is it weird to bring my toddler’s sippy cup to work, I don’t have time to answer a new hire’s questions, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. Is it weird to bring my toddler’s sippy cup to work with me?

Is it weird to bring my toddler’s sippy cup into the office? I drop her off at daycare in the morning, and she brings her milk in the car. I don’t want it to get gross in the hot sun all day, so I bring her cup inside to rinse it out. When I get into the office, I drop my stuff off at my desk, then go rinse the cup in the kitchen and stick it back in my purse. Quick, no big deal. However, every time a coworker sees me with the cup, they (understandably) ask a confused “Why do you have a sippy cup?” On a few occasions, I’ve been stopped in the hall or pulled into a meeting on my way back to put the cup away, so then I’m left holding it while discussing an important work topic. And it’s hard to be taken seriously while holding a Tommee Tippee.

This seems like such a non-issue, but now I’ve started to feel a bit weird about it. Like by bringing the cup into the office, my mom-life is bleeding over into my work-life and I’m announcing to everyone that I’m *A Mom* (even though all of my coworkers know that I’m a mom). I think my question is not whether or not it’s appropriate, but from a professional standpoint, is there any reason I should stop bringing the cup into the office, or should I do something differently?

I’d love to say that you don’t need to give it another thought. In reality … you might. It depends on your office and, to some extent, your industry. If you work in an office or a field with a lot of sexism and/or you have to struggle to be taken seriously, the sippy cup might not be doing you any favors. It shouldn’t be that way — the fact that you care for a child should have nothing to do with how you’re seen at work — but in reality sometimes it does.

If you wanted to play it absolutely safe, I’d be more discreet with the cup. Dump the milk out outside and then leave the cup in your car, or at least put it in your purse when you’re going to and from the kitchen. Is this silly? Yes. Are there still real biases against women of young children in some offices/fields? Yes. Are those potentially intensified when you are visibly performing a child-related task in your office during a work day? Also yes.

On the other hand, if you don’t struggle to be taken seriously, change nothing. Especially if you’re senior-level and widely respected, it can be a social good to let your own behavior be a counterweight to problematic norms.

2. I don’t have time to answer a new employee’s questions

I’m an employee on a team that, due to a series of unexpected departures, is currently very understaffed. Our office is in a constant state of panic with everyone rushing around to get projects done by deadline. Our manager, Diane, oversees several teams across multiple offices and is always in meetings, so she doesn’t have much time to help us and is very hard to reach. But she and other higher-ups have been desperate to get more people onto our team ASAP, and so a few months ago they hired a brand new graduate, Todd, with no experience in our field other than summer internships. (The rest of us have been on the job a decade-plus.)

Diane initially assigned one of our team members, Vincent, to train Todd and answer his questions. However, Vincent ended up leaving a few weeks later due to an unexpected life event. Diane has not yet assigned someone else to train Todd, and now that we are scrambling to cover Vincent’s projects, the rest of us REALLY do not have the bandwidth to take on training duties. But I happen to sit across from Todd, so he is now directing all of his questions to me. And so now, in addition to the huge amount of my own work, I am dealing with a steady stream of questions from Todd. These are not procedural or factual questions that I can just ask him to look up — they tend to be specific to whatever project he is working on, such as “Do you know why the numbers in this column don’t add up?” or “Does this sentence I wrote make sense?” I often have to go over to his computer and examine his work in order to give a confident answer, and it starts to take up a decent amount of time.

I tried to help as much as I could in the beginning, because I can tell that Todd is a hard worker who is trying hard to learn. I also don’t want him to be fired, because we do need the help! But the questions are not abating as time goes on, and I feel like they are starting to add an unsustainable amount of stress to my workload, particularly when we are in crunch time on deadlines.

Is this something I should address with Diane — and if so, what would be the best way to do that? Or is it Todd I should be talking to?

Talk to Diane. Estimate how much time you’re spending per week helping Todd and the impact it’s having on your workload, and tell Diane that you’re not able to be Todd’s main trainer unless other projects are taken off your plate to give you time for it.

Since Diane is hard to reach, you could put this in an email.

If her answer is that there’s no on else to help and you’ll have to make do, let her know that you can either help Todd or do XYZ in the coming weeks, and ask her which to prioritize. If she sticks to “just get it all done,” then say, “I’ll do what I can, but if we’re not moving any deadlines I’m going to need to prioritize those, which means I won’t have time to give Todd as much help as he’s asking for.” (In other words, treat this like you should any unrealistic workload problem.) Then explain the situation to Todd and suggest he speak with Diane himself about getting what he needs.

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I’ve been overworked for months and my manager won’t help

3. Is wet hair unprofessional?

I saw a discussion today about whether it’s unprofessional to have wet hair at work, with the consensus being that it is and reflects badly on employees. But some were arguing that this is racist and/or sexist because curly and long hair takes longer to dry and generally that hair will belong to women and/or people of color. (There was also a discussion about whether it’s reasonable to provide gym and showering facilities for use before work or over lunch but then expect people to dry their hair before coming back to work.) What are your thoughts?

It depends on what your particular hair looks like when it’s wet. For example, I have long, straight hair that when wet requires three hours to stop looking like I just got out of the pool. But not every hair type does that (especially not curly hair). If you don’t look like a drowned rat when your hair is wet, it’s typically going to be fine. If it’s a borderline case, it’ll help to put it up or tie it back.

I can’t see how it’s unreasonable to provide gym and shower facilities but still expect people to return to work looking professional. Yes, for some people that will mean blowing their hair dry or tying it back, but for many people it won’t. (And for many of the people who need to, the convenience of having those facilities on-site makes it worth it.)

4. My coworker doesn’t want our boss to know about his mistakes

I am on a small team in a medium-sized, fast-growing company. There have been discussions around promoting me into a leadership role and reorganizing our team to have one or more junior colleagues report to me directly. This is great and I am excited for the opportunity if or when it happens.

Currently my role is similar to quality review over the work that the others on the team produce. The issues I identify are not generally performance-related; they are typically mistakes made due to limitations in the process and/or tools. Notification to the individual and manager, when appropriate, is factual and not personal (example: “found issue X, recommend Y to resolve”). This will continue in the new team structure.

My.question involves a concerning behavior of one person on the team who will likely report to me in the future. He gets defensive if our current manager is copied or notified for any negative issue. Most issues are dealt with individually, but some require guidance from our manager. When this happens, my colleague gets upset and says “(manager) doesn’t need to know.” This pushback makes me wary of trusting them on my team if the restructure happens as planned. And regardless of any restructure, I want to shut this behavior down.

I have already tried explaining to him that these reports are not personal and do not reflect on his performance, but I don’t think the message is being received.

The next time he says that your manager doesn’t need to know about something, reply with, “Jane expects me to loop her in on this type of thing because of X.” If it’s true you could add, “If you’re worried about it reflecting on you, I can tell you this isn’t a big deal — everyone on the team has corrections like this, it’s routine and expected, and you don’t have more than anyone else.” (Again, only say that if that’s true.)

If you do become his manager, it’ll be useful to know that he approaches mistakes this way. It means you may have to do more digging about what’s really going on in his area, won’t necessarily be able to take his word for things, and can’t assume he’ll alert you if something goes wrong. That’s super useful to start off knowing, rather than finding it out down the road. It could also be something you address with him once you’re his boss, possibly framed as, “I know you worried in the past about Jane hearing about X or Y. I want to talk to you about how I approach mistakes and how I’d like you to think of them and communicate about them.”

5. People are annoyed with my backlog, but I have a medical accommodation

I’ve been working at a fully remote job for six months. I’m an individual contributor who gets assigned X number of a certain type of project every month. While clients do need these delivered promptly, this isn’t a vital business function, nor does it save lives. About three months ago, a chronic pain condition I have started getting worse. About three weeks ago, when it became clear that I was really behind with no improvement in sight, I told my boss Tony. I was surprised at how quickly and easily my company agreed to an ADA accommodation of a reduced workload for several months while I adjust treatments with my doctor. It really made me feel positively about my company.

Well, we’re now into the first month of my reduced workload, but I’m still digging out from last month. I’ve been upfront with Tony about how far I’m behind and gave him a realistic timeline for getting it done. He didn’t ask any follow-up questions. My grandboss Laila told me to get my work done as soon as I could, but also seemed understanding that I’m working at a much reduced pace.

When I send a project out to the client, another department at my company is notified. There have been a few annoyed emails from this department, including one with many manager cced. They have every right to be testy — these clients paid for services and they should get them on time. But there’s only so much I can do right now. I’m getting a bit frustrated that Tony or Laila didn’t say anything to this department. I understand they can’t talk about my accommodation, but I would have thought they’d let them know that things will be coming out late and they’re aware of the situation. Am I being too extra if I ask Tony to say something? I really don’t want my reputation tanked with this department and I don’t want to wreck client relationships.

No, ask Tony to say something! Ideally he’d explain to the other department that there are extenuating circumstances slowing things down and X type of work will be delayed for roughly Y months. What to say to clients is trickier and depends on details I don’t have, but Tony should be working with you on messaging about that too.

Since that’s not happening, explain to Tony that you’ve noticed people seem annoyed and you think it would help to offer context, and ask him to help you let people know what’s going on so it’s clear to them that he’s in the loop and you’re not just dropping the ball.

weekend open thread – September 7-8, 2024

This comment section is open for any non-work-related discussion you’d like to have with other readers, by popular demand.

Here are the rules for the weekend posts.

Book recommendation of the week: Really Good, Actually, by Monica Heisey. Reeling from the break-up of her marriage, a 20something woman tries to figure out dating after divorce, her ex, and how much you can really ask of a group chat. The main character isn’t very likable, but the writing is extremely funny.

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open thread – September 6, 2024

It’s the Friday open thread!

The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on any work-related questions that you want to talk about (that includes school). If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet*, but this is a chance to take your questions to other readers.

* If you submitted a question to me recently, please do not repost it here, as it may be in my queue to answer.

a dog-sitting job gone bad, delayed approval for time off, and more

It’s four answers to four questions. Here we go…

1. My neighbor, her nephew, my kid, and her dogs

My question has to do with kid work. I recently found myself in an uncomfortable situation with my middle-schooler, Falcon, and I’m wondering if I handled it badly. My neighbor, Jane, asked Falcon to check on her dogs and take them for a walk while she attended an event. She offered $15/hour, and since Falcon loves dogs, he agreed. The request was for him to spend two to three hours walking and playing with the dogs, starting between 5 and 6 pm.

On the afternoon of the event, Jane texted, asking if Falcon could instead stay at her house until she returned around 11 pm. She also mentioned that her adult nephew, Hank, would be at the house with Falcon. This change was … unexpected. We only saw the text after returning home from Falcon’s soccer game, by which time Jane had already left for the event. Neither of us had ever met Hank before, and all we knew about him was that he had learning disabilities.

Falcon was uncomfortable with the idea of spending several hours in a house with an adult stranger. But, since Jane had already left, we felt obligated to fulfill her request. I accompanied Falcon to the house at 6 pm. We walked the dogs, played with them in the yard, and greeted Hank, who was sitting in the dark and ignored us. Falcon was afraid of him. We played outside with the dogs for a couple of hours until it became too dark and mosquito-y to reasonably remain outdoors. We then brought the dogs inside and waited together in the front room with them until Jane returned, as neither of us was comfortable leaving Falcon alone with Hank.

When Jane got home, she noticed dog poop in the kitchen, which we hadn’t seen because Falcon was too scared to go in there (it was attached to the room where Hank was hanging out in the dark). It appeared that Hank and/or the dogs had stepped in the poop and gotten it all over the place. Our best guess is that the pooping happened before we arrived, as we were with the dogs fairly consistently from 6 pm until Jane’s return. Jane handed Falcon $75 as payment, but I texted her the next morning, offering to return the money since we hadn’t prevented the dogs from soiling the house. Jane asked us to return $50, which we did.

I feel terrible about the whole situation. I don’t think Jane should have put my son in the position of being alone for hours with a man he didn’t know. Falcon feels guilty for not doing a better job with the dogs. I’m wondering how could I have handled this better. Beyond letting the dogs out earlier, of course. I feel like I’ve both traumatized my child and let down my neighbor.

This is 100% on Jane. Falcon agreed to a specific job: playing with the dogs for a couple of hours, on his own, ending no later than 9 pm. Jane unilaterally changed that to “stay at my house for six hours with an adult man you don’t know.” Even if Hank had been friendlier/less intimidating, this wasn’t an okay thing to ask of a middle-schooler, particularly without checking to see if he’d be comfortable with it and possibly talking with you as well. (Frankly, even if Falcon were comfortable, I don’t think it would have been an appropriate ask. If Hank isn’t capable of taking care of the dog himself, and is someone who might smear dog poop all over the house without cleaning it up, an unprepared middle-schooler isn’t the right person to be alone with him.)

If we could go back in time, ideally you would have coached Falcon to tell Jane that he couldn’t stay later than the time he agreed to (or even told her that yourself). You say you felt obligated to fulfill Jane’s request, but you weren’t obligated; the request wasn’t the one Falcon had agreed to. I don’t think you needed to offer to return the money although I can understand the impulse, given the poop situation. But Jane should have refused that offer and should have apologized for how things unfolded.

2. I submitted a time off request 3 months ago … and am still waiting

I work at a small company, about 50 employees. Last year, the owner turned over day-to-day operations to a VP who has been with the company for the past 10 years. I report to the VP and am one of four people with the company in a managerial position.

Over three months ago, I submitted a leave request for the week of Christmas. I have been in this industry for over 20 years and that week is historically the slowest week of the year. I usually do not take off that week so that my staff is able to travel to see family (my family is small and local). Last year, my brother-in-law died on Christmas and my husband does not want to be home due to the bad memories from last year. Because it is Christmas, I submitted my request early to make sure it was timely and before any other requests were submitted.

The VP has not made a decision on my leave request and advised me he is still “thinking about it.” I’m very frustrated. I feel disrespected and unappreciated. I only earn two weeks of leave per year, which isn’t much and often causes issues as my husband has considerably more leave and we are unable to travel due to my lack of leave. It is also use or lose, so if I do not use my time by the end of the year, I will lose it. I feel like my vacation time is being held hostage. Never mind that I have to pay for the AirBNB and flight and my husband has to request leave as well for that week. Everything is in limbo over this and the costs are rising each day. The difference in the cost of the flights between early June and September is nearly $1000. I’m so angry and disappointed.

I’m willing to quit over this. My issue is that I don’t think the owner is aware of the issues with the VP, and I’m not sure how to bring it up as he has stated multiple times that he has complete faith in the VP and trusts him 100%. I do not think it is appropriate to withhold PTO approval (or denial) for over three months, all while the cost of my vacation plans are now increasing and I will not be able to use the leave before the end of the year if this vacation request is not approved. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated in how to address with both the owner and VP.

Talk to the VP first! Say what you’ve said here — the costs are rising with each day that you wait, the time off is use-or-or-lose it, and you need to be able to plan. Ask what he needs to give you a definite answer by next week.

If he doesn’t do that (or if he denies the request), talk to the owner. “Having complete faith in” the VP and “trusting him 100%” doesn’t generally mean “I believe he will never miss anything / could never benefit from help changing his perspective.” And you’re a high-level employee who’s been there for a decade; the owner probably would want to know that you’re on the verge of quitting over something so easily solvable.

All that said … two weeks of vacation time is very stingy for a management level position, and even more so after 10 years. I’d also find it grating to be in a high-level management role but still be required to get approval for a meager amount of time off during a slow period. No one should need to wait this long to have PTO approved, but typically PTO approval for managers at your level is much closer to a rubber-stamp; making you wait months for no discernible reason is ridiculous. Is this the only thing where your company is stingy and overly rigid? I’d be inclined to reassess how well this place treats you (in money, in benefits, and in respect) and compare it to other options that might be out there.

3. What do I do when my company firewall blocks a website?

On occasion I will open a safe-for-work link but it will be blocked for various reasons. Sometimes it’s because it’s a “advocacy website” (which, my job is in advocacy, so I don’t totally get) but sometimes it’s for pornography. This is absolutely mortifying! (And I must stress, there’s no reason to believe these links are actually NSFW!) What should I do when this happens? I usually do nothing, but I am very embarrassed at the idea of our IT team getting an alert that I tried to access porn at work. Do I need to email them about it and clear the air?

Nah. They’re probably well aware that the software misfires, and you’re undoubtedly not the only person it’s happening to. However, it would be fine to message them, “FYI, OatmealAlliance.com is being blocked as ‘pornography,’ which it obviously isn’t.” That way you’re informing them about a problem (their blocking tool needs refinement) and if it happens to bring you peace of mind in the process, so much the better.

If these are sites you need to do your job, you should add, “Can you please unblock it? I need it for a project I’m working on” (or similar).

4. Greeting people you’re not sure you’ve met before or not

Low stakes question, but do you have a favorite way to acknowledge people who you’re introduced to and aren’t sure if you’ve met before? Or you know you have, but they don’t remember and you don’t want to put them on the spot?

I’m usually in the latter category, but may be moving into the former. The default seems to be “nice to see you,” to cover all bases, but honestly I hate it. Curious if you have anything better?

“Nice to see you” is a classic among politicians and others who do lots of glad-handing for a reason: it covers you in case you’re forgetting that you’ve met the person previously. You could go with “hello, how are you?” but there aren’t many other options for this specific context.

does posting sob stories on LinkedIn hurt your job search?

A reader writes:

I work in a field that has been heavily affected by layoffs in the past year. I have been lucky and managed to maintain work, but many talented people I know have not been so lucky.

My question is about whether posting depressing, sad posts on social media, especially LinkedIn, affects your hiring potential.

I have seen many of my former coworkers posting status updates that include how they been out of work for many months, they are burning through their savings, they applied to hundreds of positions only to be rejected by AI recruitment tools or ghosted by human hiring teams, and, in some cases, that they are are about to be homeless.

While I will not argue that the current job market is incredibly difficult, I worry that they are hurting themselves with potential employers who might unfairly see them as “difficult.”

I would like to know your take on this and what you would recommend on posting status updates like this on LinkedIn.

Yes, they are likely to be hurting their chances with prospective employers.

Employers tend to want to feel they’re hiring someone who’s in-demand — or at least someone who 100 other companies haven’t looked at and said, “We’ll pass.”

To be clear, this is not aligned with the realities of job-seeking and hiring. It’s not uncommon for talented people to struggle to find jobs, especially in a tight market, and being unemployed or having a long job search isn’t a sign that someone shouldn’t be hired.

But it’s not helpful to raise those questions in a hiring manager’s mind.

Moreover, hiring managers — being humans — tend to respond better to optimism than to cynicism, pessimism, or bitterness. That doesn’t mean that cynicism, pessimism, or bitterness are never warranted — but when you want people to hire you, making that your branding on a professional networking site is a bad move.

my anxious employee wants daily reassurance

A reader writes:

I manage a small team, including one employee who joined us somewhat recently.

This is her first time doing the kind of work that we do, and training from afar isn’t ideal (we work remotely), but she’s learning and progressing well. I give her positive feedback on her work, along with corrections and edits when needed, and I try to be as reassuring as possible about her progress, but nearly every day she calls me to apologize for not knowing something she hasn’t been taught yet, or feeling as if she’s not working fast enough, or not progressing as she thinks she should be. Each time, I tell her that I’m not concerned with her pace and that I haven’t found any fault with the work she’s doing while she learns and that she really does not need to apologize for still learning her very new job, but that only seems to help her for a little while, because she brings it all up again the next day.

I know that this new job anxiety is probably made worse by the fact we aren’t in the same office, but how can I make her see that the daily apology calls aren’t necessary?

I answer this question over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and sometimes updating/expanding my answers to them). You can read it here.

let’s discuss workplace contests gone awry

Workplace contests sometimes go off the rails in ways no ever intended. (Luckily for us!)

Some examples that have been shared here in the past:

•. “We had a hot sauce eating contest at work years ago that ended with the crowd demanding that the contestants stop before they got hurt (and passing the hat to come up with a second prize) and then one contestant threw up in the bushes on the way to his bus and the other was up all night and didn’t come in to work the next day.”

•. “Our work has a terrible ‘who can walk the most steps’ contest. It’s framed as a fitness thing, but it’s pretty ableist and frankly comes off not great when all of us are working from our homes, are pressured to work more hours, and a lot of folks (particularly at more junior levels) find it hard to find the time for regular exercise. So, sorry not sorry, I attached my activity tracker to my siberian husky’s collar and am KILLING it. I’ve made my views known and no one listened, so if the doggo wins the prize will go straight to the furloughed employees assistance fund.”

•. “My dad’s workplace hosts an annual chili cookoff and everyone would bring in a crockpot of their chili, put it in the kitchen, and then judging and mass chili consumption would happen at lunch. One year, one of his coworkers brought in an empty crockpot in the morning, took a bowl of chili from every other crockpot and dumped it in his crockpot while people were working, stirred it up and called it his own chili. He ended up WINNING that year for his ‘depth of flavor,’ and confessed after he got asked for the recipe and had no answer. Everyone wanted to riot!”

Let’s talk more about workplace contests gone terribly wrong. Please share your stories in the comment section.

doctor’s office constantly leaves me on hold, coworker’s bare-bones emails, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. My doctor’s office constantly leaves me on hold — how do I deal with this at work?

Do you have any advice on how to handle important personal phone calls with LONG hold times when you’re working in a client-facing position?

My doctor’s office has developed a fun new habit of either leaving me on hold for extremely long times if I call the central scheduling line or never picking up (and then never returning my voicemails) if I try to call the specific reception desk of my specific office, even when I’m returning a call from that same reception desk.

I am the sole receptionist in a busy office, and my doctor’s office is only open during my own work hours. There’s no one else at home who can make these calls on my behalf. It’s really not feasible for me to be sitting on hold for ages while clients are trying to talk to me – there’ve been times I’ve had to lose my place in line to hang up and focus on a client, and times when I’ve been hung up on because a scheduler finally picked up my call and I couldn’t get my personal phone to my ear fast enough – but obviously my doctor’s office doesn’t care. It feels ridiculous stepping into a private office to sit around listening to hold music while there’s work to be done (not least because I might be asked to use some of my limited sick or vacation time to make up for the lost work time), but if this is going to keep happening, I’m truly at a loss for what else to do.

Any advice for managing the actual calls AND the stress of trying to deal with Important Health Stuff while at work would be deeply, deeply appreciated. (It’s not feasible for me to switch healthcare providers for a variety of reasons right now.)

Oh, this sucks! Ultimately your only option might be to save the calls for lunch time, but that’s not always easy to do.

If you did use the conference room plan, is there any work you could take in with you so you wouldn’t be expected to use PTO for that time? And is there someone who could cover for you at reception while you did? If the calls are daily that’s probably not realistic, but if they’re only occasional, you might be able to simply explain the situation and ask for help. Otherwise, I think you’re probably stuck with confining them to lunch.

2. My rude coworker sends me the most bare-bones emails possible

I have a coworker who is known within the organization to be prickly. I have worked here for seven years and dealt with her for the first six of these years with little issue (besides hearing about how difficult she is from others).

As part of my job I have to ask her to create invoices on occasion. I make these requests via email, always with a friendly “Hi Julie” and provide the information such as client details, budget line, cost, and details of what I need to be created. I thank her and invite her to come back to me if she has any questions.

About a year ago I had to ask her to regenerate an invoice she provided me (due to my manager changing the way she wanted it worded). I explained why I needed it altered and apologized that we were causing her to re-do something we had asked for. (My manager is a GM and it’s very rare for him to cause inconvenience, but on this occasion we did.) Ever since, I’ve noticed Julie has dropped any “niceties” and begun interacting with me with a curt tone.

The last three times I’ve asked for an invoice, I’ve had to do a follow-up “just checking you got my request” style email after no reply a week later. Then I received blank emails with no salutations or acknowledgement — she is simply replying to my emails with what I’ve requested (invoice) attached. I ignored it the first two times, but this last occasion I am finding it rude and inappropriate.

Compounding the lack of communication is that this last time is I needed to go back to her because a small detail was missed. I politely replied with, “Hi Julie, thanks for sending me the invoice, unfortunately this one has tax included. I believe this will need to be amended before I send it out. I’ve attached the details again in case there’s something I’ve got wrong — let me know :)” Again, no reply or answer or acknowledgement, just a reply email with the amended invoice attached.

Saying hi/thanks and acknowledging me doesn’t feel too much to ask for. A simple “Hi Jane, invoice attached, regards” would suffice, even if she does choose to never respond to my questions. I want to raise this with her and give her the chance to keep her behavior in check so I drafted this: “Hi Julie, thank you for the amended invoice. Should I be reading into the fact that all the emails I receive from you don’t greet me and lack any content or answers to any questions I ask? Regards, Jane”

I thought by writing it this way I am giving her the chance to either (1) reassure me she has no issue (whether she does or doesn’t, it will prompt her to do better; sometimes with a bully you knock the wind out of their sails by talking about their passive-aggressive behavior up-front) or (2) ignore it because she does want to send a message. If she ignores it, I would like to elevate it to my manager. I don’t care if it is through gritted teeth, I’d like some courtesy of basic salutation (hi and regards) going forward. Are my expectations too high? How would you approach this?

Your expectations aren’t unreasonable, but you should let it go. Some people do send very bare-bones emails with no text and only an attachment. It’s not a very polished way to communicate, but it’s a thing people do and it’s not egregious enough in a coworker that you’d have grounds to address it. In Julie’s case, it’s notable that she didn’t start doing this until after you committed the terrible offense of asking for a minor modification that it’s her job to make, so clearly she’s expressing some Feelings by emailing the way she does … but it’s not a big enough thing to act on.

That said, if she’s not responding to requests at all until you follow up, that part is something you could bring to your manager — although even that depends on how much of a problem it poses to your work.

Related:
do I care too much about email style?

3. My former coworker wants to stay in touch, but I don’t

I was recently laid off from a job after a year, rather unexpectedly. I recognize things I could have done differently, but the job description changed after I was hired and my skills were no longer a good fit. I left a good job to take this one, and I feel a lot of anger towards the company that I am working through (in therapy).

My question is about a former coworker who wants to stay in touch. We didn’t work together closely while I was there, and when we did, we didn’t particularly get along (she snapped at me more than once). Mostly I kept a cool but friendly distance from her. During my last week, she cornered me at lunch and asked a bunch of intrusive questions about why I was being fired, if I was going to move, if I planned on having kids because that would make the job search harder, etc. It was extremely unpleasant and I cried in front of her, which I really didn’t want to do. I tried to be nice and just thank her for her well wishes, assuming it was a misguided attempt at kindness.

Since I left, she has sent multiple texts checking in and asking me how job hunting is going, and sending “helpful” advice like to look at Indeed for job listings. I think she is still just trying to be kind, but I don’t want to talk to her! Even if our relationship hadn’t been difficult, I don’t want to talk to anyone from my old company, given how angry I still am. To make it worse, I don’t have any new job prospects on the horizon and I am not doing great! So far I have just ignored the messages, but that doesn’t feel like a very good response. Do you have any suggestions on what I should do and/or say?

The generous interpretation is that she feels bad for making you cry (she should! those questions were rude and unkind) and she’s trying to smooth it over / be helpful now. The less generous interpretation is that she’s a busybody, which is why she cornered you with those questions and why she’s trying to continue to stay in touch now.

Either way, you should feel free to keep ignoring her! She’ll get the message or give up eventually. Truly, it’s fine to do this with people you were never close with and have no interest in staying in touch with. If ignoring feels too rude, then answer only sporadically (maybe every third email), let some days pass before you respond, and keep your answers bland and non-informative. But seriously, it’s fine to just ignore them.

Unrelated: you’re using fired and laid off interchangeably and they have two different meanings. Fired is if you were let go because of something about your performance or conduct. Laid off is if you were let go because your employer eliminated your position. If you were laid off, make sure you’re not telling people you were fired!

4. Clarifying time zones when scheduling interviews

I’ve noticed that many recruiters frequently use “standard time” when scheduling interviews via email, even during periods when daylight saving time is in effect. For example, when setting up a phone interview in California during daylight saving time, they’ll often confirm the time as “1:30 pm PST” instead of “1:30 pm PDT.” It seems that some people either automatically default to “S” for “standard” or may not be aware of the distinction between standard time and daylight time.

Since I’m almost certain they mean 1:30 pm local time in California, I usually choose not to correct this detail to avoid coming off as overly particular. Alternatively, I might subtly confirm by responding with something like, “Great, I look forward to our interview at 1:30 pm PDT!”

Do you think it’s better to just assume they mean daylight time when/where daylight time is in effect, subtly clarify the time zone, or do something else?

It is absolutely the case that many people default to S when abbreviating time zones (to say nothing of how many of us can’t remember whether we’re currently in daylight savings or not). So yes, assume they are citing their geographical zone and ignore the Standard/Daylight piece of it. People are definitely not indicating that they use their own special time zone that’s an hour off from how everyone else in their region tells time during this part of the year. (Two exceptions: Hawaii and Arizona, with the exception of the Navajo Nation, don’t use daylight saving time at all.)

I’m a fan of leaving off the middle letter altogether and just writing “1:30 PT” (or whatever).

5. Accepted job offer but there’s no start date

I accepted a six-month temporary job with a staffing agency. However, they are still waiting for their client to give a start date. I have contacted the staffing agency, but they have not received a response yet. Should I continue looking? This would have been the perfect opportunity because it is work from home.

Yes, continue looking until there’s a start date. Right now it sounds like there’s too much chance that the job won’t come to fruition, and the staffing agency doesn’t sound like they’re offering any information to prove otherwise (like “we expect you to start the last week of the month, but the VP is on vacation until Monday so we can’t confirm for sure until then” — although even in that situation, I’d probably advise you to keep looking until it’s fully settled). I’m sorry!

update: my coworkers are engaged but one of them is cheating … with my boss

Remember the letter-writer whose coworkers are engaged but one of them is cheating with the writer’s boss? Here’s the update.

Thank you so much for responding to my question. I couldn’t really respond to any of the comments on your post, but I read them and really had a good think about everything you said and what the commenters were saying as well. I’m here to offer an update in case you or any of your readers may be interested. Spoiler alert: it’s explosive!

The clarification: HR was kind of a joke in my former company, they didn’t do anything but perpetuate gossip. No such thing as anonymous complaints. Peter and Kate were different departments, think sales and accounting.

The good news: A few days after I submitted the letter to you, I ended up submitting my resignation. I start my new job next month. So far, my coworkers seem nice (we’ve had one casual hang/mixer organized by the new workplace — everyone bought food. My brownies were a hit!) My new company had been trying to poach me for a while, and I just decided to take the plunge. I truly can’t tell you how happy I am to be away from that mess. I’ve just been relaxing at home now. My former coworkers keep me updated about everything that’s happening and safe to say, I left at the right time. Bullets dodged.

Peter was blindsided by my resignation, and asked me why I was leaving and if there was anything they could do to keep me but I refused. I was willing to serve my notice period, but Peter said it wasn’t necessary and I could leave immediately since I clearly thought I was better than them. It was in that moment it became clear to me that I’d been telling myself Peter is a good boss, but he clearly isn’t. Even your advice touched on this briefly. So I cleared my stuff out by the end of the day, went home, and cuddled with my dogs.

Since then, Peter’s boss contacted me, asking me to at least serve my notice period. I only responded by sharing Peter’s last email to me, where he threatened to have me escorted off company property if I wasn’t gone by the end of the day. The grandboss proceeded to call me to convince me to come back. In a rare moment of wanting to be confrontational, I told him I wouldn’t feel comfortable coming back because of many reasons, not just Peter’s rudeness. I told him all about Peter and Kate. I told him my former company simply didn’t have adequate safeguards, so even if I wanted to report this nonsense I couldn’t without being afraid of retaliation. My former grandboss clearly wasn’t ready for my verbal diarrhea. Said he would call me back, but it has been blessed silence since.

On to the actual update: aka what is going on with Peter, Joe, and Kate.

The day after I left, Peter and Kate left for another business trip. However, when Kate returned home she realised their house was empty. Completely bare.

It would seem Joe had been aware of the affair for a while, and instead of confronting Kate or Peter he’d been lining his ducks in row so he could just up and disappear. He resigned by email, no mention of a notice period. No one knows where he is, or what he is doing. Kate apparently tried to file a missing persons, but Joe had already informed the police he wasn’t a missing person. At the same time as Kate came home and realized Joe was gone, his entire family also blocked all forms of communication with her. She tried to show up at Joe’s parents house, only for his parents to claim they don’t know her, they never knew her, and if she didn’t get off their property they’d call the police.

I know all this from my coworkers, who know all this from Kate because she can’t stop talking about it at work. She “doesn’t know why” Joe would have done this.

Few days after that: she also dumped Peter in a rather public, unhinged way, saying that he hypnotized her (???) and her life was falling apart because of him. But apparently it didn’t stick for long because the next day they were having loud and violent sex in Peter’s office during lunch hours.

There are rumors circulating that both Peter and Kate are about to be fired. Not sure why they haven’t been fired already. Some of my former coworkers have asked me if I could keep an eye out for jobs for them in my new company.

Thanks for your advice and compassion! Love and blessings to you.

the cats of AAM

In last week’s speed round, a surprising number of questions requested updated info on the cats — in particular, an update to the personality profiles and photos from last year. So here we go.

Olive
11 years old, the grande dame of the house. She is very beautiful and requires that you treat her like a queen. She will hiss at you for absolutely nothing and then rub against your hand a few seconds later. She loves my husband and has an unexpected affection for Fig.


Eve
9 years old. May not be a cat; seems more like some strange little creature you might find in a forest or visiting from another planet. Very scampy, full of energy, lives life by rules no one but she understands. Has monkey-like climbing abilities, is a skilled parkour enthusiast, and likes to chase and be chased. Believes deeply that might makes right.


Sophie
6 years old. Very smart, loves affection, prefers to be cuddled up against someone at all times. Likes to stare way too intensely at people and animals she doesn’t know. Will politely tap you when your attention is required. Extremely chonky. Was a teenage mother to Wallace (before and after photos!) and kept the two of them alive on the streets until a kind person rescued them.


Wallace
6 years old. An affectionate goofball, but also a distinguished gentleman. Loves to fetch. The friendliest of the crew to human visitors, and functions as the welcome wagon for any new cats and helps them feel at ease. Extremely popular with all the other cats; would definitely be voted Homecoming King. Sophie nursed him until he was almost full-grown, a la Robin Arryn.


Laurie
Believed to be 6-ish. Shy with humans but loves other cats. However much love you’re picturing, it’s more. Took me months to gain his trust and whenever I thought I finally had, he would randomly act like he’d never seen me before. Now loves to flop over and kick with joy. Named after the neighbor boy from Little Women. Bonded to Wallace.


Stella
Believed to be 3-ish. A miracle cat who survived FIP (which until recently was always fatal). It left her with some permanent neurological damage so she’s a little stumbly but she does not seem to notice or care. Likes to cuddle with Laurie, but worships Wallace and lights up when she sees him. Spends significant time plotting how to get baths from them both. When excited, quacks like a duck.


Fig
Believed to be 2-ish. Hoots like an owl when she plays. Picture a tiny kitten crossed with a baby panda crossed with a newborn meerkat, then imagine the cutest moments you’ve ever seen from all cats you’ve ever known, and then also picture a marshmallow. Now you’re imagining Fig. Adorable, sweet, cuddly, mildly devious, ridiculous, elfin.

Griffin
Believed to be 2-ish. After being billed as a recluse, has decided he’s a lap cat and wants to curl up on me all the time. When he learned this about himself, he seemed conflicted: shocked that it was happening but simultaneously delighted. Has a very expressive face, and often one side of his upper lip turns up like Elvis. Bonded to Grendel (they rampage around the house together and go on adventures) but likes everyone, especially Wallace.


Grendel

Believed to be 2-ish. Due to respiratory damage, makes noises like a tiny monster but has learned to use them to communicate; uses them as a greeting and to say “I find this very interesting.” Wants to curl up with all other cats but realizes he might not be allowed, so gently sneaks up behind them and sleeps with his head or one paw on them. Is incredibly sweet, the opposite of his monstrous namesake. Bonded to Griffin but likes everyone, especially Stella.

All are rescues. Olive, Eve, Laurie, Stella, and Fig were foster fails. You probably need to rescue some cats yourself…