new vendor keeps sending religious quotes on invoices by Alison Green on April 5, 2016 A reader writes: My department recently started doing business with a company (now in a 10-year contract) that has started putting religious quotes on their invoices. For example, the latest one says “Honor God in all we do.” They’re all about that same level of religious-ness. Some people are uncomfortable signing invoices with religious quotes because they are non-religious, and have likened it to feeling like they signed up to work in a non-religious place but now have religion foisted upon them on a daily basis. Our department has been accused in the past of being the “PC police” and being overly “sensitive” to every little need. We value diversity and inclusion, and those are not just buzzwords to us. This is, in my opinion, the point of having a welcoming and aware work environment full of productive, respected, empowered people. My question to you is, should this be taken seriously enough to risk a long-term contract with a prime vendor? In your opinion, do we have the right to ask them not to include religious jargon on their invoices for services that we pay for? Or should we mind our own business and try to get on with the day? Note that this is a multinational company with a local franchisee that is working with us, so I doubt that the multinational even knows about the religious quotes on invoices. Well, I can’t tell you or your employees how annoyed or offended you should be by this. Clearly you do have some people there who are highly annoyed by it, and it’s pretty tricky to tell people how they should feel on matters of religion, especially when religion is injected into places where they didn’t sign up for it and don’t want it. Personally, I think this falls into the category of “annoying and inappropriate, but not interfering with our work.” But someone else could feel more strongly about it. I look at it like this: First, I don’t think it’s appropriate for a company to include religious quotes on its invoices, unless spreading religion is an explicit part of its mission and they make it clear to clients up-front that they operate that way. It seems especially problematic to do that as a franchisee unless the parent company is aware of it and has signed off. That said, companies do a variety of mildly annoying things that aren’t necessarily worth getting worked up about. And while I know that people have different levels of tolerance around this stuff, “honor God in all we do” doesn’t seem that much more overbearing than “in God we trust,” which is on our money. And I say that as someone who doesn’t think a religious message belongs on our money either, but it might be useful as a way to calibrate your sense of how put off to be by this. So again, to me it’s annoying and inappropriate, but doesn’t rise to the level of interfering with your work — sort of like that one rogue woman in accounting who has religious quotes in her email signature. But if you have people who truly feel more strongly about it than that, then sure, take it up with your vendor. It’s useful for them to hear that not everyone will hear their messages as innocuous or workplace-appropriate. If you go that route, you could say, “We have some employees who really aren’t comfortable receiving religious messages on your invoices, and I don’t want to require them to encounter religious materials in the course of doing their work. Is it possible to leave those off correspondence with us?” This may or may not get you any traction; if religion is an important element to the other company, this may be Their Way, and at that point you’d need to decide whether to take it or leave it. You may also like:can an employer require you to be "sexually pure"?employee says his religion prevents him from using the correct pronouns for trans or non-binary coworkersmy boss wants us to meet with a spiritualist to fix the negative energy in our building { 739 comments }
interns complained about me, I don’t want to help hire my replacement, and more by Alison Green on April 5, 2016 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. Interns complained about me This is my third year hosting student interns for course worksite field study placement. Last week, I was blindsided by students accusing me of unprofessional behavior — everything from being angry that a business associate “hugged her and she’s a married woman” to “she made us sit on the floor.” The latter made me laugh, as I had repeatedly asked these students to go to the conference room to work on their projects and they refused, opting for the floor even over the chairs in my office. I was upset by the call, as apparently these students started complaining on Monday, not to me but to their course advisor, who did not see fit to contact me until Thursday to ask about events earlier in the week. These students misrepresented every aspect of their time at my site and directly lied about some things. With two days left in their assignment, the students were allowed to change sites based on their accusations. I feel the advisor should have called me Monday, with the initial complaint so I would have known the students were unhappy and suggested a reassignment before this escalated to a personal attack, which it did. I found later one student emailed business contacts (info taken off my desk) and shared her opinion of me with them, but the advisor does not want to speak to these contacts about it, saying “I can’t believe that happened.” At this point, I do not want to accept any more students, though this was the first negative experience. I’m uncomfortable with this advisor but do not want to be viewed as vengeful by refusing future students. A student took business contacts off your desk and emailed them her opinion of you?? That’s seriously messed up and a huge violation, and the fact that the advisor isn’t taking that seriously is the most worrisome thing here. Students complaining that you hugged someone who’s not your spouse is bad too, but not nearly as bad as that (which is a measure of how bad the contact theft/email is, not a measure of how minor the hug-shaming is). I don’t think the part about not contacting until Thursday about complaints from Monday is that big of a deal — but the other stuff sure is, especially the first part. Can you go over the advisor’s head and talk to her boss? I’d explain that you’re considering pulling out of the program entirely because of the advisor’s cavalier attitude about the email to your contacts and ask if it’s possible to work with someone else. If it’s not, I think it’s entirely reasonable not to participate in future years. 2. I don’t want to help hire a replacement for a job I hated I work for a small nonprofit organization as the right hand woman for the executive director. Though I knew when I started the job that the E.D. would be a difficult man to work with, after 18 months I have decided there is not enough potential for us to build a good working relationship for me to continue working here. He speaks to his employees in demeaning ways, sexually harasses women in our office, and is unpredictable regarding his work schedule and which of his job duties he is willing to fulfill (there have been pay periods where he has refused to come in to sign checks on the day they were to be distributed just to make a point). In addition, some unspoken expectations have come to my attention that have to do with helping to cover up misspent grant funds and general lack of transparency when it comes to the organization’s financial management. I don’t feel the need to take a righteous stand when I turn in my resignation because I have no interest in seeing the organization struggle or fail. The problem is I think the E.D. will want me to help hire and train my replacement. Given my generally horrible and abusive experience working here, I don’t feel comfortable having any part in giving someone else my bad job (and I have good reason to believe any successor would run into the same issues). I’m expected to give four weeks notice and less would be considered “leaving them in the lurch,” both in my experience of other organizations and here. And each of my predecessors in this position have hired and trained their replacements in that time. The E.D. can’t require that I do this for him before I leave, right? Any suggestions for how I can get out of it? I’m worried that if E.D. feels defensive or accused of wrongdoing, his negative opinion of me could limit my future opportunities in the community where we are based. I’d really like a clean break. He can indeed require that you spend your remaining time trying to hire and train a replacement … but that doesn’t mean that you need to mislead candidates. You can be fairly open about the challenges of the job, without openly trash-talking your boss. In fact, you will do a better job of hiring if you do that, because it’s better for the organization if people self-select out if those challenges are deal-breakers to them. Here’s more detailed advice about how to do that. The sexual harassment part, unfortunately, doesn’t fit neatly into this advice. I think the best thing that you can do there is to urge your colleagues to push back as a group, including taking that complaint to the board (which is your boss’s boss), and to consider being a part of that yourself. There’s safety in numbers, and smart boards will take that information very seriously. 3. Can I send in a second, better cover letter for a job I’ve already applied for? There is a job available at an organization I would love to work for. The position I am interested in is perfect for me. I was so excited when I first saw the posting that I applied right away. I was really proud of the cover letter I wrote. However, after having it peer reviewed, I found it did not clearly highlight my skills pertaining to the specific job. I was really discouraged, so I wrote a brand new one and had it reviewed. The new cover letter received a positive response, and now I really want to re-send it. Is it unprofessional to resubmit a resume and cover letter for a position you have already applied for? Can’t do it. It’ll look weird to say “wait, I want to use this one instead.” You really just get the one shot, and that’s it. 4. Navigating interviews in a wheelchair I’ve been out of work for almost two years while dealing with health issues. I’m now ready to start looking for work again but am facing a dilemma. In order to be out and about for eight to ten hours a day for a commute and job, I’m going to have to use my wheelchair. The thing is, I’m terrible at it. I bump into doorways. I have trouble getting lined up with desks properly. I’ve run into people accidentally — a lot. Plus, I sweat quite a bit while using it, probably a combination of muscles unused to the work of pushing it and nervous perspiration. I think time and practice will help me get better at it, but what do I do for job interviews now? I don’t want to tell people that I’m new at this because I’m afraid that they will unconsciously be judging my health instead of my qualifications. I’d rather appear calm and collected about it, like the wheelchair is just an extension of me. Any advice? By the way, I don’t qualify for an electric wheelchair through insurance and they are too expensive for me to buy right now. Perhaps after I’ve worked for a while, I can afford one, but for now, it’s the regular kind. I would just warmly say, “So sorry — I’m new at this!” Most people are going to be understanding and compassionate. Mentioning that you’re new at it isn’t going to make them think about your health; if anything, it might make them more empathetic to the difficulties of getting around. Any more specific advice from wheelchair users out there? 5. Asking about a job that might appear next year I’ve read that a large grocer, known for often having a teapot department in their stores, will be opening a new store in my community next year. I would be very interested in applying for a job in their store if they are putting in a teapot department, I live in a remote community, have 25 years experience as a teapot maker, and have just been terminated wthout cause for “business reasons”. There are few other job opportunities for teapot makers in this region, and I could hang on here until a job became available next year. My question is: should I contact the company in advance to see if they will be installing a teapot department, and let them know that I live here already and would be interested in working for them? I don’t think it’ll do you much good. First, they may not tell you; second, if they do tell you, their plans may end up changing, and third, most importantly, there’s no guarantee you’d get a job there in a year. Proceed as you would if this weren’t happening, since it’s a pretty remote possibility right now. You may also like:you should be giving your interns mock interviewswe give our interns free housing -- and there are problemsmy intern is way too passive { 308 comments }
can I just send employers my LinkedIn page rather than a resume? by Alison Green on April 4, 2016 A reader writes: When applying for a job, why can’t we send a link to our LinkedIn page rather than a traditional resume? There’s more information on my page than I could ever fit on a one-page resume, and it looks great. Well, because they’re not asking for that. And they’re not asking for that for many reasons: * Most employers want your resume in their applicant tracking system, and most systems aren’t set up to take LinkedIn pages. * Most employers prefer to have things in the format that’s easiest for them, rather than in whatever format applicants prefer to provide. When you’re screening hundreds of resumes, it’s a lot easier to have a consistent format. * The traditional resume format gives employers the info they want quickly. When you say that there’s more information on on your LinkedIn page than you could ever fit on a traditional resume, that’s not necessarily an advantage. Hiring managers don’t want loads of info at this stage; they want to see very specific categories of information distilled down to the key points, so they can get what they need quickly. A resume gives the amount of information they want at this stage. (That said, since you mentioned a one-page resume, do note that you’re allowed to have a two-page resume as long as you’re not just a few years out of school.) * People often put different types of information on LinkedIn than on a resume. For example, you might have accomplishments that your company would be fine with you listing on a resume but wouldn’t want publicly posted on LinkedIn (for example, because it’s a semi-confidential or at least not blare-to-the-world type of project, or because it involves working on some area of company weakness). * Many employers still print paper copies of candidates they’re phone-screening or interviewing, and LinkedIn doesn’t print well. * You can tailor a resume for a particular job posting, which you can’t do with LinkedIn. Ultimately, I think you’re falling into a relatively common trap of thinking about more about what you’d like to be able to send rather than what employers prefer to receive. And at the very start of the process, when they know nothing about you other than that you’re one of possibly hundreds of candidates, they want you to use the system that works best for them. You may also like:should I use a two-column resume?how far back should your resume go?what can I say to job candidates who are stalking me outside of work? { 122 comments }
what does it mean if your boss says you have a “bad attitude”? by Alison Green on April 4, 2016 You might think that if you do good work, that’s all your boss will care about. But most managers care an enormous amount about attitude and interpersonal skills as well. If you’ve ever been told you have a “bad attitude” or an “attitude problem,” that’s a real danger sign for your career, or at least for your current job. Here’s what it might mean. 1. You’re grumpy. A lot. Everyone has occasional frustrations at work, but if your job and everyone around you regularly irritate you and you’re not shy about letting people know it, people are going to dread working with you. If your frustrations impact you to the point that everyone knows about them, it’s probably time to decide whether you can find a way to be reasonably happy at work or whether it’s time to move on. Otherwise, you’ll do serious harm to your reputation and ultimately could even lose your job. 2. You seem annoyed when someone asks you to take on a new piece of work. Trying new things is how people advance professionally. It’s how you increase your skills and show that you can stretch beyond where you currently are. It’s also how people get raises – not at the outset, when you’re first taking on the new work, but later, after you’ve shown that you can do it well. If you reflexively get put out when someone gives you a new task, you’re likely to kill your growth potential, and your manager may start wondering whether you want the job at all. (To be clear, there are times when it’s reasonable to raise concerns with your manager about adding to an already large workload. And if the new work causes a real hardship, such as constant travel, that’s reasonable to speak up about.) 3. You roll your eyes or have other visibly negative facial expressions in meetings. Rolling your eyes isn’t much different from announcing, “I think this is ridiculous.” If it wouldn’t be appropriate to say that out loud, it’s not appropriate to roll your eyes, smirk, or use other facial expressions that communicate a similar message. Nonverbal communication is still communication! 4. You never want to hear that you could have done something differently or better.If you get defensive when you get feedback on your work, you could be doing yourself serious harm. It’s tough to give feedback to a defensive person, and many people will simply stop trying. That means that you won’t get information that you need to grow professionally, which can significantly limit your prospects and your long-term success. Plus, people who do stick it out and keep giving you feedback anyway are likely to resent that you make it so unpleasant to do it. 5. You always have an excuse for why you couldn’t deliver something. Of course things won’t always go as planned, but part of being a strong employee is anticipating obstacles and finding ways to manage around them. If you always cast blame outward rather than looking at what you could have done differently, most managers will be concerned. If you’re always offering a reason that a project didn’t happen or didn’t succeed, and those reasons never involve your own actions, that’s a pattern you should take a closer look at. 6. You have a cynical take on most things at work, and people know it. Constant cynicism can be exhausting to be around, and it can make others reluctant to share it when they’re feeling optimistic or excited. That will poison a work environment over time. Snark might seem funny in the moment, but if it’s your regular M.O., it’s worth considering whether you might be coming across as more negative than you intend. 7. You’re preoccupied with “what’s in it for you.” It’s reasonable to expect that over time, good work should pay off – with better assignments, raises, and career advancement. But the key words there are “over time.” It’s not reasonable to expect to special rewards every time you’re asked to go even slightly outside your routine responsibilities. Doing that is just part of being on a team (within reason, of course). I originally published this at U.S. News & World Report. You may also like:how do I change my attitude toward my needy, frustrating employee?advice for first-time managersam I supposed to thank my boss for paying me? { 142 comments }
my coworker keeps hijacking team meetings by Alison Green on April 4, 2016 A reader writes: I am a department head at a small financial firm. Recently I began hosting weekly meetings for our 25-person business team, which is comprised of other department heads and their teams. For the first couple of weeks, things were going relatively smoothly, but recently one department head has been hijacking every meeting. He shows up late, he stands during the meeting instead of sitting (which isn’t really a problem other than the fact that it is distracting and odd), and he interrupts people’s presentations to interject his own thoughts, opinions, and agendas. One of his team members was presenting last week, and he butted in and droned on for several minutes. These are only supposed to be five-minute presentations and are an opportunity for all of our team members to be heard, not just the outspoken department heads. I can see people slumping in their chairs and disengaging every time he pipes up. The real irony here is that when it was his turn to present he didn’t even remember that he had signed up for that day, so he showed up unprepared. He said that he could just “wing it” and I had to explain to him in front of everyone that I was going to reschedule him so that he could have some time to thoughtfully prepare. He is disrespectful at every turn! To top things off, this week at the end of the meeting while I was dismissing everyone and thanking them for their time and attention, he interrupted me mid-sentence and stopped everyone from leaving to make an announcement. The announcement was only directed towards his team of four and wasn’t even relevant to the vast majority of people in the room. He is my peer, not my subordinate. How do I address this with him? Do I speak to him privately or just shut it down mid-meeting? I don’t want there to be tension that will make everyone in the meeting uncomfortable, but he is being too disruptive to ignore. These meetings are supposed to be fun and energizing and he is sucking the life out of them. Help! I would do two things now, and have a third thing in your mind as possible additional step if you still need it. 1. At the start of the next meeting, set some expectations for the whole group about how you want the meetings to operate. Normally I don’t recommend talking to the whole group about a problem with just one person, but in this case the group is likely to appreciate what you’re doing — and really, it’s a useful thing to do with any new or new-ish group anyway. For example, you might lay out guidelines like: * “We’re going to start promptly on time, so if you do need to be late, please come in quietly since discussions may already be underway.” * “I want to ask that people not interrupt other people’s presentations, and hold any questions until the end.” * I want to make sure we’re sharing air time across the group — if you’ve spoken a lot lately, give others a chance to weigh in.” 2. Be assertive about managing the meeting while it’s going on. This is your meeting, after all, and it’s totally appropriate for you to do this — in fact, it’s your obligation to do this, as it’s part of what it means to run a meeting well. Specifically: * Don’t delay the meeting because he’s late. Wait a minute or two past the start time and then start. If he arrives late, don’t backtrack to repeat for him what’s already been covered; that’s just rewarding his bad behavior and wasting the time of the people who arrived on time. * If he interrupts a presentation, you interrupt him and say, “Actually, let’s hold questions for the end so that Fergus can have his full five minutes to present.” * If he’s droning on, jump in and say something like,“I’m going to jump in here because I want to make sure we have time to get through the whole agenda” or “Let’s actually table that for now so that we don’t get too far off Topic X.” * If he does any more end-of-meeting announcements that are only for his team of four, say, “I don’t think we need to keep the whole room for this, so everyone else can adjourn.” Also, at the start of each meeting, be clear about the agenda and how much time you’ve allotted for each part (“I’ve set aside 15 minutes to talk about our new llama-gram initiative and then Valentina, Bob, and Hercules are each going to present for five minutes on various elements of it. We’ll have 10 minutes for questions and will wrap up at 1:45.” This will give your coworker even less excuse for derailing things, and if he does, it’ll be even easier for you to use some of the the lines above. Doing this is not rude. Not doing it would actually be rude to the other people there, because this guy is infringing on everyone’s time, and you’re the person charged with making the meeting go smoothly. I can guarantee you that other people are looking to you to do this, are hoping that you will, and will be frustrated if you don’t. (In fact, it might help you to look at this stuff as not optional; it’s part of your job as the person running the meetings.) 3. If you do the things above and the problem is continuing, then it might makes sense to talk with your coworker privately outside of the meeting. You could say something like, “I really want to ensure that these meetings have relatively equal air time for everyone (or insert whatever your goal is). I know you have lots of input to share, but I want to ask you hold most of your thoughts and questions until the end if there’s time left, because I need to make sure that others are heard too and that we don’t get too far off our agenda.” But really, by doing #1 and #2 above, you might not need #3 at all. Also, your coworker is a boor. Read an update to this letter here. You may also like:why meetings suck and how to make them useful for your teamhow much talking in a meeting is too much?what can I do about a senior coworker who always misses meetings with me? { 131 comments }
my boss doesn’t believe in migraines, employee cries whenever I give her feedback, and more by Alison Green on April 4, 2016 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. My boss doesn’t believe in migraines I have been a migraine sufferer since my early 20’s (I’m in my 30’s now). I have a medication that helps and can generally avoid my biggest triggers, so for the past several years they have been under control. I have had to call out of work with a migraine only a handful of times in the four years that I have reported to my boss. However, lately my migraines have gotten worse and my medicine is not helping like it used to. I have had to stay home or leave work early due to a migraine four times in the last two months, which for me is a lot. I get very light-sensitive, so being at my computer can make them worse and I also get very nauseated. I have an appointment with my doctor to talk about it and see if I need to switch medicines or do any other kind of testing. Each time, I have called or texted my boss (texting is her preferred method of communication in this case) and her response has been a simple “ok,” versus the few times I have had to stay home due to other sickness, when she would add “Feel better soon!” or something to that effect. While discussing my migraines with a coworker, who also gets them, she commented, “It makes me mad that Boss doesn’t believe that migraines exist.” When I asked her to clarify, she said our boss had told her at one point that she didn’t think migraines were a real thing, just a bad headache. Would you do anything differently about calling in sick for this boss? Get a note from my doctor that I do in fact suffer from migraines? Or just chalk it up to the fact that some people don’t understand them and continue as I have been? I generally have a good relationship with my boss and am the highest performer in my department. I’m frustrated already with my health situation, and my boss possibly not taking it seriously makes me even more frustrated. How ridiculous. I’d just stop telling her the reason for your sick leave; she doesn’t need to know if it’s a migraine or a cold or food poisoning. Stick with “I’m under the weather and will be out today” or “I’m dealing with an ongoing health issue that I’ll have several appointments for this month” or whatever. If you feel like that won’t fly (although it should), you could even just describe the symptom rather than the cause (nausea, for example). Or, you can continue on as you have been and decide that it doesn’t really matter if your boss takes it seriously or not, as long as it’s not impacting anything concrete. (It’s also possible that your coworker isn’t fully accurately representing your boss’ viewpoint, which is worth considering too.) 2. My employee cries whenever I give her feedback One of the people I supervise is “Mary,” a woman in her early 20s. Every time she gets critical feedback (even very mild and accompanied by praise), she turns bright red and starts crying… like, a lot. Tears streaming down her face. Other than that, though, she responds calmly and rationally. She carries a handkerchief and just mops up the tears and continues the conversation. One of the first times this happened, I asked if she was okay, and she said that it’s “just a physical response to stress” and confided that she’s getting cognitive behavioral therapy to learn to control it. Honestly, I think she’s handling the whole thing with a lot of professionalism and maturity. I am her direct supervisor, but she also reports to two of my (male) colleagues, one of whom is a VP in my company. I recently overheard them talking about Mary, saying that her crying is uncomfortable, unprofessional, and “stupid.” Mary is a great employee, and I want to do whatever I can to protect her job and reputation within the company. Should I say something to my colleagues? Should I advise her to say something? How about saying this to them: “I agree the crying isn’t ideal, but she’s an excellent employee, and she’s consistent about listening carefully to feedback and incorporating it into her work, more than many other people are.” (Or whatever — don’t say that last part if it’s not true, of course.) If you’re comfortable with it, you could also consider adding, “You know, there are some real gender-based differences around emotions in the workplace, and I think we need to be really careful about how we talk about this.” This is a little tricky because, well, crying every time she gets feedback is actually pretty problematic. You’re comfortable continuing on in the conversation, but a lot of managers wouldn’t be, and it’s the kind of thing that’s going to generally make people uncomfortable and create the impression that she’s not able to handle stress or challenges. That said, she clearly recognizes that it’s an issue and it sounds like she’s handling as well as possible, given the circumstances, and it would probably be smart to try to shift your colleagues’ perceptions a bit if you can. Read an update to this letter. 3. Is it weird not to meet with the hiring manager? I have been invited to an in-person interview with a really great company — I’m super excited! This comes after a 30-minute call with a recruiter and a 30-minute call with the hiring manager. The recruiter emailed me today to let me know the in-person would last about three hours, and I would be meeting with five different people — four coworkers (one above the role in seniority, two at the same level, and one a step below) and someone from a different department who the person filling this role would work closely with. I thought it was weird that I wouldn’t be meeting the hiring manager in person, so I responded to the email asking if he would be there too. The recruiter responded, “He might stop by if he has time but is not scheduled to meet with you.” Is this weird? As far as I know, this would be the last interview in the process. Is it the last step in their process before they make a hiring decision? If so, it’s pretty weird, and it would give me concerns about your would-be manager, if he’s willing to hire someone after just a 30-minute phone conversation and isn’t even willing to take advantage of you being in their office to talk with you in person. I’d also be wary of taking a job without more of a chance to talk with the person I’d be reporting to. But if there’s another step after this where you’d talk longer with the hiring manager, then this wouldn’t worry me at all. It’s actually a great thing to have an input-from-others stage, as long as the actual manager is going to spend more time with finalists at some other point in the process. Read an update to this letter here. 4. Should I go to an event my boss is being honored at? I work for the CEO of an organization, and she is an officer of an industry-specific organization. Next year she is being appointed the president of the organization (a one-year term). They are in the process of planning the induction party, and my boss invited me to the event. I’m wondering if I’m informally obligated to go? I know they can’t force me, but I’m just looking for whether or not I should? It would be on my dime, mainly gas and a hotel if I chose to stay overnight, so I’m really not worried about that, I’m primarily convened with what the impression would be if I don’t go. I don’t know your specific context, but in general I wouldn’t think so. If it were local, maybe (although even then I don’t think it would weird to have a scheduling conflict). But far enough away that you’d consider an overnight stay? I think you can nicely bow out while congratulating her for appointment. Also, I’m having trouble thinking of any industry organization where this kind of appointment requires an induction party planned a year in advance, unless she’s temporarily taking over the ruling of a small country or something. 5. How likely am I to be a top candidate the second time around? I interviewed with a company this past month, was flown out for an interview cross-country, and everything went well. The recruiting manager then called me and said that while they were still interested in me for the position, they were extending the offer to another candidate who they felt had more experience. I thought that was the end of it, but she made a point to tell me that they are still hiring for more slots in this role but it would be another month or so before they would hire another one. She told me I received nothing but positive feedback, other than my being more junior at the role, and to keep in touch as they were still very interested. While I know that doesn’t mean that I will be hired in a month, if and when they start hiring again, I want to know my chances of still being a top candidate. I plan to follow up in about three weeks to see if there is any news in the process and restate my interest. However, from your perspective, are employers more likely to hire from a pool of candidates they have already interviewed who they liked or would they want to interview more people? The position is still listed on their website (understandable as they would still need a pool of applicants regardless) so I also am worried if I would have to restart the interview process again. It depends. If they loved you and you were their second choice in this round and they’re confident that you’d be their top choice in a future hiring round, then it’s possible that they might just offer you the position. But it’s also very common to interview more candidates; after all, they want to make sure they’re hiring the best possible person, not just the one person they already know about who seems pretty good. There’s really no way to know from the outside, and it’s a recipe for making yourself crazy if you speculate, so I’d just move forward with the rest of your job search and let this play out however it’s going to. Read an update to this letter here. You may also like:my new coworker is the woman my husband had an affair withmy boss won't stop contacting me after my hospitalization, do I use the bathroom too much, and moreexec keeps asking what we've learned today, coworker wants too much help, and more { 416 comments }
weekend free-for-all – April 2-3, 2016 by Alison Green on April 2, 2016 retro Olive This comment section is open for any non-work-related discussion you’d like to have with other readers, by popular demand. (This one is truly no work and no school. If you have a work question, you can email it to me or post it in the work-related open thread on Fridays.) Book recommendation of the week: Olive Kitteridge, by Elizabeth Strout. It’s 13 short stories all linked by one character, and it unfolds so quietly that it takes you off-guard when you realize how absorbing it is. * I make a commission if you use that Amazon link. You may also like:the Ask a Manager book is on sale at Amazonhow to be successful without hurting men's feelingsyes, you are awkward ... and yes, it's okay { 1,089 comments }
emailing condolences to a coworker, my sister-in-law used to have the job I’m applying for, and more by Alison Green on April 2, 2016 It’s four answers to four questions. Here we go… 1. Should I email condolences to a coworker? This morning, our office found out via a department wide email that there was a death in an employee’s immediate family yesterday. This employee will be out of the office for a while, understandably. I am wondering if I should email my condolences to her. We aren’t friends, but I do see her in the halls regularly and we sometimes work on the same projects. Would it be odd or bothersome to email her? I wonder if not emailing would seem cold or unkind. Should I wait a week or so since this just happened yesterday? I’m not sure what I should say if I do reach out. Is it possible to mail a note or card to her instead? I like that better than email in this situation — email is definitely better than nothing, but a note or card feels additionally thoughtful. You could simply say something like: “I was so sorry to hear of the loss of your mom. What a terrible, terrible loss. I wanted to let you know that I’m thinking of you, and you have my heartfelt condolences.” The idea with condolence notes isn’t to find the right words — there are no right words — but simply to say that you are thinking of the person during a horrible time. 2. Mentioning that my sister-in-law used to have the job I’m applying for My small family relocated to my partner’s medium-small hometown from a major metropolitan area about seven months ago. I have been actively applying to various full-time positions while also doing volunteer and part-time work with organizations/companies in my field. A position has recently come open at a granting organization that could be very interesting, but requires a few years less experience than I already have. I’ve known about this job for a long time, as my friend and now sister-in-law held it over 10 years ago, under a previous executive director before moving away from town (side note, to move to the major metro area with is when we first departed for graduate school). I already have a strong application with my professional and volunteer experience but I wonder if I should mention the sister-in-law connection and my familiarity with the work through her? It is quite likely that the director and the departing holder of the position already know or will find out about the connection very quickly. Eh. If the people there are likely to know her, you could drop her name in a “Valentina Warbleworth suggested I reach out to you” way. But you don’t want to imply that you think that knowing a bit about the work through her makes you more qualified (especially since that was more than 10 years ago). But if she does still have contacts there, she could reach out to them to mention that you’re applying and she thinks you’d be great at the job. 3. How should I explain my part-time jobs? I’m a recent college graduate, and am lucky enough to be working a 40-hour work week in my chosen field. However, there’s a catch– I’m working two separate part-time jobs, for two different organizations (one as a part-time employee, the other as a contractor). I’m doing more or less the same kind of work at both, but they’re on different topics– so in both I’m hired as a teapot design assistant, but in one job I focus on chocolate teapots and in the other I focus on vanilla teapots. My supervisors at both companies have said numerous times that while it’s unlikely that they’ll be able to hire me full-time due to financial constraints, they will do whatever they can to help me find a full-time job at another teapot design firm– including not having to give a long notice period if I get the perfect job that wants me to start ASAP. I feel incredibly lucky to be working with two companies I love, with supervisors I respect and admire, but I do want to find something full-time with benefits. Thankfully, I’ve been able to follow your advice about being selective and only applying for jobs that I think I’m a good candidate for– however, I have no idea how to frame my current employment experience when talking about it to employers! I’ve only been employed at these jobs for six months– will I look like a job hopper if I’m applying to full-time jobs now, even though my current positions are part-time? Is there an appropriate way I can explain that my employers are happy for me to find something full time elsewhere, without making it sound like I am not a necessary part of my current offices ( I know that they will have to bring someone on when I leave)? I know that I do very good work (and have had my contracts extended multiple times because of this), and want to make that the focus for employers, not the unconventional work set-up now. I really would like to avoid the job hopper label, due to personal circumstances that will likely demand that I work at a future job for a shorter amount of time than recommended at some point or another. Just explain to employers that both jobs are part-time and each employer knows that you’re searching for full-time work. Having to cobble together part-time jobs to make full-time hours is a perfectly understandable reason for moving on after a short period. It would be different if this were one full-time job; that would raise the question of why you’re already looking to move on after only six months. But in your current situation, it makes perfect sense. 4. Must I disclose my disability when applying for jobs? I had brain surgery in November 2014 to correct a cavernous malformation and developed a seizure disorder as a consequence of the healing process. I’m working with my neurologist to get my seizures controlled with medication, but as a result, every time I have a seizure, I lose my driver’s license for six months. While I’ve started my own home-based editing business, I’m still filling out the occasional job application for editing work. I’m struggling with applications that ask if the applicant has a disability — because technically, a seizure disorder counts as a disability that needs accommodation under the ADA. However, it’s one of those “hidden” disabilities, like mental health issues, and it isn’t readily apparent by looking at me (unless you notice the medical bracelet). Must I disclose this disability when I apply for jobs, or even in the interview process? If I shouldn’t disclose it when I apply, when is the right time to disclose such a disability that would need accommodation? As a note, the kind of accommodation that I would need would be something like time to recover if I were to have a seizure at work, and possibly an altered schedule to align with bus routes (in case I lose my driver’s license again). My seizures are not frequent and are accompanied by an aura, so I am able to get myself to a safe place to make sure I’m not injured if they happen while I’m at a workplace. No, you’re not required to disclose it at any point during the hiring process. If you want to ask about accommodation once you have a job offer, you of course can — but you’re not required to. They’re asking because companies with more than 100 employees and companies with government contracts over a certain dollar amount are required by law to report the demographic makeup of their applicants and employees to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (in aggregate, not individually). Also, if you’re applying for work as a federal contractor or subcontractor, it’s to help them meet a target of a 7% workforce of employees with disabilities. However, answering is voluntary, and you can’t be penalized for not answering. In fact, the law requires that disclosure be voluntary, that refusal to provide it will not subject the applicant to any adverse treatment, and that the information be kept on a form that is kept separate from the application. 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update: my former employer is requiring me to return to finalize my resignation — after I already left by Alison Green on April 1, 2016 Here’s an update from Tuesday’s letter-writer whose employer was trying to make her come back in for a “wrap-up meeting” to “finalize her resignation” after her last day, and was also insisting she’d need to pick up her last check in person, contrary to her state’s law: I thought I would update everyone on my situation as it’s been a bit of a whirlwind. First of all, thank you and all the lovely commenters for all their help and suggestions! So I assumed it was a case of them just not knowing the laws and approached my manager with that in mind. I went with the gentle but firm explanation that I would be unable to come back in for a wrap-up meeting due to a packed schedule and asked that it be rescheduled to sometime before my final day. I didn’t think there was anything offensive about it (or the way I worded it), but my manager seemed put off by my request. She made a comment about not being aware that my schedule would be so packed I couldn’t make time for a 30-minute exit interview. I offered to come in early or stay late if it was a matter of trying to find time that works for everyone, and she said she’d look into it. (I know I probably shouldn’t have made the offer, but to be honest I was a little thrown by her response! She has a bit of a reputation for being difficult, but we’d always gotten along pretty well.) When I got home that day, I had a voicemail from her informing me that that had been my last day! Apparently when she looked into it with the president of the company, they both agreed that I had already provided them with the information they needed and wouldn’t it be nice for me to have a few days off before I had to start my new job? I never got the clarification on what kind of papers they wanted me to sign or why I needed to sign them after my resignation. When I went by the office to pick up my personal items, my manager just handed my final check over the receptionist counter and waved me off with the rest of the office! I’m still a little shocked but have decided to add it to my list of workplace stories and move on. And to be entirely honest, I actually am excited to have a few days off! I wrote back and asked this: “Wow! I’m reading this as them moving up your last day because they were pissed that you had the audacity to decline to return later — is that your sense too, or am I misinterpreting? Also, did you ever bring up the law on the last paycheck, or did they figure that out on their own?” The letter-writer: I definitely got that sense from the voicemail and when I saw her in person. I would have bought the “good for me” thing, but I was training a temp to take over and we had a ton more to cover so that doesn’t really make much sense to me. I didn’t actually get a chance to request my check be mailed to me. It looked like they figured that one out on their own! You may also like:how to write a resignation letterwhat should a resignation letter say?how to write a resignation letter { 117 comments }
open thread – April 1-2, 2016 by Alison Green on April 1, 2016 It’s the Friday open thread! The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on anything work-related that you want to talk about. If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet*, but this is a chance to talk to other readers. * If you submitted a question to me recently, please don’t repost it here, as it may be in the to-be-answered queue :) You may also like:our new phones have fewer speed dial buttons and everyone is freaking outhow do I interrupt my boss in person when I need something?our employer wants to cut our pay -- retroactively { 1,304 comments }