it’s your Friday good news

It’s your Friday good news!

1.  “I was headhunted for my current job as the only person in the world at the time to do what I do, and after 3.5 years received a raise that brought me to more than double what I had been at the old job. I really enjoy the people I work with (some of the best I have ever worked with), the culture of the company, and the work I do. However, earlier this year when raises came out, I was more than disappointed when my boss told me she was told there was no money for an increase for me. I knew other people were getting raises and was a little shocked that even with company-wide retention problems, there was so little effort to retain, well, me.

I suspected this was because I work in a very niche position in multiple shape widget making, and I have signed a non-compete that would preclude me from working at the very few competitors out there. What HR missed is that someone versed in multi-shape widgets is in high demand at single-shape companies because of their depth of experience, and most of those companies would not be considered competitors.

I immediately sent out resumes and within weeks, was talking to companies offering 30% increases in pay. Nothing was quite the right fit, and after months of stewing, I finally asked my boss if she knew any details about why I was left out of the budget. I explained that while I had initially thought I was slightly underpaid, I had realized that my salary was actually under industry offers by X amount. She asked how I knew, and I casually mentioned that I had been interviewing and these were the specific amounts I was being offered (while internally panicking that this would be the thing that made them fire me ASAP). After a few minutes of silence, she said she needed to talk to some people and get back to me.

I was shocked later that week to be offered a 44% raise, bringing me up to triple what I was making at the old company, along with a message that I am valued and most of leadership was horrified that I thought I was being nudged out. I’m so thrilled to be able to stay where the culture is great, the people are great, and now I have an opportunity to expand the number of shapes we’re making.”

2.  “Thank you for this blog, Alison. I wouldn’t be in the wonderful place I am now without it.

I felt very on track in 2018 to have my grad degree complete and a job in my field in hand by the end of 2019. But my thesis ended up being delayed by 15 months, by what I considered a bad student/advisor pairing (which my department’s chair kindly insisted was much more the advisor’s fault and much less mine.) The delay lost me one sure-fire job opportunity, and heavily messed up my mental health. And at the end of the thesis, I found myself stuck right in the middle of the Covid hiring freeze.

By the time the market began to unfreeze, I felt stuck, with a resume that wouldn’t do nearly enough to stand out in my field (lack of internships is killer!). Your advice on job hunting didn’t just help me polish up my application materials, it helped bring back the confidence that the thesis delay sapped out of me. First came the resume touch-ups, which started a small trickle of interviews. Then came the cover letter revamp — I ended up keeping about 10 potential paragraphs to use, then picking the 3 that most fit the job in question, and tailoring those paragraphs to display the best match. This led to a fairly steady stream of interviews, where I always had one iron in the fire. However, what I think put me over the edge was the advice on thank-you notes. I finally kept that in mind and sent a strong, personal one with my last interview.

I am now six days into the role that interview was hiring for. Not only do I love the work I’m doing already, both between the technical side and the impact it has, but also my advisor mentioned in our one-on-one today that she was hoping her next hire could be ‘another me.’ Most importantly, it comes with enough pay that I can finally plan out supporting my partner as he moves across the Atlantic to be with me. Thank you so much.”

3.  “I am an exempt employee, and our leadership is fairly flexible about start/end times, lunch breaks, etc. My company has gone to a work mostly at home schedule since the pandemic, after allowing very minimal work from home pre-pandemic.

This week, I received a team luncheon request (recurring) from my grandboss, where we are being asked to attend in person. Only problem is it conflicts with a non-work related organization whose meetings I’ve been attending during that time slot while I take my lunch. Every work luncheon meeting would have been a conflict with this personal appointment.

In the past, I probably would have just decided I had to quit this organization, but since becoming a reader of your column, I decided I had the capital to push back a little.

I emailed my grandboss to ask for more details about the luncheon and if it was intended to be work related or social in nature, or some combination of the two, adding that I had a personal commitment that conflicted but that if the meeting was work-related I would of course prioritize the work meeting.

Grandboss came back with, ‘It is purely meant to be social, and what dates/times would work for you, because we want everyone to have the opportunity to be there.’

So I was able to (1) ensure I still get the face time with my leaders the other team members do, (2) get the schedule changed without having to give up personal details about my conflict, or quit the non-work activity altogether, and (3) get a free lunch once a month. (I know, it’s not really free, but it is one less meal I have to plan/budget for.)

Thanks Alison for all you do! Even though I’m not a people manager, there is so much I have learned from your site.”

open thread – November 11-12, 2022

It’s the Friday open thread!

The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on any work-related questions that you want to talk about (that includes school). If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet*, but this is a chance to take your questions to other readers.

* If you submitted a question to me recently, please do not repost it here, as it may be in my queue to answer.

we can’t get the highest performance rating 2 years in a row, holding a retreat at a coworker’s house, and more

It’s four answers to four questions. Here we go…

1. Our performance rating can’t be “exceeding expectations” for two years in a row

I joined my current company a little over two years ago, where I work on a team of five people within a larger department of about 100. At the end of the year, everyone is given a performance rating of exceeding expectations (top 10% of the department), missing expectations (bottom 5% of the department), or meeting expectations (everyone else). People in the “exceeding expectations” category receive a larger bonus than the rest of the department. There is no differentiation among the 85% of people who are meeting expectations, and the financial implications of missing expectations are minimal.

Last year, at the end of my first full year with the company, I was rated as “exceeding expectations,” and I was thrilled. Throughout this year, my manager has been telling me that I’m the highest performer on our team, I’m one of the highest performers in the department, and my performance has been even better this year than last year due to some additional leadership roles I’ve taken on. However, he just informed me that my rating this year will be “meeting expectations,” not exceeding, because although he wanted to put me in the “exceeding expectations” category, the other team leaders in the department wouldn’t let him because I had already been in the “exceeding” category last year. He acquiesced, acknowledging that it’s basically impossible for someone to be in the “exceeding expectations” category for two years in a row.

This is frustrating to me. I feel like I’m being penalized this year for my high performance last year. Had I known I had no chance at exceeding expectations, I might have chosen not to work as hard all year! I’ve talked to my manager about non-financial rewards for high performance, like being selected to work on high-impact projects, but I’m not sure where that will go.

Is it standard practice for a high performance rating one year to essentially disqualify an employee from receiving a high performance rating the following year, or is my (large, worldwide) company in the minority here?

Nope, that is bullshit.

“Exceeding expectations” isn’t like a toy to be passed around, where you want to make sure everyone gets a turn with it. It’s supposed to an objective assessment of your performance.

They’re incentivizing you to only work hard every other year, and you might point that out.

2. I don’t want to hold our retreat at a coworker’s house

Is it appropriate for a coworker to volunteer their home for a one-and-a-half day work planning day if the organization won’t pay to host it off-site?

I work in tertiary education, government funded, in a small team. Because of budget issues, we have been denied funding for our plans to have an away day off-site — something we usually do to ensure people don’t wander away to their desks to check emails and not return to the meeting. A colleague offered their home, with the words “I have a large dining table” and several of the team were keen to accept the offer. The colleague has some boundary issues in the past, has their family living with them, and always wants to be everyone’s friend. I don’t want to spend a day and half in someone else’s house, and feel this is awkward. We can book a classroom or conference room in another building on campus. I am neurodivergent so find change challenging and also have sensory issues (ASC) and would like the opportunity to take a bathroom break or grab a coffee/drink without being in someone’s house and needing to ask permission. Am I being too sensitive or is going to someone’s house for work reasons not weird?

It’s not outrageous levels of weird, but it’s fairly unusual and generally most people would prefer a more professional setting. You could try saying, “I’d prefer to book a classroom or conference room on campus instead, which I think will be more comfortable than meeting in someone’s home.” If pressed for reasons, you could say meeting in someone’s home sounds more distracting and you’d find it easier to focus on work in a work setting.

If not inappropriate for your role, you also could offer to take the lead on setting that up, to increase the chances that it shakes out that way.

3. We’re interviewing someone I know has lied on their resume … because I used to manage him

I’m currently involved in hiring for a new position on my team. I’ve not reviewed applicants but will be part of the interviewing panel. I’ve just had the resumes of those who have had interviews arranged for next week given to me to go through ahead of meeting with them.

One is from a previous employee of mine from quite recently (the past year). I only joined my current company four months ago.

Not only is he claiming on his resume that he still works there after actually leaving in February, he’s listed his start date as 13 months earlier than he actually started. I know for certain he has not returned. So that’s a total of 20 extra months he’s claiming on a position he was in for 11. Alone I may have considered it a typo, but that’s before we get to the fact that the hyperbole he’s used to describe his role and achievements has him taking ownership of projects and results (that are also inaccurate) that he was only peripherally involved with. Think calling himself the “project lead” when he was only involved in a couple of hours of research support during a months-long project. I know this, I was the manager overseeing it all.

I don’t know how to handle this, both to protect my professionalism at my new company and in a way that gets him to stop. I was his direct lead, and I’m still listed as one of his references! I’m dreading the calls I might start getting during his job search. Is a simple “There are discrepancies on this candidate’s resume and I think he should be withdrawn from consideration” to the hiring manager enough? I don’t want to get drawn into anything remotely resembling gossip!

The saddest part is that he would have been a suitable candidate with the experience he truly has. I don’t want to be unkind; he left due to some pretty harrowing personal circumstances rather than work itself and, knowing him, may be in panic mode to get his life back on track. But I feel like my integrity and reputation matters here too. What should I do, both in the immediate with the interview pending, and for other potential situations that may arise?

That language isn’t sufficient to communicate the extent of the issue. Be more explicit — “I managed one of the candidates, Barnaby Mackelberry, at my last job and unfortunately what he’s put on his resume is significantly inaccurate. He was only there for half of the time he says he was, and he left nearly early this year despite saying he’s still there now. He also didn’t have the role or achievements he listed — he was only peripherally involved in projects he’s claiming he led. Because of those significant discrepancies, I think we should remove him from consideration.” That’s not gossip — that’s factual information that it would be strange for you to withhold as part of the hiring committee.

As for Barnaby himself … give him a call (after your company handles this, not before) and ask about it. Explain you’re part of the hiring committee for a job he applied for and saw what he listed, and say, “I can’t be a reference for you if you’re not reporting your dates and role accurately.” Frankly, though, even if he fixes it and starts sending out an accurate resume, I think your ability to give him a great reference has to be affected by this. This is more than a little puffing up! Talk to him and see what he says, but clear and obvious lies — even in a panic — would be a hard thing to overlook, especially when you’re putting your own professional reputation on the line to vouch for him.

4. Gracefully ending conversations with customers

I run a small residential painting company with two super employees. Many times, the client will hem them up with small talk, especially at the start of each day. I encourage my team to be cordial but be mindful that we have a job to do and the clock is ticking. How can I gracefully handle any rifts that might arise from not wanting to “visit” every time we show up for work? I’m not against my guys spending five minutes at the start and end of each day. I encourage it but many times the customer overdoes it.

Can you arm them with some warm-sounding phrases to use? For example, “Well, I better get started so we can get a lot done today.” You could also tell them to throw you under the bus with, “Well, I know Alex wants me to get started right away. Nice chatting with you.”

how can I get recruiters to just tell me the job’s salary from the start?

A reader writes:

I am not currently job hunting but am interested in keeping my ear to the ground on salaries across my industry. I frequently receive LinkedIn messages from recruiters with possible job opportunities and an invitation to have a phone call to discuss. Every time, I respond with, “To make sure we’re in the same ballpark and not waste anyone’s time, can you tell me the salary range for the role please?”

The response is either (a) silence or (b) refusal to give a straightforward answer.

This week, a recruiter’s response to this was: “Let me throw this back to you and ask what salary you would find acceptable.” I read that as, “Tell me the figure you’d accept and, if it’s thousands and thousands below what we would have offered, we can low-ball you.” I told them I was not interested if a simple answer on salary was not possible. They responded by saying conversations about salary were difficult when there were various company benefits to consider on top. Trust me, my mortgage lender would not take that as an answer.

Is there a better script to solicit an up-front number on salary, or are recruiters always going to be this slippery?

They’re going to stay this slippery until a critical mass of states pass the same sort of pay transparency legislation that California, Colorado, Rhode Island, Washington state and others (most recently New York City) have passed.

Or at least a lot of them will. Good recruiters have realized that they’re increasingly pissing off candidates and wasting everyone’s time, including their own, by not being up-front about pay. Unfortunately, there are still lots of bad recruiters out there who don’t see it that way.

Your “to make sure we’re in the same ballpark” language is fine. It’ll work with people who aren’t playing games. With people who are, there’s not really language that will get through.

However, sometimes continuing to hold firm after you get their non-answer will push them to budge. So when they turn the question around on you and ask what range you’re looking for, you can ignore that question just as they ignored yours and simply say, “I would need to know the salary range in order to move forward.”

Hell, if you want you can say, “I’m sure you know companies are moving toward salary transparency in order to combat salary inequities among women and people of color. I’d need to know the salary range in order to move forward.”

Sometimes that will work. Sometimes it doesn’t. But it’s a reasonable thing to say, and a useful thing for them to hear.

is “we have a great culture” an attempt to disguise low pay and weak benefits?

A reader writes:

I have been noticing for the last 18 months or so that my employer has been putting a lot of emphasis on their culture, most likely in response to the Great Resignation, but they have done little to change pay and benefits, or what I like to think of as the reason that I go to work.

There is nothing about my employer that is different from any other employer. The values and expected behaviors are rather cliché and there are no particularly interesting perks that you wouldn’t find in any other office. When it comes to pay, what we get at hire is usually good, but annual raises aren’t anything to write home about, and it sounds like our next round of annual increases will only be slightly higher than normal despite inflation (like 3.2% instead of 3%). When it comes to benefits, premiums for health plans have skyrocketed, and I’m noticing any benefits besides health plans and PTO are slowly being cut.

It feels to me like they are just trying to get everyone to drink the Kool-Aid and ignore that we are fall farther and farther behind the rest of market. In other words, they think a great company culture is a substitute for good pay and benefits. Am I being too cynical or am I seeing a potential warning sign?

You are not being too cynical.

Whether or not they really think the culture is enough to substitute for good pay and benefits isn’t really the point. (They might think that! People running organizations often have an incredible ability to delude themselves about things like that.) What matters is what they’re trying to convince you of and why, and it sounds like you’re seeing that pretty clearly.

when office potlucks go wrong

As we approach the season of office potlucks and other meals with coworkers, let’s discuss the many ways they can go wrong … from alarming cuisine to the person who takes an obscenely large share and never contributes anything of their own.

To kick us off, some stories from years past:

  “One of my old workplaces had a cookie baking contest, and the winner used store-bought dough. It became the source of gripes about cheating for years.”

  “I had a coworker who thought any treats were just for him. If breakfast tacos were ordered for my department, we’d usually offer other departments nearby any leftovers. As soon as he heard that leftovers were being offered, he’d go through and get *all* of the ones he wanted (example, all the brisket) and hide them in his desk drawer before the other department could get any. He’d also get in line first or near-first (he volunteered to help with setup), and would take massive amounts of what was there. If some folks didn’t get firsts while he was loading up his second, he’d say folks should have gotten there faster. Management did talk to him, but his answer was that he didn’t care.”

  “Our department used to have a huge holiday potluck every year. One coworker would always bring the same thing every year, a certain stew. But it wasn’t enough that he brought it; he hyped it up. Like, he’d send emails beforehand to the whole department alerting everyone that he was bringing his stew! On the morning of the potluck, he’d let everyone know what time the stew would be arriving! And send a special email thanking everyone that helped him do his job, and the stew was his repayment. It was like he believed the entire potluck revolved around his stew. (It didn’t.) Thing is, I don’t think anyone actually liked the stew. I think the only people who tried it were new people to the department that hadn’t tried it before.”

  “I used to work with an awful guy who used to dig his hand into bowls of catered food at our work lunches. Like pasta salad. it’s one thing to grab a few chips with your hand, but he’d put his dirty ass hand into a BOWL OF MACARONI. he was a total pig and if there was an email that said ‘leftovers from whatever meeting in the kitchen now!’ people would run to make sure they got there before old filthy hands got there because once he was spotted in the kitchen, all food was officially considered contaminated.”


In the comment section, please share your stories of potlucks, cooking competitions, and other office meals gone awry.

employer recorded audio and video while I was in bed … and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. My employer was recording audio and video while I was in bed

I normally work on site, but got Covid and had to work from home for a week. I felt pretty bad, so I was in bed for the first two days. I always put my work laptop to sleep at night and one night my husband complained that our wifi was slow. I checked our provider app, which details what is connected to our home network and using bandwidth. I was disturbed to find that my laptop wasn’t actually asleep and was recording both video and audio. This has to be illegal, right? I was in my bedroom, hardly clothed. This feels like a severe invasion of my privacy. I was never told this was being done. I feel violated and wonder where all the footage goes.

What the F’ing F. No, it’s not legal. Employers can legally monitor you through both audio and video as long as they have a legitimate business reason for doing so and it’s while you are working, and, generally, as long as they inform you/you consent to the monitoring. (Check what you’ve signed about devices.) However, recording in places where you’d reasonably expect privacy, like bathrooms and bedrooms, is almost always prohibited, as is — again — recording you at home when you’re not working.

It’s likely that the specifics of what happened was an error (they presumably didn’t expect or intend to record you in your bedroom) but it’s still unacceptable — and if you didn’t know your computer was recording video and audio in general, even outside your bedroom, that’s a problem and something you should take up with your employer immediately. (And meanwhile, get and use a camera cover ASAP.)

2. Colleagues who want long, inefficient calls and meetings for everything

I recently joined the board of a small nonprofit with no full-time staff, which means that board members do a lot of day-to-day work ourselves, and my role is particularly heavy with those day-to-day tasks. I’m struggling to work effectively with two of our long-term board members, because our professional norms are very different. They both tend towards emails with many long paragraphs, phone/voicemail/zoom as often as possible, and don’t seem to care when meetings run long or off-topic.

To me, they don’t seem to respect my time or know how to work efficiently (a 40-minute zoom call just to share complaints that generates no solutions or action items?). But I assume to them, I am overbearing or dismissive when I ask for an email instead of a call or want an agenda before scheduling something or when I try to keep meetings on-topic and on-schedule. And to be fair, my recent choice to let my voicemail box fill up so I wouldn’t get more messages is definitely not the most professional approach!

If someone I managed at my day job had these habits, I would coach them pretty intensively to make adjustments. But I don’t manage my co-board-members, and I am hesitant to apply norms that may not be as universal as I think. I don’t know where these differences are coming from — career stage (I’m mid-career, they are both semi-retired), generation (millennial vs baby boomers), industry (I work in tech, they were both lawyers), or even just personality. I’m at my wit’s end because the constant phone calls are eating away at the time I need to do the day-to-day running of the organization, and as I get frustrated, I get even more behind. Should I discuss it with them? Or just set very firm and clear boundaries for myself, and accept that they may not like it?

Do both! Tell them that your day-to-day tasks for the organization take up X hours per week so you’re looking for ways to work more efficiently and part of that will be that you need to use email rather than calls when you can, will ask for agendas before scheduling meetings, and will need to keep meetings on-topic and on-schedule. And then after that, enforce very clear boundaries for yourself — don’t pick up unscheduled phone calls, announce at the start of meetings that you have a hard stop at X time and need to get through Y and Z before then, and decline meetings that you don’t think will be a good use of time.

See how that goes. It’s possible they’ll adapt, but it’s also possible it’ll cause tension or other issues to the point that you should reevaluate if the org is the right fit for you. It sounds like you’re volunteering your time, and there’s no reason to do that past a certain (fairly low) point of aggravation. (For what it’s worth, I’ll also add that a small nonprofit with no full-time staff where the board does all the work is … a very specific model, and one where you should make sure the outcomes the org gets are strong enough to warrant the sacrifices you’re going to be making.)

3. When coworkers leave

I am several months into my first traditional office job. I work on a small, high-performing team in a much larger institution. Recently, one of my team members (not my manager, but senior to me and someone I work with daily) shared that she will be leaving soon to pursue other projects. There’s nothing particularly dramatic in her decision to resign, but I feel completely destabilized at the thought of this person leaving. She has years of institutional knowledge and has been a valuable resource and sounding board as I’ve gotten to know the organization and my role. I’m also realizing how much I rely on her as a first line of answers, compared to our less available manager. I’m feeling emotional about her leaving, but that doesn’t feel appropriate for the very professional context we know each other in. What advice do you have for transitions like this that are healthy, but still feel upsetting? How can I make the most of the last few weeks with this coworker while preparing myself to continue to contribute positively to the next evolution of my team?

The most important thing to know is … life goes on. Things will return to feeling normal faster than you think they will, even when the person who left felt indispensable. Especially early in your career when might not have seen a lot of key colleagues leave, it can feel like their departure will change everything, but it probably won’t change that much. In fact, you might even find that other relationships move in to fill the hole of that person’s departure. (What can change things a lot is if the person who replaces them is problematic in significant ways, but hopefully that won’t be the case.)

Also, keep in mind that you can stay in contact after she leaves. She could turn out to be someone who can mentor you, or just be a helpful professional contact or even become a friend.

4. Can you leave a degree off your resume?

I’m helping my husband job search and fill out applications. Is it okay to not disclose all his education? He’s a smart guy so he thought it would be a good idea to go to college at a well regarded university on his GI Bill. So he got a BS in a general business major. But the jobs he likes and the work he does and what he is very talented at is very hands-on building, fixing, machinery of all kinds. When he applies to work somewhere, they’re pretty honest about him being overqualified because he has a degree. The automatic responses sometimes suggest other jobs in the company he should apply for. Example: he is applying for maintenance and they suggest he should apply to be a nurse. Can we just leave off that he has a degree? He is so unmarketable with it.

He can leave it off. A resume isn’t required to be a comprehensive account of everything you’ve ever done! It’s a marketing document and you can leave things off if they don’t strengthen your candidacy. It’s not that he’d be hiding his degree; he’s just judging that it’s not relevant to the jobs he’s applying for.

5. My old company tried to recruit me but now is ghosting me

I left a position at the height of the pandemic on relatively good terms. I’ve kept relationships with my old team. Recently, I met up with an old teammate who has tried to recruit me back a few times. They mentioned a potential role under someone at my old company who I know and respect. Once we confirmed I’d be interested, they texted the hiring manager on the spot, who said they wanted to talk to me.

At the end of our dinner, my old teammate gave me the hiring manager’s cell phone number. I reached out within two days over text with something like, “Hope you’re well, teammate said there may be potential to chat about a role, let me know a good time to talk.” I didn’t get a response, but know this person’s job is incredibly complex and busy, so I wasn’t too concerned. It’s not a posted role or anything, so I also chalked it up to timing or that they hadn’t had a role allocation sorted.

After a few weeks, I texted the old teammate to confirm I had reached out but hadn’t heard back, and to let me know if they heard anything further. I also included other non-work stuff we connect on. But now it’s been days and I haven’t heard back from them, either. Did I make any blunders here? I am worried I missed some kind of unspoken rule about this kind of thing. I struggle with small talk and usually prefer to be to the point, so should I have eased in more? I hope it’s a case of everyone’s lives being busy, but I am worried!

It doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong. It sounds like the kind of thing that often happens with hiring, where higher priorities just get in the way and/or the person doesn’t respond until they have something concrete to report. (I don’t know why it’s so widely seen as acceptable to handle hiring stuff that way, but it is.) It’s also possible that the hiring manager decided they don’t want to talk after all, but if that happens, it’s unlikely to be anything about the way you handled it on your side.

I’d assume it’s not happening (for now, at least) for reasons that have nothing to do with you, and let them reach back out if that changes.

my boss wants to know what the private appointments on my calendar are

A reader writes:

The norm at my org, like many, is to keep your calendar updated so that meetings can be scheduled without doing the “Are you available at X time?” dance. Because of this, I include non-work appointments on my calendar, and I typically mark them as “private.” In the past month, I’ve done this for two medical appointments, picking my dog up at the groomer, and once blocking the 4:30-5 pm slot to ensure I don’t get scheduled for a meeting and can leave work on time to make an after-work commitment. All of these absences are fine with my boss; she truly does not mind as long as our calendar is updated so we don’t get scheduled for a meeting we cannot attend and our work gets done.

However, she always asks what the private appointments are on my calendar. Just yesterday she chatted me: “What is the private appointment on your calendar for on Wednesday?” As far as I know, she was not in the process of scheduling anything with me for Wednesday or any other time this week.

Am I wrong in assuming that, if I marked them private they are … private? I mean, yes, she is my boss, and it is my work calendar, so maybe she thinks she should get to ask, but I would never ask someone that. If she needed info, she could ask something like: “I see an appointment on your calendar for Wednesday around lunchtime. Is that something that can be moved?” I don’t know if it’s relevant, but we are both women working in a female-dominated field, the same age, and have worked together for 2+ years. This boss also has some pretty significant boundary issues, which is what I’ve always chalked this behavior up to, but for some reason it’s starting to get under my skin.

Is this okay for her to ask because it’s on my work calendar? And if so, how do I mark myself as unavailable in Outlook but avoid these questions? Also, what is the best way to respond? In a previous job, we were told to mark PTO requests with “business that cannot be conducted on any other day” but that seems out of place here partly because that is not my style at all and because it’s me marking myself as unavailable, not a request. I’ve tried a vague, “Oh, I have an appointment,” but sometimes she pushes for more info.

No, it’s not okay!

It would be one thing if she thought the “private” stuff was work-related — like if you’re in a job where you have confidential meetings and don’t want to put “meeting about Jeremy’s performance issues” or “meeting to finalize layoffs” on your calendar where other people will see it. But it doesn’t sound like that’s the case, particularly given what you said about her boundary issues generally.

The next time she asks, try saying, “Oh, whenever I mark something private, it’s a personal thing, not a work thing.”

For most bosses, that would be enough. But it sounds like it won’t be for her, so you could handle it this way:

Boss: What is the private appointment on your calendar on Wednesday?
You: Oh, whenever I mark something private, it’s a personal thing, not a work thing.
Boss: But what is that appointment?
You: Just a personal thing I need to take care of. If it’s creating a conflict, I can see if I can move it. (Or if you can’t move it: I can’t move it, but I can move stuff around the rest of the week if you need me to.)

Even nosy bosses will usually leave it there — you’ve just got to be willing to do that second round of pushback.

But if she does keep pushing to know what the appointment is, there’s no reason you can’t say, “Are you saying you want to know what the personal, non-work thing is?” … followed by, depending on her answer, “I’m pretty private about that stuff.” And maybe, “But if blocking off that time is causing an issue, let me know and I will try to change it.”

That’s just the one interaction though. You’ll probably be able to get her to back off in the moment (and hopefully without needing to get all the way to the end of that script), but you’ll still likely need to repeat the same exchange when she asks about other appointments in the future.

Assuming you do indeed find yourself having this exchange over and over, it’s also reasonable to say something like: “I’ve noticed you’ve been asking what appointments on my calendar marked private are. That’s always personal stuff that I prefer not to share at work. Is there a different way you want me to mark non-work appointments to make that clear?”

Or: “I’ve noticed you’ve been asking what appointments on my calendar marked private are. That’s always personal stuff that I prefer not to share at work. I’d be grateful if you’d assume that’s the case when you see slots marked that way. But if there’s a different way you want me to mark them, I can.”

With nosy bosses, it’s always interesting to ponder whether (a) their nosiness stems from thinking their position entitles them to poke around in your private business or (b) they’re nosy people in all areas of life and haven’t realized that nosiness toward someone they manage has a very different power dynamic than nosiness toward, say, their neighbor or their sister-in-law. I tend to think it’s about 70% B and only 30% A (there are a lot of nosy, boundary-violating people out there and some of them become managers) … but in some ways a manager who’s oblivious about power dynamics can be almost as bad as one who intentionally exploits them.

how to say no without sounding negative

A reader writes:

I’m by nature an over-thinker/highly analytical person. When I make a structural or wording choice, I put a huge amount of thought into which of the many options will be clearest and easiest to understand.

When I then bring the draft to my client or to colleagues, they will often have many suggestions. Inevitably, because a) it’s my job and b) I’m an overthinker, I’ve already given serious thought to the option they put forward and discarded it for several reasons. It’s often a good idea on the face of it, and it was worth thinking through before discarding. But the end result is a dynamic where I am just saying a litany of “No, because then we would have to change X, no because that would conflict with Y, no that wouldn’t work, no no no.” I have these reasons immediately at hand because it’s just the thinking I already put into it. But it may look like I’m shooting it down automatically because my response is so quick.

I don’t like that I’m being so negative and shooting everything down. It looks like I’m not open to feedback or changes. But I can’t see a way to avoid it other than not putting in serious thought when I first do the work. (Occasionally there is something I haven’t thought of it and I take it seriously and listen! But I’ve had days or weeks to think about it, and this is people’s initial impulses on first seeing it.) Is there a way to respond to these suggestions that isn’t so negative but also doesn’t imply I haven’t done any previous thought or analysis?

I answer this question — and two others — over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and sometimes updating/expanding my answers to them). You can read it here.

Other questions I’m answering there today include:

  • Employee keeps calling out sick because she “ate too much”
  • Recruiting someone who works for an important customer

my team excludes me from lunches because of my dietary restrictions

A reader writes:

I have Celiac disease, which is an autoimmune disease that causes my body to essentially attack itself whenever I eat gluten. It’s not super common, but common enough that I know several people who have it. Since I was diagnosed 10 years ago, gluten-free options have gotten much more common at restaurants and it’s way easier for me to find places to eat out these days.

Thankfully, I am not so sensitive to gluten the way that many people with CD are, but I do typically get an upset stomach for a day or two if I eat gluten, plus the occasional migraine/brain fog. It’s not life-ending, but it’s bad enough to keep me from giving 100% when I need to.

On four separate occasions since I started my job less than a year ago, I have been left out of my department’s lunches due to my dietary restrictions.

Once, for a lunch meeting, I was ordered a salad (JUST lettuce and dressing, without any protein or additional veggies) when everyone else got gourmet sandwiches. When I mentioned that I might have to go get a more substantial lunch, the person who ordered the lunch asked if I could just take the bread off a sandwich and eat what was inside. (No.) Another time, the caterer forgot to include my order, and the admin in charge of picking it up just shrugged about it without offering to go get a replacement, so I ended up just going out to buy myself lunch. (I paid for it myself.) A month ago, an email went to everyone EXCEPT me to order from a local burger place, and people talked about their orders around me in hushed tones. And today, a coworker ordered pizza for “everyone,” but didn’t order anything I could eat. This is not to mention the constant stream of bagels, donuts, cakes, and other treats that are brought in for the whole team (except me, apparently).

I know that Celiac disease is covered by the ADA, but I’m assuming this isn’t illegal because no one is technically depriving me of safe food. However, I feel like people are acting like huge jerks by excluding me like this! I’ve had a rough couple of months at work due to stress, and I contribute a lot to my team in very well-documented and significant ways. It feels like no one cares enough to make me feel included in these employee appreciation efforts, though. It’s not that hard to find gluten-free options — I do it all the time!

What should I do? My direct boss works remotely, so it seems silly and almost passive aggressive to bring it up to him to have him advocate for me. It feels super awkward to bring it up to anyone else, especially because different managers usually cover the costs and make the orders. I’m really hurt by the exclusion and I’m starting to build some resentment toward my coworkers because of it. Is there a polite way to bring it up in the moment? Am I overreacting by feeling excluded?

You’re not overreacting. If there’s a work event where the company is providing food, they should provide food you can eat. Giving you lettuce isn’t acceptable, and shrugging and doing nothing when your order doesn’t show up isn’t okay either.

Dietary restrictions are so incredibly common — whether it’s people who need vegetarian meals, or kosher or halal ones, or gluten-free, or a whole bunch of other things — that it’s a little ridiculous for a company not to have any plan in place for meeting a diversity of dietary needs. That’s especially true when you consider the reason why companies generally provide food in the first place: it’s to make people feel taken care of and appreciated … or at least to make sure they’re not driven to distraction by hunger at a working lunch.

And it’s just not that hard to do. If they’re having trouble finding options that will work for you, then at a minimum whoever orders food should talk to you and ask what solutions would work. It could be as simple as you suggesting a couple of places you can order from/dishes you can eat and they order those separately for you each time. Problem solved.

Casual food orders organized by coworkers on their own are a little different. It would be thoughtful and polite for them to include you if they can, but it’s not at the same level of problem as being overlooked during official stuff is. If a group of coworkers decide to order a pizza, it would be kind for them to say, “We’re getting pizza. Is there anything you want to order?” … but I suspect you wouldn’t be as bothered by them not thinking of that (or by the steady stream of treats people bring in) if you weren’t being so regularly excluded by more official food events too.

As for what to do … Ideally there would be one person handling food orders and you could just talk to that person, but it’s trickier since it’s different managers managing the orders for different events. You can still solve it though! Try the following:

* Talk to your boss (it doesn’t really matter that he works remotely; this is still a team thing that it makes sense to go through him for). Say this: “I’m finding I can never eat at team events where food is provided because whoever’s ordering just gets me lettuce with dressing instead of a full meal, or even nothing at all. I’d like to start ordering my own meals for those events so I’m not starving while everyone around me is eating, especially for meetings that are intended to take place over lunch. Can I just start managing my own food orders to ensure I can eat, and then submitting for reimbursement? Or is there another way I could handle it?”

* If there’s an office administrator type who’s involved with a lot of the food plans, even though they’re not organizing all of them, talk to that person too. You’re better off going in with a specific solution to propose (since you know better than they do what will work). For example, you could say, “Could we arrange to always do a separate order for me during catered events so I’m able to eat with everyone else? Restaurants A and B are easy for me to order from.” If they seem hesitant about that, you could suggest the reimbursement option instead, but ideally they’d just fold your order in with the rest of the food ordering.

* When you hear coworkers talking about ordering food, speak up! Say, “I’d love to order something to eat with you. Can you give me a minute to look at the menu? If they don’t have something I can eat, I’ll order from a separate place but still eat with you.” Or if you don’t find out until they’ve already ordered, try saying, “I’d love to know next time you’re ordering so I can get myself something and join you.” If you do that enough times, people are likely to start more automatically offering you that option (whereas right now their brains are probably stopping at “Jane can’t eat pizza”).

I’m going to close this out with an email a client of mine once sent out that solved this problem beautifully, as inspiration for anyone who wants their own team to handle this better (identifying details changed/removed):

You might not have noticed, but our team has grown by ELEVENTY BILLION people this year, and with that awesome growth, our food preferences now span a very wide spectrum: I’m talking paleo to vegan!

Within that spectrum, we’re finding it hard to find catering that can please everyone, so here’s our solution for meetings in the future:
We will still try really hard to select food options where everyone on our team can find something to eat;
We will provide you with the menu(s) ahead of time; and
If you will not get enough nutrition from those menus, you can feel free to order your own food (no judgment!) on us. We just ask that you let X know you’re doing so ahead of time so we can adjust numbers for our caterers.

We’re going to try this out for (meeting) next week! Below you will find the planned menus, and we’d love for you to look them over, see if the meals work for you, and, if not, give X a heads-up by Tuesday morning at the latest.

People in charge of food: Steal this idea.

Read an update to this letter.