do you still need a mailing address on your resume?

A reader writes:

I teach a course for adult learners on how to prepare for a job search, and I’d like to get your take on including addresses on resumes. Personally, I think it is unnecessary, particularly in our modern world of remote and hybrid jobs, and just introduces a potential safety issue. You had a different opinion when you answered this question in 2014, but I’m wondering if your advice has changed in the last 10 years!

Yes, this has completely changed in the last 10 years! It’s utterly normal now for resumes not to include full mailing addresses. Most people still include city and state, but a lot of people don’t even include that.

Not including an address used to be seen as a sign that the candidate was trying to hide their location (for example, because you didn’t want them to know yet that you weren’t local), but conventions have changed and it doesn’t read that way anymore.

Frankly, the convention had been outdated for a long time before it finally changed. The practice of including a full mailing address goes back to the time when employers might contact you by postal mail and that hasn’t been a thing in decades, so this evolution was long overdue.

This feels like a speed round question. Is it time for another speed round?

update: my office argued for 5 months about whether I could have an ergonomic chair

Remember the letter-writer whose office argued for five months about whether they could have an ergonomic chair? They finally received their chair after a five-month ordeal (over a chair) (first update here) but … well, here’s the latest.

To recap, part of the arrangement I worked out with HR was that for this accommodation to work, I was also given a permanent desk (my employer otherwise hot desks). This was to ensure the chair wouldn’t get lost, stolen, etc. which honestly I appreciated, and has helped me feel secure about having my accomodation when I’m in the office. Everything was going fine until the last couple of weeks, when:

I was informed by HR that permanent desks will be eliminated and everyone will have to hot desk. I emailed HR asking what this means for my documented, medical accommodation.

HR seemed to have completely forgotten about me. The person who arranged all of this is no longer with company. HR says they will get back to me.

A week goes by. I follow up with HR. HR says I will need to go back to Benefits and reconnect with a contracted third party who processes accommodations (who frankly was awful the first time I engaged with them). HR is “pretty sure” everything will go through, but can’t guarantee.

I submitted all of this documentation over a year ago. I had everything formally approved by HR and the third party who processes these items. I have emails from HR confirming everything was formally approved. Everything is supposed to be on the books. Why am I essentially back at square one?

I shared all of this with the HR team, explained the lengthy process I went through to get this chair, forwarded emails from HR confirming everything, but they are making it sound like I will need to go back through all of this all over again.

Shouldn’t records like this be kept in some sort of software/official record-keeping process so that even if an HR staff member leaves or is terminated, there is historical documentation for all of this? Shouldn’t this be HR’s responsibility to iron out, not mine? Also, what would happen if for some reason they don’t approve the accommodation the second time around? Would they take the chair back?

Admittedly, I am still waiting to hear back from HR. Perhaps I am making a mountain out of a molehill. But just thought to share, because I literally cannot make this up.

what weird things did you believe about work before you had a job?

Inspired by yesterday’s account of the kid who thought her mom’s boss was a dog: What weird things did you believe about work as a kid, or even just before you started working?

Personally, I couldn’t understand why work would be tiring if you weren’t doing manual labor and used to be very skeptical of my long-suffering mother when she complained about being tired after work, and I also imagined that I would carry a briefcase every day (I have never owned a briefcase).

should I tell candidates about 2 dating employees, employee is posting videos about customers on social media, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. Should I tell candidates that two employees they’ll be managing are dating?

An organization I’m involved with is hiring their next executive director. There are two key long-time employees who are dating (there are fewer than 10 full-time employees total). When new people join the organization, nobody tells them that these two people are a couple, and they tend to find out in ad hoc and sometimes awkward ways.

I’m involved in the process of bringing on the next executive director and wondering at what point we should tell candidates this information (finalists who interview in-person? only the last candidate? after they start?) and also how to share it. I imagine straightforward is best — e.g., “You should know these two are a couple.” And if they ask whether it’s something to be concerned about, say, “It’s common knowledge, we just wanted you to be aware.” But in fact, these two do hold some power (they can essentially veto things if they don’t want them to happen). I don’t want candidates to be taken by surprise by these dynamics once they get the job, but also want to respect people’s personal lives and work/life boundaries.

When I started reading your question, I was thinking, “Just mention it after they’re hired; it’s not a big enough deal that it needs to be disclosed.” But then I got to the part about the power they hold as a unit — and yeah, I’d be pretty unhappy to take a job leading a small organization and only find out after I started that two key employees were in a personal relationship that allowed them to veto things they don’t like, and that no one had bothered to tell me I’d be walking into that.

So I’d raise it at the finalist stage. The message shouldn’t just be “we just wanted you to be aware they’re dating” because that’s not the most relevant part. You need to disclose what the relationship means for the dynamics in the organization, so that your finalists have a chance to ask questions about how that plays out and to consider whether they want a job where they’ll be managing that situation.

Disclosing it isn’t a violation of people’s personal lives; it’s about sharing a problematic staff dynamic that the person you hire will need to navigate.

2. Employee is making videos about our customers and posting them on his own social media

We have a newish salesperson who is creating his own videos/posts three times per week on his social channels about our customers/businesses. The quality is poor and his posts are not fact-checked. He graduated from college one year ago and works in B2B sales.

Because he is posting on his personal social accounts and not mentioning our company name, do we have the right to talk to him about his posts and ask him to stop creating his own videos about our customers? I’m concerned because he uses the customer’s actual websites in his videos. Their websites are in the background and he literally scrolls through their website during his videos, clicking on their videos and pictures, etc.

Is he breaching some kind of business SOP, ethics, or no-no by creating content about our customers? I have no doubt that if our customers saw his jenky videos, they would not be happy.

Yes, he absolutely is breaching basic professional expectations by posting about your customers, and you need to tell him to stop!

It doesn’t matter that he’s doing it on his personal account and not mentioning your company by name. He’s an employee of your company and you’re on very solid ground in telling him he can’t comment on your customers publicly, period, and that it would be a customer relations disaster if clients find out an employee is doing that. Tell him he needs to remove the existing videos immediately and not post more. If that single warning doesn’t resolve it, that’s a firing-level offense.

Even if that conversation does solve it, though, you should take a closer look at his work and judgment more broadly because this speaks to a real lack of sense.

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my new employee keeps tagging us in negative social media posts after we’ve told her to stop (and then live-streamed her performance review)

3. Several weeks of uncontrollable burping

I have a soon-to-be embarrassing situation coming up. I have a condition called R-CPD, basically the inability to burp. Excitingly, in a few weeks, I will be having surgery to correct this. Without going into the details, I will literally have no control over my burping for at least several weeks and possibly longer. Some people’s side effects are so much that they burp every time they open their mouth or turn their head.

I work in a couple of different settings, some in a quiet space where everyone will undoubtedly hear. One day a week is directly in client’s homes and I’m dreading explaining it to them (it sounds weird and fake!) or just pretending it isn’t happening. Taking so much time off, or getting accommodations to be in a different location, isn’t an option due to the nature of the work.

“I need to warn you — I just had a medical procedure that’s causing a lot of uncontrollable burping for the next few weeks! Please excuse me in advance!”

If you want, you can say, “I won’t excuse myself every time or that will end up being more distracting than the burping is, so I’m going to say one blanket ‘excuse me’ now.”

That’s it! Be upbeat and matter-of-fact about. It doesn’t sound like being coy will be an option anyway, so you might as well just be open and direct about what’s going on. (It would be a lot weirder if you didn’t acknowledge it.)

4. I can’t get people to attend mandatory trainings

How much handholding should be expected of professionals? I am at my wit’s end. I am in a relatively senior role that involves keeping our staff compliant with various rules. So let’s say we’re going to have a mandatory training, which will keep our company on the right side of the law (and which we do at most twice a year). A month in advance, I will send an email explaining the training and why everyone needs to attend. I will quickly follow it up with a calendar invite, which maybe half of recipients will accept immediately. I will include it in the monthly staff newsletter. I will ping everyone in Teams a few days in advance. And on the day of the training, I STILL get a handful of people saying, “Oh, I didn’t realize that was today” and “Sorry, double booked/ something came up, can’t make it.”

I could complain to their managers, but it’s MY job to make sure we’re in compliance. That this is still happening in 2024 tells me it’s not about the tools or the technology for keeping track of appointments, it’s just plain disrespect. What do you think these folks need to hear in order to take it seriously?

You need to involve their managers — meaning that a week before the training, you message all the managers reminding them the training is on Date and is mandatory for their staff members, and asking them to confirm that all their team will be in attendance, and then you do that the day before too (not several days before — one day before, so it’s less likely to be forgotten in the interim). You do the same thing with individual attendees.

You will still have people flake out unless you have the ability to impose any kind of real consequence, which it sounds like you don’t (but their managers do, so you want them on your side!) but you’ll get less flaking than is happening now.

But there are no magic words that make people take this stuff seriously, unless those magic words involve consequences — like “if you miss this training, your vacation accrual will be frozen until you make it up.” I assume you don’t have that authority, so if the above doesn’t fix it, you need allies — maybe that’s your legal team, maybe it’s just someone higher up than you — who can put real teeth behind the requirement. You’d approach that by pointing out the legal risk for the company, the stats on lack of attendance, and what you’ve tried so far, and pointing out that you’re at the limits of what you can accomplish without real consequences for no-shows.

5. How do I network with the people who ghosted me after an interview?

I’m pursuing a job in the academic market, which is … tough, to say the least. I was recently ghosted after interviewing for a position at a university in my area. Months later, I found out through connections that while my interviewers liked me, they ended up going with another candidate.

There is another position at this university which I want even more than the position I didn’t get. In fact, I think it’s a much better match for my skills and goals than the last one was! However, I’m not sure how to network and communicate with the people who ghosted me. I was recently at an event where one of my interviewers was in attendance and they seemed decidedly nervous every time they saw me, like they clearly wanted to avoid talking to me.

Although I’m not happy about being ghosted, I am capable of getting over it for the sake of pursuing this other position. However, I’m concerned that my past interviewers’ own nerves over dealing with someone they ghosted may impact me negatively. Do you have any advice on how I can navigate this situation graciously?

Any nervousness at seeing you probably wasn’t about the ghosting; it’s more likely to have been about interviewing but not hiring you. People who ghost candidates often don’t even realize they ghosted them; they think someone else sent rejections, or it just fell off their radar, etc.

That said, people who hire normally don’t feel that much awkwardness about running into rejected candidates unless there’s something else going on, like they made you promises they later reneged on, etc. Any chance some of this might have been you projecting the awkwardness you feel about the ghosting on to them? Or maybe these people are particularly odd, but either way they’re probably not horribly consumed with guilt about the ghosting.

When you apply for the new job, send them a note saying you really enjoyed talking with them earlier this year, were glad to see the X position open up, have thrown your hat in the ring for it, and hope to get the opportunity to talk with them about it. Be cheerful and upbeat. All of that will demonstrate that you aren’t feeling weirdly about what happened and that there’s no need for them to feel they need to tiptoe around you.

the secret goat, the geese vs the CEO, and other stories of animals at work

Last week we talked about animals at work and here are 10 of my favorite stories you shared.

1. The unauthorized dog

I’ve worked my entire career at tech start-ups, which are invariably filled with multiple office dogs. Beyond stories of those dogs peeing under desks, pooping in conference rooms, and even one lone kitten who crawled through a hole into the wall and had to be lured out with some turkey, the wildest story was the day a dog arrived who didn’t belong.

We noticed the new dog running through the office, but just thought it belonged to an employee. The dog got wilder and wilder, jumping on and barking at people, and soon the work chat escalated from “Whose dog is this?” to “Will the owner please come get your dog already!!!”

The receptionist checked that morning’s front door footage to see who arrived with that dog and to our shock, we realized it had arrived alone. It had snuck in after an oblivious coworker, which was impressive because we were many floors up in an elevator building (we would later learn the dog had ridden an elevator with a different coworker who also didn’t say anything because he “thought the dog knew where it was going”).

I ended up catching the dog after it muscled its way into a conference room which unfortunately was hosting an important call with an external party. The dog was later reunited with its owner who worked on a different floor.

2. The ducks

One year, a duck nested in a bush next to the employee entrance of my office. There were signs on the door warning everyone to leave her alone, but she – and her babies, once they hatched – were so quiet, you’d never have known they were there if not for the signs. Then one morning around 8:30, it was time for them to leave and head to a nearby pond. Mama duck and her babies marched across the parking lot while three employees blocked all the traffic and everyone else lined up at the office windows to watch the babies. The head of HR later sent out an email to the whole office announcing the departure of the ducks for anyone who’d missed it. He made sure to include photos of the babies and a shoutout to the people who’d blocked traffic for them.

3. The known individual

A few years ago a cougar wandered down from the mountains and made it across about two miles of suburbia to end up in a wildlife preserve next to our campus. This obviously concerned people who walked around the area, and even though the cougar left, for a while people were on edge about anything that looked like a big cat. One “cougar sighting” turned out to be an old bobcat that lived in the preserve, which led to a police press release saying that he was “an individual known to police and not dangerous,” as if he were a drunk they’d had to rouse out of the gutter or something.

4. The peacock

A friend of mine worked front of house at a huge winery that hosted concerts and events throughout the year, including a classic car show. This winery also has resident peacocks that freely roam the grounds. At this particular car show, a peacock wandered by a car that had loads of shiny chrome all over it. The bird saw his own reflection in the bumper and immediately went into attack mode, trying like hell to get at that other damn peacock — and like most male birds, he had beak and claws going for him and caused several thousands of dollars worth of damage to the paint job and the shiny metal bits of the car.

5. The iguana

I once stopped at a vendor stall at our local farmers market. The money was handled by what looked to be maybe an 11-12 year old girl, and the cash box was guarded by a large iguana parked on top. When she needed to make change, she’d remove the iguana, make the change, and then put it back. Makes sense to me – I’m not messing with an iguana.

6. The geese vs. the CEO

We had a pair of Canadian geese nesting in the landscaping right up against our building. Canadian geese aren’t known for their social skills at the best of times, but when they’re nesting it becomes Jurassic Park but with honking and feathers. They chased everyone who came in the front entrance, which happened to be closest to their nest. We had signs for people to go around to the side entrance so they didn’t get a goose bite, which was likely because Papa Goose would stand guard right on the steps, hissing and honking at you.

Our CEO was annoyed that grounds wouldn’t get rid of the geese and went to great lengths to try to get them to leave on their own including installing fake owls around the top of the building himself to scare them off; he went up on the roof in a suit. It was awesome. He tried clapping at them, chasing them with a broom. They chased him right back and cornered him at his car. After a lot of swearing and hissing, he got into his car and left. The geese were allowed to stay.

7. The seals

I work at a marina. We have guest moorage, which is basically a campground for boats. We built a new breakwater dock, which is attached to land at one side, so there’s only one way on or off. There’s a small floating office moored about halfway down.

We didn’t anticipate that the seals would love this dock so much. We were in the middle of pupping season and there are extremely strict laws regarding approaching or interacting with seals, and even stricter ones about their pups. Well, our employee was out working in the office and a seal decided to give birth on the dock right outside the door. She was trapped in the office both because she didn’t want to break the law and she also didn’t want to get bit (those things get big!). She finally had to call our maintenance department and have them bring the little boat over so she could climb out the office window onto the boat so she could go home.

8. The cat

I had an internship at a CPA firm about three hours from where my husband and I were based, so my husband stayed in our apartment and I rented a room near the firm. During my second week there, my young and otherwise healthy cat needed emergency surgery and sadly didn’t survive. This was my first experience with pet loss and let me tell you I was A MESS. When it all went down I needed to rush home in the middle of a work day and not come back for several days, and then I cried in the office several times. Everyone was understanding but I was so worried I was giving them the wrong impression.

The rest of my five-month-long internship went smoothly. My very last client had an office cat who was there to be a mouser. This cat spent every day snuggled up next to my laptop and I loved him. Right before the engagement ended, I got wind that they were about the take the cat back to the shelter because they’d realized he should live in a home but were unable to find one for him. I think you know that I took the cat.

At the end of my internship they offered me a full-time position. The partner said I’d done a great job and added, “You made the firm look really good by adopting that cat.” Nine years later I’m no longer with that firm but I still have the cat. His name is Siren.

9. The goat

An adult goat joined us once for entire day. We worked in a professional environment (read: not business-casual, just business), with a humorless director and a lot of phone calls from the public. The goat’s human dad lived a long commute from the office, needed to take the goat to the vet for a checkup after work, and thought it quite reasonable for us to have an “intern” for the day. Given his title, none of us felt empowered to resist.

Some of us loved it (“A goat! Fun!”), some of us hated it (“#$@# GOAT!”), and one woman was terrified because as a child, she was taught horizontal pupils were a sign of evil and she wanted him nowhere near her cube. Goat Dad had a busy day of offsite meetings, so we all tried to keep an eye on our new coworker. It was tough – he laughed at our barricades, tipped over lamps, let out extremely loud bleats (but only when he noticed someone was on the phone), and thought he ascended to heaven when he discovered our staff kitchen. No salad was safe, and he discovered a previously unknown love of Pop-Tarts.

When our director unexpectedly stopped by in the afternoon, we knew the goat was cooked (metaphorically). We not only had to keep him out of sight, but completely silent. Goat Dad had said we could lull him nearly to sleep if we stroked his chin. For the last three hours of the day, we snuck the goat from cube to cube to cube, depending on our director’s movements, and all the goat-sitters had to give up one hand for chin-stroking. Only one bleat was heard, and a quick-thinking coworker popped his head up above his cube and said, “YouTube! Sorry!”

Of course, no good deed goes unpunished, and Goat Dad grumbled the next day that his pet’s farts were unbearable in the car ride home, which definitely were not caused by the broccoli our our receptionist picked out of her salad.

10. The Dean

I was six. The school I went to had no air conditioners and was intolerable when it was above body temperature, so school was canceled for a “hot day.” My mother worked at a very fancy job (a professor) and she had air conditioning. She had to go work and brought me. I got to be all grown up and be mum’s little helper and run messages/errands around my mum’s floor while my mother was frantic with end-of-school-year things.

My most important quest yet — I’m supposed to get a signature from her boss. I thought his name was Dean, and he was so important, he was “The Dean” (I’d never met any Dean). So I go into The Dean’s office, and there is a pug sitting on the chair behind the desk. I knew that dogs could work and had important jobs, ceremonial and otherwise. I thought that only working dogs were allowed at work. I am so pissed that my mother never told me her boss was a dog, but she’s really busy right now.

I try for a minute to very respectfully ask for a signature on paper from this dog, who just sits and yawns. Luckily, I had just helped out at a wedding recently, and with everyone who was too young to write their name, they put their finger or foot on an ink stamp to sign the guest book. I knew how to help with that. So I found an ink pad, and lo and behold the dog had one black paw and three pink paws — so the black one went into the ink, and onto the lines, and the document is signed. It goes into the pile, I remember to wipe the paw down, and I move on to the next thing.

Maybe a month later, my mother and I are at a barbecue with “Chris Potter,” a family friend, who has brought his dog (and I recognize Chris Potter’s dog is The Dean!). I joyfully explain to my cousins (some older than me) that this dog is my mum’s boss. Chris Potter relates a story to the adults about how some poor student’s important paperwork (post-doc appointment form) had been walked over by a dog so his signature wasn’t visible, and he had been called by the money people (grant holder’s department accountant) over normally un-interruptable three-week summer vacation, to confirm that he did approve of important mum-work things (research funding allocation).

One of my cousins was annoyed I was lying about my mum’s boss being a dog and went to tell on me to the adults. My mum asked why I thought that, and all the adults started laughing. I was gently told that the dean is a title (more important than Dr!), and the dog was not the dean. Julie, the dog, did get a wonderful embroidered collar that Christmas that said “the boss” on it, and the next time I visited for a heat day, everyone with a pet in their office had put a sign up warning of their existence. This was the best since with a bit of work, I got to pet every dog.

how to respond to a volatile rejected job applicant

A reader writes:

I have a question regarding job applicants who, after being interviewed and rejected more than once, apply over and over again.

I have one applicant who has been interviewed twice, rejected twice, and keeps sending new applications. The first time she was interviewed was two years ago by our recruitment coordinator, and a second time by me a few months ago. This applicant seems emotionally unstable, and the position I am hiring for is home care for vulnerable adults. When I rejected her a few months ago, I sent her a standard form rejection email. Afterwards she left me multiple voicemails asking why I rejected her. In some of the voicemails she was shouting, and in some she was crying.

I do not want to interview or speak to this person again, but I want to let her know that we will not be considering her application. Normally I send out a form letter, but I feel that’s a bit cold in this case. How can I politely let this applicant know we will not be interviewing her again?

I answer this question over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and sometimes updating/expanding my answers to them). You can read it here.

my employee is rude to colleagues — but some of them are rude to her too

A reader writes:

I started at a new company a few months ago and, in getting acquainted with other staff, several people mentioned that they find one of my reports, Linda, a little abrasive. Basically, there was a lot of coded talk that she can be difficult/rude. Since we have started working together, I do find that sometimes she phrases things in a way that I never would to a supervisor, but overall I think we work together very well and some other staff members have actually mentioned to me that Linda seems happier at work.

In the past two weeks, I received two complaints about Linda’s tone, and I also received an email her from her that felt overly aggressive considering the circumstances. I would like to discuss the issue with her in our next 1:1, but in preparation for that discussion I checked in with her two former supervisors, who are now the highest level staff at our company, and even though both of them have spoken to me quite a bit about “how Linda can be,” I learned she has never received feedback during her 15+ years here about this seemingly well-acknowledged issue among other staff.

The problem that I am having in considering how to phrase it is that both complaints about her tone have come from people who were ALSO rude to her and apparently that has not been discussed with them, either. One of those people is our HR director. Both complaints were sent to me via email, with the chains in question forwarded to me, and I feel that the other people were rude to Linda first, and she basically responded in-kind. Is that what I would have done? No, but if I had received similar emails outside of a work setting, I probably would have taken a similar tone to Linda’s. I did let the other supervisor know that I thought her report was also rude in the interaction, but I have no idea what came of that.

Everyone involved with this issue has been here at least as long as Linda. I want to do better than her previous supervisors, but this feels like a difficult message to present. I have already spoken with the CEO about other issues regarding the HR director, and to be honest he seems afraid of her, so I can’t exactly promise she will start being more cordial. I am wondering if I should ignore the other complaints for now and just focus on the email she sent me, but that doesn’t seem totally right either since I was clearly asked to speak to her about it by both the HR director and other supervisor.

The framing you want is: “You can’t talk to colleagues this way regardless of the provocation.”

But it’s essential to pair that with, “It’s not acceptable for anyone to talk to you this way, either. If that’s happening, please loop me in so I can address it. But the solution can’t be that you snap back at them.”

It sounds like you should also talk with Linda about the reputation she’s developed for being difficult and rude. No one has done her any favors in hiding from her! But here, too, it’s essential to pair it with an acknowledgement that, from what you’ve seen, others are part of the problem. And again, the message should be, “I don’t want our team speaking to people this way even if we’re provoked.”

First, though, make sure that Linda isn’t being held to different standards than others. “Abrasive” in particular is often leveled against women when men saying the exact same things don’t get characterized that way, and Black people can get characterized as “angry” when others saying the same things don’t. It sounds like you’ve seen plenty of evidence that Linda genuinely is off-base in a lot of her communications, and I’m going to assume for the rest of my answer that that’s the case — but keep an eye out for a more problematic dynamic and address it head-on if you do see it.

Assuming that the issues are legitimate ones, though, the fact that you’re coming in as a new player might make you better-positioned to address them. If you’d managed her for years and ignored the way she spoke to people that whole time, it would be harder to address it now. (You’d still need to! But it would be harder and she’d have the right to be irritated that you waited years to speak up.) As a new person without the history her previous managers apparently have with her, you might find it easier to say, “Hey, we can’t talk to people like this” — and also “I don’t want them talking to you this way either.” Plus, the fact that Linda seems to mesh better with you than with previous managers is likely to help; you sound like you might have built up some credibility and good will with her.

I’m glad you point out to that other manager that her employee had been rude in her dealings with Linda. Keep doing that. It’s possible that people have fallen into bad habits with Linda over the years — if she has a history of being difficult, they might start off interactions with her already on the defensive — but just as it’s not okay for Linda to respond to provocation rudely, it’s not okay for people to do it to her either. And for you to maintain credibility with Linda, she needs to see that you’re not holding her to a different standard than other people are held to, and that you’ll go to bat for her when she has a legitimate beef with how someone speaks to her.

can my husband hang out in my office, asking coworkers to treat me like “the talent,” and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. Can my husband hang out in my office at night until I’m ready to leave?

I am a woman in my early thirties. If I am going to stay late at night at work, would it be possible to bring my husband to stay somewhere in the office until I finish my work? Is it an unusual request to make?

It will vary by office. Some offices would be fine with it. Others have security policies that could make it tricky.

Are you wondering about it for safety reasons or something else (like, I don’t know, you carpool to work and your husband needs to wait somewhere until you’re done so you can drive home together)?

If it’s safety reasons, I’d raise that with your manager directly; if you need to stay late at work, you need to feel safe doing that and your employer should work with you to make that possible.

If it’s more “my husband is bored and needs somewhere to hang out until I can leave,” it would be better for him to find somewhere else to do that until you’re done (especially if it would be a regular thing).

2. How do I get my coworkers to treat me like “the talent”?

I work in an industry where there’s crew (the production peeps) and talent (people in front of camera or behind the mic). I’ve been crew for maybe 10 years now. But I’ve pitched a project of my own and will be behind the mic for it. Exciting!

Usually, the production peeps take a lot of care briefing the talent — what happens when, who’s handling what, next steps, etc., etc. But because I’ve been on the team and am part of the company and someone from outside, they are skipping all these steps with me.

Classic slippery slope. Initially, I didn’t mind, because we were still in my area of preproduction expertise. No need to brief. Now we are reaching post and I feel totally lost and worried about who’s handling what and is somebody handling it at all or must I be sorting it out, etc. It feels dramatic to now hit them with an email saying KEEP ME ABREAST AT ALL TIMES. And how do I transition from being a mellow fellow coworker to a fussy client with lots of pointers about editing and marketing and such? (I don’t go overboard with fussiness, I swear.)

“Hey, I know I didn’t initially need everything talent normally needs, but now we’re at a point where I do need the same level of support we give to people without experience in production. I’m realizing I feel lost about things like XYZ, so going forward, can you give me the same level of briefing you’d give anyone else, even if you think I won’t need it?”

As for moving from a mellow coworker to a fussy client with lots of notes … there’s just some inherent awkwardness in there that you probably can’t entirely avoid, but if you just jump in and do it, it’ll feel more natural in time. That said, your knowledge from being on the other side can inform your approach — be as detail-oriented as you want, but be kind about it. Think of it as taking the work very seriously, rather than taking yourself seriously; that usually helps with humility. (At the same time, I bet seeing the process from the talent side is going to make some things talent does that were annoying when you were crew seem less annoying now. That always happens when you do this kind of flip, and that perspective-broadening can be useful if you return to the crew side at some point.)

3. What feedback should I give to a temporary worker who didn’t get the job?

I became a first-time manager within the past year, so this is all new to me. My first act was to make a temporary hire for my old role until our organization could fill it full-time. I hired someone I knew from a similar org who had recently been let go for budget reasons. I am completely confident she knew it was a temporary position. Within a year, I got the greenlight to hire full-time. She applied and was a finalist out of a pool of several hundred applicants. But she lost out to someone with extensive specific past experience that made them a unicorn-level fit for the job.

I told her that she did not get the job, and that it honestly wasn’t anything she did wrong; we just had a candidate we couldn’t pass up. She has been professional about it but is taking it hard.

This surprised me. Even during interviews, she did not seem very excited, but rather like applying was the expected thing to do. Even so, it was a close decision because she is very good. I have honestly told her I will be a glowing reference for her. I told her, if she wants, she can stay through end of the month. (She doesn’t know this yet but I’m also trying to get the budget to give her some cover for the next month.) We also lined up some short projects that I hope she can use as examples in future interviews. I genuinely want her to do well in a job she cares about.

In our last check-in, she started crying and asked for more specific feedback. Like anyone, she isn’t perfect and I have a couple of things I could suggest. But none are why we didn’t hire her. Do I give her honest feedback? Does that include telling her she didn’t seem to want to be here? Or does that rub salt in the wound? As a newbie manager, I try to start with empathy, but I clearly misread her enthusiasm and am doubting my instincts now.

Give her feedback because she’s asking for it, but frame it as, “I can give you some feedback on things that will strengthen your work generally, but I want to be clear that they weren’t the reasons you weren’t hired. You were a very competitive candidate and the decision was about hiring someone who was an unusually good match; it wasn’t based on any concerns about you or your work.”

I would not tell her she didn’t seem enthusiastic unless she seemed so disengaged that you’re concerned it will be an obstacle for her in future interviews. But it’s useful data that people don’t always wear their hearts on their sleeves in interviews and can be much more invested than you can see on the surface. (Not always! Some people genuinely aren’t that enthused. But it’s good to be aware that there’s a wide spectrum of “normal” on this.)

Related:
how to show passion for your work when you’re not a demonstrative person

4. Can I ask for my own office?

I work for a large nonprofit that is mostly remote, but has an office from the days when folks were expected to come in. The building sits mostly empty. On my floor, for example, there are about 20 cubicles and 15 enclosed offices. There are maybe five of us that come in at some point during the week, and of those, only two of us are in every day. Of course, all five of us are in the same cube area, and the two of us in every day sit right next to each other. This leaves over 15 offices empty and unassigned.

This is frustrating! All of my meetings are on video calls, so I spend a lot of time going in and out of enclosed offices. My colleagues often take their videos and calls in the open area, which results in unnecessary sensory overload and frustration for me. (If it matters, I likely have sensory processing disorder from some combination of anxiety/ADHD/etc.)

I’ve only been here a month, and I’m the lowest role in our structure. Still, with so many offices sitting open, I would love to move into one. Would it be okay to request? How should I approach it?

“I’m spending a lot of time going in and out of the enclosed offices since I have so many video calls. Since it seems like a lot are unused, would it be okay for me to regularly work out of one of them?” They might say no — a lot of offices have intense politics around who gets an office and who doesn’t, even the people they’re assigned to are never there to use them — but it’s reasonable to ask. (Those politics are why my suggested wording is “regularly work out of one of them,” which sounds less permanent than “can I have my own office?” even if that’s what it turns into in time.)

If the answer is no, you could ask about moving to a cubicle that’s further away from the current cluster so that you’re not in the middle of so much action.

Also, depending on how much the sensory overload is interfering with your work, you could also consider going the formal accommodations route — but in a lot of cases it makes sense to start with a less formal conversation first.

5. Should I tell my over-performing employee to leave?

I have a superstar employee. She was fairly fresh out of university when we hired her, but I have never had a regret about her performance. She’s now been working for us for almost two years and doing more work than I would expect someone at her level to perform, it’s at an exceptional quality, and she consistently takes on bigger and newer challenges.

Obviously, I’ve been advocating for her to get a promotion. Recently, HR told us that for her to get that promotion, she’d have to have had three years of experience in her current (or any equivalent) role. But she’s performing at a higher level than what her title indicates! She deserves the promotion. She did get a decent raise, which I am happy about, but I know from experience that the title can make a big difference as well. Honestly she could leave and do so much better for herself. I’ve made the case again for her and hope that HR will change their mind (or find some combined level of experience that will help her qualify for it), but what else can I do?

Do I tell her that she should start looking elsewhere because she deserves a role that recognizes and pays her what she is worth? This is the first I’ve heard of the title structure that bases things off of years of experience, but I assume I should just lay it out for her so that she knows what the logic is? Do I have to make it sound like I agree with this because I am her manager?

It’s not terribly unusual to have experience requirements for promotion. It’s also reasonable for you, as her manager, to argue for an exception to that policy, based on her extraordinary level of performance and the possibility that the company may lose her entirely if you don’t reward that performance sooner rather than later.

That said, what’s your employee’s take on all this? Is she happy to wait another year for promotion or is she pushing for it to happen sooner? If she hasn’t shown any unhappiness with the situation, there’s no reason to encourage her to start looking outside the company. If you had the sense that they’d never promote her, that would be different — and you’d owe it to her to be relatively candid about that — but that’s not the case here. You should still share with her what the promotion timeline is so she has it, and you should lay out for HR why you think her accomplishments in two years are the equivalent of the average candidate’s accomplishments in three (or longer), but the three-year timeline isn’t inherently outrageous (as long as it’s real and they don’t kick the can down the road once people get there, and also as long as it’s not at odds with the norms of your field).

is it bad to request the top of the salary range?

A reader writes:

I am interviewing for a job at a different company. It would be a lateral move, but worth it to me given that the new company is more stable and has greater opportunity for advancement. This is a salaried professional position. I think I am well qualified for it, perhaps a little overqualified, and though the interview process isn’t done, it seems to be going well.

I was discussing this interview with my rather old-school corporate father (boomer generation). I mentioned that since I currently made $100,000, and the job listing for the new position quoted a range with a max of $110,000, I planned to ask for $110,000. I justified this in my mind because the new job would require substantial travel, and my current position is underpaid relative to market. I had not yet decided what was the lowest I’d go, but I wanted to open with $110,000.

He pushed back. He said it was a bad idea to try to be at the top of the salary range because 1) you would not get as large future increases and 2) your head would be first on the chopping block if layoffs came. I said, I assumed at some point someone would ask me to state a number to open negotiations. He said I should politely refuse to give a number and instead emphasize that I wanted a “meaningful increase over my current compensation” when salary, bonus, benefits, etc., are all considered.

It makes sense to me to consider all forms of compensation together instead of fixating on a single aspect (salary). However, the rest of his argument doesn’t make much sense to me. If people who start more towards the middle of the range get larger raises to bring them up to the top of the range over time, they’re still worse off at the end than someone who was at the top of the range to begin with, right? Also, I feel it would be really annoying to try to negotiate with someone who says they want a “meaningful increase” but won’t tell you what they consider “meaningful.” As for being higher on the range opening you to layoffs, well, I’m not sure what to do about that, given that in general most people’s goals are to try to make more money rather than less, and I guess I’ll just have to prove I’m worth the cost.

What do you think? Does he have a point?

He does not. You should ignore his advice on this.

You’re of course right on the math: even if you get lower raises in future years because you started at the high end of the range, you’re still better off than someone who started at a lower number and then got raises to bring them into the high end of the range over time.

Plus, it’s not even necessarily the case that the salary range advertised is the full range for the job; in many cases it’s the range for the starting salary, not the full band for the position itself.

As for the advice to refuse to name a number and instead just say you’re looking for a “meaning increase,” I can tell you that as an interviewer, it’s incredibly annoying when people won’t talk in real numbers. It comes across as game-playing and it doesn’t make you look like you’re in a position of strength.

Moreover — and very significantly — your dad’s advice to reference “a meaningful increase over my current compensation” anchors the new job’s salary to whatever you’re making currently, which is none of the new employer’s business, and is especially to your disadvantage when you’re already underpaid. You don’t need to name your current salary at all.

As for the worry that negotiating for a higher salary means you’ll be the most attractive employee to lay off if they need to make cuts … it’s possible, but it’s not a reason not to try to negotiate for the best salary you can get yourself! They’re not going to agree to pay you more than they think the job is worth, and you shouldn’t artificially depress your own wages out of a fear that some day your employer might change their mind and decide you’re too expensive. By that logic, we should all ask for less than we think the work is worth, which makes no sense.

There are times when you shouldn’t ask for the top of the salary range, like when you’re clearly under-qualified and the role would be a stretch and so asking for the top of the range would make you look out-of-touch and like you don’t understand how salaries work — but that’s not your situation.

You may ignore your dad with impunity.

my employee keeps commenting on my looks

A reader writes:

How can I best respond to an employee of mine about his frequent inappropriate comments about my body and looks? I’m worried about inadvertently devolving into “you think I’m hot” territory or drawing even more attention to my body, which makes me very, very uncomfortable.

Some recent comments/actions include “You’re bringing sexy back!” (said because I was wearing a completely office-appropriate wrap dress) and “You definitely look like you work out a lot” (said after I made an innocuous gym-related statement).

I’m completely at a loss about how to address this without making myself feel more uncomfortable than I already am about this, or making him feel defensive.

I answer this question over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and sometimes updating/expanding my answers to them). You can read it here.