can I take care of my baby during the workday if my job is undemanding? by Alison Green on January 16, 2024 A reader writes: I work for a large company with strong union protections. Because of our union protections, it’s very hard to get fired or even to get a low performance rating, but it’s also very hard to get merit raises or promotions. Compensation is explicitly tied to how long you’ve been with the company. I’ve been at this company two years and because of my low tenure I make about 60% of what my peers make. I’m also totally underemployed. I get excellent performance ratings, and even though I’m full-time I can finish my work in about 10 hours a week. My job rarely requires meetings except for a monthly 1:1 with my boss. I’m expecting my first child in a few months. Our company policy explicitly says that employees must have child care while they are working. But I have so little work to do during the day, and most of it can be done asynchronously. Can I just … ignore the policy and provide full-time care for my baby during the day as long as my work doesn’t slip? I would make arrangements for those days when I have meetings. I really don’t think my boss would notice one way or the other. Aggggh, I hate this question and I also kind of love this question. I hate it because there are conflicting principles in play and I’m not fully comfortable with any of the answers I could land on. I love it because it’s more complicated than it seems on its surface. Here are the conflicting principles, both of which are true: * It’s completely reasonable for your employer to require you to have childcare while you’re working, when your kids are little. Those policies were commonplace pre-Covid, got relaxed by necessity the first couple of years of the pandemic, and are now commonplace again. * When you can finish your work in 10 hours a week while still getting excellent performance reviews and you’re making 60% of what your peers make, there’s really no ethical issue with doing other things with your time as long as it doesn’t interfere with your work. Want to do laundry or scrub your baseboards or binge-watch reality shows? As long as you’re available when your job needs you, I’m not going to tell you that you can’t. (I am going to make sure that you’ve told your boss you’re available for more work, and also that you’ve considered whether there are long-term professional disadvantages to remaining in a job like that. But after that, do what you will.) However, it’s more complicated when the other thing you’re doing with your time is child care. You’ve got to factor in: * Babies and little kids demand attention on their schedule, not yours. You can stop your baseboard-scrubbing or pause your show if a work need comes up that you need to handle. You can’t pause a baby. What are you going to do if they each demand your attention at the same time? A lot of the time, your baby will need to win out — what does that mean for your work? * What if you have a last-minute meeting with little notice and don’t have time to line up child care? In theory you could tell your boss that your child care fell through that day and it’s not your norm, but then you’re lying and you’re also likely to raise some questions in your boss’s head. If it happens a second time, your set-up is really likely to become a question for her. * What if something changes and your job suddenly gets more busy than it is now (like a new boss, a new project, or a busier coworker leaves and their work falls to you)? Finding full-time child care isn’t usually something you can do overnight — in some areas it can take months. Will you be able to change things on the fly if you need to? * What about those 10 hours a week you do need to focus on work? Is it flexible enough that you can fit it in around nap times, or is it likely to conflict with times when your baby is awake and wants your attention? Will you want to fit it around nap times, or will having to do that make things more stressful than they’d be if you had clear, uninterrupted work hours? * Is it healthy to split your attention that way? Some parents find great relief in having a clearly delineated part of their day when they’re not on kid duty and can just focus on adult things. You might end up feeling like you’re short-changing yourself and the baby and your job. * Speaking of shortchanging yourself, will doing this cause you to limit yourself professionally in ways you wouldn’t otherwise? For example, if an opportunity comes up for a project that would be great for your career, will you avoid taking it on because it would complicate your child care availability? If so, you risk harming your career long-term in ways you can’t necessarily see right now. All of which is to say … I’d rather you not do it. (I’d also rather you live in a society that supports working parents and has affordable child care and doesn’t make people make decisions like this, but here we are.) But I can see why you’d think about it! I just think it has more obstacles than you might be considering. You may also like:my coworker is bringing his kid to work and on Zoom calls ... but the rest of us are paying for child carewe need to tell our remote employees they can't take care of young kids while they're workingmy coworker watches a daycare livestream all day { 357 comments }
boss is paranoid that I have a secret email account, voluntary task has suddenly become mandatory, and more by Alison Green on January 16, 2024 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. My boss is paranoid that I have a secret email account I’ve been with a small business for 20 years, handling office duties as the secretary and bookkeeper. The owner, an elderly man who has peculiar habits and is paranoid about various matters, once misspelled my email address on his phone back in 2019. Instead of the correct format firstname@mycompany.com, he added an “A” – firstnameA@mycompany.com. Therefore when he emails me from his phone, he is mistyping my email address. Despite my explaining the mistake and clarifying that it was saved incorrectly on his phone, as well as showing him that he has been mistyping it, every few months he questions how many company email addresses I have (just one!) and accuses me of manipulating the company email settings to create a second, secret address. It’s worth noting that our email server is configured to route all incoming emails, even those addressed to incorrect company addresses under mycompany.com, to his email. He requires that he be CC’d on all incoming and outgoing emails, and insinuates I have created this second, secret email to hide company things from him. I can show him the email server settings that prove each employee only has one account, and prove that firstname”A”@mycompany.com does not exist at all, but he doesn’t understand. His conspiracy theories persist despite the facts, and he can talk circles around me. What should I say? I don’t think there are magic words that will solve this! You work for someone who is paranoid, doesn’t understand email, and thinks that you want to deceive him. The paranoia on its own makes this unsolvable. You’re 20 years in. Has he been like this the whole time or is he getting worse? If he’s getting worse, that trajectory is likely to continue and you could end up in a truly unpleasant situation. To be frank, it sounds like you’re already in one — and I suspect this is a boiling-frog situation where things have gotten worse so gradually that you haven’t looked around and realized how very bad it is. I hope you’ll take this as a nudge to think about what you’d like to come next for you, and what a quality of life improvement it would be to work for someone who doesn’t believe you’re lying and deceiving him. 2. My new coworkers keep talking about how expensive my grad school was I’ve just finished my master’s program, after 2.5 years! About two months ago, I was hired at a city agency. The job is specifically for people who were already in a grad school program for this degree, and on completion of my master’s I get a title bump and a raise. Since I just started this job, I’ve been introduced to everyone in my office (some of whom have the same role as me and also the same degree). Three times now, when I’ve been introduced to a coworker and mentioned what school I’m attending, their first response is to exclaim how expensive my school is. Some context: In my city, three universities offer this degree, two private and one public. Because we’re all working in a city agency and not making the big bucks, many of my coworkers went to the public university to get their master’s. But I chose the private program because they gave me a 50% scholarship! My master’s cost less than the public option, and my university offered evening classes so I was able to work full-time. The result is that I paid off the degree before I graduated and never had to take out loans. I have only shared this with my supervisor and her supervisor — because again, on the first day I met them, one of the first things my grand-boss said was how expensive the private university is. I figured it would look good to my supervisors for them to know I’d been awarded this scholarship, so I told them. I haven’t mentioned the scholarship to anyone else when they bring up the cost, because 1) it would feel like unnecessary bragging; 2) contradicting them in our first encounter would make me feel awkward; and 3) I don’t want to share information about my private finances. But it keeps happening! Literally the cost of my master’s is the first thing people want to discuss when they find out I just graduated (not the specific number, but that it’s expensive compared to the local public university). The next time it happens, should I mention that I went to school for half off? Or just let them assume what they will, that either I had help paying for the degree or I’m drowning in student loans? Is this just idle office gossip and I shouldn’t let myself be bothered by it? I don’t think you need to clarify anything. This is likely to fade into the background once they know more things about you. But given that people keep bringing it up, there’s nothing wrong with saying in response, “Yeah, I had a scholarship or I couldn’t have gone there.” That’s not terribly private info and it sounds like you’re feeling uncomfortable with your colleagues not having that context. You don’t need to get into all the details (that it was 50%, that you worked full-time, etc.) — that’s likely to sound defensive, and you don’t owe anyone all of that. But a brief “yeah, a scholarship made it possible” would probably give you peace of mind that it sounds like you don’t have right now. 3. My voluntary task has suddenly become mandatory I’ve been working as a system administrator for a small company (less than 500 employees) for about a year and a half now. I’m one of four team leaders in my department with no direct reports, so I’m a sub-department of one. Nearly all of my essential duties require a specialized skill set that only I possess, and these duties can’t be placed on the back burner if we want to continue to have a functional system. In fact, my job description has zero language about “other duties as assigned,” and I was told when I was hired that that was intentional. Last summer, I volunteered to participate in a large-scale project with another department that doesn’t require any specialized knowledge but does involve two-hour blocks of time that require a lot of physical and mental stamina. Over the next few months, I was assigned to four different time-sensitive projects that can’t be done without my skill set, and I know of at least two more due to begin in the next few months. I realized near the beginning of the holidays that my workload was becoming unsustainable, so it made the most sense to me to step down from the large-scale project, especially considering the fact that our company hired six temporary staff specifically for this project, bringing the number of participants to twenty-five people. To my great surprise, my supervisor was and is adamant that I continue to participate in this project. I reminded them as diplomatically as I could that my participation was voluntary and that they now have six new staff to help. When that was met with a shrug, I finally asked why one person stepping back from a project that involves the majority of two departments would make a significant impact, they struggled for an answer and just said, “People might not like it.” I was told that the only way I would be allowed to step back from this project is to get a medical exemption, which I’m now pursuing, but my question is this: is it standard for a task/project that was taken on voluntarily to become required without notifying the employee and/or revising their job description? If there was any way for me to continue helping with this project, I absolutely would, but at this point, I’m putting my physical and mental health in jeopardy by trying to juggle it with everything I was actually hired to do. Yeah, that happens. It can be for legitimate reasons, like that once you volunteered they planned around you and it would cause problems (budgetary, staffing, political, other) to have you suddenly pull out. Your manager’s explanation of “people might not like it” doesn’t sound like this is necessarily in the “legitimate reasons” category, though (although who knows what more there might be to it that she didn’t or couldn’t explain). Separately, it’s very common for people to get assigned work that isn’t in their job descriptions (whether or not they have an “other duties as assigned” line in there) and for job descriptions not to be regularly updated. Related: what to do if your workload is too high 4. Would dressing down help me better support my coworkers? I’m a 37-year-old, not unattractive cisgender heterosexual white man. I’ve spent my entire (still-youngish) career in female-dominated vocations and workplaces. This feels completely normal to me at this point, although I try to stay self-aware and reflective about my behaviors at work. I overdress slightly for my job, always have. I’m very good at what I do, but my responsibilities are not overly difficult, nor do I manage anyone. My comfort zone is the Jim Halpert look: dress shirt with sleeves rolled up, khakis, and an unassuming tie. It works for me, I like it, and it helps me distinguish between Work Me and Home Me. I am also regularly assumed to be in charge — or at least much more influential than I actually am. This happens with coworkers of all tenures, community partners, and even just contractors who show up at the building. When addressed in this way, I work hard to redirect or clarify my role. Should I dress down a bit in order to reduce my apparent level of authority so that my coworkers are more likely to be addressed in a way that aligns with their professional status? Is harm happening here? My coworkers and I have joked about this common dynamic before, but now I’m (finally?) wondering if this has been a hint all along, or at least if there’s more I can be doing to support others. I think you’re likely to be assumed to be in charge some of the time no matter what you’re wearing, simply because you’re a man and people are still programmed to assume authority figures are men … but it’s also true that if you’re the only one dressed at “tie” level, that could be contributing. I hate to say that you should change what you’re wearing when you’re happy and comfortable with it … but yeah, if you want to be an ally to the women you work with, it could be interesting to see if anything changes if you dress slightly down. (That said, there can be some amount of value in people who make socially-programmed assumptions hearing a man reject externally-conferred authority and saying, essentially, “Nope, talk to her, she’s my boss.” Is that small record-scratch moment a seed that helps their brain make fewer gender-based assumptions in the future? I don’t know and I’m probably over-thinking it, and in a female-dominated field it might not make a difference anyway … but I think this is more complicated than it looks on the surface.) 5. What to say if interviewer asks if I know my (now fired) former bully Soon I will be interviewing for a position in a different company than I currently am at but one that I have worked for previously, for an entirely different department and location than I worked at previously. The department I’m interviewing for is the same department that my former lead went to. This former lead was not a nice person and bullied me and another coworker for most of the time we worked together. She also was fired from the department I’m interviewing with about a year ago. I don’t have any of the details on why she was fired, but knowing how hard it is to get fired at this company and how quickly it happened, it must have been pretty bad. There’s a good chance that if I get past the first round of interviews and interview with the hiring manager, someone is going to notice that we overlapped and ask if I knew her. I don’t want to lie and say no. But I also want to distance myself from sounding chummy with her because we certainly were not friends or even friendly. I know that it’s probably not very professional to tell an interviewer that I knew her but we didn’t get along. So if someone asks if we knew each other, what’s the best way to answer? “We did overlap some of the time I was there, but I don’t know her well.” You’re not likely to be quizzed on what you thought of her; you’re just acknowledging that yes, you did overlap. You may also like:my employee is paranoid -- can I help or is it not my business?my boss set up a secret email with my name, coworker keeps gushing over her married crush, and moredo employers set up secret "gotcha" tests for job candidates? { 344 comments }
I delay writing back to people and then never do it — can I fix this? by Alison Green on January 15, 2024 I’m off for the holiday, so here’s an older post from the archives. This was originally published in 2016. A reader writes: I have a terrible block when it comes to writing (back to) people. I get very anxious about writing the “right thing” in different situations — when I need to say no (even for a trivial reason like “I don’t have time this week for a call”), when I’m not exactly sure how to answer, when I need to give a critique, or when I need to ask someone for something — and I put it off. Then the longer I wait, the more guilty I feel. In general, I don’t do this with my own colleagues or clients or partners. It tends to happen with others. For example: * When I left a previous job (voluntarily – they didn’t want me to leave) I didn’t let my broader contacts know, only my direct clients, as I was embarrassed that the job hadn’t worked out. * I promised to check around for a contact with any ideas for possible funders of a documentary she was working on, and never did. * I was informally offered a role as a consultant with a network whose work I greatly admire and instead of directly saying, “I’m probably going to be joining another org, but thank you so much,” I said “sounds great!” and never got back in touch. Often I’m not quite sure how to respond and I don’t want to send a less-than-fully considered answer (this is where my perfectionism plays out at its worst, although I am managing it okay in most other ways), but then end up never writing, e.g. I don’t know the answer to a question that’s being asked, I’m unsure of the right words to phrase an email that I’m worried the other person may not like, or even I’m feeling so happy about a piece of good news that an email seems inadequate and I think I should send a card instead but then end up not getting in touch at all, etc. Or I’m avoiding discomfort, e.g. I don’t want to say no to someone asking for funding, I don’t want to say that I don’t have time in the near future to talk with someone who’s asking for a short call, I am reluctant to reach out to someone I haven’t talked with in a while to ask them for a favor, I don’t want to ask someone to do something, I’m not ready to think about whether or not to take on someone who’s asking for an internship for a summer that’s still eight months away… There seems to be a short window of a day or two or three within which, if i could respond, I would be able to do so in a non-anxious way. After that, the guilt at not having responded in a more timely manner kicks in, I then feel like I need to make up for my delay by writing “an even better” note, but since nothing has changed that would make that more likely, I still don’t do it and it spirals from there. Despite this habit, I’ve done well in my career so far, thanks to many advantages, lots of luck, and a good work ethic (other than this bad habit). I currently work on the management team at an NGO working for a cause I care deeply about, and was recruited into my last three jobs based on my reputation or their past experience of working with me. But writing the above out, I’m ashamed. I would be shocked if I heard of anyone else in a senior role in an organization — or indeed anyone who had managed to make it to middle age – acting like this. It’s absolutely not who I want to be either as a professional or as a friend. And yet I can’t seem to shake this habit. First, fundamentally: How can I change this? Can others relate or am I alone in this neurosis? Any advice on helping to get past this block of my own making? Second, for this situation overall: Is it too late? Is there anything I can do to make up for my (lack of) response? I’m fully prepared that many of my relationships will never be the same, but is it still better to reach out anyway? Is there anything I can do to at least partly make amends? Third, practically speaking: What should I say? How much should I try to apologize / explain? There is no good excuse for my (lack of) action. The problem is that my good intentions aren’t translating into actions. Yet it sounds insincere to say, “I’m sorry, please know i’ve been thinking of you” (“if you were thinking of me why didn’t you get in touch?”) And I don’t want the focus to be on me. Yet I feel like I should say something that indicates how sorry I am because I don’t want them to think I didn’t care. What else should I say? Respond to their request even if it’s no longer needed? Say that I was thinking of them and wanted to say hello? Update them on what I’m doing? Offer to be of help in general? Send along an interesting article? Etc. Any advice would be so much appreciated. Thank you so much. You can change this! Can we make this your new year’s resolution? I really do think you can change this, and it will probably be easier than you think once you try it. Some things that I think you’re not accounting for: 1. People are aware that other people are busy! If you respond a few weeks late and say something like, “I’m so sorry for my delay in responding to this — I’ve been swamped and in triage mode, but I wanted to get back to you even though it may be too late,” most people will understand. They’ll appreciate the response, they’ll get that you’ve been busy, and they’re unlikely to think negative things about you. Busy-ness is a known state. If you don’t reply at all, that’s when you’ll seem unreliable. If you don’t respond at all, people will be more likely to think “There’s no point in emailing Jane about this because she didn’t respond last time” or even “Huh, Jane never got back to me, that feels kind of rude.” But responding late — even very late — changes that, as long as you acknowledge the delay and include some kind of explanation or apology. 2. People understand no’s. Really, they do. When someone asks you a favor, 99% of the time they’re aware that the answer might end up being no. As long as you’re nice about it, it’s really pretty normal to say no to things. I suspect you just need the wording to do it, so here are your new form letters: “Thanks so much for thinking of me for this! I’d love to say yes, but my workload is crazy right now, and I’m trying to be disciplined about not taking on anything new. So I need to pass, but the project sounds great and I wish you luck with it! I’d love to hear how it went when you’re done with it.” “I’m in triage mode with my schedule this week and next, to the point that scheduling a call would be hard. I can answer a quick question or two over email if that would help — but if not, I understand and hope you can find the answers you need some other way.” “Thanks for contacting me about this. I’d love to say yes, but I’m fully booked for the next couple of weeks. I’m sorry I can’t help!” 3. Put yourself in the other person’s shoes: If you ask someone for a favor, would you rather hear a “no, I’m sorry I can’t” up-front, or would you rather hear “yes” and then spend weeks/months wondering why it’s not happening and why the other person ghosted you? It sounds like you are putting way too much weight on satisfying people with an immediate “yes” and way too little weight on what happens after that. People care about what actually happens, not what you say will happen. So by saying yes and then disappearing, you are setting people up to be confused/frustrated/hurt/disappointed/angry. It’s like in your quest to avoid a mild flick on someone’s arm (the immediate “no, sorry”), you’re punching them in the gut a month later instead. It’s not a logical trade-off. 4. You cannot go through life ensuring that all interactions with other humans are free of discomfort. You are going to sometimes have to deliver uncomfortable news, or say no, or ask someone for a favor. In your quest to avoid doing that stuff, you’re actually just signing yourself up for a whole different (and worse) type of discomfort — the discomfort you’re feeling now about being someone who flakes out on people. So there’s really no discomfort-free path. It’s just a question of which kind you want. If I asked you to choose between (1) mild, up-front discomfort of saying no/delivering bad news/etc. or (2) long, lingering discomfort of knowing that you let someone down/flaked on a commitment/stopped responding, and now need to feel awkward for months/years about contacting them, would you really choose #2? I don’t think you would, but you’re picking it now by default because you’re so focused on avoiding #1 that you’re not being clear-eyed that #2 is the price. Assuming you want to interact with other humans, you’ve got to pick #1 or #2. There are no other options. Okay, now some concrete recommendations of what to do going forward: 1. First, no, it’s not too late to respond to some of these people. Even if it’s been months, you can email and say, “I’m so sorry I never got back to you about X over the summer. My schedule got overwhelming, and I should have reached out to update you sooner. I’m sorry I wasn’t able to help with this, and I hope the project ended up going well.” (You do not need to then do the work you promised; in most cases, it’s going to be too late to be useful. Although if you’re still willing to, you can say, “Would it still be helpful for me to do X now? If so, I’d be glad to, although I realize the window may have closed.” But don’t offer this unless you’re 100% committed to doing it this time. If there’s any chance you won’t, it’s better not to include that offer.) 2. It sounds like you’re not just declining to say no, but that you’re also saying yes to things you don’t necessarily want to do, like that contact who wanted ideas for documentary funders or the offer for consulting work. I very much know that feeling in the moment of “sure, of course I can do this!” and then realizing later that you can’t or don’t want to. Obviously, you want to get better at thinking things through before you commit to them, but if you do find yourself in that position, in some cases it’s okay to write back and say, “I know I said yes to this, but I’ve realized that my schedule is making it impossible to do it justice. I will definitely let you know if I think of contacts for you, but for now it probably doesn’t make sense to count on me for this.” Obviously you can’t do this when it’s the week before someone’s wedding and you agreed to make the cake for them, but if it’s more like “Bob asked six people, including me, to read his screenplay,” it can be an option. But ideally, you’d head that off by being more realistic right from the start. Some things you can try: Don’t say yes to anything unless you are willing to put time on your calendar right now to do it in the next week. If you’re saying yes thinking you’ll do it at some hazy future point, say no because what you’ve learned is that it’s not likely to happen. (This won’t work for everything, but it’ll work for some things.) If you don’t feel equipped to figure out if your answer is yes or no right now, say that and ask for more time. That person who wants an internship eight months from now? Write back and say, “I won’t be able to start planning for fall interns until June. Can you reach out then and we’ll talk more then?” That job offer you accepted that you didn’t actually follow through on? It might have been better to have said, “Thanks for this offer! I’d like to take a few days to think it over, but I’ll get back to you by Friday.” 3. Stop waiting for perfect. In most cases, people like timely responses more than they like “perfect” responses written several weeks too late. Effectively immediately, take “perfect” off the table as a goal or at least redefine it. For you, “perfect” is “I respond within two days,” regardless of how flawless the content is. In your case, “flawless” ends up meaning “never happens,” so it can’t be in the equation. 4. Set aside 30-60 minutes a day to deal with emails that you’re avoiding. Every day between 9 and 10 a.m. (or whatever you choose), you’re going to sit down and respond to the emails that you’ve been putting off. If you don’t know an answer or don’t have time to fully consider a question, in most cases you can say that. It’s okay to say “sorry, but I don’t actually know” or “I’d need to take more time to think about this — do you want to give me a call so we can talk it through?” And since you sometimes put off emails thinking you’d rather send a card, and the card never happens, permanently take cards off the table as an option. You no longer send cards in this context. You send emails. That’s it. The emails have the big advantage, in that they will actually arrive. 5. You can take a similar approach with non-email stuff that you’re avoiding. I once read about something called “guilt hour,” where a bunch of office mates would meet in a conference room and take turns announcing the undone task they felt guilty about putting off, and then they’d each spend the rest of the hour tackling that task. Have your own guilt hour. This is already a long answer and we haven’t even covered everything, but start here. If you really do these things, it’s going to solve a big chunk of the problem. And I think this stuff has its own momentum — once you get into these habits and see how frickin’ nice it feels not to be walking around with tasks and guilt hanging over you all the time, it becomes self-reinforcing. It’s easier to keep making these choices when you see that they leave you feeling good, not bad like the previous methods did. Try it and tell us how it goes? You may also like:my favorite posts of 2018how to write a resignation lettera coworker stole my spicy food, got sick, and is blaming me { 187 comments }
I had to share a bed with a coworker on a business trip by Alison Green on January 15, 2024 I’m off for the holiday, so here’s an older post from the archives. This was originally published in 2016. A reader writes: Some coworkers and I recently went on overnight travel, and the plan was to have us split two hotel rooms. Sharing a room with people I work with is less than my favorite thing, but we’re a nonprofit, and it has been decided that this is what we’ll do to save money, so I grit my teeth and vent later if needed to friends and family. I expected this trip would follow the standard room sharing format, and that I would probably be the one who ended up sharing a room with my boss. However, there were some unexpected changes that ultimately resulted in three people sharing one room with two beds. Those last two points I did not realize until the moment we walked into the room. My stomach dropped when I saw the beds. As the more senior of the two, I quietly told my coworker to take the extra bed for themselves; through what remaining crumb of fortune there was, it ended up that I shared a bed with Coworker instead of Boss. I hope it doesn’t require much explanation to convey how very, very upset I was to have to share what amounted to every last inch of personal space. It’s bad enough to lose any potential downtime during these trips because I am sharing a room with a coworker who usually is more interested in continuing work conversations late into the night, or who snores, or who talks in their sleep, or who gets up an hour before I need to, or who simply by virtue of their presence means I won’t be able to take my brain out of work mode after a 12- or 14-hour day. But to share a bed?! There is a very, very short list of people who I want to share a bed with, and no matter how much I will ever like the people I work with, they will never, ever be on that list. I have enough things to worry about on these trips. Kicked or being kicked by my coworker as we toss and turn, or not being able to actually sleep because there is a strange person in my bed, should not be one of those things. To me it is so incredibly obvious why you should NOT EVER SHARE A BED WITH A COWORKER. However, when I made a comment about it just as an aside to my coworker, Coworker replied wondering why bed-sharing was a problem, and I found myself at almost a complete loss for words to explain why this was so out of bounds. My manager never made any comment about the room or beds, either, and I suspect that they saw nothing wrong with the arrangement. I plan to bring this up with Boss, but I’m having difficulty on finding words that would be effective when I’m the only person who seems to find what happened unreasonable and unprofessional. Seeking advice from friends and family doesn’t bring my phrasing out of the “apoplectic” category. Do you have any advice you could share any advice on how to bring this up like a calm and reasonable adult? Your letter has given me nightmares. Under no circumstances is it reasonable to expect you to share a bed with a coworker. Good lord. Was the front desk not willing to send up a cot, at least? In any case, yes, yes, yes, speak to your boss. Say this: “Somehow on our last trip, Jane, Lucinda, and I ended up booked into a room with only two beds, and Jane and I ended up having to sleep in the same bed. I don’t know if it was intentionally booked that way or if it was a fluke. I’m not comfortable sharing a bed with a coworker, and I’m sure others aren’t either. I want to make sure we’re not intentionally booking people that way. Also, if it somehow happens again, I want to make sure it’s okay for me to expense a separate room at the hotel for one of the people.” I don’t think she’ll push back too strongly because sharing a bed with with colleagues is not normal (despite your coworker’s weird stance), but if she does, say this: “I’m just not comfortable with it and don’t want to do it again.” If necessary, you can add, “Sleeping in the same bed as someone is an intimate activity, and we can’t require employees to do that.” This is a reasonable position to draw a line on. As for the room-sharing, separate from the bed-sharing … It is indeed true that there are some industries where sharing hotel rooms is the norm, like academia and some nonprofits, but frankly I think there are times when it’s reasonable to push back on that as well. I come from nonprofits too and I get the desire to be responsible with money — and I shared some hotel rooms with coworkers in my 20s, so I know that it’s a thing that happens although Never Again, Holy Hell, No, Never Again — but there’s a point where it’s just not reasonable to ask that of people, especially senior people, and especially on particularly draining trips or when there would be three of you (!) in the room. You know your organization best so you know if there’s room to advocate change there, but I wouldn’t write it off. But sharing a bed? Sticking with a flat “I’m not comfortable doing that again” is the way to go here. And then follow through — if you ever find yourself in that situation again, pick up the phone, call the front desk, and get an additional room. Part of business travel is that you sometimes need to adjust your travel arrangements on the fly, and discovering that you’ve been booked into an intimate slumber party certainly qualifies as a good reason. 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boss is upset over flowers, coworker keeps hitting on me, and more by Alison Green on January 15, 2024 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. I got flowers for an employee whose mom died — and my boss is hurt I just had a bizarre conversation with my supervisor. Her grandmother, who was 102 years old, passed away a few weeks ago. I offered her my sincere condolences when it happened, both verbally and in an email. A couple weeks afterwards, someone I supervise lost their mother very suddenly and at a fairly young age (this employee is in their 20s). My co-team lead and I had flowers sent to this person we supervise. I asked my supervisor if she would like to contribute, and she said no, that she is still grieving her grandmother. I thought this was a little odd to decline to contribute, but whatever. My co-team lead and I sent the flowers. Well, today my supervisor pulled me into a conference room and told me that she was taken aback that I would ask her to contribute to flowers for my team member, when she had lost her grandmother a few weeks ago and I had not gotten her anything. I told her that I have always thought that monetary gifts should trickle downwards, and also while other folks on my team have had losses throughout the time I have supervised them (including grandparents), I thought that the loss of a parent warranted an extra degree of care. I reiterated that I was sincerely sorry about the loss of her grandmother. She took this as me saying that the loss of a parent is more significant than a grandparent (I mean, I think in many cases it is) and that while she doesn’t expect gifts, it was inappropriate for me to ask her to contribute. She also said that gifts should be given evenly, regardless of if you supervise someone or they supervise you. We ended up not really agreeing or coming to a great conclusion. I should add that I work in government, so there is no administrative budget for gifts like this. Things are kind of done on a team-by-team basis, and contributions come from individual resources. So did I make a huge misstep here? Should I have gotten my supervisor flowers, and should I also be getting flowers for everyone on my team who loses anyone? Just stop the gifts entirely? Only cards? And, how should I move forward with my supervisor? Your manager is being weird. Maybe it’s because she’s grieving, or maybe she’s always weird; since you know her, you’ll probably have a hunch which of those two it is. It’s typical for the loss of a parent to be treated differently than the loss of a grandparent (with some exceptions, like if the grandparent raised you) and in fact, many/most bereavement policies do treat those losses differently (offering more days off for an immediate family member such as a parent). It was not inappropriate to ask if she wanted to contribute to the gift for your employee. It also was not inappropriate to not get flowers for your supervisor when her grandmother died; the relationship is different and, as you point out, the reporting relationship is different. You definitely should have offered your condolences, which you did. As for whether to do cards, flowers, or nothing for people you supervise in the future: Do cards at a minimum. Flowers can be tricky because then you do get into needing to decide which deaths “warrant” them and which don’t, and you won’t always know the nature of someone’s relationship with extended family. So I lean toward either sending flowers for anyone who reports to you who experiences a death (which might be hard to do when you’re paying for them yourself each time) or just sticking to cards for everyone. As for your manager, don’t ask her for contributions to future gifts, given the weirdness around this one. 2. A coworker I barely know is hitting on me A few months ago, we hired a new person into a lower level position in the company. I’m several levels above him, but he doesn’t work directly on my team. I’ve probably had less than 10 interactions with him. Most have been directly work-related, but we’ve also had a few friendly, casual conversations in the office. A few weeks ago, he sent me a email asking if I’d like to check out a new restaurant over the weekend. This seemed out of the blue. I politely declined and said I had other plans but to let me know if he liked it. This is where I probably went wrong, and I should have shut him down more firmly. Recently, he sent me another message with his personal number and asked if we could start talking offline. We’ve had really limited interactions in the past, so I’m not sure where this is coming from! I’m not interested in dating anyone from work. Even if I’m reading too much into this and he’s just interested in a friend, this was the wrong way to go about it. I’m uncomfortable at this point and want to politely but firmly tell him to back off. I could really use some help on how to deliver the message! You didn’t go wrong when he suggested he let you know how he liked the restaurant. He went wrong when he didn’t respect your first soft no (something that’s really important to pay attention to when asking someone out in a work context). Some ways to respond to the second overture: * “No, thank you.” * “I’d rather keep our relationship a work one.” * “No, thank you. I try not to mix work and personal relationships.” * “I don’t date anyone from work.” (With this one, there’s a chance he’ll accuse you of misinterpreting his interest — not because you did, but because some people feel responding to rejection that way helps them save face. That’s fine! You’ll have delivered the message regardless.) * Or just ignore it if you don’t feel like dealing with it head-on (although that means he might make a third attempt). If he takes a rejection badly or if he continues his pursuit, talk to HR. Even if you feel you can handle it yourself, guys who hit on colleagues they barely know tend to do it to multiple women (including those with less power, like interns, who may feel less comfortable shutting it down firmly), and it’ll be useful for HR to be aware in case it becomes a pattern (or already is, for that matter). 3. Sharing photos and hobbies in meetings when I’m more private I am concerned about my participation in team meetings. We are often asked to share photos of our holidays and weekends and talk about what fun things we did. Of course, this is entirely optional, but I never speak up because I don’t have anything to add. My hobbies feel personal to me, and honestly, they’re not something I’d want to share with my coworkers anyway. I spend my weekends searching for good deals on alternative fashion items via overseas auctions, writing fiction, and playing video games. I don’t have children, and I rarely travel. I am the youngest person on my team (but still very much an adult), so I feel like there’s almost an expectation for me to have a “robust” social life, but I usually just stay at home with my cat. I am perfectly fine living this way! Is there a way to participate in these meetings more without revealing too much of my personal life? Do I need to get a neutral, safe hobby, such as cooking or biking? I am afraid it is making me look bad if I am silent, especially on such a small team. Are you up for photos of your cat being the thing you share? Pet photos go a long way toward adding the humanizing touch of warmth that people are usually looking for in this context. Share a cute cat photo each week, and it’s highly likely that no one will notice or care that you’re not sharing anything more personal. Also, you may not feel inclined to do this, but it can be very enjoyable to lean into an enthusiastically-delivered “I didn’t do a thing this weekend! I stayed at home with my cat and it was glorious” narrative. I have been saying this for years and people are normally more supportive than you might expect. If you do it a lot, it does tend to become a thing you’re known for (in a funny way), which you might or might not be up for, but it’s good for your quality of life not to feel pressured to report on more exciting doings. 4. I was promised a bonus but am getting ghosted when I ask about it I’m an executive at a finance company which serves a rather niche market. I have been at my company for about two years. There was an area between sales and the underwriting team that was proving to be a challenging disconnect, so I made some suggestions on how to improve that and was asked to set up a whole new division and team. Mind you, I was doing this on top of my regular job. I approached my leadership about appropriate compensation for this and they indicated if the new team was successful, there would be a substantial bonus paid out to me based on what I could bring to our bottom line. Well, the success is clearly there. We’re expanding the team, it’s become a marketed part of our services to clients, and has helped increase our revenue by over 30%. I approached my leadership to discuss the bonus and I’m more or less being ghosted. Other items are being addressed together, but they aren’t acknowledging the promised bonus in any way. No “let’s have a chat” or “we need time to discuss in leadership.” It’s very frustrating. How do I approach this again? I am genuinely prepared to leave my job if they back out on this (I’ve been fending off other offers for months now) but I’m not sure if threatening to leave is the right way to go. If I do end up leaving, I will absolutely be bringing this up in my exit interview. How can I make it clear this can’t be ignored? I don’t like this. Address it head-on: “You told me in August that if the new team was successful, you’d pay me a bonus based on what I contributed to the bottom line. By any metric we envisioned, I think I’ve met that mark: we’re expanding the team, it’s become a marketed part of our services to clients, and has helped increase our revenue by over 30%. Can we nail down details about the bonus?” If they put you off, ask for a timeline. And if they’re evasive, there’s no reason you can’t say, “I’m really disappointed in this. This was a clear promise made to me and I’ve been turning down other offers for months because I took you at your word.” (And if it has to come to that, I’d be inclined to leave anyway once they do pay it out because you shouldn’t have to push them so hard to get what they promised you.) 5. Executive with no online presence — is it a scam? I’m job searching for an executive level role and was contacted by a seemingly legitimate internal executive recruiter at a well known global company. I completed introductory interviews with this recruiter and the hiring manager (VP level) over the past few weeks and believe they went really well. They both appear to have company email addresses and their LinkedIn profiles didn’t raise any red flags for me (500+ connections, VP has nearly 2,000 followers). I just received an email and text from the recruiter about next steps, and the next person they want me to interview with is an SVP. Great news, except when I looked them up on LinkedIn they have basically no presence. Under 10 connections and followers — which doesn’t seem possible in this day and age. This global company has thousands of employees and this person holds a global SVP leadership role. I’ve also conducted a Google search with almost no results. Under 10 LinkedIn connections and no press to me are huge red flags, and I am considering backing out of the whole process immediately over it. The job seems incredible, but there is no way in my mind that this could be legitimate. I emailed the recruiter and called her saying that I want to ensure I’m prepared for the interview but I can’t find an online presence for this SVP and to please share more information. I also asked her to lay out the reporting structure to their leadership team, which I found online. I’ve given the recruiter my resume and cell number only, and had a video interview. My mind is racing over if this is a scam, and since it seemed so great I’m heartbroken. I’ve heard about people who use voice and video recordings to impersonation purposes. What are your thoughts on this and how to proceed? You are reading way too much into the lack of an online presence. Some people don’t use LinkedIn. Or maybe they set up years ago and haven’t bothered returning to the site since then. Maybe they just joined last week. Maybe they’re in the middle of purging their account because they find LinkedIn a depressing wasteland. Who knows. It’s not so unusual! You are having a very, very strong reaction to a very mundane situation. You may also like:my boss collected money for flowers for me ... and then kept it for herselfmy boss refused to send a dying coworker flowers, people keep stealing food for meetings, and moremy employee fired someone whose mother had died the night before { 478 comments }
weekend open thread – January 13-14, 2024 by Alison Green on January 12, 2024 This comment section is open for any non-work-related discussion you’d like to have with other readers, by popular demand. Here are the rules for the weekend posts. Book recommendation of the week: The Dinner Party, by Brenda Janowitz. Taking place over the build-up to a Passover seder and its aftermath, a family’s matriarch is extremely excited about hosting the rich family of her daughter’s new boyfriend but things go differently than planned. * I make a commission if you use that Amazon link. You may also like:all of my 2022 and 2023 book recommendationsall of my 2020 and 2021 book recommendationsall of my book recommendations from 2015-2019 { 1,218 comments }
open thread – January 12-13, 2024 by Alison Green on January 12, 2024 It’s the Friday open thread! The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on any work-related questions that you want to talk about (that includes school). If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet*, but this is a chance to take your questions to other readers. * If you submitted a question to me recently, please do not repost it here, as it may be in my queue to answer. You may also like:my employee wasn't respectful enough after the company messed up her paycheckmy coworker passes me messages "from the CEO" ... that I think are really from herhere's a bunch of help finding a new job { 1,115 comments }
I was asked to take down a family photo, coworker is working a second job during her hours for us, and more by Alison Green on January 12, 2024 It’s four answers to four questions. Here we go… 1. I was asked to take down a family photo I was called into a one on one with my manager today. Someone anonymous has complained about a photo of my son I have at my desk and has asked management to have me take it down. The photo is a very cute black and white photo of my son at one year old. He has no clothes on but there is no butt or genitalia showing. To me, it’s an adorable photo of my son as a baby. Some anonymous person sees it as pornography. I agreed to take it down, but I increasingly feel angry and attacked. I am the only gay man in our department, and I feel that a woman having a photo of her naked baby with no genitalia showing would not be asked to take the photo down because it was offensive to someone. I feel like I want to defend myself and not just meekly censor my own family photos out of fear for my job. I want to make a statement to my co-workers of some kind to defend myself from accusations of inappropriate photos of my child. I am a very popular and productive newish hire (2+ years). Do I have any recourse? Ugh, I’m sorry. I don’t think you do have any practical recourse, largely because it’s not outrageous for your company’s stance to be, essentially, “We don’t want to get into debates about what photos of unclothed subjects are and aren’t okay, so now that there’s been a complaint we’re just asking people not to display them at all.” (Which is what you’re likely to hear if you do push back.) But I hope you will replace the photo with at least three more super cute photos. 2. My coworker is working a second job during her hours for us — should I send HR proof? My coworker has been using company time by lying about her activities and going to a second job while being paid by our employer for 1 hour a day a couple times a week. I recently verified this as she left her desk calendar (paid for by our employer) on her desk in plain view. I did report this to HR. Is it unethical or a violation of privacy to take a picture of the calendar with her other work schedule to show that this is indeed happening? Thus sending only to HR as proof and no one else? I don’t think it’s unethical per se — as long as it’s being left in plain view — but you will probably look overly invested. The exception to that is if her absences are affecting you (because you need to cover her work while she’s gone, for example). However, if HR wants to investigate this, they won’t need a photo of her calendar to do it; they could simply pay attention to when she’s actually at work and not at work. Related: how can managers spot people who are working two full-time jobs at once? 3. Can I intervene on a coworker’s horrible, hacking cough? I work in a large org as an EA. Due to the way the building is structured, I share an office with around six other people but am not on their team. My boss has their own office next door to ours so I can greet their visitors, etc. One of the office colleagues, Jim, is a cigarette smoker and has a very unhealthy, phlegmy-sounding cough that goes off multiple times a day, at length. This was the case before Covid lockdown and after we returned to the office. I find the noise incredibly intrusive and distracting, and my boss has picked up on it herself and also picked up on my discomfort with it. I’m autistic so find noise intrusion very difficult; my boss is supportive and I can wear noise-cancelling headphones in the office when I’m getting on with work (although I can still hear the coughing!). But I recently appointed an assistant who sits behind me so I can’t hunker down under headphones anymore as I want to be present for them and open to being asked queries without them having to get my attention or feel like they’re being ignored. With my headphones off again, I’m finding the coughing absolutely unbearable and have occasions when I have to exit the office because I can’t keep listening to it. I’m worried I’m not hiding my reaction to it well and that I’m going to snap at Jim in the end or cause an ongoing issue with him. Do I have any scope to speak to his manager about how difficult it is being around the noise and whether Jim is looking after his health? I’m aware it’s absolutely not my place to intervene and I do acknowledge that Jim is the one really going through it, I’m just sitting by and having to listen, but it’s proving to be a real struggle at this point trying to ignore it, and both the cough and my patience are getting a lot worse. You really don’t, I’m sorry. You could have standing to ask about being moved if that’s practical, and if that’s not an option you have standing to talk to your boss about the problems the noise is posing for you and whether there might be other solutions. But you don’t really have standing to complain to Jim’s manager about the cough (there’s likely nothing that can be done about it, at least not something that an employer could direct), and you definitely don’t have standing to ask whether Jim is looking after his health. However, if the headphones were making it more bearable, can you return to using those? You could explain to your assistant that they help you focus and encourage her to IM you or use some other system for alerting you when she needs you. Headphones don’t have to be an inherent block to being interrupted if you stress that you want the interruptions and agree on a system for doing it. 4. Can I ask my boss for feedback on my speaking in meetings? I recently joined a nonprofit organization in a comms role fresh out of college. My manager often wants me to be a part of some cross-department meetings and contribute my thoughts. The problem is that I’m not a confident speaker and I struggle with phrasing ideas especially since English is not my first language and I’m new to the corporate world. Would it be a bad idea to ask my manager for feedback on my performance in meetings? Not a bad idea at all! It’s great when employees ask for feedback; managers should give it anyway, but you’ll usually get more of it if you make it clear you’re eager for it, and it’s especially helpful to flag it when there’s a specific area you want to grow in. Say to your manager exactly what you said here! You may also like:is it OK to look very different from your online photos?our HR director might be a pathological liarmy boorish coworker dominates all our Slack channels { 676 comments }
my boss renegotiated my new job’s start date behind my back by Alison Green on January 11, 2024 A reader writes: I’ve just given notice to leave a job that I love because my manager has become intolerable. I’ll spare you the details, but for context, this manager (let’s call them B) has a negative reputation in the company and the two previous departures from my team have cited abuse from B as their reason for leaving. I am the third (at least) to quit because of B. Just before I gave notice, an excellent new job opportunity fell into my lap at a different company with a start date at about the same time I was planning to leave. I tried to offer four weeks’ notice and gave up some PTO to ease the transition. B asked me to speak with the boss at my new job (let’s call her C) to ask for more flexibility with the start date. I agreed I would call C, but within an hour of leaving that meeting with B, B called C themselves to try to negotiate a later start date for me. (The field is small, so they are not strangers to each other, but as far as I am aware do not have any relationship beyond passing professional acquaintances.) C called me surprised and a bit shaken to have heard unexpectedly from B, and the start date for the new position was pushed back by a month because of the pressure she felt. I stuck to my original notice of four weeks anyway, because I am confident I can wrap up my work in that time, and frankly, because I am tired of being bullied and was not interested in being cornered into staying longer in a position than I want. HR has been aware of the situation with B from the beginning and has been supportive of me, but upper management is hesitant to take any action despite the ongoing departures. My new role will involve contact with important people in my current organization (though not with B), so I need to maintain a positive relationship with the company while I exit. So, three questions: • Is it completely bananapants for my manager to have called my new boss like that, or am I off-base in thinking this is wildly unprofessional? I could use some validation if I’m right to be upset, or greater context if I’m not. • How do I approach my exit interview? It now looks like I am leaving because this new opportunity came up, but the truth is that I was out the door anyway, 100% because of my manager. Should I be honest about my reasons to leave, or does providing honest feedback run the risk of damaging my relationship with the company, given they are not inclined to do anything about the cause of the turnover on my team? • How do I approach what happened with my new boss when I finally do start the new role? Yes, it is full-on bananapants for your boss to have called another company and tried to push back your start date. Your arrangements with a separate job are none of her business, and that was a wild overstep. If you’d been moving internally, this kind of conversation sometimes does happen. But absolutely not with a separate company. Your old manager and your new manager aren’t two parents arranging a play date for their kids. You’re an adult who makes your own decisions about when you end your work for an employer. (And good for you for doing exactly that and sticking to your original exit date regardless of what your old boss thought she had worked out.) Ideally your new boss would have shut it down when she got the call — saying something like, “That’s really something I can only negotiate with Jane.” But many people find it hard to shut down weird behavior in the moment, and she’s not the one at fault here; your old boss is. Don’t worry about needing to finesse it with her when you start; it might not even come up, but if it does, you can just say, “I’m sorry about that, I had no idea she’d call you and I never would have okayed it had I’d known.” Also, do you still want your original start date? If so, call up C now and say, “I had no idea B was going to call you and I’m keeping my last day here as (date) for a bunch of reasons. I’d still love to start with you on (original start date) if that still works on your end.” As for your exit interview, if your sense is that your input won’t matter, stick to bland answers. If your company wants real input from people, they should ask for it before people are leaving — and they should make it safe for people to offer and should show they take it seriously when they get it. Occasionally real change does result from an exit interview, but it doesn’t sound like you’ve seen signs of that being likely here. That said, you could certainly say something like, “I think you’re aware of why people are leaving the team, and I’d rather not rehash those issues in detail.” You could also mention your boss’s overstep with calling your new employer and say that it’s “indicative of the types of issues that drove me to think about leaving in the first place.” If you do really want to say more, though, do it as unemotionally as possible; the less emotional you sound, the more credible you’re likely to seem. But I’m skeptical there would be much value in it, given that they already know. Read an update to this letter. You may also like:can I give 2 weeks notice when my employer says they "expect" 4 weeks?should I tell my boss I'm job-searching?how do I give notice to my boss if they're on vacation? { 189 comments }
updates: introduced as my dad’s kid, mentor falsely accused someone on my behalf, and more by Alison Green on January 11, 2024 Here are five updates from past letter-writers. 1. Can I ask coworkers to stop introducing me as my dad’s kid? Last March, I wrote to you about my concerns about how I was introduced in professional settings. A lot has changed since the time I wrote, and a lot has gotten better. Firstly, while I still work at the same firm as my father, it is a different firm. Two of four the attorneys left the other firm I was working at — one on bad terms, one on terms that were slightly better — and the remaining two attorneys decided to start new with a new name and a new firm. I work under the other attorney, and we work really well together. Working with one of the now-departed attorneys was miserable. I think that working remotely can be a good thing, but it doesn’t work in all situations. This was one of those. Almost every court was conducting hearing in-person, and this attorney would insist that either the office manager or I draft motions to allow him to appear remotely or would insist that one of the other attorneys go to court for him. He would call the office and dictate what he wanted written because it “took less time”, and he would complain about everyone else behind their back constantly. Among other things, he thought I was incompetent. I didn’t learn that he felt this way until after this attorney left the firm, but in hindsight, it really affected the way I saw myself professionally. I put a lot of pride into the work I do, and I like to do my job well. I want to make it clear that I don’t blame anyone but him for his conduct, and I hold no ill-will towards any of the people I work with for not stopping him earlier. There were circumstances that I won’t go into that affected how comfortable different people felt speaking up when it came to the egregious things, and a lot of what he did was small enough that we all sucked it up. In any case, this attorney is gone and a problem of the past. As for your advice, it worked really well. I was definitely overthinking everything, and the solution was easy. I’m fairly early in my professional career — being a paralegal was my first full-time job — and given everything going on with the now-departed attorney, I was really hesitant to rock the boat. Because I’m a paralegal, I don’t get out the office a whole lot, so there’s only been one or two opportunities where the attorney I work under has actually introduced me. At one of those, a professional convention my boss was presenting at, a few people actually thought that I was related to my boss, and not my father, who was also there. In short, I was a frog in boiling water asking if hard water or soft water was better. Now, I’m a very happy frog in nice, cold soft water. 2. My mentor falsely accused someone of sexism on my behalf without my knowledge (first update here) A couple months after the whole Bill incident, Bill said he had some news during one of our leadership meetings. It was quite a shock to everyone when he announced he’d accepted a position at a prestigious firm in Asia and would be leaving within the month! His new work is similar to what he did with my company, but his new firm is in a totally different field, so even if he wasn’t moving to another continent, it would be unlikely that he and I will cross paths again. Ironically I happened to be going on vacation to the city where he was relocating shortly after his move and all of my colleagues who heard about it asked if I was going to arrange a time to catch up with Bill…needless to say I didn’t manage to find time for that. Once Bill left, our CEO Belinda assigned part of his portfolio to me because she knew this was an area I was passionate about. It’s been really fulfilling to get to do this work and has gotten me connected to some great people with similar interests to mine. Another big surprise came when Belinda announced shortly after Bill’s departure that she would be retiring at the end of the summer. I realized in hindsight that she had really been investing a lot of time to help me grow into my senior leadership role, which she had personally picked me for. I’m really grateful to her, and her believing in me was a big confidence boost. As uncomfortable as the Bill situation was, the way that Belinda handled it provided a great example for me of how to handle these situations and overall she was a great role model who has really helped shape who I am as a leader. 3. I didn’t receive the company Christmas gift (#4 at the link) I sent an email to HR (since that was the only team I could think to get in touch with), and explained that over the holidays, I didn’t receive the company Christmas gift, and I wanted to take the opportunity to see if my address was correct for them, especially in case something important (like updated insurance cards or tax information) needs to be sent by mail. I got a response a couple hours later where they apologized for the gift not coming, and said they would talk to the person in charge of the gifts and see what happened. I thanked them and then the next day got a response saying that when they were putting the addresses in the order from, apartment numbers on line 2 of the addresses didn’t come over and it affected me and a handful of other employees who didn’t have apartment numbers all on line 1. They apologized again and gave me a $10 virtual Starbucks gift card. Which I do like Starbucks, but I was just relieved to find out it was an accident. 4. HR says we can’t contact a coworker on leave even to find out when she’ll be back (#4 at the link) Our colleague returned from surgery after three weeks as scheduled. We kind of forgot that this even happened until recently when HR ruffled more feathers over something else. At this point, even when HR is doing something reasonable, they have built up such ill will that everyone treats any announcement from them with suspicion. Thank you to Alison and the commenters — we appreciated the validation that HR were the weird ones here! 5. I only have one job on my resume (#3 at the link) I had written in March 2021 about having only one job on my resume, and my various frustrations with it. Nearly two years later, I have a new job! And have gone through a lot of change. I started a new position in the spring of 2022, that was somewhat of a lateral move, but more money, slightly more responsibility, and overall a good change at the right time. I was starting to regain some of the joy in my field that I had been missing for a number of years, and I also started to unlearn a lot of bad habits I had gotten into out of a need to protect myself from supervisors and other leadership that were hostile, or at times just not the right fit for me. And then after about 6 months, after I had moved states, my boss announced she’s leaving! So I became interim director for the department, her supervisor got eliminated as well so it was a whole new reporting line for the department, and it was a very chaotic few months. I had originally not been interested in the director role permanently, but after being in the interim role for a few months, ended up getting asked to stay as permanent, and accepted. I’ve been the permanent director for about 8 months now, and overall it’s been really good. It’s a good use of all my skills, I enjoy working with and building my team up, and we’ve been able to make some necessary changes. I like my boss and other leadership, I feel appreciated and valued for my skills and knowledge, and overall I feel like a different person. Looking back at my letter and the comments, I can recall how frustrated I was with my former employer, and the lack of advancement, or just some recognition of my work. There was definitely a split in the comments that seemed to be along generations, with some people surprised it wasn’t more valued to be in a job for a long time (for the record, I am solidly a millennial). It’s also been interesting being on the other side now, and having to make those hard decisions, and recognizing bad habits that I had, show up in my team at times. I’ve tried to incorporate much of what I’ve learned and be a better leader than some of the ones I worked for, but also have a better understanding of what they were going through! You may also like:I'm a nepotism baby, paying based on where employees live, and moremy mentor falsely accused someone of sexism on my behalf without my knowledgemy boss told me I’m “not a good human” when I asked to be paid for my time { 52 comments }