Ask a Manager speed round by Alison Green on August 28, 2024 It’s the annual Ask a Manager speed round! Until 3:30 pm ET today, I’ll be answering questions live. How to ask questions: Submit a question using the form here. (Don’t leave your question in the comment section; I won’t see it there.) If you submitted a question yesterday, there’s no need to submit it again; I’ve got it in my queue. How to read answers live: Refresh the page to see new questions/answers. I’ll post new answers at the top as I go so you don’t have to scroll down to see the latest. Other info: It’s a speed round so these are going to be quick answers. We’ll see how many I can get through. That’s it for today! There were a ton of questions I didn’t get to (I received 599 total and answered 72 here) so please feel free to submit them to me for regular answers if you’d like to: https://www.askamanager.org/ask-a-question I may save some unused questions for future “short answer” posts (or maybe I’ll do a second speed round with the leftovers next month). 72. Passerby witness to employee conduct I once witnessed two employees in a retail environment having a very contentious conversation, I was browsing and checking out, they were not in a private space. It sounded like a manager berating her employee well past the point of helpfulness. They were the only two employees around to keep things covered. I did not say anything at the time, was that the right action? It’s hard to know without more details, but if you’d had any interaction with the employee who was being berated, one option was to go over to them and say to the target, “I just wanted to thank you for your help earlier. I really appreciated your assistance with X” (or something else similarly positive). It won’t change the fact that they work for a jerk, but it might make their day a little less crappy (and it might take the wind out of the manager’s sails too, who knows). On the other hand, I can also imagine situations egregious enough where it would be reasonable to say, “No one deserves to be spoken to that way, and overhearing this makes me never want to come back here.” 71. Touchy boss My boss always sits way too close to me when he’s trying to explain something or is so close next to me I can feel his breath. He touches the screen of my laptop and brushes against me. I need some space! I’ve asked him to give me a bit of space but it hasn’t worked. Help! I wish I knew what he has said when you’ve asked him to give you space since that would help me refine the advice. But absent that, I’d just say, “Sorry, I have a big personal space bubble, can I move you over a little?” Or just physically move yourself away from him. 70. The clipper caper I have a coworker who clips their fingernails every single day at their desk. We have a semi-open office plan and it really squicks me out to hear the fingernail clipping over the cubicle walls. Thoughts on fingernail clippage at work? Clipping one hangnail at your desk: fine. Clipping all your nails at your desk: not okay. Do your grooming in private. (Also, how are they clipping their nails every day?! How fast do their nails grow?) 69. PTSD as a manager I have PTSD that I have told no one outside of HR at my workplace about, and that’s how I’d like to keep it. I manage a small group. Currently I’m in a pretty bad flare up and I can’t hide that something is wrong. I’m distracted, unproductive, and out of the office more thanks to increased therapy sessions. I’m sure employees wonder what is going on but nobody has asked. My boss knows I’m out more due my FMLA accommodations. Do I owe it to anyone to say anything else? You don’t have to, but as a manager it can be a kindness to your team to give them some context so they’re not worrying about what’s going on (and possibly filling in the blanks with things they’re not right about). You don’t need to give details, though; it would be enough to say, “I’m dealing with some stresses outside of work right now so if you notice me seeming distracted, that’s why. I’m working on it.” You could also replace “some stresses outside of work” with “a medical issue” if you want. 68. Boss asked staff to sign “no emotion” contract My boss recently asked one of their subordinates (who is middle manager) to sign a contract that states that they “won’t have any strong emotions,” specifically “depression or disappointment,” while at work. Am I correct in thinking this is bananapants? First the person signing the contract is likely on the spectrum and can be locking into their thinking pattern but I feel that this would be the boss’s job to help teach them how to break out of this pattern at work. Second, if someone has disclosed that they battle depression, would there not be legal pitfalls to making them sign a contract stating they will not “show depression at work”? WTF?! Yes, this is bananapants. And yes, it raises a bunch of legal issues since depression can be covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act. If your company is big enough to have middle managers, I’m guessing you also have HR. Someone should tip them off that they have a rogue and incompetent manager who’s opening them to real legal liability. 67. Best response to “work family” My boss really loves saying “we’re like a family” in internal meetings as well as when interviewing candidates. What’s the best response? “I don’t know if you know, but there’s been a big backlash against that phrase in recent years. People often interpret it as meaning they’ll be expected to work long hours for low pay and accept bad behavior. I obviously know that’s not how you mean it, but you might be inadvertently giving candidates the wrong impression.” 66. Pronoun usage I’m a fan of transparency with pronouns at work to signal that it’s an inclusive environment but how do you balance that with also respecting the fact that some people don’t want to come out in their email signatures and are forced to use pronouns they don’t associate with? Say it’s welcomed but not required. 65. Reference phone numbers Are we still including phone numbers with references, or is an email address good? Still phone numbers. 64. Is it time to pull the plug on my mentorship? I am a teapot engineer who, for 15 years, has been mentoring a person who wants to be a teapot engineer, but cannot obtain the necessary engineering degree. The mentee has gotten degrees in drafting and technical writing. They briefly were admitted to an engineering program, but flunked out in the first semester — after telling me they believed they had aced all their exams. Since then, no engineering school will admit them due to their poor prior performance. Despite my encouragement, the mentee refuses to work as a draftsperson or technical writer in a teapot company. It’s teapot engineering or nothing. I’m feeling less than helpful. Should I pull the plug on this mentorship? Probably. Cite increased demands on your schedule and wish them luck. 63. “Do you want anything” office etiquette If a coworker is going to grab coffee, food, smoothies, etc. and they ask you if you want anything, what’s the proper etiquette? Are they offering to treat? Is the subtext “I’ll get it for you but you pay me back”? What’s the best way to navigate? Generally they’re not offering to treat, only to obtain and transport. You should offer money before they go or ask how much you owe them when they get back. If it’s their treat, they’ll tell you at that point. 62. Cover letters Is an “optional” cover letter in a job application really optional? Yes. But in most industries, you’re generally better off including one for the same reasons they’re useful the rest of the time (assuming, at least, that you write one that adds something to your application rather than simply summarizing your resume). 61. Sick day trading At my (union, non-US) job, we are allowed to give away sick days. As a result, there’s a real market in swapping sick days for favors. One of my coworkers once financed an 18-month parental leave by trading home cooked meals for extra days. My spouse thinks this is ridiculous, that sick days shouldn’t be transferable. Is this normal in the world of collective agreements? Or is my work a crazy outlier? I can’t speak to other cultures, but for the U.S.: not normal, highly problematic. Some companies do let people donate sick days, but it’s generally (a) for people in unusually difficult situations, not something as routine as looking to extend parental leave and (b) an actual donation, not a swap for home-cooked meals or other bribery. 60. Resume dates for freelance work How do you suggest handling dates on a resume for very sporadic freelance work? I worked as a graphic designer for several years but quit my last full-time job in late 2019 to go to grad school. That ended up getting pushed out because of COVID, and I just finished my MFA this spring. Since 2019, I’ve had a few part-time jobs (retail and similar), as well as a few freelance design and illustration projects (those just over the last couple years). I’m updating my resume to apply for full-time graphic design jobs now, with a single “freelance graphic designer” entry to cover that small amount of work I’ve done. How should I indicate the dates of that work? I’m thinking something like “[month/year of first freelance gig] to present,” but I’m unsure whether that’s appropriate because my freelance work has been so sporadic. Yep, that’s exactly right. One umbrella listing to cover all the freelance work, with the dates done the way you proposed. 59. “I wish I wasn’t at work” decor How do you feel about people decorating their work space with decor that clearly states that they wish they weren’t here? Things like “I’m only here because I haven’t won the lottery,” or very large retirement countdown clocks (with thousands of days to count down). Our office staff support staff working in direct care, if that matters. In general: Eh. We’d all generally rather being doing something other than working, but you don’t make a point of announcing it to everyone who walks by. Still, though, there are some offices where this wouldn’t be out of place. But in direct care? It’s pretty crappy. Think it if you want, but it doesn’t need to be on a sign. 58. Produce giveaways It’s produce season in the Midwest. Is it appropriate to bring some in to the office to give away? How much is too much? Especially for something that grows a ton like zucchini. Yes! Bring in your extra produce! How much is too much: if it risks becoming a burden for your office, like the kitchen is so full of zucchini that no one can sit in there, or it’s left rotting because it was too much for people to take home. 57. Giving notice You recommend giving 2 weeks notice when leaving. Does that advice change if you’re managing a team or department? Nope! 56. Boss complains about money, a lot I work in a HR team of three. My boss is our director and earns SIGNIFICANTLY more than the two of us. I’m talking at least 45% more, not including her bonus. She’s been saying repeatedly that she’s living paycheck to paycheck. It’s getting annoying. I try to just move on with the convo and not engage with that info but it is irritating me. What’s your advice? “Imagine what it’s like on our salaries.” Possibly followed by, “Can you get all of us raises?” Or just internally roll your eyes and feel sorry for her for being so oblivious to her audience. 55. Desk decor What is your favorite personal item on *your* desk? Ridiculously overpriced Ember mug. It keeps your drink hot for a few hours and you can control its precise temperature from an app on your phone and I paid too much for it and I love it. 54. How much research should recruiters do? An in-house recruiter messaged me about a role he thought I was a great fit for. After a phone screening, they asked me to submit the application (which was a bit time-intensive, requiring a few short answer questions). However, a few weeks later, he got back to me and said unfortunately the hiring manager was looking for someone with a higher level of experience and they wouldn’t be bringing me in for an interview. Is this expected when applying via a recruiter? I would’ve thought he might’ve checked if I had the experience the hiring manager wanted before asking me to put time into the application and phone screening. It’s not uncommon. Sometimes it’s because recruiters didn’t ask the right questions before screening candidates, but sometimes it’s just that the hiring manager necessarily has a more nuanced knowledge of who will be right for the role, and even a good recruiter can slightly miss the mark. 53. Re-applying after a layoff I briefly worked for a company in late 2019/early 2020 before I was laid off with several others due to Covid. They are hiring for a position in the same department with a different function than what I was doing previously, but I think it could be a good fit with the experience I’ve gained in the last few years. Would it be weird to re-apply to a company after being laid off? Not weird at all! Go for it. 52. Egg on head What should be done about a coworker (Bob) who dropped an egg on his coworker (Mary’s) head while she was in the lobby and he was on the second floor in an area overlooking the lobby, but Bob claims it was an accident and we can’t prove otherwise but suspect? The lack of context here is almost as interesting as the question itself! What do you know about Bob aside from this? There are some people where you’d easily think, “I can’t imagine Bob intentionally dropping an egg on someone’s head, so of course it’s believable that it was an accident” … and there are other people where you’d think, “Dropping an egg on someone’s head is exactly something Bob would do.” I’m guessing from your question that this is the latter. If that’s the case, you have a very serious conversation with Bob where you tell him he’s on a short leash, you’re watching him carefully, and if he messes up again, he’s out. And then you do watch him carefully — because there’s clearly a judgment issue here and it’s likely another egg shoe is going to drop. Usually in cases like that, if you go looking, you’ll find plenty. 51. Interesting jobs Sometimes you interview someone who has an interesting job. I have always wondered about the person who picks out music for TV shoes like “This Is Us.” How do they find the perfect songs? How does someone end up with that job? Can that be your next interview? Yes, please. If anyone has this job or knows someone who does, please get in touch immediately. 50. Elaborate musical number about coworker What would happen in real life if a bunch of employees wrote and performed an elaborate musical number about how incompetent their coworker is, like “How Do You Solve a Problem Like Maria?” Would that be considered a hostile work environment? “Hostile work environment” is a legal term that means the harassment or discrimination is linked to a protected characteristic of the target — race, sex, age (if 40 or over), religion, disability, etc. If they just didn’t like the coworker and none of those things were in play, it wouldn’t be a hostile workplace in the legal sense, but it would certainly be one in the colloquial sense. People should not perform musical numbers about not liking their coworkers. Or at least they should save it for the privacy of their own homes. 49. Moderation How do we flag a problematic comment for moderation? Reply to the comment with a quick note about your concern (even just writing “flag” is fine) and include a link. All links go through moderation so I’ll see it and can take a look. If you ever forget this, it’s included on the “how to comment” page. 48. Rescheduling meetings Twice in the past two weeks, fellow managers (at my same level) have had to cancel meetings that involve most of my team. In both cases they have given me a day or two in notice, then noted that their calendars were up to date so that I could find a new meeting time. My feeling about this is that it’s not up to me to go into their calendars and find a new meeting time, but that the onus in on them to reschedule. Whose responsibility is it? We don’t have any support staff to manage our calendars for us. If we were going to make a rule about it, it should be their responsibility (since they’re not senior to you and they’re the ones canceling). On a practical level, though, I wouldn’t get too hung up on who does it. Or at least, as long as there’s not additional context that makes it annoying (like that they only do this to women or they’re condescending generally). If you do want to push it back to them, it would be fine to say, “I’m running between appointments today so could you handle the rescheduling? My calendar is up to date. Thanks!” 47. Job offer timing Spouse thinks if, after final round of interviews, a week goes by without contact it means they’re not interested and are going to offer to another candidate. Do you think that’s true specifically for job offers? Nope, it definitely is not. 46. Coworker said my office should be searched because I tried out for the Olympics I work on an academic campus with a very strict no weapons policy, which I’m totally okay with and would never dream of violating. I also tried out for the Olympic shooting team, but didn’t make the cut. I didn’t really think much of mentioning that I had tried out to my coworkers, or that I hadn’t qualified when the Games were happening. Those conversations must have concerned someone, because one of my coworkers (I don’t know who) asked campus security to search my office, since they believed I probably had firearms on campus with me. I didn’t, but now I’m not sure what I should do? Having my office searched was incredibly invasive, disruptive, and embarrassing. My dean thinks I should just shrug and consider it normal, but I’m hurt that one of my coworkers would think that I’d violate our policies like this (or even carry in a public space), and upset by the idea of my office being searched again. WTF? I don’t agree that you should consider that normal, but your dean is right that there’s not much to be done. Is there any way you can tell yourself it could have been a legitimate misunderstanding on the anonymous coworker’s part? It might be good for your peace of mind if you can … but either way, there’s nothing really actionable here. (If it started happening all the time, that would be different. But so far it’s just been one weird incident.) 45. Moderation assistants Are you the only one approving comments or do you have community volunteers / outside employees helping you? It’s just me! 44. Breaks My son-in-law refuses to take a lunch break at his work (he’s over shipping for a small mail order business). He’s salaried, a hard worker, and well-liked by his boss but he also struggles with anxiety and I suspect he feels (irrationally) that it would look like he’s loafing on company time. As a result, he’s starving and exhausted when he gets home and it’s playing havoc with his health. His wife has tried to reason with him, his mother has tried, and I have tried. I don’t know what his employer has said about it (if anything )but the atmosphere is casual and while I’m positive he would be fine with him taking a lunch break, he’s going to let my son-in-law do what he wants. If this was your relative, what might you say to him? Maybe this: “If I were your manager, I’d be so upset to learn someone working for me felt this way. I’d feel responsible for you being hungry and exhausted every day, and I’d feel I’d failed at being a good manager if you worried about taking lunch.” Or maybe just: “Why don’t you run this by your boss and see how they feel about it?” But I also think you’ve already tried and it’s not your place to keep pushing. 43. Hybrid etiquette I am a hybrid employee who needs to come into the office 2 days a week. My work is done using a computer and I am unable to work without logging onto the system. I am located 20 minutes from the office. There was an outage with the VPN one day last week while I was working from home. Only associates who were physically in the office were able to log into the system. Around 11am, management asked for those of us working from home to come into the office. Is it an expectation to have to come in on a planned work from home day due to system issues outside my control? It can be, yes. If you literally can’t do the work from home, it’s not outrageous to ask you to move to a location where you can. 42. Shoeless and sockless in meetings Our former CEO would often go barefoot in the office, which was fine I guess, but in meetings, she would sit with her feet up on her chair and be touching her bare feet. Like, massaging her foot and rubbing her toes during debrief meetings and discussions about the company’s future. This is a professional organization and not a small mom-and-pop, to be clear. Thoughts on barefooted meetings? Eeeww. I’m pro bare feet if they’re under your desk, but you don’t massage your nude feet in business meetings. 41. Managers don’t communicate My manager rarely talks to me outside of our weekly departmental meeting. Whenever I need his advice or help, my other colleagues are in his office talking to him. They treat him like a big brother and frequently stop in his office throughout the day to talk shop and/or sports. I’ve jokingly mentioned to him that it’s really hard to actually talk to him. He admits that it’s a problem but says I should stop in his office anytime. But there’s always someone else in his office! Any advice? Why not just schedule time with him? Say, “It’s hard to find time with you since you’re often talking with someone else when I pop by — could I get 30 minutes on your calendar every other week?” (Or whatever frequency seems reasonable for your context.) 40. Do you ever want to run a company? You’ve got so much cumulative knowledge on what’s good and bad for employees. If you could start a company (you know, money aside) would you? Good lord, no. I want less work and responsibility, not more. 39. Employee got angry at someone who told her to have a good weekend I’m a first time manager. One of my employees, “Meghan,” got angry at someone who said, “I hope you have a good weekend.” It was a harmless comment, and the person who said it was using it to close a conversation. Meghan complained to me and said that her weekend is none of the other person’s business and by her own account she was rude to the person who said it. Meghan has also previously complained about someone who said “hi” and “morning!” to her as they were arriving at our office. Meghan says people need to leave her alone and stay out of her business. I think people are just being friendly but Meghan says they aren’t her friends and takes it as an affront. How do I address this with Meghan? I’m not saying she has to be friends with her colleagues but I also want to respect her boundaries. Meghan is a loon. Explain to her that part of working in an office with other people is maintaining at least minimally pleasant/civil relationships, that the phrases she’s objecting to are utterly routine social niceties, and that she needs to be polite in return. That doesn’t mean she needs to divulge anything about her personal life, but she does need to maintain reasonably pleasant relationships with people. I don’t have enough time writing this on the fly to decide for sure if I want to recommend this or not, but if I had more time I’d also be thinking about whether to suggest she seek some outside-of-work coaching on relationships if this isn’t intuitive to her. There are going to be other problems with Meghan. 38. Too much dog time? My boss loves to start remote meetings by putting their cat on camera. I don’t want to be a party pooper, but we have work to do! The five minutes of baby talk about how good their cat is, is starting to drive me crazy. Is there anything I can do about this? Can you feasibly say at the start of the meeting, “I’ve got a hard stop at 2:00, so can we jump right in?” 37. Habits of a bookworm Do you read paper books, e-books, or both? I never expected this, but I’m 100% ebooks now. 36. Younger queer coworker keeps outing older queer me I’m queer and 50, out to my close colleagues and absolutely everyone in my non-work life. I have a younger colleague who is also queer and I’ve noticed they keep bringing up our mutual queerness in front of coworkers who I wouldn’t have mentioned it to because they aren’t a “work friend.” What’s a good script I can use to tell my colleague that I’m not ashamed, exactly, but past experience with homophobic coworkers means I want to come out on my own terms when I do? “Hey, I’m selective about who I’m out to at work, so please let me choose who I share that with.” 35. When the LW’s coworkers see their question AAM is anonymous, but often if enough details are given (which is often a necessity to getting help), it might not be that hard for a coworker to identify the writer. What would you say to someone who wants help but is afraid to write in because their coworkers might see it? Sometimes letter-writers ask me for help ensuring they’ll stay anonymous and we’ll sometimes do things like add some details that won’t change the answer but will make it sound less like them (for example, including an industry that isn’t theirs, a team size that’s clearly not theirs, a job title that isn’t theirs, etc.). It’s useful for people to tell me when they’re doing that so that I don’t inadvertently edit it out because it seems extraneous, and also in case those details might change the answer in some way (in which case I can suggest different options). 34. First question When did you get your first question ever? June 2007! When I started the site, I didn’t know if I would get any questions at all, so my early posts were just me writing advice in a non-Q&A format (perhaps that’s called a rant?). But letters started coming in by month two, and that’s mostly been the format ever since. 33. Can I be excused? Is there a polite way to excuse myself from a zoom meeting when the other person is trying to problem solve something on their own but it relates to a project I’m responsible for? I have a coworker, who I like and would like to keep up a good relationship with, but they have a quirk that drives me batty. Sometimes when we’re meeting virtually, we’ll come across a roadblock/hurdle for our joint project. My working style preference is for us to hop off the zoom, figure out what we need to do, then hop back on. Colleague seems to prefer for us to stay on zoom as they slowly talk to themselves as they try to figure out the issue. This has gone on for over an hour before, and when I’ve said I need to get off they have seemed a bit offended. I feel like it’s not productive for me to sit there as they mumble, “Hmm maybe….(typing multiple seconds) hmmm… no (typing + long pause) mmm… maybe…” repeat. This can go on and on and it just drives me crazy. It’s always for projects that are assigned to us both, so it’s not like I’m expecting them to do everything, I just really don’t enjoy sitting on a zoom while someone is working like that. “It’s going to be easier for me to hop off and figure this out so I’m going to jump off and will message you once I’ve got it.” If you’re just waiting them and don’t need to do anything yourself: “I’m swamped today so I’m going to jump off and give you some time to do this. Message me if you want to pick it back up afterwards!” 32. “Please advise” I get irrationally annoyed when folks use the phrase “please advise” in emails to me. I don’t entirely know why I feel this way — maybe it’s because it’s a directive instead of a question? It feels too formal? I am the only one, or are there other “please advise” haters out in the world too? I don’t like it either! Not to the point that I’d suggest someone working for me not use it in their emails (maybe if there was a bigger issue of them coming across as overly formal/chilly emails) but I do not enjoy it. I think it’s because most people who write that don’t talk that way in person, and emails are generally more effectively written if they sound like an actual human talking. 31. I hate getting feedback I get physically ill when getting feedback and even good feedback feels like a dagger if it isn’t perfect. It is so bad that my partner has to read emails from my boss first and then tell me it is safe to read. I apparently do my job well and get good reviews but it hurts to even get “meets expectations” or even mild constructive criticism, even when I KNOW it is something I need to work on. Therapy. This reaction is rooted in something; it’s not happening randomly. For example: any chance you grew up in a household where you were expected to be perfect and/or even minor mistakes generated outsized/scary reactions? Or had a perfectionist parent who themselves reacted to feedback the way you are, thus wiring you to do it too? I’m guessing the issue isn’t confined to work and is popping up in other areas of your life, but even if it isn’t, this is a terrible way to go through life and you deserve to sort it out so that you’re not living with this constant dread. A therapist can help you figure out where it came from and help you see that whatever your brain is reacting to is something other than your current circumstances (which is the first step to draining it of its power). 30. Volunteer positions on a resume I’m currently a stay at home mom but will be re-entering the workforce soon. I was previously a teacher and will probably go back to something in the education world. I am currently the VP of the PTA and was previously President of the local chapter of a national organization for parents. Both of these positions were elected by the members in the organization. Obviously, these aren’t “work experiences,” but is there a place for them on a resume? Yes, definitely! Put them in a Community Involvement or Volunteer section. 29. Politely dodging lunch invitations I used to attend monthly lunches with a group of coworkers in similar roles, which were helpful for getting to know each other, sharing tips, etc. I’ve now been promoted to a different role. The organizer has shifted the lunches to a more social format and keeps including me on the invitations. When people decline the invitations, she insists on finding a time that works for all. Is it rude for me to continue to ignore or decline the calendar invitations, or is there a better way for me to opt out of these social lunches without seeing cold? “Thanks so much for trying to find a time that would work for me! My calendar has gotten really packed and it’s tough to fit in anything optional right now. If I can start attending again at some point in the future, I’ll let you know.” 28. Commenters Does it annoy you when commenters give the exact same advice to the letter writer that you did, without acknowledging they’re saying the same thing you said? It drives me batty and I don’t know if I should continue being annoyed on your behalf! It doesn’t bother me! The nature of comment sections is that people give their own thoughts, usually without regard to whether something similar has already been said. And sometimes it’s just a way of saying “I agree with this” but in their own words. Feel feel not to be annoyed on my behalf! 27. Would you rather… Would you rather have a crappy boss and 10 great coworkers or a great boss and 10 crappy coworkers? Why? I dispute the premise! If you truly have a great boss, you won’t have 10 crappy coworkers, by definition. 26. Shushing coworkers This just happened 5 minutes ago and I need an attitude check. In our building, I work adjacent to the lobby and have to cross the lobby and pass the meeting room off of the lobby every time I use the restroom. Inevitably, a coworker stops to chat about work which is fine with me because otherwise I work in a windowless room by myself (completely different issue). There is a meeting happening in this space today — which I would have no way of knowing until I passed a door with a small window and I looked in and noticed people meeting. Today, a coworker stopped me and started talking, normal inside voices, but in a lobby of tile, glass and a waterfall, apparently they could hear our voices in the meeting room and a gentlemen stepped out and “shushed” us. No words, just “shush, shush, shhhhhhhhhh” and stared at us and pointed to a sign that said a meeting was in progress. This sign was not on the door of the meeting room, but on the white wall across from it on a white piece of paper — which I admittedly did not notice. In the long run this is a non-issue, but it rubbed me the wrong way. Obviously I’m going to let this go, but should people shush others at work? The way he did it was rude. It’s fine to say, “We’re having trouble hearing in the meeting — could you keep your voices down?” but just a literal “shush” is rude. 25. Resumes Do you prefer resumes with periods at the end of each statement or no periods? Doesn’t matter, just be consistent throughout with whichever way you pick. 24. Freelance clients who don’t pay well I’ve seen a few LinkedIn “influencers” imply that if you take a freelance gig that doesn’t pay well, it’s OK to do a half-assed job. I tend to think if you accepted the assignment, your work should be as good as it would be for higher-paying clients. You always have the option not to accept the job, after all. What do you think? That’s terrible advice, and a good way to build a crappy reputation. The way you get better and better positioned as a freelancer (and thus usually better and better paid, and better able to pick and choose what clients and projects you take) is by doing good work and building a good reputation. If you don’t think the money is worth the work, don’t accept the job. If you accept it, don’t half-ass it (unless you explicitly arrange that with the client ahead of time, like “for $X, I could do X and Y but not Z”). 23. Best general interview questions I’m doing first round interviews for a position next week. Got any suggestions to freshen up those general questions we typically ask? You know, tell us about yourself, what about this position excites you, etc. Don’t look at it as needing to freshen up your questions. Look at it as needing questions that really hone in on the specific, concrete things that will make someone successful in the role. So draw up a list of the must-have qualities and experiences and then ask questions that get people talking about times they’ve done those things/demonstrated those qualities in the past. That will tell you so much more than any generic internet list of questions. 22. Upset when work drinks cancelled My team have a regularly-scheduled work drinks that is quite often called off last-minute because people aren’t feeling it. I really enjoy these drinks, particularly as it’s a chance to catch up with colleagues outside of those I directly work with, and them being called off always makes me feel down. Can I bring this up to my colleagues without sounding like a friendless weirdo? Eh, I think you’ve got to let it go. If people aren’t feeling it — they’re tired, have stuff outside of work they need to deal with, or just don’t feel up to after-work socializing at the moment — you shouldn’t pressure them into doing it anyway. Instead, can you build this likelihood into your expectations from the start and just always know that the drinks event is always somewhat tentative and subject to change, so you’re not seeing as a such a concrete Will Happen when in reality it’s more of a Might Happen? 21. Salaried non-exempt How is overtime calculated for salaried non-exempt employees? Same way as always for non-exempt employees: for all hours over 40 that you work in a week, you must be paid time and a half. 20. Are cropped shirts always inappropriate for work? While contemplating an outfit for an indoor/outdoor work event (usually a remote and very casual office), I thought about wearing a high-necked black crop top that I have with a pair of palazzo pants that is so high waisted the crop top is actually longer than them, with a lightweight oversized cardigan over it, but chickened out under the assumption that crop tops are never appropriate. What do you think? Crop tops that reveal your midriff aren’t appropriate for most workplaces. But you’re saying no midriff skin shows with this outfit because of how high-waisted the pants are, so the rule doesn’t apply (as long as that’s true the whole time you’re wearing it and doesn’t change if you, for example, bend over or stretch). 19. Boredom If I’m bored at work constantly, is it just not the job for me? Maybe. Are you willing to trade boredom for money? Some people are. Is it important to you to build a career where you advance, do work that you’re intellectually engaged by, and/or find meaning in what you’re doing? If so, then it might not be for you. Our culture tells us that we’re supposed to find meaning and joy in our work (well, it tells a certain socioeconomic portion of us, anyway, because it definitely doesn’t tell all of us) but not everyone looks at work that way and you’re not required to. All of which is to say, you’ve got to look internally on this one. 18. Coworker retiring after tragedy I have a coworker who recently announced their upcoming retirement. Normally I’d congratulate them and generally treat this as something to celebrate, but this coworker recently experienced a personal tragedy and it seems likely that this event at least partially prompted their decision to retire. The office is having a retirement party for this coworker soon — what tone should I take when both “congratulations” and “my condolences” feel inappropriate? I think neither of those. Just: “It’s been great working with you, and I’m going to miss you.” 17. Cats! Can we get an update on (and preferably photos of) your resident kitties? A surprisingly high number of cat-related questions have been submitted, so I think I’ll need to do a cat info post soon. The last time I included it in a list of other questions it drowned out everything else. (Entirely reasonably.) 16. Field-specific conferences I’ve shifted from academia to business and find myself perplexed by the purpose of field-specific business conferences. I can’t tell what they’re for! What are you supposed to do at, say, the Northeastern Teapot Makers’ Association conference? Lots of it is networking. LOTS. But you’ll also normally find sessions on things like relevant to the field — so the Northeastern Teapot Makers’ Association conference might have sessions on recent developments in spout technology, the legislative landscape for teapot makers, how new regulations in Vermont are playing out on the ground, attracting non-traditional candidates to the field, building a social media program for your teapots, and so forth. 15. QTMFJA Another advice columnist I read occasionally has an acronym for when he wants to make it clear to a letter writer that they have stayed in a relationship for too long in the face of unreasonable behavior and need to dump their partner. What would your acronym be? Something along the lines of: TTBYR (Time To Brush Up Your Resume), TJINRFY (This Job Is No Longer Right For You), DTEES (Deploy The Emergency Exit Slide), SYJH (Start Your Job Hunt)? YBSAIGTC Your boss sucks and isn’t going to change. It’s not very catchy. 14. Being glutened at work I have a severe intolerance to gluten — think similar reaction that celiac people have. At work I avoid pretty much everything that I haven’t brought in myself due to “hidden gluten” or fear of cross contamination. I have very pushy coworkers who won’t accept a “no” for an answer. What’s a more polite way to say “I know you said you read all the labels, but if you made a mistake I will be pooping blood in an hour, and I can’t risk that”? “Thank you, but I’m under strict orders from my doctor not to make exceptions.” “Thank you, but no.” “It’s a medical restriction and it’s not flexible.” If someone keeps pushing after one of those, they’re being rude — but you don’t need to convince them or even engage at all. Change the subject, find a reason you need to leave the room, etc. 13. Paid leave A former employer offered paid days off for jury duty. A condition to receive the paid time off was that we had to pay them the money the court gave us for serving on a jury. It’s a pretty common policy. The idea is that you’re not supposed to profit off of jury duty. 12. Apologizing vs. thanking I had a mentor advise that, if I’m responding later than anticipated, I should use “thank you for your patience” rather that “sorry for the delay.” Do you have any thoughts or feelings on the distinction? A lot of people recommend this. I don’t always love it! It makes sense in situations where you really don’t need to apologize (and it can be a particularly useful switch for people who over-apologize), but I’d be mildly annoyed if someone made me wait for them (not for an email, but for a call or in-person appointment) and then said “thank you for your patience” rather than just apologizing — I’d prefer they take responsibility for the delay. 11. Is naming a baby Donald a political statement? Donald was the name of a beloved and favorite uncle of mine. He died before 2016. If I had kids, I always wanted to name one of my children after him. Now that I’m pregnant, I’m wondering if my coworkers will think negatively of me for naming my baby Donald. Is the name tainted? Or I am just overthinking things? (My last name is not Trump.) Donald is not a tainted name (so far, anyway). It’s not like naming your baby Adolph. Go ahead and use it. LET’S ALL RECLAIM DONALD. 10. Book recommendations If you read quite often, and I think you do, do you just recommend the book that you finished reading that week in your weekly book recommendations? Have you ever not finished reading a book because you just couldn’t get through it? I give up on books ALL THE TIME. I won’t stick with a book if I’m not liking it (and I’m currently in a slump where I’m not finishing a ton of books I start) and I won’t recommend it here if I didn’t like it. A lot of my book recommendations here are things I read recently, but I also have a long list of previous stuff that I liked but haven’t recommended here yet that I can always pull from if needed. (In fact, a couple of weeks ago I recommended Fleishman Is In Trouble and my husband saw it and was like, “Oh are you in a reading slump?” because he knows it’s been a couple of years since I read it and I felt very known in that moment.) 9. One piece of advice for new managers You have a lot of great advice on your blog for new managers, but if you were to have to pick ONE top tip for new managers, what would it be? Say what’s in your head. This applies to everything from laying out expectations for what a particular piece of work should look like and how someone should approach it to addressing problems. If you have thoughts that are going to affect how successful you think someone is in their role, they need to hear those thoughts, explicitly, from you. Don’t expect people to read your mind. 8. Things to know before you start What would be good things to ask before your first day of work, and when should I ask? The number of times I’ve been awkwardly waiting at the front door of the business until someone let me in isn’t a lot, but enough to be embarrassing. Ask about dress code (if it wasn’t already quite clear from your interview) and what time you should arrive. Nothing beyond that is universally essential, although if you want to you can also ask if you there’s anything in particular you should prepare ahead of time. (There shouldn’t be! You shouldn’t be asked to do work before you start. But saying that will sometimes elicit useful info about had to expect on your first day.) 7. Surprise Me button Your Surprise Me button is probably my favorite thing on the Internet but I’m always sad when I want to comment on an oldie because you close the comments so quickly after a new column goes up. Why is that? I comment occasionally on current posts during the window but I often find old posts I’d love to ask for an update on! A few reasons: Moderation takes time and energy and there’s a much lower return on investment after the first couple of days a post is up (since the conversation has mostly moved on after that point— and for some reason late-arriving comments are much more likely to be odd or off-topic). Also, older posts attract more spam. 6. Etiquette around gifted baked goods Not exactly high-stakes, but what is the etiquette around receiving baked goods? When I was first starting out in my career, I had an acquaintance from another department bake me a birthday cake. Less than half of it was eaten by the end of the day and I didn’t know what else to do with it, so I decided to take it home (we didn’t have access to tupperware and I didn’t want it to attract critters). The baker caught me walking out with it and did NOT like that I was taking it home. It seemed like she didn’t want me to take her plate home and heavily implied that I was robbing others from being able to enjoy the cake. I ended up still bring it home, but did I commit some major faux pas? No! Typically if someone brings food in for you, you get the leftovers unless other arrangements are explicitly requested. You presumably weren’t intending to steal her plate and were using it for necessary transport, then would have washed it and returned it. This is normal. Your coworker was being weird. 5. Badgers in the office If there’s a family of badgers living in a supply closet in our office and the company refuses to do anything about it since they insist it’s the exterminator’s job and the exterminator says they don’t handle badgers, what should we as employees do? We are scared of the badgers. This is super out of my wheelhouse, but can someone call a wildlife relocator instead? Why are we exterminating these badgers rather than moving them to a more suitable habitat? 4. Gossip or fair game? If another coworker leaves something in the copier/printer that indicates they will be leaving your employer (think copy of a driver’s license or passport) that you discover by accident, is that knowledge gossip or privileged? Or is it fair game to share with other colleagues? It’s not fair game to share. If it was meant to be private, treat it as private. (But also, I wouldn’t assume copying a license or passport indicates they’re applying for a job, particularly since those documents generally need to be examined in person anyway.) 3. Weird offboarding experience I’m leaving my job at a startup (~30 people) this Friday and they have just been so strange with the offboarding. It started with no acknowledgement from leadership when I handed my notice in 2 months ago (they work with me almost daily – never brought it up and only mentioned re-hiring in a wider team meeting once). Now I’m two days away and there’s been no company announcement beyond my small, immediate team, no exit interviews scheduled, no arranging to collect my devices, no equity info. This doesn’t read petty to me fyi, just lazy. I don’t want to have to remind a (very experienced) HR person to have to do their job but I’m also pretty angry at this all and not quite sure what to do. Beyond the equity buyout which I will be following up on for obvious reasons, I feel quite conflicted about how much I should act here and how much I should just ride this out and run as far away as possible. Figure out which stuff will be more of a hassle for you if it doesn’t get addressed before you leave (probably just equity info and device return) and address that stuff yourself. If they don’t want to do the rest of the normal departure things, so be it. (For what it’s worth, it’s not necessarily that weird that they’re not doing an exit interview — not everywhere does — but they’re definitely being weird about not telling people, not talking to you about transition items, etc.) 2. Who pays? When doing networking coffee dates, I know it’s typical that the person asking is the person who pays. How does it work if I’m asking a more senior person (such as a person who isn’t my direct supervisor but on that same level and in a supervisory role over others in my role) — do I pay since I’m the person asking to learn more from her? Or would it be weird if I paid since she is more senior in my company? If you did the inviting, you should plan to pay. The more senior person is likely to offer to pay and if they do you can let them — but go in assuming you’re paying as the invitation-issuer. 1. Debt relief versus a bad job I’m in a job-based student loan repayment program. If I stick it out, the equivalent of half my loans will be paid off, which is huge for me. Problem is my job sucks. The culture is cliquey and toxic, the boss is volatile and codependent, and the work is unfulfilling. I have less than two years I have to stay, and leaving early would mean paying back the program. But it’s hard to put up with this place and feel myself die a little bit each day. New to the workplace, is this an adulting thing you just put up with? Only you can decide if it’s worth it to you, but half your loans paid off and less than two years to go? I’d stick it out unless it’s unsafe, you’re being harassed, or something else truly intolerable. (That said, if you could move to another job that would still qualify you for the repayment program, look into that!) 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can I tell my intern she laughs too much? by Alison Green on August 28, 2024 A reader writes: I manage an intern who tends to respond with short bursts of laughter at incongruous times, like when I am explaining something to her or when I am giving her directions (and I’m not trying to be funny!). It can be pretty jarring. I noticed it during her interview, but chalked it up to nerves and hoped it would subside as she became more comfortable. One month in, I don’t think it has decreased. I am concerned that clients and colleagues will think she is mocking them or not taking them seriously. I also hate the idea of being the laughter police! How should I approach this? I answer this question — and three others — over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and sometimes updating/expanding my answers to them). You can read it here. Other questions I’m answering there today include: I accidentally shared a list of my personal debts with my team Is saying “my staff” demeaning? My client wants to do professional development with me You may also like:should I report coworkers for mean tweets about an intern if someone could get caught in the crossfire?my coworkers think I'm an intern ... but I'm notI'm being pressured to chauffeur interns to and from work { 97 comments }
when your teenager dates your boss’s son and it goes bad by Alison Green on August 28, 2024 A reader writes: I know that you’ve repeatedly discussed how romantic relationships at work can be problematic, but how do you navigate it when it’s your child? I was catching up with a friend (Sara) who told me that her teenage daughter had started dating Sara’s boss’s teenage son. Sara didn’t want to forbid the relationship as that would likely push them together even more, in a star-crossed lover kind of way. When the relationship did eventually go sour, with lots of teen angst along the way, the boss became noticeably chilly toward Sara. Obviously this shows poor management skills, but is there anything Sara could have or should have done to avoid this? Ugh, this is really, really on Sara’s boss for letting it affect his relationship with Sara. This is teenagers dating! It’s not like their adult children got married and then one of them grievously wronged the other. It would be wrong for a manager to let that affect his treatment of an employee too, but it would least be more understandable than being this invested in a teenage romance. I don’t know that there’s anything Sara could have done about it ahead of time. At most she could have talked to her daughter at the start of the relationship about the reality that it could intersect with Sara’s professional life — not to say “so you can’t date him,” but to say, “I trust you to operate with kindness and respect in any romantic relationship, and I’m asking you to make a particular point of that here since otherwise this could be messy” …but then she’d need to really talk through what that means (because you don’t want the daughter thinking that means she can’t break up with the guy, for example). Frankly, though, I don’t love the idea of burdening a teenager with that. I suppose you could argue that conversation isn’t a bad lesson in the complications that come with dating someone with professional authority over a family member, but I think it’s too early for a teenager who’s still figuring out Dating 101 to have to grapple with that too. Ultimately this is Sara’s boss’s fault, and he sucks. You may also like:my dad is dating my boss, and they want me to go to couples therapy with themI had a fling with my boss's son; pink, scented resumes; and moreI've been accidentally dating my boss's husband { 161 comments }
a defensive executive, work-from-home is being revoked but there’s a baby, and more by Alison Green on August 28, 2024 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. Exec’s imposter syndrome makes her defensive I chair a board of a mid-size community organization and as part of that role I line manage the chief exec, Flora. She’s a phenomenally smart, talented person with a real depth of experience in the work of the people she leads and a wonderful vision for how to make the organization better for the communities it serves. She can also tend … tetchy if she feels attacked or on the defensive. During a recent conversation about this where I noted the pattern of defensiveness and asked what’s going on, she indicated that part of the problem is she’s really struggling with impostor syndrome, especially when working with other board members who have expertise in related fields. This makes her feel defensive and less open to hearing other people’s views, and turns into a bit of a negative spiral. I’m going to see if we can get her some career coaching, and of course I make sure to tell her both at formal and informal feedback moments what specifically she’s doing well. But is there anything I’m missing as a manager? What can I do to help Flora feel more confident and thus open to other people’s views? This isn’t a case of someone new to the workplace with no track record, this is a senior leader with lots of evidence of her value, which she is struggling to see! A coach is a good idea. Look for a management coach, not a career coach, and make sure you or she specifically identifies this issue to them as a main one to work on. But also: you’re approaching this in a very supportive way (“what can I do to help her feel more confident?”) but you’ve got to approach it as a fairly serious performance issue too. Flora needs to hear clearly from you that it’s not okay to be defensive or shut out other viewpoints — in any job but especially as the ED. As the ED, that behavior will have a massive negative effect on her staff — on morale, on initiative, and eventually on retention. Right now your approach sounds fairly soft — basically, “work on this as best as you can and we want to support you in feeling capable” — but it needs to include that this is a big deal and needs to change quickly. Flora’s feelings of imposter syndrome may take longer to overcome, but her actual actions need to change now. You can work on building up her confidence too, but don’t soft-pedal how seriously she needs to take this. 2. My daughter’s work-from-home is being revoked, but she has a baby at home My daughter has worked from home since 2020. She was just appointed a new supervisor who does not like her. This supervisor just told her that she is part of their team and needs to work in the office on Mondays and Fridays. Normally this wouldn’t be an issue, but she now has a three-year-old at home and a three-month-old baby who she breast feeds. What rights does my daughter have, if any? None, really. Employers are allowed to require employees to work from the office. (There can be exceptions made for disability accommodations required under the Americans with Disabilities Act, but that wouldn’t come into play here since breast-feeding isn’t a considered a disability.) It’s possible that she could argue working remotely was a condition of her hire (if it was; the fact that it started in 2020 says it might have been a pandemic measure, rather than something she specially negotiated when hired). Even then, though, employers have the right to change those arrangements, and indeed many of them have been calling workers back to the office, even people who were promised they could work from home permanently. Employers are allowed to change those conditions, as much as it sucks for people who planned around different arrangements. However, does your daughter have child care for the kids and this is just an issue of breastfeeding? I’m hoping yes since most people can’t care for young children while simultaneously working, and it’s very common for employers to require remote employees with young kids to have separate child care arrangements for that reason. But if she’s doing both jobs herself, there’s an additional risk to pushing this — because if her employer realizes she’s doing that the other three days a week, she risks them pulling those days too. She doesn’t really have much recourse here, I’m sorry. We don’t have good systems for working parents in this country (or support for parents in general, for that matter). 3. How to email people who are dealing with crises I struggle with how to email work colleagues when I know they are dealing with family crises or other emergencies. There’s stuff I know my boss wants to be kept in the loop on, but it feels so cold to send a bland work email when I know she’s out taking care of a sick relative. I expressed sympathy when she told us about the crisis, but now I’m drafting regular emails days later and wondering if I need to put in even more sympathy, or if that risks bringing things up/being too emotional about normal work. She’s generally pretty private, too, though has shared about this relative’s condition regularly. It’s such a fine line to walk — any general tips? Generally people are fine with being in work mode when dealing with work, even when they’re also dealing with a family crisis. You don’t need to acknowledge the crisis in each communication; it’s fine to just send the emails you normally would. That said, if you don’t have a ton of communication with your boss and some time has passed since the last time you spoke, it doesn’t hurt to open with something like, “I hope your mom is doing okay” or similar. 4. Can I reject someone for a job because their age means we wouldn’t get a return on our investment? I have been attempting to hire a machinist. After getting very little response from online ads, I am now considering using a recruiter and paying a fee: 25% of the first year’s salary. The first two resumes the recruiter sent to me were both very good but one machinist started working in 1984 which would make him close to 60 years old. Is it legal for me to tell the recruiter I won’t consider him because we wouldn’t get a return on our investment, considering the recruiter’s $30,000 – $40,000 fee, before the candidate retires? If this person had applied directly to us, I would be open to hiring him. It’s illegal to make a candidate’s age a factor in a hiring decision (if they’re 40 or older) so you could not legally do that. But for what it’s worth, there’s no guarantee that you’ll get a return on your investment in hiring younger candidates either since people leave, move, etc. So you might consider whether there are ways to beef up your recruitment efforts on your own without using a recruiter. For example, advertise in places you haven’t tried previously, reach out to local technical schools, offer apprenticeships, and/or use some of the money you’d pay the recruiter to raise the salary instead. 5. Songs about HR and accounting My office is doing a fiscal year-end trivia event this Thursday and we’re looking for ideas about work-related songs to include in the trivia, ideally HR and accounting songs since we’re an IT group that supports applications for those areas. For example, someone has suggested Taxman by the Beatles. I thought your readers might have some fun suggestions! “Ideally HR and accounting songs” makes this a lot more challenging than just work-related songs. But I feel we’ll come through. Have at it in the comments! You may also like:how to take feedback gracefully, without getting defensivemy boss is telling people I quit because of COVID, but I quit because of herI'm embarrassed by the problems my new staff member is uncovering -- and keep getting defensive { 909 comments }
my coworker won’t use women’s names by Alison Green on August 27, 2024 A reader writes: This is a weird low-stakes thing. I work in a small government office and we have a guy working here who’s been here for over 40 years and is within a year or two of retiring. I like him well enough, but I’ve noticed he almost never calls women by their names. Any woman he speaks to, he addresses as just “you,” and if he’s talking about a woman who’s not in the room, he just says “her.” There are more women working here than men, and he always uses the men’s names or at least their surnames. It makes it very confusing when I have no idea which “her” he means. I’m “her,” my closest colleague is “her,” our big boss is “her.” I have no idea if he’s doing it deliberately/maliciously or if he just genuinely can’t remember any of our names, and thus no idea if I should be outraged or trying to do anything about it. If I prompt him, he usually will clarify who he’s talking about, after a bit of hesitation, and he’s not particularly sexist or anything beyond this. Is this just a weird quirk I should continue to be mildly amused and perplexed by, or should I be taking a more active stance in getting him to use women’s names? Why not just ask him about it? “I’ve noticed you never refer to women by their names although you use men’s names. How come?” And then maybe: “It’s really hard to know who you’re talking about when you don’t use names. Can you please use our names just like you do with men?” Who knows why he’s doing this. Maybe he’s uncomfortable with women, maybe he sees us all as a generic block with no individuality, maybe he’s taking a stand against women being at work. I don’t know, but it’s weird and troubling and it doesn’t belong at work. You should feel free to call him out on it every time, which will make him look even weirder if he insists on continuing. You might also point it out to your boss. I’m guessing she’s noticed, but saying it out loud might nudge her to address it herself. You may also like:our summer intern won't use first namesthe men in our office use the women's bathrooms ... only for poopingmy coworker won't speak to female customers if they're with a man { 452 comments }
speed round — submit your questions by Alison Green on August 27, 2024 Tomorrow is the Ask a Manager speed round! On Wednesday from 2-3:30 pm ET, I’ll be answering as many questions as I can live on the website during that time. To submit a question in advance, use the form below. These will be short answers, obviously, so this is better suited for questions that don’t require lengthy, nuanced replies. The speed round has now happened (you can read it here) so I am closing this form. You may also like:our new phones have fewer speed dial buttons and everyone is freaking outmy boss says I don't respond to people quickly, but I doI told a coworker I was “disgusted” with her, a wet Speedo on the office door, and more { 21 comments }
can I secretly book time off for my partner to take her on a surprise trip? by Alison Green on August 27, 2024 A reader writes: I’m looking to book a birthday getaway for myself and my partner in the next few months. It is nothing extreme, just a long weekend away that might require a Friday and a Monday off. I’d like to keep it a surprise until the week of the getaway. Would it be inappropriate to reach out to my partner’s line manager (who I do not know but do have an email for) to ask her to pre-approve the necessary leave for her? Alternatively, I could reach out to her colleague (who I do know), who would then ask the manager on my behalf. I don’t wish to overstep any boundaries by doing this, so I just wanted to check it was an acceptable thing to do. As a manager, this kind of request from a partner (or from a coworker acting on the partner’s request) would make me really uncomfortable. Here’s why: * I don’t know if my employee wants to spend her time off that way. She could be saving it up for something else later in the year and I’m not comfortable overriding that decision for her. * In a lot of jobs, planning for time off involves real planning, not just lining up someone to cover for you — for example, finishing a draft early since you won’t be here to finish it later in the week, getting a colleague the numbers they’re waiting on, moving meetings around, or even just knowing not to tell a client you’ll call them that day. Keeping it secret means none of that work can happen, or someone will have to manipulate the situation to devise reasons for why those things need to happen. * I don’t know what the state of your relationship is. It’s probably fine, but what if your partner doesn’t actually want to take a trip together right now? What if you’ve been bugging them to take this trip with you and they’ve been using work as an excuse not to, and won’t be thrilled to discover you’ve circumvented that without their okay (while docking their accrued vacation at the same time)? Again, this probably isn’t the case but I don’t know and it’s not my business. Ultimately I just don’t have any business deciding whether or not one of my employees will want days off that they don’t even know are being requested. There’s another way to do this though! Can you instead ask your partner to take those days off for a surprise you’re planning, without explaining the details? Yes, it’ll give a little bit of it away, but it’s a better way to do it when someone else’s job is involved. You may also like:company is planning a secret overnight trip, lying to clients about freelancers, and moremy boss and my employee won't stop asking me to spend the night at their housesmy team is super into tarot cards, the Secret, and sharing our personal "visions" { 410 comments }
survey asked about my boss’s mental health, avoiding a bone-crushing handshake, and more by Alison Green on August 27, 2024 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. Survey asked how my boss communicates about her mental health My supervisor at work is participating in a company-run training program aimed at helping managers improve their management skills. As one of her direct reports, I’ve been invited to take an (anonymous) survey to provide feedback on her managing style. I get along with her and generally think she’s a good supervisor, so I figured it’d be an easy survey — but then I came to the question where I was told to rate how well she “communicates about her own mental health and wellness in an authentic way.” This is weird, right? I’m not totally off-base on this? We have a good relationship and chat about things in our lives, but I wouldn’t want to share details of my mental health with my supervisor, and would probably be pretty uncomfortable if she started sharing hers with me. It feels more like it would foster bad boundaries than a professional relationship. But how do I respond to a survey where it seems clear that that’s an important metric to evaluate her performance? I do think she’s a good supervisor and want to reflect that — and I also don’t want her to be told she has to talk more about her mental health because I don’t want that to become a part of our meetings. Do I give a middle of the road response? A “not applicable”? Should I mention in the free response section that I don’t think it should be part of the survey? Yes, that’s a weird and inappropriate question. I would either give her the highest rating (because for you, the way she is handling the topic is working well) or a N/A. And then yes, explain in the free response section that you believe everyone deserves privacy around their health at work and appreciate your manager for respecting appropriate boundaries. Unfortunately, employers keep going off the rails with this. Yes, it is healthy to acknowledge that we’re humans with a range of emotions, and it is good to destigmatize mental health issues. But expecting managers to communicate about their personal mental health is invasive and inappropriate, and many people really don’t want to be on the receiving end of those communications. Employers who want to promote mental health have lots of non-invasive ways they can do that: offering good mental health coverage as part of their insurance plans, being flexible with time off, building awareness of what types of accommodations are available, offering strong employee assistance programs, and being thoughtful about much stress employees are expected to take on. But that takes real resources, whereas a survey question like this doesn’t. Related: forcing employees to talk about their feelings isn’t good for our mental health 2. Can I wear a brace to avoid handshakes? In a few weeks, I’ll be attending an in-person meeting with my company’s founder and former CEO. I’ve met him twice before and both times, he’s shaken my hand so hard that it hurts. The second time it reactivated a minor hand injury I was dealing with, which had been from another handshake a few weeks prior. (As an aside, why do people ever shake someone’s hand that hard?) He’s a nice guy, and I’m a woman, and I don’t get the vibe that it’s a power play. It just feels like the legacy of the “firm handshake” advice and a dude not knowing his own strength. I don’t feel like I have the standing to pull the founder aside and ask him not to shake my hand so hard. Plus, he hasn’t remembered me twice, and I’m very low-level at the company — I’m pretty sure he’ll want to re-meet me and shake my hand immediately, before any aside-pulling can happen. But when I was dealing with my handshake injury before, people reacted weirdly to me not shaking their hand when they went offered it. I got puzzled looks, and people weren’t sure what to do with their outstretched hand. Can I wear a hand brace to make it more visible why I might not be shaking? And what’s a good alternative gesture to do when people try to shake my hand? You can indeed wear a hand brace if you want to! But it’s also fine to just say, “I’d shake your hand but I’m recovering from a hand injury.” If people look a little puzzled, it’s probably not because they think you’re breaking the social contract in some way; it’s likely just their faces processing “oops, I’ve got my hand out and now need to retract it.” You’re fine! People have hand injuries. Or they’re sick and doing everyone a favor by not shaking hands. It’s not a big deal as long as you’re matter-of-fact about it and make a point of being otherwise reasonably warm. Related: chill out with the bone-crushing handshakes 3. I end up doing more work than my less organized coworker I work in a team of four. My workmate Lucy and I are both part-time, have the same job description, and are paid the same; the other two are full-time and do different jobs. Our manager, Sarah, often allocates work to me and Lucy without specifying who will do what, e.g., “can the llama groomers pick this up?” Lucy is a great person and we’re friends outside of work. However, she really struggles with organizational skills (she has ADHD and is very open about it) and I have strong organizational skills. So in practice, when something is assigned to the two of us, I usually end up making it happen. I’ll often ask Lucy to contribute to it in specific ways (“can you order more llama shampoo before Friday?”), but even then I usually have to remind her, sometimes several times. On occasion I’ve just done her part myself (checking with her if that’s okay) because it’s less stressful that way and means the job will happen on time. I find myself getting resentful of the situation. I’m paid the same as Lucy but organize much of our work. Sometimes I feel like I’m her de facto manager, but I’m not her manager and I’m not paid to be her manager. Meanwhile, our actual manager is quite hands-off once she’s assigned a job to us (I’m sure she’s aware that so much of it ends up falling to me, but this is never explicitly acknowledged). I think I’m taking on too much responsibility for things, both in terms of work and emotionally. How can I change this? Is the work usually something where an entire assignment can be handled by one of you rather than each person taking different parts of it? If so, it would be a lot easier for the two of you to switch off who takes the full assignments, rather than splitting them into multiple tasks (which you then end up organizing). Ideally when new tasks come in, you’d be able to reply, “I’ll take this one” or “Lucy will take this one” and then wash your hands of the latter entirely. (Even more ideally, Lucy would be speaking up and say “I’ll take this one” half the time, and you can ask her to do that — but if realistically that won’t happen, ask her if you can coordinate this type of system so it’s clear who’s taking what.) If that doesn’t work, you should talk to Sarah and ask her to assign projects to one or the other of you but not both. Explain that under the current system, you end up feeling responsible for all the work rather than only your share of it. If that doesn’t work, make the case that you should be paid for the role you’re playing in managing the work (and ideally given a title that recognizes that too). 4. My coworkers want me to tell them why a colleague was fired I work in the financial services industry, which is highly regulated by multiple self-regulatory and government bodies. Recently, a senior teammate was let go for gross misconduct with regard to compliance with regulations, in part because I had to report them. I feel terrible because I don’t want anyone to lose their job, but I am legally required to report the misconduct or I could also be fired plus face criminal and civil penalties, including being barred from the industry. I’m now responsible for telling clients that this person is no longer with the company (without any details, obviously). That’s tough but manageable, and I’m able to navigate that with minimal management-level interaction, save the occasional client that needs a call from my grandboss, who is expecting and willing to take on those difficult clients as part of the transition process as we replace the former coworker. The problem I’m facing is that coworkers on other teams are … perhaps too curious and, in some cases, active shit-disturbers, and have attempted to corner me into telling them in detail what happened. I cannot, and would not, tell them any details, and have directed them back to management with any questions they may have. Most have taken the hint but several (more than six) have not and have been calling, emailing, sending IM messages, etc., even calling my personal cell phone after hours to ask invasive and inappropriate questions. I let my manager know about this and they are taking it seriously. However, it’s only been a week but the questions haven’t stopped and I received a text message on my personal phone at midnight on Saturday asking me for “the hot goss.” Should I also go to HR about this, as well? I’m not responding to these messages at all on my personal devices, and I’m continuing to redirect to management for questions, but what in the world?! Any advice is appreciated. You don’t need to go to HR, unless you want more back-up. You could! It wouldn’t be weird to. But it would also be fine to ignore the messages that people shouldn’t be sending in the first place, or to respond with, “I’m not allowed to discuss it and you’re putting me in a difficult position by continuing to ask. Please stop.” 5. Candidates say I didn’t call for our schedule phone interview, but I did I am at my wits’ end. Some of the recruiting I do is high volume. Lately, I have been experiencing an increase in candidates claiming that I did not call them for our scheduled phone interview. When I call, if it goes to voicemail I always leave a message. In the past week or two, I have had several candidates state they did not receive a call or voicemail. I feel like it is an argument. How do I handle this? Sometimes it is the second call I’ve made after we rescheduled and they still do not answer. First, when multiple people are telling you that an odd technical thing is happening, especially in a short amount of time, it’s always smart to confirm that there’s not actually a problem on your end (including checking your call history for the possibility that you’ve called the wrong person, especially since you’re dealing with lots of calls). But assuming you check and it’s definitely not you, you don’t need to argue with people. You can say, “I’m sorry to hear that! I did log a call to you at 4:30 pm yesterday, but voicemail can be strange. In any case…” What comes next is up to you. If you’re still willing to interview them, suggest a time to reschedule for. If you’ve moved on (or if they’re handling the call in an unprofessional way that leaves you uninterested in rescheduling), you can say, “We’re no longer interviewing for that role, but I’ll reach out if that changes.” Also, when you confirm a phone interview time, you could include language like: “If you haven’t heard from me by five minutes past the scheduled time, please call me directly at (number).” Or you can ask that they email you, or so forth — just something that lets them know how to handle it if they don’t hear from you when they expect to. That will put a rest to the debate about whether you called or not, since it will move the ball into their court with a clear action and timeline for them to take that action. And if they’re just forgetting about the call, that will make it clear. That might be more complicated than you want or need; if so, just stick with the advice in the first paragraph and ignore this one. 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when you’re accepting a job offer, should you get any extra promises in writing? by Alison Green on August 26, 2024 A reader writes: I currently have an offer for an internal transfer to a different division in my company — same level but new team and scope of work. I’m planning on negotiating the salary offered (using some of your advice from prior letters!) which I would obviously want in writing, but I’m wondering if some of my other asks (number of days in the office, specific hours in the office) should also be in writing? Ultimately, with an at-will job in which case the employer can always change the scope/requirements whenever they want, is there even a point to getting certain flexibilities in writing? For an exempt, salaried position, I’ve never seen work arrangements specified, so would it be reasonable to ask for it to be written as part of the offer? You should get it in writing. That’s not because putting it in writing will make it legally binding. In most cases in the U.S., it won’t. As you noted, employers can still change the terms of your employment at any time (unless you have a contract, which most U.S. workers don’t). But putting it in writing still significantly increases the likelihood that the terms of your employment will be what you agreed to. First and foremost, it protects you against misunderstandings and miscommunications (like you think you’re agreeing to two WFH days a week, but they think it’s up to two WFH days per week, subject to manager approval) or even people just forgetting details down the road. It’s also useful to have a record of the agreement if there are personnel changes — like if a decision-maker promises you a salary review in six months but leaves the company after three months and no one else knows anything about that conversation. They still might not ultimately abide by it, but having documentation of what was agreed to makes it more likely. Second, the act of writing this stuff down can bring misunderstandings to the surface before anything is finalized. For example, if you said X but they understood it as Y, putting it in writing is likely to make everyone realize that you’re not on the same page, thus giving you the opportunity to iron it out before it’s too late. Third, getting it written down can sometimes signal to an employer, “Oh wait, we had better really think this through.” People shouldn’t make promises off the cuff without fully thinking them through, but sometimes they do — which is how you end up starting a job thinking they agreed you could bring your parrot in but then find out it’s a no-go once after they actually check with someone. Just the act of asking to put something in writing can nudge people to make sure they really have all the sign-off’s they’ll need. Some companies are very rigid about what they will and won’t put in an offer letter and won’t budge from their normal boilerplate to add in additional details, even when they’re sincere about whatever they’re agreeing to. If you’re dealing with an employer like that, try simply summarizing the agreement in an email yourself — framing it as, “I wanted to summarize the details we’ve discussed. Would you look this over and confirm this looks right to you?” (And if they won’t even do that much, take that as a sign that the agreement may not be as firm as you thought.) You may also like:I'm supposed to write 23 mini-essays in 24 hours before an employer will even interview meI was promised a raise for doing a lot more work ... and it didn't come throughemployer required me to agree to a salary during our first conversation { 94 comments }
my employee cc’s me on too many emails by Alison Green on August 26, 2024 A reader writes: I’m a director of a busy company. I receive upward of 1,000 emails a day, with 75% of them for awareness only but necessary nonetheless. I have a report who manages a team of nine, all remotely. He copies me on everything — from meeting response notifications to emails to his employees to messages to IT about an employee’s computer issue. I’ve asked him why he does it and he says he wants to make sure I know what he is doing at all times. I told him that I trust him, he does a great job and it is not necessary. Problem is, he still does it. I need to have a conversation with him, but knowing he can be sensitive and already feels like he has to defend his every move, I am afraid it will have a negative effect on our work relationship. However, I need that volume of email to stop and for me to not be so consumed with it. I answer this question — and three others — over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and sometimes updating/expanding my answers to them). You can read it here. Other questions I’m answering there today include: We didn’t hire our intern full-time and I’m worried she’ll be devastated Employees want to work while they’re furloughed Do I owe my friend a personal response on a message I forwarded on her behalf? You may also like:my boss sends scolding emails to all of us -- and then tells me I shouldn't take them personallyare senior execs too busy for spelling and grammar?my colleague's auto-reply says she might never answer your email { 94 comments }