it’s your Friday good news by Alison Green on October 21, 2022 It’s your Friday good news! 1. “I worked for a small company (less than 20 people) for 10 years. Right from the start, it was obvious that the workload would be crushing; my responsibilities and roles were overwhelming, my phone never stopped ringing 24/7, and all this for meager pay. I was young and naïve. I let myself get led on by my boss and stayed for colleagues who were the most amazing people. In 2019, a sudden shift in company culture took away the few things that were positive about my job. I started having panic attacks, but in hindsight, I am grateful for this fact. My body was trying to warn me; without this, I would have never decided to take action. I decided to quit overnight, without having anything else lined up. I gave them a three-month notice, which was horrible and dragging, as the level of dysfunction had risen exponentially. Unfortunately, my last day of work coincided with the beginning of a very strict lockdown due to COVID in my city. Of course, I feel so sorry for the people that lost their lives and suffered the sequences of the pandemic; however, it was an opportunity for me to regroup, relax, and spend time with my family. I started seeing a therapist and eventually started job hunting again. I applied to a few selected positions and I had interviews for most of them. My shift in mentality was impressive. I felt that I was interviewing them and had great interviews and offers. In the first offer, I was able not only to negotiate salary but working fewer hours although the position was designed to be full-time. Unfortunately, negotiations coincided with a second lockdown and I declined the offer as I decided not to juggle so many things, having to take care of my kid who attended first grade remotely. A few months passed and a friend of mine recommended me to the company she worked for. I loved the field and soon I had an offer for a part-time position for the same amount of money I got working 70-hour weeks in my previous personal hell. I work permanently from home, there is huge flexibility, and management is great. As for my previous employer, all members of staff gradually started to quit within 1 year of me leaving. Adding the old contractors that started declining to work with the company soon after I left, they lost more than 50 dedicated, very knowledgeable people. Most companies keep contacting me if there is any new role that fits my skills. So far, I am happy with my current job but I keep job hunting to find something that ticks more boxes. I feel empowered and happy with where my life is going. I owe a huge thank you to Alison and the commenters; you guided me through every step of the process, helped me gain back my confidence, and provided a reality check regarding toxic and healthy working environments. Reading the stories and comments helped me realize that there is a light at the end of the tunnel and other people set an encouraging example at the times I needed it the most. I hope everything goes well for all of you!” 2. “For the last 5 years I’ve been working in a government organization local to me. I’ve felt extremely proud of what I’ve accomplished but there’s been a problem. I’ve been told that I have ‘helium hand’ syndrome … when someone reaches out in search of help I raise my hand and volunteer. The other side of it is that I have a reputation for doing my work well, keeping folks in the loop, and executing well in a variety of situations. So people seek me out a not small amount of time. Unfortunately, while there is always more work and responsibilities in these kinds of jobs, and temporary assignments tend to become permanent, there isn’t always a rush (or an ability) to adjust compensation in order to match those duties. So reluctantly and slowly, I started to reach out to my network to let them know that I was available and looking. In the next few weeks, I’ll be starting a new job at a significant pay increase and with a title / job that matches the work I do and opens a path to doing even more senior work as we move forward. I will miss the place that I’m leaving tremendously, and I’m proud of the work I’ve left behind. A big part of it was reading this site and seeing the continued reminders to know your value, to pursue your value, and that in the end you have to make the choices that are right for you. So thanks to everyone! Looking forward to these next challenges. ” 3. “I’ve been reading your site for years now, and I’m delighted that I finally am able to write in for Friday good news! I work in academic librarianship, and I spent almost a decade in an environment that was varying degrees of toxic depending on who was in my reporting line at the time. After many years and two promotions in rank, I knew there wasn’t going to be room to advance in the hierarchy or get paid appropriately (I was making an entry level salary still), so I geared up to begin job hunting. This was early 2020, so I’m sure everyone can guess what happened next. Fast forward to 2021. My institution was a mixed bag in terms of handling the pandemic, but things that had been previously tolerable no longer were and it was high time to get a new position. I was determined not to act out of desperation, so I was very selective in what I applied for. I revamped my CV, tailored my cover letters, and looked exclusively for management positions as I’d determined that’s where I wanted to go in my career. Every single application in my field was met with a first round interview, and I had multiple invitations for the second round as well! I interviewed them as much as they interviewed me (and used the magic question) and ended up negotiating an amazing offer. I got a 60% raise, relocation benefit, tenure-track faculty status (I was previously staff), hybrid work, access to PTO as of day one, and I’d be building and managing a brand new department! I’ve been at the new position for a few months, and so far all is well! I’ve definitely gotten a crash course in what is involved in being a manager, and despite navigating some challenging situations I’m loving it so far. My reports are amazing, and I’ve been supported as I gradually work to shape our department and build a positive work culture that supports setting boundaries and other healthy workplace practices (don’t work outside of work! use your pto! it’s okay to say no to things! don’t do more with less!). I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop because of past experiences, and am pleasantly surprised that it hasn’t yet. Thanks for running such a wonderful site! I’ve learned so much and it’s been helping me be a better manager from day one.” 4. “Last year, my husband started a new job where he was immediately asked to support a different team in a new-to-the-company department that was relevant to his background. That has worked out splendidly for him: he didn’t just end up supporting this team — he effectively stood the whole department up and got a lot of visibility in upper management for a smooth transition both when their system went live and bringing on a big client. It’s currently only a department of two, but they promoted him to team lead with a 20% pay raise! (He’s still paid a bit low, but at least this was a good jump, percentage wise) They are also likely to hire someone else on his team and his current manager wants to promote him to an official manager in the not-too-distant future. His good news was quickly followed by my own: my manager moved to a different role in the company and I was asked to fill her role as manager! So I moved from my own team lead position to an official manager of 4 — and soon to be 6 or 7! While I actually got a bigger pay bump last year than this year (odd and a little deflating — but I did ask for more and they bumped it up a little and I’ll still be eligible for a merit increase during our regular appraisal cycle), it’s a mental “win” to be part of official management. I’m not sure I’ll want to be a manager of people forever but I think it will be a good next step in my career and will definitely expand my skill-set. I’ve already asked about any sort of management training that’s available and while our company doesn’t offer much, my boss said we can look at other opportunities outside the company too (I’ve already got your book, but I figure some other resources couldn’t hurt!).” You may also like:do my clothes and car make me look like I don't "need" a job -- and is that a problem?my employee sent me a "letter of intent" to look for another jobI burned a bridge in a spectacular way -- how do I deal with everyone talking about it? { 23 comments }
open thread – October 21-22, 2022 by Alison Green on October 21, 2022 It’s the Friday open thread! The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on any work-related questions that you want to talk about (that includes school). If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet*, but this is a chance to take your questions to other readers. * If you submitted a question to me recently, please do not repost it here, as it may be in my queue to answer. You may also like:my coworkers make orgasm sounds while I'm on the phoneCEO's wife ruined my job prospectshere's a bunch of help finding a new job { 1,035 comments }
should I tell my boss he’s why I’m leaving, fundraising at work, and more by Alison Green on October 21, 2022 It’s four answers to four questions. Here we go… 1. Is it worth telling my manager that he’s why I’m leaving? I’ve been at my current company for over a decade. I’ve been a high performer throughout, received excellent reviews, I’m at the high end of pay for my role, and have been told that my leaving would be a blow. Not in the “you can’t go” way, but from a very senior person who has been a mentor for me and was trying to point out that while my manager doesn’t, everyone else sees and values my contribution. I’m on the verge of leaving. There’s no further growth here, there’s very little work from home flexibility (and no good reason for it), and my boss is awful. He’s a nice person, but totally complacent and lazy. When I go on vacation, he’s meant to cover my work. This means I come back and am immediately drowning in missed or half done, sloppy work. Other team members and I will come up with simple, actionable ideas to improve workflow. However, we’ll need him to work with another team. He always says he’ll bring it up but never does. One item I’ve been bringing up for five years! He doesn’t tell us when someone calls out even though he should be managing the team’s workload to distribute the extra work. Having worked with him as long as I have I do call him out on things, but he’s like Teflon; nothing sticks. Is it worth trying to explain to him what role he’s had in how unhappy I’ve become here? I like my colleagues and feel like if I can help I should help. But then, I’m so tired of the whole thing. Would it be a kindness to point out how his team feels? I would love to give you a different answer, but it’s very unlikely to make a difference. Someone who operates like your manager does is very unlikely to hear a rundown of his faults and suddenly become a capable, competent manager. He might make some changes around the edges, but he’s not going to become a different person. (You also risk causing problems for the coworkers who are staying if you present it as “how his team feels.”) You might be able to share the feedback with someone with authority over him — or someone with the ear of someone with authority over him — but once you’re on your way out the door, it’s usually more in your interests to just make a clean getaway and enjoy this not being your problem anymore. I know you’re thinking you could help out your coworkers … but unless there’s someone in authority there who you know to be highly responsive to this kind of information, it’s so unlikely to cause meaningful changes. 2. I’m struggling with motivation at my internship I am an undergraduate who is currently working in a part-time internship in the career field I want to get into. I am embarrassed to admit this because I feel so bad about this, but I have been really slacking on my internship work. I’ve been slow on my assignments and I have also started coming into work 20-30 minutes late, not on purpose but because I’ve been having trouble getting myself out of bed. I lost a close family friend unexpectedly earlier this month and it hit me super hard. I didn’t tell my work about the loss because I didn’t need to take any days off for the funeral and also it felt too personal to really tell my boss about. Ever since then, I just have not been doing my best at work. And I feel really upset and ashamed about this. I usually pride myself on my good work ethic but I am totally cognizant that I am slacking, and I know that my boss notices it. We’re in-person but we can ask to work remotely ever so often although it’s not encouraged. I’ve started calling in to work remotely at least one day a week because some days I just don’t have the energy to go into the office, do the commute, buy lunch, etc. I know I should be coming in every day. I feel so guilty about it every time I stay home or come in late. I just … I don’t know what happens. My boss talked to me this week about how I need to try to come in on time. She hasn’t addressed the days I work from home yet but I know she doesn’t like it. I just wish I could start over and make a better impression. I need to get my life together and fix this. But I know that I already have the reputation of being a slacker. How do I even start addressing this? I could try my best to come in on time every single day and get all my work done – that should be the bare minimum. I just don’t know how to turn things around without flat-out telling my boss that I know I’ve been slacking off. I feel so lost and hopeless. Do I even have a chance at fixing this? Please talk to your boss! She’s clearly noticed some problems even if she doesn’t know the extent of the slacking off, and knowing the context that would likely make a big difference to her understanding of what’s going on. It’s really normal for people to struggle at work after a serious loss like this, and it’s okay to share that with your boss. You could say, “I want to let you know that I’ve been struggling over the last few weeks — I lost a close friend unexpectedly earlier this month and it’s hit me very hard. I will be redoubling my efforts not to let it affect my work, but when you talked to me about my schedule recently, I realized I needed to explain what’s been happening.” This is the kind of thing that most managers will be sympathetic to and she’s likely to want to accommodate you … whereas if she doesn’t know what happened, she’ll be left to fill in the blanks on her own. Talk to her! 3. Fundraising at work I know you have written about how to deal with pushy fundraising at the office, but I was wondering if you had any advice on how to respectfully approach this as a fundraiser? I have Type 1 diabetes (T1D), a chronic medical condition, and this month is the 20th anniversary of my diagnosis. It also happens to be an important anniversary for the T1D community as October 1923 is when insulin was produced and distributed on a commercial scale. October 25th also marks the anniversary of the inventors winning a Nobel prize for their work. I have been toying with the idea of running a fundraising campaign to benefit a few different national and international research, advocacy, and health organizations that focus on T1D. My plan at work was to reach out to the folks I know well and have discussed my experience with. But, I work at a mission-driven organization with a long history of global health programming (along with other economic development topics). I think others in the organization would be interested in supporting the cause, but I don’t want to overstep. I thought I could post on our company’s social feed (think Facebook-style) and present the info, link to donate, and perhaps ask for suggestions for T1D-focused organizations in the countries where my company operates. I plan to only post once, maybe twice publicly, then follow up individually with the folks I know well. I’d appreciate your feedback, as I don’t want to be “that person” at the office! Your plan to post on the internal* social feed sounds fine, assuming your company doesn’t prohibit solicitations (although that’s something to check if you’re not sure) — but I would stick to doing that once, not twice. I’d be wary, though, of following up with individuals one-on-one; that creates a lot more pressure to respond/donate than a group posting does. (Group posting is more the equivalent of posting something on an office bulletin board, which people can ignore if they want to, whereas one-on-one follow-up is more like showing up in someone’s office to ask if they’ll donate. The latter does cross a line at work.) * I’m assuming that Facebook-like social feed is internal; if it’s not, you’d need to get the sign-off of whoever manages your company’s external communications. 4. How do you keep information confidential without feeling like you’re lying to your coworkers? As the communications director for my small org, when there’s an internal shake-up or news about leadership, I often know before my peers do because I provide counsel or have to write the emails and announcements. This puts me in a tricky position when a colleague who knows enough to know that “something’s up” asks me,”Do you know anything about what happened after that board meeting?” or “Did you know that Sally was going to step down?” I’m fortunate to be trusted by executive leadership and by my colleagues as someone who has the organization’s best interests at heart. But to maintain that trust on both sides, I need to be able to keep mum without feeling like I’m lying by saying, “No, I have/had no idea!” What’s the right way to respond that respects both my superiors’ confidence and my relationships with well-meaning peers who just want to know what’s going on? To the questions after it’s been announced (“did you know…”): “Not until right beforehand.” To the questions before anything has been announced (“do you know anything about…”): “I can never share anything from board meetings until there are public announcements, even dull stuff.” But obviously this one is trickier because you’re indicating you might know something but aren’t sharing it — but you’re also underscoring that maintaining confidentiality is part of your job. Someone who presses you beyond that is being a jerk by putting you in an unfair position and you can respond flatly with, “I’m not allowed to share anything from those meetings. You’re putting me in a weird position.” You may also like:I just found out I'm seriously underpaid -- now what?do I need to give interviewers a great reason for why I'm looking to leave my current job?our boss is demanding a gift with an accounting of names and how much each person contributed { 225 comments }
how do I rebuild trust in my incompetent manager? by Alison Green on October 20, 2022 A reader writes: My manager was an amazing individual contributor, but a year in, it’s fairly obvious that management is not a good fit for her. She’s defensive, disorganized, thin-skinned, and quick to blame others. But I love the rest of my job, so I’ve made my peace with this trade-off and found ways to work around her. Until recently. Last week, she introduced an error into my work that (if I hadn’t caught it) would have had massive repercussions for the reputation of the company and me personally. She seems to feel that because there were mitigating circumstances (distraction on her part) and because it was caught, there was no harm done. I reported the incident to her manager, and while they’re taking it seriously, I imagine they’re going to handle it with a stern conversation and some coaching, meaning I’m stuck working with her for the foreseeable future. But I feel like all of my trust in her has been destroyed. I don’t trust her judgment, so I resist asking her for advice/guidance, and when she suggests an idea in a brainstorm, I find myself immediately biased against it. I am so certain she’s going to introduce another error into my work that I find myself arguing over minor changes I previously would have just accepted. Every management misstep, which I’ve previously tried to just ignore/work around, is now more evidence that she can’t be trusted. I don’t want to leave my job over this, but I also don’t want to spend every day being argumentative and on edge, unable to trust my manager’s judgment and decisions. What can I do on my end to move past this incident and rebuild trust in my manager, at least to my previously neutral stance? I’m not sure you can, or even that you should! It sounds like you’re right to distrust her judgment and her competence in this role. I’d be less concerned if she had responded to her huge mistake last week differently. If she had seemed rattled by it, taken it seriously, and talked about how to ensure nothing similar happened again, that would have been a much more reassuring response. Instead, though, it sounds like she doesn’t see it as a big deal. Maybe that will change once she gets the stern management conversation that you think is coming. But it’s concerning that it wasn’t her first reaction. That doesn’t mean you should spend every day “argumentative and on edge” — and nor would that be good for your quality of life — but it sounds like you’re right not to default to trusting her. That’s a really tough place to be if your work requires you to seek/accept her input with any regularity. If you worked relatively independently and didn’t need to work with her very often, this might be workable (not great, but workable). But it sounds like you have to work with her pretty often. I think ultimately you’ll need to get clear on a few things: how much you do need to interact with her about your work, whether there are ways to limit her input, and whether there are ways to ensure any ineptness from her reflects back on her rather than on you. The answers to those questions will vary depending on the nature of your job … but if the overall picture is that her incompetence will affect your work often, that’s not a sustainable place to dwell for very long. If that’s the situation and you don’t want to leave over it, your only real option would be to consider going over her head. If you have a lot of capital and credibility built up there and there’s someone above her who you think would take this seriously, you could consider a discreet conversation with that person (possibly using this most recent incident to frame it — “I’ve been struggling with whether to raise this but last week’s incident is part of a pattern of problems that I’m not able to resolve on my own”). Going over your boss’s head can be really tricky — and often isn’t advisable at all — but if you have the right person to go to (someone who’s forthright about tackling problems and will ensure you’re not retaliated against — the second quality, unfortunately, is nearly as important as the first), it’s something you could think about. But I don’t think the question you’re asking — how do I rebuild my trust in someone who’s shown themselves untrustworthy? — is the right one. You may also like:when should you go over your boss's head?how can I tactfully point out to coworkers that a miscommunication error is theirs?my mentor falsely accused someone of sexism on my behalf without my knowledge { 123 comments }
updates: disclosing PTSD, faking interest in a job, and more by Alison Green on October 20, 2022 Here are four updates from past letter-writers. 1. Disclosing PTSD at work (#2 at the link) Alison kindly responded to my email privately with some extra info, and I thought I’d give an update. I followed her advice and let my supervisors know I’m dealing with PTSD due to complicated family issues. They were extremely understanding and immediately asked how they could help. I was given carte blanche to work from home full time if I want to (or whenever I want to) or get a private office with a closed door to muffle sound, set up with HR and FMLA and was encouraged to use it whenever I need it, and security and front desk staff were given a quiet heads up about screening calls and visitors for me. I didn’t disclose much information beyond that and wasn’t asked to. Other than that, work has proceeded as normal! Thank you so much to everyone sending well wishes and letting me know I’m not alone. While it’s devastating to think so many of us have PTSD or similar experiences, it’s definitely healing to know there are others who understand! I appreciate the advice and think this is a huge step towards rebuilding my career. 2. Can I ask for more money for extending my notice period? (#4 at the link) Thank you for answering my question. I thought about your response and you were right — I didn’t want to give my current employer more time. I’m leaving due to an unpleasant boss and career stagnation and I’m excited to get started with my new employer. My boss had the nerve to be surprised I could command a higher salary than I’m currently paid! Even though he has assigned me every high profile, high priority project that has come into our department for the year I’ve been here. Seriously clueless. Thanks for helping me through this transition, hearing your wisdom gave me the confidence to turn down extending my time and refusing to consider a counter offer. 3. I was planning to leave my job for grad school, but… (#3 at the link) First, I wanted to say thank you for your sound advice back in 2020! I left for my master’s and completed it in 2021. That program opened the door for me to start my PhD at the same school, which I had been wanting to do ever since I finished college. Best of all, I changed advisors from my master’s advisor to a new faculty member for my PhD. This new advisor is completely the opposite of academic research stereotypes. As a boss, they care about trainees having boundaries, privacy, and work-life balance. They don’t just pay lip service to, they actually do something about equity and inclusion of people from all backgrounds, but especially those who were historically excluded from academia. They also have supervised other trans students before and have had *ZERO* mistakes using my they/them pronouns since the day I told them. Asking for that retention raise back in 2020 didn’t even hurt me like I was concerned it would, because my boss from industry is still happy to write me recommendations and I’ve been a reference for him a few times as well. 4. Should I fake interest in the job during an interview? First off, thank you so much for answering my letter! It gave me a moment to step back and look at it from a different perspective. I generally consider myself an enthusiastic (see: energetic) person, so it really threw me for a loop. I definitely agree my background in multiple disciplines spoke volumes. With my work experience I would be considered a generalist in my field rather than a specialist. While I made the right decision in not pursuing those positions (and they not pursuing me!), I confess desperation probably had a bit to do with it. But in cheesy good news, I landed my dream job! A company I was chasing for years reached out to me for an amazing position. I’m incredibly supported by my managers — and they in turn lean on me for work outside the typical straight and narrow. My generalist background has really helped me in this position and I couldn’t be more “interested.” :) You may also like:kicking a coworker out of our social huddles, disclosing PTSD at work, and morecan my company make me stay home with a cold, leaving a job for grad school, and moremy male boss won't have closed-door meetings with me because he's married { 14 comments }
how do I balance my own disability needs with cultural sensitivity at work? by Alison Green on October 20, 2022 It’s the Thursday “ask the readers” question. A reader writes: I am the team lead for a project developing a new social service, and one substantial part of that new service will be specifically for indigenous communities. Our team is beginning a process of indigenous community engagement, and we are being met with a lot of wariness/skepticism due to the long history of non-indigenous people coming into indigenous communities and attempting to “develop services” that actually harm indigenous communities (ex. residential schools, the sixties scoop, etc). In order to develop this relationship, our main indigenous contact has invited us to a pow-wow and has suggested that we should attend additional pow-wows and indigenous cultural events as a way to build trust with the indigenous community (and presumably as a gesture of goodwill to show that we are willing to approach indigenous communities with humility and as guests rather than experts). I think this could be a very valuable thing for our team to do and I am supportive of the idea. However, I am autistic, and in general I find cultural events (including religious events, parades, parties, concerts, assemblies, live music, musical theater, etc.) very overstimulating. I get overwhelmed easily by loud music and by crowds, and from my research about pow-wows, I understand that they are likely to be both loud and crowded. Typically when I need to be in loud/crowded situations (ex. on an airplane), I bring noise-cancelling headphones and take breaks whenever I’m getting overwhelmed, or I often choose to leave early (ex. at parties). However, I am worried that these strategies would seem disrespectful and inappropriate at an indigenous cultural event and would serve to undermine the relationship I hope to build. But I also worry that I may not be able to tolerate many hours of loud music/crowds without exhibiting noticeable signs of distress, and if I look like I’m not enjoying myself or if I’m fidgeting/agitated/doing the normal things I would do to reduce overstimulation, that would also undermine the relationship with indigenous communities and also set a bad example for my team. I’m not confident in my ability to “mask” sufficiently well in this kind of situation to avoid others noticing my discomfort, and I think my anxiety about the possibility of getting overstimulated would put me on edge for most of the day. I’m not sure how to handle this. I think going to the pow-wow is important and necessary, since I’m the primary contact for this project and it’s important that indigenous community members see me there and see that I respect their culture and am willing to learn from them. I don’t think I can just send someone else in my place. I also don’t feel comfortable disclosing my disability or potential disability-related needs. None of my colleagues know I’m autistic, and in the past when I have disclosed my autism at other jobs, I’ve either been disbelieved (because when people think of an autistic person, they’re not thinking of a very high-functioning early-30s woman with two master’s degrees from an Ivy League school and a director-level position at a big organization) or treated with kid gloves (because people have assumptions about autism that they apply to me and suddenly assume I’m incompletent at my job). But I also know that unfamiliar social situations + loud music + crowds are all triggers for autistic overstimulation (and I generally avoid events outside of work as a result…I never go with colleagues to a bar or pub after work because I just can’t handle it), and the stakes here are pretty high…I need to make a good impression in order to make this project succeed, and while I’m good at my actual job, I am NOT good at unstructured/unfamiliar social situations, especially those that are loud and busy. Any advice would be appreciated! The comment section is open! Many readers have pointed out that this question wasn’t well suited for an “ask the readers” question. I looked at it as a question about accommodations and navigating autism at work, when it really needed expertise from the Indigenous community in order to be posted here. Thank you to those of you who called it out. I’ve removed most of the comments but am leaving up those with input from Indigenous commenters offering both advice for the letter-writer and input on why the question wasn’t a useful one to pose in this manner (and have moved the Indigenous input to the top). I’ve also left a handful of comments from non-Indigenous readers that tackled other angles that I thought might be useful to the letter-writer or others in a similar situation. You may also like:employee said awful things about a coworker who was on the phone, company's leaders are all white men, and morewas this interview as bizarre as I think it was?calling out racism, supporting a Black manager, and other questions with Michelle Silverthorn { 98 comments }
my boss has terrible ideas about social media, video games on your resume, and more by Alison Green on October 20, 2022 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. My boss has terrible ideas about social media I’m part of an academic research lab, and our PI desperately wants us (postdocs and Ph.D. students) to do an amazing job with our lab’s social media, but whenever it comes to concrete suggestions on how this would happen, he shoots down all of our ideas. This is ridiculously egregious. The first time my PI asked, I went to my friend who is a social media professional, and together we drew up a list of ideas (basically, fun science facts and photos of our adorable lab cats). This was destined for success! I mean, LAB CATS. Our PI refused, on the grounds that we had to show that we were very serious. The other postdocs and Ph.D. students proposed similarly practical, reasonable social media campaigns (interviews of us in front of attractions in our aspirational tourist city! March Madness style brackets of our favorite dromedary species!), only to have all of those rejected in turn. Instead, our PI wanted to post pictures of himself with notable politicians. You see, our PI was recently elected to a minor government position (think, member of the school board) and has since been rubbing elbows with those on the political circuit, and … you get the idea. When he asked for more suggestions, he got crickets, because … why. Why would anyone suggest anyone else only to be told they were wrong? Later, my PI confided in me how sad and unreasonable it is that he is handling all the social media all himself, and none of the people who should be helping are. He has another meeting planned, and we are going to discuss social media again there. Please send help. This is a recipe for a nightmare thankless time sink that takes away from our other work, work that actually furthers our careers, and I don’t know what to do other than feigning incompetence and being hopelessly noncommittal. I can’t speak to the politics of academia at all, which can sometimes be quite different from other workplaces, but can you just decline? Can you say, “Social media isn’t my area of expertise, and I think I should focus my time on XYZ”? Or if that’s too straightforward, can you just be aggressively unhelpful about it — “Hmmm, I don’t know. You’ve heard all the suggestions I could think of.” … “I’m not sure what would be best, it’s not really my thing.” … etc.? The other option would be for you and your fellow team members to push back on your PI’s preferred strategy, possibly suggesting some A/B testing so you get real data on what does and doesn’t work … but it doesn’t sound like you want to take that on, which is completely reasonable. 2. Putting video game playing on your resume My daughter is in college and trying to create a resume with very minimal work experience (so far). She plays video games as a member of her school’s esports team. It’s actually very competitive to get on the team, but is this the kind of thing that many (most?) employers would find silly or even negative? Or am I just old? She could name it as one of several hobbies or campus activities she’s involved in (like a single line reading “president of the climate action group, member of competitive campus esports team, and avid chess player”) … but I wouldn’t put more focus on it than that. She definitely shouldn’t make it its own item on her resume similar to how you’d list a job (if that’s what she’s considering); that would come across as giving it inappropriate weight. Related: can I put World of Warcraft leadership experience on my resume? 3. Will I be allowed to work a standard notice period if I’m on a performance improvement plan when I resign? I’m currently in the first month of a three-month performance improvement plan at my job. I made a fairly high-profile mistake at my job and haven’t made a mistake since, but was put on the plan as a result of the error. I had been thinking about moving on before all of this, so I began taking calls from recruiters and am at the references stage for a new role. I’m beginning to think about the timeline for my departure and was anticipating giving a standard two-week notice once I sign a new offer, and taking a few weeks off before starting the new role to reflect on what happened and recharge since this experience was pretty awful. Should I anticipate being able to serve the notice period given that I am on a PIP? Our company policies request a standard two-week notice, but I’m concerned about being told that the day I offer my resignation will be my last day and being out nearly a half of a month of income. What’s customary in these situations? If there’s a risk I’ll be asked to leave immediately, I’d rather quit with no notice period and start two weeks after that date, given the circumstances. I feel the relationship with my manager is already irreparably damaged in a way that quitting without notice won’t make worse, and the two weeks of unemployment insurance would be a tiny fraction of what I’d normally earn during that pay period. It’s hard to say with certainty. If your work is going okay, they’re likely to let you work out the two-week notice period. If they felt firing you at the end of the PIP was a real possibility, most employers would be relieved to have you end things on your own initiative so they don’t have to, and will be glad to let things wrap up as harmoniously as possible. If they didn’t feel it was likely the PIP would end with firing you, they’re even more likely to treat your resignation like they would anyone’s else. I’d say there’s significantly more chance that they’ll let you work the notice period than not, but there’s no way to know for sure. One possibility is to tell the new employer when you’re setting a start date that you’d like to start in four weeks, but ask if you can leave that tentative until you speak with your current employer to see if two weeks would make more sense (and then if your current job does have you leave right away, you can come back to the new job and say you can start in two weeks after all). 4. Should we be more clear that we don’t offer health insurance? My office has five partners who own and manage the business, including myself, and 20 employees who are not owners/managers. Seven years ago, we discontinued our group health insurance plan, as its cost was set to more than double upon renewal and other plans we investigated were comparably priced. We had never covered the full cost of our employees’ insurance, and through research determined that the out-of-pocket cost for our employees to obtain insurance on the insurance marketplace was going to be roughly identical to what they were already paying out of pocket under our group plan. We immediately increased our employees’ pay commensurate with what we had been contributing towards their insurance, in addition to their normal merit-based and cost of living increases. Last month, we hired a new employee. On their first day, they asked our office manager what they had to do in order to participate in our group health insurance plan. Of course, we no longer have such a plan and haven’t for some time. The new employee was offered their position in writing, and the letter sets forth their pay and benefits. Health insurance is not listed. Those who participated in the interview process are confident that nobody represented that we offer health insurance as a benefit, since we have not for many years now. We asked the new employee if they felt that they had been offered insurance at any point, and their response was that they “assumed” it was provided. It goes without saying that this is not a great way to begin a relationship. Should we begin to explicitly disclaim in our written summaries of benefits that we do not provide health insurance? Or is the fact that we provided a benefits list that did not include health insurance sufficient? Obviously, it was not sufficient in this one case, but the fact that this has not been an issue in the previous seven years despite many other hires being made in that period of time makes me question whether we need to take any additional action for the future. I don’t see why you wouldn’t include that explicitly on your benefits sheet now that you realize the potential for confusion! Erring on the side of clarity is always better, especially when the stakes are so high if someone doesn’t understand the situation. 5. Should I list my references on my resume? I have a question about references. I was taught to include two as standard on a resume. But do people leave them off and only supply when asked? Would this be seen as a red flag? Never include your references on your resume! It’s absolutely not expected (at least not in the U.S.; other countries have different norms). When an employer wants to contact your references, they will ask you for them. Plus, you want to know when your references are going to be contacted so that you can prepare them, and you don’t want them contacted for jobs you’ve decided you’re not interested in. You also want the benefit of knowing when you’re at that point in the process with an employer. Similarly, you don’t need to include “references available on request” on your resume either; it goes without saying that you’ll provide them when requested, and that line takes up space for no reason. You may also like:will painting nude self-portraits on social media cause problems at work?I think my coworker is lying about having a sick kidmy boss excessively Photoshops herself on our company's social media { 618 comments }
I’m about to inherit a bad employee who’s a jerk to our good employee by Alison Green on October 19, 2022 A reader writes: I’m an assistant manager at a medium retail store. Corporate gives us so many full-time/part-time slots we can fill and we have a number of part-time employees. Let’s call two of them Dwight and Lucy. Dwight has been in the store for a very long time, but unfortunately he is very limited in the scope of work that he’s able and willing to do. He wants to work in one part of the store, doing a handful of behind-the-scenes things that don’t necessarily need to get done. He will do anything to avoid interacting with customers, will stand next to a ringing phone and not pick it up, and generally doesn’t accomplish much during a shift. Dwight went on medical leave last year, was out for about eight months, and has recently returned. We hired Lucy while Dwight was gone and she’s been a dream. She’s willing to really go above and beyond and take extra duties off of my and my manager’s plate, and she’s wonderful with customers. She also has had some really wonderful input to improve the store. Since Dwight returned, he has been icy to Lucy, to say the least. He’s made remarks like he doesn’t understand why we had to hire anyone new (we had a slot open from another employee leaving and needed help!) and he’s taken the printed schedules from the wall in the break area and copied them and has been tallying up hours that all the part-time employees get, with a focus on Lucy because he doesn’t think the schedules are fair. Not only is there no guarantee that every part-time employee gets the same number of hours, but he gets more than every other employee and his and Lucy’s hours are very comparable. She may get a shift more than Dwight does in a pay period, but she also gets more accomplished and is willing to work in areas of the store that he has refused. My manager is set to retire in a few months and I’m in line to become the store manager. It isn’t set in stone but it’s more than reasonable to assume that, barring something truly bonkers occurring, I’ll be moving up. This leaves an assistant manager position open and I think Lucy is ideal. She has expressed interest. My main problem is this: I feel that my store manager is leaving me with a problem employee and is also refusing to deal with the fact that, when Lucy found out that Dwight is copying the schedule and keeping track of her hours, she expressed that she was very uncomfortable and asked the store manager if the schedules can be kept private. We do use a web-based schedule program so everyone has access to their personal schedule online. Posting a paper schedule is just for the convenience of the store manager to tell at a glance who’s working. I guess in summation, I disagree with the way my store manager is handling the situation about the schedules and I’m afraid of what Dwight’s reaction will be when things shift in a few months and I promote Lucy. What can I do now, and what can I do then? I’d really love your input. Yeah, your manager should be shutting down all this behavior from Dwight. Why isn’t she? At a minimum, Dwight needs to be told to stop tracking other people’s schedules, that other people’s hours aren’t up for discussion and he needs to stop raising it, and that part of his job includes being civil to all of his coworkers, including Lucy. Your manager should also stop posting the paper schedule publicly, at least for now, so that there’s a bigger barrier to Dwight’s behavior. Someone should also talk with Lucy to find out more about what’s been going on with Dwight. Is her discomfort with him tracking her hours simply because it’s obnoxious for him to be doing that (which it is) or is there something more going on? Does she have safety concerns about Dwight knowing when she’s working? If so, you need to take that very, very seriously. (I’m going to assume for the sake of this response that’s not the case, but if it is, you’d have a completely different situation on your hands. Hopefully it’s not, but ask her — don’t assume.) Beyond that, I’m curious about why Dwight is still employed there at all. In addition to being a jerk to Lucy and a pain in the ass for you and your manager, he’s not willing to do the entire job, ignores customers, and “generally doesn’t accomplish much during a shift.” Each of those last three on their own would be a reason to fire him. I’m guessing he’s been allowed to stay for so long because your manager is passive to the point of negligence (based on the totality of your letter), but he shouldn’t have been — or at least it should have been made clear to him that he’d need to make and sustain significant changes in order to stay. That’s what you should do yourself if become the store manager. Lay out clear and specific changes you need to see from Dwight and then hold him to those. If he doesn’t start working at the level you need (meaning doing the whole job, not just parts of it) or if he continues alienating other employees, at that point you really should let him go. (As for promoting Lucy, you have clear and compelling reasons for that choice. Explain them calmly and matter-of-factly. If Dwight explodes over that … well, see above. If he can’t behave professionally and non-disruptively, it doesn’t make sense to keep him on your team.) However. The fact that Dwight has been allowed to behave this way for so long and just came back from medical leave complicates things — because it potentially would allow him to argue that what’s really going on is that you’re discriminating against him for medical reasons (which is illegal if the situation falls under the Americans with Disabilities Act). After all, none of his behavior was a problem for years and now, right after he returns from a medical leave, he’s being fired? You’ll likely be able to show that’s not your reason, but your manager’s negligence has created enough risk that it would be smart to consult with an employment attorney (or HR, if you have it) to make sure you navigate it correctly. (This, by the way, is one of the many reasons managers need to deal with problems quickly and not drag their feet before doing it. It’s not the main reason, but if you wait there’s always a chance that something could happen that make the problem harder to address. For example, if the employee happens to ask for religious accommodations or announces she’s pregnant, then suddenly addressing the work problems that you hadn’t tackled previously risks looking a lot like discrimination or retaliation — to the employee, to their colleagues, and possibly to a jury — even when it’s not. Resolve to address issues as they come up and you’ll avoid that complication altogether.) Read an update to this letter. You may also like:where do you start when you inherit a bad employee?my staff has been held to a low bar; am I asking too much of them now?I own a game store with a terrible manager who I'm afraid to fire { 209 comments }
my chatty employee is annoying his quieter coworker by Alison Green on October 19, 2022 A reader writes: I supervise a group of part-time workers doing what amounts to unskilled menial labor. One of the workers, Kent, is an older gentleman who has been doing this job for decades. He is known to be very chatty. Everyone kind of groans internally when they see him coming because they know they’re in for a 15-minute diatribe on the weather and what kind of wardrobe it calls for. Another of the workers, Aaliyah, is a 30-something woman who is no shrinking violet. They work the same shift all week. Lately it hasn’t been very busy, so there is downtime and Kent seems to spend a lot of it following Aaliyah around, chatting at her. On the one hand, I’m sure this is very annoying, but on the other, she is a full grown woman who knows how to take care of herself and all of the work is getting done. Is this something I should intervene in? I don’t get the impression that his talk is inappropriate, just constant. Aaliyah is assertive so I don’t think she needs me stepping in for her, but maybe the work context changes things? I answer this question — and three others — over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and sometimes updating/expanding my answers to them). You can read it here. Other questions I’m answering there today include: How can I head off pregnancy talk at work? Can I discipline a candidate who didn’t show up to a job interview? Keeping a file of personal items at work You may also like:am I a party pooper, can I ask a company to speed up its hiring process, and moreare remote workers more likely to be laid off?our intern won't stop talking -- but I can't tell her I need to get back to work { 218 comments }
we had to share our “shadow sides” and “be more vulnerable” at a meeting by Alison Green on October 19, 2022 A reader writes: The small team of seven people I’m on (within a Fortune 500 company) recently had an offsite for team-building and strategic planning. A junior employee was assigned to plan the team-building part of our offsite. She’s repeatedly said she wants more trust within the team and for us to feel like a “family.” So she planned an activity for us to “be more vulnerable with each other.” We were given blank paper masks and asked to draw/paint our strengths and things we showed to the world on the front of the mask, and then on the back to draw/paint our “shadow sides” or weaknesses or things we don’t usually share in the workplace. Then we were all asked to share. I managed this by not talking about anything I didn’t want to share. But one employee cried while sharing and another was visibly uncomfortable. I’ve done this type of activity before, but in the context of group therapy under the supervision of a professional therapist! I have the credibility and capital to share some feedback with my management team about this activity. But I’m having a hard time figuring out how to articulate it beyond “inappropriate for the workplace.” I don’t want them to tell the junior employee that other people didn’t like her activity, but I do want the managers to vet activities going forward! Do you have any suggested language to talk about this? Eeessh… It’s so common for managers to let employees plan this kind of activity without any oversight! Often the first time other people hear details about the activity are when it’s being announced at the meeting and everyone is expected to participate on the spot. It’s pretty bizarre since if team-building and ice-breakers are valuable enough to spend meeting time on (and they can be! I’m not saying they never are), you’d think they’d be important enough for someone to review before setting a junior staffer loose with complete free rein to come up with anything they want. Especially one who has repeatedly said the team should feel more like a family. Anyway, here’s your list of reasons: * Highly personal activities about people’s most intimate selves are best done with the guidance of a therapist or at a spiritual retreat, not at work. For many people, good-faith participation in this activity would have meant delving into and revealing trauma, which no one should have to do at work … and which could be counter to some employees’ mental health needs. * It’s intrusive. Many people feel violated by demands that they lower their boundaries, and feel being expected to share deeply intimate things with colleagues or managers as highly invasive and overstepping. * Asking employees to “be more vulnerable” may not actually be safe for everyone there to do. It puts some people — particularly those with marginalized identities — in a position of actual vulnerability and risks opening them up to discrimination. * It’s true that high-functioning teams are ones where people feel psychologically safe and where they can be their authentic selves. However, that environment is something that’s created by good management over a sustained period of time. Simply demanding emotional intimacy from employees doesn’t achieve that; to that contrary, that will make many people feel less safe. * Activities like these always need to be opt-in; people should never feel obligated or pressured to participate. (And even opt-in activities can be inappropriate for work, and I’d argue this one is.) So yes, please do share feedback with your management team about what happened at this meeting, and ask that future activities be vetted ahead of time and guidelines provided to anyone charged with planning them. Your coworkers will thank you. Read an update to this letter. You may also like:we're supposed to do ice-breakers at every single meeting, even routine onesmy office is doing "circle work" with "offerings to the ancestors" and lots of talk about feelingswe have to write deeply personal poems and share them at a staff meeting { 357 comments }