how can I make my boss stop talking to me when I’m trying to work? by Alison Green on January 13, 2016 A reader writes: My boss and I work together in a small office. We get on well and have a great relationship, and she is easily a contender for the best boss I have ever had. The problem is that she is very chatty, usually about mundane personal things but also often about unimportant work-related matters, and I don’t know how to get her to stop talking. I have tried all manner of strategies, including headphones (which we are not supposed to use but I can resort to maybe once a week), saying things like “I need to do some work now,” and explicitly saying “I am wasting time with all these interruptions” and then naming her as one of the people interrupting me when she asks who is causing the breaks in my concentration. I have tried standing up and leaving the office to make teas and coffees, but she will continue the conversation upon my return. I tried going to lunch with her so she could “get it out of her system” but this only encouraged more talk about our lunch plans, and talking on the way back to our desks which did not end when we sat down. Moving desks is not an option. I feel like I am preemptively shooting down all solutions here, but I want you to know I have considered all the options and need a fresh perspective. I think the problem is that, from her point of view, there is always time to chat as she catches up on a lot of work at home. I have specifically made it so that I am unable to work from home, as I like to keep these my work and personal lives separate or I will end up working all the time. I find I now come into the office earlier and earlier to avoid her, so that I can have an hour’s peace and get some work done. I am falling behind with my work, and not only that I am now starting to resent her presence in our office. I cheer inwardly when I learn she will not be in that day, and feel irritable and deflated the moment I hear her arriving in the morning. This is not what I want at all – I do respect and like her as a manager and if I could just sort out this one tiny thing, life would be perfect! You can read my answer to this question over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and often updating/expanding my answers to them). Also, a note about my articles at Inc.: If you’re outside the U.S. or using an ad blocker, Inc. may ask you to register in order to read more than one article there. That’s because they otherwise aren’t able to earn any revenue from those page views, which they’re of course dependent on in order to continue to exist. You may also like:my boss follows me into the bathroom to talk about workmy boss keeps asking if I'm OKour intern won't stop talking -- but I can't tell her I need to get back to work { 16 comments }
should we stop stocking the office kitchen if people won’t keep it clean? by Alison Green on January 13, 2016 A reader writes: We have a smallish office of 10-12 employees. Our company provides groceries — as in pays for coffee, cereal, sandwich stuff, and snacks for the employees. We have a microwave, toaster oven, refrigerator, and dishwasher. I think it is an excellent benefit to provide to employees, as I don’t know of many employers that provide food to their employees on a consistent basis. We developed a “kitchen duty” schedule that schedules someone to provide basic housekeeping for a week on a rotating basis. This includes trash removal, wiping counters, and loading/unloading the dishwasher. For the most part, everyone is compliant, but there are some who do not want to participate in “kitchen duty” yet still want to use the kitchen, eat the food, etc. One claims that bending/stooping aggravates a back injury. I don’t want to get into an ADA or workers comp situation, but at the same time, I firmly believe that if you use the kitchen, you should participate in keeping in clean and if there is a task that you cannot physically do, you should ask for assistance. I am to the point where I want to just stop providing the groceries. It’s a rare benefit that does not appear to be appreciated. Your thoughts? Well, it’s really, really normal. Kitchen issues like this are pretty much universal; no one has discovered a good way to keep office kitchens clean unless you hire someone specifically to do it. In some ways, it’s understandable. If I just use the kitchen to make myself coffee or tea, I’m not going to be thrilled about spending my time wiping down sticky counters, scraping out other people’s dirty dishes, and generally putting in much more cleaning effort than the use I’m getting out of the kitchen. You could certainly argue that pitching in, even if it means cleaning up messes that you didn’t make, is just part of being a civilized adult with a shared kitchen space. But you can also argue that your busy, well-paid employees didn’t sign up to be their coworkers’ janitor. Frankly, neither did your low-paid employees, probably, but this kind of duty is at least more par for the course when you’re more junior. I don’t think it’s a good use of your time to have to police the kitchen clean-up, and it’s not a good use of your highest paid or busiest employees’ time to do everyone’s cleaning for a full week (versus wiping up their own messes when they make them, which is quite reasonable to expect). So I’d rather see you hire someone to do it, or make it an explicit part of someone’s job (that you disclose to them during the hiring process, not something you spring on them afterwards). I’ve never seen any other solution to this issue that worked consistently and fairly. There is the option of just stopping providing groceries, as you suggest. But if it’s a perk that you felt good about offering and one that your employees like, it seems short-sighted to end it when most people are following the rules and only a few aren’t. Plus, even if you did that, you’re still going to have to deal with kitchen messes; it’ll just be with food people bring in on their own rather than with food you’re providing. (Also, it’s totally plausible that bending and stooping aggravates someone’s back injury. You don’t want to get into deciding whose health claims are real and whose aren’t. Whatever you decide to do, you should excuse that person from those activities and not give them a hard time about it.) You may also like:what are the bare minimum benefits an employer needs to provide?how can I stop people from stealing my food in the office fridge?I'm in charge of our disgusting office kitchen { 241 comments }
cutting the salary of a low-performing new hire, I lied in an interview, and more by Alison Green on January 13, 2016 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. Cutting the salary of a disappointing new hire We hired an employee almost two months ago who seemed to have quite a lot of experience in our field (which is rare in our city). She asked for a higher salary than entry-level, which we were okay with giving based on her experience. Now, almost two months in, it’s become obvious to us that she actually doesn’t have as much experience in the field as she thought she did and her work is only slightly better than what we get from candidates straight out of school or switching into this industry from another one. Essentially, we regret paying her the higher salary and feel that she isn’t worth it. Legally, we know that we can reduce it a bit, but should we? And if so, how do we handle that situation? (She is at $60k. Entry level for us is $45k, possibly $50k. We haven’t settled on a firm number yet.) Nope, don’t do it. It’s not fair — you agreed to a salary when you offered her the job, and she may have left a previous job and/or turned down other offers because of the salary you offered her. Lowering it now would be a bait and switch, and you’d be asking her to shoulder the burden of you not doing enough diligence to really investigate her skills before you hired her. (That’s not necessarily your fault; no one hires perfectly every time.) What you can and should do is to talk to her about where she’s falling short and what you need to see from her to improve. You could also tell her that in order to stay at this salary level, you’d need to see (specific changes) in the next X months. That way you’d be giving her some warning and an opportunity to improve, rather than just blindsiding her with a salary cut. Be aware, though, that if you do that, it’ll likely be a serious hit to her morale and there’s a decent chance that you’ll lose her — if not immediately, then pretty soon afterwards. It might make more sense to just write this off as the price of a lesson learned about better verifying people’s skills during the hiring process. (In fact, this will be a fairly cheap lesson if it becomes that — some employers never learn it!) 2. My company refuses to let me remove the lights above my desk I sit in a cubicle at work all day. The overhead lighting is everywhere and bright as hell. I have a dry eye condition, and the brightness dries my eyes and sometimes causes headaches. I’ve asked my supervisor if they can take the bulbs out from the lighting right above my desk. I was told to get a doctor’s note, which I did. The doctor’s note stated that the lights should be dimmed in my area due to my eye condition. The note went to my supervisor and HR. Someone in facilities came by and took one (yes, one!) bulb out. It made no difference whatsoever. I asked if they can take all three out–keep in mind that there is plenty of lighting in my surrounding area, even if the three bulbs were taken off. Anyway, so now I get a meeting request from HR to “discuss.” Really? Okay, so me, my supervisor and HR have a meeting, and I was told by HR that they can only remove twi bulbs and if that doesn’t work there are other options. Here are the options she gave me: use eye drops (which I already use per my doctor’s recommendation) and the second option is to get glare-resistant lenses on my glasses. What?? Really? She said the reason why the three bulbs can’t be removed is “in case IT has to go under my desk for any reason” (it’s always going to be dark under the desk, with or without lights!) and the other reason is “because janitors need light to clean.” There are plenty of lights everywhere! It’s not like I’m asking them to purchase some expensive chair or desk to accommodate me. Does this sound ridiculous to you? Yes. Very. Your company sucks. There was no reason they should have made you get a doctor’s note in the first place (I mean, really, do they think you’re somehow trying to game the system into … having less light?), and they’re being ridiculous about it now. If you want to pursue it, I’d look into whether your condition is likely covered by the ADA and, if it is, approach it from that angle since they’d be required to engage in an interactive process with you to find solutions that will work on both ends. 3. I lied in an interview but then confessed I recently got an interview with my county to become a dispatcher for emergency services. During the interview, I was asked if I knew anyone in the department or who dispatched. I answered yes, because my friend from high school does in fact work there. But then I told a lie to make myself sound more experienced and qualified I said my “cousin” worked for the public safety office in a neighboring county. Then they began to probe, and I kept lying because I froze up. I used a fake name and everything. But only minutes after leaving the interview, I called the supervisor back and told the truth, that I just wanted to look good to the company. Now I’m nervous that they won’t hire me. (I’m almost certain.) Do you think that they won’t hire me, even though I told her the truth and apologized? Yes, I think they won’t hire you. Lying is a big deal, even if you confess it later, because it says something about your integrity and how trustworthy you are. This employer knows very little about you, but one thing they do know is that you lied to look better when you felt under pressure. That’s not something employers want to knowingly invite on to their staffs. We all make silly mistakes, but sometimes the price of them is that we take ourselves out of the running for a job/a date/a promotion/a Powerball win. Write this one off, and figure out how to avoid whatever prompted you to do it. 4. My promised promotion hasn’t come through yet I’ve been at a big and well-known media company for about two years now, where I was hired in an entry-level position with the caveat that because of my master’s degree, I’d be looking at a promotion in a year. My list of responsibilities has continued to grow, including essentially taking over the roles that were once covered by not one, but two, senior professionals. I’ve been praised for my work and at my first annual review told I was “highly valuable” and received the highest merit raise possible. I decided to ask for a promotion back in September, and my boss (the VP of my department) told me that without a doubt, I was doing the job of the level above me and deserved the promotion and it would just depend on HR and my “big” boss (his boss). Fast forward to a few weeks ago, when my boss told me that I would be getting the promotion on my work anniversary (this week). I let him know I was excited (but also took it with a grain of salt, because my boss sometimes over-promises … and I had a feeling this might be one of those times). I come into the office today and my boss tells me that there are going to be a ton of layoffs tomorrow (I know I’m not included in this) and that he spoke to his boss and my promotion won’t happen on my anniversary date after all. He mentioned that they can’t promote someone when they do all of these layoffs. He then went on to say that my promotion was “a done deal, it’s happening” and when I asked when he thought it would be, he said “closer to February.” Does it sound like I’m being toyed with, or should I just be grateful I’m being told I’m getting a promotion at all? Is it normal to be told when you are getting a promotion to begin with? I feel like I’ve been very patient and putting in the work, but I don’t want to get jerked around. I’d love to go to HR and discuss this, but I know that to my boss, that would like I was going over his head. I’m really at a loss for what to do – just sit around and wait for it to happen or push for a date? I’d take him at his word. He could have easily told you that it was on hold indefinitely, but he didn’t; he told you “a done deal, it’s happening.” Unless he has a track record of lying to you, I’d be believe him. Not being able to deal with this in the middle of layoffs is perfectly reasonable. If February rolls around and he puts you off again, at that point I’d have more concerns — but so far none of this seems like major cause for concern. 5. How to let an out-of-state company know I’ll be in their area this weekend I found a job posting for what sounds like the perfect job for me with a company that, no joke, I have dreamed of working for since I was in high school. Of course, I immediately applied, but the catch is that this job is with an office that is part of a larger nationwide company. This means that, of course, my application went into their big, centralized system, and the person who will have the first contact with it will likely not even be in the same state, let alone the same office, as the job itself. This is a little concerning to me because I tend to struggle to present myself on paper, and the job that I currently hold is not in the same field as the one I’m applying for. (The bills weren’t going to pay themselves while I job hunted, so I had to take what I could.) The job is in a city that is 750 miles away from where I live now. I usually make a trip up there once a year for personal reasons, and by luck, this weekend is that trip. I feel like I should do something to put myself on their radar while I have the chance, but I fear crossing the line into “gimmick” territory. My first instinct was to reach out to the person who would be my boss if I got that job, but it would be obvious that I had done some detective work to get ahold of his email, as it’s not actually published on the company website anywhere. That seemed a little creepy to me. My second instinct was to use LinkedIn, but to be honest, I am not super savvy with LinkedIn, and this person’s profile seemed sparse enough to suggest that he wasn’t a big LinkedIn user either. My third thought was to simply stop by and drop off a business card and maybe resume as I passed through town, but that seemed amateurish, clumsy, and the exact opposite of what you would say to do. What, if anything, should I do? It seems silly to let my application sit unnoticed in HR purgatory when I’m going to be right there. I would feel better about this whole situation if there was some easier way for me to get introduced, but my main networking contact from the last job I had in that field and that city (about four years ago) brushed me off the last time I asked for his help. Most hiring managers won’t find it creepy that you figured out who they are; having people track you down like that is a pretty common part of hiring. (I mean, don’t contact him at home; that would be creepy. But otherwise, most people won’t have an issue with it.) Send him an email and say that you applied for the X job through their online system but that you wanted to let him know that you’re going to be in town this weekend, and that if he thinks it would be useful to meet and it happens to be convenient for him, you’d be glad to set up a time to talk. Attach your application materials to this email. From there, it’s in his court. You may hear nothing, you may hear “we’re not interviewing candidates yet,” you may hear “HR handles these early stages and I don’t know where the process stands,” or you may hear “yes, let’s set up an interview.” If you don’t get a positive response, at that point you’ll need to let it drop — do not under any circumstances just show up at their office, which will mark you as out of touch and a bit annoying. 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why won’t my manager let me work extra hours? by Alison Green on January 12, 2016 A reader writes: I graduated in May 2015 and accepted an internship position in December. I work for a very large corporation and am part of a two-person team (me and my manager). After two weeks, our full-time, permanent recruitment coordinator (RC) gave her notice and officially left at the end of the year. My manager decided to just “give” me this role, while still expecting me to do my internship tasks. Of course I was excited about the opportunity. To clarify, my internship role and the RC role have completely different responsibilities – literally no overlap. Before the RC left, she trained me but also just threw everything to me. On her last day, she gave me things which should have been done before she left and which she could have easily done compared to me. When she left, to catch up with work (her slack), I had to go to the office on a holiday, one weekend (Saturday and Sunday) and stay until 11 p.m. on a Monday (the first day I was officially taking over her role). Initially, I did this without my manager knowing because it could also look like I can’t manage my time, when in fact I’m just trying to catch up with things that should have been done by the previous person. However, I eventually told her that on Tuesday by saying “I was here on the weekends and stayed til 11 last night.” I wasn’t even complaining; she asked me how I was, so I answered it just to give info. I’m paid hourly but wasn’t even planning to put the extra hours in my timesheet. She was not pleased at all that I worked on the weekends and stayed that late, saying that “we don’t hire people to work overtime and work on the weekends here.” After this, she would constantly check up on me, asking when I plan on doing certain things for her. Daily. She has also started making sure I leave no later than 6 p.m. (even if I’m not done work). My manager also told me she will fire me if I don’t stop doing this (working long hours and weekends – I’ve only done this once). I want to clarify that the reason I’m working this much is because I care about what happens to the company. I handle the whole onboarding process for full-time experienced hires, and I want new hires to have good first impression of the company. I’m not doing this to get overtime pay. I never even thought of putting down the extra hours to get more money. I’m frustrated that I’m being “punished” for doing work that needs to be done. I don’t go on breaks, don’t do chit chat, don’t even check my phone. Am I doing something wrong? I am completely lost. Would a company rather have someone go home right at 5 p.m. when there are strict deadlines to meet? Is it reasonable for her or anyone to expect someone to finish tasks for two people in eight hours per day? She also keeps telling me that when she was younger, she used to the same things I did (two roles in one person). I feel she’s being passive aggressive and wants to imply that my situation is common. I feel she’s being unfair to quickly compare me to her when she’s not even clear what I do in this new role (I’ll be having a meeting with her about the RC role this week — she initiated). My compensation was not changed as well. I am really confused and I just want to do work. I really love my job, but it’s extremely frustrating to be expected to only have eight hours in a day. Again, I don’t ever plan on putting in the extra hours. I’m thinking you might not realize that your company is required by law to pay you overtime (time and a half) for all hours over 40 that you work in a week!* You can’t waive that right; there’s no amount of “but I’m volunteering to do it” that gets them out of the legal requirement to pay you for that time. And you not recording the time on your timesheet can get them in trouble down the road; you’d legally be allowed to claim back pay and penalties from them later on if you change your mind. That in itself is a reason for your manager not to let you work extra hours. But there are lots of other reasons too: * People burn out if they work long hours over time, and good managers want to avoid that. * By working all those extra hours, you’re potentially making it harder for your manager to get approval to fill the vacancy your coworker left — because if all the work is getting done, the company has left incentive to spend resources on a new hire. * Good managers often want to limit people’s hours even if you’re willing to work more because they need to know what can reasonably be accomplished in 40 hours, so that when you leave, the person who replaces you doesn’t get stuck with an unrealistic workload or unrealistic expectations. * Your manager probably knows more than you do about the priority level of the work that you’re staying late to tackle, and may know that it doesn’t warrant putting in extra hours. * Your manager may know that the workload should be doable in 40 hours a week and, if that’s not happening, wants the chance to help you figure out how to approach it differently. If you find that you can’t do everything assigned to you in eight hours a day, by all means talk to your manager about that. Find out if she wants to reprioritize or shift work around or even get rid of some projects altogether. Or, who knows, maybe once you lay it all out for her, she’ll authorize overtime. But that needs to go through her; you can’t circumvent her by just deciding on your own to work overtime after she’s told you not to. * At least, assuming that you’re non-exempt — which, based on your description of your role, you almost certainly are.) You may also like:I have nothing to do at my internshipour new-grad employees see less glamorous work as beneath themwhy didn't I get a full-time offer after my internship? { 200 comments }
4 of the toughest work personalities — and how to deal with them by Alison Green on January 12, 2016 Unless you work all on your own in a cave somewhere, you’ve probably had your share of difficult coworkers over the years – from the guy who thinks he knows everything to the person who sees work as an interruption to her day-long socializing. But there are ways to deal with difficult coworkers reasonably effectively, or at least to minimize the amount of aggravation they cause you. Here are four of the most common difficult personalities you might encounter at work, and how to neutralize them. 1. The chatterbox. Some chatterboxes are relentlessly social, and others are simply enamored of their own thoughts and expect everyone else to be too. Whichever type you’re dealing with, they may distract others, make it hard to stick to a meeting agenda, or ever have a conversation that approaches being concise. How to deal with a chatterbox: Be willing to address the behavior forthrightly by saying things like: “We need to get through all the items on the agenda, so let’s move on to the next topic.” “We only have 30 minutes scheduled for this meeting, so I’d like people to hold comments until the end unless they’re crucial.” “That’s a really interesting thought, but for now let’s stick to Topic X.” “I’ve only got a couple of minutes before I’ve got to get on a call, but I wanted to ask you about…” “I’m on deadline right now – can’t talk!” If you manage a chatterbox and notice the person regularly distracting others, you might say something like, “I love that relationships with your coworkers are important to you, but I want to ask that you balance that with people’s need not to get drawn into long conversations that take their focus away from their work.” 2. The Eeyore. Eeyores, like their grumpy donkey namesake, exude negativity. In their world, nothing is a good idea, plans are doomed to failure, and suggestions are just new opportunities for defeat. Unsurprisingly, colleagues of Eeyores usually find them exhausting. How to deal with an Eeyore: Compassion and a sense of humor are your best bet. To the extent that you can, remember how miserable the person must be with this kind of mindset. When compassion runs dry, try to at least see the humor in the predictability of the naysaying. 3. The know-it-all. Know-it-alls have an opinion on everything, and love to share it – including telling you how to do your job better, where you went wrong in that report, why the CEO won’t like your presentation, and reasons that next year’s product launch won’t work. < How to deal with a know-it-all: Your best strategy here is to ignore and shut down. As much as possible, let all the unsolicited opining roll right off of you. Don’t get drawn into a back and forth; instead, rely on bland responses like “Hmmm, it’s a thought” and “I’ll think about that.” 4. The slacker. The slacker always finds ways to do the least amount of work possible, is often seen indulging in marathon YouTube sessions, and has gained a reputation among coworkers for not pulling her weight. How to deal with a slacker: Assuming that you don’t manage the slacker, there’s not a lot you can do here. Your choices are basically to ignore the slacking or to speak to someone in a position of authority over the person. If you do choose to speak up, it’s smart to come prepared with examples of how the situation has impacted your ability to do your job (for example, if you’re dependent on the coworker to supply you data and you’re not receiving it on time). However, if you’re the slacker’s manager, there’s only one option here, and that’s to set clear expectations about the changes you need to see in her work performance and the consequences for not meeting those expectations, and then follow through. This is the least enjoyable part about being a manager, but it’s also one of the most fundamental job duties. If you don’t do it, you’ll bring down everyone else’s morale (and possibly their performance, over time – after all, why should others work hard when the slacker gets away with little work?) and seriously impact your team’s results. Originally published at Intuit Quickbase. You may also like:how much socializing at work is too much?I just started my new job and I miss my old one -- did I make a mistake?how do I deal with a broken heart at a new job? { 171 comments }
I’m in trouble for cc’ing a laid-off coworker on a message questioning her layoff by Alison Green on January 12, 2016 A reader writes: Yesterday my manager sent a message to the members of my team (teapot makers) and another team (teapot designers), whose manager just went on maternity leave, and for whom he is covering. This message announced that a position on the design team, Tipping Tester, was being eliminated, and gave the effective date. The message specifically said that the person in the to-be-eliminated position is being invited to interview for other positions and that he hoped she would be remaining with the company. The current Tipping Tester was included on the email, as was our HR manager. Today I sent a response to my manager, the on-leave manager, the HR manager, and (this is important) the current Tipping Tester, saying that I was worried about this change. Prior to creating this position and hiring the Tipping Tester several months ago, we were routinely producing teapots that didn’t, in fact, pour out when tipped over. Obviously this meant that buyers of our teapots were unhappy that they didn’t perform their intended function well. I said that since hiring the Teapot Tester, this happens far less frequently, which makes my work of making teapots much better because I don’t have to spend as much time as I used to explaining the faulty tipping to customers and fixing it. I said that I was worried that we would return to the former state of too many tip-less teapots, and asked for information about how we could ensure that that wouldn’t happen with this position being eliminated. While I made it clear that I questioned the decision, and any reader would understand that I hoped the decision to eliminate the position would be reversed, my only specific request was for specifics on how they planned to avoid the return of our pre-Teapot Tester problems. The HR manager wrote back quickly, saying that it was completely inappropriate for me to have included the current Teapot Tester. I had a conversation about it with my manager, and apparently people above him are considering taking some kind of punitive action. My manager said that this is only about the recipient list and not the content of my message. I explained my rationale for including her, which was that since I was writing the email, and I wanted the Teapot Tester to know that I appreciated her work and was asking these questions, I was going to either forward the email to her or bcc her anyway. By including her as a cc, I was merely making my decision to share the message with the Teapot Tester transparent. If the announcement had not specifically stated that this was a decision to eliminate a position, and that the incumbent was not only welcome to stay, but that it was hoped that a way could be found for her to do so, I would not have done the same thing. I have no HR responsibility here, but did in a previous job, and reading AAM has certainly further convinced me of the value of transparency and honesty. Obviously many HR situations require confidentiality and care around the audience and timing of sharing information. Did I miss something here? Do you agree that including the affected individual on this message was way out of line? If some material punishment is announced, should I resist? I think that termination is very unlikely, but one never knows, I guess. Yeah, I think you were in the wrong. I understand where you were coming from and I don’t think it was an outrageous thing to do, but it did demonstrate a lack of sensitivity to politics around layoffs. The reason that people above you are pissed off is that by including the tipping tester, you basically said that you think the layoff decision is a bad one and encouraged the tipping tester to think the same. That’s bad for your employer because when people think they’re being wrongly laid off, they’re much more likely to be bitter, do things like sue the company (if they start thinking that there might be discrimination or other illegal behavior involved), and generally spread discord. The messaging around layoffs is usually very carefully managed, both for morale reasons and legal reasons, and you threw a big old “I don’t care about that” right in the middle of a delicate situation. Depending on how well they know you and what the larger context is, it’s possible that it even came across as “I’m trying to start some shit here.” From your perspective, I get that you felt that you were raising important issues and being transparent, but … well, it was tone-deaf to the above. Plus, this is a conversation that would have been better to have in person rather than via email. Layoff decisions are just super sensitive. That said, this shouldn’t get anywhere near firing level. In a reasonable company (and assuming there’s no history that would make this more problematic), you’d get a serious talking-to about why this was inappropriate, and that would be that. But to ensure that that’s the case, I’d tell your manager and others involved — quickly — that you misjudged the appropriateness of including your coworker on your email, that you understand now why it could have ended up being problematic, and that you’ll be more discreet with sensitive issues in the future. 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new employee won’t stop talking about her old job, losing money on a business trip, and more by Alison Green on January 12, 2016 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. New employee won’t stop talking about how she did things differently at her old job I have a new employee who is in orientation. Every time I or one of the other staff members tell her about something, she says, “That’s not how we did it at my last job,” or “we did it XYZ way at this other place.” And she expresses an opinion about everything she is told, no matter what the topic. My staff is starting to get frustrated but so far has been kind and saying things like, “Well, this is the way we do it here.” She is also printing out orientation pages and telling me what needs to be updated when she was already told what the updates were. Is there a kind way to tell her to listen and learn and stop telling us about how she did things other places? Sit down with her one-on-one and say this: “Jane, you’ve mentioned multiple times that you did things differently at previous jobs. Right now, we want to focus on teaching you how we do things here, and it’s becoming a distraction to keep discussing how you’ve done things differently before. Can I ask you to stay focused on what we’re teaching you about how we operate here?” Also, if you’re not this person’s manager, give a heads-up to the person who is, because this has Pain In The Ass written all over it. (And that will be helpful for her manager to know about, since it’s more likely to make her direct about nipping this in the bud when she sees it herself.) 2. I’m going to lose money on this business trip I’m from Asia and am being asked to fly for a business trip to Europe (Germany). There are many issues, but I don’t know how to bring it up without making it seems like I’m a difficult person to deal with: 1) We have to choose the cheapest ticket available. Of what I’ve found online, the cheapest would take 19 hours, while paying about $150 more would shorten the flight to 12 hours. But I’m not allowed to take a shorter flight, just the cheapest flight. 2) I’m only allocated a per-day allowance of 25 euros, which don’t think is reasonable since a meal costs 15 euros in general and I have to eat two meals (lunch and dinner). This 25 euros allowance is inclusive of everything. I have been on business trips in other countries and felt like I had to fork out more money than I’d spend if I were to stay in my home country. And of course I’m not compensated for the lost time I could spend with family and friends. Is there any way I could reject this trip without making it seem like I’m rocking the boat? Thinking about this just makes me really miserable. Whether you can just decline to go really depends on your job, the nature of the trip, and your relationship with your manager. But before you get there, I’d try pushing back on both issues: You can point out that paying just $150 more would shave seven hours off the plane ride and ensure that you show up far more rested and ready to work. You can also put together some samples of what 25 euros will buy in the city you’ll be in; you might be able to show that it’s not sufficient for two meals there, even if it might be realistic for other destinations. (Note: I don’t know if it is or not, but by looking at actual menu prices in the area you’ll be in, you should be able to conclude pretty definitively.) This may or may not change anything. In a reasonable company, it would, but you may not be working for a reasonable company. If that turns out to be the case, you can try framing it as “It seems like I’ll be losing $__ by going on this trip. What can we do to ensure that I don’t lose my own money during business travel?” But if they’re unreasonable and the trip is required, you might be stuck. 3. My coworker keeps trying to speak our native language to me, but I want to speak English I share a room with the rest of my team (seven of us in total); it’s a fairly small and packed open plan office. A guy who joined this week speaks my native language (which is not terribly common). Finding this out delighted him, and now he insists on talking to me in that language in front of everyone (trying to make conversation, not just asking one question or two). This makes me uncomfortable, and I also believe it’s unprofessional and rude to the rest of our team. Am I overreacting? If not, can I shut this down somehow (presumably by telling him)? He told me before going home yesterday that he needs to talk to me in that language even MORE from now on (no clue why). I think he’s trying to establish some type of connection, and while I’m more than happy to share any work-related knowledge I have, I don’t want this to happen in any language that isn’t English. Just be direct with him! The next time he does it, say in English, “I prefer to talk in English at work,” and then go on to answer him in English. If he seems confused or put out by that, you can explain, “I don’t feel comfortable speaking in front of others in a language they can’t understand.” If pressed, you can explain that it feels exclusionary to you and you simply prefer to stick to the language spoken by those around you. (To be clear, I do think it would be fine for you to talk with him in your native language if you preferred to, especially if it were faster or easier to communicate that way, but it’s also legit for you to choose not to, and he should respect that.) 4. Should I check with the candidate before I give a reference for them? My industry is kind of small, and while everyone doesn’t know everyone, it is pretty darn close. The people who work in our industry move from site to site with stints in the HQ. I used to work at Company A (left about eight years ago). A friend from Company A emailed me yesterday to ask if I would give a reference for my old boss at a site rotation at Company B. She told me that she and the hiring team already know that he is technically excellent but that he administratively needs a strong ops team and hates being bothered by HQ (this is pretty standard in our industry for people in his position, unfortunately). They are asking because, as is clear on his CV, he went straight from the site where we worked together to another site and didn’t include references from either of those sites. My friend was on a site rotation for her company in the same small town as us and knew that he and I worked together. I don’t know why he didn’t include a reference from our site, but I would be willing to give a good reference. I know that he left the next site abruptly, but I didn’t work in that department so I don’t know why (I mean, I assume why, but when the C-suite lets a guy run sites a certain way for 20 years and heaps praise, promotions, and bonuses on him, and then all of a sudden decides they don’t like how he does things, that’s not on him and certainly not something I would discuss outside of Company B). I know that a good hiring team does their own due diligence on reviewing a candidate, including using any resource they can access to get feedback. But as the person being asked, do I get permission from the applicant first? Is it a different standard if I am being asked to be a reference for someone who reported to me vs someone I reported to? I ultimately decided to contact Old Boss and let him know I had been asked and that I was willing to give him a good reference or tell Company A that it was my personal policy to only give references if requested by the applicant. He said he would be pleased if I spoke to Company A. I did this because Old Boss knows that I am looking for a new job and offered to be one of my references so I wanted to maintain the good relationship. But this is likely to come up again for other people I know so I want to be prepared. It’s really up to you, but in general there’s no expectation that you’ll get the candidate’s explicit permission before giving a reference. That’s doubly true when you know the person who’s asking you for the reference, as you did here. You still might choose to reach out for permission, but you’re not violating any convention if you don’t. Your friend who contacted you was basically drawing on your friendship and saying “hey, can you give me the low-down on what the deal really is with this guy?” That’s a pretty normal thing to ask when you know someone personally. (Imagine, for instance, that you’re hiring a nanny and notice that you’re friends with one of her previous employers. Would you really not reach out to your friend and ask her about her experiences with the person and expect her to be honest with you? This is basically the same thing.) 5. Letting a contact know I’m not looking for other work right now A manager I’ve worked with in a part-time role in the past sent me a job posting. She said she thought that I would be a perfect fit, and encouraged me to apply. I loved the team, the work, the management, and the mission. A year ago, it would have been a total dream job. The problem is, I am really happy with where I am now. I am happy with my salary, several people in leadership have “clicked” with me and have been informally mentoring me, I enjoy my work, I love my clients, I genuinely like most of my coworkers, and I have a short commute. There is probably not as much room for “on paper” growth as I’d like, but there are lots of different types of personalities to deal with, and I’ve discovered that I actually really love finding ways to work with difficult people when others have thrown in the towel. (I think dealing with difficult people at work could become one of my secret superpowers.) In other words, I’ve still got more to learn in my current role and am not ready to look for other opportunities. What is the best way to say “thank you for thinking of me, I’m not looking for a change right now but would love to keep the door open in the future”? Exactly like that would be fine! That’s a very normal thing to say. In fact, she’s probably expecting that there’s a decent chance you’ll say it, so don’t feel weird about it. If you want, you can reword it a bit to “Thanks so much for thinking of me. In a lot of ways this would be my dream job, but right now I’m too happy with my work and my company to think seriously about leaving. However, I’d love to get in touch with you at whatever point I do start thinking about what’s next.” You may also like:my employee shuts down when I give her feedbackemployee's dad called to see if we had "properly briefed him" on his travelmy employee blows up my phone with memes and videos -- even in the middle of the night -- and refuses to stop { 224 comments }
is it okay to mention “mommy brain” in a job interview? by Alison Green on January 11, 2016 A reader writes: I’m curious whether you think it’s ever okay to mention that you have “mommy brain” as a sort of disclaimer to an interviewer. I ask this because I am a new mom (five months postpartum), and I noticed that since I’ve gotten pregnant and especially since I’ve had my baby, I feel less mentally “sharp.” There are often times when I don’t speak as clearly or as concisely as I used to and I often forget words — sometimes right in the middle of a sentence — and when that happens, I kind of blank out and it’s a bit hard for me to recover, especially in the middle of an interview. I had an interview in November where I feel I was off my game and definitely not the same sharp, charming candidate I was prior to getting pregnant or having a baby. I haven’t heard from the employer yet, which I know can be totally unrelated to my performance in the interview, but I do wonder if my general mental fogginess negatively impacted me for that role. There have been scientific studies which suggest that women’s brain chemistry does in fact become impacted by pregnancy, and the brains of women lose about 8% of their mass while pregnant, with unknown cognitive impacts. So “mommy brain” is likely not some dismissable misogynistic stereotype but a biological reality for many, and I feel I am experiencing that at the worst time for me career-wise! So, do you think its ever okay to mention “mommy brain” to an interviewer? And if so, how? Nooooo, do not do that! It’s possible that you’ll have an interviewer who’s sympathetic, but it’s very, very likely that you’ll instead (a) highlight the mistakes, (b) make your interviewer think that you’re bringing motherhood into a business situation in an inappropriate way, and (c) make them wonder if you’re ready to come back to work. Fairly or unfairly, at a minimum it will make many interviewers uncomfortable and at worst will make them worry that you’re not up to what they need for the job. If you’re in a situation where you feel like you have to say something to explain, for example, forgetting a word, I’d rather have you say “sorry, brain blip!” instead of attributing it to being postpartum. You may also like:managing an employee with "pregnancy brain"I accidentally threw condoms all over my interviewer's deskpregnancy and work: all your questions answered { 293 comments }
8 phrases to remove from your work vocabulary by Alison Green on January 11, 2016 We all have certain fallback phrases that we pull out at work over and over – but some of them can be seriously annoying to coworkers and alarming to managers. Here are eight phrases that you might use at work without thinking much about them, but which are worth removing from your office vocabulary. 1. “Are you busy?” This one is likely to make your conscientious coworkers cringe. Few people want to announce “nope, just browsing some celebrity gossip.” And someone who is busy may still be available for an interruption, depending on the specifics of what you need. They might be perfectly willing to make time for something urgent or important but not want to be interrupted to discuss the upcoming employee potluck. Instead try, “Do you have a few minutes to talk to me about ___?” 2. “Can you please come by my office?” Similar to #1 above, this is frustrating because the person you direct it to has no idea what you want. Is it important enough to prioritize above other pressing priorities, or can they defer until later in the day if they’re busy? Do they need to bring something to take notes with? Are they going to be put on the spot about a project when they would prefer to have a chance to review their notes before meeting? If you’re the boss, should they be bracing for a serious conversation or is it no big deal? Spare people the speculation and explain what you’d like to talk about. 3. “I’ll try.” You might think this is a reasonable response to an assignment or request if you’re not positive you can do what’s being asked or meet a deadline, but it will leave your manager unsure of whether or not you’re actually committing to get it done. Of course, you don’t want to commit to something that you don’t believe you can really do, but in that case, explain what you’re thinking. Rather than leaving it at “I’ll try,” it’s better to say something like, “I think X might get in the way of that deadline, but if it starts looking like that will be the case, I’ll come back to you well in advance to figure out how to prioritize.” 4. “That’s so fattening!” Your coworkers really, really don’t want to hear you pass judgment on what they’re eating. You’re not the diet police, and you should avoid any temptation to comment on the calories in someone else’s meal, the number of snacks they’ve had that day, or the healthiness or unhealthiness of what they eat. 5. “It’s not my fault.” It’s not that you should take blame when you’re not at fault. But a more constructive formulation that doesn’t focus so heavily on who is or isn’t to blame will reflect better on you. For example: “I think what happened was X, and to avoid it, we’d need the marketing department to do Y earlier in the future. I’ll talk to Sarah about getting that on our client checklist.” However, on the the other end of the blame responsibility… 6. “Sorry.” There are indeed times when you should apologize at work, such as if you inadvertently offended someone or created additional work for a colleague. But some people tend to over-apologize, offering up regrets for everything from needing to ask a question to a project flaw that wasn’t anyone’s fault. Over-apologizing can make you seem weak and overly deferential, and you may inadvertently end up taking responsibility for things that weren’t actually your mistakes. 7. “I can’t really keep up with my email.” This is like announcing to your coworkers “you can’t count on me to read and retain even important messages you send to me.” It will raise doubts about your ability to keep on to of your workload and make you seem unreliable. If your manager hears you say it, she’s likely to wonder if you’re letting tasks slip through the cracks or not getting back to clients. 8. “Gentle reminder.” If you’ve ever prefaced a follow-up to a colleague with “just a gentle reminder,” there’s a good chance that it’s making your recipient grind her teeth. The phrase often comes across as, “I worry that you might be offended by a normal business communication, so I feel I like approach you delicately.” You don’t need to tiptoe around or patronize your coworkers; it’s okay to just be direct and say, “I want to remind you about this because of X.” I originally published this at U.S. News & World Report. You may also like:how to tell coworkers "you need to do that yourself"my boss won't speak to us and says "please" is disrespectfulhow to disagree with your boss { 179 comments }
I feel insulted by my raise — and I let my boss know it by Alison Green on January 11, 2016 A reader writes: Last month, I had my first performance review at my first job out of college. Despite overwhelmingly positive feedback (98/100 points) and that fact that the company boasted their “best year to date,” I got a pretty abysmal raise of just 0.5%. But the worst part was the way my manager conveyed it, with an enthusiastic “congratulations!” and saying this is the best raise he’s ever given to someone “at my level.” I responded with “do you think I’m stupid?” I pointed out that this hardly even adjusts my salary for inflation and I said that I deserve to know if my work performance is subpar in any way. Since then, my relationship with my boss has completely deteriorated. During my review, he called me “disrespectful and ungrateful.” Since then, he’s cancelled all of our 1:1 meetings and is very unresponsive to my questions, emails, etc. First of all, let me admit that my response could have been much, much better. I own that and I’ve apologized several times to my boss for this incident. And just to be clear, this is a lousy raise, right? Especially considering that I accepted a below-average starting salary to get my foot in the door at this company? I get the impression that my boss took me for inexperienced and naive, tried to pull one over on me, and is angry that it didn’t work. Is there any other reason I could be getting such a bad raise (besides poor performance that my boss won’t tell me about)? How could I have stood up for myself in a more professional way? Is there any way to salvage my relationship with my boss? I’ve been satisfied with this job other than this incident. Ooof. “Do you think I’m stupid?” is such an adversarial response to a raise — to anything at work, really — that it’s hard for me to imagine someone coming back from that. It’s one thing to be dissatisfied with a raise and advocate for more; that’s fine and reasonable. But what you did was more like tossing a bomb into the relationship. You basically said that you see your manager as an adversary who’s trying to screw you over … and that you think that perspective is a normal enough thing that you were willing to immediately move to the hostile language of adversaries. It’s very hard to work with someone who operates that way, and few managers will choose to. If I were your boss, this conversation would have left me with grave concerns about your judgment and professionalism. I wouldn’t be canceling your 1:1s or ignoring your questions, but I would have had a very serious “whoa, we seem to be on very different pages about how to operate here” conversation with you, and part of that would have been serious reconsideration whether you were the right person to have on my team. To answer your question about whether or not it’s a bad raise: It depends on factors I don’t know, like how what you’re earning compares to the market rate for the work in your area, how long you’ve been in the job (if it’s been less than a year, this could be perfectly reasonable), and how the company normally handles raises. It’s definitely lower than average (the average annual raise is around 3%), but without knowing what factors went into it, there’s no way to say whether you should be outraged, disappointed, pleased, or something else. The fact that your manager said that it’s the best raise he’s ever given to someone at your level is interesting data, although it may just mean that the company gives out really stingy raises — who knows. But for what it’s worth, your employer never owes you a raise. You’re in a business relationship, where you get to (professionally) advocate for what you think is reasonable, and if your employer doesn’t agree to it, you get to decide if it’s a deal-breaker for you or not. (And if you decide that it is, you find another position and then give notice.) I very much doubt that your boss tried to pull one over on you and is now angry that it didn’t work. I mean, I suppose that’s possible, but it’s far more likely that he’s just totally taken aback by your response and is trying to figure out how and whether to move forward, as any manager — good or bad — would be. As for what to do from here … You said that you’ve apologized several times to your boss. What exactly did that sound like? Ideally it needs to be something like, “I’m mortified by my reaction when you told me about my raise. I was surprised because I was hoping for something in the range of $X, but my reaction was completely out of line. I realize I’ve damaged our relationship, but I also hope that my performance and professionalism up until now will carry some weight with you too, and that we can work to repair this. Do you think that’s possible?” If the earlier apologies didn’t sound like that and/or didn’t include that ending bit, that’s what you need to do now. If you can’t stomach the thought of that, then I think that reaction is probably telling you that you and your boss are on such different pages that it may indeed be time to move on. 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