Friday — 7 short answers to 7 short questions

It’s fast answer Friday — seven short answers to seven short questions. Here we go…

1. Email address when job searching

When looking for a job, do you have to get a new email addressed based on your name as opposed to a nickname, or do hiring managers really not care? I’m not talking “imhot4U” or anything. But I don’t have an email with my initial/last name, or first name.last name. I’ve gotten conflicting advice and I don’t necessarily need another email account.

It depends on what the nickname is, but in general, email addresses based on your name are going to sound the most professional. (And also will be the least confusing. It’s always mildly confusing when Kate Jones emails her resume from sarah17@__.com.)

2. Isn’t booting up my computer part of work time?

I want to know why I’m expected to have my computer up and running by my start time. I work at a call center and am told that I must get my computer programs open and be ready to answer phones at the start time. In order to accomplish that, I need to log in and open programs. Isn’t this considered working? If I give only 5 minutes a day to this task, it adds up to 25 a week. Over the course of a month, that would be over an hour and a half. When I expressed this issue, I was told that being on time and adhering to the schedule is crucial to my retaining this job. Am I wrong to think that starting up the computer is part of working? I feel like this seems to be a petty issue, so I would like clarification.

Are you clocked in while you’re booting up your computer? If so, and you’re being paid for that time, this is perfectly legal; it’s just a question of realizing that your “start time” is actually five minutes earlier — 8:55 rather than 9:00, or whatever. However, if you’re not clocked in and not being paid for that time, that’s illegal.

3. My boss is angry that we didn’t question her own managers

My boss was sick for five weeks and is now picking apart how our office handled things in her absence. She’s been at this for about three weeks now. In her absence, her bosses gave us templates emails and instructions on who to send them out to. My boss is telling us we should have questioned them as to why they were being sent to those people and possibly even the content their templates contained. Her bosses both have PhDs and are privy to a lot of confidential information. I looked them over and corrected grammar and spelling if it needed to be corrected, but basically my coworkers and I see it as our job as admin assistants to facilitate doing what they say and not question certain things. Is it our job to really be questioning them on who to send emails to if they say to send them to “X” group? She’s been picking apart many, many things we had to handle while she was gone, so I could be overreacting. Does she sound right in this?

If it was abundantly clear that the instructions your boss’s bosses gave you were problematic, and you didn’t say anything solely because you didn’t feel it was your place, even though you had context that they didn’t have, then I could see your manager being concerned that you didn’t speak up. However, even then, she should understand why you didn’t and should simply explain to you when and how it’s appropriate to push back in that kind of situation in the future. And if that’s not the case — if you couldn’t have known that there was a problem with what her bosses were asking you to do — then she’s out of line.

4. My boss is a jerk

We recently won a new contract on a tight budget. They created a position that is two positions in one, every day running of the service and addressing minor issues with staff. I took this position to progress within the company and because I had achieved all I could in my previous job.

The expectations of this new job are unrealistic, but I do my best to try and met them anyway. I stay late at work and work weekends to try and get it all done. Occasionally something will slip through the net and my manager goes nuts. Rather than excepting it’s a part of human error, he addresses it by humiliating me in front of my colleagues. He will joke I’m going to lose my job or make general comments implying I’m incompetent. When this happens, he will berate you over it, and he gets annoyed if you try and explain why it’s happened and gets annoyed if you say nothing. He also has a new level of micromanagement that didn’t occur in my previous position. He will even get annoyed about things that aren’t my fault. He once said I didn’t do a piece of work when it was agreed I would do it in a meeting. I then pointed out I wasn’t even at work that day!

I have tried to talk to him and he just says I shouldn’t have taken the job. It’s not the job that’s making me unhappy, it’s his way of management. How can I address this?

Your boss is a jerk and a bad manager and probably isn’t going to change (especially given his response when you tried to talk to him about it). So you have to decide if you want the job on these terms and can find a way to work with him and still be reasonably content … or if you don’t.

5. I want to go back to the company I left after six months

I am looking to get back in working for a corporation I used to work for, but in a different city. I only worked for this company for 6 months before I quit, as I accepted an offer from another company that I had applied at long before I had a job (not same industry). The new job didn’t work out (the supervisor is the owner’s young son) after a few months and I left that company. My manager at the first company wasn’t too happy that after months of training I walked out and left the company. I gave 2 weeks notice, etc. and left the company on good terms as much as possible. My coworkers weren’t that great (they were unionized and I wasn’t), which is why I accepted the other offer. Now a position that I had with the first company has opened up in another city far away from my current city and would have a different manager (no union BS in that area either). What should I say in my cover letter to regain the new job with the old company?

Don’t attempt this. You left a job after they trained you for six months; they have no reason to hire you back and plenty of incentive not to. You’ll come across as if you don’t understand that doing that means you won’t be welcomed back — which means now you won’t just be the guy who left after six months; you’ll be the guy who left after six months and doesn’t think it’s a big deal.

6. Is this a good sign?

I know that every situation is different, but I had an interview for an HR position and it lasted 2 hours. Is this a good sign? I keep going back and forth on it. At the end of the interview, I was told they would be doing second interviews, and the HR Director took me around and introduced me to the other members of HR. It has been almost a week though and no word. Any thoughts?

I know it’s tempting to believe that a long interview and introductions to other employees is a good sign, but unfortunately it doesn’t really mean anything you can count on. A long interview could just be an unskilled interviewer or someone poor at time management. Being introduced around might be something they do with everyone, or with everyone they remotely like. Or both of these things could be good signs — but that’s no guarantee of an offer.

Did you find out their timeline for next steps? If that passes without any word from them, you can follow up at that point. Or, if you didn’t ask about their timeline, wait another week and check back in.

7. My coworker isn’t working the same hours as everyone else

How do I let my manager, the fire chief, know something without looking like a tattle? Our hours are 7:30 – 5 M-F, with every other Friday off because we all work a 9-80 schedule. The chief’s assistant comes in at 8ish everyday and then sits at her desk to apply her makeup for the next 30 – 45 minutes. The chief is not in the office that early so is unaware. I feel she should not be on the 9/80 schedule if she is not going to work those hours. How do I let the chief know without looking like I am tattling? I am so upset with this that I have gut rot because of my anger in everyone not being treated the same.

If this doesn’t impact your work, it’s not your problem to solve. Unless you have a very close relationship with your boss, I can’t see any way you could bring this up without looking petty.

The reality is that everyone is not always treated the same at work. Work isn’t really about fairness; it’s about your organization meeting their goals, and the details of how they do that may not always look fair or even reasonable to you. If that’s going to give you gut rot (which sounds terrible), your gut is likely to be in danger anywhere you work. It’s going to be far better for your quality of life to let this go.

10 myths managers believe … and why they’re wrong

Managers have a surprisingly number of deeply held beliefs that are sometimes just plain wrong. Here are 10 of the most common.

1. Myth: If you want to know what your employees really think, give them an anonymous survey.

Fact: Many employees don’t believe anonymous surveys are really anonymous. And they worry about jeopardizing their standing if they say anything negative. If you really want to know what your employees think, the best way to find out is to create an environment where they know it’s safe for them to speak with you candidly.

2. Myth: Low employee turnover is a sign that you’re doing something right.

Fact: Strong organizations generally have “good turnover”: They let go of employees who don’t meet a high bar while retaining those who do. Little or no turnover is often a bad sign since no one is perfect in hiring, and low turnover can indicate a manager who doesn’t correct her hiring mistakes or hold employees to a high bar.

3. Myth: A good way to reward employees for hard work is with a team dinner out or a party.

Fact: Managers often assume that employees see staff parties or social events as a treat – and some do. But not everyone wants to socialize with their coworkers, especially outside of work hours, and some people resent being asked or expected to attend such events when they’d rather just be doing their work. If you’re seeking ways to reward employees, make sure that you’re not inadvertently giving them something they won’t enjoy and might even resent.< 4. Myth: The First Amendment guarantee of free speech means that you can’t interfere with what employees say at work, even if they’re making others uncomfortable.

Fact: The First Amendment prevents the government from restricting people’s speech, but not a private employer. Employers can indeed interfere with employee speech at work – for instance, directing them not to discuss politics or push their religion on others. (An important exception to this is that employers cannot interfere with employees who are discussing wages or working conditions with their coworkers.)

5. Myth: It’s not worth checking references, because no job candidate lists references who will say anything bad about them.

Fact: A surprising number of candidates offer references who end up sharing damaging information about them, or who provide a lukewarm endorsement at best. What’s more, checking references shouldn’t just be about getting a thumbs-up or thumbs-down on a candidate anyway; it should be about asking probing questions to ensure you’re really hiring the right person for this particular job. Your candidate might be a lovely person with supportive references, but if her strengths aren’t in the areas you need, that’s information you want to hear.

6. Myth: When you’re called for a reference for a past employee, you shouldn’t comment beyond just confirming the person’s title and dates of employment.< Fact: Giving detailed, honest references is legal. It’s true that some companies, in an effort to avoid the headache of nuisance lawsuits, have implemented policies that they’ll only confirm dates of employment and title. As a result, many people have come to believe that it’s actually illegal to give a bad reference. But corporate policies aren’t the law. They’re often not even followed by the companies that have them. It’s both legal and common for employers to give detailed references – and can be an enormous help in hiring the right person.

7. Myth: An employee can agree to waive overtime pay when they work extra hours, as long as it’s truly voluntary.

Fact: Non-exempt employees – those who are legally entitled to earn overtime when they work more than 40 hours within a week – must be paid overtime. They can’t waive that right, no matter how voluntarily. Nor can you substitute comp time, unless it’s taken within the same week. If you manage non-exempt employees, it’s worth familiarizing yourself with the laws around how they must be compensated, since it’s not always intuitive.

8. Myth: It’s okay to put off doing performance evaluations or even skip them altogether, since employees hate them anyway.

Fact: Many employees crave feedback and are counting on the evaluation process to give them a formal opportunity to discuss their work. Plus, if you procrastinate on evaluations and don’t provide them on time (or at all), you signal that you don’t care about your staff members’ performance or development. That’s not a signal you want to send.< 9. Myth: If you let people work from home, you won’t be able to tell if they’re really working or not.

Fact: You don’t need face time with someone in order to know if they’re working or not. If you focus on what results they’re achieving, you’ll be able to measure their performance whether they’re sitting down the hall from you or miles away. And you’ll often have a more productive, more satisfied staff as well.

10. Myth: It’s okay to call someone while they’re on vacation if you don’t do it regularly.

Fact: Employees might tell you that you can call them while they’re away, but they’re generally not happy about it if you do. Unless something is an earth-shaking emergency, respect employees’ need to truly unplug and relax – and protect them from coworkers who might interfere with their time away too. Not only will you make them happier to be working for you, but you’ll probably see a pay-off in productivity when they return too. Most people do better with breaks now and then.

references for bad employees

A reader writes:

This past summer, I worked as a supervisor for a pool management company, meaning that I oversaw the operations of nine neighborhood pools and managed about 50-60 life guards. Since this is often the first job they have, lifeguards do not always come with a sound work ethic.

Recently — after the season had ended — two lifeguards who worked at one of my pools contacted me asking whether they should list me as their reference as opposed to my direct supervisor, the Operations Manager. I told them to list me because 1. I was their direct supervisor during the summer and was more closely involved with their job performance and 2. the Operations Manager was fired before the pool season ended (I should note that I was only seasonally employed — I no longer work as a supervisor).

Unfortunately, these lifeguards were not very good employees. One consistently lied to me about why she couldn’t show up to work and did a half-good job, while the other never really took her tasks seriously. Although, I could probably muster up some positive remarks for the second guard.

Should I have told them not to list me because I don’t intend to give them positive references? Or if contacted, should I proceed to “tell it like it is” to the inquirer and hope that it will provide a learning experience for these lifeguards? Or should I refer the inquirer to someone higher up who still works at the company during the offseason?

You should give them a heads-up now that you won’t be able to give them a positive reference. It’s not really fair to tell someone to use you as a reference without warning them that it won’t be a good one; usually people interpret “you can use me as a reference” to mean “I’ll speak positively of you.” So ideally, when they first asked you, you would have said something like, “I don’t think I’d be able to be a good reference for you, because of your work this summer.”

However, you can still say it now — and you should, because otherwise they’re going to offer people your name as a reference, not realizing it won’t reflect well on them. Go back to them now and say, “This is a little awkward, but after you asked me about a reference, I thought about it more and realized that I wouldn’t be a great reference for you, because of our concerns about your work this summer. I’d rather tell you now than not have you realize that you shouldn’t send reference-checkers to me.”

By the way, I’m hoping that this won’t be the first time they’ll be hearing that you weren’t happy with their work. Hopefully you were giving them feedback while they were still working for you, letting them know that they were falling short of expectations, so this shouldn’t be a shock to them. And in fact, in the future when you’re dealing with subpar performance, you might specifically point out to people that it’s the kind of thing that will affect future references — since, as you note, it’s often their first job and they may not quite understand that.

titles that don’t match job duties

A reader writes:

I work in hospitality and am slowly transitioning from this being “a job” to cultivating a career. I am currently employed by one company, but was rather aggressively pursed by the general manager of a different company to come work for him. After several meetings (both phone and in person), he offered me a position he and the district manager created specifically for me, outlined the salary and duties, I accepted, and he began the background check. It’s a position I’m extremely excited about, as it is more creative, gives me more responsibility, and the company itself affords a wider range of advancement opportunities than the company I am with right now.

However, things have stalled with HR — individual locations are not allowed to create positions; they may only hire for corporate sanctioned positions that have a built-in pay scale. The GM who recruited me told me not to worry, they’ll figure it out. What concerns me is the solution they are considering. The existing positions that have titles similar to what they want me to do are well below the pay scale they promised, so he is thinking of finding a position that has the pay scale and hire me as that — regardless of title.

What this may mean is, instead of being, say, a “Banquet Manager” and doing the duties of that position as intended, I might be hired as “Bookkeeper,” paid the rate of a Bookkeeper, but do the tasks of a Banquet Manager. While I would love to come work for this company, this “solution” is troubling me. What do you think about title discrepancies? Does the value of getting this new experience with a new company outweigh the dangers of not having a reflective title, and therefore paper trail?

It would trouble me too. I’d want to know more about what it would mean in practice. Would you be able to use a more accurate title in your day-to-day work — for instance, would your email signature and business cards and listing in the company directory identify you as a bookkeeper or as a banquet manager? If you’re being presented to coworkers and the outside world as something drastically different than what you are, that’s a problem and is going to make it harder to do your job.

Title does matter — it affects how people deal with you, how much authority they perceive you as having, and what questions and issues they do and don’t bring to you.

Furthermore, it will affect you the next time you’re looking for a job. You need know that if a prospective employer calls to verify your employment there, they’re going to be told you were a banquet manager, not that you were a bookkeeper. And you need to know that they’ll be told that by anyone they happen to talk to, not just your direct manager — meaning that if the new person in HR who just started last week and has no idea who you are looks you up in their system, there’s a safeguard to ensure that she doesn’t tell the reference-checker that you were a bookkeeper.

So you need to find out if this is just going to be your title in computer systems that won’t impact you in any way other than how they pay you, or if it’s going to be part of your identity at work. If it’s truly only the former, it may not matter — just make sure to find out.

terse answer Thursday — 7 short answers to 7 short questions

It’s terse answer Thursday — seven short answers to seven short questions. Here we go…

1. Company is acting like I’m already gone now that I’ve given notice

I received a job offer in a different state but similar industry on Halloween and accepted. I gave my notice Nov. 1 and am leaving Nov. 16. I am the third person (there are only 7 of us) to leave my department in less than one month. I’m noticing that even though I have two full weeks left, many of my projects have been taken away and I’m being left off emails that I need to know about.

My senior manager put in his two weeks notice at the beginning of October and we noticed he had given us all of his projects and wasn’t answering some questions or just saying to ask someone else when we had questions. At first, I thought it was incredibly unprofessional but now that I’m in his same position, I understand that this must be what my company does. Even though I’m leaving, I have a great amount of loyalty and respect to my coworkers and would like to help them by finishing my projects instead of adding to their stress. What can I do? I feel very sad that the company is pushing me out like this especially when I care so much. I could have just given them one day notice if they were going to do this.

It’s not unusual for a company to begin moving someone’s projects to other people once they give notice; in fact, it makes sense to do that while you’re still there so that you’re available for questions in the beginning (rather than waiting until you’re already gone). People also sometimes jump the gun and start moving on to whatever will be their new normal before it’s officially time to do so, which could explain why you’re being left off of emails that you still need to know about. Or, alternately, there might be no good explanation for this stuff and your company just sucks at handling resignations; that’s not uncommon either.

Either way, though, don’t take it personally. It’s clearly not personal. Just work out your notice period and leave things in as good of shape as possible for your replacement; it’s up to your company how much they want to utilize you during your remaining time.

2. Employer shared info on everyone’s payroll deductions

My employer emailed the entire company with updated information about our health insurance plan. Included in that email was a spreadsheet containing payroll deduction amounts, depending on how much coverage we had subscribed to. That would have been fine if they had just said “x dollars comes out per month for people who get single coverage versus x dollars for those on the family plan.”

However, my employer listed by name exactly how much money each person had coming out of his or her paycheck every month. I felt very uncomfortable about it because everyone could see what everyone else is spending on the plan, as well as what kind of coverage they had selected. I think they meant well…but I have to ask…is sharing information about other employees’ payroll deductions or health care plan choices illegal?

I can’t think of any law that would violate. (Someone is going to suggest HIPAA, but HIPAA only covers information released by medical professionals.) But you could certainly point out to whoever sent the email that they inadvertently violated people’s privacy.

3. What does this email mean?

I got the following rejection email for a position I applied for that university I am interning at:

“The Sciences Librarian search committee has carefully gone over the many applications for the position. At this time, you have not been selected for a phone interview. I would encourage you to continue to look for openings at UMW Libraries because we truly value the work that you have done for us and we have also enjoyed working with you.”

Should I read anything into this? Mind you, they do NOT send out e-mails to rejected candidates usually. I knew that I wasn’t a perfect fit for it, as I did not have a sciences undergraduate degree. I was told that there may be something coming down the pike three weeks ago, but have not seen this particular (and better) job posted. Should I ask about it? I don’t want to look desperate, but would love to work where at this place.

Take it at face value: They’ve enjoyed working with you and would be glad to consider you if you apply in the future. And it’s fine to ask them about the job you heard about.

4. Declining an interview because I don’t have transportation

I’ve contacted over 30 organizations trying to find some place to intern, and I finally found someplace that said they’d love to talk to me about doing an internship.

I can’t drive, so I have to take public transportation. The walk to the nearest bus stop is 25 minutes, and then the rest of the commute via bus, subway and a little more walking is about an hour. My mom had said before that she’d drive me to the bus stop for any place I wanted to intern to help decrease commuting times, so it would be about an hour commute if she dropped me off at the bus stop. But the place that agreed to chat with me is apparently in a bad neighborhood with high crime rates, so my mom won’t drive me to the bus stop because she thinks “risking” my life isn’t worth getting experience that I need, so now I won’t be able to do the internship. (Spending two hours to commute to/from an unpaid position seems tolerable to me, but three hours isn’t.) I don’t know what to say to the organization about declining to come in and talk to them. Telling them the truth is just going to make me sound incredibly unprofessional and infantile. Do you have any suggestions? I’m really upset and can’t think of anything.

Just say that you weren’t able to arrange transportation so need to decline their offer to meet, but that you’d love to follow up with them in the future if your transportation situation changes. You don’t need to mention your mom.

5. Employers think it’s too much trouble for me to come to an interview

I currently work at a healthcare clinic (have been here for 2 years), and unfortunately the lack of business led my boss to make a decision to close this business forever. We are like family, and they are aware I am actively seeking a job and will not even require me to give 2 weeks notice (although I will regardless). When potential employers contact me for interviews, can I tell them I am currently working in a place that is about to close? Because that is the reason I tell them when they ask me why I am looking to leave my job, but I believe some places feel it is trouble for me to show up at a interview due to my schedule or they don’t want to be rude to my current employer by having me come in, even though I always make it on time and my coworkers and boss have no problem whatsoever with me being excused for the day or for an hour or two to do an interview. I just feel that being a little too honest is not getting me anywhere. I feel that way because I have yet to land a job, and when I lie and say I am NOT working, I seem to get the interview date much quicker then saying that I am working right now.

The majority of people who interview for jobs are already employed. It’s very, very odd that you’re encountering employers who think it will be too much trouble for your current employer for you to interview, which makes me think that there’s something about the way you’re explaining this that’s triggering that response. When asked why you’re leaving your current job, you should simply say that the company is closing its doors soon. If an interviewer expresses concern about your ability to get away for an interview (which, again, would be very strange), you should simply say, “Not at all, my employer knows I’m interviewing and encouraged me to take any time I need.”

6. Team work and cover letters

I’m a recent engineering graduate and have 2 short questions about how to best tailor my cover letter: First, although its a long shot, I’m applying to some companies that don’t always post specific job openings, but have “open” postings or email addresses. The problem is that with no specific job skills/requirements (or vague ones), it can be hard to try and give concrete examples in a cover letter of why you would be suitable to work there. Is it just a matter of trying to summarise your best attributes on your cover letter?

Second, a lot of engineering companies want to know you can work well in a team. I have lots of experience doing this from my student life, but what’s the best way to discuss/phrase this in a cover letter?

For your first question: There must be some reason you’re applying and think you’d do well at the job, right? That’s what you talk about in your cover letter. (And if there’s not, reconsider why you’re applying.)

About showing that you can work as a team: It’s not something I’d put a ton of focus on in a cover letter because it’s rarely among the primary qualifications an employer is looking for, but I’d come prepared for examples to talk about in your interview. And if you have team-based accomplishments, you can include those on your resume.

7. Discussing salary expectations

I am a legal/administrative assistant. Lately one of the questions I am receiving when called for an interview is what my expected salary range is. My last position paid $16.78 per hour, but most employers today don’t want to pay more than $10-$12 per hour to start. I’m afraid if I tell them my last salary it will scare the pajeebers out of them, yet considering the complexity of the job, I don’t want to work for $10 or $12 per hour, espectially true if I have to drive more than 8-10 miles to work. Any advice that would help me escape from between the rock and a hard place would be appreciated.

Well, if you’re not willing to work for $10-12 per hour and that’s what they’re paying, then these aren’t jobs you’re going to pursue anyway, so better to find that out before investing tons of time, right? But it sounds like there’s a discrepancy between the market rate for your work in your area and what you’d like to earn … but it’s pretty difficult to find a job that will pay you more than market rate, so you might need to take a clear-eyed look at what you’re expecting and what the marketing is paying.

how much should I help this struggling recent grad?

A reader writes:

I have a question regarding helping a recent grad find their first job in their field. Without getting into convoluted details, a young person’s resume was passed along to me because she is looking to work in my field. I don’t personally know her, and frankly, I’m not wowed by her resume at all. She lists her last handful of retail jobs, but they aren’t in any logical order whatsoever. She does have relevant internship and volunteer experience, but it’s totally buried, and I missed it the first time I glanced at it. There is also a huge typo in there that doing a simple spellcheck in Word would catch. In short, her resume is pretty bad.

We’ve emailed back and forth a few times. I’ve suggested she attend various industry association meetings. She hasn’t really asked me any questions about the work I do. How I got here. About my industry. She’s really just asked if I know about any “opportunities.” I am very open to getting to know her a little better and helping her out, but I’m not particularly interested in spoon-feeding her. I realize that a recent graduate isn’t necessarily going to be well-versed in how to network, but I’d like to see a bit of initiative on her part.

As an experienced professional trying to help a young person, how much of a lead should I take in helping someone? Especially when it’s someone I don’t know and have never met. Should I suggest we have coffee to talk? Should I make specific or even general suggestions regarding her resume? It just so happens that I know of an entry-level opening, but I really hesitate to pass along her resume even with the caveat that I don’t know the person and therefore can’t recommend them.

If she were more experienced, it would be easy to dismiss her as a taker, but so many recent grads really have no idea how to go about this stuff. And they’ve often been told to ask people about “opportunities” and don’t realize that their networking should be so much more than that.  So I wouldn’t dismiss the idea of helping her simply because of her lack of initiative; she probably doesn’t even realize that there’s more initiative she could be taking here, and it could be a huge service to explain that to her.

Depending on how interested you are in helping her, you have a couple of different options:

1. If you’re willing to spend some time helping her, you could say something like, “Can I be blunt with you? I think you might have better luck in your job search if you changed some core things about your resume and also about how you’re networking with people like me. I’d be glad to talk to you over coffee sometime if you want some feedback that might help.” (And one key suggestion you could make if you do meet is helping her understand how to change her approach so that people don’t feel like she’s asking to be spoon-fed. She probably has no idea that she’s coming across that way or what to do differently.)

2. If you don’t want to spend that much time but still want to help her, you could simply call her attention to the need to work on her materials and suggest some resources. For instance, you could say, “Can I be blunt with you? Right now, I don’t think your resume is helping you as much as it could, and you might get a much better response if you make some changes like highlighting your relevant experience more. There are a lot of great resources online for putting together a resume, and that might really help.”

You’re certainly not obligated to do either of these, but if you have the time and inclination, it would be a kind thing to do, and could potentially make a real difference for her.

wee answer Wednesday — 7 short answers to 7 short questions

It’s wee answer Wednesday — seven short answers to seven short questions. Here we go…

1. I offered to let another applicant be interviewed before me

Today I had my second interview with a company and they were running behind. As I waited for my 2:30 appointment, the lady scheduled for 3:00 arrived. We spoke briefly and she told me that she was on her lunch break and worried because the interviews were running late. When they came out to get me, I offered to let her go first since I didn’t have any other obligations. Did I hurt my chances not going first?

Nope, interview order really doesn’t matter.

2. Highlighting news coverage of my work when applying for a job

I had a (small, local) news article written about my work at my last position that I feel is a great representation of what I can do. I link to it on my LinkedIn profile, but would it be appropriate to put it in my resume, cover letter, or body of an email to an employer?

Sure. Any of the three.

3. Can you stay at a job for too long?

I’m a 40-year-old woman, which I think is still consider fairly young. I have a graduate degree and am looking for a new job, really because I’m bored with my current position. I’ve worked for the same employer for 13 years, which I think is a good thing. I hear that “job hopping” every couple of years is a bad thing, but I’m starting to think that staying put for 10+ years might not be seen as good thing either because I haven’t received any interviews that I’m 100% qualified for. Can you give me the perspective from a hiriing manager on candidates who have been with the same employer for 10+ years? Is there a way for me to market myself as a future long-term employee to a prospective employer?

While job-hopping is far worse, there’s also a point in many fields where staying too long at a job can raise questions about how you’ll adapt to new environments. I can’t pinpoint exactly when that is — it’s somewhere more than 8 years but well before 20. It’s not necessarily a deal-breaker (depending on how you present yourself in general) and it doesn’t mean you must leave a job before that point, especially if you love it — but you should be aware that it could be a potential concern for future employers, and balance it against other factors.

However, as for marketing yourself as a future long-term employee at a new job, you don’t really need to do anything special to do that — the fact that you have such a long-term recent stay conveys that all on its own.

4. Removing a short-term job from my resume

I graduated college in June 2011, and for 3 months right before I graduated I took a job on campus just to make some money. It is completely unrelated to the type of jobs I am applying for. Do you think it is OK to remove it from my resume/Linkedin or should I leave it to explain the gap in unemployment? I have had some really great opportunities since then so I am not relying on it to help me. What are the general rules for short term jobs like that?

You can remove it since it was only for three months and unrelated to your field. The rules on short-term jobs are here.

And you don’t need to worry about a gap because you were in school at the time; it’s normal to have gaps during school, when your main job normally is your classes.

5. Writing interview thank-you notes when you already have an offer

Yesterday I had a great interview for a nursing position at a hospital. I went through four interviews — one with the nurse manager, one with the nursing staff, another with the director of the hospital, and the last with the VP of nursing. I was in the middle of writing my follow-up notes this morning when I received a call from HR with a job offer for that position (yay!).

I’m now a bit uncertain on how to finish my letters — prior to the call, I’d expanded on how I’d be a good fit for the job and finished with something along the lines of “I look forward to hearing from you.” Now, though, it seems a bit obnoxious to write about how I would be a good candidate, since I’ve already been accepted. My sister (who hires for her department) added that it would also be presumptuous to mention anything about receiving the offer from HR. So now my letters (and my brain) are stuck at one or two sentences of “thank you.” Do you have any suggestions on how one could finish off such a letter?

Your sister is wrong — why would it be presumptuous to mention an offer you already have? If you’ve accepted the offer, I’d just say that you appreciated meeting with them and are looking forward to working with them. If you haven’t accepted it yet, wait to write until you do. If you end up turning it down, you can write and thank them for their time and explain that you ultimately decided X because of Y but hope to stay in touch, or whatever.

6. Can I get this job offer back?

I was offered a job in Saudi Arabia two months ago in a reputable company. Initially I had accepted the offer but I was told by the interviewer that I cannot take my family along. After I had received the offer letter and during the finalization process, due to my relatives’ pressure, I had requested the HR manager to consider my request to bring my family with me to Saudi Arabia. This has upset the HR manage and he has rejected me. Later on, I realized my mistake and had apologized to the HR manager and also assured him that I do not require family status and asked him to consider me for the job. But the HR manager bluntly refused to give me one last opportunity to serve in his organization. Now I desperately need this job as it will give me an overseas experience and have monetary benefits too. I tried to convince the HR manager, but he is not heeding my request. I repent very much for my mistake. Can I get this job offer back?

Unfortunately, there’s probably not much else you can do at this point. You tried to change the HR manager’s mind, but he isn’t budging. It doesn’t sound like there’s much you can do other than moving on. I’m sorry!

7. Can my employer make me distribute leaflets off our premises?

Can my employer force me to go off the premises and ”leaflet drop” in a shopping center? I’m a visual merchandiser and today I got asked to hand out leaflets in a shopping center. I asked if I had a choice and my boss said it was non-negotiable and I was to do it! I explained that I felt uncomfortable in doing so and I was prepared to do other jobs in any part of the store and relieve another member of staff who felt comfortable ”leaflet dropping.” I was trying to compromise but no — I didn’t have a choice in the matter. My boss did not seen concerned about how I felt and did not consider any of the compromises I came up with.

When taking the job, I was never told I’d be asked to leave the premises to leaflet drop, and I think there are a lot of health and safety issues in doing so: I would be on my own, what if I had an accident, and who would be liable if anything were to happen and i wasn’t in the correct building?

Yes, your employer can assign you any task they want, as long as they’re not asking you to do anything illegal and as long as you don’t have a binding contract to the contrary.

Workers comp covers you if you have an accident while you’re working, even if you’re not in your regular office. But is that really your concern? I wouldn’t focus on that since it sounds like a red herring; it seems like the real issue is that you just don’t want to do it. That’s the part that you need to work out with your manager — but ultimately if she doesn’t bend, you’ll have it to decide if you’re willing to quit over it or risk getting fired if you refuse.

new job is giving me work to do — before I’ve even started

A reader writes:

I am starting a new job and really looking forward to it. I have given my current employer 2 weeks notice and provided a start date to the company that I will soon be working with.

I have worked for a small company for about 6 years, and I am making every effort to make sure that I have projects wrapped up and that they are as much up to speed and organized as possible for the transition. We are like a little family of sorts here, and I am trying to make sure I don’t leave too much open since they are going already have to spend time hiring and training.

I have already formally accepted the new position, and I have been in contact with them confirming that I am looking forward to my first day with them coming soon. They pleasantly replied, and I somewhat expected our contact to be limited between now and my official start date. I mainly planned to spend time on their website getting to know their products in my spare time before my first day.

I seemed to have misjudged this plan. Since my acceptance email, I have received almost daily emails from the new employer asking me to check in with them and assigning me research tasks to complete before I start. I have let them know that I will certainly be spending time getting a foundation of knowledge and am looking forward to being able to give them my full attention soon. This does not seem to be working, as shortly after the phone rings and they want me to be available to speak with them on a regular basis between now and then. I’m currently working additional hours at my job that I will be leaving, and have a few personal matters I am trying to attend to before I start my new position. In all honesty, if I was available to start sooner, I would have let them know. I believe in starting what I finish and am a little off put by feeling they want me to give them more attention prior to our agreed time frame.

Is this typical? Any thoughts on how I can politely let them know they will have my complete dedication as soon as I make the change? Am I wrong to assume that this feels just a bit pushy?

No, it’s not typical and you’re not wrong in finding it pushy. You’re not working for them yet.

It’s not uncommon for a new employer to occasionally make a small request or two before you start working — noting that it would be great if you could get up to speed on a particular report or even, rarely, to attend an important even that’s being held before you start. But those are requests, not expectations. And daily emails asking you to check in and assigning you tasks are way beyond anything reasonable or normal.

The best thing you can do is to just be straightforward. Say something like this: “I’m really focused on finishing up my work for the job I’ll be leaving, and I don’t have any additional time. But I’m looking forward to tackling all of this once I start on the 19th!”

It’s pretty likely that that’s going to take care of the problem. But if they give you pushback on that statement, it’s a pretty big red flag, and at that point you’d want to call up your new manager and say something like, “I’m getting the sense that you’ve been expecting me to start working before my actual start date, which isn’t something I’m able to do because of the commitments I’m finishing up here.” You’ll quickly be able to tell whether your new manager is reasonable or not.

Now, there’s also the question on whether you should be alarmed by all this even if the suggestions above solve the problem. And the answer is … it depends. It might signal an environment where you’ll regularly face unreasonable expectations — non-emergency calls when you’re on vacation, expectations that you’ll work weekends even when nothing’s urgent, and so forth. Or it might just signal someone who hasn’t given enough thought to how hiring works, but who’s basically an okay manager. To judge which one it probably is, you need to think back to the signals you got during the hiring process. What did you pick up on about their culture and management style? Which of these explanations seems most in sync with the cues you gathered about them earlier?

(And if your answer is that you don’t know because you didn’t really pick up on any signals about culture at all, then accepting this job is as iffy as accepting a job without even talking to the person who would be your manager. Could work out fine, could be a disaster. Slightly weighted toward the second option, due to their post-hiring behavior. So hopefully you do have some impressions about their culture to weigh all this against.)

Read an update to this letter here.