employee clique is causing problems, employer will pay me more if I work as a contractor, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. An employee clique is causing problems

I’m a new manager who’s been internally promoted and taken over a team of 13 people, divided into two main cliques. There’s a group of the tenured employees and a group of the new employees, and they can’t seem to manage to intermingle.

I would love for this to be a non-issue, but unfortunately it’s often brought up in my weekly one-on-ones where the new employees mention they feel as though they’re stepping on the tenured employees’ toes. One even referred to the workplace as “pledging into a sorority.” The more tenured employees have negative attitudes about new processes that are rolled out, which affects the team’s momentum and growth. They question decisions made by leadership without presenting an alternate solution and have a sense of entitlement that’s caused a toxic environment for others. This is starting to be noticed by other employees outside my department and affect our ability to hit goals, and I’m starting to feel more like a therapist than a manager.

I’ve arranged buddy systems, team outings, and switched up seats/lunches but nobody is warming up. Any suggestions on how to squash this and make a cohesive team?

You’re seeing this as a social issue (and trying to solve it from that angle), but it’s not. It’s not about the longer-term employees needing to mingle with the newer employees; it’s about specific behaviors they’re displaying that are impacting your team’s work results — resisting new processes and generally naysaying and creating a negative environment. That’s the piece of this that you need to address, and you can’t do it through social engineering (buddy systems, outings, and switching seats). That’s like trying to solve a sore throat by putting a cast on your knee.

Instead, need to talk with the problem employees individually about the behaviors they’re displaying that are problematic, clearly tell them what you need to see from them instead, and then set and enforce consequences if the problems continue. You should be treating this like any other performance issue that was impacting the work.

2. Employer will pay me more if I work as a contractor

I was recently extended a job offer at $58k. I replied that I was hoping the salary would be more in line with something in the $62-$65k range. The employer responded that the salaries were not negotiable but that if I was willing to waive my benefits, they would have some wiggle room. I asked him to expand upon this, and he said that if I wanted to waive all benefits, including leave, and become a 1099 contractor, they could meet $65k. He said if I only waived health insurance could he offer $60k.

I’m a bit upset because my current employer is wonderful and has a great benefits package. They’ve also been upfront with me every step of the way. This new offer seems shady. What do you make of it?

They can’t just decide to make you a 1099 contractor without restructuring the job; there are legal restrictions on how contractors must be treated. (See more here.)

Moreover, contractors generally charge significantly more than employees, because they’re not receiving benefits and are responsible for paying their own payroll taxes. It’s very, very unlikely that a 12% increase in pay would make up for that; it’s more common for contractors to charge twice what an employee would, so you’d be taking a huge hit in your overall compensation.

3. I don’t want to tell my manager what I’m getting physical therapy for

I have a recently-diagnosed medical problem that requires me to get pelvic floor physical therapy once a week for at least 8 weeks or more. Because of the hours of my physical therapist, I may have to come in late to work each time I have therapy, which I will have to clear with my manager. My manager is both a great manager and an all-around nice guy, but because of this, I’m sure he’ll ask what’s wrong, and I feel strange saying something like “it’s a private medical issue that I’d rather not talk about,” because I feel like that makes it quite obvious what the problem is.

Is it wrong/could it backfire if I lie and say I’m getting physical therapy for some other less embarrassing body part, like my back or my knees? I feel funny about lying, but I’d really rather not talk about something so personal with any of my colleagues! I’m assuming that if I have to get a doctor’s note, it will be vague enough that it won’t “out” me. Could you see this causing issues for me later on if I lie?

You can say it’s physical therapy for a medical condition without going into details, or you can simply say it’s a “weekly medical appointment for the next eight weeks.” If asked what’s going on, you can say, “nothing too serious, just something I need to take care of.” Most people aren’t going to continue to push for details at that point, but if he does, you can say, “I’d rather not talk about the details, but I can definitely get a note from my doctor if you need it.” (I’m not a fan of doctor’s notes, but in this case offering one is a way of emphasizing “this is legit, just not something I want to discuss with you.”)

4. Listing my current internship as a reference when I’m applying with them as well

I am a graduate student and currently working at an internship for a small (less than 20 people) engineering company (company X). I enjoy my work there and the office environment, etc. I graduate with my MS in December and will be looking for full-time jobs starting in the next month or so.

I plan on applying at company X for a job, but also at other companies (Y and Z). I think it would be weird to ask my current boss for a job at company X and then have him get a call from a recruiter from company Y/Z a few days later. Should I check “yes” or “no” for “may we contact” when I list company X as a previous employer for the job applications at companies Y and Z? If no, how should I explain it? I also plan on listing one of my coworkers (I work with him on a daily basis) at company X (who knows I am interested in applying there) as a reference for the other jobs. Should I do this?

Your current company knows that you’re job searching (or at least they hope that you are; you’re in an internship, so it tends to be assumed that you’re working on lining something up for once it ends), so it’s not that weird to have them get reference calls from other employers. I’d still give your manager and the coworker you’re listing a heads-up out of politeness — just say something like, “As you know, I’m applying for a job here and would love to stay on, but I know that may not happen, so I’m also applying with other companies. Would you be comfortable being a reference for me?”

5. Should I send a thank-you after a rejection when I wasn’t interviewed?

I’m a somewhat-recent grad with a good job, but one that’s not really in my field, so I like to keep an eye on job postings. I applied to a job last week that was kind of a long shot, but I really loved the location and company. I received a rejection email today that stated that they would keep my resume for future opportunities. Like I said, it was long shot, but I really appreciated being notified and not left hanging.

My question is if it would be appropriate or annoying to send them a thank-you email? I never even interviewed with them, phone or otherwise, so I don’t want to come off as someone who crosses boundaries/is annoying/etc.

Sure, that’s fine to do. It certainly won’t come across as annoying. If it’s fairly generic (“thanks so much for letting me know; I really appreciate your time”), it’s just going to be neutral; it’ll neither help nor hurt. But if it’s more charming/interesting then that (more like this one), it has the potential to help your future chances.

can I leave a volunteer position with a not-great manager, but stay involved with the organization?

A reader writes:

I’m hoping you could help me with some questions I have about a volunteer position I’ve been doing for about 1.5 years now.

It’s a newsletter/communications position for one of the departments (Department A) of a local nonprofit that I really admire. I developed the newsletter program and it was a great experience, but after my supervisor changed last fall, the position has become kind of frustrating for me. I told my new supervisor last year that I could commit to the end of 2015, and I’ve decided I don’t want to do it past that, at least not for Department A.

My first question is, what’s an appropriate time/way to tell her? It’s a bimonthly newsletter and our June-July issue just came out, so there are two issues left for the year. I don’t want to delay the news in case she wants to look for someone to take over, but I also don’t want to sour the relationship too early, since from past stuff I think she might take it personally.

The past stuff is that while she’s generally a nice person, she doesn’t react that well when it seems like I’m working with someone else, even within the organization itself. (For example, she invited me to a community discussion so I could write a story about it, but when I sat with her manager instead of her–because she was late and I didn’t know anyone else!–she kept coming over to my table while we were talking to tell me to come sit with her group, taking one of our table’s chairs, reaching for my food to carry it over, etc., until I did. I had only known her for two months at that point and felt irritated and uncomfortable.)

The other reason I’m writing, though, is that I do want to stay involved with the organization, maybe even in another communications role, and so her habit of taking stuff personally has me stumped as to how to proceed.

Specifically, a while ago her manager asked if I’d be interested in helping run the organization’s general social media accounts (answer: yes!). I couldn’t at the time because of work stuff, but a few months later I had time and thought it’d be courteous to let my supervisor know that I was planning to get in touch with her manager about it. But when I told her about the possibility–obviously making clear that it’d be in addition to the newsletter–she was really unenthusiastic, immediately changing the topic to how Department A had a Facebook and she wanted to set up a Twitter and they needed my help there, and I could do that for them, couldn’t I?

I felt so wrong-footed that I said, “Yes, sure, I can do that” and ended up not emailing her manager. Side note: I know both those reactions are on me, not her, and that the position might not have been open any more. But it really was bewildering. (Icing on the cake, I later realized the Facebook page isn’t even for Department A but for a local park. The park’s in one of our neighborhoods, yeah, but we serve three neighborhoods, not one.)

I know this has gotten long, but my questions are–with the above context, do you think there’s a non-awkward way for me to try to stay involved in volunteer communications here, or would it just be really bad if I tried to move from Department A to doing general communications/social media stuff for the org? Is my frustration understandable, or am I being a bit of a pissbaby? And, again—is there a good way or a good time to tell her I’m leaving?

Well, first, tell her you’re leaving now. Since you’re certain that you are, it’s considerate to give her as much notice as possible, so that she has a head start on lining up someone else to do the work you’ve been doing. Particularly with volunteer roles, it can take time to find the right person, so you don’t want to spring it on her later on when you already know now. (And this is different from figuring out how much notice to give for a paid job, where your livelihood can depend on your employer’s reaction. In this case, if she pushes you out a bit early, that’s okay.)

Plus, you already gave her a heads-up that you weren’t committing past the end of this year. It shouldn’t be a terrible shock to circle back and tell her that you’ve thought about it and are indeed going to wrap up your role in December.

If she takes the news badly, you can address that at that point. For example: “Jane, I really love volunteering here and want to fulfill my commitment, but your reaction to my announcement is making it harder for us to work together. Can you ___ ?” (Fill in with whatever you need her to do: stop berating you, behave pleasantly, stop crying whenever she speaks to you, etc.)

Also, I’d reach out to that manager who asked you to help with social media a while back. Let that person know that you’re wrapping up the work you’re doing for Jane but would love to stay involved in their communications and social media in other ways. Ask if you can talk with her about options. And then, in that conversation, I’d strongly consider mentioning the issues you’ve had with Jane — because as Jane’s manager, she needs to know that Jane is alienating good volunteers. If nothing else, it sounds like Jane could use some coaching, and her manager may not realize that. Plus, raising it will also allow you to say, “Can you help me figure out how to stay involved without having weirdness with Jane over it?”

And yes, your frustration sounds plenty understandable to me. But before you get too frustrated, assert yourself about moving out of the stuff you no longer want to do and speak up about the work you’d rather do instead. That might solve the whole problem, in which case, no frustration necessary.

an interview with me

Olivia Gamber recently interviewed me for her Occupational Olivia podcast. We talked about how Ask a Manager got started and how the site works today, why so many people shy away from tough conversations, getting along with your boss, how to ask for a raise, and more. You can listen to it here.

open thread – July 31, 2015

It’s the Friday open thread! The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on anything work-related that you want to talk about. If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet*, but this is a chance to talk to other readers.

* If you submitted a question to me recently, please don’t repost it here, as it may be in the to-be-answered queue :)

how can I make my coworkers understand my migraines, job offer was pulled after I resigned my current job, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. How can I make my coworkers understand my migraines?

I get migraines. I have for more than 20 years. I usually get one a month, but occasionally they come in clusters and I’ll have a week or two getting them on and off. I see a neurologist and am on prescription medication, so I am doing what I can to mitigate the problem.

I understand that when I get them and have to go home for the day, this can affect the people I work with. I also understand that when I’m fully dosed on my meds, I get very foggy and this can seriously affect my work.

I tend to hover between an overly-apologetic attitude and one that’s more akin to “Give me a break. This is a medical condition, and I’m dealing the best I can.” I don’t like the idea of apologizing too much, because there are plenty of people I’ve encountered (and reported to) that think of migraines as “bad headaches” (the same way people who feel sad, might say they are “depressed”). But I also don’t want to come off as cavalier, like I don’t care that my illness makes things more difficult for them. It does. This sucks for everyone.

What’s the best stance I can take that will let people know that yes, when I leave in the middle of the day holding my head (and likely holding back tears) it’s not to go home, kick back, and relax, while still letting them know that I want to be a good employee and coworker? How do I phrase this discussion? Also, how can I let them know that although I will try to be especially careful when I’m foggy from my medication, there is a higher probability of mistakes, and to please bear with me?

When people cover for you, it makes sense to thank them — but you don’t need to go overboard. I’d explain the broader situation to people one time (“I get debilitating migraines that I’m working with a doctor to treat, but we don’t have them under control yet and at times they can be excruciating”), and say thanks after they do something specific to cover for you, but beyond that, I think you should assume people will be reasonable and understanding. If you encounter a specific problem with someone (like someone rolling their eyes or making comments about you being out), that would be something to address head-on, but absent that kind of thing, I’d give your coworkers the benefit of the doubt.

With your manager, I’d probably be more detailed, particularly around the medication side effects, since it’s important that she has as full a picture as you’re comfortable giving of what you’re dealing with. But again, I’d handle it as a one-time conversation, framed as “here’s the situation, I’m working to resolve it, until then it’s probably realistic to expect occasional sick days and occasional fogginess, and please let me know if this raises any concerns for you, now or in the future.”

2. Job offer was rescinded — after resigning current job

My husband was offered a job on July 17. Well, today he received an email that said “Please see attachment” from his would-be new employer. He opened the attachment and it was a rescinding letter. No reason why, no call from the company, nothing. He called the woman he had been speaking to and she said that she “isn’t at liberty to say” why they are rescinding the offer letter. Meanwhile, he has already put in his two weeks notice at his current job. He asked them if he could stay and they said it is too late. They already told people he was leaving and whatnot. So now he is out of both jobs.

Is there anything he can do? He was supposed to get a $1,000 sign on bonus. Could he still get that seeing that he did sign on? If so, how would we even go about doing so?

That’s horrible. There are (very rare) situations where an employer needs to rescind a job offer, but if that happens, they owe you a clear explanation, a massive apology, and ideally severance payments — not an appallingly cold “please see attachment” email.

That said, rescinding a job offer is generally legal unless the employer operated with deliberate fraudulent intent. There is a legal concept called “detrimental reliance,” where your husband could argue that he relied on this offer to his detriment … but courts generally haven’t sided with those claims (partly because since employment is usually at-will, he could have been fired on his first day without legal recourse anyway).

In any case, he should spell out to them exactly the situation they put him in and ask for some sort of restitution and see what happens. For example: “I resigned my job on your word that I had a job with you. I’m now unemployed as a result, unable to get my old job back, and facing potentially months without income while I look for a new position. What can you do to make this right?” An employer with even a bit of decency should be willing to pay him severance or some other kind of settlement (which still won’t make him whole but is better than nothing). If that doesn’t work, he should have a lawyer contact them to try to negotiate on his behalf.

3. Required to attend a formal dinner on a work trip

When I accepted my current position, on the day I was hired I was told I would travel no more than three weeks out of the year for work. So far this year, I have been gone 7 with 3 more trips scheduled.

One of the trips is an annual trip that is a week long to the home office. The company pays for airfare and hotel and provides some meals and reimburses for others. We are in meetings all day and on the last night is a big formal dinner. We are only paid for the times that we are in the meetings and not for the formal dinner. That being said, can they force me to stay an entire extra day and make me attend the formal dinner if they are not paying me to do so?

Yes, if you’re exempt. If you’re non-exempt, they can still make you attend, but they need to pay you for the time.

Your bigger issue, though, is that you’re doing four times the amount of travel you signed up for, and if you’re unhappy about that, it could be worth talking to your boss about it.

4. Will updating LinkedIn with my new job hurt my chances with the other employer I want to work for?

I am presently working with company A but will leave them by the end of this month to another company, B.

I’m also in discussion with another company, C, and I have high hope of getting an offer from them. I’m likely to experience higher career growth both locally and internationally in company C than B.

My worry is that the HR rep of company C is very active on LinkedIn, and I don’t know if updating my LinkedIn profile after starting with company B will have any negative effect on my chance of getting offer from company C, knowing full well that LinkedIn will notify the HR rep of company C of such change on my profile.

So you’ve accepted a job with company B but are hoping to back out and work for company C instead? Yeah, that’s not going to reflect well on you, and company C is indeed likely to have a problem with it. Most employers want to hire people who keep their word and who don’t make commitments they don’t plan to keep. (After all, how would you feel if you found out that company C was planning to offer you a job but rescind the offer if they found a better candidate? And no, it’s not exactly the same, but it’s not good behavior on either side.)

If I were at company C and discovered you’d just started a new job with B, I’d need a very good explanation of why you accepted a job while continuing to actively interview elsewhere.

5. I don’t want to share a spreadsheet that I created on my own initiative

I have a situation that I’m not comfortable with. I have been at my job for over one year now, processing requests for an escrow company. When I started, there wasn’t anything in place to enable me to perform my job. I documented every request and made notes and compiled the information into a spreadsheet at home on my own time. The spreadsheet now contains over 2,000 entries and is a valuable tool to me, and I continue to update it on a daily basis.

I have been asked by my boss to put this document on the shared drive to help others when needed. I am the only one doing this particular task, and in the past when others were in this position, no one took the initiative to create anything, nor was it required as part of my job description. Since I created this document on my own time, I do not feel that I have to share this information, as I did it of my own volition to perform at my own job. Can I request compensation for this before I consider relinquishing this? Or what is the best way to handle this?

No. It doesn’t matter that you did it on your own initiative; it’s still work that your performed as part of your job, and your employer reasonably considers it such. (Although if you’re non-exempt, they need to pay you for the time you spent creating it. If you’re exempt, they do not.) If you resist sharing it when requested, it’s going to look really, really bad; there’s basically no way you can pull that off without torpedoing your reputation.

Yes, you put extra work into something and it was your idea. That’s the kind of thing that makes you a good employee, and you can bring it up at evaluation and raise time. But refuse to share it, and it’ll go from an advantage to a strong disadvantage.

my part-time job wants me to work more days — am I being unreasonable in saying no?

A reader writes:

I work two part-time jobs. I have been at Job #1 almost a year, and I work Tuesdays/Thursdays. At Job #2, where I’ve been for a month, I am a floating admin between a few of their centers. I was explicitly told this job was three days a week, and my schedule there so far has been Wednesday/Friday/Saturday.

Recently, my boss at Job #2 asked me if I could work Mondays as well. This is not ideal for me, because then my only day off would be Sunday. So I told her that, unfortunately, I could not work Mondays. She seemed upset and stressed, and said, “But you don’t work Mondays at your other job, right? You’re free on Mondays!” I answered that because I work Saturdays, I’d prefer to not work Mondays as well, since it is important to me to have a weekend. Maybe that was a faux pas, I don’t know.

Since then my boss has asked, multiple times, “You sure you’re planning to stay at Job #1?” in kind of a snide tone, or told me “Let me know if you quit that other job.” She makes these comments when trying to schedule things.

I just got an email from a higher-up manager asking to confirm my schedule and asking specifically about my Monday availability. I told them that I was unavailable Mondays.

Am I being unreasonable in wanting to keep my Mondays free? I like camping, so having two days off is important to me. I know that because I am part-time I can’t expect them to prioritize my days off or anything. But I’m also surprised they want to add a fourth day. I was told (verbally) that the job was three days a week. They didn’t mention weekend work when I was hired so I assumed it would be weekdays.

Another concern is that my role was described to me as very admin/secretarial, but I am being asked now to go “marketing,” which means going to shopping centers and give out flyers for our business, and getting interested people’s contact info to call them to set up informational meetings. My boss showed me how she does this and it is very pushy and demanding. They gave me a Meyers Briggs personality test and because of that test, they believe I could be good at sales/marketing if I wanted to be. This is very stressful because, personality tests aside, I do feel I genuinely struggle with this. I do not like pushing people to buy a service they are clearly uninterested in. But my boss is under a lot of pressure to increase sales since her center is not doing well.

That being said, I am good at other parts of my job! I have made the center more organized since I started there. I wish I could focus on the administrative side of things. Is it reasonable of me to ask her to let me off the hook from marketing?

The company is very intense; it is sales-focused and growing. The center directors frequently work six days a week for 12 hours a day. My not wanting to work Mondays and being uncomfortable with marketing is not in line with the company culture. Am I actually unreasonable in these requests?

Nope.

But that doesn’t mean that they can’t decide that their needs have changed and that they need part of your job to be working Sundays and/or “marketing.” It’s possible that either or both of those things could be the case.

However, it’s perfectly reasonable for you to decide you’re not interested in either of those things and say that clearly and politely.

On the scheduling, I’d say this: “I know you’ve asked me a few times about working on Mondays. It’s really not something that’s possible for me, and I want to make sure that won’t be a problem. Can we stick with the three days a week we agreed to originally?”

If she says no, that at this point they really need the person in your role to add a fourth day, then you can decide at that point whether you’re willing to do it or not, if the job depends on it. But I bet that it doesn’t and that she’s just hoping you’ll agree if she asks enough — and that telling her clearly and firmly that this is not something you’re up for will stop it.

On the expansion of your role to include passing out flyers and calling people to set up informational meetings, I’d address that head-on too. Say something like this: “My understanding when I took the job was that it was heavily administrative and didn’t include marketing work. To be honest, marketing isn’t work that I’d like to do, and I wouldn’t have taken a position that included much of it. Is is possible for me to continue focusing solely on the admin work, like we originally talked about?”

You might hear that no, your role does need to include this stuff. But even that will be helpful, since it will give you more information and at that point you can decide if you want the job under those conditions or not.

For what it’s worth, using your Myers Briggs results to push you into this is silly. It doesn’t really matter if you could be good at the work if you wanted to; the relevant question is whether you want to or not. If you don’t, that’s your prerogative, just as it’s theirs to decide that they do need that.

In any case, start by talking about all of this forthrightly. Often this conversation will lead to them realizing that they’d like you to do something but it’s not a requirement if you clearly state that you’re not interested. Other times, it may not. But this type of conversation is always a reasonable one to have — and it’s much easier when you approach it as “here are my needs and interests; tell me yours, and we can collaboratively figure out whether they line up well enough.”

Read an update to this letter here.

how can employees move up if they don’t want to manage people?

Traditionally, to move up professionally, people eventually need to move into a management role. But what should companies do with top performers who want to grow but who aren’t interested in managing people?

After all, not every good employee wants to manage people – and if there’s one thing that the legions of bad managers out there demonstrate, it’s that not everyone is good at managing people. But companies often don’t provide clear career paths for people who don’t want to manage. At too many companies, if you want to move up, you’re going to need to lead a team, even if that’s not your particular talent.

Not only does this leave people who don’t want to manage frustrated and dissatisfied, but it increases the changes that a company will have reluctant and outright inept managers on staff. Managing people is an entirely different skill set than other types of work; the skills it takes to be a great accountant or programmer are different than the skills needed to build and lead a team. When you force people to manage others in order to grow professionally, you end up with poorly managed teams being led by people who were much better at whatever they were doing that landed them a management role to begin with.

And if you just keep people who don’t want to manage in their original roles without offering them a development track, you’re probably not going to retain them long-term. If they’re just left to stagnate in the same position, they’re eventually likely to seek new challenges somewhere else. But if they’re not going to manage, what might their career path with you look like?

One possible answer: Consider creating a “subject matter expert” track, one that’s explicitly different from a management track. People on the subject matter expert track would be encouraged to develop an increasingly deep or specialized knowledge in their subject area, become a go-to expert on specific issues, mentor others and act as a resource to colleagues, and possibly manage projects rather than people.

People on this track can show leadership without managing. They can share their knowledge, service as a resource to others, contribute input, help to solve problems, and act as an exemplar of your company’s values. Those things will go a long way toward building their value, and will help you retain and benefit from the knowledge and skills of long-time, experienced employees.

When companies don’t provide career paths for people who don’t want to manage, they’re more likely to lose good employees — and plus, when you force people to manage others in order to grow professionally, you end up with poorly managed teams being led by people who were better at doing something else.

I originally published this at Intuit QuickBase’s Fast Track blog .

how to explain to interviewers why I quit my job without another one lined up

A reader writes:

I recently resigned from my position at my previous employer due to its toxic environment and unsupportive senior management. I was constantly being thrown under the bus. The position didn’t align with my career goals anyway, and I could no longer reconcile the fact that I was in a stressful, low-paying job I didn’t even want.

Now that I’m doing interviews, potential employers are asking me why left, and I don’t want to necessarily badmouth my previous employer. I typically say that it didn’t align with my career goals, but interviewers have been following up with questions like “Well, why didn’t you stay in your position until you found another job?”

Should I be honest? How can I answer the question without saying bad things about my previous employer, but give an answer they’ll accept?

Yeah, this is the problem with quitting with nothing else lined up: because it’s relatively unusual to do, it makes employers think there’s a story there, and it worries them. Were you fired? Forced to leave? Did you leave in a huff because you’re a prima donna? Or did you reasonably choose to get out of a situation that any reasonable person would find horrible? They don’t know. They realize that it could be that last one, but they also realize that it could be one of the others and that makes them nervous.

You can try an answer like “I wanted to to take some time and really focus on finding the right fit for my next move,” but even then most interviewers are going to assume there’s more to it. If you tack on “and I wanted to take a bit of time to help with some family issues” or something like that, it’s likely to resonate more with many people, so that’s another option.

But basically, yeah, this is one of the problems with quitting without another job. It’s not totally logical that people react that way (after all, if you’re able to afford potentially lengthy time off in between jobs, why shouldn’t you?) but it’s definitely A Thing that comes up in interviewing if you do it.

food gift etiquette, do interviewers decide whether to hire you in 90 seconds, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. Do interviewers really decide whether to hire you within the first 90 seconds of meeting you?

My friend and I got into a friendly disagreement, and I hope you can speak to this issue. Friend thinks that a hiring manager will decide whether to hire you or not within the first 90 seconds of meeting you. I think that is complete nonsense and if a hiring manager makes decisions like that, I do not want to work for them.

Sure, in 90 seconds you can decide whether you find a person pleasant and approachable (not to mention notice sex, race, age, and their hair), but I would be mortified to find out those were the most important things. After 6 months of remote job search, that’s not at all what my experience has proven to me. I’ve had many interviews with in-depth questions and skills testings. I certainly hope all that played a role in the hiring manager’s decision to extend an offer.

Your friend is wrong. I’m sure there’s a small handful of hiring managers out there who operate like that, but they’re in a tiny minority. Most interviewers are, you know, interviewing and making their decisions based on the entirety of your interview, background, experience, and references.

It sounds like your friend has a sort of fatalism about interviewing, which some people find comforting (since it allows them to think that it’s basically out of their hands), but it’s really not how it works.

2. Should we return the leftovers from a food gift?

We had a patient bring lunch to our dental office staff. Should the leftovers be returned to the patient or kept by the office? I think it would be rude to return the leftovers. What do you think?

Keep them. They were given to you as a kindness, not on the condition or with the expectation that you’d return anything remaining. And yes, you risk making the patient feel bad, especially if there’s a lot left.

Thank her, eat what you want, and put the rest in the kitchen for anyone who wants more later (or let someone take them home if there’s no office kitchen).

3. My boss lowered my pay after I gave notice

Can my boss change my title and lower my pay because I’m giving three weeks notice?

Your employer can’t change your pay retroactively, but can change it going forward. That means that they can say “from tomorrow onward, your new pay is X,” but they can’t say, “We’re going to lower your pay for last week.”

You can in turn decline to work at the new rate, so you could say to your boss, “I’m not able to work for that rate or that title. Given that, should today be my last day or would you like me to work out the notice period at my normal rate and with no change in title?”

Also, your boss is an ass.

4. My boss told me to take the week off and come in at the end for a meeting

Is my boss legally allowed to tell me to take the week off and come in at the end of the week for a meeting? No mention of why he is telling me to not come in or if I’ll be paid or not. I have made no request for vacation time either.

Yes. However, if you’re exempt, you need to be paid for that time. (Exempt employees must be paid their full salary for weeks in which they do any work, and that meeting at the end of the week counts as work.) If you’re non-exempt, you don’t.

I’m not sure what the context is here, but this is the kind of thing that sometimes happens when someone has committed some sort of serious offense where firing is a possible consequence, and the employer is trying to decide how to deal with it.

5. Required to turn over raffle prize

If an employee won a raffle at a trade show on a business trip, can a company legally force that employee to give the prize they won to the company?

I can’t think of any law that would violate, although it’s an awfully short-sighted, stingy policy that’s going to alienate employees. That’s not really the way to build morale or encourage employees to go above and beyond the bare minimum.

my manager told me I can’t list this job on my resume

A reader writes:

I recently resigned from my first job, which was a seasonal sales position. Upon quitting, my manager told me I cannot put this work experience down on my resume, nor can she be my reference since I did not work for 3 months (seasonal positions are for 2 months). I was also forbidden from asking my coworkers for references as well. The real reason I quit was because she was would verbally abuse me even when I was excelling in my role (I told her it was because I had to start school so I couldn’t continue working, which was half true at the time). It was pretty clear she hates me but she still acted “friendly” during my time there so others wouldn’t suspect anything.

I understand I don’t have to list every job on my resume, but what concerns me is the job application employers gives out during interview sessions (where they have the part about write down X years of work history or every job you ever had). To my understanding, you have to write down all your past jobs on the form or else if the company finds out you can get terminated. But I worry that if I leave out this job on my resume and write on the application form, then the hiring manager would still contact my previous manager (and she will most likely say something to sabotage my chance). If I don’t write this job on the application form, can the company still find out about this? I’m planning on applying to an airline company as a flight attendant (and they check background, security clearance..etc).

This woman has zero control over what you put down on your resume. Zero. She doesn’t get to see or approve your resume. You can absolutely list this position if you want to, as long as you list it accurately (dates, title, accomplishments, etc.), and it would be reasonable to do that.

The only way she could possibly intervene in this is if an employer called her for a reference or to verify your employment, and she refused to verify that you worked there. It’s possible that she could do that — no federal law requires employers to provide references or verify employment. However, she couldn’t actually lie and say you never worked there (because she’s not allowed to give factually false information); she could only say that she won’t provide verification.

I’d make sure to save pay stubs and/or your W2s since you can use those to confirm your employment there. Then, if questioned, you can explain to prospective future employers that it’s this company’s policy not to provide employment verifications for anyone who worked less than three months (and that your position was a seasonal, two-month job), but that you can offer this other documentation.

If you think she will give out actually false information about you in an attempt to sabotage your chances, you should contact the company’s HR department if it has one. Explain that you believe your boss is likely to give an inaccurate reference for you and that you are concerned she’ll stand in the way of you obtaining employment. HR people will be familiar with the potential for legal problems and will probably speak to your old boss and put a stop to it. (If it’s a small company and there’s no HR department, consider having a lawyer write a letter to them addressing the situation on your behalf.)

Also, your old boss has no way of prohibiting you from asking coworkers for references. She can prohibit her current employees from giving you those references, but she can’t stop you from asking — you don’t work for her anymore and she has no control over what you do! She also can’t stop former employees from giving you references either (assuming they don’t sign an agreement promising not to, and that kind of agreement would be highly unusual in sales, so I doubt you have to worry about it).

Congratulations on getting out, and may your second job be for someone more reasonable than this person.