update: people think I’m my boss’s assistant — but I’m not

Remember the letter-writer last month who was dealing with everyone thinking she was her boss’s assistant because her desk was right in front of his office? To complicate matters, she was the only woman in a large IT department. Here’s the update.

Thank you so much for your thoughtful advice, and for the advice of your wonderful commenters. I have an update for you, which is sort of a mixed bag.

The bad news is, I wasn’t able to move to a different desk. I had a whole list of reasons why the move made sense, and a couple of possible solutions for where I could go, but my boss just wouldn’t budge. I talked over the whole situation with him, to explain where I was coming from and what the problem was, but he really didn’t seem to understand why I was so bothered by it. So, that sucked.

I did mention that I thought sexism might also be in play, and his reaction was basically “I don’t think it’s sexism, but I’m not a woman so maybe I’m wrong.” He just didn’t think it was terrible enough to justify moving people around to accommodate me.

The good news is, I proposed a few different things I could say to people who asked me to do assistant-type work for them, and he agreed to all of them. He’s a pretty blunt guy in general, so he would’ve been fine with me calling everyone sexist a-holes, but I chose to go a softer route :)

I spoke to a few of the worst offenders proactively, and explained what I was dealing with and how they could help. For the most part, they were mortified that they’d ever assumed I was an assistant rather than a technician, and were extremely apologetic. A couple people (who I knew would be difficult) pushed back and told me that they know I’m not an assistant and just don’t care – they come to me because it’s more convenient than going straight to my boss, and I just needed to deal with it.

So, at the very least, I’ve cleared up a lot of the incorrect assumptions about my job title and what I do for the company. I’ve dealt with some one-offs, but I’ve confidently made it clear to them that I’m not an assistant and that they’d need to go to my boss directly, and for the most part that’s worked really well. I just needed to be less of a pushover and not worry as much about possibly offending someone. Hopefully, with a little more time and patience these interruptions will disappear entirely!

the introvert’s guide to better relationships with coworkers

If you, like many introverts, prefer to keep your head down and focus on work and/or find socializing with colleagues to be weirdly draining, it can be frustrating to realize just how important work relationships really are to your success.

But there are some relatively painless things that introverts can do to strengthen relationships with colleagues without triggering too much introvert agony.

1. Say yes to events sometimes, but bow out early if you need to. If your office holds regular social events like happy hours or group lunches, don’t feel like you have to go every time – but it’s a good idea to go occasionally. Even just showing up for an hour, being seen, and talking to a few people can solidify relationships in a helpful way. (Then you can go home and enjoy some solitude!)

2. Take the lead on suggesting activities that you’ll enjoy. If you’re not so excited about socializing at all, it might sound counterintuitive to propose a group activity, but if you take the lead, you can suggest something that you’ll be happier with than, say, an extrovert paradise like happy hours. Plus, being the person to suggest and possibly even plan it will earn you big points.

3. Volunteer to work on a team project. If you’re like most introverts, you’re happiest in groups when you have a specific task to do. In fact, the classic advice for introverts at parties to put yourself to work, like by pouring the drinks or DJ’ing the music. You can do the work version of that by giving yourself a task within a team. You’ll get to focus on something work-related, while getting the benefits of building relationships and increasing your visibility.

4. Ask for people’s input on work topics. Most people love to be asked for their opinion and will take being asked as a sign of respect, so that all on its own can be a relationship builder. Better still, you’ll be talking about substantive work topics, not small talk, which should make this an easier way to build the relationship than having to stare at someone across the table at a work dinner.

5. Make a point of being kind. Obviously, everyone should be kind to their coworkers, but you might put particular thought into doing it if you’re an introvert looking for ways to strengthen your connections with colleagues. For example, write people thank-you notes when they go out of their way to help you (cc their manager for extra points!); send cards if someone gets married, has a baby, or has a loss in their family; and compliment people on their work achievements. Your coworkers are far less likely to care that you’re not the life of the party if they associate you with warm gestures.

Similarly, be a good coworker in general. Be responsive, help out when asked, do good work, and give people the benefit of the doubt. It might take people longer to get to know introverts, but it’ll help if they see you doing great work and being easy to get along with meanwhile.

I originally published this at Intuit QuickBase’s blog.

 

my boss and I agreed to plan my exit from my job — what should that look like?

A reader writes:

Yesterday, I had my mid-year review with my boss and during the conversation, she shared that it was obvious how unhappy I was and that no matter how much I demonstrate that my position is overworked, absolutely nothing would come off my plate (in fact, there is a good chance the workload would increase). I’m doing the work of 2.5 people and am often relied upon by colleagues across the organization to do work outside of my job duties, because of my background/skills.

My boss told me I need to think about whether or not this is the job for me, and if so, commit to the job description as it is (and stop raising issues/concerns) or work with her to develop an exit plan. At this point, I shared with my boss that I have been actively looking. It was a scary thing to say, but I think it opened up a productive dialogue. My boss asked me to think it over and share my decision in my next one-on-one.

Over the last year, I have hated my job, but I come in and work hard every day because I truly believe in my organization’s mission. There are a lot of reasons why this position is not for me beyond the workload and the general trickle down of “don’t expect things to change.” This has helped me cement that developing an exit plan is the right step for both the organization and me.

As part of the exit plan, my boss would like me to commit to working through the next 60-days to get us through some big projects but then has said that she would give me through the end of the fiscal year to find a position (5 months). Though I am confident that this is the right step for me, I am actually not sure how it would work. I would appreciate any advice on how to exit gracefully and how to manage my part of the situation.

Well, good for you for getting it into the open so that you can both figure out how to move forward. And really, good for your manager for being honest with you that the expectations of the job aren’t going to change (whether or not they’re reasonable).

I’ve been on your manager’s side of that conversation, and it’s a conversation I often coach other managers to have. When you can tell that someone is unhappy and you know that the thing making them unhappy isn’t going to change, it’s far better to just be really up-front about that so that everyone can figure out where to go from there. (That doesn’t mean that your manager isn’t a loon for thinking one person should do all the work; maybe she is. But I’ve also seen people convinced that their workload was way too high, and then the next person came in and handled it just fine. I’m not saying that’s the case here — I have no way of knowing — but maybe it’s useful insight into where your manager might be coming from.)

Anyway. Usually what this looks like is:

* a mutual agreement that you will leave your job by a particular date

* some agreement about what your work will include during that time

* sometimes an agreement that you’ll mainly wrap up projects during that time, rather than take on anything new

* sometimes an agreement that you can job-search from work and take off extra time for interviews

Details that you should  cover with your boss as you figure out the logistics:

* What’s the exact timeframe that you should plan on? You don’t want to be thinking that you have a job there until the end of August and discover later that your manager is thinking something different.

* What are the expectations for you and your work during that time? Will you still be expected to take on new projects, or just wrap up existing ones? I’d default to assuming that you’ll be expected to continue to work at the same pace you’ve been working at, but it’s possible that she’d be fine with you slowing it down. (It sounds like that might be what she was getting at with the “get us through the next 60 days and then take a few months to job search” thing, but find out for sure.)

* What’s the messaging to the rest of the staff about you leaving, and the timing for that message?

* Are there other things that you can do to make this period go smoothly? (This is a question to ask your manager, and it’s a good way to acknowledge that she’s giving you a graceful way out and making things easier on you than another manager might have.)

One other thing to keep in mind: You probably already know this, but this kind of agreement isn’t an ironclad guarantee that you will have a job for that full period. Managers who operate in good faith will do their best to ensure that’s true, but if you were to suddenly start doing less work or lower quality work, or to be a toxic presence in the office, assume that you could be let go earlier. It’s also true that if your manager found the perfect replacement for you and the person needed to start earlier, it’s possible that you could be pushed out sooner than you’d agreed. A manager operating in good faith won’t do that, but it’s a possibility you want to be aware of. Not that you’re likely to embark on a leisurely job search, but keep that in mind to maximize good results here.

And again, good for you for being honest with yourself about what next step makes sense. So often, people aren’t able to do that and it leads to much longer-term unhappiness all around.

are patterned stockings unprofessional, how to list freelance work on a resume, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. Are patterned stockings unprofessional?

I am at my first professional job after college and have been in this position for about a year and a half. Today when I walked in the lunch room to get some hot water for tea, I heard a guy say “ohhhh, sexy stockings” as I walked through the door he was facing. I’ve never seen him before, but we’re a corporate office and regularly have field employees visiting, so I think that’s who he was.

At first I thought I had misheard him, but the table he was at burst out laughing. They whispered some comments I couldn’t make out, and then the office manager who was sitting at the table laughingly said, “You need to watch what you say and how loudly you say it.” I was really embarrassed and pretended not to hear. I got my tea and got out of there as quickly as I could.

stockingsNo one here as ever said anything to me about how I dress except comments like “cute dress,” etc. I wear a lot of knee-length dresses and with them stockings of various designs and colors. Especially being young, I want to find the balance between dressing professionally and dressing in a style I like. I had to stop myself from writing the word cute, because although that’s what I thought, it doesn’t really sound professional when I write it out. Anyway, I’ve attached a picture of the stockings/tights. Are they unprofessional? Are there any standard rules on solid stockings are more professional then ones with designs or patterns?

Well, first, that guy was way out of line. “Sexy” is not commentary that should ever be offered about a coworker. It’s wildly inappropriate and gross. Hopefully, the people who laughed after his comment were laughing in shock at how ridiculously inappropriate he was, but regardless, please know that his comment wasn’t okay at work.

Now, as for patterned stockings … it really depends on the office and the pattern. There are definitely offices where the stockings in the picture you sent would be too outside of professional norms, but there are others where they’d be fine. More generally, there are offices where relatively conservative patterns like ribbing or diamonds are fine but other patterns (like fishnet or lace) aren’t. So this is a thing where you need to know your own office and its norms. If you’re unsure, you can probably get a better sense if you make a point of watching what other women wear, and/or you could ask someone slightly senior to you (or very senior to you, for that matter) whose judgment you trust and who’s generally respected in your workplace.

As for colored tights, non-neutral colors will generally read as “young,” which isn’t always the most helpful thing to reinforce when you are in fact young.

2. Manager offered to let me expense my dog-boarding costs when I travel

I work for a very generous company, and have a fantastic boss. Lucky for me, my job only requires travel a couple of times per year. I have two dogs that I put into board/daycare when I travel, which generally works out to about $400 for each week that I am gone. Over the last few years, my boss has asked me why I don’t expense the dog boarding since I am not a frequent traveler. I always respond by saying that if I had non-hairy kids, I would have to pay for daycare for them so I don’t think this is any different. However, a coworker really questioned me about this, since it is not “part of the job” to travel, and thinks I should take him up on his offer to cover the expense. What are your thoughts on expensing care for the kids for the occasional work trip – not only for pets but for human children? Any other managers have any experience with this?

I actually don’t think those are the right questions. Your manager has told you directly that you should expense the dog boarding. So you should expense the dog boarding.

If you want to have a theoretical discussion of whether this is something that employers routinely offer, we can do that. But in your particular case, there’s no compelling argument for turning down an expense reimbursement that your employer is freely offering and encouraging you to use. You should use it.

More generally, no, this isn’t a super common benefit. It’s probably more common for pets than for kids, to the extent that it exists at all. But lots of employers offer uncommon benefits, and the fact that they’re uncommon isn’t a reason not to use them.

3. How do people recover from scandal?

Recently, there was a lot of media coverage in my city about the head of a nonprofit who did something against the mission of the organization. It was egregious enough to spur a public petition to have her fired. The comments on the petition indicated that she had instituted questionable policies that led to staff and volunteers quitting and had fired some staff so that she could hire her friends. The media never said whether those allegations were true, but after the board met on Friday, she issued a statement that she was resigning.

This person was very publicly degraded for her actions and was likely left with no choice but to leave the organization. My question is, how would someone in this situation recover professionally? Is that even possible?

It depends on the specifics of what she was accused of, whether it was true or not (and whether she can present a credible “other side of the story”), and how it intersects with the main work she does. What I mean by that last part is that if, for example, her life’s work was fighting animal cruelty and it turned out that she was running a secret dog-fighting ring, then no, she’s probably never working in that field again.

But people do generally continue to be employed after scandal. It’s not always in their original field, and it’s not always doing the type of work they would have chosen (often in much lower-profile positions doing work behind-the-scenes because they might be irredeemable as a public figure or spokesperson but still have other usable talents). But at least from what I’ve seen, they usually they do manage to piece a life back together.

4. How to list freelance experience on a resume

I have a question about how to best list freelance experience on my resume. I was a freelance designer and design assistant for five years after I graduated college (everyone in my field worked on a freelance basis, in case that matters). After five years, I decided I wanted more structure and work-life balance, so I moved into an administrative role at a large company in a completely different industry. I’ve now been in this role for three years and am looking to pursue other administrative opportunities in a more creative environment.

I’m concerned about future employers thinking I’m flighty or a job hopper based on my prior freelance experience (most of these gigs lasted anywhere from two months to two years). Would it make sense to list all five years of my freelance work under one title with start and end dates for that period of time? (For example, Freelance Teapot Designer, May 2008-February 2013.) If so, can I also list my overall accomplishments beneath this one title? All of my freelance projects generally followed the same process and required the same skills (maintaining budget of varying sizes, coordinating vendor schedules to ensure deadlines were met, producing presentations for management team, etc.) Or is it important for me to outline specific jobs, and if so, do I need to include individual dates for each one?

Grouping them all under one overall freelance heading is the perfect way to do, and then you can list all your accomplishments from that time period there. You don’t need to list every specific freelance job you held during that period or individual dates for them — but if it strengthens your resume (it may or may not), you could include one bullet point that says something like this:

* Clients included Teapots International, Texas Rice Sculpture Tournament, Northwest Llama-gram Society, and more

5. Update: My company wants me to return part of a gift from a client

Here’s an update from the letter-writer whose company wanted her to return amusement park tickets from a client.

Both you and some of the commenters hit the nail on the head with your insight that my problem with returning two of the tickets to my client, as the compliance officer recommended, was tied into the larger issue of me feeling generally unappreciated by my company, which is absolutely true.

You also pointed out that the way the compliance officer phrased her response — i.e. as a recommendation rather than a mandate — left some room for interpretation. I re-read the compliance plan once again and found a clause that stated an acceptable alternative to returning a gift would be to share the gift among co-workers. So I ended up giving two of the tickets to a co-worker who also worked on the project with me, and he was surprised and delighted. (Which made me feel really good!)

I then emailed the compliance officer, thanking her for her recommendation and letting her know that I had shared the gift with a coworker, a solution that prevented us from appearing ungracious to the client while also keeping both of us under the gift limit set forth by the policy. I got no further response from her, so I think the matter is closed.

I dread meetings with a snotty coworker who calls me by the wrong name

A reader writes:

I am coming up to my two-year anniversary as an apprentice and am struggling with a monthly task my manager has allocated me. As I am learning teapot administration, my manager thought it fit to offer my services to a monthly strategic teapot meeting so that I could have some experience of minute-taking and providing executive support. There are six people who attend the meeting, and five of them I am fine with as they show me respect and don’t treat me as a subordinate. One person, however, really gets my back up with how she treats me. She seems naturally snobbish in nature and has a lot to say. It’s safe to say she is definitely not someone I would choose as a friend.

Cutting to the chase, my main issue with her is that she has known me for two years and still calls me by the wrong name. I am not encouraged to speak in meetings as I am not a “delegate” per se, so it can be difficult for me to correct her and also embarrassing when she does it in front of a room full of people. I had hoped that one of her “equals” would speak up and correct her, but this hasn’t happened as yet. She is not the chair of this particular meeting but seems to take over a lot, and she constantly instructs me of what is to be minuted and what is not. I am there to take minutes and am experienced enough to use my discretion when something is not to be recorded, and it totally angers me that she continues telling me what to do throughout the meeting.

She is dismissive and obviously sees me as beneath her. It has gotten to the point that I dread the meetings and hate being there because she embarrasses me in how she speaks to me. I am close to asking my manager if I can stop providing support at the meetings as they are seriously getting me down. Would this be reasonable or should I just deal with it? How can I tackle this?

Don’t do that; it wouldn’t reflect well on you to ask to stop attending a meeting simply because one of the people there annoys you.

If she’s a blowhard, other people at the meeting will see that and it will reflect on her, not on you — and the more you can remain calm and not let her get under your skin, the better you’ll look.

If you’re at the meetings to take minutes, I’d try to totally disconnect yourself from caring that she talks a lot and takes over (not really yours to be aggravated by since it’s not your meeting), and even that she gives you direction about the minutes. Your manager sent you there to give you minutes-taking experience, so presumably this coworker has some reason to think that some direction might be helpful — but even if not, she’s hardly out of line in wanting some input into the content of the minutes for a meeting that it sounds like she plays a big role in.

But you absolutely have standing to address the name thing. It doesn’t have to be a big, fraught thing; just approach her after a meeting and say, “I noticed you keep referring to me as Cordelia, but I’m actually Jane.”

Beyond that, though, you’re going to deal with annoying and even snotty people throughout your career. Your best bet is to see their demeanor as being about them, not you.

Read an update to this letter here.

my coworker keeps bossing me around

A reader writes:

One of my coworkers is constantly telling me what to do, and it’s driving me crazy! She does not give suggestions; she gives orders. She also disagrees with me on everything and insists on always having her way, both for things directly related to my work and things that are indirectly or not at all related to my work. Even the most insignificant thing will set her off. For example, we recently cleaned out some old filing cabinets, and my coworker demanded to know why I wanted to save a particular file since she wanted to throw out as much as possible. I explained why it was necessary to save these papers, and she disagreed and told me that I had to throw them out. While I understand why she wanted to clear out as many papers as possible (I did too!), her response to saving 10 pieces of paper was extreme, especially since we threw out thousands of other papers. If it were me, I wouldn’t have given a second thought if someone wanted to save ten pieces of paper, much less made a big deal about it.

In addition to disagreeing with and giving orders to people, she constantly inserts herself into conversations she overhears that she is not part of in order to express her disagreement and tell people what they should do. For example, a client recently came to my office for an appointment with me, and said he would have to reschedule because he forgot to bring money for the parking meter. I asked him if he would like to move his car into our validated parking garage (which he did not know we had), and my coworker, who happened to be standing nearby but was not part of our conversation, came over and told my client that he should reschedule his appointment with me instead of moving his car!

My frustration is growing daily, and I imagine that it is for my other coworkers as well (she acts like this to everyone, including our boss). The funny thing about this is that while I am not her manager, I hold a higher position in the company than she does, and have been at this company twice as long as she has. You would think that she would realize that I am not a clueless idiot.

Do you have any suggestions for how to deal with this? My department is small, and we all work closely together for very long hours, so it’s important that we have good working relationships with one another.

You can read my answer to this question over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and often updating/expanding my answers to them).

my boss wants to talk about her feelings all the time

A reader writes:

My team is currently under a ton of stress — and will be for the duration of the special project we’re working on through the fall — and it’s turned my boss into a crazy person.

Let’s put aside that she’s lost the ability to organize, schedule, or remember anything she’s been told more than 10 minutes later, in either verbal or written format. Let’s also put aside that she has actual meltdowns, where she yells or flips out because a piece of technology doesn’t work or she’s late or someone didn’t answer her call. Oh, and that she complains about her direct reports to other direct reports all of the time.

One could navigate those things, especially because once the project ends in 10 months, the team will be disbanded and the stress level will drop dramatically.

But here is one problem that I and some of my teammates can’t figure out how to deal with: She’s taking everything personally, projecting all of her insecurities on her employees, and wants to talk about her “feelings” all of the time. We get dragged into these exhausting conversations that can be either getting berated for an hour or feeling like we’re serving as her therapist for an hour.

Disagree on something? It means you’re calling her an idiot and speaking to her “like the hired help” and don’t respect her. (She said all of those things.) Try to apologize profusely that she got that impression and insist you don’t actually feel that way? She keeps insisting that she feels that way and you aren’t doing enough to acknowledge her feelings.

I want to tell her I could care less about her feelings and that we have a job to do. But that’s not going to help. I’ve tried walking on eggshells. Apologizing. Refusing to apologize. Nothing is helping.

There also appears to be a bit of gender politics at play. She is a woman. She behaves this way toward the women (myself included) way more than she does to the men who work for her. She’ll then complain to the women about the men being mean.

During the most recent explosion (which was an hour-long conversation), she kept insisting that I don’t respect her and that I only respect the boss a step above her (he directly deals with our team and manages our work on an individual level as well). I have insisted it isn’t true. Heck, I barely even speak to that boss! I don’t take my questions or work to him. But she’s projecting her own insecurities on me.

Should I just suck and up and deal with the fact that she’s going to be bonkers for the next few months? I would be inclined to go to the other boss, who I’ve got a great relationship with, but now I’m afraid she’ll just think that proves I don’t respect her. Is there some way to deal with this personality type that you (or a reader) can recommend?

Yeah, your boss sucks and is highly unlikely to change.

You could try saying something like, “Jane, I want to focus on the work we’re here to do and not how any of us are feeling about it.” You could try adding, “You ask the women on this team to have a disproportionate number of conversations about feelings, and I want to return to focusing on work.” If you’re firm about it and decline to engage, it’s possible that she might respect that. But it’s also possible that it will further enrage her and make your work life even worse. And really, even if it did get her to back off a bit on the FEELINGS FEELINGS FEELINGS, you’d still be stuck with a boss who has regular meltdowns and is fundamentally unable to manage.

It’s possible that she could change if someone above her leans on her hard enough, but it’s likely that there would be a lot of hostile behavior toward you and your coworkers during that process (although a really good manager above her would make it clear that was unacceptable and watch her like a hawk to make sure it didn’t happen, and would be willing to remove her from managing people if it did). So if you trust her boss to (a) have good judgment, (b) see that this is unacceptable and needs to be addressed, and (c) act on it in a way that doesn’t implicate you, and if you have pretty good standing with him, then yeah, you could tell him what’s going on. Before you do that though, be sure you’re willing to handle any possible fall-out from it. Again, a good manager will protect you from that — but less-than-good ones won’t, so you want to know who you’re dealing with.

Will that work? Maybe. My guess is that it might improve some of it (maybe the yelling, for example), but the fundamental problems would remain — because fundamentally she’s really not suited for the work she’s doing, at least not without pretty intensive coaching, during which time you’d get to bear the brunt of her learning curve.

So given that, the question for you is really: Are you up for dealing with this or most of this for 10 months, or would you rather get out sooner? And if you do put up with it for 10 months, how are you going to feel about working with her after that, even if she does put this side of herself away at that point (something I wouldn’t count on now that the dynamics have shifted like this)?

Read updates to this letter here and here.

employee came in with blue hair, boss is circumventing HR, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. Employee came in with blue, green, and purple hair

I wanted to ask how I tell a sweet younger employee, who dyed her hair from a rather unassuming brown to black with blue/purple/green highlights over the weekend, that it is unprofessional for the workplace. It is jet black with highlights that change with how the light hits it — think peacock feathers. I don’t want to hurt her feelings, but it just doesn’t fit here. Our policy is specific about nails, attire, tattoos, and piercings but not hair. I never dreamed I would have to include that “crazy cartoon hair” is a no-no. She is a medical assistant and is in patient care all day.

I’m going to take your word for it that your stance is necessary for your particular business rather than debating that here — but I’d also encourage you to think through that question first, because the world is changing in this regard and this is now okay in many places that it didn’t used to be.

But if it is indeed a business necessity for you, just be straightforward: “Jane, your new hair color looks great on you, but unfortunately we need you to have a more conservative appearance while you’re working here. I realize that the dress code didn’t spell this out so it’s not your fault for not knowing it, but I do need you to revert back to a more natural color.”

2. Boss is circumventing HR to do hiring work on his own

A number of recent interviewees for various positions in our marketing team have turned down their offers. Our chief marketing officer (CMO), who can be a micromanager in the extreme, has taken this as an indication that HR is somehow screwing up the hiring process. His solution is to step in and do more of the offer-giving, negotiating, and question-asking on his own.

We’ve told him this is a bad idea, but he’s unwilling to see that it could be a problem… and then this weekend happened. The team interviewed a tremendously talented young writer and we all pushed the CMO to make an offer ASAP. “No,” he said on Fridayafternoon, “I’ll need a couple days to think about it.” We were all disappointed that he wasn’t as eager as we were, but we went into our weekends hopeful that he’d give HR the green light to send her an offer letter on Monday morning. Instead, we arrived at work this morning to find that he had called the candidate over the weekend to “unofficially” offer her the job without first consulting with HR to secure official offer paperwork.

As a mid-career professional, this would have set off a number of alarms and I wouldn’t have accepted the position. As a recent graduate, the candidate didn’t seem to connect the dots/be concerned that the CMO of a large company called her on a weekend to extend an unofficial employment offer.

All of the mid-level managers are taken aback by his actions. Even my director is shocked. Is his behavior as weird as we think it is? How do you approach senior management who is openly distrustful of HR’s ability to onboard new candidates about his behavior with new recruits?

This … seems really normal to me. Managers should do this stuff themselves, and if your company has been leaving it to HR, that’s actually not a great thing. When managers turn this kind of work over to HR, they often miss out on opportunities to sell the position and to get a good sense of any reservations the candidate has, which they’re often going to be far more effective at addressing than HR will be. HR also isn’t going to have the same investment as the manager in hiring this particular person, getting the tone right, getting the person excited about the job, and setting up the relationship well from the start. Hiring is one of the most important things that managers do, and the offer stage is a critical part of hiring; it makes no sense to turn it over to someone without the same stake in it that the manager has.

So I don’t think it should set off any alarm bells for the candidate — maybe the weekend call, but not the rest of it.

Your CMO may have other issues, but this doesn’t sound like one of them.

3. My director requires more reporting from my department than from another

I work in a department of seven people that is overseen by a managing director who is also over another department of four people. Those in the smaller department all make about 5-10% more than those in my department, but we do completely different functions.

What I’ve noticed is that my department has to turn in weekly reports of our accomplishments. I won’t go into detail and give away what we do, but suffice it to say that our work is easily quantifiable and I generate a report and graphs for a weekly director’s meeting that my boss attends.

I’m considering making a formal complaint to my director that I feel like he’s only keeping track of our side while letting the smaller department do whatever. I’ve seen copies of the reports that are submitted to the company managers and there’s no mention of the smaller department. Their work is also easily quantifiable and they are setup to use the same work order tracking system we use, but they don’t. What would be the best way to approach this?

Don’t. It doesn’t impact your job, and it’s not really any of your business. There are all kinds of legitimate reasons that your director might ask for different reporting from your department than he does from the other department — but even if there’s no good reason for it, it’s just not your business and you don’t have standing to complain about it, formally or otherwise.

4. My boss wants me to work with an estranged relative

One of my relatives is a big supporter of the organization I currently work at (apparently it really is a small world, after all) and, without knowing that I was related to this person, my supervisor suggested that I might work with my relative and that they could be a resource for a project I’m working on. This person is very well-connected, and may be able to open doors that will be very helpful to this project.

However, I have been estranged from a relative for just over a year now. This person is not abusive, and I don’t fear for my safety—we were actually close until they did something pretty terrible and I decided that I could no longer have this person in my life.

I eventually told my supervisor that this person was a relative because I thought it would seem odd if it became known eventually and I hadn’t said anything, but I didn’t mention the estrangement. I just started working at this place a few months ago, and I don’t know if it will reflect badly on me if I tell my supervisor about the estrangement and that I would rather not work with this person. My supervisor is also a big believer in the separation of work life and personal life, and I’m not sure how they would react if I mentioned this personal story, even in very general terms. I don’t know if I should talk to my supervisor, not say anything and hope my supervisor forgets about it (the idea of working with my relative has been raised as a possibility, but in the meantime another project has come up that needs to be our top priority for now), or if there’s a better solution.

Would it seem like you dropped the ball if you didn’t follow up on it? If so, you should proactively bring it up so that you don’t look like you just let it drop or that you hoped that if you didn’t bring it up again, you could get out of it — those two things would be a bigger problem than just explaining what’s going on. But if neither of those things are true, then sure, you could just wait and see if it comes up again.

If you do need to address it (either now or down the road), I’d just be straightforward and brief: “Jane and I are actually estranged due to some family issues, so it would be awkward to work together.”

5. Can my resume list pieces I ghostwrote?

One of my current job duties is authoring op-eds and blog posts for senior leadership at my organization. Is it appropriate to list specific ghostwritten pieces in a publications section on my résumé? I like that this conveys the range of topics, diversity of voices, and frequency of publication, and also highlights work of which I am particularly proud. But I worry that it’s gauche to “out” the publicly credited authors and to assert a role that is not backed by bylines. Is it better to leave it as a general bullet point with some sample topics and publications?

Nope, it’s totally normal to list ghostwritten publications on your resume. It’s also very normal for staff to be the ones who actually author the pieces that have the byline of a top organizational leader, so you won’t be exposing any dirty secrets or anything like that. (That said, since this isn’t a CV, you don’t want a long list of publications on your resume — just selected highlights.)

how to handle customers who just want to chat

A reader writes:

I am the “lead” of a customer service team (not in a supervisory or managerial role; I report to the manager, but report to her with ideas, problems and how reps are performing) of a company that provides services to older senior citizens. Part of our training is to teach our reps that seniors tend to require a little more patience as some are hard of hearing and some are a little grumpy. Our team does GREAT with this.

Something I had not realized until it became an increasingly larger problem is the fact that many of these older seniors live at home by themselves and have limited interaction with the outside world and are starved for some personal contact. They call us and sometimes and just want to chat. I am always happy to brighten a customer’s day by letting everyone take interest in them for a minute or two. But now it has reached the point where reps are on the phone with one customer for 20-30 minutes – trying to be polite and get off the phone but the customer keeps talking.

I called a meeting recently and tried a quick training tip to tell them if the call is lasting too long simply say, “Mrs. Smith, I hate to do it, but I have other customers waiting to talk to me, so I need to let you go.” This works great in the moment, and gets them off the phone 90% of the time – but our call volume has increased now because those customers CALL BACK to see if their rep has more time to speak “now that they’ve had time to talk to everyone.” We even have one lady that calls her rep twice per day “just to be sure everything is ok on her account – then starts talking about the weather, the news, the election, and any other subject just to stay on the phone with her.”

I am unsure how to approach this from here. I am stuck between brightening customer’s day by having reps be cordial and the reps being able to manage their time and getting their share of work done for the day.

Do you have any advice on how to handle this? From my experience, senior citizens seem to get their feelings hurt quite easily, and simply having to say “Mrs. Smith, I HAVE to go now” and hanging up offends them and they often don’t return as customers – something our company is big on – repeat business. But aside from that, my manager and I really don’t know what to do or how to handle this.

Oooh, so interesting.

I’ll say up-front that this is a bit out of my wheelhouse because I am all about ending calls efficiently and moving on to the next work item on the list … but I’m also all about getting clarity on what it takes to achieve your work goals, so maybe that brings it back into my wheelhouse.

Anyway, I think the first thing to do here is confront the fundamental question head-on and figure out how much time you’re willing to spend simply on relationship-building with these customers. A few minutes and then wrap up? Longer? My guess is that a few minutes is probably the right answer, but it really depends on what your business model is. So that’s the first question.

Once you have clarity on that, then you can arm your call reps with language to use to set those boundaries. For example, if a customer calls back a second time to see if their rep has more time to talk now: “Oh, that’s so kind of you! To be honest, I have customer calls coming in all day so usually don’t have much time to chat.” You can pad this however you want — “I can tell I’d love chatting with you if we did have the time” or “I loved hearing about your rice sculpture the other day but our phones are keeping us busy” or whatever, as long as you don’t think that’ll just be taken as encouragement to try back later.

Arm them with ways to repeat the message too if a caller doesn’t immediately get the message. For example: “I really do need to get this next call, but have a wonderful day.”

In general, with most people, you can actually be pretty firm as long as you do it in a really warm tone. There’s a big difference between “I need to end this call now” and “you’re so kind — I wish I had time to chat but our phones keep us busy.”

But the first step here, before you can script any of this out, is to sit down and really get clear on what the boundaries should be and whether it does make sense for your particular business to spend more time than most might on this aspect of things — and since it sounds like a pretty widespread issue, not just a handful of customers, I might also pull people above you into that conversation too, to make sure that they’re in the loop on how this gets decided.

how to turn bad ideas into good ones

You want a staff that generates new ideas, but you’re not going to be able to say yes to every new idea someone comes up with. But if you say no enough, you risk shutting down the flow of creativity. Sometimes, though, you can turn bad ideas into good ones, with a little effort – and in the process, coach your team members to refine their suggestions so that they become stronger over time. Here’s how.

* Look for what’s good in the idea, even if it’s just a kernel. Maybe the idea itself is workable or unrealistic, but perhaps there’s something good somewhere in there. For example, you might not be able to implement someone’s idea for a massive blow-out bash for your summer fellows, but you might recognize the value in doing somethingto recognize the fellows’ work and build camaraderie, so you might ask if there are other ways to achieve that goal. Phrases that can help:

  • “I like element X – how might we build on that?”
  • “What I like about that is…”
  • “I like that you’re thinking about X.”
  • “At the core of that idea, I think you’re getting at…”

* Isolate the piece that won’t work and ask if there’s a way around it. You might find that with some refining, the idea can turn into something more useful. And even if you determine that the whole idea is pretty bad, discussing it will give your group a chance to develop some shared evaluative principles.

* Test it with real-world concretes. For example, if a staff member proposes a new service you could offer to clients, you might say, “Can we take two real-life current clients and talk through how that would work them? How would we pitch it to them, and how would the work likely play out?”  In grounding the discussion in real-world examples, the weaknesses of the idea might quickly become apparent – but you might also be able to isolate the pieces that won’t work and some pieces that do, and then build on the latter.

* Be sure it’s really a bad idea. It can be easy to say no to something quickly – and sometimes we do it too quickly, especially if an idea is completely new to us. Be sure you say no, invest a little bit of time in taking it seriously and talking about how it would work and what the likely results would be. You might still end up at “no,” but you’ll demonstrate to employees that you value their thoughts enough to give their ideas real respect and exploration.

I originally published this at Intuit QuickBase’s blog.